Oh hello, it's your friend's ex husband, who admittedly made the best squacam only in the friend group. Ali Ward back with a very just sumptuous episode of Ologies. So we have talked a lot about the noggin on this podcast, But what about butts? Why do we have them? How do they work? Why do we want to touch them?
We're gonna dive pretty deep after. I think patreon supporters of course at Patreon dot com, slash ologies, and everyone who subscribes and rates and of course reviews Ologies for me to select a newborn review such as this one from Miss fairy Princess this week, who wrote in that Ologies has made me realize that every subject is interesting. You just need to talk to someone who loves what
they do. Bonus, there are transcriptions and bleeped episodes for those who think squear words are inappropriate around certain company, available on aliboard dot com to make sure it's accessible for everyone. Exclamation point, well timed review, Miss fairy Princess, thank you, let's crack into this episode. Let's get into it. Glue Udeology study of butts. We're here, it's happening. Life is beautiful. Okay. So in Greek gludios means the rump, and the word butt comes from the end of a
piece of something. But if you google gluteology you will find that we are not the first to use it in reference to all matters ours. So if you look up the word rumpology side note, you'll find that that is related, but somewhat more spiritual discipline. But don't worry, we will fill in those scracks for you. So this ologist is a primatologist, an anthropologist, a science host and correspondent. You may have heard her on Star Talk or Not
Geo Wilde's Everything You Didn't Know About Animals. She's co hosted Curiosity Daily and more. And we met years ago at a NERD Brigade dinner and I'd always lamented that there couldn't be a second Primatology episode, but she emailed me recently reminding me that she has appeared on TV to talk specifically about butts, as that is her specialty.
So I welcomed Gluteology with open arms. Stick around to learn what exactly is a butt, which animal has the largest butt, cultural butt preferences, why many people enjoy the esthetics of ass, squatty potties, trends, hairiness, shady injections, personal, very personal revelations but versus legs, and of course, the importance of self acceptance, and plenty of very cheeky punts with entertainer, primatologist and gluteologist Natalia Reagan.
Hello, Ah, how are you.
Butts, butts, butts, butts, butts.
I've been doing it to shots. Butts, butts, butts, butts, butts, bots butts. I'm rearing and ready to get behind this topic. I'm sorry it took us so long to get here.
Alli.
We're gonna get to the bottom of a lot of questions. Ay, first thing I'm going to make you do is say your first and last name and your pronouns.
I'm going to tell you Reagan, and my pronouns are she and her You are.
I think a gluteologist. If I looked into it the right way, you could be a rumpologist or a gluteologist.
I'm thinking gluteologist because rumpologist I've only found a few and I definitely don't necessarily want to be lumped in with those rumps. If you know what I mean.
Rumpology is more like palm reading, but for the buttox.
Yeah, more astrology. If you know what I mean. Ok, yeah, And I was able to do some digging. I went real deep in there into the cracks and crevasses. And Sylvester Stallone's mom, Allie Jacqueline Stallone or Jackie Stallone, as a rumpologist, and she claims that the Babylonians the Greeks did this, but there is no back story or history
other than what she's done. She an Olf Buck who is a blind clairvoyant out of Germany who also feels the naked tushes of his friends to give them sort of fortune telling of what to expect from the future, from the literal past which is behind them.
Oh my god.
Oh. I should also note, honestly, Alli, go to her website because there's she does. She has I think four examples of different butts, and one of them is I think it says American Action Hero. And I'm just like, oh, come on, did she put her son's butt? There?
Is it in a diaper from when he's a bid the Oh my god, Okay, wait, he's Stallone. She's really caph realizing on it.
She has very strong opinions about the cleft or the crack in a butt and what that means, and One of my favorite things she said was that was it. The lawyers had the long Yeah, long cracks. The short cracks belonged to wait, hold on no bankers. Yeah, bankers had short cracks. Lawyers had long cracks. The width of a crack also was sort of associated with professions. A politician had a wide crack, cops had a narrow one.
Oh my god, there's a very hairy fortune. Five hundred CEO female movie star. You're right, male action hero movie star. I think I can see just a whisper of scroat in that. And Adrian Wow, wow wow.
That will be the only cologne Stallone will wear.
Okay, ps, I looked it up, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the late Jackie Stallone passed into the Great Behind four months ago. If I ever do rambology, I will have to hunt down one of her proteges to read my rump.
Should I do it? Should I?
You know what, let's all move forward and let's just get down to business. So so happy A gluteologist will say, we've established that. I think, now, how did you get into studying butts and monkeys and primate butts? And I mean, what even is a butt?
What is a butt? I was always a fan of butts as a child, only because I remember, actually I bit my mom on the butt at a restaurant once and I called it. I watched Sesame Street, and I remember they did like love pinches and love bytes, and so I gave her a love bite, and I remember her that was the first time I actually had to apologize. You know when your parents make you apologize, and that's you kind of remember that being a really pivotal moment
where you're like, I did something bad, I'm sorry. It was because I bit my mom on the butt.
I bet she she loves the story now, though.
I don't even know if she remembers. I wonder if she does when I talk to her next, I'm gonna have to ask. Yeah. As a kid, though, I mean I was, I never had that bean pole phase. I always was kind of like a just sort of a muscular kid. And I remember even like a babysitter of mine complimenting my shapely legs and I was eight, oh boy, and it was she was like a grandma. So it wasn't meant anyway other than just like, you're not a
string bean. And then when I would got to junior high, I remember everybody, you know, back back in the day, this is the early nineties, flat butts were all the rage. And then I remember I kind of had a shelf that my friends used to joke about all the time. I got made fun of a lot by my girlfriends. And and then I remember baby Pack came out. It's just so brown, it's out there, and I remember just
loving that song and Rumpshaker. There were a lot of songs in the early nineties that I definitely was a hip to. And really, I mean that just shows you how dorky I am. I said, hip too, but yeah. And then as I got older, I really enjoyed understanding the evolution of how humans became, you know, and look
the way we do today, how we evolved. And I remember when I realized in a paleoanthropology and a actually it was an intro to biological anthropology class that I first was taught that basically walking on two legs led to the bigger booty in humans versus non human primates. So yeah, walking on two legs because basically non human primates monkeys and apes and lemurs and lorises don't have
a sweet peachy keister like we do. They have. Some actually have issial collosities, many of the circopithecoids or what we have been calling old world monkeys, but we're moving away from that term because it's inherently a little outdated.
So an issial callosity, by the bye, is a fancy term for those butt pads on some primates, and it's coming from issuel of the issue, which is part of your pelvis, the part that your yoga teacher may have called your sit bones during a yummy stretch, and callosity as in big old callous. So some primates have these large disc pads that they sit on, but we have luscious cleaved cushions.
Why but yeah, so we actually have this butt because we have to walk on two legs, and the increased size of the gluteus maximus medius and minimis muscles helps support that mode of locomotion. So they help stabilize our ability to walk and stand and bend over and do so all sorts of things. Although I did find out that they do not are they're not necessarily used in torking,
believe it or not. It's more pelvic glutes. Yeah, yeah, so glutes are not as used as you thought, as you think for something like torquing, which I thought, Oh, that's got to be you know, that's why I can't do it. My glutes are not strong enough. But apparently it's my pelvis really okay.
Side note, I looked into this and someone calling herself the torking Technician offers workshops to work shops if you will teaching quote the basic anatomy of the hips, which muscles are used for adduction and abduction, and specific isolation exercises so you can gain the ability to communicate with these muscles for a proper torque. And No, Miley Cyrus did not invent torking with her twenty thirteen legendary VMA appearance.
It blossomed, not surprisingly undercredited from the West African dance the Mapuka, which may have originated from the bump. Either way, booty shakings rutes start in the hips.
Yeah, it's less about the actual gluteous muscles and more about the actual pelvis and the movement of it. And the butt gets you know, gets jiggled around as you move your pelvis and your legs, you know, being the behind that gets that, you know, the rump shaking if you know what I mean.
Oh, this is so good. This means there's room for improvement, and we know there is now amazing. Now, Okay, you became a primatologist and an anthropologist. How did you end up studying this? From going having shapely legs and biting butts to becoming a professional ologist? How'd you do it?
That's a really good question. So yeah, growing up, I used to actually have well, I should change that. I still have recurring King Kong nightmares. I started having them when I was about two or three, very very very young. I watched that movie, probably too young, but I would hear the footsteps coming and would you know, run to the center of the house where there was no windows, and I remember King Kong would just rip off of the house and eat my family one by one by one.
So in Italia's nightmares, King Kong would straight up eat her like a granola bar. And so she started to try to control the narrative of her dreams, shrinking King Kong down to a more snugly ape.
And in one dream, but I opened the door and it was an orangutan and it hugged me. And ever since then, I was enamored with primates and just it was almost like Stockholm syndrome, where all of a sudden I was just in love and didn't have that fear, and so I wanted to be a zoologist. But as I got older, and I think this happens a lot with you know, not just with young girls in steam,
but anybody that wants to do steam or STEM. They don't excel in math and science when they get to junior high in high school, and so they just feel, you know, defeated, and they you know, pick a different path,
which isn't necessarily a bad thing. But I was like, oh, I'm not doing great in math and science, mostly math, and so I threw myself into the one thing I was good at, which was at the time comedy in theater, because you know, being a shapely kid, read husky, I was definitely having to turn to comedy to deflect any
sort of bullying and things like that. So I became a theater dork and I ended up going to school for theater, but took an anthropology class my first year at uc or vine Go Anteaters, and I fell in love with biological anthropology, just the idea of how did we get to where we are? And how are we still evolving? Because we are, we haven't stopped, and same
with every other species out there. So but while I remember taking this biological anthropology class, I just became fascinated with how the environment shapes us and then even like our motivoic emotion shapes the way we look. I became obsessed with the idea that we got butts from walking on two legs, and same with getting boobs. You know which we'll get to. We'll get to the breasttail ever told shortly.
We're going to get to boobs in a hot, floppy second. But first I want to know when it comes to biological anthropology and how evolution and our environment kind of shapes us. I'm still trying to get my head around the butt and walking upright? Do we need those butt muscles to be pulling on parts of our legs like a puppeteer? How do they even? Are they working like levers? How does that work?
It's a basically yeah, that's a great question. It's basically allowing the way it connects, it allows the hips to sort of stabilize in place, and so non human primates also have gluty maximus medius and minimis muscles, but the gluteas maximus specifically attaches at a different place on the pelvis. It attaches on the issium. Now on humans it attaches on the ilium, which is the top portion of the pelvis, and that allows us to have more stability and kind of maintain our balance.
So Natalia explained that chimpanzees are closest genetic relative have glutes, but they are much less beefy than ours because they stick the little rumps out behind them. But our muscles need to be strong enough to help us balance upright so that we don't just topple over every time we take a step. So Natalia bounced around at college, narrowing down her passion and working in TV and live theater as she went.
When I graduated from undergrad, I knew that I loved primates. I had fallen in love with the field of anthropology, but I didn't quite know how or where I was going to go next. I was going to apply to grad school and I wanted to stay for my thing was primate conservation. I wanted to not only learn about the monkey butts, but also conserve You can't you can't study the monkey butts if the monkey butts are extinct. So I ended up going to grad school to focus on conservation of monkey butts.
Oh and what kind of questions does it answer for you as a human.
Looking at non human primates? I say, a model for human behavior can be a slippery slope. It could be great because you could actually learn a lot from what we do based on what they do. But we have to remember is that they've been evolving this whole entire
time that we have we split off from a common ancestor. So, for instance, it's easy to go, oh, well, look at chimpanzee behavior, that's so cool, that explains why we do what we do, But we come from a common ancestor with chimpanzees, and chimps might have behaved totally I mean theoretically probably not super different from the way they behave now, but they might seven million years ago, they could have
been behaving differently. So it's hard to kind of look at that behavior and be like, oh, that's why we do what we do now, because, like I said, the environment shapes so much of how we look and also how we behave. But so for me, it's a mixture of At first, I think when I was younger, it was looking at them as models for human behavior. But now I just find them intrinsically interesting, just like I find frogs fascinating. I know that you ALI love bugs.
I love bugs too, write I mean it's I learn a bunch about them, but I don't necessarily it's not because I want to understand how they relate to humans.
But before grad school, when she was just nineteen, she was still finding her footing, if you will, And after our interviews, she realized she forgot to tell me this story, so I had her send me a voice memo because it's really something.
I then started taking night classes at Santa Monica College and fell in love with biological anthropology. I took archaeology, I took zoology. It was one of those things where I was like, holy crap, this is what I want to do, but I didn't really know how to actually pursue it. And by the way, if you live in Los Angeles, Santa Monica College is excellent. Go there. It's fantastic. And then I got hit by a truck as a pedestrian on the shoulder of the freeway and everything changed.
So I was on the one on one freeway and traffic slowed. I slammed on my brakes, but they locked and I rearended the person in front of me. Now, the next exit on this freeway was an entrance to another freeway, because normally I would just get off at the next exit because I hate the shoulder of the freeway. I know how dangerous it is. But the car in front of me, who I remended, pulled over onto the shoulder, and I pulled over behind them because I didn't want
them to think it was a hit and run. That's when a woman came up on the shoulder going about sixty five miles per hour, hit my truck. My truck hit me, broke my femur, and then pinned me between the truck and the car that I had re rended, and that crushed my lower right leg. And then the way she hit me, my truck spun out and I got tossed onto the off ramp onto my head, which explained so much. Anyways, next the ambulance comes, and of course they have to cut off all my clothes. That's
where the lack of underwear becomes a thing. I basically put on a show for the EMTs and the entire contents of the one on one Freeway. You're welcome. But they took me to the er and had to do a couple blood transfusions because I lost a lot of blood and because I had a crush injury to my lower right leg. They couldn't cast my femur, so they inserted a rod into it, and they took it out about two years later, and I got to keep it. So I have this big purple titanium femoral rod on
my mantle right now. Very dorky, but yeah. So that that accident was the catalyst to get my butt back to school. Some people need a kick in the butt. I just needed to get hit by a ninety four Ford Ranger. But I'm not suggesting that you get hit by a truck. Please don't let that happen to you. It's really not good. In fact, if you're ever in an accident, get off the freeway altogether. Don't get on
the shoulder. Stay off the shoulder. But seriously, that was the impetus to go back to school and really throw myself into the work that I wanted to do. It was challenging because I still had these long term effects from the accident. I had foot drop in my right leg. The way it healed, I had a massive limp, and the only way I could walk normal was wearing heels, and I wore a leg brace for a pretty long time. I have a bit of a limp still, it's hard
to tell unless I'm wearing completely flat shoes. If I wear heels, it evens it out. But as an anthropologist, all this stuff was fascinating to me. I love understanding you know how my missing tibialis interior muscle affects all my movement because I do notice, like when I did fieldwork, I had to use a walking stick because I called myself the jack Tripper of primatology, because wow, I fell uphill going downhill, I fall on flat surfaces. It is
a problem, and it's because of my injuries. And my injuries taught me about anatomy and the ability to walk on two legs or the inability and what that means. So and also it shows I think how resilient bodies are, Like I don't. I don't know if I should be alive. I mean, I got hit by a truck going sixty five miles per hour, darn it. But bodies are really freaking strong, and so I try to remember that when anytime I get down on myself for oh man, I wish I could do this or that or run a marathon.
It's like, Eh, you chased monkeys after getting hit by a truck, you're cool. Another strange side effect from the accident, one butt cheek is slightly bigger than the other. Yes, I think it's because one leg is compensating for the other and it's just spread to my butt cheeks, and
so one's just a better pillow, you know. And these are the things that have happened to my body that make me a appreciate it, like hey, you've survived, but also make me really interested in anatomy and just how everything is connected.
So once she was back on her feet, she went through undergrad and of course she became a primatologist, going full steam ahead into the Panamanian forest.
Oh goodness, So I did field work. I said, I wanted to study gorillas, but then I had to pivot and just kind of do the next best thing. And luckily my advisor at cal State Northridge, doctor Christina Campbell. She studied spider monkeys on BCI at an island in the Panama Canal, and she had just gotten in contact with an organization on the Azuero Peninsula in Panama and they needed somebody to literally do a survey of spider monkeys.
So I moved to Panama to basically count monkeys and trees and get as much data as I could about you know, their age, their sex, and any distinguishing characteristics. And so it was a magical time. We basically would go out every day anywhere between eight to twelve to fifteen hours a day, oftentimes on horseback to get to the actual forest fragments because basically it was a heavily disforested area of Panama that also was right in the best surfing spot of Panama. So that's what we did
on our days off, right. Yeah, it was it was magical. And yeah, and spider monkeys a little I mean, I don't know if you know this, but spider monkeys, the female have hypertrophied glitteris so they're oh I does, yeah, but spider monkeys have a very large glitter, a very long clitterists that I remember the first time I ever saw spider monkey, I thought, oh, look at that male and then I was quickly schooled, no, that is a female.
And it really helped us because males and females there's not a lot of sexual dimorphism in terms of size, meaning the males and females are very similar in size. In spider monkeys.
Side notes, spider monkeys live up to eight stories high in the rainforest canopies, and at first I was getting them confused with those tiny little pigmy marmosets, which are like the size of tarantula. But no, spider monkeys. They're not the eighty bitty thumb huggers. Rather, they're about a meter tall, weighing in at about twenty five pounds. They're just named spider monkeys because of their long limbs and other long.
Stuff, And so it helped me. If I saw a spider monkey in the distance, I could see the dangler just sort of protruding from her undercarriage and be like that, there is a female. And luckily, though data they're all maps, and they've been able to use basically these maps to help reforest that area and it's gotten better, and I heard that monkeys are actually there's more coming back in
different parts of the region. So I'm planning on going back when things are better to see if there's any more work that can be done.
So why do some humans walk through a jungle looking up at other primates just mechanically speaking and walking upright versus not working upright? What led to us standing up and having back pain?
You know, having really crappy knees.
Yeah, painful childbirth, right, yeah, painful Childbirth's that's that big old brain of ours.
But walking upright there. So there are a few different theories that could work in tandem or separately, or that's the thing about coming up with evolutionary theories is we
don't necessarily know for sure. But with when it comes to being bipedal, there's this idea that as you know, the climate was changing in different parts of Africa, it would behoove those ancestors of ours to stand upright so they could see any predator, say in the area, or they could you know, hold things, for instance, like their offspring. So there's a benefit to standing upright for predator avoidance, for being able to you know, hold and carry things,
especially if they're gathering food items. Also, thermo dynamics and thermoregulation basically the idea that if you're on all fours on, you're living in an area where you don't have any shade, you're getting all that sun on your back, and standing upright limits the amount of sun exposure that you're getting, so it would not be beating down just you know, beating down on your head, not your whole back. And at this point we're assuming that also we still have
fur covering our bodies. It's not exactly known exactly when all that went away because soft tissue, unfortunately does not preserve.
I mean, some of us lost all of our some of us are Italian.
I didn't know what to say. I was like some some people did not lose very much at all. I'm Scottish, so I don't know about you, Ali, and I don't know if it's a Scottish thing necessarily, but I am hairy. I have done multiple rounds of laser hair removal all over my body pretty much.
Oh yeah, really, oh yeah, some people are hairier than others. And also just dad word here to say, no matter what your gender, or how you look or what you're into.
It's a okay.
It's more than a okay. It's the result of millions of years of sexual selection and survival and it's just beautiful. But what about what about the sexual nature of butts? Why do you think we look at them so much?
That's a great question. For instance, dudes or even ladies find the keyster nice and attractive. Is the hip to waste ratio. It was long thought that the hip to waste ratio was associated with fertility, and they found that actually it's not. Those that have a lower hip to waste ratio are not necessarily healthier or have higher fertility. So that's kind of a myth, but it's still something
that some will find more attractive. But again, I think what really needs to be stressed is there are cultural differences over across the world. Certain things are considered more attractive in certain places, some things are considered taboo.
Some psychologists hypothesize that our own butts are a part of our body that we can't see or judge. So maybe there's something forbidden with looking at other steriers when they themselves hardly know. But alas, hello mirrors. Okay, so what are some other theories?
Honestly, many have surmised that the roundness is very attractive, including some people say that the breasts mimic the actual butt, and it's yeah. I mean, it's to be determined exactly what came first in terms of the amount of fat surrounding the memory gland, which is why we have boobs versus non human primates. They lactate, they have memory glands, but they don't have the fat surrounding them like we do. But boobs and butts are similar in the fact that
they're kind of in this rounded fashion. I don't know exactly when that happened, when it became like, ooh, that's I like that supple posterior you got going on there, But I think it's something to do with the roundness and then also knowing what that entails, because if you think about it, as we were evolving from being on all fours to two legs, the sexual swellings were no longer visible, and so they were now being hidden by well just the butt and you know, just the legs.
Everything is kind of just like compact in there, which we'll get to when we talk about why we are the only animals that technically wipe too.
So many questions about oh, I know, right, and.
I've talked about this before. There's certain groups that not idolized, but fetishize or prefer booties to boobs or different body parts and things like that. But I think there's something to be said for just kind of knowing what that entails and what it's hiding and that sort of thing.
When it comes to the actual shape or the size of a booty. Why do some people have shapely butts others feel like they have pancake butts? Is it all just muscle development?
Well, it's a yeah, great question. It's muscle and fat, and the fat oftentimes is influenced by the amount of hormones that you have in your body.
And in all this talk of genders, of course, in nature, things are on a spectrum. There's so much variety. And so I see you out there, non binary friends, trans buddies and anyone who's on hormones medically, which are a lot of us, just saying giving you a thumbs up.
Now, males and females distribute fat differently, sometimes depending on what the amount of hormones that are going on in their body. Now, there aren't necessarily male and female hormones.
People say, oh, testosterone, that's a male hormone. No, females have testosterone males have estrogen, females have more estrogen on average, and therefore that is basically the determinate and where the fat is localized on the body, so hips, thighs, butt and with males and testosterone, it's usually associated with belly fat, which can be unfortunately associated with cardiovascular health because that can be really hard on the organs to have so
much fat in that region. But fat in the buttocks and the thighs, the hips is usually where those with higher amounts of estrogen will carry that extra fat. And that's a good place also because it's you know, as far as balance and not tipping over or anything like that. It doesn't make it too top heavy. It's a good
center to have all that fat. And it's a good place to store it because in times of for instance, if you know, when we were evolving, if perhaps you didn't have a lot of there was no Del Taco or McDonald's on the you know, the Savannah corner, it's good to have fat reserves just in case, in case you hit famine or any sort of times of low resource availability essentially, and that's a great place to store the fat reserves. We still see it, you know today,
distribute fat differently. And that's why, you know, if I have friends that have transitioned and they see fat distribution change because they are getting different hormones, and so that's you know, kind of a clear way we can see. Oh, okay, hormones do really determine how fat distributes on your body. So it's a mixture of Obviously, if you do a lot of squats and do running and donkey kicks and all those things, you can build up your glutes, your gluteaus,
maximus medias and minimist muscles. But sometimes it's just your hormones and you can't necessarily change that unless you, you know, try to alter it synthetically.
When it comes to different parts of the globe, as people move farther away from the equator, was fat distributed differently in their bodies to keep warm? How does that work?
Fantastic question, because there's Allen's and Bergmann's rules, which are these two different rules that associate limb proportion and trunk proportion with actual latitude or temperature. Two different rules that are associated with limb proportion and also trunk size in people or animals in different latitudes and temperature environments. So Allen's rule has to do with limb proportions. So for instance, if you're living closer to the equator where it's really hot,
you're gonna have longer, leaner limbs. If you're living further away from the equator in higher latitudes or really low latitudes, you're gonna have shorter limbs to kind of keep in that warmth. And same with Bergmann's rules, which is about trunk size and kind of you know, kind of stockiness. If you're higher up in the latitude or low low, you're going to have kind of a stockier build, and closer to the equator, you're going to be more lean. So these are ways that we can sort of adapt
to the environment. But we should note that biological evolution happens a lot slower than cultural evolution. So we're seeing a lot of different body types from all over the world that you know, weren't there until recently. It's hard to kind of determine like, oh, they look this way because they've been here for thousands upon thousands of years, because people are moving around the globe so freely now, So that's something to consider as well.
And when it comes to butts and modern butts. Now that we are moving freely about the globe, we can inject things into and on top of our butts. Are we seeing a lot of butt implants? Do you think lately or do people just take fat from one air of their body and put it over their butt muscle. I remember Kim Kardashian like saying she did not have butt implants, and she'd prove it by getting an X ray.
She's like, see, it's all me. But then I heard that there were cosmetic procedures where you just take parts of your fat and you can put it in your boobs or reallocated your butt. And I didn't even know that was possible.
Yeah, I actually didn't. I always wanted to do that as a child, and that's kind of say it speaks to how screwed up our culture is. But I remember being like, I, you know, had little little chubby belly as a kid, and I was like, I just want to put it where my boobs should be. But yeah, you can do that. I know women who've done that for like breast reconstruction, reconstructive surgery. There's also been butt lifts, So there have been butt implants and butt lifts, and
then of course. Well, I don't know if you've heard of this. There was a woman that got something injected into her butt. I know this sounds dirtier than it really should be, but it was like a mixture of it was supposed to be like a saline solution, but it was like basically, this kind of grifter put together this weird solution and just injected into this woman's butt, and she got really sick and like sepsis, like because
it got infected and all sorts of things. So people will go to great lengths to have a sweet apple bottom. You know. I hate that there is such a sort of I don't know, pressure on everybody to succumb or look a certain way, and especially because, let's face it, there's been so many fluctuations of what body type is in, which is dumb to begin with, but you know, come on, now, you shouldn't have to inject your butt with I can't
even remember it. It was a weird solution of stuff that I was like, wait a minute.
Okay, I look this up. And people have injected all kinds of stuff, including cement, super glue, mineral oil, even fix a flat tire mender, and in one Florida instance, all of those things in one injection. And then, of course there is the Brazilian butt lift, which I just found out in researching this episode. It's a fat transfer from one area of your body, like perhaps you sacrifice your cute muffin top region and put it into the posterior. And one plastic surgeon I read about online calls it
transferring your money from one pocket to the other. But it's also one of the riskiest plastic surgeries, meaning yes, you'll shell out upwards of ten grand, but it may also cost you your life.
No, I'm a big believer, honestly again, and I'm glad you said that. I'm a big believer. If it would make you happy, then do it. I don't care if women, I mean, or anybody get any sort of thing done to themselves that brings them joy. I just hate that it's something that seems to be cyclical sometimes, and in which case I things like this should not be fads. I would hope, not only because I feel like that, you know what if butts go back out and all of a sudden, you've got wait a minute, butts are
never going to go out. Let's just be real they're.
Never gonna go out, but you just have to love the butt you've got.
Yes, love your butt. I made a video called love your Butt. It's time, It's time, it's time, it's time. It's time to love your butt.
Okay, so that video was about colonoscopies. But if you need some freedom from beauty culture standards, may I suggest the two parter on colology with doctor Renee Ngelm. I'll link it on my website. Because your butt is working itself off to keep you balanced and comfy, and you owe it all the love in the world. It's the butt that's closest to you at all times, and you can touch it whenever you want, so you might as well just love.
If alf buff the clairvoyant rumpologists can't touch your butt, you can and predict your future, which is you're just gonna keep loving it.
And you know, you know you mentioned speaking of touching our own butts, we're forced to buy necessity. Human beings wipe in their bottoms. Do other animals do this? What we have our ouses so well ensconced in our butt cheeks? What's going on?
Well, I mean walking on two legs is what really makes it tough, and you kind of have to wipe because otherwise it can imagine poop in and then just standing right up, things slam shut again, and it's just it gets real foul, real foul, real quick. And so yeah, the way our motive locomotion really does kind of sort of influence whether or not we should be wiping or not.
And so, for instance, a lot of non human primates they don't, you know, I mean, let's be real, I've been shitt on by excuse me, I've been crapped on by more monkeys than I'm really happy to admit. And all they have to do is just let it rip right over my head and they don't have to wipe. In fact, I've watched them just kind of go about their business right after pooping on me.
Really not.
They don't even grab a leaf or anything.
Nothing, nothing, nothing, I've seen nothing like that, like where they either rub it on a branch. I wonder actually, honestly, if there was parasites or things like that, if maybe they had parasites, if they would maybe scratch their booty on a branch because something itched or something that might
be a possibility. But a lot of other animals, you know that quadrupedal animals don't necessarily have to do that, and we all know the cats and dogs of the world, you know, just go to town on that and play the quote unquote shallow. You know, the butthole is the information super highway of the animal kingdom. Let's be real, That's where we get all our information. So you don't want it too clean, because how else are you going to know where mister Mitten's has been all day?
Yeah?
Well, you know I was just audience too, and bore witness to my own dog having a deep conversation with her butthole today. Just a fun, disgusting side. If your dog is a real butt locker, you might be able to relieve that by learning to express its anal glance which might be itchy for them, or taking it to a vet or a groomer or a professional who can do this stinky deed for you. Trust me, it's the
worst smell I've ever smelled. But other animals I feel like they just they're good, they're done, they walk away from it. But part of it is is because they don't quite have the meat on the butts that we do.
Yeah, exactly. I live next to a bus depot, and I have these four bustypot cats that just hang out on my porch and I see their buttholes every day, you know what I mean. If I want to show you my butthole, I'm not going to show you my butthole. Ali, don't worry. I have to spread them, if you know what I mean. And that is the reason why I have to wipe and my bustypot cats and Grammy do not.
What about bidets, I haven't lived anywhere other than the United States, but so I don't know where bidets are necessarily, but any thoughts on why humans don't use them more? Why American humans don't use them more?
Because we are lazy? Yuh No. I think the days actually were getting more popular during the beginning of quarantine because I remember that toilet paper crash.
For we all.
Yeah, so I know a lot of people who got like the tush that I don't know what it's called, like that, I have one.
Yeah Oh you do, okay, I do?
Oh yeah, yeah, they're I mean they're great, right.
Yeah, it's warm, it gets your right bullseye, you know what I mean?
Whoa, hey, buy me dinner first? No, so I'm gonna tell a personal story if you don't mind. Okay, So a few now, it wasn't even a few. It was ten years ago. I was I was young, I just graduated from grad school and something didn't feel right down there, allie. So I went to a proctologist, and I kid you not. My intake nurse was the most attractive male nurse I've ever met. And I had to tell him about my bowel movements, my butt hole and all the stuff. And
I was like, this is awful. But I told him all the things, and I went in and I went to go see the female proctologist who was probably my age. Actually she was, you know, she was young, she was She was really cool and nice. And you know, when you go to a proctologists, you lay on the table and you lay on your side and she kind of spreads them and she looks and she goes, oh, your butt's too clean. What yeah? And I said, excuse me, She goes, your butt's too clean. She goes, you use
those baby wipes, don't you? And I said yeah, and she goes, yeah. It's a huge problem these days because people are using the baby wipes so much that they're drying out. Oh their booty hole. Oh my god, so there is, so, she suggested, and I and listeners at home, you want to try this, I've actually I've taught this method to a few friends of mine because it makes
me happy. You can use like a very calm, fragrance free chemical light moisturizer as a way to create your own baby wipe with toilet paper if you don't have access to a bid dat life hack.
Good to know. Also, those wipes terrible for the sewer systems. I mean fat bergs. Have you heard of the fat bergs that are happening?
Wait?
What? Ugh? There are clogs of wipes and congealed fat that has gotten hard in the cold depths of the sewers. There was one size of a school bus. What in the sewers of London. They call them fat bergs, and wipes are mostly to blame. So you heard it here first? No, yes, it's true. I forgot what episode I mentioned it in. But I went down some real holes, if you will, looking at pictures of fat bergs, and they are just what you'd expect. They're revolting.
So the fat is from I would assume, like bake in fat grease things abouts.
Oh my god, I know, I know, but that's so good to know. Everyone has an alternative now and we all appreciate that. Who doesn't appreciate that? This is amazing? I have so many questions from listeners. Can I lightning around you? Oh?
Kah, of course?
Are you excited?
Yes? Oh?
By the way, can I just say trivia? I do have a buttload of questions. But I found out recently that a buttload is an actual measurement. Did you know that?
Yeah?
I think like one hundred and twenty gallons of wine. It's a buttload of wine.
So good? I love. Yeah. No, that makes me happy when things like that actually have real scientific merit. I'm like, oh, okay, yes, Like.
A bunghole is a hole in a barrel. I got to sniff a bung hole and it smelled delicious.
Ali, will you stop talking to me about your bunghole?
Okay, okay, okay. Questions from patrons, yes, which also remind me of where you'd like me to donate for this episode. What are your charity of your choosing? Okay? A few people several people had questions about the largest butts and Emily A. Phrased it, what animal has the biggest badonk? Sammy Baker said, very very important question, which animal has the thickest donk? But before we get to your questions, a word about sponsors of the show, who you may
hear about soon. They enable us to make a donation each week, and Natalia Chowsproject chimps dot org, which gives former research chimpanzees a new lease on life at a sanctuary in the mountains of Georgia, and Natalia says that she actually did a segment there with Star Talk and became buds with Gertrude, who she now sponsors. Natalia says that Gertrude quote did fling her poop at me and now we are forever shit sisters or shitzters quote, So we were able to fling some money their way thanks
to the following sponsors. Okay, let's get back to that question, which was also asked by Chris Moore and Jesse Lorch. So, Yes, the strongest and biggest badonks And why would it be an elephant or would you say that there's another animal that has bigger hounches?
Well, my question is biggest bedonc to body size? Because I would sayigt bedonk to body size. When it comes to glute size and all that kind of stuff, I would say, humans are up there. Yes, there was a woman that I actually because I did a little bit of research that had a ninety nine inch hip circumference. Yeah, and that's a very very large bedonca who is very proud of it, and which I say, yes, yeah, be
very proud of that you made that. Yeah, because we have this fat specifically around the butt, and women specifically, that's where you get the real thickness, you know. Well.
Talia Dunyak wants to know do fish have a butt?
That's a great question. Fish, as far as I know, do not have a butt?
Yeah, And it's sad just yeah, I'm just they're buttless. Thimbawim wants to know which booty is best, wombat or Corgi. Dor B says corkiy butts versus French cheese. Is there a particular dog butt that you think is best or an animal butt that you find is best.
Look. I've seen a lot of Boston terriers poop, and I've never seen the look of almost shame in their eyes with the quivering legs as they poop. For some reason, A Boston Terrier really sticks out to me as having a very strong, lean butt with a very controlled pooping mechanism. I don't know, they really stand out to me for some reason. Corgi's their fur butt, the fact that they're wearing fur pants. I find it being really respectful. What
butts do I really get behind? When I did field work, we rode horses, and I always had the farting horse. I had Sababa, and yeah, she would fart a ton, and I always found that to be hilarious.
Mandy Smith, Daniel Donalden, Erica Gonzalez, Lulu Hall, Ashley Brown, Becky the Sassy Seagrass, scientist R. J. Deutsche, and Renee Parsonage. Who's the first time question asker everyone wanted to know? In Renee's words, why don't humans sniff each other's butts like dogs? Why don't we sniff it?
That's a very good question, funny enough, I just actually lectured about this today. Are decreased old faction senses. I think that probably has something to do with it. Our sense of smell is not what it, you know, has been in the past. Just trying to think of spider monkeys. If I've seen a lot of smelling of butts, I have seen it another non human primates. I watched two languors, which are columbines, these type of monkeys that you'll see.
These were from India specifically, but they were they were really playing with each other's tookises, lots of smelling, lots of finger and tasting, yeah, which I thought was kind of like, Okay, this is very intimate. And also let's be very clear again back to the butt cheeks and back to the crack. Our butthole is not really out and proud. You know. Again, if I want to I want to sniff someone's butt cheek, I gotta get in there. Yeah, it is not exposed like say a cat or a dog.
That's not to say if it was exposed, I would be up in it. I think it's a mixture of the decreased ol faction and also perhaps the lack of accessibility.
That makes some sense. I recognize yourn.
I'm not one hundred percent sure, and mean, we might not ever know the answer Ali, and there probably are. I mean, I don't want to king shame, but there's probably some people out there that that is their.
Thing, that one hundred percent yes, and nothing wrong with that if it makes sense to you now. This one was also asked by patrons Blind Novak, first time question asker Claudia Dana sam F Kidizerandi, Stephanie t and Renee Malara, Daisy Goldstein Cross and a few others wanted to know why the hair up in there?
Great question. Uh So, one of the thoughts of why we have hair between our butt cheeks is maybe to decrease the friction when we walk. Perhaps that makes it not as uncomfortable. We also have, you know, hair in kind of our our nooks and crannies, our armpits or pubis, So this might just be sort of a leftover, that's like why not. It's just and we all know that there's different very there's different varying degrees of how much hair.
I've seen some butts that I'm pretty sure I thought it was they had a sweater on their backside, And that's okay, point being yes, there are perhaps reasons to kind of again make it so it's not so you know, frictiony and sweaty and hair often you know, like that's why you have hair in your nose to kind of keep certain you know, bacteria and things out of there, not that there's a bunch of bacteria trying directly to get into your tookis. But you never can be Yeah.
I have a very specific question that is only applicable to one person, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Yes, beckup Rader wants to know. I may have spent too much time studying this, but why does one of my butt cheeks make a louder sound when it's slapped? The right one echoes for miles and the left one is just a dull thud? Is that normal for people to have a dominant butt cheek? And so if Juniper said, please do not overlook the genius of this question anyway it is.
It is so good. I wonder she doesn't mentioned if one's bigger than the other, does she? Okay, So, as the scientist in me is asking, okay, who's slapping? Are they slapping at the same spot? Are they slapping, you know, with the same amount of force, we need to do a real experiment with controls and everything and make sure that this is done right. And I think maybe we can reach out to her to see if we can
possibly do that. If she's comfortable with that. Yeah, because I don't know off the top of my head why.
We'll get our team on it and we'll touch base, we'll slap base. Oh okay, Kyle Pollock says, first time question asker, and I can't believe this is the first question I'm asking. I once saw a person who had a whole slash indentation at the top of their butt crack. What was up with that? And Ellie Radaje says, I have a butt in dent too, right at the top of the crack. Answers please First time commenter Emma, I might have.
A butt like I'm touching mine right now.
Yeah, I feel like my crack stops and then like starts again. And for a while I was like, did I have a tail that they removed?
Ali? Do you have a so I have a pronounced I was. I didn't bring it up because I didn't know if that's but my tailbone's too long, so I actually have I have I have a nubbin. I mean I know that songs. Oh that's great. I mean it's great, but it also it means sitting can be really painful, and also falling on my tailbone is really painful. But does yours feel like it projects or like, you know, it kind of projects out?
It just just like my butt crack says we're done. Well, yeah, okay, I guess that's the thing.
I will say again, Jackie Stallone. She seems to have some strong opinions about the cleft of one's butt.
You know me, Okay. Usually i'd wait for an aside to delve into further research, but Natalian and I were having a vulnerable moment and I needed to know if my butt was weird asap. Oh, it's called a sacral dimple. It's an indentation or a pit in the skin of the lower back above the crease between the buttocks. It's president birth. Yeah, it's a sacral dimple. It's I'm gonna say it's a sacred dimple. Thank you very much. Anyone wants to know what my bare butt looks like, it's a dimple.
I have butt dimples.
Yeah. I don't have any dimples on my actual butt, but I do have like back dimples.
Yeah, I mean that's what I meant, the ones that are on the right above it.
Yes, yes, it's called dimples of venus apparently, Yes, right, exactly so I don't know, maybe it's just you got back dimples, not that to worry about. Okay, So a sacral dimple is when you have a staccato butt crack that is like, hello, I'm not done, little more of me. And dimples of venus are the ones on the lower
back that look kind of like violin f holes. And I just learned that some people get dimples of venus sogically at it, which is flattering to me the same way that other people's perms are, because I had this shit from birth. Also, in researching the sacral dimples, though, I downloaded this medical study about what they can signify in terms of spinal development and newborns. And this week was really busy. I'm also getting a refie on my mortgage.
If you must know, interest rates are very low. Look into it, folks, and he who's I had to send a bunch of financial statements to the bank, and I was about to hit send, honestly, like a millisecond before, and I realized that one PDF I attached an email was not, in fact my tax returns from last year, but it was the PDF about baby's butt cracks, complete with a lot of full color clinical photos and tiny spread cheeks, and I have thought about it so often
since last week and I shudder every time, and at we can't. Let's move on, okay, So Mary Salato asks, So I have a booty, but I feel like it doesn't provide much cushion. It makes pants finding a pain. But I can still feel my pelvis question mark finding into the pavement when I pop a squat on the curb. What's even the point? So a lot of people wanted to know, like Kate Salvesin wants to know why do they hurt after sitting on them forever? Why do our
butts hurt? Other patrons had this question, including Zombat, Asia Jeger, Hate Salvesen, Rachel Amoson, Rachel Moore. Rachel, both of you have the word ache write in your name, let's talk about it.
So as far as the why does it hurt when you put your butt on the pavement? I wonder if they have a similar problem like I do in terms of the tailbone that for some reason, my cosics doesn't quite curve under.
The way it should.
It's like it sort of sticks out, so's it really serves no purpose? Like I have this booty, but then if I sit on someone's lap, they're immediately annoyed because they feel like they're being you know, stab, Yeah exactly, I trust me. I'm like, I've had enough people be like, ah, get off me. Yeah, you know, which does the response you usually want to get. But as far as why your butt will hurt over time, so there are reasons why.
I mean, sciatica is one of the big reasons why you have pain in pain in your butt.
Literally, Michelle Chick wants to know for some question, asker, if fat provides insulation, why does my well insulated in quotes, but get so much colder, so much sooner than the rest of my body when I go out for a walk on a chilly night. Any idea why butts can get so cold? Have you ever been like, yes, my butt cold and then it's freezing.
I think it's because, I mean, the core temp like your core, all the heat cut of stays in the core, like in your main cavity of organs, and your butt is kind of just let leftout to dry or get very cold. That's a great question.
We are not butt doctors.
And yeah, there's typically a significant layer of fat over the glutes. Fat is an active tissue that does not generate heat. Okay, so maybe the fat. Yeah, so fat also has very few blood vessels in it, so while you're running, circulation to your muscles increases, but not to your fat, that tissue would actually cool down when exposed to the cold.
Rude.
Oh wow, Okay, so that's okay, there we go. See all, I have a.
Few more lightning ground questions. A few people had questions in the Realm of Hannah Roch plainly sized butt sex. Why are humans into it? Are there other animals into it? Bryce, Ryan Clark, Malia Holland, and Ray Moore all asked other primates into that too.
Animals will put their ding dong in pretty much anything they can. It's pretty common to put your ding dong in many orifices, and yes, the butthole is one of them. I mean, then again, honestly, I've seen copulations in the field, but it's so far spider monkeys are so far up. I don't know what hole they're putting it in. I'm assuming it's the vagina, but I don't know. But we do see, for instance, a lot of homosexual activity in the animal kingdom. There's been at least fifteen hundred documented
species that have engaged in homosexual encounters. That doesn't necessarily mean again, like that they identify as gay. It just means, you know, again that it really demonstrates the fluidity of sexuality. For instance, lions will engage in a little spooting and sporking and forking of the same sex. And you'll see it in multiple species of animal, buffalo putting the buy and bison they'll go through usually phases or periods of time where they have a lot of homosexual encounters with
other male bison. So yeah, I mean, we're definitely not the only species that enjoys a little you know, rump action if you know what I mean.
That's yeah's wonderful to what a celebration. Just do what you want as long as it's a consensual situation. Do whatever you like.
Yeah, whatever feels good. Yeah, just you know, I mean, and I think for humans, just make sure you know everybody's consenting and lubrication is key, kids.
If you love it. A lot of people squatty potty questions is it slam or is it actually best? So many of you, including Jeffrey Bradshaw, Rachel Drips, Flint Leek Iberson, Kelly Brockenton, Sara Pezos, Miz Pie, Maggie Fraser, Christina Hernandez, and Lisa Ma.
That's a good question. No, seriously, I've you know, talked to a lot of doctors and you know, other biological anthropologists, and it's absolutely a much better way to do the pooping. Yeah, because it really does. I mean, I'm so I having done field work, I have popped squats all over the place, and even just living in New York City. That's not to say I poop on street corners, but you know, you get desperate and oh, look a corner, you will pee.
But for pooping, it really does. You do feel the difference when you're actually squatting versus sitting on a toilet. So yes, it kind of does that. It talks about unkinking the coal colon, it really does sort of allow the colon to have the proper flow to get the poop out. And also, I don't know about you, but like there's always those poops that you're like, that was like a one wiper, you know, I feel like they increase with the squaty potty where you're like, oh, that
wasn't messy and disgusting. I feel better. I'm maybe a little teami, but you know.
Hey, we're all friends here Friday nights. Amazing. That's so good. And you know what, I'm sure that if our dogs use toilets, they might need a little more help in that department, you know, right, Oh, okay. Final Patreon question was asked by sixteen people in this same exactly the same verbiage. Christina Tortorolo, Adam Smith, James Hale's Luke Veritie Mathis, Kelly Brockington, Nathan Algrim, Thimblewim Astrakhlithar, Mia Colerat, that American Claire.
I think some other people all want to know, is but legs?
I love your patron so much.
Apparently there's a lot of internet chatter started on Judge John Hodgman's podcast, and yeah, is butt legs?
I don't think butts are legs technically, because I think they're more part of the trunk. I mean like they're more I mean, like I see legs. So I that's funny that you say that. My best friend and I came up with a term when we were what twelve. We called it the bleg, and that's where the butt
meets the leg. So I call that the bleg. And so I feel like the legs begin at the bleg, which is where the butt technically ends, and the legs I feel like technically begin because I feel like, you know the fact that you know, the butt is still very much on the trunk. I don't know where your butt crack is. I mean everyone has, as Jacqueline Stallone has pointed out to me, varying great varying lengths and
wits of butt cracks. If I went where my butt crack ended, I mean, that's very much still my my my front butt, and I I'd like to think those that was not legs, you know what I mean.
So if you have a butt crack, just think of what's on the other side of it, through your body, and ask yourself, is that legs? Right? We have our answer. This is why Natalia is a gluteologist and we're not.
So I I personally am the believer that the butt is not legs, but the blag is a thing. Maybe the under boob is like the blag, you know, And I feel like black, I mean, you ember when it's like when I always wonder if like under boob became a thing in the side boob, and it's like you never see like underball becoming a thing or the the blag kind of true.
I feel like you need to have an action comedy called Grundlin Bleags, the Unsung Undercarriages.
Chowed McDaniels, Joe.
Green leg Sold, oh my god. And I always have to ask, although I can't imagine, but the worst thing about butts? What sucks butts?
I wish that I knew everything about but that's the thing that bothers me the most. That was like my biggest like sadness going into this this podcast was like, you know, I'm gonna get questions I don't know, and I'm going to feel like, well I ever get behind knowing everything about the behind.
You know.
I want to also bring attention to loving your butt no matter what you know. And we kind of touched on this a little bit before, but like, you know, the ass List and the ass full need to kind of come together and reach across the crack that separates us.
What about your favorite thing? What about your favorite thing about what you us to do?
Yeah? Oh gosh, well I love breaking things down where you know you can. I laugh every time I read a peer reviewed article even the ones that I really
shouldn't be laughing about. It's such an honor to be able to take the science that I know about and I'm learning about and will continue to learn about, and break it down in a way that will make people do a spittake and laugh because for me, that's that's key, because that's the way you kind of remember stuff, right And for me, like again, I think anthropology my field, is a really cool field because it really looks at what makes us human and what makes so unique compared
to other species, but also realizing we're not so unique after all, you know, but also using what we know about our species to kind of hopefully make us better people, you know, and just make us hopefully a little bit more tolerant and kind, especially when we look at things like human variation and stuff like that, whether it's the color of our skin, our sexuality, our gender, our butts, anything and everything, you know, kind of just sort of
boiling it down to make people realize that we're all just kind of I mean, in a way, we're all in this together, butts and all.
You know, Yeah, no if ants or butts, So ask smart people, not smart questions, because there's an expert for everything, and their knowledge might change the way you look at your own butt. So for more of Natalia Reagan, she is on Twitter and Instagram and Natalia thirteen Reagan She's on TikTok at Behold Natalia. There will also be links in the show notes to that and her website, as well as with donation. Went also links in the show
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Wars Books podcast which just came out. Nick Thorburn did the theme music. And if you stick around to the end, you know I tell you a secret. And I can't remember or if I've shared this, but it's a fun life fact to do. If it's someone's birthday, go ahead, before you see them, write the words happy and birthday on each butt cheek with a sharpie, and then at some point just casually moon them. They'll be so surprised and happy. This is especially useful for socially distanced celebrations.
The other secret I will tell you is that I am recording these asides in an idling car, an idling rental car just outside of Seattle, Washington. I'm here shooting Innovation Nation. The camera crew is setting up inside. I'm recording these before I shoot and sending them and then I'm.
Hopping a flight.
Please tell your butt it's beautiful for me, but not do it in a cute, nice way.
And not in a creepy way.
I'm not about that.
Okay, byebye pacadermatology, homeology, crypto zoology, lithology, technology, meteorology, batology, napology, seriology, elinology.
Mm hmmm, but dance again, like the rhythms down your pants now