It's time to abandon campaign debates if that's the best we can do

The english federal leaders' debate was, in the words of Dana Bash, "a shit show."  I heard "pundits" complaining that we always complain about the format and never focus on the substance of the debate. That's because the format is the problem. It doesn't allow for substance, let alone debate. The time has come to either overhaul the system, (take it out of the hands of the media consortium), or scrap the debates altogether.