Off the Rails

1. Julia Rock [@jul1arock], reporter at the The Lever, and Allison Fisher [@citizenfisher], director of the Climate and Energy Program for Media Matters for America, on why the Ohio derailment was a foreseeable disaster and how dearth of early media coverage, which failed to hold parties accountable, left space for distrust. Listen.

2. Gönül Tol [@gonultol], the founding director of the Middle East Institute's Turkey program and author of "Erdoğan’s War: A Strongman’s Struggle at Home and in Syria," on the impact of government corruption on Turkey's death toll after this month's earthquake. Listen.

3. Natasha Hall [@NatashaHallDC], a senior fellow at the Middle East Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, on the ways politics have played into a delay in aid in Syria. Listen.

4. Keren Landman [@landmanspeaking], senior reporter covering public health and emerging infectious diseases at Vox, on the risks of bird flu and if we should be worried about another pandemic. Listen.

Music:
Fallen Leaves - Marcos Ciscar
Invitation to a Suicide - John Zorn
Berceuse In D Flat Major, Op. 57 - Ivan Moravec
Time Is Late - Marcos Ciscar
When Doves Cry 
Airborne Toxic Event
Lachrymae Antiquae - Kronos Quartet
White Man Sleeps - Kronos Quartet
The Old House - Marcos Ciscar

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