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Set Hey, everyone, welcome back to on Purpose, the number one place that you come to listen, learn and grow. Today's guest is one of your favorites, someone that I love to sit down with, a dear friend of mine who we always seem to connect on a frequency and vibration level like no other. I know you're going to be excited because you've been asking for him to come
back on the show. Our guest today is ed my Let, a highly successful entrepreneur who's blended his unique experiences with a diverse set of practical strategies that have made him one of the most sore after inspirational speakers in the world today. Please welcome to the show, my dear friend ed my Ed.
I love you brother. Great to be with you. I last saw you in Dubai well speaking, so it's nice to be on us ur so fun.
You were so kind because my card in shop at the airport and me and Edie were speaking of the same event. We were staying at the same hotel because he was organized, and so I said there and I was like, do you mind if I just sit in your car? And you were so kind, ready to jump it.
I get to have a half an hour with Jay Shetty, Are you crazy? I'm going to take that time anytime I can do it.
I loved it, man. I was so glad we bumped into each other because I feel like every time we're together, our hearts just open up greed, There's so much trust, there's so much love. So thank you for coming back. Like I said, the last episode we did together crushed people loved it. You and I wanted to start with like, you know, and I know I'm asking you this because I know you'll give me a genuine, honest answer. But Ed,
You're so confident, You're so strong, you're powerful. But at the same time, I know that you are going for your own healing journey, your own struggles, your own challenges, like what what have you been working on inside?
Wow? What a great question. Thank you for that. I have to say I told you off camera. I know if I don't say this, I won't feel right. You have the most unique combination of confidence and humility about anybody I've ever met. Those are people I love the most. I love being around confident people, but they have these high doses of humility, which keeps them humble. It causes them to still want to learn and grow. They don't think they know everything. Those people last the longest in
business and in any endeavor. Same time, if somebody doesn't have a lot of confidence, you feel like you're carrying those folks your friends through life all the time. So in my case, you know, I grew up as a son of an alcoholic, and I think to some extent there's these this wiring that happens when you're a child, and so some of the wiring I've recently discovered. I had Bert Kreischer, the comedian, on my podcast, and it sort of came out of me when he was there.
Bert's a very well known drinker, and it's almost a joke about how much that he drinks. And I asked him, I said, Bert, what kind of a husband or father do you think you are? And he said, I think I'm a ten out of ten. And I think he is. And I told him, I said, you know, I just discovered something about myself brother, and it was that my dad's drinking. It wasn't just that I was worried, you know, is he going to get in a fight, is he going to be mean? Or mom and dad in a disagreement.
I said, what happened. Was I worried about my dad? Is he going to come home tonight? Is he safe? Is he in danger? And that wired into me as a little boy, the neurology the pattern of worry and fear. And so as I've gotten to be an older, grown man, I've uncovered that the last year or two, I have a pattern where I have a tendency my emotional home, so to speak, as I go back to worry and fear, and I don't want to I don't want to live that way, and so I've been working on unwiring that.
That's the thing I've been working most on my healing journey is you know, it's okay, Everything's going to be okay. I'm blessed, I'm favored. And it's undoing that wiring of worry and fear. Because we all have an emotional home. We all have three or four emotions that no matter what happens in a given week or month, we're going to get it. So if your emotional home is anger or worry or fear of frustration, no matter what the external conditions are, you're going to find a way to
get your hitt of it. It's your home Conversely, if your emotional home is peace or equanimity or bliss or ecstasy, passion, focus, you'll find a way on a regular basis to get that emotion that you're familiar with, because we're wired for it in our bodies and our minds to be familiar with those emotions. So I just chose, what are the emotions I want? Don't want to live and worry and fear even though my external life is so great, I still have a tendency to worry and live fearfully. Or
how do I want to live? I want to live in peace, I want some equanimity, I want blessed in my life. And so I've been rewiring that, and it's something I've been really really excited about and proud of that I've done that work at you know, at fifty years old, fifty two now it's been happening.
Oh well, I'm so glad I asked that question already. I'm late because I think you're so right. I think everyone who's listening will be able to relate to what they're wiring is from childhood, where do we go? What's our emotional home as you just called it, correct, where do we disappear to And it's really interesting because I always talk about my childhood similarly being quite chaotic and quite intense. But my mother's love was like this protective shield.
You've told me that that.
Really helped me. And now when I'm listening to you, I'm actually thinking what I want, and I think what we're both trying to develop is peace in the storm. Amen, it's equanimity in the imbalance.
That's correct, right, And in my case, not to create the storm all the time.
No, no, no, But in all.
Honesty, a few things I discovered a few years ago. I used to brag a lot. I am unbelievable under stress. I operate amazingly under chaos, which is true because I'm so familiar with it. But what I found out about myself was, to some extent I created a lot of it. In other words, I wasn't comfortable in my life. Maybe people can relate to this if they really take a look at themselves. I wasn't comfortable when things weren't a little bit chaotic. Because in life, we move towards really
what we're most familiar with. We keep moving back to the familiar. That's why some people will date the completely same person in a different body. You and I have talked about with your amazing work, right because we move towards what we're familiar with. So I it's had a tennessee in my life to create a lot of stress and chaos because I operated so well in it. It was a familiar state to be in, even though it
didn't serve me. And so a lot of that work I've done in healing and digging deep in my life it served me. Not just in healing, it's made me a better businessman, It's made me a better father and often cases a better friend because I'm not constantly creating this stress and chaos around the people that I love the most.
How do you stop creating stress and droma? Well, one is why do we do it?
And how do we do it? Because we're familiar and we wire these things in our bodies and so this is really technical stuff. But I anchored the good states. And so what happened was is that usually we're wiring happens is in a highly emotional state. We anchor it in our bodies physically, that's what we do. And so the way out of that is to begin to anchor
the great states so I take advantage of great states. So, for example, just a few weeks ago, my daughter was home from college and we took a walk on the beach and it was just this blissful experiences me and the you know, one of the people I love the most in the world, and I'm feeling this great peace and love from my daughters. We're walking and I anchored it. I literally anchored it in my body. I literally snapped my fingers as I went and I anchored that state.
And so or when I'm walking on stage, I'm about to, you know, have to speak, and that adrenaline hits me, and that euphoria, the spirit, the energy hits me. I'll anchor that state physically. And so what happens is I'm rewiring myself physically. For example, like I pray on my knees every night, and so I've been doing that for a number of years. I feel great peace when I pray. What's ironic about it is not only is the prayer now peaceful, but the actual physical move of getting on
my knees triggers that state. So this is a very detailed answer, but I've rewired. Okay, So I've rewired. So everybody when you're in that blissful state. Everyone's ever heard a song from a different time and it just triggers a state. It's not the words and the music, it's what was going on in that moment. You've anchored it in your body. So when I'm in a good state, a great state, I take advantage of it. I don't
let it pass. I anchored in my body, and I've sort of rewired myself so that when these ones that I don't want come along, I have a neurology. I can change out of that move and do something physical and it's simple. It's not complicated to be tugging your ear, feeling something on your shirt, something you do on your knees. So I've created like triggers in my life to put me back in that state, and over time that's become my wiring now, not the old one. This is more
familiar to me than the old one. Tendency now is to move towards the familiar state of bliss of joy. I'd say seventy five eighty percent of the time now that's where I live, whereas before ninety five percent of the time I live the other way.
I love that advice, and please be as technical and as detailed as you like, because you spark so much for me, I was thinking that, actually the truth is everyone already has subconscious anchors that we're not choosing. And so an example is when I'm working with a client, often they'll say to me, the moment their head hits the pillow, all of their anxiety goes crazy. What is that. It's an anchored state.
It's actually your head hitting the pillow exactly exactly right.
The emotion is creating a sense of breathlessness, maybe tight chestedness, mental anxiety. And until you retrain that act of I'm going to let my head hit the pillow, I'm going to experience piece, maybe going to play a sound. Maybe I'm going to feel a certain temperature, Maybe I need to do some breath work, like until you reanchor that state, like you're saying, your head hitting the pillow will never change no matter what you do.
No matter what you do external, as long as the external conditions of your life continually dictate how you feel, you're an out of control human being. So at some point you have to do things internally that change how you feel. Because the quality of our life well, you know, this is the quality of our emotions, that's the caliber of our life. So I remember a long time ago. I'll tell you a quick story. I had not made
a money for a long time as a businessman. I finally make some money, finally, right, But my emotional home was fear. And by the way, the other side oftentimes of fear can manifest itself as anger, shows up as anger. But when you see an angry person, you're seeing a scared person. And so I was a worrier and a fearful person. Anyway, I was building my first dream home and on the way over there, an appointment had canceled or something, and I was duh. And then the contractor
had messed something up. We've all had that in a moment. And I walk into this mansion I'm building, and I'm mad and I'm stressed, and I'm angry, and ooh, where's the contractor? And I look into the kitchen and there's five men, and there are five or six men in there. All men had come from Mexico. And these men had left their families, and the reason they had come there was to send money home to their families and work.
And they're in there and they were doing work. They loved that they were great at working on my mansion. And I watched them for a minute. I stood and watched them, and they had their mariachi music playing, and they were laughing and joking and blissful and also doing work they cared about that mattered, that they were great at. And in that moment, I stepped back, and I almost out of my body. I went, if life is the quality of your emotions, They're kicking my tail. They're winning
it life, and I'm losing. I have all these things to be grateful for around me, but my home that I keep going back to is fear, anger, and worry. These guys who had to leave their families to come to another country just to support them, Imagine how difficult their life was there. They had to leave their country and their children to come here to work to support their families. And they're joyous and blissful and doing work
that matters to them and that they're great at. And so I decided, it's you don't want the mansion you want, how you think it'll make you feel. You don't want the relationship you want how you think it'll make you feel. You don't want to be fit and sexy and jacked. You want how you think it'll make you feel. So what if I could get the emotions. If I could have these emotions, maybe getting the things I want would
be that much easier. And so I focus. Now. Everyone has goals of their physical things they want, but for me, a lot of my outcomes now are emotionally driven because I think if I'm in the right emotional state, I can produce the physical things I want.
Yeah, you make better decisions, right, You're more clear. Your vision makes sense. I'd completely agree with you. It's like, and I think a lot of us feel like the more we do, the more we take on, the more amount of things we do, the more likely we're going to be successful. And I wanted to talk to you about this in terms of your schedule because I know.
That that's like you and I have talked about it.
Yeah, like, walk me through your schedule. What does it look like right now?
It's busy. But I have learned you and I just were talking about this. I have learned to say no, and I've learned this is just recent. I am a people pleaser, and so a lot of times because I am you know I have a deep voice, and maybe I look a particular way, you wouldn't know that inside is this person. I just want to please people and make them happy because of my child that if my dad was in a good mood, maybe you wouldn't drink that day. If I brought home an A on my
report card, then he'd show me love. So I've I conflated in my life brother love with significance, and I thought when I would do something significant, it felt like love. But they're two different things. Most people are that way as well. If I can just perform, if I can just do something, people will love me. So I've changed that and in my schedule, so I have learned to do things that I love, that make me feel good, that contribute. My schedule's busy, though, I mean I'm up
very early in the morning most of mornings. I've got a routine that I do. I travel quite a bit, just like you do. But what I've really learned to do is to choose things in my life that both are productive, but that also give me a sense of contribution and joy, not just productive anymore. So I've said no to things. Recently, there's a TV show that I'm doing right now. Another one came up, and I've always really wanted to do this particular show. It doesn't serve
my current dream. So what I do as I check in and I ask myself, I audit, is that still my dream? Is that still what I want? There's this great clip on social media going around right now with Jim Carrey. I don't know if you've seen this, but I've watched it and I've sent it to so many of our friends. I thought I sent it to you. Maybe I didn't. And he says something in this clip. I'll paraphrase it, I'll mess it up, but he basically says in this clip he says, I'm going to say
something you've never heard an actor say before. And an interview say what's that? And Carrie says, I've had enough. I've done enough. I've made enough movies, I've had enough success, I've won enough awards, and now I want to just do things that bring me peace and joy. That's a courageous choice in life. And so what he did is he audited, is this still my dream? And I think a lot of times in life, we just have this
dream that was given to us by our parents. Or our friends, or there's an expectation and we're chasing a dream that was maybe never ours or no longer is. And so now I really audit that I audit the fact of whether or not this is something that is still my dream? Is it consistent with where I want to go now? But I'm busy, you know, I'm twelve fourteen hours a day. So my physiology matters, my hydration matters,
my juney water matters. All these things matter to me in my life so that I'm feeding my soul and my spirit so that I am my best when I come do a I show like yes today.
If anyone doesn't know, Edward's just on stage with our good friend Brendan Boushard in La. It came straight.
Into the studio here, that's right.
And you always this energy like you have the ability. I think I talk a lot about the difference between time management and energy management. And you're someone that whenever I'm with you, you're always highly energetic. For you, You're always you know, there's that I feel that I feel your spirit coming through yourself.
Well, I'm conscious, Jade, like you are. I'm conscious of something I think most people are oblivious to And here's what it is. You are always making people feel something. Most people aren't aware of this. No matter what, you're making them feel something. It could be. They could feel important and needed and loved. They could feel slighted and invisible. They could feel that you're demeaning to them, but you're making them feel something. So I try to really focus
on my intentions. When I met Wayne Dyer when I was very young. At that time, he was writing a book, What a Beautiful Man.
I think people don't know me read ye special.
Well, I got to tell you, you remind me a lot of Wayne, a lot, I mean. And he was a dear, dear friend. Your spirit is very similar and uh and I don't know a lot of people that remind me of Wayne, but you do. And he was so good to me. But when I met him, it's a funny story. It's a long time ago, but I was I had luckily I work out so I'd won my first trip ever to Hawaii with the company I
was at. And I got up in the morning before the sun was up, because that's my routine, beat the sun up, and I ran on the beach and as I'm running, this man's coming towards me. I could see a bald guy, sweaty, hairy back. I'm like, I don't want to bump into this guy. And as he gets closer, I go, oh, my gosh, that's Wayne Dyre. It was in Maui and he gets past me. We're both were in ony walkman, that's how old we all both are.
And I pull my walk out of it. You're dating yourself now and I go, doctor Dyer, you change my life, and don't you love when someone says that to you. To this day, I remember saying that to him, and he takes his hey out a deep voice like me, takes his headphones off, running and he goes I highly doubt that. He goes, I bet you changed your life,
But how did I help you? And he stops the run jay and he walks over to me and I end up sitting on the beach for an hour and a half watching the sun come up with Wayne Dyer and at the end of the conversation he says to me, he says, ed, I think you're going to change the world now. At that time, I thought I was probably
the only person he ever said that too. In hindsight, he probably said that too much, But he said, and it's not because of your amazing brain or you have a unique ability to communicate ed. But that's not why he said, you're a good man. Listen to this what he said, bro, He goes, you're a good man, he goes, you have great intentions, and he goes, if we never talk again, and we ended up talking the rest of
his life. He said, I you to always link your confidence to your intentions, not your abilities, because you'll be chasing that tale all your life. In so, if he goes, there's a great He was writing a book at the time called The Power of Intention. But I didn't know that when I look for confidence, like before this interview or that speech I just gave, or if for anybody listening to going into a sales call or a meeting or a first date, your confidence isn't your beauty or
your ability, it's your intent. And so I always that's one thing I know to be true about me. I don't always believe in my ability or my talent. That's fleeting or what happens when a speech goes bad, or a meeting goes bad, or a company goes bad. I
don't want to predicate my confidence on that. I predicate it on my intentions, and I'll remind myself because I actually believe I'm a good person, and I don't think enough people give themselves credit for being good and kind and that they give people grace and they want to contribute and help. You should generate so much confidence from that intent to serve that you ought to walk into a room and own it. Not because you're arrogant or
you're amazing, but because your intentions are so good. It's a shell of confidence. I hack. The confidence nobody talks about is intention, and I learned that most from Wayane. And so it's why I can bring an energy to something because I'm pretty confident. And that confident is that I'm going to say something amazing. It's that my intent is to serve. And so you've vibrated a high frequency.
Yeah, this is why we get along. This is I can relate completely. I've always said whenever anyone asked me what my morning routine is, the number one part of my morning routine, apart from the meditation, workout, all that stuff is refining and purifying my intention. I've always said that because I feel like your intention can either be a seed or a weed. Wow, and a seed is growing, and a weed when it starts to grow, it looks
the same thing as a seed. But my teachers would always tell us they're like a weed will strangle the seed, like a weed will completely destroy a great plant because of its intention.
What do you do? I'm curious. That's so good, that's really good. What do you do with the weeds in your life when they begin to grow around you as you have a strategy for that?
Yeah, I find that there's almost a mental plucking an extraction process, and it starts with an awareness of why am I making this decision or what is driving me towards this? And if the intention is not love, service, joy, growth, then chances are if it's ego, revenge, jealousy, envy, greed,
if it's all those, I know those are weeds. But that requires me to sit still and sit quietly in order to really be honest with myself when it's uncomfortable to say, oh, Jay, you're just doing that because you're envious, and being able to say that to myself and not hate myself for that, but to realize it's just a weed in a garden. If you see a weed in your garden and you start hating the whole garden. That doesn't make any sense. You just go and pluck that
weed out. And so I feel for me it requires that awareness, that stillness and an extraction that's really good and it's and I think that's partly what probably why I think we get along so well because of that intention. But I want to ask you, how do you are good develop and build and help people choose an intention that lives off the page, Because I think we're all used to now, like my intention today is right, but
that's not what we're talking about. How does your intention come off the page and come into your day.
It's a great question. I tell them all. You validate your intention with your action, So I like to. I call it validating it, and so I like to give myself evidence that it's true. I'll give you an example one of the things right now that I'm really working on in my life. And it's not easy for me because I've lived another way. I love to just share the things that are negative about me because I think it gives people hope. If this guy is screwed up as he is, can win. Maybe I got some hope.
And one of the things that I've lived with a lot in my life is I think I have judged people too much and not extended enough grace. But the last ten years of my life, man, I'm really proud of myself. I've extended grace to people. I feel better about me. Brother, when I extend grace to another person, I just feel good about me, particularly maybe when they don't deserve it in the moment. Give you an example, Give you a quick story.
The stories are great. You've been coming. I love.
About three weeks ago, my kids were home for the holidays, and so we were at dinner, and this is treasured time with my kids because they're both away at college. And so we walk into a restaurant, a great restaurant, not like an amazing place, but a good restaurant. We walk in and from the lobby, I can hear these kids screaming. And I'm an introvert, so I like quiet meals. I like to actually be able to hear the people I'm talking with. I like quiet restaurants. This was normally
very quiet places where I picked it. This night, it was not quiet in there, and I could hear these children screaming. And you know when you're a parent like I am. Sometimes you're like, what is why don't you I would never let my kids act like that. There's
easy to judge, and I didn't. So anyway, we walk into this restaurant and guess who we sit next to the table I could hear from the lobby there's five kids at this table with two parents, and the kids yelling and screaming, and one of them is running a circle ound there. One of them through some food, and the mother had kind of had her head down the whole time, and she really my tendency would be to
judge that family. This is an extreme story, but it gives you an example of why I work on them validating. So it's good enough to say my intention is to get people grace, but I need to validate it. And so my kids were kind of looking at me because they know their dad, you know, and I went, I'm going to extend grace to that family right now. And I actually told my family, I said, you guys, Okay, it's gonna sound crazy, can we just say a quick
prayer for them over there? They're like very close to us. And the rest of the restaurant had noticed them too, and so I said, they say a quick prayer, and they go Max say the prayer, I say to my son, So my son says a quick blessing for that family, and then my daughter says, Daddy, let's buy them dinner. I'm like, now you're pushing me. But okay, okay, we'll get their dinner too, but we're not going to tell them anyway, So we extended grace, and the entire meal
they were noisy and chaotic. Anyway, the end of the meal they left before we did. And so they left, and Nick got very quiet in there and like, ah, but the whole time I had extended grace, I didn't judge them, which would be a tendency I would normally maybe do in my past, but now I'm validating this
new intention of mine. Anyway, we pay the bill and we leave, and two days later, I'm hitting a couple of golf balls at the golf course and the server that night was hitting balls next to me, and he saw, mister Milett, that was so kind to you to buy the meal for that night for that family in light of the funeral. And I said, what, he goes that family that night, he goes, you know, they had come there to celebrate. They had just left the funeral of
their grandmother. I said, you're kidding me, and he said no, and the grandmother would come in here with them. They're a very close family. The kids don't normally behave like that, and the mother that night was so down. It's her mom. The kids are extra close to her because their husband when he was deployed in Iraq, the grandmother lived with them and sort of raised them. And so they had just left the funeral that night and were having the dinner and I went there, you go, you never know
what someone's carrying. You don't know the burden they're carrying, and hurt people, hurt people, people in pain, tip will create pain for other people. And I was like, what a blessing that I've got to this point in my life that I do extend grace even when it doesn't seem like somebody deserves it because you don't know what they're carrying. So I validated that intention with my behavior, and thank god I did not knowing what they were
going through. So it's a really beautiful culmination of the story that you just don't know what someone's carrying, extend grace, give people kindness, do everything you can not to judge.
Yeah, Wow, that's powerful. Man's Yeah, that's crazy, but it's and sometimes we don't always get the reward of that loose true. But we have to recognize, as we know in our own lives that we know we're always going through something. We know our friends are going through something, our family is going through something. Everyone on your team is going through something. How we can't extend that is crazy.
But I want to ask you something. There's a lot of people who I know will be listening, and I know that our community and our audience are good hearted, loving, wanting to be better people. We all want to improve, as do I. I've got so much more healing left for you, and I know how community does. But they often feel like even though they lead with love, everyone around them is causing them pain, is negative, is toxic.
They don't feel that around them, and they almost get exhausted trying to be this bigger, graceful kind of person. And I'm sure you felt that. I know you're the right person asked this question too. What do you do when you feel everyone around you is bringing you toxicity, negativity and poor energy? How do you operate?
I reduce proximity to them in those moments. And sometimes they are the weeds that needed to be weeded out of your garden. That's the most difficult decision. But sometimes it's not weeding them out, it's reducing proximity. And then I've created some havens that I can go to to sort of escape that for a few minutes. And so
some of those are actually people. I've got two or three people in my life that when these other people are losing it and acting in a toxic way, or acting out or antagonistic towards me or other people, I've got another person or two that I can go to that shifts my state. That is my rock. That is someone that I can express myself to. For some people that might be therapy, but in my case, I've got two or three just great friends that I can go to.
They set me straight, They give me, they give me perspective. Yes, what great friends give me is they give me perspective. This will pass. They're going through something. Rise above this. And see, when some people walk into a room, they adapt to the energy in the room. Greatness is walking into a room and shifting the energy. And so I believe I'm built for those moments that over time, I'm built to shift the energy in the room, shift it.
And the way that you do it is, to me, it's just really speaking truth to people and sometimes in a kind way, speaking truth to them about their behavior and their conduct and letting them know that you're better than this. You are better than the way you're conducting yourself. You're better than this. And here's why I do that. Truth. I think vibrates at the highest frequency, and so if you want to influence somebody, you have to be vibrating
at a high frequency. That's telling someone the truth. In the moment. You can tell the truth to somebody in a kind and gentle and generous way. But when you don't address someone's behavior that's toxic towards you, you're not operating in truth. And what happens is you reduce your own vibrational frequency and they can get worse. So the way you rise above and shift the energy in the room is actually by operating in truth with somebody saying, look, I love you, I believe in you, and that's why
I'm going to tell you the truth right now. And here's the truth. This thing you're doing right now, this way you're handling yourself is so much so beneath who you really are. You're cable of so much greater. And I want you to know I love you and believe in you enough that I'm going to share with you the truth. And by the way, there comes these intentions too. If someone if you've sown enough seeds into someone, they know your intention. I think you can challenge people. I
think great people are good at challenging other people. And the only way that you can challenge somebody is they have to know you love and believe in them first. Like even in your companies, you're just listen, Jay's life is just exploding. Write everything about that he's got going. So a lot of people depend on you, a lot of people work with you, and you've got to be able to challenge them to raise their standard. You can't do that first. You have to make deposits into people
before you can make withdrawals. Because anytime you're challenging someone is saying I need you to step up. That's a form of a withdrawal. It just is you have to have made the deposits in someone of belief and love first, and then if you operate in truth, man, your frequency is vibrating real high. You can shift an environment and shift to the energy.
Oh, I love that. I love that. I love that. And it's and it's not a technique, No, it's it's real.
It's real.
Like it's not like I always find like, it's not like you'd be nice to someone so you can ask for something back, And that's the way you're saying it. It doesn't come that way. And I I love that idea of raising and shifting frequency, and I actually want to give more people the encouragement and courage to be able to do that, because I think we all do feel I can't shift it, I can't do anything. I'm not in control.
My reminder would be truth is what shifts the room, and when you come from a loving place and a truth telling place. Here's the other thing. I said this
to you one other time. I don't know if I was on the show or not, but I think a lot of people feel inadequate about that, like I'm not qualified, there's nothing great about me, like I've never I've not achieved something or or The other thing they do is they hold their sins or mistakes of their life as like weapons against themselves, like, you don't know about my divorce. You don't know that I did this thing I'm not proud of. You don't know I had this business failure
or I didn't you know. I've gained some weight and so I made a commitment to get fit. And I'm not anymore. I'm not qualified to shift the energy or change other people. And one of the best examples of that ever I've shared this with you before is my dad. When my dad got sober, it changed our entire family's life. I mean, it just changed everything. That one decision my
dad made. And after I wrote my book and after my dad passed away, I woke up one night it was like three AM, and I was crying and kind of startled my wife and she's like, what's going on, Babe? I said, Babe, I just realized something here. I am fifty two years old. My dad had been sober for thirty five years. That's never dawned on me. I went, someone helped my dad. I've told you this before, and she goes, what, honey, I said, someone helped dad, and
that person changed my entire life. That act of helping one person, the ripple effect is I'm his son, and I've been blessed to reach millions of people around the world. That person doesn't know that helping my dad change millions of lives, And she goes, my gosh, that's incredible. I said, that's not the most incredible thing. The most incredible thing is what qualified that man to help my dad, who I didn't know who he was at the time. She says, I don't know. I said, not how perfect he was,
not how stupendous, not his amazing achievements. What qualified him to help my dad was that he was also an alcoholic at one time, he was a drug addict, He lied, he lived in the shadows. And so actually, in life, we're most qualified to help the person we used to be yes, And so in life, it's not that you're better than these people. It's that you can help people
that used to be like you. That you used to operate in a way that didn't serve you, Maybe you behaved in a way that wasn't conducive with your character. Because of that, you're qualified to help people that are operating that way. So you're immensely qualified in life to shift other people. If you're willing to be vulnerable and reveal your imperfect you don't connect with anybody, be going I'm amazing, like I imagine the podcasting. Like, brother, get
honest with you. I have no problems. There's no healing left. I'm just kicking butt everywhere I go. And you're like, well me too, man, We're just touring the globe and dubaye together. You know that's not the truth. The truth is the way you connect is by going, here's all the things on that art.
This is what we did in that guy, just what we did in.
The car with each other. Right, So like that, you're revealing your imperfections. That connects you with people, and just for everybody to remember, you were born to do something great with your life, and when you were a little boy or a little girl, there was probably one person who made you feel that way, and you ought to give yourself the gifts right now of who is that person? When you're a little girl or a little boy, they made you feel special, and there's probably only one, maybe two.
Maybe it was your parents, or your grandmother or a grandfather, a coach, a religious figure. There's someone that was in your life and that you felt something about you because of the way they looked at you or spoke to you. And the amazing thing about that is they were right about you. They were right for me. It was my Papa, my dad's dad. I'm named after him, and used to drive he pick me up on Sundays. We'd go get donuts Jade to get for my cousins before church, and
he'd drive me. I'd look up at Big Papa. Everyone when you think about that person, you'll get emotional for you at your mom right, and he would look down at me and he'd go, Eddie, you're my favorite. He had all these great kids. You're my favorite. You're amazing. You're gonna do something great with your life. You're the special I go. I am, Big Papa, I am. And this little boy could feel his belief and his love. He was the only person who ever treated me that way.
The rest of the world's never treated me that way, but Big Papa did. And then when other grandkids were born. I remember my cousin Peter was born in Jay you'll laugh at this, and he called me. He goes, hey, your cousin Peter was born today. He's amazing, six pounds seven ounces. He's got our blue eyes. Eddie and I go, oh, that's awesome, Big Papa.
And he go, but you're my favorite.
You're my favorite, and all my life I've carried that feeling from Big Papa with me. And the truth is, if you've had that person in your life, they were right about you. Yes, you're supposed to do something great with your life. And the reason it makes you emotional when you think about it now is because it's true and truth vibrates at the highest frequency. So if you're listening to this or watching it, it's like, have that reminder, give yourself the gift. Maybe your Big Papa's gone now
and not even hear anymore. Honor them with who you become. Honor them with the life you build, Honor them with the choices you make. And take that belief. Imagine what God believes in you. If that person believes in you, take that belief and use it as fuel in your life to have some strength and confidence to shift other people's lives. And that's for me. That was Big Papa.
Yeah, I know you. I was going back with you when you were saying it. And there's something known as a loving kindness meditation. It's very popular in Buddhism in Hinduism, there's a similar practice and I led this meditation when I was on tour with every audience across the whole world. And what you have to do in this meditation is you have to close your eyes and you have to allow yourself to reexperience a moment you felt the most love. For some people, it's their wedding day. For some people
it's their car with their grandpa. For some person it's their mother, whatever it may be. And you have to relive it, feel it through the five things you can see, the four things you can touch, the three things you can hear, the two things you can smell, and the one thing you can really immerse yourself in it and then feel it in your heart and then feel it
cascade from your heart all across your body. And then if you try and give it out to your friends and family, to the stranger at the restaurant, to the rest of the world. It's so possible because you're feeling as you're saying, that will never run out man your memory of your grandpa saying that to you, that will
never ever expire. It will always be there. And the amount that can be recycled into giving love to others and to feeling loved always, Whereas what we do is we try and set for the next person to love us. We're setting for that next person to say something amazing about us, and with that you're always running out because it comes once and it goes, and it comes and it goes. Whereas that one person you're so right, that loved you gay.
This is an all time great conversation, right, it's because we just went I think there's a validity to what you just said to a true that's just so profound. It's very difficult in life to transfer to somebody that which you're not experiencing. So in order to transfer true love and true belief in somebody, you have to be experiencing it so that you can give it to somebody. And so given yourself that gift allows you to give
it an abundance to other people. Ya, that's really good, that's awesome meditation.
I think one of the reasons again, while we get along, but why we're having this conversation is that we both believe in this paradox, so we're both talking about currently at the beginning of this conversation have talked about very like spiritual emotional universal ideas of existence, but at the same time we're both good at getting stuff done.
Yeah, just yes, not all philosophy correct, right, And I.
Think that's something that I've always tried to do in my work, where it's like I don't want anyone in the world to just think that, oh, if I change my mindset, everything's just because I don't want to fool people and I don't want to mislead people, because I know in my life that spirituality and strategy have had to go to get that sincerity and structure have had to go together, and I find that that combination is what's allowed me to live a fulfilling and successful life
and continue to create it.
You ever made a decision unless you've taken an action to validate it, Yes, exactly, And that's the thing that you're exactly right. People that come to our events or may just hear this conversation, go, oh, I just really need to sit around and really vibrate high and think about things. No, you don't. You have to put your feet on the ground and you've got to go to work, and you've got to go The real truth is if you've made a decision, and it's real you'll validate it
with your work. You'll validate it with your effort and the choices that you make. And the truth is this, Like, here's the other thing. A lot of my confidence comes from I'll I'll be candid with you, and I know this about you. I'm going to outwork you. Here's the truth. I'm going to outwork you. One thing I learned from my dad is that, listen, a lot of my confidence
comes from the fact that I deserve to win. And I deserve to win because I'm working my tail off, and I don't think enough people give themselves the gift of just super hard work. I mean, I know your schedule, you know mine. We were talking about that. But the truth I've just this is just something I'm saying. If I don't validate with an action, it's like you said with your books, like I love you. No, that's a verb. There's an action that's taken to validate that I love you.
There's things I can do to give evidence of the fact that I love you. And so no, you can't just sit around and think about these things. You've got to get to work. You've got to implement them. And then, by the way, when you do that all. Listen. The reason I can speak with such clarity on this stuff is I've done them there. I've been in situations where this stuff has been tested and tried and true. So I'm a huge, huge advocate of work of taking the
steps necessary to do it. And I know that that's something with you. Like when I met you, I had a notion about you that wasn't accurate, which was that you were more of just this. Listen, We're just going to get quiet and meditate and empty our minds here and everything we want is going to come our way. Then I met you and I said this to you off camera. There's a fire and an intensity and a work ethic to Jay that I think would surprise most people.
You're this very unique combination of this very trankful, peaceful, loving kind being who's also wound tight and wants to win and is intense and it's going to make things happen, and wants to max out his life and isn't just sitting around waiting for it to come his way. He's going to get a lot of it. And that's one of the things I admire about you.
Absolutely, walk me through how you've translated that grace that loved, that kindness into a plan for like twenty twenty four Like how do you translate that? Like what does your day look like? What does a quota look like? You've built businesses that are successful. I want to know that part because I love that that connection that I'm trying to make here between this sincere heart with this strategic mind.
It is my perception of time, and so I have I believe you can bend and manipulate time, and so here's what that looks like. I don't buy into a twenty four hour day. That's an archaic timeframe. See, you and I live in an age where think about it, one hundred years ago, if I wanted to get something done, I'd have to write it down somewhere, stick a stamp on it, or put it on the back of a horse a few hundred years ago, and you'd get it in a month, and then you'd translate to get it
back to me in a month. Now I can text you in three seconds, but we're both going to manage time in twenty four hours. When I was in school, I had to go to a library to research something in a thing called an encyclopedia, right, and then write it all down, type it on a typewriter. If you make one key mistake, you got to redo it. Now I can google it, print it out and it's done. Yet the same timeframes are managed. And so that's insane, right, I can email, I can text, I have got all
these things on my phone. So we're still operating the same time construct as people did fifty years ago, one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago. That is insane. And so I have a huge advantage in my life that my days are mini days, and so I have three eight hour days in a day. I get twenty one days in a week, twenty one days in a week, and so my first day is six am to noon, and in that day, we've all had that day where we go, Man, I've got more by eight am done
than I've done in a week. That should be every day if you want it to be. It's your expectation of time. Here's the thing. When something is scarce, it's more valuable. Okay. So that's why a diamond is worth more than a piece of paper, because it's more scarce. When your time becomes more scarce, it becomes more valuable. And other people treat you with more value. So that's
one benefit. But my first day six am to noon, and in there, I'm trying to get in there the amount of productivity, joy, business, fitness, whatever it might be that I would get in a twenty four hour day, compressed and manipulated that time to the eight hour window. Why because of all the technology at my advantage. Now, there may be some days that's a netflix and chill day for me. I'm not saying you have to be hyper productive. That's okay that maybe on Sundays a lot
of people have that. I'll have a day like that, but it's not every day. And so the second day starts at noon and it runs all the way. Usually sometimes I even shrink them to six hours. Sometimes sometimes I'll go six am to noon, so that's a six hour window. I give myself a two hour buffer. The second day starts from noon to six pm, and in that second day, I'm trying to get the same amount of stuff I would get in in a twenty four hour day in my six to eight hour window. This year,
there's six hour days. There's six am to noon, noon to six pm, and six pm to midnight. Now I'm gonna sleep in there. I'm gonna get rest, I'm gonna have laughter, I'm gonna have faith, I'm gonna have cooling at time. But now what happens is about noon. Every day, this thing goes off in my head and I evaluate, what did I get done? What do I need to double my efforts on, what can I celebrate? What did I learn? So when an average person does it at the end of their day, I'm doing it at noon,
and it now automatically goes off. It's weird. My mind knows when noon is, and it knows when six pm is, and the same thing happens at six pm. And then I'll run it again. And so I'm getting twenty one days a week. You stack that time frame up over a year. When you get seven days, and I'm managing time this way. I compressed and bent time. I'm probably gonna win. You stack that up over a year, five years, ten years, and all of a sudden, I've had all
these more days. And here's the other thing. I just get a longer life. I'm getting multiple lives in one life, simply because I've taken control of what time looks like. So they used to be eight hour days. You asked about twenty twenty four, they're now six hour days, and so I've get more done oftentimes by ten am than most people will get done in a twenty four hour day. And here's what that here's what that looks like really quickly.
Too many people schedule one hour long meetings. If we're going to be tactical, most meetings don't need to be an hour, but we schedule them an hour because everybody's always done that. So my team knows, is this a twenty eight minute meeting? Is this a five minute meeting? Very rarely of the hour long meetings, because when you have an hour long meeting, now you're pacing yourself to
fill the hour in. But I've only got a six hour a day here, So there's a lot of twenty eight minute long meetings that other people are taking an hour to do. We're just that much more productive, that much more efficient in our time. And so that's how you actually get the day done is because this one hour concept is that you say I'll meet you at nine o'clock. I got nine to ten blocked off. Well, why most meetings don't need to be an hour long.
Most business meetings don't. Most conversations don't, and that, by the way, will give me more time. Maybe my lunch is now an hour and a half with a friend because I've bent a manipulated time in my I called mini days.
That's so I'm so happy you shaid that, because I just just even that concept of us understanding how we're using time in an archaic way and thinking about how many hours in a day in an archaic ways bananas to me. Concept and in itself is mind man.
And you can create your own version of a mini day. Maybe you're gonna have two. Maybe you're gonna break your day into two. You know me, it was eight hours and I've moved it to six, and I felt no difference. But I love that time clock. There's not enough time. Most people evaluate their goals, like really productive people, they'll do it at the end of a day, in the middle, maybe the end of a month. How did my January go? And you know this, most people it's the end of
the year. So most people's a year. Some will do it a month, really productive people, maybe the end of the day. I'm doing that three times in a twenty four hour day. Now, the breakthroughs, the learning, the course correction, the strategic moves. I make that get me back on track when I'm off track, and my bad days are only six hours long, right, so that gives me permission to shift at noon. Okay, this is a new day, get I get a do over, I get to start again.
So it's just a matter of using a time construct that fits with technology in these times.
Yeah, it's almost like saying, yeah, we're driving cars now, but it would take me a month to get tonight. Yeah, it doesn't make.
Any make any sense to a twenty four Wow.
What's been the habit? Because you also said you shifted from eight hour days to six hour days. Why, First of all, why did you do that? What was the benefit of that?
The shift for me was that it was the one hours. I'm like, why am I taking these one hour long meetings if I'm moving to twenty eight minutes? And by the way, it's awesome, and even you and I, even when we communicate, it's oftentimes it's like you and I have these beautiful quick conversations. But they by the way, there are some times with my friends I need to go deep and we need three or four five hours.
But I also I know there's a lot of times in life, Like you ever have that friend that doesn't know when the text exchange is done, you know that versu Andy, You're like, all right, man, we've got okay, it's over now, Like we're both going to go now text other people or do other things. I've just gotten a little bit better at buttoning things up, you know, so to speak to I phraseology and terminology. I was in a meeting a long time ago with Alex Rodriguez.
I'll never forget this. It was a really great meeting. And I know you know you know them as well. And so I was a meeting with Alex, and I'll never forget he said, he's a gracious duty, he's a good dude. But our meeting was supposed to end at one o'clock in the afternoon. And I remember we were in the middle of something and I was at his house and we were actually we were actually was back then.
It was actually a j Loo's house, but Alex was there anyway, And I remember at about twelve fifty eight he looked at his watch and that gave me a cue. And at one o'clock he just stood up kind of in the middle of the meeting, and that signified the meeting was over, and it wasn't rude. His team just knows when the meeting times up, we're done, we're done. And what that is that's set a context and a tone that when we have a meeting that's this long,
that's how long it is. And setting up those kind of disciplines and kind of barriers around your life, guardrails around your life, protects your time.
And it's uncomfortable to do that because we feel as people please is which a lot of us are. We're scared to do that because we're thinking, oh God, if I stand up, is everyone going to think like I'm like stuck up? Like you know, there's gonna be that sense. How do you deal with that discomfort and that awkwardness of I'm setting a boundary to protect myself, but I'm scared how people are going to perceive me.
It's just being gracious when you do it. And it's also eventually, what I've found is, like I said earlier, people now respect my time a little bit more. I become more listen. There's a pace in a rhythm to success. Here's something no one talks about when it comes to success and being productive. And you know this. There's a rhythm and a cadence to it. It's an invisible thing that the people that are winning somehow have found themselves.
You know this with the actors, you've worked with their entertainers. It's hard to express, but they found a rhythm and a cadence to their life that creates momentum in their life. Momentum is a major magnifier in life. When you get momentum, but there's a rhythm to it. And when you sort of aren't disciplined with your time and a meeting runs over ten minutes or twenty minutes, you are not in the rhythm of success. There's a pace. It's not her it's not hurry or rush, but it's a little quicker
than most people. Though successful people walk a little faster. They're in a little bit more of a hurry. They talk a little faster. There's a rhythm and a pace and a intensity, a passion to the dialogue and the conversation. You know exactly what I mean, and it's invisible. Maybe you can express it well right now too, have you
seen it? And until you find that you're not really in the rhythm of hyper productivity or bliss or success, and when you're around people that possess that rhythm, you feel it, and that isn't demeaning when they do it. There's a graciousness to it and a respect you have that they respect themselves, and you enough in that moment to be organized enough and disciplined enough not to let it bleed into a place that it doesn't need to go. You know what I mean?
Right, Yeah, it's actually looping back. I'm so glad you raised that because it's such a subtle point, and to me, it comes back down to something I raised earlier, of this energy and time balance, because the question I ask myself is the time that I set the meeting is based on when I think my energy will be best, And the amount of time I give a meeting is the amount of time I can give intense, hundred percent energy. So I'm not For example, when I'm recording a podcast,
we do two podcasts a day maximum. The reason for that is I know if I did a third one, I have the time to do a third one, but my energy is not there. My presence is not that I'm not at a one hundred percent intensity, which means the quality drops really, so it's also not just doing more, as you're saying. It's not just doing more because I can squeeze more in a day. I just know the third podcast is going to be the worst one that I record, and so we don't do it.
By the way, you should have told me that about two years ago. Ah No, seriously, that you're one hundred percent right. And I make that mistake sometimes of doing four in a day, and it's not fair to the third and fourth person. It's not going to do it.
You might be able to do it. We all have different capacities.
You're right. And the other thing I do in my schedule, since we're being tactical, is I like to load up my Mondays and Tuesdays with heavy things early in my week, and I like the later part of my week to be a little bit more peaceful and joyous, so that I'm sort of building towards it's almost like my super Bowl almost my Mondays and Tuesdays those are going to be heavy days. The other thing I do is my
most important meetings. I kind of know me. I'm not particularly a great early morning person, nor am I great late at night. I'm really in a good space about when we're recording this right now. That's sort of noon to three pm window for me. I don't know if I'm the most hydrated. I've already worked out, so my really important meetings I try to schedule in my highest energy state when I know I'm peeking in my given day. So you're one hundred percent right about that.
And I think these are the mechanics of how you connect energy and the real world, because you can't just say I worked out this morning, I feel good, Everything's going to go all right now. And I think we have that kind of we have this checklist mentality of if I've done these three things, then everything else will go okay. But actually all the other stuff needs to
be managed and intentionally designed. I think I've been talking a lot about this recently with people that I think often we think if people are casual or relaxed or laid back, then things will work out better. But actually you find, as you're saying, most success, productivity and joyfulness is intentionally designed in order to create an experience. And I wanted to get your thoughts on that, Like.
You're a billion percent right, Yeah, the higher you climb, there's all this other stimulus happening in your life. Right So, if you don't create those constructs now, when you get to a point where you get the things you want in your life, the demands on your energy and time only increase, and your ability to manage that and create structures around you that keep you productive. That's a huge
thing you've just shared. I've watched a lot of people climb to a point, and when they get to that point, they didn't create new structures around them to support the next level. Every level you climb requires a different type of energy and structure. And so some things, even that I'm doing right now, I know maybe four or five ye now, I'm gonna have to reevaluate those that will change with the conditions of my life. For me right now, as busy as I am, it requires more intent to
structure than ever in my life. And if I didn't create them when things weren't quite this busy, I don't think I would have continued to flowed into the next state. And I've watched a lot of people get to a place and then they can't navigate that next level because of the structure, maybe the lack of a team around them, quality people management of those things, and so I'm always
trying to be ahead structurally to my results. What most people think is I'm going to produce this thing and then when I get there, I'll figure it out from there. That stagnates your growth. You've got to be preparing and expecting that growth and creating the structures around you to facilitate it. So it continues to flow.
So good, so good, and I think we get sentimental, and we get sentimentally it's so good. I can't let go of this habit or this structure or this thing because it got me here, and I feel like you have to get really non sentimental, like so right, what you're saying about is preparing.
Well, mine's my morning routine. I used to have a very long morning routine. Cold plunge, meditate, pray, gratitude, ritual, stretch, you know. And the thing got so long that I'm like, my gosh, I'm two hours into a routine. Here, I gotta get the work. You're gonna get some stuff done, and so you kind of be. And what it was is I started to accumulate these sentimental things that man, that day I cold plunged. I had a big speech that day, so I better keep cold plunging every day,
and I better keep it. I started stacking up this closet full, and I had to come in and it's like an old closet full of clothes. I had to go, which of these don't I wear anymore?
Yes, And I'm.
Gonna take this one and give it away, like and so you're right. It's it's the sentimental holding on to things that got you where you are won't get you where you're going. And so I have to constantly kind of audit my closet, so to speak. And so my morning routine now is nowhere nearly as sophisticated as it used to be. It's much more brief, but it's sir now, it serves who I am now, it serves my ambitions and goals now. And so you're one thousand percent right about that. Yeah.
A lot of people I speak to as well, they struggle with and I've struggled with this in the past, where you know what you need to do, you know how much time you have, but then you procrastinate, you overthink, and I'm sure you get asked this question all the time, but I still see it again and again and again in the same people where they tell me Jay, I'm gonna have this done, gonna I'm accountable, I'm gonna commit, But then somehow it still doesn't happen for them.
Yep.
What have you found is really useful insight for someone who finds themselves constantly getting stuck. They know what they need to do, they know how much time they have, but they keep procrastinating and overthinking.
One. You're trying to get your life back to your identity. You and I've talked to this analogy before, so I'll be quick with it. But your identity, your personal belief in yourself. Your identity is like the thoughts, beliefs, and concepts you hold to be most true about you. It's a thermostat setting on your life. We talked about this before. Give you two things, So like this studio or in I don't know, seventy two degrees in here right now,
something like that. The external conditions that it's a cold, rainy day here in la. The external cond's put fifty degrees outside. That does not affect the internal thermostat in this room. It is seventy two degrees. If it was ninety degrees outside, the air conditions will come on and cool this room back to seventy two degrees. You procrastinate because your results are about to exceed your identity, and
you're turning the air conditioner on. So if right now you're getting seventy two degrees of you believe in yourself at seventy two degrees of wealth or abundance of productivity, and you've started to heat it up to eighty five ninety one hundred degrees, you subconsciously turn the air conditioner on of your life to cool it back down to what you really believe you're worthy of and you deserve. So the deep work is you've got to raise that identity of what you believe you're worth to eighty five
ninety one hundred degrees. How do you do that? Typically proximity to people who live at that thermostat setting, they will heat you up to theirs. So that's a huge one.
That is a huge I just want to make that you made that sound so si bilend you made it really easy. That is the huge one. Yeah, that is it. It is at that gut level.
I watch it. That's why you'll see somebody who, for example, their love thermostatus seventy two degrees and you go on you double date, they're with their dream person. You're like, oh my gosh, they're in love. It's blissful. They're at ninety one hundred degrees of love in their life. And a year later you run into them and you're like, so, how is Steve or how's janis? Oh, it didn't work out.
What happened was they turned the air condition on and cooled it back to what they believe they deserve, oftentimes or wealth. We've all had these friends that there're seventy two degrees of wealth and all of a sudden, man, their business is kicking eighty five ninety one hundred. And what happens is it seems coincidental all supply chain, Oh this or that a customer broke off, a car broke down, I had to loan money to a friend. No, those
were circumstances. What really happened was you turned the air conditioners on and you cooled your life back financially to believe what you believe you're worth. Same in your body, someone's seventy two degrees of fitness. They're getting in shape, they've lost the ten pounds, they look great, and you see them in a year and they've come all the way back and gained it back, and you're like, what happened? They turned the air conditioner on of their life and
got back to what they believe they're worth. You got to change that thermostat setting. And it's typically like in my faith life, if I was a seventy two degrees in my faith, I started to surround myself with some men in my faith life. Man, they live in their faith at ninety five and one hundred. They heeded me up by proximity. Now my thermostat setting is different, So
that's a biggie. The second one with procrastination is you've developed a false belief system in yourself of what you need to know to take action, and so successful people are willing to step into the unknown and the unprepared more than people who are unsuccessful. Now I'm not saying I don't like to research. Like Pod, you're super prepared for today, so am I. But there are just situations in my life of what I think I need to know is much lower than most people to step into
the space and perform. So procrastination is really saying I got to know a little more. I gotta prepare little bit more. I gotta get a little bit more ready, a little bit more ready, a little bit more ready, and you keep raising the readiness quota to a point where you never take action. Got to get to this point where you're like, I'm going to get into the room, I'm going to start to write that paper, I'm going to start the book. I'm going to get into that
and I'll figure it out when I get there. And most people that are successful have this internal belief system that I don't need to know everything to take action. I just need to know enough to get in the room and I'll figure it out from there. And you've known this with all the successful people you've coached. That is something they possess in droves, is the ability to get into a space and step into a room and figure it out from there and not have to know everything.
And that's how most of them discovered their passion, even discovered it, because they were just pushed into it. I remember the first presentation I ever gave. The speaker had canceled, really and my friend said to me, well, there's no speaker. You've got to give the tour. And I was just like, what do you mean, I've got to give the tour?
Like the speaker was really like well known and like in the community and all the rest of it, and they're like, no, no, no, but we haven't got a backup, and we can't invite someone last minute because it would look bad on them. But because you're a nobody, basically you can give the tour.
Wow.
Was just like, So I started preparing and I had three days, So I started preparing, I started doing it. I went up there and I just did it and I loved it, and I was like, oh, this is my this is this feels right for me. And I would never have discussed that. But I didn't get pushed into it. It would never have happened.
That's a beautiful story.
Never have happened. And so I think so many times that you're so right, and I love that you addressed the first part about belief of what we deserve. I just want that to sit with people because the way you like just put that out there, like I'm like, that is exactly it. That there is some part of us that just doesn't believe we deserve. Yes, the level of success with strivings, right.
And those those those subtle, subconscious air conditioners of our lives that cool down show up as coincidences, you know, but really they're not. They're by design because you're going to cool your life back to what you believe you deserve. Every day, when I work with athletes, or like, what do you do with the pro athletes you work with, I'm mainly you know this. Even what do most people want? When someone's really successful, what are you working on? Usually
their identity or their confidence. It's usually those two things, and their identity is the more important thing. Now. The other thing that happens is for a lot of people with their identity is they'll attack their identity to the external, to their beauty, to their performance, to their career, and then when they lose that career or they lose that NFL football career they've got, then they don't know who
they are without it. So this identity should be deeply rooted in who you are, not just what you do. That's all.
Let's talk about that, because I've been playing around with that a lot myself lately and in trying to articulate that, because I think the world has convinced us that what we do is our value. So even people's introductions to themselves is oh yeah, I'm an accountant, I'm a lawyer, I'm an author, I'm a coach, I'm a podcaster. Whatever it is we're describing, I am followed by a doing word,
not a being word. And so even our value in society is also and so I went to that college is so, and so has that job, Like we see value. And even in the past, the way you had value was someone was a blacksmith and someone was a baker, and that was their value. And then even before that, we used to barter because of what we did, and then we could trade that. So so much of identity for hundreds of years has been tied up in what we do.
By the way, it's a you're so brilliant, bro, I love our conversations. It's a very dangerous way to live your life. When your identity is tied up in what you do as arouser than who you are, as you say being, you're in a very dangerous place because if it's tied to those things and they then they don't exist. You're completely lost without them. And it is a very shallow and I don't mean like shallow in the sense
that like you know, shallow, like a crash. I mean it's not a very There's not a lot of depth to that identity that is long lasting when it's attached to what we do, or what we look like, or what we've achieved. You know, you'll say that you're right. I've just I just met someone the other day who I knew immediately they lacked a strong identity because they can. They immediately just resumeated me. I did this, I did that, I achieved this, I was written here, I was that.
And I actually stopped them, and because I really liked them, and I won't say who she was, but I said, you know, I really like you. I like you. What impresses me is you who you are, your kindness. She's brilliant, by the way, this woman too, You're so brilliant, You're so kind. That's your identity. Your identity isn't your MBA. Your identity isn't your career. That's not your identity. But they've linked it to that, and it is a dangerous way to live your life. And it's not a deep
way to live your life. A deep way to live your life where you can make impact in multiple areas is to root your identity and who you are, those intentions, the things that you believe to be true. Your character, the way you conduct yourself, your value in life, your value, your valuable That's where identity is deeply rooted, not in the external. It's okay to be proud out of your degree or your achievement, or your career or your company.
That's different being proud of something and having a sense of, you know, gratitude for what you've achieved. That's great, But when you link your identity to it, you're in a dangerous and shallow place.
Absolutely last question ed. We've talked about peace, We've talked about productivity. How does it not lead to burnout when you're trying to do all this right, you're working on the intern or self, you're working on the productivity. It's like, gosh, Jay, I'm exhausted trying to do all this and exhausted trying to manage Like I want to be successful, but I want to be spiritual. I'm trying to do it. I
want to be everything and do everything. Like, how how have you managed and what have been your reflections on burnout, exhaustion, and then of course ruining relationships in the process.
Well, I've done all those, so I have experience in burnout and ruining relationships and messing things up. And here's what I've learned. I want all the things I want, but I don't have to have them right now. And it's the right now of life. I gotta be in a hurry. I gotta do it, I gotta do it. I can do it now now, now. Now, there's a power of now. Some people lack the ability to operate in the now, but for me, it's I have built into my life rest. Last night I slept twelve hours, wow.
And the reason was is I've been getting to the point right now where I'm tinkering on the edge of too much now, too much now, too much now, And so I reflect back on my faith, I reflect back on I love. I mean, there's basic things I know you do. But I'm a big person on earthing and grounding. I love to get outdoors. I love to put my bare feet in the ground and let that recharge me. I'm real big on my recharge stuff now. And sometimes
that means lots of sleep, believe it or not. I used to brag that I got five or six hours of sleep, and I could operate on that. And I've learned over time, maybe there's a season for that. That's great, But there's also a season where I listen to my body. You're the best at this, but I've gotten better at listening to my spirit and my body. And when my spirit is screaming at me, you need to rest, you need to reach charge. I listen to my body, especially
at fifty two years old. My body will speak to me even more now than sometimes it ever has in my life, and I listen to it, and I've given myself to gift. I'm not afraid anymore. You and I have talked about this privately. I'm not afraid anymore that I'm gonna lose momentum. I can say no to something, I can rest, I can recharge, I can reflect, and it doesn't mean I'm gonna lose momentum. I used to believe if I don't keep going, I'm gonna lose the
momentum I've got. And the truth is, that's an insecurity in me. That's my lack of identity screaming at me. And there's really three things. Whether you believe in whatever your spiritual beliefs are. But if I if I was the adversary or the devil, what would I do to try to get you off track. What would I do? There's really three things. The first thing I would do is I get you to doubt three ds. I'll get
you to doubt. Can I get jayshtty doubting himself, doubting that it matters, doubting his ability, doubting he can go to the next level. I'm gonna get him to doubt. Well, yeah, if I me too, Me too. I can see it on your face right now, me too, doubting me. The second thing, as I'll get them discouraged. I'll have a real critic. I'll have some hits, have a miss or two swinging a miss right. If I can get them discouraged,
then I got them. And the third thing, if I can't do that, or I'll do both, I'll get them a bit. Delusional. Delusion is believing something's worse than it is or better than it is. And you thought stack and you start to stack it. What about this? What about this? What about this? What about this? And I get you magnifying something to believe that it's a far bigger problem than it is, far more dramatic than it is, or far better than it is.
You just explain my last twelve months. Oh my god. Wow.
And so those are the three d's, and so it's it's doubt, discouragement, and delusion. And what I try to do is when I see them showing up and they do, I go, I know exactly what this is. This is this is the negative coming to get me. This is trying to get me off course and my dreams and my vision and my contribution. And I am not going to let other people be cheated because I doubt and
I'm discouraged and I'm delusional. And so I really focus when those things come up, and I identify them when they're there, and I root them out because I know where they're coming from and they're not coming from good. They're not coming from God, they're not coming from high vibrational frequency. They're coming from the worst of the worst. And so I absolutely rid them out when they show up.
That is a huge gift to me. You have no idea. You have no idea, O brother, genuinely, you have no idea that a.
Be your a gift to me every time that is no, that's.
A real gift, EDM. I let everyone follow ed on Instagram if you don't already, go and listen to this podcast max out and books. I mean no, no, no new books right now, just the Power one more. Yeah, the book we discuss last and Power one More.
Help anybody anyway I can, Man, and you're the best.
Thank you so much for coming back. I love these conversations. Honestly, they're so healing and therapeutic to me. I feel like I'm that seventy two spending time at the ninety five. It's like it really does heat me up, honestly, genuinely like these these are such life giving some psicians for me. So I'm so glad we recorded. I'm so glad we're going to share it and thank you. Grateful man, genuinely grateful.
So, my brother, you're blessing of my life. You're blessing.
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