¶ Podcast Updates and Listener Shoutouts
This week. Mark LeCore and Paige Wilson. This is the show for Oil and guests this week podcast brought to you by Cognite, AI for the industry. Optimize production and decrease operational risk with trustworthy AI across the oil fields. This is the show for busy old pros who want to quickly keep their finger on the pulse of the industry. Thanks for joining us for episode three hundred and ninety-one. It's really loud in here. It is really loud in here, Paige. Where are we? Uh the Hyatt downtown.
Houston. We are recording live Marquestro Optima twenty-five. We have spent half a day watching AI improve supply chain. And for everybody in the oil field, you know we need help with supply chain. So it's been a great conference so far. Uh a couple things to talk about. First thing is um I have accepted the gumbo challenge page. Oh, that's awesome. So for our four hundredth episode, we're gonna have a gumbo kickoff. That's gonna be sometime in the twenty twenty six first quarter.
What I need now is gumbo contested companies. We want about 10 people to compete. We're gonna raise money for a good charity. It's go to veterans. Um OGGN is in. I'm the cook for OGGN. And we have our buddies from down the bayou that challenged me on the tomatoes. They're another team. So I need eight companies that want to enter the gumbo contest. Reach out to me directly. I'll share the details with you.
And like I said, the money's to go to a veterans charity and you get the bragging rights if you win, which you won't, because I'm gonna win. Rock on. Second thing, we have doubled down on YouTube. Uh there is a link in the show notes of this podcast. I want you to click on that link. Watch the video of Paige and I recording the first video version of oil and gas this week. Comment on it.
Send me a screenshot of your comment and I will send you an OGGN pack. I will send you a hard hat laptop sticker and an OGGN Temporary Tac 2. Absolutely free of charge. So remember, simple. Click on the video link, leave a comment on the video, then take a screenshot, send it to me, and you will get the much sought after OGG and pack of goodness. Yeah. We have some other shout outs to give. Yeah, we do. We really do. You can go ahead and start this. So uh uh Villandea car uh arco in uh uh
Cabo uh Mexico. We had an amazing time. The staff there was incredible. The food was uh amazing. Everything was great. A couple of shout-outs. A big shout out to James Johnson. He's the one that tried to sell us. Uh uh a timeshare there. Honestly, everybody tried to sell us everything. From getting off the airplane all the way to the resort. But he was a good sport about it.
And Paige, you and I had one of the most incredible meals we've ever had. You wanna give a big shout out? Yeah, and thanks to Samuel and uh Chavula. Yep. This is at the Neptune Seafood Restaurant. Just amazing service. They took really great care of. So for the entire staff there at Villa Day Arco, thank you. Yes.
And we have a review. Uh we do. It's a five star uh off the beaten path. Have you have been listening for over a year? Your podcast provides quick in depth information about the energy complex. one has to spend time searching for and you guys cut that time down for me. I'm a small investor who takes some of your info and delves deeper into a subject. You'll make me think and make me a bit of dough along the way. Love Yellow takes off the beaten path of the usual info providers.
Besides, I like Paige's laugh. Speaking of that Paige, you know the video that we want people to comment on? Yeah. Have you read the reviews and the comments on there? There's a bunch of people uh that's in your corner about your laugh and your voice. Um
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you need to read some of the comments. Awesome. I'll check it out. But thanks uh to Jim from Arkansas. Yeah, and Jimmy AR, you know we do have a investing podcast, oil and gas investing podcast. It's one of our suite of shows. It's called Oil Ground Up. You might want to check it out.
¶ Kazakhstan's Future and Career Growth
All right, it is first Friday QA and as always we start off with Ludwig, which really didn't ask a question. He just said Veronica you rock You are welcome to our barbecue in Europe. Do you know who he's talking about? Yeah, I know exactly who I know exactly who Veronica A big shout out to Carol. Uh Veronica. Looks like you have uh fans all the way over in the Netherlands. And Veronica uh Luthwick is uh sight impaired. So um the fact that you rock means a lot.
Okay, I don't know what that had to do with anything. Let's get into the questions for real. Uh the first one comes from Jaris, uh production engineer at In EOS energy? Is that how you say that? That's a that's a long one. Hi, Market Page. Thanks for the podcast. I've listened since my studies and now eight years into my career, I'm from Kazakhstan, worked at S L B
uh Chevron production engineer now with my current company in Denmark, which you know, of course the North Sea. Two questions. What should Kazanstan focus on when the Tengins Concession with the uh Chevron Exxon N. You want to answer that first? What they really need to focus on is it's national stake in that project. Uh they need to make sure they try to enhance produ uh pr all pr all processing, not just production but processing.
especially domestically and they need to start diversifying their economy more. Um the government's already begun to position itself, I believe, with renegotiations with uh with Chevron. So there's a lot coming up to this, but if they can prioritize those two things, they'll be miles ahead. Especially if they start increasing the share of the state's profit. If I was negotiating this deal, that'd be one thing I would uh focus on first.
The second thing I would focus on is probably the uh ownership and operational control. And then probably lastly is I'd focus on domestic supply. But the negotiators of this deal, if I was in and I was in their place, I'd look at increasing the share of the profit. Awesome. All right. So the next one is uh given my background, what would your advice be for me in terms of long term career growth? Thanks again for your work. It really makes a difference for people like me around the world.
Yeah, you know what? A couple of things. You're a production engineer, which means uh you like doing very hard, complex things that are hard to explain to other non engineers. Exactly. So I would take some communication classes. A lot of production engineers I know are geniuses. But when they have to present to a group
of non-engineers, they struggle sometimes. And I I think that would go miles in your career. The other thing that I would look at doing is uh maybe taking some uh some public speech classes along with the the the education that would put you ahead of of almost everybody else in your space. Uh what is her name? Jaris. Jaris, yeah. So and if you know your other production engineers, you know what I just said is absolutely true.
All right. Um uh the next one is from Patrick. I am not Patrick Q. I'm not gonna even try I will absolutely butcher your last name, so we'll we'll just skip that. Uh who is a ring hand uh in production and workover at Hellman property.
¶ AI in Petrophysics and Produced Water
Um, I've been in oil field for eight years, worked as a well tester operator in North Dakota, Wyoming, Pennsylvania for three years snub for three months and got laid off due to oil and gas downturn twenty fifteen. I've been working as a rig hand in Long Beach, California for six years now. Uh also worked on oil and gas as well as for SoCal Gas Company. Is there any hope for California oil industry? Big corporations like California resources.
Corporation are abandoning a lot of wealth at Huntington Beach. Should I just leave the industry? So Patrick. I don't know. Um, if you would have asked me this three months ago, I would have said unfortunately yes. Um there's been some changes by the state government. However, uh p paige I saw today that Valero said nope, I don't care how much money you're throwing at us, we're pulling out of the state. Do you blame them? No. You can't. And I'm also not confident that
the governor and the state legislature is gonna really do something. They say they are. There's been some bills that were passed. I wanna see the rubber hit the road. So Patrick It's kind of up in the air right now. I will say this much, even if the industry comes back in California, which it will at some point, I don't think it's happening relatively soon. So you wanna may prep maybe prepare for s uh you know some some slow times in the pat
in California. I would say for the next two years, no matter what happens, and no matter who gets elected governor, no matter what happens with your legislature, I think around 2028 it's gonna come back. It's gonna come back strong because it has to. Hopefully that helped you, Patrick. All right, next up is uh Andreas Cansee, consultant petrophysicist. Uh at Indepth Petrophysics.
Hello and thanks for uh the great podcast. Quick note regarding the previous show the Equinor discovery is in the millions, not billions, with it be. So likely a tie in, not standalone field development. Norwegians also rename fields after the PDO using historical mythical geographical references, e.g. troll. The Dutch are more pragmatic using uh rather letter and numbers.
So his question is, how do you see AI and new technologies shaping the role of petrophysicists over the next decade? Keep turning it to the right. Yeah, it's um I I think the the world of a petrophysicist could be changed dramatically. Not think I know. It's happening right now. If you're in that space, right now you're really a data analyst, no matter what anybody else says and no matter how advanced your degree, and you spend a lot of time scrubbing bad data so you can make good predictions.
I think in the future with AI, you're not gonna have to do that. So you end up having a job that's more high-level data manager and interpreter than a data analyst. I think you see a lot of automated workflows. I think a lot of the repetitive stuff like scrub and excel spreadsheets will be handled by AI. And I think this will actually free you up to do what you're good at. Um once again, um there's gonna be other uh Learnings from the introduction to AI and to into petrophysics
Uh there's probably some hybrid skill sets that we don't even know what it is yet. But I think you I think that's where that role is gonna go. And I think petrophysics is one of the areas that's gonna be changed the quickest and the most by A, but it's to be changed for the good. Yeah. Thanks for the question. All right, next up is from Carl. Carl is an uh new is into nuclear engineering.
What is your solution to produce water? Deep disposal gives earthquakes and after the twenty twenty three approved shallow has plenty of drawbacks, including legacy wells and drinking water. Yeah, so Carl, a couple of things. The solution to produce water is going to be the market. There are several big companies that have a track record of doing amazing things with a whole bunch of patents in their name that are looking at using produced water to mine valuable minerals. Um in the lab it works.
Uh we have yet to see that it works at any type of scale in the field, but I have confidence that it will and that is gonna be the solution to produce water. Produce water is gonna go from being a waste product that has a cost
and a a risk associated with it and disposing of it to be in a valuable product and the then the product will and the problem that we have with produced water will just go away. It's gonna take a little while, it's about a decade away, but that is absolutely where that is going. Uh and by the way, Carl, I'm a huge fan of nuclear energy, so it's cool that you're in nuclear engineering. Curious if you were a submariner or not. If uh you feel like letting me know, let me know.
Okay, next one is from Christina B. Dear OGG and team, your work has transformed how the global energy community connects. And I'm impressed by the impact you make.
¶ Oil Price Forecast and Industry Culture
I'd like to introduce the Rice Energy Finance Summit 2025, Houston's premier student-led energy finance conference taking place November 14th at Rice University. The theme is the Convergence Point. Where energy systems technology and capital collide. Please let me know if you'd like additional details, which we will be attending, right? Yeah. She was such
a fan of what you and I do on this show. She literally fangirled out. She's super bright. She works for the company everybody says I have a love affair with. Uh oh, Xline. And but I mean so so you and I will be there. So for everybody that's listening, if you're gonna be at the Rice University uh event on uh November fourteenth, Paige and I will be there doing a live podcast just like this. Make sure you come by and say hi. Okay, next up we have uh Linda Gee.
President at Berkeley Oil and Gas, that's awesome. Uh in the most recent podcast on september fifteenth, twenty twenty five, Mark shared that uh despite the current announcement The layoffs, retraction of rigged and fracked crews, he believes oil prices would recover in the world. Uh quarter one, quarty two, twenty twenty six, two levels above the current low.
uh sixty dollars. Uh can he speak to more more to this and tell us thought process around this. I'm not making investment decisions on his predictions, just curious what he thinks about this. So, Linda, thanks for the caveat. As we grow, and now that we have attorneys, I have to caveat everything. It's a pain in the butt. So please don't make investment decisions. on anything I'm about to say. So a couple of things. I was wrong about ending the war in Russia and Ukraine.
Um a lot of analysts, myself included, I'm not an analyst by the way. Um a lot of people predicted that oil would come back on market and and have keep the oversupply there, which would keep prices low. Um it's not gonna happen. I don't I don't see it happening any time soon. I don't know what's going on with Russia and Ukraine, but my belief that the war was gonna end, um, is was wrong. I was completely wrong.
Um the other thing, the bigger thing though is in the last five years, we've done no drilling, almost no drilling of new wells. We had come out of the pandemic, we had an oversupply of drilled but uncompleted wells, duck Uh we have now complete those wells, gone in production with them. Um gap, this this huge gap of wells that should have been drilled. We drill wells all the time to take the place of the decline curves of either conventional wells or unconventional wells.
Um so the other thing is look at the money it's being spent. Since the pandemic, since 2020, industry wide, nobody's spending large sums of money on the expiration of production. They didn't need to because all the ducks that were there. Then um the other thing is uh the demand from emerging economies, think China, India, stuff like that. I think a lot of the analysts are underestimating the growth in that demand. So
In a nutshell, I think all prices will rise by the second quarter of next year because there's not enough wells to uh backfill the production that's needed. And I think our oversupply that we're sitting on now will disappear actually rather quickly. So the market keeps being obsessed about this glut that's on the market, and there is a glut. But what I what I don't think they understand is how this industry actually works.
So that's why I think all prices will go up. Uh we'll see. We we got we got a few months and we'll figure out if I'm right or I'm wrong. Yeah. Hey, when are you putting out your uh predictions? It'll be November. So uh it's linear in a couple of weeks. In a couple of weeks, yeah. Okay, sweet.
All right, uh next up we have uh question from Alina Miro, management and energy transfer. Hi Mark, I just listened to the show and heard that Cognite will be hosting a mixer in Midland. I'd love to attend. Can I get an invite? Alina, Marrow, your invite is on the way. Thanks for sending me your email address. And by the way, invite your friends. We would love to have as many people from Ms. Transfer as possible. Yeah. All right. See what happens? You listen to the show?
Um, okay. Uh next up is from Ro Roy Stovall, which I believe is written in a couple times. Inve uh retired and an investor. Fun suggestion. Number one, solicit nominees for the best half dozen ever movies about oil and gas. Each nomination should include two to three sentences about why the film is worthwhile. I can think of several off the top of my mind. Two solicit nominations for the best book.
Written about oil and gas. I nominate the prize by Dan Jurgen as number one. Can nominate a few other same rules, thirty-four sentences describing the book's merits. I have a ton of books. So Roy, I I like your idea and it's since you're retired, let me ask you this, Roy,'cause you have written in several times, so I know you're a longtime listener. Would you be opening to be a judge on this contest if we did it?'Cause I love the idea.
I need some judges though. I need a couple of people to judge this. So Roy, reach back out to me. Uh let me know if you'd be willing to be a judge. And if not, that's okay. Um, but if we take your idea and use it, I will give you full credit'cause this would be a fun thing to actually do. All right. Oh man, we've got a novel next, uh which is coming from Connor McShane, which is a uh
So you at Florida State University. Um Hi Mark. I hope you're doing well. I just finished listening to your latest episode. I found the point you made about the US L and G having to become more competitive due to the Russian and Chinese alliance to be extremely interesting and highly relevant to a project I worked on on a US based midstream LNG exporter back in March.
Uh, I'm a second year student majoring in finance and a minor in geology at Florida State University, originally from Fort Lauderdale. Uh during my time at Florida State I have become involved in various classes and clubs which have allowed me to be uh explore the field and develop an interest in oil and gas and basement You can basically stop that investment banking the last couple of sentences.
I understand that things are ramping up for the year and you're going to be traveling to various conferences you've mentioned on your podcast. However, if you have some time to chat on the phone in the coming weeks, I would love to get on a quick call, introduce myself and learn more about your journey as well as your experiences. I'd also appreciate any advice you may have on breaking into the industry.
So Connor,'cause I know you're listening, by the time you hear this, you and I have already talked. I have scheduled a call to Connor. Uh people, I'm extremely busy. Um, I have a company to run, but if you're a learn per young person like Connor that's looking for help breaking an industry or just want to pick my brain about stuff, reach out.
If I can fit you in my schedule, I will. I have a passion for helping young people realize how wonderful an industry this is. And I'm always willing to chat. Just gotta get it in my calendar. It's trust me, it's difficult'cause I I barely fit in his calendar. Anyway, next next up we have oh This guy, Byron Fruge, Vice President onwards.
Hey Market Page, love the show. I have two questions. With all the negativity about our industry that's pumped out by the media and our education system, what's one cultural shift you think oil and gas still needs to make? Attract the next person t of talent. Two, do you really believe it's okay to put tomatoes in gumbo? Now, Byron, we've had this conversation. We've had this conversation.
I can put tomatoes in gumbo, right? It's it's I make I I grew up making a traditional cage in gumbo. Um I make a roux, right? However, but there's ways to change things. And so one of the things I change is I actually put tomatoes in the gumbo. I also don't cook my vegetables until they disappear. I want that texture in there. So speaking of texture Josh, you want to come on the mic? You want to say something? So anybody if you've ever heard my story, how I entered the oil and gas industry.
I entered an oil and gas industry when I worked for the phone company a million years ago, Bell South, and I met this lowly procurement guy at CVX. Um, and we become friends. And He's actually here. He actually was on stage doing a uh uh a little discussion about how Chevron's using Arques' tool. And so, Josh, I'm just gonna let you step into the middle of the show. You got two million people, Gary, listen to what you have to say.
You're the one walked up here and making fun of me with the tomatoes in the gumbo. I'm not sure I would uh put tomatoes in the gumbo. That's not that's not the food is worth So you and I have negotiated, I don't even want to say the dollar amount of deals in our in our relationship together. How about you and I place a little bet?
And you come to our gumbo cook-off for our 40th episode and you taste my gumbo. And if you don't think it's in the top 10% of all the gumbos at that contest, I'll buy you dinner. All in. Done deal. Dude, you were great on the stage today. Oh, thanks a lot. Yeah. And so uh more comments about my shoes than my than my uh price'cause I was wearing, you know, tennis shoes. I like the shoes. Actually, I think they look good with the suit. Yeah.
All right, so Josh, we need to finish the show. Thank you for stepping in. My pleasure. Yeah. Hey Josh. Where are we? I got so we sidetracked. Oh it it was bi uh we're talking about Byron. And and that's when Josh was just like tomatoes and gumbo and so let me let me answer Byron's question. What culture shifted does the oil and gas industry need to to check the to attract this next generation of talent? I think we need to get completely away.
from how great our retirement packages are and you work at a job that sometimes is rough on you, but your goal is to get to that twenty year mark and retire and then enjoy life. I think we made a cultural shift where we made day-to-day work enjoyable. So you enjoy your job now. That one thing would attract people. The other thing, Byron, that you may not know, is that I've own a market research company and we've been tracking negative public perception with our world's young people.
Um and it for the first time since we've been doing this, it's actually declining. So more young people are positive about our industry now than they were last year. And that trend's been going on since the pandemic.
So there's a lot of hope for our industry. A lot of young people um see the benefits of our industry and think it's cool to come work in. We just have to make sure we keep that momentum going. And I'm going to win the gumbo cook off. What are you doing? Are you doing your seafood or your uh chicken and sausage? I'm probably I I'm actually probably gonna try to make both. And that way I'm entered twice and I have twice the chance to win. It's a statistical approach. Okay.
Doesn't seem fair, but I'll go with it.
¶ Navigating Industry Layoffs and Transitions
All right, last one is from Trisha Montgomery, which is a senior project manager at Trendsetter Engineering. I feel like she's written in before too. That name looks familiar. It does. It really does. Mark and Page, absolutely love the show. With all the layups uh layoffs happening in the industry, do you have any advice for people that have recently been laid off? Are they better off looking in the industry, outside the industry, somewhere else? And page that commenter that said
They didn't like your voice as hearing problems keep turning it to the right. Thank you. So Tricia, a couple of things. Don't even worry about the oil and gas industry. And and my heart goes out to everybody that's lost their jobs. I never want to see anybody stress out about that. I Paige and I both have been laid off. We know exactly what it feels like. It's not a good place to be. But in today's modern world,
At some point, I don't care who you're working for, you're gonna end up being a number on an Excel spreadsheet. And if the number isn't crunched right, you're gonna be let go. Uh the culture of business has changed. The profitability has changed. You no longer can go work for a company that protects you for your entire career. So I think everybody should have something on the side.
Now whether that is a a a side business like investing real estate or whatever, or just a skill set or a trade. You know, if you're um an accountant, it's not that difficult to go pick up a skill trade like Weldy. I know it sounds crazy. But if you're a certified TIG welder right now in the US, you have m hundreds of job opportunities and you could easily make you know six figures plus.
Um if you're in the oil and gas industry and you and you're uh you're in a a a position that uh crosses other industries, once again like accounting, HR, legal, um, big data analytics. Make sure that even while your job is going well in oil and gas, that you talk to other people outside the industry. And then finally, think outside the box. So uh no matter what you do in the oil and gas space, if you've been laid off, remember the big tech companies right now
revenue is not connected to the price of barrel oil. So Microsoft, Salesforce, Oracle, uh, Amazon, they all have dedicated oil and gas sales teams because they're trying to get Chevron and Exxon and Haliburton to buy their stuff. They understand their technology. What they don't understand is the industry. So they hire domain expertise and they don't just hire data scientists. They hire project accountants, project managers, petroleum engineers, geophysicists.
So think about where your skill sets, even though you've been laid off, is rare. So if you're a project accountant and you've been laid off, there's unfortunately thousands of other project accountants has been laid off in the oil and gas space. Do you know how many oil and gas project accountants are fighting for a job at Amazon? Probably almost none, right? So you'd go from one of many trying to find a job in oil and gas to one of one going to the tech companies.
So that would be my advice to you. Have something on the side always, even if it's a hobby, something you can convert to revenue rather quickly. And then Think outside the box. And uh Trisha, um hopefully you're not one of those people that have lost their job. My heart, Paige and I both, it really does go out to everybody that's suffering right now. We've been through it, we know what it's like, and if we can help, we're busy, but reach out. If we can help, we'll do it.
Yeah, been been there several several times. Me too, unfortunately. The worst thing about it is you have all of a sudden you all this free time but you're scared about money. So you don't you don't go do anything'cause you don't know when your next checks could be hit the bank. Yeah.
Yeah, and then, you know, supporting an entire family. Yeah. And self esteem. Um, for y'all for for those of y'all have been laid off and have been looking for a while, keep your chin up. I promise you it always gets better, but I know how demoralizing it is to go mutts without finding a good good gig.
Yeah, yeah. I mean shoot, I was laid off and d while was I started doing this. So this is what that's what saved me. Uh I'm not saying go start your own podcast network, but not a bad idea. But not a bad idea.
¶ AI Mixer, History, and OGGN News
All right, what we got? We have uh this week in petroleum history, don't we, Mark? Yeah, but before we get there, speaking of AI, you know AI can make a huge difference in energy, boosting productivity and safety across the board.
But to get it up and running is actually hard. And there's so much hype from the vendors that you don't always know where you should start. It's easy. Reach out to Cognite, tell them all and gas this week, send them. They will take care of you. They will not try to sell you anything. And if you're in the middle of Odessa area, November 18th, we're doing one of our mixers focused on AI. We have some operators, we have a service company, we have some experts from Cognite.
And if you have no idea what AI is, you don't need to be worried about that. Come to our mixer and we're gonna start with the basics. It's gonna be a fun time, food, drinks, prizes, and you'll get to learn about AI from the experts. Love to have you come meet us out there. Uh and you're right, Paige, that is this week in petroleum history. So, um October twenty seventh, seventeen sixty three.
Pioneer American geologist William McClure, who would become very renowned, as he's one of the first stratigraphers out there. He created the earliest. Geological maps of North America in eighteen oh nine. Isn't that crazy? He did all that with pencil, paper, and measuring tapes. Wow. Yeah. Then uh October 2026. The first tubular goods standards was formed. There was a shortage of drilling equipment during World War I. And what happened is we needed uh standard sized tubular.
So the American Patrol Institute, API, was started to actually standardize the first tubulars. Crazy that's related to World War One. Then October thirteenth, US Oil and Gas Association was founded in Oklahoma. Uh then they it was changed to the Mid Connet Oil and Gas Association headquartered in Tulsa. And then that happened six months uh uh after the US entered World War One. Um crazy stuff here. And then finally, in September, I'm sorry, October 5th in 2000 September, October 5th, woo, 2006.
Uh a roughneck statue was dedicated at Signal Hill. Now if you've never seen it, it's a huge bronze uh statue of a roughneck and it was uh erected near uh the uh well number one uh in California which was drilled in nineteen twenty one. So that's this week in petroleum history. Next thing I want to make sure is that all of you other listeners sign up for all of our stuff. OG Jean is growing as we have been. We have new podcasts coming.
We have podcasts coming that you may not even associate with OGGN. The best way to learn about those is go join our LinkedIn community. Just go to LinkedIn and go uh follow our LinkedIn page. Also, if you're looking for oil and gas merch, we have the number one oil and gas merch store on the planet. So go check it out. Our baby clothes are our best seller. Uh rig count page, where are we? Sorry, I was looking at our YouTube comments.
Okay, so the US is up two at five hundred and fifty. Uh Canada's up one at one ninety nine and uh internationally we're up eight at ten eighty four. Like those numbers. Uh, if you like myself or any of our experts to come to your event, uh uh deliver a keynote, talk to your all-gas sales and marketing association, uh bring a live podcast to your event like we did here, reach out to us, happy to share the details.
We just finished First Friday QA. Go to the website. You can enter a question. Remember the goal is not to stump Paige and I. The goal is to help educate your peers that listen to the show. If you uh enter a question that we use on the air, you will get a huge shout out. Things are coming down. The bar is open. I say we close this thing out. All right, let's do it. Remember folks, do great work, pay it forward, and we will see you next time.
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