Love Talk Radio. Welcome to Open Minds Radio with your host Alejandro Rojash. Forgive me, but I love that little tune from Kevin McCleod, some free music that he's got out there on his website. Got to check it out. Hello from the Open Mind Studios. That's right. If you notice that the sound is coming across crisp and clear and it just sounds wonderful, that's
because I'm using my new equipment here at the Open Mind Studio. We're actually calling this studio one ten so we can have a catchy, cool name for our studio. It's actually in week one to ten. I'm not going to give you the rest of the address, so you can come harasses, but yep, that is what's going on here. So I'm extremely excited about that. In fact, you know, this microphone sounds so cool. You might hear me talking bunny and stuff, just because I like to take advantage of
the wonderful microphone and it sounds like we're on PBS radio here. Thanks for joining me Open Lines Radio. This is all are anyway a couple things that I want to talk about as we get started. First of all, the UFO Paranormal Radio network. I want to thank them because they are syndicating this show on that station. Just look up UFO Paranormal Radio and you'll see he's got something going on twenty four to seven tons of great radio shows that he
has going on there. In fact, I'm going to be on one of those this weekend at four pm, and that's called I to the Sky with d Andrews. So she wanted an update on what I'm up to and how Open Minds is doing and everything, and we are really just getting stuff started in back. You know, I'm looking at a guy here who's wiring some fiber in our studio. We've got people drilling and doing all kinds of stuff around here, getting everything rolling, and of course this is the first time
I've been able to get everything set up for the radio. So it's all extremely exciting for having heated conversations over how to do what, and it's just a lot of fun to be rolling your sleeves up and doing some great work here in ethology. We've got Marizio Bayada working on our magazine. Another great UFO researcher, Antonio Junaios, who started this week, is going to be
helping out with the magazine and other stuff. And don't worry, I will definitely have those two gentlemen on the show because they've done a lot of great research in this arena. However, today's show is all about Project Camelot Carry Cassidy. You might have heard of Project Camelot. People get excited about their interviews because on their website, Projectcamelot dot org they've been interviewing a lot of whistleblowers. So they have you know, Bob Dean of course up there,
but a lot of other people with some just really incredible claims. So we'll talk about some of those and see what he thinks. And people like maybe you've heard of Sergeant Clifford Stone. I had him on the show, you so you know he was talking about crash UFOs and checking those out. Dan Burrish, there's another guy with some extraordinary claims about working for Majestic twelve and all of that stuff. John Lear, the son of the guy who made
the lyrijets. You've probably seen him talk before. Ali talks about you know, possible fights and secret bases underground between Grays and military personnel. You know, they've had a lot of really interesting people on, So we'll find out you know, what got her into this, what she thinks about some of these interviews that they've done, and why she thinks that. We're also going to talk about an exciting conference that they have coming up called Awake and Aware,
and that's in Burbank in a couple of weekends. That's one of the reasons I wanted to have her on because they're gracious enough to let some of our guys go out there and check it out, and so I wanted to help promote that and see what she has to say about why they decided to start up a conference. This is their first annual Awake and Aware conference.
In fact, we're going to have another conference that I wanted to talk about, the UFO Info Weekend, and the guy set who's running that, I'm going to call him up in a minute so we can tell us more about it. But let's get into the news, because there's been a lot of interesting UFO news. If you go to We're going to have this up on the Open Minds website soon, but right now, if you go to the UFO think Tank website, you'll see all of the news if it comes to
UFO Think Tank or Open Minds on Facebook. You know, you'll be able to see some of this stuff too, but I've got links and this is stuff out I sent out on a daily basis. Very soon we'll have this on our front page of Open Minds dot tv. So we'll keep you up to date on breaking UFO news, including I think I talked about this last
week, but it's continuing to make very big news. And that's Japan's new first lady claiming that she ethirically had gone into a UFO and visited Venus and some other planets around the Solar System with some very kind and and hospitable extraterrestrial So of course this is making news. She says her body, she was asleep, so her body within the bed and it was, you know, an outer body type of experience. And it is kind of neat because in
Japan, you know, not everybody. Some people are kind of thinking she's crazy, but a lot of people are thinking, Wow, this lady's cool, she's hip. You know, she's done some really cool stuff. They're not so much. You can only imagine if Michelle Obama came out and said something like that, good lord, all heck would break loose. So that's making big news all over the place. You probably saw something about that, not as big of news making it some of these other great stories such as
a video another one coming out of Saint Petersburg, Russia. So Russia's you know, got some news leaking out here and there. And recently on the allnewsweb dot com website they posted a video out of Saint Petersburg. This is exciting news for me because now I'm in Arizona, but I was living in
Denver and I was helping mister Jeff Peckman out with this. But this is gentlemen who of course is working on what's called the Extra campaign, and this is a campaign to get Denver voters to vote on Denver actually creating a Commission on Extraterrestrials to look into the whole subject and share their findings with the public.
Well, even though a lot of people have been saying that, oh, he'll never get there and it'll never work, and you know, saying he's not getting the signatures, he got the signatures he needed to get a little less than four thousand. He actually got seven thousand. And they always say you need to pat it because inevitably they're going to find some of these people actually don't live in Denver, or they filled it out wrong or what
have you. So you always want to get more so you can be sure that you've at least got four thousand good solid ones so he can get down on the ballot. So with seven thousand, the chances are very good. You know, you're talking in the upper ninety percents here that this issue is actually going to make the ballot in Denver voters probably in November will be the ballot I'll put it on. Are going to be able to vote to have
an extra terrestrial committee. Pretty exciting stuff. Once that happens and it hits the ballot, I'm sure this whole UFO subject is going to just again go gangbusters and we're going to have a lot of media attention around the whole subject. So that's really exciting, and that's his main goal. Our Denver voter is going to vote for this committee. Who knows, We'll see, but probably not. Of course, the odds are probably against it. Be you
never know. You might have seen the Google logo out there. It was a UFO logo not too long ago, September fifth. You know a lot of people are wondering why the heck did they do that? Why did they have the UFO logo? As they're Google owned by Reptilian aliens. If is a conspiracy. Lots of stuff going on. Actually I hadn't heard that particular one, but I'm surprised I hadn't, because you hear about suppose Reptilian's owning
everything. But actually I thought it was because of Exeter, and because Exeter was a famous UFO sighting back in the sixties by a couple of people, and even Kucinich had talked about it in one of the presidential campaigns when he got kind of pegged for the UFO issue. But it was an Exeter. It was actually the anniversary of a silly Japanese video game that didn't have very
good English. And at the end of that game, it says something like all your bassars are ours, and so they put on their all your os rrs or something like that, and it was in reference to a video game. So luckily some people figured that mystery out. More videos out there in the UK UK as usual, they're UFO crazy. They've got lots of stories
up there. Latest they have a video that's fairly interesting you can check out on there, and also another story about policemen coming forward with UFOs that they had seen. That's what's great about some of these UK stories. Some people are saying, well, the real meat isn't there, But you know, I think that's pretty meaning. When they're talking about university professors, they're talking about police officers, they're talking about people who are working in the control towers
at airports all seeing UFOs out there. And those are the type of people that we don't hear about, that don't come forward a lot of times in the States. So these are the type of people people feel are credible, credible, So I think that's pretty good. You know that they have these stories coming out, and boy, oh boy, do they have a lot of stories. There's probably been there's definitely been over half a dozen UFO stories in the UK. And these are in their regular you know papers. These
aren't in just UFO websites. These are in like, for example, some of these names a Daily Echo as one of them. These are in their normal papers that are out there. So a lot going on in the UK, and I know, and I gotta say welcome to all our cool UAUK visitors that visit the web chat and everything because especially doing the show earlier, we get a lot of people from Europe joining live, which is really cool. So thanks for joining guys. Other news because there's so much and I
know there's some more good ones in here. MSNBC. This is an interesting video that showed up on September seventh. MSNBC The Today's Show did a little thing on UFOs and it really wasn't negative. It's kind of positive, talking about Wow, there's a lot of people seeing UFOs out there, and they really didn't I don't think heavily went one way or the other. They didn't debunket like typically you have people going out there and saying not too cool stuff.
But yeah, they did a good job with this story. I personally was impressed. A lot of people get, you know, talking the media doesn't pay attention, but if you watch, you know, I do a talk about how the media has kind of shifted and the media is changing a bit and taking this all this stuff more serious, and that's certainly welcoming to see. Also China, a lot of UFO stuff going on in China. Essentially, what happened was there was a mass sighting during the eclipse. Interesting
enough and during the eclipse, some people said they saw UFOs. Of course, people are taking photographs and they're videotaping these eclipse. Unfortunately, we weren't able to see it here because we're on the wrong side of the planet, but a lot of people took some videos and pictures of UFOs, including some Universe these students. Now the government has taken the video from the university students. This video is supposed to be forty minutes long, and they are analyzing
that and they say in twelve months. I don't know why it's taking them a year to analyze this video, but they're saying in twelve months they're going to come back and they're going to share what they've found with the video. They're all very excited about it. Of course, lots of people in China are excited about it, but they're not letting the public see the video. However, there are a few really good videos, and just today, at least it's the first time I saw it. Today one of these videos was
released again. This came out on allnewsweb dot com and again if you go to the front page of Ulfos Think Tank, you'll be able to see these links. But it is a really cool video. It's this guy's obviously got some great optics up on the moon. It's a beautiful picture of these this eclipse. And then all of a sudden you see this kind of little dot
moving across the surface of the Moon just very quickly. And the Moon, of course is completely dark during an the cliff, so you see this little light and you can tell it's moving on the surface of the Moon because it goes along the curvature of the Moon. So very interesting video. Check it out. And that's the news right now. I'm trying to get back into the chat because you guys probably chatting away without me talking about cool stuff. And ah, looks like I'm back in. So we got a lot of
chatters today. Wonderful. Well, let's go ahead and give a call to our good buddy Seth. And as I said before, Seth is running this really cool conference called the UFO Info Weekend in Florida Cocoa Beach. And what's great about Cocoa Beach, Well that is in viewing distance of show launches. And in fact he's coordinated this at the same time that there will be a shuttle launch. So if we're lucky, we're going to be able to watch
the shuttle launch during this conference. And he's done it a little bit different too. It's not just you know, uh shuttle launching or a UFO conference. He's also brought in some movie stars. In fact, one of these celebrities is going to be our guest next week on this show. I'm excited about it. Dean Haglin from The X Files. He was one of the lone gunmen, the blonde one. She's going to be on the show. And you know what, I'm trying to dial people here and the number just
isn't working. I'm going to do my low voice again because this microphone picks up those low tones really good, and it just sounds great. I'm darling. Right now, we're gonna get Seth on the line. We're gonna talk about UFO. We can here we go. Good morning, We're good, afternoon, organt evening. They're depending on your time zone. Hello, well I'm in the Pacific time zone, so it's about afternoon, late afternoon for me. Hey, how are you today? Good? It's Alejandro of course
at UFO Think Tank Radio. Thanks for joining us. Set I was just telling the audience about your awesome UFO Info weekend coming up, and with that weekend, I forgot to tell them if they go to your website and register and put in the promo of UFO Think Tank, they're even going to get a discount. Right. Yes, I'm actually just literally actually funny as listening to you and actually adding that on in our system as we speak. So
how's that for timing? Perfect? Cool? Thanks? Well, I guess the first question I want to ask is this is the first UFO Info weekend you're doing, right, correct? Yes, it is the first one about what I'm doing. But I've been doing conventions in another genre for many a year, to say the least. Has it mostly been sci fi? Sci fi, fantasy, comic book, horror, anime, ghost kind of genres as well as paranormal. Yeah, I'm a total sci fi and anime freak.
I'm really big to anime. I've got to get a regular dose of anime on a regular basis. And I don't know if people know that about me, but I love anime. Well, it's it's a great visual medium, and you know, everybody might make fun that it's cartoons, but truthfully, it's actually more mature audience oriented because it's actually a form of art and culture in Japan, right, and it's always more Shakespearean in nature. The
guys don't always win. There's blood, there's good, there's actual there's actual morals to the story, and it's not PSA at the end saying you know, like g I Joe, all right, they're so smart too. They're really intelligent, way more intelligent than US television shows. I mean, they don't play Kate to the to the lowest denominator. They really challenge your whole
thought process and and everything. Absolutely and funny as this Japan is actually one of the is pretty much at the forefront is the best way race when it comes to actually it's bringing the reality of UFOs into their current culture and their lifestyle too. And they actually portray it really seriously in uh in the anime visual art as well. It's amazing they were drawing blood triangles actually before we were even talking on them. Yeah, yeah, very cool. So then
what decided what made you decide to do UFO conference? Well, I've always had an own interest, my own interest in it, and I had my own personal experience at one point in time on the New Year's Eve that I cannot explain Uh, don't worry. There wasn't alcohol involved. I don't drink.
And afterwards, you know, I've been, you know, doing things in the convention industry, and I was actually at a convention, a paranormal convention in northeastern Florida, where I jumped into someone who became a good friend to meet, Peter Robbins, and he told me about some of the other conventions that are out there that also deal with the UFO phenomena and how they currently do it, and you know, how the conventions are running where they
are, and I realized that there's really nothing on the East coast of the United States, even in the East in general, not just the coast, that really catered to the people that really want to know the truth and want to have some fun with it as well. It's always the suiting ties, sitting at the table and you know, sitting on the podium and talking and everyone was there listening and sitting in tentping, but there's no real flavor to
it. There's no you know, it's a fun event in general for everybody. I've been to some of these events and they're amazing, but I want to try something a little bit different that also opens the door to a broader spectrum of people and get the word out to a little bit more of a group. They normally wouldn't put their feet in the water at this type of an event. So I'm sort of not reinventing the wheel. I'm just putting skill, delt and radios on the existing ones. Yeah, that is really
cool. You know one thing I found in Denver, The sci Fi convention is really big, and Mike Cousin told me, you know what, we should get a move on table there and I should do a talk. And I was hesitant, but we went and did that and it was incredible because we were probably one of the most popular tables in the vendor area, and I would say more than fifty percent of the people that came to our table shared a sighting with us. It was amazing. It's incredible. I just
came back myself. The biggest fan oriented sci fi, fantasy, horror, anime, and everything convention this weekend at in Atlanta called Dragon Con. Are you ready for us? Seventy four thousand to tendees over the course of three days or four if you want, holiday day, taking over four hotels that all inter connects. It was amazing. Where was that the people in Atlanta
at an annual event? It is amazing. And the people that actually came over to the table and spoke to me, I was full by their own stories and even photos they brought along with them, funny as it is because most people carry their notebooks with them. I also was shot to learn how many people that are in Mufan stopped by the table to say hi, as well from across the country. It's a national event and everybody actually international.
Everybody comes from all over the place. Wonderful event, and you know, I was set up there and it's like, wow, it's really interesting, and everyone's like so cousy asked about my event and coming out and actually getting the lucky being able to not just see and hear these figures, but be able to even witness one of the last few shuttle watches that are gonna be out there. How cool. I know that's gonna be great. Now,
how many people are you expecting? Well, the fire Marshal is telling me that I could only have I'm gonna pretty much all pretty much maxed out at about twenty five hundred. Cool, but based on current tracking, I got a funny feeling that there might because a leetle bit more than that. Wow,
what we're gonna squeeze them in? But I mean, come on, I'll explain the convention in a three sentence in the web unless you're It's a UFO convention that is literally right outside of Massa, and it is the weekend of a shuttle launch. And if people actually visit our website, which is UFO info weekend dot com, you can actually see the view from our beachside hotel of what a shuttle launch looks like. From where we are, You've got a clear view of Pad thirty nine A is stunning. Yeah. I
am so psyched about that. That's gonna be sweet. I hope it launches. I've never seen a shuttle launch, so I am way excited. Yeah, we're gonna have to fix that, aren't we. Definitely. Hey, I've got a collar on someone I guess who knew you? And uh, let's say the jackal Are you there? How are you doing there? Alando? Good? How are you doing? Oh? Well, you know my voice? My friend? How are you doing? Seth quite fine? How are you doing? I am doing great? Men? Long time and all
talk. I haven't heard from you in a few years. How you doing there? I am doing quite fine. I've been traveling the country and last I folking you knew I was doing that, working in the convention and the sci Fi fantasy and our conventions. Yes, indeedy And as they're you guys are working with Seth, You're in good hands. He is a great gentleman to work with in the industry of comedy con and the Collins good guy here. Who did you have a question for Seth? Or you want to just
want to stay yo? No, I just wanted to actually say hi to the man. I haven't talked to him in a long time, lost contact with him. Seth. Now you on Facebook. As a matter of fact, after I had been shut down for having over seventy five hundred people have personal friends to me, I just last week resurrected my face. So yes,
you can actually find me on Facebook. And everybody, by the way, is encouraged to actually go on and you know, become a friend to me because I always tell people things that are going on, and I also help people and network people together. But if I have one friend looking for something, I'll put it up on my Facebook page or I'll put an email out there so people get to play along well with each other. Like if someone's looking for something and the other one has it, I'll try and make
the connection between the two people. So absolutely, yeah, angel ad me. Yes, well, I'll send it to him, make sure he has it because he's one of my buds on there and on here. He's a cool dude. But yeah, let's talk about more about the conference. When is the conference, more about how they can get there. Who's going to be there? Okay, excellent. First I'll tell you like I said, it's the ufosvention that is right outside of NASA the weekend of a shove a
lunch. It is going to be November twelfth through the fifteen, and it is going to be this year. Next year, we're also going to try and time it around the same time of the year with the new whatever they have as the replacements that they'll get into launch. Notice, we actually like to point that out there there's something on the horizon. We just don't know what it is. They don't let us watch the school launches the news staff. All right. Oh, by the way, I see that he had
I said your real name. I didn't say your last name. I'm sorry, I'm looking. I'm looking at your topic over there. Yeah, let's see the guest looks that we have the short list of the speakers. Who you want the celebrities first? Can you tell me who do you want?
Let's do the short list with Yeah, and celebrities. Celebrities. We have actually all three of the Lone Gunmen from the X Files, and it is a very rare thing that you actually have them all together in the same place at the same time, and funny as it is being Hagling actually does a really great comedy stand up comedy routine, which he will be doing at our
Saturday night dinner, which is going to be entertaining. We also have Billy West, who is actually Fried from the TV show Futurama, who's going to be joining us. I don't know if anybody knows who that is. I know I've seen love Oh. Actually, by the way, funny as it is three degrees of separation instead of sixty degrees of separation like we just had with our friend who was just on the phone. He was actually also one of the He was actually a Tan Kay's voice in Men in Black and the
animated series. Yeah, I read that I didn't realize that. I didn't know that an animated series. Oh yeah, it aired with the CW. The CW channel or network, I guess, is what you would call it. We also have Spike Spencer, who is in one of actually the most
quintessential anime UFO Phenomena related movies out there called Neon Genesis Evangelian. Oh yeah, that very yeah, and they just they now actually rumor has it, so don't quote me on this, but it appears Peter Jackson actually possibly needs might be doing something with that in the live action format and it should be rather interesting. Well, these the visuals are going to be done by Weird Studios, which is owned by him, So I mean the visuals of why
action anime is gonna be phenomenal. We also have Wally Winger that's gonna be joining us, who was one of the primary characters in the Space Chimps and a couple of other movies. And this guy, if you saw his resume of who he and who he's voice and what his voice, he'd be like, I've heard that voice and I've heard it too many times now on Also, we have actually sci Fried Radio. I'm sorry not side fright, Radio. Scide Fried, the band that's also going to be joining us as well.
Uh, they're actually a musical parody group that makes light of all sorts of science fiction as well as science fact. The latest thing that they're most things for is just to make everybody that's listening laugh. How about Bohemian Rhapsody in Cleon? Oh geez, the music video is actually up on the internet and it is the most hilarious thing that you could see. Peter, can I join him? Yeah? I don't know if he speaks cleon. He looks more like a branga. Well, it's not that it's short, he's
just altitudely challenged. You know. That's all Now on the guest speaker side, as ancy folks, by the way, it's gonna be humorous. Well, looking, my tagline for the weekend is you've seen the fictions, You've heard the fantasy, now really learn the facts. So now I'll get into the lineup of actually the people that are actually going to be speaking about the phenomena. Obviously, everybody has heard of Nick Pope, who is pretty much
the real Fox Mulder from the Ministry of Defense. He's the guy who saw it all, knew it all We also have Kathleen Martin, who is betting in Barney Hill's niece, who's going to be joining us, John Carpenter, who actually focuses on the abduction phenomena as well as doing some hypnosis stuff as well as actually just dealing with the therapy and recovery of people who have been
abducted. We also have to make Red firm, I'm sure everybody knows, and he's actually also part of the frame of information gathering that we've all been wanting, both stateside and overseas, and he's now actually equipped well just as well. And obviously we have Peter Robbins that you just mentioned, who is actually a great, great author, a great lecture. He focuses on the ren Glstrom incident in the UK, and obviously everybody knows Richard Dolan can't go
along with him. And of course the foremost person that everybody knows, that everybody recognizes is Sinton Freedman, who will be joining us as well. Awesome, well, cool, great lineup. What weekend it is going to be actually the November twelfth through fifteenth weekend, and again it's the weekend of a shuttle launch. And if anybody actually from your show actually registers for the event.
All I have to do in the Cupon area is going to put in think tank and they will, actually, funny as it is, get ten percent off of their registration fee if they are going to be joining us as a thank you for taking the time and putting me on the interview. Yeah, awesome. Well I'm excited. I K you're bringing me out too, and I'm gonna be joining some workshops and panels, so you know, people
got to come out and hang out with us. Well, why don't you tell me what some of the topics that you have set up for your panels are. I don't know yet. I didn't. I don't, I didn't. We haven't gotten that far. See I cut your run on the spot. There you did. But you know what, anything and everything we talked about before, so I can take it all? All right? It sounds good? Oh can I can I just mention one other thing about our event
also, go for it excellent. If anybody here need some extra sources of funds, whether you're employed or unemployed, I know it's a hard economy out
there. I actually had an affiliate program set up on our website that people can register for and if they put up banners, they put up links, or actually market us all on the internet, they can actually be tracked, and you, as a representative of our event, will actually earn a ten percent sales commission on the registration free of anybody that you drive traffic from their
website to us. If anybody's looking for additional income and they are a fan of the phenomena or have had their own personal experience, please feel free and register for our event. We will do all the details. You will have an amazing time at the event. You can even earn free flight, free food, free hotel. We have some really great ways to get people to our event. And I think I pretty much cover all the bases on that awesome UFO infoweekend dot com. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for getting me
Dean Haglin on the show next week. And you know what, I don't know if he'd have much to say, but Billy West, I mean, I am such a huge fan of Futurama, I think that would very Actually he is a very very big conspiracy theorist. Oh really, he's got some interesting things to say, you know, to talk about. He's got some interesting insights, especially since you know, being in the media culture and being out there, he gets to hear some interesting things and he actually, I'll
see what I could do. Oh right, great, Well, I better get my guest on the phone. But thanks for joining us and we'll be talking more about the weekend as it draws near her and I'm really excited about it. Not a worry. I hope you have a great, wonderful evening. And to all the listeners out there, no matter what times when you're in, have an amazing, amazing weekend that's on the horizon. All right, Thank you, sir. Someone asked, is Carrie Cassidy still a guest
tonight? Yes, she is. In fact, I am going to get my fingers busy right now dialing her in because I am really excited to talk to her, just as you all are probably excited to hear from her. And man, this my voice just sounds so wonderful on this microphone, sounds so deep and professional, and I just love it. All right, the phone is dialing my friends as we wait to speak to the one. Hello Carrie. Yes, Hello, this is Alejandro with Open Minds Radio. Thank
you very much for joining us tonight. Oh well, thank you for calling me. Yeah, I'm really excited. I think a lot of people are really excited about your conference coming up, the Awake and Aware Conference. And I guess let's start from the beginning with you though. What prompted you all to start Project Camelot? Oh okay, that's that's way back in the beginning.
So yeah, Projectcamlot dot org is our website, and Bill Ryan and I got together about it's actually a little over three years ago and decided to put our skill sets together to start Camelot. Both of us were dedicated researchers in this field, that is the field of conspiracies. I guess you might say UFOs, anything that is sort of unusual, like free energy, basically trying to break through the matrix. And so what had happened was I was
a frustrated filmmaker. I was working in Hollywood producing, trying to put together, as an independent producer films to get made that were sci fi based. And I was also writing screenplays on my own and pitching them around Hollywood, and I got the rights to The Wingmaker's Story. A lot of people will be familiar with wingmakers dot com. It's got quite a cult following itself.
And I was pitching that movie to people like development people who work for people like Spielberg and you know, Ridley Scott and so on, and getting turned down, and having reached sort of a glass ceiling, if you will, in Hollywood, I decided to pick up a cancorder just to consumer grade and start attending UFO conferences and see if I could interview these speakers and see if I could make a documentary about the subject, because I happened to know that
it was a very timely important subject and it wasn't really being covered anywhere, and at least in the mainstream, and so that's what I did. I started interviewing people with my camcorder. And one of the people I interviewed was actually my partner now Bill Ryan, my partner in Camelot, and he was
at the time the webmaster for the Sero Project. I don't know if your listeners will be familiar with that, but that was an purported alien exchange program that went on during the nineteen sixties with some astronauts, sort of like Close Encounters, kind of a real life Close Encounters exactly exactly. And so Bill had volunteered to build the website and he's quite He was very good at it and became sort of a spokesperson for that whole circle dot org rollout of press
releases and so on, and they were anonymously based. And then so I basically was going to attend the Laughlin conference. I wrote Bill in email. We were both part of Victor's List, which is a very sort of exclusive list full of people in intel and military ex military and journalists and so on. And got in contact with Bill and I said I was going to be
at the Laughlin conference. Could I view him? And he said yes, So I basically I interviewed him, and during the interview I was very impressed because as the webmaster for Serpo, he was very balanced and not he didn't take offense of any of my direct questions. And I have I'm sort of known now, I'm known for my style, but back then that was just the beginning. But I thought he handled it very well and he was very
balanced and very intelligent in his answers. So we sort of hit it off, and we went to dinner and got to know each other, and then we stayed in touch over email. And then I went to Egypt with Jordan Maxwell and William Henry on the tour for the Solstice, and that was back in two thousand and six, and I took a side trip to England and met with Bill and we went to Tintagil, one of the homes of King Arthur, and we both kind of looked at each other and said, well,
how can we our skill sets together? We both went disclosure, what can we do? And Camelot was born right then and there, I have to say, in one discussion we thought of the name Project Camelot and that was it. We from there didn't even look back. We just uh, we built the website and we went out with my camcorder and we started interviewing.
The first witness we had with mister X, who had come to through Bill, who actually had written to Bill while he was at the SURFO project, uh, saying that he had a secret, you know, story and that he hasn't told anyone his whole life. And he and Bill got to talking and then we arranged to interview him. Gotcha, and you know, then answers the question I was going to ask, how you came up with the name. And it was with the energy of King Author that the whole
thing got started. Huh. So that's right, the Roundtable and the idea that, you know, because we are living in such a hierarchical society where some people have power and others don't, that's one of the biggest models that we really, we really wanted to bring back to life in essence, the Roundtable. And now I saw it. Wasn't there even some conspiracy rumors around your name and that that was a some kind of secret government project or something.
Well, it's interesting, how I mean, I don't know why, you know, maybe it's just a quirky thing. I do know that basically, Project Camelot was I think my idea, and the reason I thought of it was because I had been writing a screenplay called Project Moondust that was based on a military you know, alien recovery program that where they went around and
crashed vehicles and picked up aliens and so on. And I had had written a spec screenplay called Project Moondust, and I knew that the military had named projects like that's what they do. They always put project or a lot of times before a name. At least they used to things like Project Monarch. I mean, there are a lot of a lot of famous, uh top
secret names with the word project in front of it. And obviously when we weren't going to call it Camelot because there were a million websites out there with the name Camelot, right, So to differentiate ourselves and also to bring in that sort of military top secret angle, we put project in front of camelot and that's how it was born. Yeah. Cool. I think it's a great name. And I guess unwittingly there was some government project or secret project
game project Camelot. Yes, as it happened, and they like, accuse is this right? They accused you all of being a continuation of that and some sort of disinformation or something like that. Yeah, they tried, well, it was on rentstock, but someone we don't think. I don't think it was Rent's ideas so much. Someone put him up to it. We don't know who, because they put an ananimous article on the on Rent's Well,
Rent took the article, but I don't think he wrote it. And uh, yeah, they tried to draw parallels or some some strange things. But but I have to say that I don't know if people know us or listened to our stuff, who are listening to this show at the moment, But all I can say is that if anyone did there did real investigation on us, they would know that that was complete, completely false. Yeah, it happened to everyone. I don't know too many people in this field that
haven't been accused of being some sort of government agent. So and it's, as far as I know, most of them are not true. Maybe some of them, but who knows. Hon. So you since then you've started to you do a lot have interviews. You guys have done probably hundreds by now. Huh uh, Yeah, I guess you would say that. I mean, what happens is that we are we are self funded from the beginning. Basically, I had a small inheritance from my mother's passing, and then
we live. We lived on that sort of a created camelot and went on the road to interview people for about two years and then ran out of money. And then Bill's mother died and he had a small inheritance for that and that kept us alife for a little while, and then we started asking for donations and that was about I don't know now, it's probably been about a year and a half ago or more. And since that time we've survived on
really on donations. I mean literally I wait to see if I can pay my rent every month on donations, and it sounds crazy and it is a crazy way to live, I have to say. And that's Project Camelot dot org, so people can go there and check some of these interviews out. Now, you probably have a lot of shocking, you know, revelations that come across in your interviews. But what were some of the beginning one some of the things that started to floor you. Well, that's an interesting question.
One thing I have to say is that we because we were researching this separately before we met, both of us were quite knowledgeable by the time we started Camelot on. Once you kind of get into this field, you go down a rabbit hole and you start discovering everything. And so almost nothing that's come across our desks so much has been so shocking. But what we have done is we've gotten a lot of verification for things we had maybe some clue
about, but we didn't know if they were true. And that's where it becomes very interesting. We were able to, for example, I mean, you could say, well is their life on Mars? Well, you know, we have a whistleblower, Henry Deacon, who has now known come forward named Arthur Neuman or Newman, depending on how you want to pronounce it, and he has been to Mars through what's called a jump gate or jump room and basically encountered you know, there's a government based on Mars. There are
on a Naki there and this is his testimony. So you could say we had the theory, but we didn't realize we're going to actually meet somebody who said he'd been there. And I have to say that we've actually been contacted by other people. I'm thinking of one in particular who wrote to us who had been in the military and actually wrote to us that he had been on
Mars. But sometimes we have people whistleblowers right to us and then something happens, they get heard, maybe they get contacted and stopped, we don't know, but they just disappear. They'll they'll give us some revelations and then they'll then they'll disappear. But certainly, you know, getting in touch with Henry Deacon and meeting someone who had actually been to Mars and was willing to go on the record saying we had that was probably the biggest revelation that we've had
now. And was this kind of the stargate type of concept that some of the stuff that like was talked about in the Montalk project type books. Well, it's a teleporting our you know, uh, time travel sort of a device, if you will. And our new our new whistle blower Pete Peterson talks about it in terms of what they call the I believe it's called the Tartists. It's like a phone move that doctor was in the Doctor Who movies, And I mean it's that sort of thing. And and actually, you
know, I mean evolved races from what we understand. And this is something that Henry Beacon also told us early on, which was because he'd known that Bill was part of the SURFO project as a webmaster. He said, well, the way they were trying to say that people the exchange program would have happened using you know, a spaceship of some kind, it was just not accurate in his in his opinion, based on his background, he said again that they would have used more of a of a jump gate technology to get
the you know, to do the exchange program. So my understanding is also that they use a lot of the craft locally, like once they're on a planet, they'll use craft and then the other thing is that obviously they're they're vehicles that are doing what's called super luminal travel, so that they're moving into faster than light light speed. Mm hmm. So you're you believe that these projects are You're you're certain that these projects exist, these jump capes. Oh,
absolutely. In fact, I think that I think we've just in Project Camelot. I think that what we're trying to do is paint the big picture. So we don't drill down, like we don't try to get interviews with people on the same subject over and over again, Like we're not going out asking people have you seen a UFO and you know, getting all their latest abduction stories. What we are doing is we are looking for pieces of the puzzle so that we can get a great overview of what is really out there
and what it is is being kept from the people. And so I have to say that time travel is one of the most important key areas that I would encourage any of your listeners to go into deeply, because some of the secrets revealed there have to do with what kind of multi dimensional beings we truly are as humans, and also what the universe and what outer space really is
all about. I want to before I ask some of the questions from the chat one of them, and I'm sure it's a question all of us, you know, in this field space, and I want to I'm sure you've heard it before. And this gentleman's asking about extraterrestrials and demons, are they demoned fallen angels and things like that? How do you answer that? And what has your research shown? Well, there are, okay, there are
entities that don't take physical bodies except to perhaps possess them. So there are you know, non physical entities out there and they're very real and they are affecting our time space. And then there are you know, different levels of development, different evolved beings, which include what could be termed aliens, some of which are very human in other words on Naki for example that Zacharai Sitchen writes about, they have physical bodies, they're not going around as as demons
so to speak. Then there are other levels. I mean, there are reptilians, there are grays, there are I mean, there are so many races. Clifford Stone said there were fifty seven different people. Dan Beerschan only talked about for one of those races here were light beings. So there are there are so many levels to reality as we know it and to to the hidden world. I guess you might say that I wouldn't. I wouldn't rule out demons as being very real entities. No, not at all, they're
real. However, I would say that you know that aliens or most alien races are not do take physical bodies on some level. It depends what dimension they're in. So essentially that phenomenon could exist, but it doesn't explain everything. Not every extraterrestrial as a demon or an angel, not by any means, you know. And again a demon or an angel would be a discarnate being, so then they can take physical form, actually much more as an
illusion than a reality. But you know that that would be a temporary state for example. So getting back to some of these other witnesses, and another thing from the question from the chat, do you have like a verification process where you try to verify some of these witnesses and find out if they indeed did work in some of these places that they say they worked in. Yeah.
Absolutely. We First of all, we between the two of us, for those of you that you know are familiar that you will know that we're very different personalities and that's been our strength. It's made it challenging at times because we have very different viewpoints often and we have to come to a middle ground to continue our work. You know, we have to come into an agreement on things. But basically what's really interesting is that we're pretty well aligned
when it when when Bush comes to shove on those things. And yet his background is much more science and my background is much more art, and I guess spiritual or metaphysics, metaphysical pursuits. So when you put those two together, and and that isn't to say that I don't have a science background, because actually I have some science in my in my background, but I you
know, by and large his experts pieces in the science area. So that helps us when we're evaluating witnesses and the people that we do want to spend time interviewing or talking to. The Other thing is, again, because we both have huge backgrounds researching, we're able to substantiate whether somebody's saying something that makes sense or has been out there on the circuit, and if not, if it's totally new, how logical it is and so on, and the
other thing. And the other thing we do a lot of is is cross correlate information so that we can find out whether if you get a lot of different people saying that come from very different backgrounds saying something is going on, then it begins to become more likely. For example, if you get a scientist and you get somebody who is abducted and they both say there's a phenomena that they came across and it's the same, then you might want to sit
up and listen. So there's a lot a lot of cross correlation. The other thing is that we get to know our witnesses very well. We spend great deal of time with them. Sometimes we go to their homes, we get to know their you know, people close to them. We also have gone to places close to places of business for various whistleblowers like Henry Eagans and gotten to know some colleagues like for instance with Duncan o'finnian. It's it's a
fascinating realm and and we we do we do our homework. So sweet, yeah, you're probably here. I got a little bit of static on us side. I'll figure out how to fix that in a second. But hopefully it doesn't distract you, but they kind of so, which you know, I can understand about the correlating people's information. So when you hear from a lot of different people something similar, that gives it more substance. So use that kind of such as with the jump gate type the thing. You've heard
about this sort of technology across the board from different types of people. Yeah, it's very interesting what we heard about it from Henry Beacon. We heard about some level of that technology from Van Berish in regard to looking blast and also you know, reverse the cylinder seals and using that. We also have heard from Pete Peterson, our most recent witness in regard to that. So again, these people come from vastly different backgrounds. Their time in the military
industrial complex was very different, their level of access is very different. So it's very interesting when they both come up with the same story independent of each other. And actually when we got that information from Henry at the time, he didn't know anything about Dan Rish for example. And again Pete Peterson, who we spoke to more recently, he didn't know anything about Henry Deacon, you know. And so again what we have a project handlot is witness testimony.
Now that's a very specific kind of thing. What we don't do is collect hard evidence that people. Some people are very into tangibles, you know, like when they recovered I don't know a part of the UFO from from Roswell. That's a whole different dynamic, and that's not what we're involved in.
Gotcha. So you know one of the people that you're mentioning and I think you have a lot of information for and it's hard to come across information on this gentleman, it's Dan Burish, and I was wondering if you could explain to the listeners who he is and kind of what his story is about. Okay, well, that's actually going down the rabbit hole rather far. I have to say that there's a tremendous amount of information out on the internet
about him, some of which is not correct. And the other thing is is that we have hours of in depth interviews with him that I would highly recommend to your listeners. But very briefly, he was recruited by what's known as as MJ twelve, who was an organization to handle the extraterrestrial problem, if you will, back in the Truman administration and in theory started out with twelve members, but now is a much bigger organization also going in under another
name are a series of different names. Right now, it's actually called SLOT from what we understand, it's called Scion SiO, but prior to that was called Committee of the Majority. Prior to that it was called ps PS forty
or something. I mean, it's had many names, but basically it's a it's a group of individuals that are from the military industrial complex, also from high level Illuminati groups and families and they they they basically put offered to Dan an offer he couldn't refuse, which is something maybe through a lot of scientists, talented young scientists, and he was recruited as a microbiologist to work for them, and he was brought in on a sorry, I'm sorry for this.
I've got a call coming into the background here, how to avoid that anyway, and he he had an interaction with a with an alien who was recovered as one of the EPs who were was on the Roswell I think it was the Kingman. Yeah, not Roswell, but the Kingman Crash. And he was what's called the P fifty two Orion, and he was alive, he wasn't dead, and he had had a skin problem and as a microbiologist, Dan was brought in because Kayella actually chose him, even though he wasn't
one of the most highly qualified scientists there at the time. The et Kayella took a liking to Dan and basically wanted Dan to be the only one to take skin samples from him. And this was down in Area fifty one, you know, the notorious underground base in s four and so that's the beginning of the Dan Brish story and from there it just mushrooms into all different directions. And again I highly recommend all of our interviews with Dan Brish. Yeah,
definitely, he's very interesting. I mean, I thought him at the UFO Congress a couple of years so, being interviewed viewed by Rob Simone. And I've looked online and there is a lot of info, but it doesn't seem like a lot at least I haven't been able to find a lot of the info that comes straight from him as far as interviews and things like that. There's a lot of stuff that claimed to come from him, but I think that it is a kind of a little treasure you have there with so
many videos and direct interviews with dan Berry show and very interesting case. Yes it is, and there's a power. This is why Project Camelot really exists, is the power of being able to be face to face with somebody who is saying something about their experience and really being able to evaluate what they're saying by body language, by seeing their facial expression, their emotional you know, content and so on behind what they're talking about. So that's that's something unique
that you won't get if you just read a transcript. Yeah, having met and talked with a lot of these people, myself, would this is a question. I'd be kind of related to what you just talked about. A lot of these people when you meet them and you talk to them, they do have that emotion and you know, you really believe that they experience what they're talking about. However, when you go back and you think about what each of them had said, a lot of the things that these guys talk
about don't jive. You know that they don't exactly all fit together. How do you explain there or how do you deal with that? Well? I think it can be very complex. In other words, that's a general question,
so I couldn't really reply to it very specifically. I could say that depending on what you're referring to. Sometimes it's kind of like think about life as you know it, and think about how many disagreements that there are out there are Scientists don't even agree on anything hardly if you've ever spent much time with scientists, and what you find is that it's kind of like a raw scho mon situation in which even if an event happens, I don't know,
a car wreck in front of your eyes, you're going to have a point of view. Everyone's going to have a point of view, and they're going to be slightly different now depending on the I mean, if you throw into that the fact that we have multiple realities operating simultaneously. We have things like time travel, we have things like purposeful you know, aims like electromagnetic pulses,
weaponry, scalar weaponry used to distort our reality around us. And then you have people who are perhaps in an emotional state of one kind of or another, or they have some religious overlay in which they they've been taught something since they were a child and they decide that everything has to fit into that religious way of explaining the universe. It means that if say an et comes.
Let's let's get this example. If an et comes to visit you and it's a gray and they they want to abduct you, they're going to appear to you because they can shape shift into whatever they want. They're going to appear to you as I don't know, mother Mary or or some you know, some benevolent religious icon, like an angel, for example, because you believe angels and you don't believe in aliens. So they'll they'll come to you in these in these forms, and then you will be more receptive to them.
They're not stupid, they're they're actually extremely intelligent. Even even the biological entities such as as some of the grays are are. You know, they're artificial intelligence. They're very very intelligent. They understand how to read what it is you want, what it is you want to project into your world, and what you will exp or what you will you know, what will make you afraid, so and so forth. So throw all of that in there,
and you really have such a hodgepodge of perceptions among humans. And then you have to add the fact that most people are part of the matrix and they've been lied to since they were children, both by their parents, by the media, et cetera, and how to interpret the world around them and how to really see the world without blinders on. It becomes a huge complex
puzzle. And that's that's really why we exist and why we do Project Camelot, because we're trying to break through that matrix and we're trying to get at the truth. It's just very difficult, and so some people really do believe
what they're saying. They really do believe that they saw us. And so, however, what they really saw with all the techniques of mind control and you name it might be fairly different, right right, Yeah, And you know why you're talking about that, which is kind of fitting, is you know, I've got a couple people in here who are, you know, asking those questions about the demons, and one of them is messaging me personally saying, you know, how come I bring up the name of Jesus and
I get kicked out? And I certainly have not kicked them out of the chat, and I've never kicked anybody out of the chat or something like that. But like you say, at the same time, you know, I think when they're asking for openness and people to be open to their concepts and ideas. I think they have to be open as well, and making sure we don't have the blinders kind of like you're talking about. Yeah, it's I mean, the universe is wide open. We try to stay as open
as possible. What we feel is that we are basically, in a sense, investigative journalists, and so we're constantly investigating these problems, these these questions, and although we may get an answer that seems to answer most things at a certain time, what we've found is that usually there's another layer. And
as Richard Hoagland says, the lay is different at every level. It's like the layers of an onion when you're unraveling the questions of the universe, and so you really have to you know, it's a matter of being evolved. It's a matter of recognizing your own higher self and beginning to open up all your chakras to being able to perceive all the different levels and on revent are
you going to get really access to the truth? Prior to that, you're just going to get versions of the truth, but they'll probably contain some falsehood. Yeah, and that my question was pretty general. But that does answer my question because you know, I struggle that with that myself, where you hear some person who you think is very credible and you take their word they say, well, the grades are here for that, and the grades are here, and you hear someone else who you think is a great who says,
well, they're here for a different reason. And all of these people who seem to be in the know have these different answers, so it's difficult to deal with them. And I think your answer you did address that. One of the other things I'd like to ask you about because I know that you have a lot of experience with the Wingmakers and I've read about them, but out there, I don't think a whole lot of people know what that's about. Could you maybe speak to that. Yeah, The Wingmakers dot com
is a multimedia website. It's created by a person who goes by the name of James and I had the very good fortune, both Bill and I to interview him on camlot. He wouldn't do a face to face interview. I'm still waiting for that to happen, believe it or not, but he doesn't
want to go on camera. But he did do a written interview with us in which we were allowed to ask him everything that that came to our minds, and it was fascinating the answers, and it actually ended up to be a highly successful interview in terms of the Wingmakers material, because I think we asked the kind of questions that maybe other people hadn't hadn't actually asked, or
maybe not in that way. But but Wingmakers is, as I said, James, he does not consider himself to be a channeler per se, although he is in touch with the Lyrens from the planet Lyra or Lera, however you want to call it, and he is he basically feels he's a he's a creator. He quite aware of his own et lineage I think would would
be the best way to put it. And so he's speaking for a group of people, beings that are from another planet, from that were to too many in many ways, our ancestors, but our ancestors going back, you
know, much farther back than say be on an Aakey. And so they come from a very positive point of view, a very deep point of view, and and so they communicated a certain amount of information through James, some of which is put into music, some is in art, that is paintings, and the basics there's a basic story that has to do with called the Ancient Arrow Project. It's an e book and I believe it's available for free or by buying the first CB that that that that of music and it partially
it's it's on the website. You can certainly read the interviews with UH with Nruda, who is I think basically James in in you know, fictional UH mode UH. And and that story is fascinating, and that's the story I wanted to make a movie about. It has to do with a scientist that
defects from the n s A and who has come across UH. There was a discovery of a technology, a small device that was left behind by what a race of beings called the Wingmakers, who did cave paintings containing coded information and about our reality and about the universe and about who we are, and also predicting or telling humans warning about the eventual discovery of our planet and invasion by basically a race of robots. And so it's it's kind of a convoluted
story. It's it's it's a wonderful story. It has to do with basically reaching a certain degree of enlightenment and and and it's just a fascinating story. It's like a mystery, and in many ways I think it's put into fictional form, but it is actually I think based in luck to a large degree
on fact. M Yeah, we had some local people, some friends of mine when I lived in Denver that that met, and I never had a chance to meet up with them, but I had been to the website and it is beautiful, all the art and everything, so something to check into. People. So with all of these interviews and all of the stuff that you've been doing, you guys decided to put on a conference. Exactly well,
I was, I have to say. I live in southern California, about forty miles north of LA and I think it was on a Sunday and I was just laying on the beach and this friend called me and suggested that we do a conference of our own. And I don't know why he was doing that or saying that. At the time, we were being invited to conferences to speak and certainly some friends of Bill in the Swiss ground Crew.
We're thinking of doing the Zurich conference at the time, but I hadn't really thought of doing one in La or in the LA area until this person suggested it, and it's true that we had quite a following. We have quite
a following. So we've had i mean, more than nine million visitors since in the last over three years that we've been in operation, and we get huge amounts of people to our side every day, so we've really grown and it just seemed like a great idea to bring together our whistleblowers and other you know, Camelot witnesses is what I call them, and all get together and basically have a sort of a wonderful meeting of the minds and also educational opportunity
for people to come and listen to these people and meet them in person. And so that's exactly what we've got going. And it's going to be on September nineteenth and twentieth, which is a week away, and on the eighteenth, that night we'll have a meet and greet in the lobby for people that just want to come and say hello. Basically, it's at the Burbank Convention Center Marriott Bourbank Marriott Convention Hotel and Convention Center. I guess it's the official
name. And so we have a website. You can go to our website and click through to the actual conference website where you buy the tickets, if you just scroll down and look for it's called Awake and Aware in LA and again it's a Project Camelot conference. And there's a poster there. You'll see it sort of like a picture of UFOs and it says Project Camelot and click
on the poster and you can get to the website. And the actual website url is a Projectcamelot dot org slash Awake and Aware and the end is spelled spelled out A and B, so there's no spaces or anything. Awake and Aware and then then just go to that website and you'll be able to buy tickets. We're also selling tickets to the door. They'll be twenty five dollars more at the door, so I encourage people to buy them online prior to
the morning of the event. We are having some fascinating people, Bob being David Wilcock. We have Pete Peterson, our recent whistle blower, will be speaking. Duncan o'finnian he's the super Soldier for those of you that then know.
And Miriam Dellacado, she works with She has a relationship with the Tall blond Ets and also works with indigenous people, trying to bring them forward to speak to the world at this important time period that we're entering into, which is sort of like a shift, very important shift of consciousness that we're all undergoing that started a couple of years ago really and is going to go until
around twenty seventeen. It's kind of a window that we're entering. And then I wanted to ask because you guys definitely are getting pretty popular or have been, and I think people are pretty excited about your conference. I mean, it seems like every time I go to a conference or a MoveOn meeting or something, people are saying, did you see Project Camelot, Did you see
through the Bed? You know, a lot of talks. So I think people are really excited about it. And one of the questions I like to ask is what do you think makes your conference, you know, special and unique, different than the other UFO conferences let's say that are around. Well, I have to say, because it's Project Camelot, were and because we've been out there and you know, we have our the witnesses we bring to the four are a lot of them are whistle blowers. There will be some
whistleblowers in the audience. We're also having you know, people like Jordan Maxwell and Bill Eagle will be wandering around talking to people as well. So there's a kind of a community that's formed around Project Camelot, and that makes it a lot different kind of a vibe. Bill and I are also very open. We tend to you know, socialize a lot, network with people. Were will be around and about constantly, so it's kind of a whole different
vibe. It's not like it's put on an official way. It's really much more of a place where people can come and really explore and get into the depth of these questions. There's just no question about it that Bill and I are absolutely dedicated to finding out the truth and to bringing whatever it is forward.
And one of the things that happened to us recently we were on stage in Barcelona and Henry Deacon and I walked on the stage at the end of Bob Bean's talk about Mars, and Henry revealed for the first time that he was a person who had been on Mars and had worked in black projects. And basically the people on the stage who were organizing the event told us, you know, to leave, to get off stage and here is a what you would think is the most important revelation that's ever you know, hit a
stage anywhere at any UFO conference, and they didn't. They didn't feel the crowd was ready. And so that perception and that perspective of the conference goers you were not going to get at a conference that we put on. You
know, uh, we are. We are basically ready and willing to consider almost anything, right, Yeah, And I mean just I can see their perspective in a way because I've put on conferences and stuff, and you know, you have a lot of people approaching you with a lot of interesting things to say, and it's hard to get everybody up on the stage to say their thing and try to run something organized at the same time. Yeah, for sure, I mean that's best totally understandable. But in this case,
it was going to break. You know, people were yelling they let them be, let them be all this kind of thing, and let's hear them talk and so and so forth. And Plus Bob Dean and Henry Deacon are both our witness is. We were invited to the conference. We were not asked to speak, but we were asked to handle a panel discussion, which is on the web on disclosure. So it's not like we were just running
the mill people in the crowd, if you will. In our project Camelot, we did have a very important revelation that was completely pertinent to Bob Dean's presentation. He was showing bases on Mars some amazing impressive photographs that I don't
think I've ever been seen before. So, you know, you really have to realize what kind of world we're living in right now, and you really do need to be ready for anything, and sticking with some sort of old fashioned rules, rules and regulations is not going to get us through to the next, uh, to the next paradigm or the next you know, revelation revealing the truth and we all of us are being sort of stretched at the moment, and uh, it's a very interesting arena that we're entering in terms
of consciousness. Yeah, there seems to be that there was a lot of
excitement at that Barcelona conference. Yes, absolutely. Well, another one, if you're really interesting whistleblowers, who you're talking about, who is also speaking at your conference, like you mentioned, is Duncan Opinion the super Soldier, And wow, you know, he has a lot of things to say about and you can correct me and elaborate, but things on psychic warfare, and even if I if I'm not mistaken, he talked about changing his own molecular
structure to be able to walk through walls and things. That's absolutely correct, he you know, and this is this is actually just the beginning of the subject. The subject of super soldiers is a very hot topic, I have to say. And Duncan apparently we understand from another their secret source that Duncan was actually the prototype on the human level for what appears to be a robotic race of super soldiers that are being developed and that are almost indistinguishable from humans.
And therefore there are things like Terminator, the Terminator movies. Movies are a great tool to to discover the secrets that the powers that be don't want you to know, at least they won't tell you to your face, but they will reveal them in movies. And and so yes, Duncan has you know, has a lot of skills and abilities that were that were actually built into him and and going through walls is one of is one of them. I mean, these are things that Yogi's if you want to look at it
from that point of view also have had these kind of skill sets. The question is whether or not that, you know, the powers that be are basically trying to train and create sort of a superhuman that is capable of just about anything. And on the one hand, I think we all want to be superhumans. I think that that's not unusual, and I think that there's nothing wrong with that. At the same time, you know, whether you're going to have a race of fighting machines so to speak, is a whole
other matter, and what kind of society we're going to live in. Yeah, that's why I think it's fun about you know, X men and heroes where it's like, what would you do, you know, if you had a superpower? And all the struggle they have with that exactly. It's actually
not science fiction, it's more science fact. At this point, I think a lot of people are going to be interested because I remember when you all interviewed him and there was a lot of buzz around that as well, and so I think a lot people are going to be interested to hear it from uh, you know, be able to hear him live and directly and possibly interface with him. So I imagine a lot of people are excited about that absolutely, you know, it's it's it's a really exciting opportunity again to meet
these people. Another person that'll be there is Rich Dolan. He's going to have his second edition of UFOs in the National Security State. He just finished his second book. Rich Dolan is an incredibly dynamic speaker, and his evidence for the cover up is so just it's incredibly persuasive and and well documented. And he's just he's an he was a Rhodes scholar, and he's just an
amazing historian. And he's also a very compelling speaker. So, you know, it's really fascinating the kind of people that we have there at the conference again, which is going to be a week away, and I just encourage everyone to come on out. We have room for eight hundred people and a day and it's going to be very exciting. And Bill and I are going to be doing one of our presentations as well, and Bob Dean will be there, and George Green and David Wilcock and Marcia Schaeffer, who is Bob
Dean's wife but is a e t uh. She she's a contact beee in her own right and works with executives. Believe it or not in helping them develop their own sort of how to interface with the world as we know it in that conventional reality and their careers and and and also put together that with whatever et experiences they might have had or or opening awareness or or beginning of consciousness that they're they're achieving at the moment. So there's there's a lot to
draw from. Alfred weber Is is the person who coined the term exopolitics, and he's got something of a visionary and a wonderful man, And it's just there's just no limit to the kind of things that are going to be talked about at this event. It's going to be We're also having live music on the Saturday night, so there's that's going to be thrown in. It's just going to be a lot of fun. Yeah, And I think that is a niche, you know, a whistleblower conference. It's kind of what you
might call it. And uh, that is certainly something different, which is probably something that is needed. And it should make for a really good weekend. So I know a couple of our guys here with open minds are going to be out there and I can't wait to hear back from them, and to hear their experiences and everything. So it's a great, great service you put together. And I mean, man, if you want to see a lot of interviews, can get a lot of mind blowing information that will hopefully
open open up your perception. Just the number of videos you have is overwhelming at your website, Yeah it is, and we just we just released a new one actually called It's a Future Talk that we shot in Barcelona with our whistle blower Henry Beacon, who's on camera and people can see him, you know, alive, even shows his kingbrid All right, well the audience didn't hear that, but we did. You know, on our headsets we can hear robotic British lady detail us. There's ninety seconds left, but thank you
very much for being on the show. Projectcamelot dot org is where people go can go to look at your information and to also see the awaken Aware conference. So thank you very much for being on the show. Thank you so much for having me. All Right, well, if you all could hear the little British girl in my ear, she is telling me we are out of time unfortunately, but like I said, next week, next Thursday, seven days from today, it is my payday, which makes it even more
exciting and wonderful. We'll have Dean Hagland from the X Files, one of the Lone Gunmen, and I'm real excited. He's not just a celebrity, he's also been researching in UFOs for a long time, so we're gonna have a lot to talk about, So be sure to be there and I will talk to you all soon. Adios Muchaco's Yeah, I land back Down called get Back Day that I land Bat called getting back backda