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Jim Kwik ON: Why You Feel Burned Out & How to Break Free From Your Limiting Beliefs

Nov 28, 202253 min
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Today, I sit down with one of my good friends, Jim Kwik. Jim Kwik is a widely recognized world expert in brain performance, mental fitness and memory improvement. After a childhood brain injury left him with learning challenges, Kwik created strategies to dramatically enhance his cognitive performance. He has since dedicated his life to helping others unleash their true genius and brainpower. is the author of the NY Times and #1 WSJ bestseller: “Limitless - Upgrade Your Brain, Learn Anything Faster, Unlock Your Exceptional Life.” Make sure to grab a copy here!

Jim tells us about the power of choice and how transformation is just like a butterfly inside a cocoon. He also talks about rejecting a limit from someone we love and how we can break free from a limitation.

This episode was filmed at Soho Works: 10 Jay Street. 

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What We Discuss:

  • 00:00:00 Intro
  • 00:02:17 Is this limitation real or not?
  • 00:05:02 Open mindedness vs. delusion
  • 00:06:03 The power of choice
  • 00:11:15 Limitations are safe
  • 00:14:59 Transformation is like a butterfly
  • 00:18:57 Reflecting on someone else’s life
  • 00:22:11 Pain makes you present
  • 00:24:05 Living slow-paced
  • 00:26:27 Peace of mind
  • 00:29:42 Having options
  • 00:32:11 The Limitless Model
  • 00:41:46 Rejecting a limit

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Maybe you're not burnt out because you're doing too much. Maybe feel burnt out because you're doing too little of the things that make you feel alive. That the things I really liked you up. Everyone. Welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every single one of you that come back every week to listen, learn, and grow. Now, I know that you're here because you want to be happy, you want to be healthy, and you want to heal. I

think that's why I'm here too. When I sit down with a guest, that's what I'm hoping to do. I'm hoping to find moments of happiness, moments of health advice, and moments of healing. But one of the things I've been discovering lately that I want to let you in on is when I'm doing these interviews, some of the guests that I'm speaking to have phenomenal journeys and stories, but some of them also I get the opportunity to co create with. I want to discover new ideas while

we're in the podcast. I want to find new insights that we never even considered before. I want to take a moment to really see if we can let down our guard, let go of what we know, and maybe go into the unknown in a conversation. And today's guest is someone who's going to allow us to do just that. He is the foremost brain coach. He's an incredible author and an amazing podcast. My dear friend Jim Quick, the author of Limitless. If you don't have this book, it

is a phenomenal read. I highly recommend it. And the first time Jim came on the podcast, the book wasn't out yet, so I couldn't tell you about it, but I really hope that you will check it out. Jim, Welcome back to On Purpose. It's so great to have you here. When we first did this, and I want everyone to know this. When we first launched the podcast, you were I think you were one of the guests within our first six months. You were in my apartment where we used to shoot, and it was so kind

and gracious of you to come on. We were just starting out, we were just figuring out what on Purpose was and you supported us and it means the world to me. So I'll never forget that. But I love we were chatting offline before, which I loved, and we were talking about how we wanted this conversation to be special. I mean, that's what you asked me. How do I make this conversation and special? How do make it different?

And that's where this idea came from. Is when we're sitting with someone, it's like, how can we go back and forth? And you know, it sparked something new, but you asked me something and that's where I kind of want to start because it's kind of hopefully going to lead us down a random path, which I love. And I'll tell you the story. So I called up someone the other day and it's someone in my world, and I said to them, I have this idea and I really want to do this. I think it would be amazing.

And the first thing they said to me was, Jay, those things don't usually happen, right, That's not really possible, Like that's not like the most probable likely thing that we could make happen for you. Now, when I hear those kind of things, and we're talking about limitless and limitations. When I hear a limitation like that, my mind goes to the fact that it's never been done, is why I want to do it. Like that's what attracted to me in the first place. If it was already done,

then why would I want to do it again? And so I wanted to start there with you and go, how do we know if a limitation is real or not? Like, how do you know? Because we all have limitations. I love this conversation. I think the majority of limits are learned, and I could give you stories and anecdotes around that and some research. I think my purpose in life because

I was labeled limited in a way. We talked about this when I was on your show earlier about having my traumatic brain injury and being labeled the boy with the broken brain and my learning difficulties. I want to offer real hope and real help to those who are told they were harbor limited in some way, you know. And I really don't believe that this guy's a limit.

I believe our minds are the limit. There are all kinds of examples every day that when we change our mindset, some kind of form of our motivation or the methods we're using, that we could do things, that we could redraw our the borders and boundaries of what's possible. Yeah, and then you exemplify that, you would embody this idea

of becoming more limitless. Well, I think it was for me too, and thank you for saying that, but I think it was the same thing for me where I had also subscribed to the limits I thought society placed on me. And when you start to break one limit and you see this like light shining through a crack and you're like, oh, like this limit can actually be broken, you then start thinking, well, how many limits can we break? Right? Like, That's where I'm at right now. But I wasn't always

like that. I think it's important to talk about that. There was a time in my life where I was living in the rules, within the barriers, and now I'm at a place in my life where I'm like, well, which barriers can we push? And that journey for me has been an exciting one and a fun one. Tell me, now, what do you think is the difference between open mindedness like believing in the limitless versus delusion? Because there's also a fine on that side as well, like is there

a line of how have you thought about that? And even if we don't have an on so I want to figure that out with you. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, I think behind antenna kind of results in our life, we need to do a behavior, new behavior or a new set of behaviors. I think in order to be able to execute that behavior, we need a mindset or a belief that allows that to be possible. The one that's very famous Roger Banister in nineteen fifties who broke

the four minute a mile And what happened after that? Right, other people started breaking in and there weren't big advancements and shoo technology, nutritional support, training methodologies, but there was a change in belief about what was possible because it wasn't a real limit. And so even when people are training, he wasn't this delusional. I don't think just because if you believe it, it it doesn't mean it's going to happen.

But I feel like if we don't believe it, it dramatically recruits reduces the chance to be happening, you know, because act accordingly. Yeah, you know, And so many people and they're shrinking what's possible to hit their minds, And I would always say, what if we did the opposite, What if we expanded our minds in this situation to fit more what's really possible? Yeah, yeah, I think that's a great, great answer. You're so right, it's it's fascinating

how everything is just a thought. I was talking to a couple of friends a couple of nights ago, and I was talking to him about the Honeya surgery that I just went through, and he was saying to me, like, how tough was it? And I had a tough version of it. We were just talking about it. Some people wake up and in the next twenty four hours they're fine. It's taken me four weeks to feel fifty percent again, right like that that's how I feel, maybe fifty sixty

percent again. And I know people have gone through for twelve months, right, They're yeah, people are still going through it. And so he said to me, he was just like, do you, like, how did you not let yourself get depressed?

Because like the first week I couldn't walk and I had something called a telectusis, which is like a partial collapse of the lung, so I couldn't breathe every three breaths almost and then my wife Freshmandior Hospital to er like one morning at three am because they thought am I had blood clots and I didn't, thankfully, And then the second week when I started to walk, it was still like on and off pain. It was very uncertain. I then ended up getting back pain because I was

on my back for so long. I couldn't lie on either side because I had it on both sides, and so then my back was like So I was waking up at three am every day for three weeks because I couldn't sleep anymore because my back was hurting. So I was walking around at three am. I couldn't sit to meditate. I was doing walking meditations. And he was like, how did you not get depressed during that time? And I said to him that for me, it was the

power of my mind, and it was a story. It was like I'd lost the strength in my body for sure, But I kept repeating to myself, I'm happy, I'm healthy, I'm healing. I'm happy, I'm healthy, I'm healing. And what I was saying to me, it's not that because I said that I was happy, healthy and healing. It's that I had a choice of a thought, which is what you're saying, belief that I could have either believed I'm sad, I'm hurting and it's all over, or I'm happy, I'm

healthy and i'm healing. And as just as you said, it's not that that belief or that thought made me better, but it's just that if I didn't have that thought, it would have been way harder to get through that pain. And so I love that to see that in practice what you just said for me was huge. You know, in Limited Lists, I talked about seven lies to learning,

because my wheelhouse is teaching celebrated learning. Teach me able to read faster or learned languages, or oarn people's names and prove their memory, focus and lie for me as stands for a limited idea entertained, limited idea entertained. It's so good. It's getting us to self reflect on you know, is it really that you're too old or you're not

smart enough. People come to me at events after they see me do these memory demonstrations or maybe I'll remember people's names or do something, and they'll say, Jim, I'm just not smart enough. I have a horrible memory. And I always say stop. If you fight for your limitations, you get to keep them. I peer limits, they're yours, and often we don't know that. You know the power

of our mind. You know, it's I mentioned this last time, but it's like your brain is this incredible supercomputer and yourself talk your thoughts on the program that will run. So tell yourself, I'm not good at remembering people's names. You will remember the name of the next person to may because you program are supercomputer, not too so. How do you transcend these lies? How do you end the trance?

Because these live, these were learned right, this idea that genius is born this side, this idea that we're only using, you know, a small fraction of our brain ten percent or something like that, and you can unravel these lies. There's and you mentioned the very key word. I put a quote in the book from a French philosopher and he says, a life is the C between B and D. Life is a letter C between B and D. B

stands for birth, d stands for death. Life C. And you said a choice that I really do believe that our lives are some total of all the choices we've made up to this point. You know, what are we gonna eat? What are we can feed our minds to spend time with? Where are we going to live? You know? What are we going to believe? Yeah? What are we going to think and say to ourselves on a regular basis?

And I believe that these difficult times they can diminish us, these difficult times they could distract us, which a lot of people feel distracted, or these difficult times they can develop us. Yeah, Ultimately we always decide. So the power of choice. You may you made the choice in terms of what you choose to be able to believe, and with that choice, you know, comes a lot of responsibility,

and with that responsibility comes a lot of power. I love what you clarified there though, because the choice can be harder, Like I didn't go through a life threatening surgery. If someone went through that, it's the choice becomes harder and harder to make if your stakes are higher and higher. But the choice brings power with there, and and so it's like we need that power to come with it, right, Like,

and that's what you're making clear for us. I'm one of the things that I'm thinking about when we're talking about limitations. Limitations almost make us feel safe. I think people don't often connect the two, but they do. Like, if you aim low, chances are you'll get there, and so you won't experience disappointment. Right if you place a limitation on yourself and say, well, I can't do that. Then when you can't do it, it doesn't it makes you feel good like, oh, at least I knew in

your validating and you're validated exactly. It's that you're looking for that. So, how is a feeling that makes us feel safe? Actually sometimes the thing that's blocking us from feeling great? Yeah, I think a lot of us will want to you know, where our nervous system is not necessarily set up for growth. I think in the beginning it is until we've had some kind of pain or trauma. Then then we want to be able to survive and

keep ourselves safe. There's this idea that, let's say negativity or pessimists are accurate more because maybe they set that standard or that belief a little bit more achievable, but optimists maybe aren't succeed more because of it because they have that kind of moonshot idea or there thinking the brain really wants to keep you, keep you alive, right, and it doesn't want to change. Takes effort, It takes energy to be able to achieve their goals. You know.

There's this thing I saw on Twitter the other day saying life is hard for one of two reasons. Either because you're leaving your comfort zone, life could be very hard,

or because you're staying in your comfort zone. If people thought about change, which ultimately you know, most people want if they're healthy some area of their life, relationships, health career or something, and they're looking outside and they want to achieve something else, it's a lot safer to be able to say to keep something realistic without a doubt. And I'm like that way also, Yeah, of course, you know, in terms of my book deadlines, what would becoming realistic?

Is even possible to get it done in X amount of time? And I also find that part of kinting results is reaching and then you know and then stable, like you stretch and then you stabilize, and then you stretch and you stay. We can't be I don't feel like we could be stretching all the time that you could reach, reach, reach, but you have to recover. We have to replenish, you have to you have to be

able to rest also as well. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to add to that because I know we both like a literation, but it's like stretch, stabilize, and then forego. Like there's also what's a sacrifice. I guess like, but in a positive sense, surrender, Yeah, because I found that I definitely am shocked at my capacity with the amount of things I do today that I didn't know wherever possible.

So if someone told me ten years ago, Jay, one day, you're going to do this, this, this, this, this, I would have said, no way, I can just do one thing. And we did exactly what you said. So every year, I would stretch myself every year. And you're right, you can't just stretch, stred, stret stred, stretch every month. But

every year I'd add one thing. So like, first we started creating videos, and then after we started creating videos, we did the podcast, and then we did the podcast, we did our courses in programming, and then we did our then I wrote my book and then after that, you know, so we stretched ourself a little, and I stretched myself a little every year, but then we stabilized.

But I've also found that I've also had to let go of something, sacrifice, some things that once upon a time we're really important to me, but today they're not as important. And in order to stretch and stabilize, I had to learn a sacrifice too, And I think that's something we struggle with, Like, I think one of our biggest limitations is wanting to hold on to stuff. Yeah, right, Like it's like there's no space to shift away and hold on to something else. If we're holding onto this.

If I'm like no, no, no no, I want this to be there for the rest of my life, I'm missing out. Like what about that kind of limitation where it's not a limitation that I think about myself, it's actually a limitation because I want something to be there, If that makes sense. There is when we're talking about change or even transformation. The symbol for me is that of a like many people, butterfly, and while the beauty is in the butterfly, the growth is happening usually in that cocoon

and that crystalists. And it's one of those things where there's a story where there's this kid in the backyard when his parents are in the house and he comes across a caterpillar and he he doesn't allowed any pets, but he wanted to make this caterpillar his pet. So he runs in talks to his parents saying, kind of keep it, kind of keep it, and the mother says, yes, but you have to take care of it. You have

to be able to feed it and everything. And she gives him a mason jar, puts a little hole in it, and then he goes there and he opens it up and he puts like leaves in there for the for the caterpillar to eat, and a little tree branch for it to climb. And then and one day, as you can imagine, it spends this cocoon. And you know, the boy is enthralled, it is bewildered at this process of life.

And but he gets a little impatient because he knows what's coming right, that it's going to emerge as a butterfly. And then one day, lo and behold, there's you could see a little crack open up. And he gets impatient because he's taking too long. So he runs inside his house and he grabs scissors and he walks back outside because he knows else was to run with those scissors. But he clipped sit that whole open to be able to allow it to be able to get free. But

an interesting thing happened when this creature came out. It didn't look like a butterfly. Kind of looked like a butterfly, but it didn't really The wings are very shriveled. The body was very swollen, and it didn't fly, you know,

this thing he was looking forward to. And he cries to his parents, and the parents asked what happened, and he was explaining how he cut it open, and they explained to him because he was trying to make it easy for that creature, that that creature didn't have to develop the strength, right And actually when it pushes through that hole is when it takes the fluids inside of its body and it nourishes and goes out to the wings, and then it can become that butterfly and sword in

New Heights. And I guess I bring this up because I feel like even the past few years, people feel like maybe they were cocooning, you know, and they were in this place and they were alone, alone with their thoughts, alone with you know, their fears. It might be even feeling alone. And you and I have talked to many conversations about mental health and how you know, how our brain health is affecting our mental health. And I would

say that through struggles sometimes there is their strength. You know. My my struggles growing up were learning it was public speaking, you know, you know, life has a sense of humoricus. That's all I do is public speak on this thing called learning. But you know, disadvantage within the word disadvantage. There's that word advantage, right, And I always feel like there's some kind of advantage within within every disadvantage. Yeah, yeah, And it's hard to it's hard to see that when

you're in it, when you're inside the jar. Yeah, inside the cocoon. It's so hard to see it. But I think looking back at previous cocoons and seeing how you emerged is often the best bet you have. It's almost like, I know, I remember when I was at school, I'd always be like, well, last year I did well in my exams, how do I do well this year? Let me remember what I did last year. And that's a very small example. But even now, it's like when I

went through this surgery. The last surgery I had was when I lost my voice and I polyps in my throat, which was around ten years ago, and so for like I remember at that time, for months on end, I was drinking out of a straw and like I couldn't speak and had a white board where I would write things to my parents and my sister and my mom who were taking care of me, and I was like, Okay, well I got through that surgery, Like what mindset did

I need? Like what can I do now? Or what did I not do that time that I should get right now? And so I find like reflectionists such a great tool to overcome limitations, and I think reflecting on your own life and this is the part that I think I want to I want to talk about this with you because I don't know the answer and I don't think we've talked about this before, but we get so fascinated reflecting on other people's lives. Right, what is the news? What is pop culture news? What is mainstream

media doing? You're spending your whole day reflecting on someone else's life. So and so cheated on someone, So and so messed up the world record, like didn't make it, so and so like you know, they they fell off stage when they were performing their song or whatever it is. Right, Like, there's there's like this negative reflection on everyone else's life, but rarely do we cave out the time to reflect on our own life. Why do you think that is?

And where does that come from? And I just want to hear your thoughts on that because Reflection is something we all know how to do, we just don't necessarily do it inward. I think it could be an incredible advantage also reflection. I mean when you reflect on something, you're harnessing the power of your memory. And you know, as the memory coach, you know, I feel like it's not just remembering facts and figures and foreign languages or speeches or things that can make you more productive in

your performance. It's also reflecting and remembering the things that give you confidence and certainty moving moving forward. That reflection can be a superpower that hindsight could lead to foresight. So many people forget about their winds, you know, they forget sometimes other things that they overcame, you know. And so many people are scared of you know, someone watching this or listening to right now, it could be afraid

of making a mistake and looking bad. You know. I always tell people, well, if you make a mistake, you make it old whole l D and everything's inaccreative. Oh is you own it? You know, we don't put it outside of ourselves. We don't become a victim. We apologize that we hurt somebody, We fix it if we can. We take responsibility for it because that allows us to

be able to make it better. The l is you learn from it, and that's why we make mistakes, right there are stepping stones to make us a better person if we learn from it that there's maybe there's no failure, maybe there's feedback, or maybe there's no you know, you're not failing, maybe just failing to learn something, and so you want to be able to do that. But then the d is really where it lands. The das don't repeat it because so many people could learn in the moment,

But then they repeat it. They they repeat that mistake in their relationships or in their dating life. They repeat it. They forget what that junk food made them feel like, you know afterwards, or staying up late at night, yeah, you know, in terms of the rule in their sleep and darning their peace of mind the next day. So don't repeat it, because you know, insanity doing the same thing over and over again expecting different result. And sometimes

it's not insanity. Maybe sometimes it's just not managing or memory, you know, and remembering that those moments the hindsight where we've made you know, we're like everyone right now can imagine a time where they felt like they couldn't survive, you know, that they couldn't go any further. And the truth is, if they're listening to this, they did. They did survive it, you know, and to be able to

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Like I was thinking to myself that, you know, just a few weeks ago, I couldn't walk and I was walking really slowly. I was like, really dealing with the pain. I was like, okay, I never you know, I want to be so mindful. And then as soon as you start to feel better, it's so easy to just forget all of that and just start walking normally again and

being not mindful. And it's almost like that where it's like pain makes you really present and conscious and there, and then all of a sudden, when pain goes away, you're not present anymore and you kind of just get on with your life. And so I find it weird that sometimes our memory is so strong and sometimes it's so weak also when people have had a really painful trauma in the past, that pain stays with us and

that we almost don't let go of enough. But then sometimes when we've had certain pains, we let them go too quick. It's it's almost like how long pain stays with you is all pleasure stays with you? Is such a weird concept. And I guess what you're saying is that there are certain types of pain that we have to learn to let go. There are certain types of pain that we need to remember to not repeat the same mistake. And it's like, how do you know which

one's which right you know? Or how do you process it? And even in relationship a lot we have a lot of emotional pain, a mental anguish and relationships sometimes and you know it's even when you're thinking about forgiving someone, you could forgive them and not forget in terms of the lesson that they taught you. And even adversity, I mean, do you feel part of it as in hindsight, I think about what's the meaning of this right? That's a

choice that we can make at any given time. Do you think that what you went through most recently with your surgery, do you think it's Do you look at in any way as what is this teaching me? Yeah? Yeah, always I think for me, I mean there's a lot of lessons in it. One thing is I consider myself to be quite a mindful of healthy individual. I try and eat healthy, I work out, I sleep healthy, I

have good rhythms and routines. I definitely pushed the optimal performance, but like I'm like definitely always trying to figure that out. And I think things like this very humbling, And that's how that's the biggest meaning I take away from all of this stuff is you're not the control there, You're not Superman. You're not you haven't figured everything out. Like they're very humbling. They make you realize you're still in a human body and you have to deal with the

ups and downs of it. The second thing I think I took away from this whole journey was how much I've enjoyed being slow. Like it's I consider myself, like I want to say slow, I mean like I consider myself to be present mentally, but I think I'm quite fast physically, and I live a fast life physically, and mental presence is a beautiful thing when you live fast.

But having physical presence also, which this surgery made me have for the first time in a long time, probably since I was a kid, Like I can't remember, I've literally felt like there were times when I was teaching myself how to slowly walk again, and I put pressure on my feet and I was like, wait a minute, it's really nice living life this slow, Like this is actually really special, Like I hope I can hold on

to elements of this. And yesterday it was funny because I was with my friends in New York City and we were on a walk and usually we looked at it. It It was like twenty minutes to get someone. This

store was going to close in thirty minutes. And I know that if I was walking that path like five months ago, I'd have been like, we can do that in ten Like that's what I would have said, And I said to my friend, So I was like, look, I think I'm gonna do it in probably like twenty three minutes because I'm slower right now, right, and so we're only going to get seven minutes at the store. So if you guys want to go ahead, you guys, go ahead, and I'm going to walk at my pace.

And we walked there. We got there in twenty three minutes, and it was absolutely fine. But it was even just me having that shift. I was like, Wow, I'm really appreciating walking at this pace. Even though I could get more done before, there's there's a certain joy in moving at this space. So I fully agree with you. I think there's so much meaning, so many lessons, and that is the only way to live. I mean, you know, if you don't live that way, it just ends up

being another inconvenient Well, we certainly are. Everybody could as we had this shared adversity, right, it comes to different forms, you know, I mentioned my challenges learning public speaking as an adult. I had severe sleep issues from sleep apnea obstructive and I would I would for five years. I slept ninety minutes a night and it was it was just tearing my mind to that, Yeah, this is one of the things. And it wasn't straight, it was interrupted.

I would stop breathing. It was more of a genetic thing. And I would stop breathing two hundred and forty times a night. Each time was like ten seconds. And I did a series of surgeries. And I know how how humbling that could be, you know, and sometimes being reminded, UM that we aren't always this the superman or woman or or a girl. M you know, there's there's a there's a great foundation for for curiosity. So what can I learn from this? Um? A great appreciation to cultivate gratitude,

you know. I think what you appreciate tends to appreciate, yeah, you know, in our life for sure. And gratitude redwires our nervous system for greater productivity, for a greater performance, and certainly greater peace, you know. And I think peace of mind is high currency today without a doubt. With my sleep, though, you know, and that was a very

painful surgery. It was different than when you're a kid had taken and they took them my tonsils, my uvala and my soft palette, and I was, you know, for for weeks, couldn't breathe couldn't eat, couldn't do anything. Um. But I think when I learned from my sleep issues, you know, there was a gift in it, you know, when I would be able to read and remember and focus and you know, so I got to you know, live when I teach and practice what I thought, Yeah,

that's that's a big thing. And then the other part of it is I found out that and everything I did was you know for a reason, like there's nowhere else I'd rather be right now right. I would always say, you know, the heck y ask or heck no um because I think a lot of people get tired and because they have too many tabs opened, or maybe some people are watching right now feel burnt out because they're doing too much. Maybe you're not burnt out because you're

doing too much. Maybe feel burnt out because you're doing too little of the things that make you feel alive. That the things I really liked you up and you know, being in that cocoon, part of it is you could get clarity. You know, I think solitude when we choose to slow down and have you know, get space from noise, and when you say yes to somebody or something, you're

not saying no to yourself. And I think clarity using time, just even five ten minutes a day to just clarify what's Sometimes when you're going one hundred miles an hour, you're not thinking about oh am, I going in the right direction? Yeah, right, and asking yourself a simple question

like what's what's most important to me? You know, in my life, what's the most important to me in this moment, in my relationships, in my career, and then asking yourself on the other side, are my actions today aligned with those values? Yes? Because sometimes you know, we make doing something that's it's not just about time management for productivity,

it's about mind management, and it's about priority management. You know, the most important thing is to get the most important thing the most important thing, and you know that will allow you while you're cocooning. You know that clarity as well as doing so diretain things like care and contribution. I could alliterate all the seas. Yeah, it makes a difference to come out of this stronger, to be able to sort to new heights as we're going through this transformation. Yeah.

I think if someone's listeners right now and like really feeling limited in you know, the sense of how they feel about themselves, they're limited by how many options. I think options is an interesting thing, like you know, and it is different for different people. I remembered that when I was in the corporate world and when I was employed, and yeah, I didn't do what was meaningful to me. I wasn't passionate about what I did. It was just what I needed to do to pay the bills and

take care of things. What gave me more confidence was that I always would know if I had other options of what I could do, and I would have to entertain options in order to realize that I wasn't as limited as I thought I was. Because there was a part of me that believed I was like, well, this is all I can do, this is the only qualification I have, like no one else will give me a job. And then there was a part of me and I was like, well that's not true. Actually I could change

and shift and do this and do that. I think often we limit the number of options we think we have. It's it's almost like going back to that Edison quote of like, I didn't fail ten thousand times. I just found nine nine nine nine ways not to do it. And I think there's a there's a deeper thought from him that I loved when he said, and this is something I always hold on to. And Edison said, when you think you've exhausted all options, remember this, you haven't, right.

And I've always loved that because sometimes I feel like that sometimes I'm trying to make something happen, right. Maybe you're trying to get a book deal, maybe someone's trying to get a podcast deal, maybe someone's trying to raise a million dollars to save you a group of people from something that they're struggling with, and you try everything and then none of them work, and you think, oh, well, it's just not meant to happen. But Edison's take is,

well there's another. How do you kind of live for that one? More? Yeah? It doesn't make sense yet it does. They say that the problem is rarely the problem. The problem is our attitude about the problem. Yeah, you know, with with options, it's they've they've shown where it's one of those things where if you're if you're limited to one option or two options, you don't really have a whole lot of choice. But also if you have too many options, you might not actually anything because you struggle

with decision fatigue. Right, you have you have the menu is like fifty pages long, and then it you have this overwhelm and our brain primarily is it more of a deletion device, is trying to keep options out or information out, otherwise we become overloaded and also overwhelmed. And so that's that's a big part of it. You know, something I teach in everything. When i'mber, I'm working with a client, I just look through one framework and I

call it the limitless model. And maybe this will shed light and we can have a conversation about this where I believe limits are learned in one of three areas. And so if everybody we could turn this into like a little exercise, if everybody can think of an area where you feel limited, all right, So just think of any area where you feel like and limitless is for me,

it's not about like being perfect. Limitless is about advancing or progressing beyond which you currently believe or demonstrating as possible. And so if everybody thinks about an area of their health, and maybe it's a relationship, where do you feel like you're stuck, like you're not advancing? Where do you feel like you're in a box. Now, that box, by definition is three dimensional, right, and there's three forces that contain

that box, but they're also three four. These are the same three courses that will liberate you how to that box and help you become more limitless. So imagine that they were being represented by three intersecting circles. Some people are familiar with a ven diagram. It's kind of like Mickey Mouse. Two ears, two circles, and then a face, right, and they and they overlap. So the first one is your mindset. And so I believe that our mindset is something like I wasn't born with this idea that I

had a broken brain. It was imprinted on me, right, And our mindset comes from our experience through external environment, you know, through throughout other people's expectations and mindset, defining as your attitudes and assumptions about something, your attitudes assumptions about what's possible, your attitudes and assumptions about what you're capable of, because you could believe it's possible for somebody else to have that loving relationship or build that big

business or have one hundred thousand followers, but you might not believe it's possible for you, and you can still be stuck in that box. Besides what is possible, what you what you're capable of, what you believe you deserve. Right, a lot of people might be stuck in that box because they might know the right methods that may be motivated, but they don't believe that they deserve those things. So those are the things that I talk about uncovering and

unlimiting those those lies. So if you believe you're not smart enough, if you believe you're a slow reader, if you believe you're I am a procrastinator, whatever it happens to be, you're stuck in that box. The second circle that you have to take into account besides mindset, and there are many interventions by the way, like if you feel like you could identify a lie that you know, hey, I'm not smart enough, I don't know the resource whatever

it is. You know. There are things that people have talked about on your show, whether it's emotional freedom technique, em DR hypnosis. There's a ways of changing your belief systems. Right. The second circle, though, is just as powerful. The second m besides mindset is motivation, you know, and motivation. You could have a limitless mindset but not be motivated to get out of that box. You might be everything is possible, I deserve it, I'm capable, but you're not motivated to

get off the couch and do those things. You know. For me, there's a simple formula for sustained motivation, and it's P the letter P times E times S three. And so if we're to do a thought experiment and say what do you want to be motivated for? Maybe for some people it's to read every day. You know, leaders or readers. Somebody has decades experience like you do. You put into a book, think like a monk, and somebody sit down a few days and read that book.

They could download decades in days, but they're not reading every day. Maybe they're really good at buying a book, but they're not good at reading that book. This is some people, right, they're very good at adding to card and it sits on their shelf and become shelf help, not self felt right, But they're not motivated. And so maybe their mindset is yeah, it's good to grow, but

they're not motivated. So the peace dance for purpose, and what I mean by purpose is and you're an expert at this is just not just cognitive reasons, but how do you feel about something? Because we know we're not logical, we are more emotional, right, And you mentioned that if there's a song they can take you back to when your child, it's that emotional feeling, that mood that got linked to that information. It's just like a food or a fragrance that can take you back to when you're

a kid. So purpose allowing yourself to feel the benefits instead of just has to go from your head to your heart to your hands, right, and so allow yourself to feel that. But even if someone has purpose, they might not read because they E stands for energy, right. A lot of some people if they if they haven't slept because they have a newborn child, they can't focus, right, they can't have the mental fortitude. Or maybe they eat some junk food. And I don't think there's junk food.

There's junk and there's food, but maybe they're they're they're in a food coma and they on the energy to study, right, so you have you know, we talk about the best brain foods how to reduce stress because it takes a lot of energy. Your pure group could take a lot of energy out of you else as well. But let's say you have a limitless purpose and limitless energy. The s three are those small simple steps, you know, those

tiny little actions you could take. So maybe it's working out and that's too big, or going back to reading. Maybe it's reading a chapter is too big for someone who doesn't do that. Maybe just opening the book is a small simple step. Reading one line is a small simple step. Maybe working out an hour a day is tough. Maybe getting your running shoes on, maybe getting yourself to

the gym as a small simple step. I think little by little, a little becomes a lot, you know, And so that's really the key is consistency, because if you're persistent, you could achieve it, but if you're consistent, you get to keep it. Yeah, and it's difference between something being attainable and sustainable over time. And then finally the last them are the methods. You know, once you have a

limitless mindset, you have a limits motivation. You could be doing old methods and still not yet where you need to go all methods of sales, or methods of learning, all methods of health. And you wonder why you're still stuck in that box. And so when's the last time we took time to upgrade our knowledge? Our skills are our abilities, you know. So those are the three ms. And if people draw that out or even imagine that, you'll notice that the three ms overlap and they create

three eyes too, where mindset and motivation crossover. The first eye is inspiration, right, because it changes what's inspiration something that changes your mindset about what's possible. And also you're a little bit motivated. You have some drive and purpose, but you might not have the methods, you might not have the instruction right, so you're still stuck in that box where mindset and methods crossover. You believe it's possible in your mind and you know what to do the methods.

That's the second eye, which is ideation. It just stays an idea, right, and nothing's happening because you're not motivated. And then finally, where motivation and methods crossover, you're the third eye, which is implementation. You're motivated, your purpose, you have energy and you know what to do to do that get out of that box. But you can still be stuck in that box because you're limited by your mindset, you know. And so that's what I think. And then

we're three, all three connect. You have the fourth eye, which is your identity, which is integration. It's just who you are and that's really the goal. So my my conversation with becoming more limitless is about redrawing, like where where are we stuck? And I think when you could identify, Oh, it's let's say someone can remember names. Is in my mindset? Do I believe I'm just too old or have a

horrible memory, or maybe that's not the case. Maybe it's hey, I don't have a purpose, I don't have a reason to remember their names. Yeah right, Or I'm just really tired, or I don't have the methods. I was never taught. There's no class on how to remember names. And then it gives you your your agency back, it gives your power back. Also, it's such a phenomenal framework. It's such a fantastic framework, and I know it's in the book Limitless.

It's it's such a great framework. And I love the way you break things down because, like you said, I think often we just spend too much time and well, we waste too much time just trying to figure out what the issue is, right, and it's one of those three. I Once you know that, then you can break it down. And I think you've just given people a real map to say, Hey, which area is struggling with with whatever limit they chose, And it works for yourself. And also

it's a map you could use with people around you. Yeah, it's a lens. When you're working with your kids and they're not doing something that they know they should do, you know, is that their mindset? Do they not believe in themselves? I believe they're capable of doing I believe they deserve it. Or maybe they have no purpose to clean their room or to study these things. You know, if it's not relevant to them, they're probably not and

so you know what to address. Maybe they're just we have to work on optimizing their energy because you don't have energy. You do it right, Yes, this whole idea. You take your nouns in your life and turn them into verbs. You don't have focus. People are thinking, that's my problemt to I'm watching this don't have focus. But you don't have focus, you do it. There's a process for focusing. You don't have a memory. There's a process of encoding, storing, and retrieving. You know, you don't even

have energy. There's a process for generating energy. And as their friend and Burchard talks a lot about, you know a lot that you know, you generate these kind of energy and they're also it can be the methods. Sometimes it's it's simply learning better tools also as well, so you could use it with your friends. You can work with your team. And this works micro and it also works macro. This works at a cultural level, it works at the level of community, works at the level of

your country. There's a set mindset about, you know what, maybe around certain issues right now it's really hard to create change or it becoming more limitless, you know, based on certain mindset around maybe fairness and quality whatever happens to be. Or maybe these people and maybe they don't have purpose, you know, or maybe they're be incentivized to keep things in a certain way, or maybe they lack energy or resources, or maybe they're using old methods for

leadership or making change. Right, So it can happen micro or macro. That's unbelievable. Yeah, I love that. I love the framework even more hearing it from you. It's just I'm trying to think of so many areas in my life from like, okay, which one am I struggling with? Right? Like which which one is it? Or we haven't got

it right or we haven't figured it out. And I think if everyone just took a few moments today to reflect on that one area of their life that they want to work on and identify it with that process, when we start to do it, you know who we're around, We always have known that. Like who we're around is such a big deal. Our friends, our family, our community, Like these things have a huge impact on us, right,

Like negativity is contagious, like so much. So many people will say that they feel drained by the people around them or their family, or that when they share a new, big idea with someone that they love, they're often met with resistance. Like I hear this so often. And when you think about limits, you think about what you said, like you didn't you weren't born with limits, you had limits placed on you. But we either get to choose

to accept or reject those limits. But it's really hard, and it's really hard for people to reject a limit placed on them by someone they love and trust. Walk us through that a little bit, like, let's think out loud about that. Like when someone has their mother or their father or someone they really respect place a limit on them, right, you want that person to root for

you. You You want that person for you to win. Yeah, we all need people to encourage us, to be able to challenge us, to be able to cheer, lead, for us to believe in us. And if we haven't found that person yet, then you know, my advice would be to be that person. Be that person for somebody else, especially be that person for yourself. Right. You know we we talked about last time in this conversation the difference between a thermostat and a thermometer, a thermometer on the wall,

just it's only function that reacts to the environment. And sometimes we as humans, we react to the economy, we react to politics, we react how people treat us, react to the weather. But we know through studies done on people who are most successful at least at least the ones that are happiest and most fulfilled, they don't react as much as they respond. Right, they're a thermostat. A

thermostat doesn't react to the environment. It gages and knows the temperature in this room, but it also what It sets a temperature and there in the environment reacts to it. So it's that agency, you know. Last time, you and I talked about some of the people that I get to be able to spend time within Coach and when I learned from those people, and one of them I mentioned was stan Lee. And it wasn't just his playfulness, you know, and his passion for what he did. It

was also responsibility, you know. I remember I picked him up for dinner one day evening and I asked him, like, I need to know this because I remember I couldn't read. I tell myself how to read by reading comic books. I tell him that whole story because it brought the words to life. But I said, who's your favorite? Who's your favorite? And he says, Jim, my favorite is iron Man.

And he says, Jim, who's your favorite? And he had the Spider Man tie and I was like Spider Man And he says, without a pause in his iconic voice, with great power comes great responsibility, right, And truthfully, I reverse a lot of things I see, I read, I hear maybe because of my brain injuries as a child, and I heard something totally different I was. I say, you're right. With great power comes great responsibility, and the opposite is also true. With great responsibility comes great power.

When we take responsibility for something, we have great power to make things better, you know. And the thing is, when we make excuses or we complain it's probably all valid. We probably it's probably true, right, but it doesn't make anything better. Right, So we use a lot of our focus, our attention, our energy when it can be better well spent, because we can't be upset by the results we didn't

get from the work we didn't do right. And so when we take personal responsibility, we have the power to make things better. And I would say part of responsibility is is our peer group certainly affects things. I always say, watch it affects w our words, right, the words we started adopting the same language patterns as people around us, started using the same phrases, the a our actions, We start doing the same behaviors as people around us also as well, good and bad what we eat. So it's

not just our neurological networks. It's our social networks, right, And who we spend time with is who we become. We start believing their same standards, and they're all their expectations for us. Right. The Tea and Watch is we start mirroring the thoughts of the people around us. We start thinking the same way about ourselves as other people think about us. And the c is a big one.

It's our character. Right. We know that people if they have breaks in integrity and the around people that are disingenuous, you know that they're more likely to pursue, you know, and have that same kind of standard. I saw recently a quote that said integrity is measured by the distance between someone's lips and their life, and I just like, wow, that's a nice cut. Yes, all truth bumps, but yeah, it's the character. And then finally the h and Watch

our habits. We start adopting the same routines and the habits of the pole that we spend time with. So we have to stand guard to the doors of our mind, right, and we have these mirror neurons that's constantly in our nervous system. They are constantly imitating the people around us, and so we can love our family and we can love our friends, but when our lives are fueled by the expectations and beliefs and opinions of other people, then we're going to run out of gas, right, good, bad,

and and different. Part of it is owning that agency, saying that yeah, it's yes, it's hard, you know, when people don't believe in you, and like that. That's I was very blessed. I think, you know, I won the lottery when it came to my parents. They immigrated here. They're not the most spiritual, They've never had a green juice, you know, they don't do yoga, they're not the most health conscious or you know, read personal development books. But

they're just there's really good people. They do what they they're hard working, they're very very kind, you know. So I feel like everything that's good that's come out of you know, that I've ever done is a credit to them. Anything that's fall short, you know, it's all on me,

you know. So I very I'm very blessed. And it's not so much about the resources you have, because we didn't have any education, we don't have any money, and we live in the back of a laundry map that my mom, whom we worked at, didn't have any connections or network or anything you know, back then, And so I would say that if there's somebody else that has survived and even thrived, you know, those game kind of situations, that I do believe that genius in any of its form,

And I'll talk about IQ that it's built that and it's not born, it's built around that. We shouldn't be shrinking our lives and our dreams to meet this current situation. Instead, don't downgrade your dreams to meet this current situation. What if we upgraded our mindset and what if we upgraded our motivation. What if we upgraded the methods we're using to be able to meet our destiny. Jim, that's so powerful.

I mean that one statement, the reframe I've had that I'm a big Marvel fan, as you know, and yeah, to hear that reframe of that statement, with great responsibility comes great power. That's a universal principle. It's almost like, if you think about it, that when you take on a great responsibility, everything in the universe conspires to help you with it. And so the amount of help you get is about how much healing you're trying to bring

and that's really beautiful and powerful. I mean, that's going to stay with me for a long time. That's a really, really special insight. And I want to make sure that everyone goes out and grabs a copy if you don't already of Limitless by Jim Quick. The three M model is in this book and broken down step by step as you saw and her. Jim is a highly systematic, logical thinker, and so if you want really practical key advice on all of these ideas and insights, to make

sure you go and grab a copy of this book. Jim, I want to thank you for teaching us all how to be limitless today and break through our limitations. I want to thank you for doing it in your own life. Thank your parents too for doing what they did. That was beautiful to hear that. And I'm always here to support and be right with you whatever you're doing. So thank you so much, and yeah, I appreciate it, and

thank you to your entire community. You know, I believe the world right now, so many people feel like they're dimming themselves their message to be able to because they don't want their light to shine in other people's eyes and I feel like we need to be doing the opposite now more than ever. You know, we need a better, brighter world, and I think that there's a version of ourselves and our family is our purpose, everything that's patiently waiting and the goal as we show up every single

day until we're introduced. Well said, Well said Jim. Quick, everyone make sure that you tag me and Jim on Instagram, on Twitter, on TikTok, whatever platform you're using. Let us know what you learned, what you took away, what you've gained from this conversation. We're going to be back next week, of course, with another incredible episode of On Purpose. Thank you for all your love. Makes sure you subscribe, and Jim, thank you so much again for joining us. It's been an honor.

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