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Cuck Corner with Craig Mc Kinney (Splash Mocha recording)

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Mr. Mocha interviews The Creator of "Cuck Corner" Craig McKinney live from Splash Mocha. Enjoy the chat and interaction from the live audience. Mike from Keys and Anklets joins the show to help us wrap. Just set back and enjoy the random chats .

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Old Faces. I'm your host Mr. Mocha. Joining me is my Co host for the evening, Mister East Coast Craig McKinney. So. What's? Up. So we are splash, Mocha coming back again. We've actually been having a lot of, well, everybody's been having a lot of fun but me because I keep fucking falling asleep. But. But we have the cocktail party coming up here in about 30 minutes. Man, it's so much, so much fun stuff to talk about.

We would have started earlier, but I've met a new one of my new best friends here at the here Splash mocha. You know, his his first time here and we were just running our miles so now. Well, you got to say, you got to remember, it's not only their first time here, this is their first remember. This is their first. Everything, yeah. Anything so.

Yeah, yeah, It's actually, I'm, I'm actually excited about them because after being in this for for so many years, you meet couples all the time and you can kind of pick out the couples who are going to be around. You can pick out the couples who are going to be influential. So, like, man, super cool guy, super cool wife. She came in right away and explained why she, why she was nervous about it.

She broke down. What, what, what kind of scares her about it, Which is weird because a lot of people get into the lifestyle and they don't even know why they're afraid. So that, to me is exciting. And then they've been here. They've been social. She's been social. She's been flashing that smile more. First day she came in, she kind of hit it. Now she's, you know, we're on, we're at Saturday and she's not afraid to smile. So yeah, I'm.

I'm excited. I think that I think kind of that's the testament of Splash, Mocha as well, because as we've continually said, Splash is a very welcoming place, you know, And every person that you talk to here, you meet people, you may not need them, but you cross somebody that's walking through the hallway and everybody is, hey, hey, hey, how you doing? Good morning. Hello. How you doing? Nice to meet you.

So it's a very welcoming place and I think that has made them feel more comfortable to to maybe not, I mean again because this is their first time, maybe they haven't felt comfortable with playing because they've never done anything whatsoever, but at least it's made them more comfortable to be here, at least you know. Yeah, yeah. And I'm I'm. It's exciting to meet new friends and excited it is. I can't explain in words how much the lifestyle has changed my life.

And for us, we know what it's like for us to have this connection for new people and lifestyle. Like for for them, you may not say to yourself, oh, you know, we just met these guys and they say we're going to talk and we're going to hang out. Yeah, whatever. They don't mean it. But for us, we're like, oh, shit, like the first time I met him, we've been connected since, man, that that's it. You know, it's he's been to my

home. He knows that I'm going to be in Atlanta, you know, not to stay in the hotel. You know, if you call me and say I'm staying in the hotel, you better have a fucking business meeting an hour away or it's like, was my home not good enough for you? I mean, I kicked all the pet roaches out before you told me you're coming. What the fuck is going on? You know, so those are type of the friendships and relationships you build. So we are looking forward to

that. But Craig, we have the cocktail party coming up. What are we going to be looking forward to seeing? Well, the cocktail party, I mean we, I've talked about a little bit on the podcast a couple times. I have a, a, a group on Telegram. It's a, it's a pretty exclusive

group, very kind of exclusive. So what happened was, to give you a little bit of history about it, what happened was a couple years ago, probably a little little more than 2 1/2 years ago, coming up on Houston, there were some people that said, hey, I've heard that cups were not welcome at Splash. And I was like, well, that's not true, you know?

So I created this group on Telegram where it was and I invited a couple couples and said, hey, no, you, I want you to understand that you are welcome at Splash. You are welcome. You know you're a part of the lifestyle and we want you to be here. And so it started out with just a few people and it I invited a couple cuckolds, and if originally it was just the cucks, it wasn't the mistresses. Or the really? Yes, that's how it started out. It was just the cucks.

And then there was a couple cucks who they went through their wives and and it was like, OK, so you know what, I'll add the wife. So that way you can see what is going on in the cuckold corner. And it kind of just grew after Houston. I was like, well, you know what, why not let the wives in as well? So it was the cucks. So this room that you're Speaking of was not a it's a, it's a telegram group. So it was a virtual group basically.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it. Was. Again it's on Telegram and it was it was just something that again it just started kind of you know I just want you guys to be comfortable with with being in Houston and it just kind of after the after Houston it was like well why not just keep the group, you know people are comfortable in here. So it became OK so we'll we'll invite more people and it just kind of grew and grew and grew so but it but again it's a very

exclusive group. We don't want people in there. You know, just my thing is, if you're in there posting, you know, there there. Now we do go into where we post pictures and stuff like that. But for the most part, you don't see a lot of pictures in there. But it's a lot of informational stuff about how cages fit, what's the best cage for

somebody and all sorts of stuff. But then there's other stuff that happens where there's just a lot of discussion, you know, where one person in particular, I think, I don't think she would mind me saying her name. Her last name is Woodstock, but she messaged me one day and she was like, hey, I got a question for you. And I was like, this is a good question to ask in the cup group. And she was like, you have a cup group. I was like, yeah, So I asked the question in the cup group.

I added her and my intention was to delete her afterwards and she was like, please do not delete me from this group. I I, we are not in the cuckold dynamic. But I love how things are in this group where we can discuss things. You know, if you have a problem with anything, it's not only cuckold discussions, it's about, you know, a lot of different things. So she's like they're not in the cuckold dynamic, but she's still

in the group, you know? But it it it's great because there's a lot of stuff in there, not only again, cuckold dynamic stuff, but lifestyle dynamic stuff. And I don't mind inviting people, but it's all about, you know, you you need to understand that this is not the your typical telegram or any sort of group where you know it's it's conversational and not just. And there's also there's a certain Now here's the thing I'll tell you honestly I had to

beg to be letting to the group. You know, I noticed that he had this group and I kept hearing about this group. And I mean, here's the thing, like, I heard about this group, you know, after, you know, he'd already fucked my wife and after he'd been to my home and, you know, he, I mean all these, you know, he said we were best friends. All of this stuff, all of this stuff. And then, you know, I I hear from some random citizen, Yeah,

I mean, me too. So I heard from some random, heard from some random citizen about this cuckold corner group and like, oh, wow, that's amazing. Can you please introduce me to the owner of this group? And then I find out that the owner of this group is none other than my friend, pregnant kid. I was hurt. I was devastated. So I called him and you know. You just sent me a. Message. Wait, was it abrasive? I'm not sure, no, it wasn't abrasive, but you sent me a

message. Yeah, I sent him abrasive shit all the time, so I don't. Know about it. I don't know where we were on that day. I don't know. You'll find out soon. So that's like, can I get in the group? He's like, I'll get you the group. So I've been busting shops about it. But the cool thing about the group, the thing I like about it, is all the people in the group can be vulnerable.

And when I say they can be vulnerable, there's certain questions that they can ask that in most groups, people be like, holy shit, did you just say that out loud? It's weird to say this, you know? And because I'm, I'm the first one to knock a lot of the weird shit that goes on in in in the world today. So I'll use the term safe space. There's a space for people who are in the community to ask any question, no matter how uncomfortable that question may be.

Because you know in the Coco groups as men there's certain questions that we're not used to asking. There's certain things that we're not used to saying you know guys for for us because you know we we've kind of for us doing the podcast and stuff like that. We're used to getting those questions. But I was not used to seeing those questions in a group where a bunch of people would hear. So that was a really cool thing.

And then just watching the level of comfort that these these guys had and that the the sensation that there's no judgement. In fact. You get judged for judging, which is nice. I mean, it's nice because you can be direct, you can ask a question, you got all of these people who even if people don't agree with you, they will say why they don't agree, but it's not in a derogatory way. Exactly, Exactly. Exactly.

And that's the thing. That's why, again, going back to the picture thing, it's not, it's not a group where people would just just post pictures and like I call it fishing, where it's like you're fishing, you're sending out. Because most of the time, I mean, let's be honest, if somebody posts a picture, it's about how sexually prowess they're they they are, you know, it's like, OK, I I'm showing this because I want someone to understand my Dick size or

something like that, you know? So like I said, I call it fishing. But the group is not about that. It's about like you said, you know, we come in there and it is a safe space. It doesn't matter what your kink is, whatever it is, you know people come in there and they they say, hey I, I, I have a question about this what do you guys think about this? And it doesn't matter what your kink is, no matter what the fuck, anything, people can

answer honestly. And and if they are not into that, they won't interject it at all in that in that conversation, you know there's just this is what it is and you get, you get honest feedback on everything. And I think one thing that I enjoy is there's there's this thing with me where like if it doesn't affect me, I don't give a shit, you know, if it's not going to hurt me, I don't care.

So it it's not uncomfortable for me to be around the person who I don't relate to. It doesn't make it weird or uncomfortable. And I I love the the cuck, the cuck corner group because don't get me wrong, playing with with cuckold couples and things like that, there is a relation, but there's also a an understanding. There's also things that I personally don't relate to with the cucks being a bull, I don't relate to cucks in a certain way, just like being a dude.

I don't relate to my wife in a certain way, you know, that doesn't mean that I don't want to be around her. That means that I don't relate. So in this group, the one thing that I've enjoyed is there's a lot of things that I'm able to to see and experience through them and understand them better. That gives me a gives me a peek into their world.

Just like with our podcast, when the guys are podcasting, we don't filter for a reason, you know, And a lot of people think that, oh, Mr. Mocha can be a Dick sometimes. Mr. Mocha talks the way he talks with his buddies when no one is listening. That's how I talk on him on the podcast, because if you want to really see how guys talk, I'll show you. That makes. That makes for good podcast. Yeah, though, I mean honesty, you know, you want honesty about stuff, you know?

And and that's to me the best thing about the Cup group is, is that it's just honesty. You know, people can come in there and they say again, I mean not to harp on this, but it's just there's no judgement about stuff. If you want to be pegged by a woman, hey you, you're going to be pegged by a woman and and and they'll discuss. It like you, they'll they'll talk about, they'll discuss it.

They'll they have like really in depth conversation about lots of things that my brain doesn't even take me there like huh. But and it's not that that's not even negative way. It's like I never even thought about that.

So that's. The weird thing about the the cut group too, though, is I don't know if you've noticed it, Mr. Mocha is that you can sit in there and then throughout the next couple days there may not be any interaction at all through people, but then you'll look up and there's like 100. Yeah, someone says something. All of a sudden it's like holy. It's like a huge discussion of stuff about this topic. It's like, whoa, what happened in here?

Let me, let me, let me scroll back and see what happened. Who said what to who? You know what topic was dropped because that and that's the cool day. And it's another thing where anyone can drop a topic. Anybody. Anyone can drop it and once they pick it up and start rolling with it, it's yes, it it's a snowball, which is great and to me is very educational when I when I have time because then I was like fuck, I'm so lost. So I got to go back, like I go back 50 threads.

So like I'm sitting there reading this shit like oh oh that's what you know. But it it gives you good insight into that world and I think it also helps. It helps you reduce your level of judge mentalness by experiencing things through multiple people's eyes and multiple people's, you know, vantage points. So. I have AI, have AI. You know, a lot of people, you know, I've, I've, I've expressed how I, you know, my journey from from nothing through the

lifestyle and everything. And that's one thing. Kind of one of the first things that I've experienced was, you know, BDSM type stuff, you know, So I kind of learned that you don't yuck somebody else's young. You know that that's one of the things you don't yuck somebody else's young. But we, I, I went through that and yeah, come on, come on, come on, come on.

So that's why if if in the cup group it's like if you don't like something you know it it the conversation will change you know and and if if you're into this you have an interjection. If you don't you're you're respectful about what is going on in the group and and you don't say anything you know and and that's why I'm again it's not that I don't want people in the group I I want people in the group.

But it's like it's very selective because I want people who are going to understand that and and and say hey this isn't my kink. This isn't something that I'm interested in, but I'm not going to say anything. Yeah, and the second you wind up in a situation where someone makes you feel uncomfortable for being you, people get quiet. Right. So now you you you lose a lot. And, you know, I think that that's a universal thing.

You know, if you if you want to learn something about a group of people, shut the fuck up instead of going in and go, what the fuck? Shit, let me not say anything out loud. You just go in there and just listen. And people, people will share people explaining. At some point you lose that judgmentalness, because at some point multiple people are going to explain things and you're going to start understanding where they're coming from, why they're. And it still may not be your thing.

It still may. Listen, I personally, no matter what, there's certain things I'm not going to want to do. But I also am comfortable being in the environment because I have listened to enough people say it's like, oh, I can understand and I'm comfortable with that. So when you're putting together groups, you got to make sure you don't put some asshat in there. That's going to stifle me, right? It make everybody uncomfortable being themselves and it and and it's the knee jerk reaction.

Sometimes it is like there's I know, sometimes I know. Sometimes my face is like, what the fuck? Whoa. And you know. I mean, I mean, honestly, there's stuff that goes on in the corner too. I'm just like, yeah, I'm not into. That, yeah, yeah. And I'm just like, you know what, let me scroll past that. But you know, But again, there's no judgment. It's just just, you know, don't yuck somebody else's Yum. This is what they're interested in.

And they will get good information on what is going on and you know and just scroll past that you know and and and it is it. It it is what it is, you know indeed. Well, the cook. I know we've noticed. I've noticed a couple people started to walk into. Yeah. Yes, it's it's almost 630. So it's time for us to wrap it up as always. Hold on, I noticed I'm not. I can't remember your name, but Tasha? Yes Tasha, they are a new newer couple. Cause have you noticed them as splash before?

I've seen them as splash before. How many splashes? Is it for you? I think I may have seen her once. You've been here before. How many splashes is this for you? I think it's. Our 10 10th OK, so I've been to Splash about 10 times and they've just now started on a cuckold dynamic, so I thank you for coming and well. Listen, you know, everything is a journey. Everything is a journey, you know? So yeah, but they're definitely, they've been here before.

Yeah, I've seen them before. I've seen them. I've noticed them before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's taking, she's taking, she's taking things for a ride. Hey. Why don't come up here for a second. Come on up here for a second. And and you are so we we were we were discussing the cuckold, you know the the the cut group and everything like. That. Are you OK talking? Yeah. OK. So and and so we we were just discussing the the cuckold group

and everything like that. So what, Let me ask you, what is it that that got you interested into that kind of lifestyle? He actually started it. He kind of again. We put in the lifestyle for years and pretty much tried everything. So of course we want to explore more and kind of started reading on the cocoa dynamic and benefits and pros and cons. So we started trying it out. He kind of likes it more for the edging type aspect of it. The the denial is pretty hot. I've gotten into it.

I didn't think I would, honestly, at first, but it was. It's been fun trying things out. OK. So you said you weren't into it at first. Has is this something that has kind of grown on you or or? Was there a certain aspect that you weren't into? I think it was the stereotype going into it, that it was a weak man or. He looked. Down on him, which is totally not the case. And so learning that and getting past that, I'm like this.

That's not what this is about. I think that that that's something where the cup corner has kind of helped out with a lot of stuff because I mean, even to me, I mean you see me wearing the make cut coat and great again hat and all sorts of stuff. But even now in media and everything nowadays, you hear somebody say, oh, he's a cuck. You know the the word cuck has become prominent in a lot of stuff now. And a cuck is supposed to be a weak man who's a Sissy and this and that.

And being in the cut corner group, you've learned that being a cuck doesn't mean that it it it, it's not a person who's bisexual. It's not a person who is a Sissy or or or weak or anything like that. It's just a person who like I wear my hat, make cuckolding great again and if someone asks me, I tell them it's a person who is a female led relationship where she is more in control of things sexually and in the relationship than what it

normally. Is. And then keep in mind like the term cuckold is the the way within the lifestyle. The way we use the word cuckold is the way people use the word slut. Inside the lifestyle, Inside the lifestyle you can you can enjoy being a slut. Inside the lifestyle you can enjoy being a cuck, you know because understand traditionally you know cuckold is an insult. You know, traditionally being cucked is something that is happening to you, you know?

So yeah, out in the regular world, I mean, this is a term that's been around for hundreds of years. We make it mean something different, you know, But like I've told people before, one of one of the first cucks that I've ever met was actually one of the one of the toughest human beings that I know like military, like like like real hardcore inside of the scene. He was this inside the scene.

But if we walked outside and you did that same thing, you might lose something he feels like arm or leg. So. So it's it's understanding that during play time, you know. So it's that balance of what is. And there is somebody in the group actually who said that. And and I mean, again, it's something that I've learned from being in the cut group again myself is that no, because he is submissive to his wife doesn't mean that he's submissive to

you. You know, he's submissive and he wants to sit here and watch and his and and see his wife do this and that. But that doesn't mean. And there was actually somebody in the group who said one time, if you do this, I will fuck you up. This is not. I'm an ex Marine and I am this and that. And he said I would no, you're not going to talk to me and treat me like this, you know.

Yes, I am submissive to her and and again a lot of people the perception is if you're a cub you're just completely submissive and and this is how it is and. There's not. How it is there's? Levels to it. There's levels to. It like Biggie said, you know there's levels to it so and and and again it's something that I learned from from having the group where it's like there are levels this person doesn't like this and and what you should do is you should talk to that

couple before you get into that. Before you start telling me he's a Sissy and he's this and he's that, you should talk to them and say what is your dynamic what are. I understand you're a covenant what are you into or what are you not into? Can I talk to him this way?

Can you do this and that you know so is is that something that that I mean I I see him back there nodding his head and everything you know so is this something that and you said you were in the lifestyle of what 15 years or is that something that is that something that could have deterred you from going into this lifestyle because the the perception of of how a cock

is or I think. So the again is the typical stereotype which I believed you know not really knowing myself but after it's really made him more I guess like focused and like aware when we're in that kind of dynamic. He's very much an alpha male leads his company. I mean he he's control of everything all the time. This is his way of letting go, not having to be in control all the time. It's like his release, a little bit downtime and it it's been really good for us we've we've

really learned. How long, how long have you has it the transition been into? How long have you been kind of doing the the cuckold dynamic? Because I like I said, I've seen you several times here, but I didn't know that that was a dynamic. How, when did you start doing the cuckolding dynamic? About a year ago, about.

A year ago. We've we've done, we've kind of narrowed it down to hot wiping about four years ago really enjoyed that kind of aspect and then about a year is when we started exploring the cuckold, the the caging and how that kind of works. No. Is he is he someone who is caged all the time or is it something? Because again to me this is again I I wear the hat and make coating great again. But there's a lot of shit in there that that you don't know, you know?

So is he someone who, is he caged? I mean, you're starting out on this journey, so he's somebody that's not caged 24 hours a day. Is he caged only while you are playing or or what is the cage situation with that? Well now it's definitely caged, the whole event of Splash. Anytime we do a splash, he's caged until the end. There'll there'll be times at home, maybe a week, we'll go maybe a week or so and see how that goes. Definitely during playtime. It really helps his mindset, I

guess. Kind of. Helped create the scene. Yeah, it does. It really does. And he's he's honestly like very attentive, Not even just in the bedroom, but during that week that he's caged, he's attentive to me. He's horny 24 hours a day. I mean, he's very, very just hypersensitive I think the whole time. So it it's not even just in the bedroom and it's the whole time he's caged it's it's really interesting to see him change.

And you know that it's funny because there was one couple that was in the group that said something similar to that where where after he got caged, he was more attentive about everything that happened in the house. He's like, do you want me to clean up? Do you want me to do this or do you want me to do this? So I mean that that's a testament to that in itself, you know, I mean.

And your level of commitment, I I think it's really it's it's always been interesting to me like when I would watch, you know a cuck who takes his role seriously and when I, my introduction to it were with men who were there. They were powerful men in the real world. Yes. And like, it's really weird that the transition that like as this thing becomes more popular. So when I like, for me like I always felt like that was the most authentic because these guys were very powerful in the

real world. They they were making decisions for people all day, every day. And because of the type of person they were, they took the role serious. And so they would really get into that role. And when you had a wife who was willing to get into that role with them, it really brought the best out of their situation as opposed to the ones where the wife would just kind of be like, OK, I'm going to play along with this so I can get some cock.

It really it it changes it. It it's not the same, you know. So it's cool to see that you are that you guys are both getting into that role. And that makes that means that in the beginning, like starting here, like you have so much more potential. There's so much more stuff and like no one's experience is the same it's it's it's like the whole theory of chaos every it looks the same from over here. But like when you get in closer, like everyone's path is

different. So your path is here, their path is there, their path is there. It all looks the same from way back here. But when you get in close and start looking at those details, everybody's experience is so different. And him being willing to say this is where I'm going and he's going to put that same energy into it that he's put into being a successful businessman, It's

going to be a lot of fun stuff. That's why I mean like a lot of people, if you've listened to some of the things that I've done, I've learned that my journey started out in BDSM and it was like the the 1st girl who I ever like, like was AI wasn't a top at the time, but the first girl who I've ever had that experience with, she was like, I spit in her mouth and I did all sorts of crazy shit and she was like, I am the boss of

everything. She's like at home, I'm a single mom, I do this, I am the boss at work and when I want to get fucked I want to be completely dominated. And I think that that translates also to to some of the people who are cucks as well. You know, it's like they want that. And I'm not. I'm not speaking in your situation and you know, and I don't know your situation, but but I know there's a lot of

cucks who are the same way. It's like I want to be submissive in a way because you know that that that is how they feel about it. They there's. But in the reality of it, there's a lot of people who are cucks, who are some of the strongest people that I know. You know, I don't know if I could go through some of the stuff that a cup goes through and that that that that happens in their relationship, you know, so. And that's why I kind of hate that that perception.

You know, you see it going more mainstream. You know, where people talk about cups, but it's always in a weak way. You know, they always talk about how if you're a cunt, you're a pussy. You, you know, you're this and you're, you're weak. And that's not the case because, I mean, I don't know if anybody in here, if you know, met Herbie. I've seen Herbie go through some shit. But it's all about pleasing his wife. That's all he wants to do. He will do anything to make his

wife happy. I could never do some of the stuff Herbie does. Never. Never. But but that's all he does. He does whatever he wants, whatever his wife, whatever his queen wants he will do to make her happy. So do. You want to jump? In actually he had the peace I got. I. Got. So, so As for those who don't know, Michael C just jumped in.

He just walked in and we got kind of a little bit of an audience now, but Michael C just jumped in and I got, I always got to give a little kudos to this brother right here. Because as I was starting down a lot of my journey for BDSM and different types of stuff, Michael C was one of the first people who I learned some stuff from. So a little, a little little short story was when I I know Mike's between 10 and 15 years. It's been about, yeah.

It was New Year's Eve 2010. 2010 OK, so 14 years now. So we were up in New Jersey at a hotel party and one of his. Well, not one, my slave. You. Know. But Abby, I don't want. I don't want to be throwing out shit. I don't. Want to be talking about BDSM? You know, I'd say in my pocket. His slave, his slave. He was there with his slave and we were at a club.

We went to club and he's like, yo, my man, hold this leash for me. I'm like, he had a slave on the leash and and I was like, what the fuck? So it was it was wow, you know, for me. Now look at you with splash walking. Around with now I understand that whole dynamic and everything like that but this was this was the dude who kind of got me. I mean he never he didn't it's not like he he sat me down and and mentored me about a lot of

stuff. But that is where because because I mean could be completely honest with you. I remember walking into places and seeing I would I'll never forget walking someplace at home in Buffalo NY and seeing somebody with a leash on. Now this wasn't that type of dynamic but I'll never forget my my experience walking and looking at them saying what the fuck is they doing? This is wrong. What the fuck is you doing?

But then after meeting this gentleman here and seeing it and going through that and experiencing it was like he he helped that he get here. Here's your leash you know you you hold on to this and you make sure and and I it. It's just been a a constant progression from that point.

But Michael C is is like one of the first people that I ever met in a lifestyle that was like because I was, I was, I was fucked up. I mean that was actually my whole point of doing it like like publicly like that was thinking that maybe this is somebody's first time meeting a couple like this, so. Yeah, I had never.

Met him, give him an. Opportunity to come and ask questions and see what is that dynamic really like as opposed to what you might read online or you know or something like that. So it was it was cool that you took that away from it because that was really why I was doing it. Like it wasn't to shock and boast and anything like that. It was like, hey, these, maybe these people have never seen a master slave couple, you know what I'm saying? So I. Had never seen this environment.

Maybe they will have, you know, the confidence or the inquisitiveness to say, hey, what, what is that? What is this dynamic about? And kind of, you know, like I do with the podcast, separate fact from fiction. You know, like what was funny Is I taking her to parties. And I've had people literally try to pull her in the bathroom and like, rescue her, you know, Like, you don't, you don't have to do this. You can come home with us. Like I just like. Come over the head and.

Drag it to the party like like, but that's how limited people's knowledge is of that like they see it and automatically think like, much like cucks. Like they see a submissive woman and they think, oh weak. And it's like, no, it's not weak. Just like with cucks, people see cucks and think, oh, weak. And it's like you're missing the

point. And and that, and that's the thing I kind of touched on a little bit earlier is that, you know, people, that's how I'm glad that it's more a little bit mainstream because it gets not only not only the cuckold dynamic but the lifestyle dynamic into more mainstream type stuff. But but the perception is right now, because if you're a cuck, you're weak. You know, weak beta, it's become like a slang term. It's become a slur to hurl at somebody to try to insult them.

Exactly that that's the perfect point. You know it is something that that's hurled at somebody who who is like if you're a cub, you're weak you're base you're you're beta, you're you're and exactly the things that you said. And that's exactly not what it is. So I'm glad that you have journeyed down this this and and welcome to cut Corner and everything like that. Blondie, why don't you come up here for a second? They they want you to.

OK, so Blondie and Jed, you guys have been down the cuckold journey. How? How are you guys with your journey? Good. I think we're getting more. I'm. I'm getting stronger and I'm getting more confident and he's getting better at listening. I'm. Better at? Listening Blondie I love. I love me some Blondie, I love me some Blondie I. Love you. Too. So, but yeah, now we got a, we we got a, we got a room full of people here, and now we're supposed to have our little cocktail party.

But so Mr. Mocha, you want to wrap it up a little bit so we can. Oh, Mikey, you can't be Mr. Mocha. Nah. We got a, we got a room full of people as as we started out with Mr. Mocha said. We were about to go into our little cocktail party and now we got a room full of participants and everything like that. So we going to all. Right. We'll wrap it up. This is Old Faces Podcast. As always, we enjoy having Craig Mister East Coast on hanging out with us and we're about to jump

into the cocktail party. And as usual, if you enjoy listening to Old Faces Podcast, you can listen to us wherever you get your podcast that is spelled OFACEZ. And until next time, don't. Forget to 1. No, that's only on Twitter. It's only on Twitter. It's only on Twitter. Yeah, that that was me messing stuff up.

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