In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland delve into various aspects of football strategy, focusing mostly on the defensive side of the ball. They start by discussing the importance of choosing between the best available talent versus scheme fit during the draft, Jim Schwartz's defensive philosophy group-by-group, the roles of defensive linemen, linebackers and cornerbacks. They wrap up by discussing the significance of special teams, even talking a littl...
Jul 02, 2025•28 min
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland delve into the intricacies of football strategy and the Browns. They discuss the struggles of the Browns' offensive line, the importance of identity and the nuances of pass protection. The conversation also covers Kevin Stefanski's run scheme, personnel groupings and the impact of quarterback height on performance. They even get into the effectiveness of the Eagles' 'Tush Push' play and the qualities needed in a q...
Jul 01, 2025•35 min
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland recap the Browns' offseason program, focusing first on quarterback evaluations, defensive line insights and more. They analyze the performances of rookie quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders, the potential of the defensive line with the addition of Mason Graham and the concerns surrounding the receiving corps. The conversation also covers the running back situation and improvements in the offensive line...
Jun 30, 2025•35 min
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss Diontae Johnson's recent appearance on a podcast, where he reflected on his tumultuous past year in the NFL. They explore the implications of his admission of humility, the red flags in his behavior with previous teams, and the opportunities that lie ahead with the Browns. The conversation also touches on the dynamics of the quarterback competition, roster changes, and insights into the upcoming training c...
Jun 26, 2025•33 min
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss players for the Browns who have things to prove in the upcoming season. They talk about the futures of players like Greg Newsome II and Martin Emerson Jr., both of whom are in contract years. The conversation also covers Dawand Jones’ transition to left tackle, a decision on whether or not to extend David Njoku and Diontae Johnson's last chance to make an impact in the NFL. Each player's performance this s...
Jun 25, 2025•31 min
In this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot discuss the Browns' formula for winning this season. They focus on the importance of turnovers, the need for a strong running game and the potential of the defense. They discuss the significance of playing clean football and the impact of young players stepping up on the defensive side of the ball. Takeaways The Browns need to play clean football to win games. Turnovers are crucial; winning the turnover battle increas...
Jun 24, 2025•31 min
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot discuss the Browns' quarterback situation, focusing on the potential for a new starter in 2026, the implications of having a left-handed quarterback and the media attention surrounding Shedeur Sanders. This Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the podcast also addresses preseason strategies under Kevin Stefanski and the dynamics of the interior defensive line, discussing the mix of young players and veterans on the inside. T...
Jun 23, 2025•38 min
Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders has had two speeding stops twice recently and it has made headlines. Are we making too big a deal of this or is this something that could impact the team's quarterback competition? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about why these recent incidents do matter and if there's anything to read into this as far as how far Sanders still needs to go before he's ready to be the face of an NFL franchise. Are they concerned about what's happened rec...
Jun 19, 2025•28 min
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss key questions surrounding the Browns as they approach training camp. The conversation centers on Myles Garrett's leadership and expectations, the challenges faced by Dawand Jones in establishing himself at left tackle and the future of Andrew Berry’s draft picks and who, among them, is facing an important season in 2025. Chapters (AI generated) 00:00 Introduction to the Orange and Brown Tal...
Jun 18, 2025•36 min
Browns minicamp offered us a continued look at the Browns offense under head coach Kevin Stefanski and new offensive coordinator Tommy Rees and it's one of the things we're looking back on during Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe took the opportunity to look at some of the non-quarterback takeaways from last week's mandatory minicamp and the offseason program as a whole. What did we learn about the pass-catching group and why is it about more t...
Jun 17, 2025•29 min
The Browns are in the midst of a 4-man quarterback battle, but even after they pick the winner, could they still have all four quarterbacks on the 53-man roster? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss that possibility on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about why it could happen and how it would look to keep all four on the roster. Then they answer questions from Football Insider subscribers starting with the stability that head coach Kevin Stefanski ...
Jun 16, 2025•37 min
The Browns wrapped up three days of mandatory minicamp on Thursday and, as has been the case all spring, the four quarterbacks were the center of attention. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reset the quarterback competition on Thursday after watching the final practice. Is Kenny Pickett the frontrunner to start? What about Joe Flacco and his chance to win the job? Where does Dillon Gabriel fit in all of this? What was up with the team's approach with Shedeur Sanders? Does the 2026 dr...
Jun 12, 2025•28 min
The Browns are giving wide receiver Diontae Johnson a chance to revive his career after a 2024 season that saw the former Pro Bowler bounce around, unable to stick with a team. Johnson spoke for the first time since signing with the Browns on Wednesday and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to it on Wednesday's minicamp recap podcast. They also talked about Shedeur Sanders getting some second-team reps ahead of Dillon Gabriel, something we haven't seen yet to this point, and ho...
Jun 12, 2025•35 min
The Browns held their first practice of mandatory minicamp on Tuesday, the first of three days in a row before they take their break leading into training camp. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about what they saw and heard during practice and at the press conferences after when they heard from Myles Garrett, Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel. They discuss what Garrett had to say about embracing a bigger leadership role and whether his lack of attendance at OTAs contradicts i...
Jun 10, 2025•32 min
Browns fans will have to watch Nick Chubb wear a different uniform this season as he is visiting and expected to sign with the Texans. Our Football Insider subscribers had plenty of questions about Chubb and his departure on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk Chubb and if this could end up being a win-win for him and for the Browns. They also talk about how different training camp will be this year for the Browns and why it mat...
Jun 09, 2025•44 min
Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz believes Myles Garrett will have his best season ever -- and needs to after his massive contract extension over offseason. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start with expectations for Garrett on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast and what a best ever season looks like for a former Defensive Player of the Year. They talk about Dawand Jones and the importance of this season for him and why it matters that he has focused on being in shape ...
Jun 05, 2025•41 min
The Browns quarterback competition continued on Wednesday during the second open OTA practice of the team’s offseason program. It featured both rookie quarterbacks, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders, getting 11-on-11, the first time we saw Sanders take team reps during an open practice. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe cover all things rookie quarterback battle on their practice recap podcast. They discuss why they believe Gabriel still has the upper hand, even if his performance is...
Jun 05, 2025•31 min
On Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot start off by discussing the Browns' quarterback situation, focusing on Shedeur Sanders, Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett. They analyze the fit of these quarterbacks within the team's offensive scheme, the importance of receiver dynamics, and the potential vulnerabilities in the roster due to injuries. The conversation also touches on the implications of past draft decisions, particularly regarding ...
Jun 03, 2025•40 min
Yes, Shedeur Sanders is getting 11-on-11 team reps, even though we didn’t get to see any of them last week during the lone practice open to the media. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Monday’s pod from the Browns 25th annual charity golf tournament by discussing head coach Kevin Stefanski’s acknowledgement that Sanders is getting team work along with the other quarterbacks. They also discuss the state of the quarterback battle and where things stand with two weeks of the offsea...
Jun 02, 2025•30 min
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Wednesday's OTA practice. They focus on the quarterback competition, particularly Shedeur Sanders' performance and emphasize the importance of context in evaluating practice stats. They also get into the significance of attendance during OTAs. Then they celebrates Mary Kay winning the Bill Nunn Jr. Award. Takeaways: *Shedeur Sanders' impressive stats need context. *Seven-on-seven drills do ...
May 29, 2025•44 min
Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski is stressing this offseason that the order his quarterbacks go during practice doesn't matter as much as we think it does. On Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe respectfully disagreed. They started their recap of the first OTA practice open to the media by assessing what they saw from the four-man quarterback battle, who went in which order and how they all looked after seeing the group together for the first ...
May 29, 2025•30 min
The Browns are about to embark on a four-man quarterback battle and one of the four will end up as the odd man out when all is said and done. Whether that means a trade, a spot on the practice squad or just a release will depend on who it is, but it’s one of the questions on the minds of one of our Football Insider subscribers. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address it on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Tuesday on the first day of OTAs. They discuss the quarterback...
May 27, 2025•44 min
The Browns will hold OTAs beginning next week and it has us thinking about some things. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the 10 things Mary Kay Cabot is thinking in a post she put up on Wednesday. In Part 2 of our podcast, they start by talking about what the young quarterbacks on the roster can learn from the old dogs they’re competing with. They also talk about the young defensive tackles and what the Browns hope to accomplish inside on the defensive line before they turn t...
May 23, 2025•33 min
The Browns will hold OTAs beginning next week and it has us thinking about some things.Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the 10 things Mary Kay Cabot is thinking in a post she put up on Wednesday. In Part 1 of a two-part podcast, they start by talking about the early schedule and how it might impact the quarterback battle before they turn their attention to the back portion of the schedule and how the Browns face a difficult finish to the 2025 season. They also talk about the ...
May 22, 2025•46 min
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the Browns' quarterback competition and how the Browns will conduct a 4-way battle for the starting job. They talk about the operation of the competition between Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders and how it will work over the remainder of the offseason program and the importance of having clarity before training camp.There's also the matter of off-the-field work....
May 20, 2025•38 min
The Browns had a disappointing season in 2024. Should fans have expectations this year for a similar season? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answered that question on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. In this episode, they discuss: 2025 Season Expectations (1:18): Will the Browns contend for the No. 1 overall pick? QB Competition (5:30): Early quarterback competition thoughts with Kenny Pickett, Dillon Gabriel, Joe Flacco, and Shedeur Sanders. Impact of Schedule (9:00):...
May 19, 2025•41 min
The Browns held their rookie minicamp last weekend and we’re taking one more look back at what we saw with our film guy, Lance Reisland, on a weekend edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Dan Labbe and Lance talk about what they saw from the Browns’ draft class during the two days they were out at practice. They start with quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders and how they thought each fared. Then they move through the rest of the draft class and discuss how Mason Graham looked...
May 16, 2025•38 min
The Browns 2025 schedule is out, meaning we know the when after already knowing the who and where. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe reacted to the schedule on Wednesday night shortly after its release. They start by discussing the difficulty of the first month and what the Browns face before they head to London in Week 5. They also talk about when an ideal time might be to put in a rookie quarterback and try to guess how many quarterbacks will start for the Browns this season. Lastly, they go over w...
May 15, 2025•36 min
The Browns know the who with their schedule and Wednesday night they'll find out the when after the NFL releases its schedule. They already know one game -- Week 5 against the Vikings in London. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk about the schedule release on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Tuesday. They discuss the challenges of playing the Vikings in London before they look at some of this rookie class. Would Dillon Gabriel have been a first-round pick if he wer...
May 13, 2025•41 min
The Browns will be without Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah in 2025 and his football future is in doubt after they placed him on the reserve/PUP list. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin their Monday podcast. They talk about Owusu-Koramoah the player and the person and how the Browns will replace him and if there's hope he could play again. They get into all the things Owusu-Koramoah meant to this defense. Then they take an abbreviated look back at rookie minicamp and talk abo...
May 13, 2025•33 min
