¶ Reviewing Red Eye
Welcome to the Obrother podcast . I'm your host , dan Smith . Alongside me , as always , my brother from the same mother , mike Smith . How's it going , dan ? It's Halloween fest . It's going good , man , rolling on with the Halloween fest , rolling on , got the sweet , sweet Halloween fest . This is definitely the best mug thus far , and you'll notice mine's different .
Yes , it is different . I've got at OHB podcast Halloween fest .
But we also got . Well , I've got , this is so . I know my name .
We've got our . We've got our names on .
Yeah , you got to make sure yeah . Yeah , Like you know , in the middle of the thing , I'm like , yeah , this is Mike .
Yeah , because , God forbid , it's , you know , been tainted or something . So , listen , we're going to do this review on the movie Red Eye , which came out August 19 , 2005 . Now , before we get into this , you know we're we try to be very straightforward , very honest on the show very transparent right With our listeners and our viewers .
So tonight will be no exception . So we've got to talk about the impetus behind this whole episode , which was a huge sibling dispute that took place at the end of recording our last episode . Yeah Right , so you had thrown out there , because you brought this up , I think , a few times before .
I brought it up before at least once , I think before Halloween fest you'd brought it up .
I did .
Yeah , Do it just as a review . And then you brought it up and we got into this huge beef about . I didn't want to do it because I didn't think it was a horror . It didn't fit the theme of Halloween fest right . And you were pretty adamant . Now what I discovered .
But wait , let me , I don't want to get ahead of ourselves , so we get into this shouting match . Here we are like in this very space , exactly .
And you were like this red , red .
We should have been recording because it would have been magic . But , yeah , we , you know , you , you did what you typically do , which is , you know , infuriate me even more than I already am by doing something . Correct and you even pointed it out .
So Mike says you know , look , you're being aggressive and I'm just kind of I'm here and I'm being calm and I just went like zero to 60 . You went off , I was beat red , the veins were popping .
That's the first time I felt like I got hung up on in this generation of cell phones . Because you know this isn't hanging up , but slamming the thing down .
That's how you know , and I did the old , like we were like I'm done with you and let's be done . I threw the headphones down and I might have said some expletives when we got off the air . I think there were some expletives and you were probably like dude , dude , dude , go about your life .
Yeah , I'm just putting stuff away .
So then , very quickly , it didn't take very long , like it took at least overnight and then sometime in the early wee hours of the morning , I said to myself , okay , just like the strike that's going on right now in Hollywood . I said , okay , at some point this has got to get resolved .
If for no other reason , then we've got three production assistants that are counting on graduating , you know , based on the continuation of the podcast . So , and then you know , look , we've been through bigger beefs before . It's been a while . This was a good one , but have we ever gotten physically ?
I don't think we have no , no , but you've threatened me a few times . I couple couple threats are older brother and I had a physical oh yeah , a couple , couple threats of physical harm to your younger sibling , but yeah , you know it might have been child services involved , but that's a whole other podcast .
So I sent you an email , you know , apologizing , acknowledging that I flew off the handle , you know . And and then you , very graciously , you didn't have to , but you graciously now is not concerned , but hours went by . Yeah , I didn't see the email till like the next night .
Yeah , it was like 945 at night , right , and I wrote to you . I just got this . You're probably thinking I was ignoring you , right ? But I wasn't Right .
And then you went on to respond in kind , and here we are .
Yeah , I made kind of some points why ? Because we got into a beef so quick . Yes , you never got to hear my argument . I wish you why .
I know and this is the thing I wish that you had led with this Right , because it might have , you know , kept me a little bit more sane , which was the fact that Red Eye was directed , of course , by Wes Craven Right Famous for Scream , famous for Freddie .
Freddie correct . Yeah , that alone I thought was enough , but it does border . You know , we've had this discussion before , whether or not it's horror or thriller or action with . Jaws . We had a big discussion . We did and I think most people came down with horror on it With Jaws . Yeah , like we did , we didn't , we didn't . We thought thriller Right .
Suspense thriller , you know .
Interestingly , now you have the digital copy of Red Eye Correct , and this is Rachel McAdams' third movie .
I think I confuse her just because of the name and I think of Amy Adams .
Yeah , you know , when I think of Rachel McAdams , I think of her kissing Ryan Gosling and I think at the time they really weren't too keen on the job .
Oh , no , hold on , because it's a movie . I haven't seen you talk about the notebook .
Yes , oh , you have not seen that , that just wasn't one that I was interested in seeing Now .
so , yeah , I was very resistant , of course , right , and I think if you had said Wes Craven right off the bat , I would have been open . I don't know if I still would have disputed it or argued it , but I still stand by my claim , which is not a horror film .
Well , it's not a horror film . It's not a horror film .
According to IMDB , it's a thriller and that's exactly what it is . And you know , we could lay down a definition of horror and all of that to differentiate .
Right , but let me tell you one thing about it Go for it , because you don't have the commentary .
No , yeah , and you asked me about this .
I don't know if you had the , the featureettes or anything from YouTube , so I got to watch all the extras and and almost every extra , he would switch from thriller to horror . And I'll give you a couple of examples .
I'll give you one . I was going to say what do you mean by that ?
He was describing the movie Wes Craven . You're talking about . Yes , this is Wes Craven , the director , who really everybody knows as a horror director First , and they literally wanted him because he was . They wanted an edge to this film , which it does have Now . In the extras and on the commentary he flips and goes back and forth Like there's one shot .
This is a red eye for people who don't know because they're not as common as they used to be Is when you take a flight overnight . You get in in the morning . They call it a red eye .
You sleep on the plane and you don't really have enough time to get a full sleep , right ?
So there's a shot with the plane in the air and they really flew for some of this movie it wasn't just a set . And he said you know , this is what makes this a horror movie is they're in a plane , it's inescapable .
¶ Discussion on the Film "Red Eye"
There's an evil guy , there's a girl in distress , and he went on to kind of describe the elements of horror .
Yeah , See , I don't . I hear what you're saying , but I still I disagree with that . I think it's still as a thriller , Hitchcock . Would you consider Hitchcock horror ? No , you wouldn't . You consider it psychological thriller and that's exactly the same thing you just described . There's a trap , there's a guy .
There's a this , like the birds , I would call horror . I think there has to be . Psycho . The first time I saw psycho , I had trouble taking showers .
Well , but there's the point there was nothing like that in red eye . There was nothing like that . Now let's give this an opposite to the film . For those who may not have seen it because , again , I hadn't seen it , I well , I saw it . No , I only saw little bits of it . I don't Okay , and I don't think I might have saw it in a theater .
It's just been so long I don't remember . But anyways but give us quick synopsis .
So Rachel McAdams works for a hotel . I guess she would call Killian Murphy a businessman . They kind of meet at the gate getting on the plane and they have a little interaction where there's a guy that's kind of a jerk and she tells them hey , you know , come . And then he drops in it says come on . Trying to diffuse the situation it's not going to .
And then , lo and behold , he invites her to have a drink . She says no and and he says , well , I'll be at the bar in case you change your mind . She winds up getting bumped into something spilled on her . She changes her shirt and she kind of has a change of heart . She sees him sitting at the bar and she goes over and has a drink with them .
They have the drink and , coincidental , coincidental , she gets on the plane . She's looking for a seat right next to Killian Murphy . Just a coincidence .
Right , okay , but what you left out was like the majority of the synopsis , which is there is a he's working for some , you know , assassin some syndicate Correct , he's got himself in hot water . They're trying to put a hit out on what was his . He was a chief , I think a senator or homeland security .
Exactly , he was like the defense secretary , correct , that is what it was .
Exactly Right , keith was his name . Keith , I think , yes , was the character's name yes , and and . Okay , so let's . So they've got to pull this off right . Killian has to get Rachel McAdams character , lisa .
I think it is to switch Keef out of the room that he's booked in at the hotel into another room that , I guess , has a better vantage point for the guys out on a boat on the ocean to send up a surface to air missile to kill the defense secretary . This is what we're dealing with , right ?
It was very much like the rock , like it had those kind of vibes , you know , and I thought it was a little bit better than that . The motive was so weak Okay so . Lisa's the only one that can get this done . They got to get her on a plane and force , you know , threaten to kill her father . You didn't even mention that , brian Cox .
In fact , let's rewind the tape for a second , okay . We said directed by Wes Craven , written by Carl Ellsworth in a story based on Carl Ellsworth and Dan Fuss who wrote it together . The cast Rachel McAdams .
We said Kili and Murphy , of course , most recently of Oppenheimer fame , the great Brian Cox , who we've been talking about with , you know , just wrapping up Succession , the series on Max . I love him at Braveheart .
Yet when you see him he looks so different . Right , this is after born supremacy . By the way , he's so thin , he drops . He dropped 60 pounds .
Yeah , he's so thin . He had like reddish hair and just looked different . You know , there's a young , there's a girl that plays like a desk attendant that Lisa is in communication with throughout the film played by Jamea Mays , who she's so much more recognizable than I think , which is she was in Paul Blart Mall Cop with Kevin James .
I don't remember that she was in Bill and Ted I think the most recent Bill and Ted movie , Don't remember that and there was some other , there was some others , but actually there was a lot of , like you know what I would consider sitcom type character actors in the opening sequence of the film , which is , as you pointed out , at the airport .
Every A-hole annoying character you could think of at an actual airport is in the casting of this film . They got that right .
They captured that accurately Right right .
But I just didn't buy that . She's the only one that can make this thing happen . You know they well . They couldn't have just gone on the premises and forced someone to move him out of the room . There are certain elements , though .
She knew this secretary of state or whatever he was , the defense secretary , the defense secretary , so she could legitimately move him and he could say well , and they wouldn't question it because , of course , given his status right , you got to sweep of the room . Exactly .
You can't just have a change of plans like that .
So in fact they were gonna go to a different hotel and the guy said well , what's going on ? Who said this ? And when he's ? When she says Lisa , he goes . Well , I know her , it's okay , it was so stupid .
There was every trope in the book , in this film it was . Oh you know , honey , let's go . The kids are tired , let's just go to this other room . Yeah , I'm sure it's fine . What harm could come to the family if we move ? You know , it was so kind of insane .
But that was the first problem I had with it and honestly , the only thing about this film that I felt was even in the horror genre was the soundtrack , the soundtrack was clearly West Graven . The soundtrack was Marco Bertrami Did the score . It was really good .
I think he's done a Scream score . Craven's directing was really good .
And you know he's really great , of course , at building suspense Right and that was good . The acting was really good between Rachel McAdams and Killian no argument there . I thought they had great chemistry . They had great chemistry . She was fantastic . I mean , she had to go through a lot of different kind of emotions and throughout the thing .
Yeah , like breaking down crying and then having , like she's , in the bathroom .
Yeah .
And she just falls to the floor , which I wouldn't recommend in any airline bathroom . Killian Murphy , I thought you know , just with a look and with a gesture he could change the tone , I mean I thought when they were sitting together and we don't discover this plot until well into it . It took a while to get into it .
It's about 25 minutes into the film before there's any feeling of suspense whatsoever . I agree and honestly , mike , for the first 20 of those minutes I'm like is this a rom-com ? Which now it was , because there was so many over the top silly characters in the airport , the spilling of a drink on her blouse and all that stupid stuff .
But I think , in defense of Craven in the film and the writers , I think they were going to such an extreme so that the suspense would be even more impactful when it came . I agree , but it had me questioning the film the first half hour .
Well , there was one instance where that thing got spilled on her . It was like a mochicina or something like that . Right , and she goes in the bathroom and she takes off her shirt and guys are like , yeah , and then all of a sudden , you see this , what guys are ?
oh yeah , well , that's how , west Craven , there was no guys in the bathroom . It's well , no the audience .
I'm talking about the audience . The audience is like whoa yeah , how do you know ?
the audience was like whoa Well , because rest .
This is I'm quoting West Craven .
Oh , I see from the feature of the extras on the dish Exactly so he said you know Make sure you put that in context , please .
Right , he said you know , the guys in the theater go from ooh to oh Because she has a scar . Correct , and there's a story behind that scar . She was actually raped or physically abused .
Right , there was some past trauma , a clear Correct which was setting up , doing nothing but setting up the fact , like , did she have to go through that for us to believe she was an ass kicker ? I don't , I get it , but it was a little lazy . I felt like , yeah , it was a little unnecessary .
I didn't really , you know , I think I liked , and you're right , there was people like the one guy that was over the top they were all crew members , by the way that was like hey , why don't you be the annoying guy , why don't you be the annoying woman ? Oh , on the plane you mean . Yes . Like remember the woman you know .
At the end she says you know , take this and stick it up your ass . You know that was the . That woman was like a producer .
Well , actually Rachel McAdams said that at the very end .
Yeah , that's what I did .
I say it wrong . No , you said some other , you didn't say no , she was saying it to this woman , oh right , right , who was actually a producer ? It was a couple that were at the beginning of the film or complaining about not getting away . Some entitled couple , exactly which ?
Again , the husband of that couple , very well-known character actor from , I forget , like MASH or something like that back in the day , but For me , but hold on , yeah , go ahead .
You know here they are sitting in this seat , right , and you know the whole thing is that Lisa okay , the character of Lisa has to make this phone call to the hotel , right , to get her employee to make the switch .
Right .
And it keeps getting delayed , the cell service , whatever goes out , the plane , and all again , all these tropes , yeah . And then at one point she keeps trying to of course foil the plot , you know , and at one point Killian Murphy's character , jr Jack Rippington or something , jack the Rippington . Same initials as her dad Right , unnecessary Headbutt , sir .
Nobody on the planes notices that yeah , a full on headbutt .
Yeah , nobody picks up on that .
There was two headbutts , you're telling me if Mike is sitting behind this couple or in front ? The OCD isn't gonna kick in . You're not gonna tell these two to shut up .
Come on I bought the little small talk and the coincidence . I really until he says on the plane and I don't wanna spoil a movie because a lot of people probably haven't seen it .
Just throw a spoiler alert up there . Go for it .
But yeah , this is just a brief spoiler alert . It takes a real hard left .
Yeah , killian was very sort of slowly saying things that you know line by line . It slowly became revealed that how do you know these personal , intimate details about ?
my life .
Right , one of which was her father's name and her address , it turns out , you know .
He starts then really revealing Right , it's something's up , something's up and the one time , like when they're at the bar , at the very beginning , he says you're a sea breeze right , Bay breeze , Bay breeze . And she says I love a sea breeze .
Yeah right .
And there's one point on the plane where he's so aggravating he goes . I've watched you for eight weeks and you never ordered anything but a bay breeze Right right , you know , this was a little weird , yeah .
You know what is it . This is a little pet peeve of mine , a completely irrelevant point . But why Now ? Granted , this is 18 years ago this film came out . Yeah , but even today ? Why can they not get Photoshop pictures and movies to look believable ?
Which is what he's talking about .
In the very beginning of the film , she's on the phone with Brian Cox , her father , and he's been remodeling the house and he says I haven't touched your room , of course it's still in case you wanna visit , and all of this , like parents do . And there's photos they , you know , craving kinda pans . And you see photos of her which total foreshadowing .
Right , there's one of her playing field hockey , yes , Right , and then the field hockey stick comes into play later in the film . But like her face on the whoever was playing field hockey in that photograph is just so Well , no , those were actual .
Wes Craven said those were actual pictures of her .
No , they weren't .
As a kid .
No , they weren't . Well , maybe a few of them were yeah , not the ones I'm talking about , I think . Yeah , I agree , it was probably mixed in
¶ Discussion on the Film Red Eye
Now .
the point was to show that she was capable of the kind of athleticism it was gonna take at the end of the movie .
Correct , correct , but I feel like the audiences are smarter than that . We didn't necessarily need that much setup , but anyways , let me go back to some of the fact sheet here , which is the budget at the time , 26 million it opened . It earned about $16 million in the opening weekend . It went on to gross $58 million in the US , worldwide almost $100 million .
So it's definitely a success , and especially when you consider the other films that were out in 2005 , star Wars , episode III , anybody , wow , wow . Revenge of the Sith right , I didn't do that kind of dive . That's a Star Wars . It's right up there with Mike's favorite Star Wars films Harry Potter , goblet of Fire was out .
War of the Worlds , wedding Crashers , which Rachel McAdams was also in that same year .
Wedding Crashers yes , she was in four films in a little over a year .
Batman Begins , which Killian Murphy was in that same year . That's right so , and if you look at the earnings , like Box Office Mojo , you'll see that Red Eye's way way down yeah , at the bottom , but relatively speaking it was a successful film .
Right given the budget and her career really blew up , in part because of this and in part because of the notebook .
Yeah , right , so she was also in Mean Girls . That's right Now . Killian had been in 28 days later and Batman Begins in the same year . I didn't love the film .
It was okay . It was okay .
You know , again , I thought there was great performances . I thought Craven's Directing was good .
I did want to point out I didn't mention this , I don't know if you picked up on this but the cinematography of the film which , if you think about it , especially when they're in the airplane , right , and you got just very dim lights going on and you got the outside like there's a storm going on at the same time .
That's right .
So cinematography definitely a big part of this . Robert Yeoman Robert Yeoman was a cinematographer who's done almost every Wes Anderson film , oh , really Almost every , including Asteroid City , which just came out Right , which I have he also did .
In fact he did all the way back to .
Bottle Rocket . Wow , but here's the film . He was the cinematographer on that . I'm sure you don't know Drugstore Cowboy .
Wow , that's .
Big Street Cred . Big Street Cred , especially with us , for sure .
Yeah .
So you know there was another . I had to mention this appearance in the film because I'm like , is that so ? Keith the defense secretary has this . You know he's got a couple of his guards .
I know who you're going to talk about . Do you know who this is ?
Colby Donaldson was on the second season of Survivor and he was of the security people .
He was the kind of the main guy .
He was the main guy .
This way , you know those little gestures , he was the head of security .
He was the head of security , yeah .
Right , yeah , two this way , Right .
Clearly we've never been or will work in that field . Hour and 25 minutes , thank heavens .
There's another good thing about the film it was only 90 minutes long , and you're including the credits , because it was actually 77 minutes and that was the director's cut that we watched Right .
So it was really 74 minutes . Yeah , right , right .
But I didn't feel like it was a short movie . Not because I didn't like it , I liked it a lot more than you did . I'm not saying this is a Citizen Kane or anything like that .
Right . But I thought it was a pleasant film and yeah , it was , it was , it was I really liked .
I really liked the two actors .
I thought OK , but can I point out some more ? Yeah , go ahead farms .
I'm having with it . Yeah , go ahead .
Jack Killian's character has no gun . There's no gun Now . I get it on the plane Now here's the interesting thing , right , right this is post-911 . That's absolutely right by the time this episode comes out , we will have just celebrated the anniversary of 9-11 .
That's right .
So it was interesting that . Did that come up in any of the documentary ? It did . He brought it up . Was there any possibility this would have not come out or been delayed or ?
I don't know . It was an issue . There was a concern about it . There was a definite concern and I didn't even think about it until it came up because you're talking about an act of terrorism on a plane , correct ? And you know like I think they were turned down by a couple of airports .
They wound up filming .
I know LA in Miami and I think probably Atlanta , given that such a big hub , and it would be in that kind of space . But yeah , that was an issue .
This was released just about four years after . So , not long after . Let me mention this . So to me this was one of the only things . Okay , here you go , mike , you'll appreciate this . One of the only things maybe horror-related or Halloween-related in this whole film is Lisa Rachel McAdams' character . Lisa , lisa , well , lisa , though .
Yeah , he kept calling her Lisa . Like he kept acting like he was familiar with it Familiar with her .
That's something I was fascinated with . Is he headbutts her and then he's caressing her arm and there was this disconnect between I'm going to hurt her but I like her . You know what I mean . I don't know if that .
Yeah , maybe there was a little bit of conflict there within himself . I don't know about that .
I thought there was .
She comes into possession of a pen from one of the other passengers which she ends up using against him , right ? What kind of pen is it , mike ? Did you pick up on it ? It's a .
Frankenstein pen . It was like a blueberry . Yeah , like a Frankenstein . I was right in the neighborhood .
I think it might have been a blueberry pen .
I think it was a blueberry .
For those viewers , you know , and he's cereal , different generation , those , cereal connoisseurs out there .
That's right .
So she takes the pen and jabs him in the trachea . Basically right , he's got that . He can't . And then I just had the scarf . Ask he gets a tie or something and makes an ass spot out of it . He looks like a demented Charles Nelson Riley . Basically Did we Match game 76 .
And I thought of your whiplash bit on one of our previous episodes when we were talking about the crow right Flashback to the crow episode where you're trying to do this whiplash and then he's doing it as like Vito Colleone with the voice . I didn't make him an offering yeah reviews .
Originally he was supposed to have no lines , but they felt like they needed to push it a little bit .
I think they made the wrong decision there , yeah .
And you're right , it was like a necktie , yes , and then all of a sudden it was an ass scot .
Yeah , now let's talk about so if you look it up , the ratings are like it's got about like a 71 meta score , I think , and they were surprised they got a PG , because there's one point PG-13 .
PG-13 . Okay , yeah , there's one point where there's a . At the very end there's a guy laying down in a pool of blood and they had to make that pool of blood smaller . It was definitely small .
Yeah , so it wasn't an R 79% from the critics on Rotten Tomato and 64% from the audience . So I would agree with those ratings . Wow , I think , the critics being a little genious , maybe 75 I would have gone with , but you know why .
I think the critics took in the fact that some of the directing shots Was it Craven Clout ?
I think it was Craven Clout , I don't know .
He has clout .
I'm coining that phrase right here in the O'Brother podcast . Is Craven Clout .
Do people take Scream and Freddie as Within that genre ?
Sure , freddie is like one of the most . I mean , he's an iconic character , no doubt . Absolutely . So was it Ghostface ? So was it .
Ghostface , right . In fact , the stunt guy that got hit by a car in this was actually the Ghostface guy , really . Yeah , it was the same guy . Oh , wow , okay .
I didn't know that .
Yeah .
Now they don't hold a candle to my buddy Michael back here . No , of course you haven't said anything about my new I love it .
The Halloween Fest podcast . I'm loving it .
Yeah , you've got . Can we get a tight shot on this ? This is not just a Michael Myers Funko Pop , this is a 10-inch Michael Myers Funko Pop folks .
So is that bigger than normal ?
Oh yes .
So the regular Funko Pops are like 3 inches , 4 inches , you know . Yeah , like .
I got Yoda , which is really tiny , and then you can see my . You know the campus .
Crystal Lake is awesome , yeah , and then the masks that's phenomenal .
But yeah , so I'm again . You know , I got no issue with the performances . I think Craven did a good job Again . Cinematography from a legend , quite frankly , robert .
Yeoman , I think you know we're eventually going to roll out our own score , our own way to . Yes , that's , and we're kind of saving that for after Halloween Fest .
Right .
But I think if we were to do this one , my score would be the critic score and your score would be the Would be the audience score . I think that's where we are .
I may give it a 70 , maybe you know , a little higher than that , but I will stand by the fact that it is not in my book . This is not a horror film . If you think otherwise , you agree with Mike . Drop us some comments and let us know what you think . You side with me , you know . Whatever your opinion of the film is , did you like the film ?
Did you not like the film ?
Yeah , I , you know .
I'm curious .
I enjoyed the film and I hadn't seen it in a long time , so there was a concern inside me about is this horror enough ? And yeah , I'm not going to shoot down what you said . I agree with what you said .
You made a reasonable pitch at the beginning which I refute and I dispute and I don't think it's correct . But you know we agree to disagree here on the O Brother podcast , but you know that's really the only issue I have . Again , I didn't hate the film by any stretch of the imagination .
It was cool to see Killian again in the film that I remember him from first because I think I saw this before Batman Begins , even though they came out the same year .
It's something else I wanted to bring out with the commentary . There was five people in the commentary In the first 10 minutes . Each one of them at one point said Killian Murphy has these eyes that are just pierced thing .
Which is what I always remembered from the film right . In a weird way , it almost made his character even creepier , I think .
Yeah , and if you know him from Peaky Blinders , he's Scottish and has a very thick Scottish accent . He's not .
Scottish . He's from the Northern Ireland . I believe he's not from Scotland .
Oh okay , brian Cox , I think maybe from Scotland . You're right , good Lord , no , he's Irish Backcheck .
Backcheck . No , no , no , you don't have to fact check it . I know that you're right . Listen , it's a coin . Oh no , you got to go ahead .
I think it's this point where Wes Craven was like he , he . It reads very good . By the way , I read it on paperback and it yeah , it reads a lot more exciting . What does it say right there , irish ?
Irish yeah .
Killian Murphy . It said the borough of somewhere , I think Cork , yeah , and now it . When you show me the picture , I lost my thought . Oh , wes Craven was like I don't know , and they had it down to like two or three actors . Yeah , I mean total different look .
Scotland .
Scotland . You know how many days he was on the .
Brian Cox .
Yeah , day and a half , three days , three days , and it was a 60 day shoot . Yeah , now one thing you probably didn't notice at the beginning is when she was walking through the airport , he was actually Brian Cox was on the phone with her , walking the exact same route .
Now that's something , if it's not pointed out , I don't think a single person's gonna get it .
It seems like Wes wasted his time Like what's the point ? Nobody cares , it means nothing .
The point was to kind of mirror the father and daughter and how they would change places , like he was always . Are you okay ? Are you because she had that incident ? Yeah , is everything okay ? And then at the end it was hers , every dad . Are you okay ? Some sort of sort of Some sort of check and symbiosis or something , right , I don't know , it's weird .
That was his excuse for it To steal a phrase from the film . I'm just gonna say my male based fact driven logic is red eye is not that great of a film . That's what I'm gonna . I'm gonna leave it at that and I enjoyed it .
It's okay . It's a quick watch .
It's a decent thriller . It's unique . All right , it's got a little bit of a yeah Lots up there , so and it did .
Well , I mean , it did do well , it wouldn't have done that well , if it was out , it was a terrible movie and again , he wasn't sold . They had it down to a couple of different actors and actresses and Killian Murphy wanted this part so bad .
He got on a plane from Ireland , flew to I think it was Boston , ironically and he wanted to meet in person with Wes Craven .
You see some recent quotes from him . He looks back at it not super fondly . He's like , let's say , people like it , great , who .
Killian .
Yeah , he doesn't look back at it as like not that he's like trashing it but . Yeah , you know .
Well , it really kind of launched his career All right , again , not a horror film .
but here we are at Halloween Fest talking about red eye . So anything else to say about this one . Mike , before we wrap it up , we gotta get out of here .
Yeah , I enjoyed it and I think this new transfer is really good . Okay , there's your plug . If you want a short movie , you don't want to spend three hours , you want a quick , decent thriller . I think it's good . I think it's solid .
¶ Yo Brother Podcast Halloween Fest Episode
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We'll be back with some more you gotta tune in just to see what we have for a mug .
Exactly . You just never know what we're gonna be hoisting Not only is this mug different . But well we're both different , yeah , and I want to give a shout out to Victoria , victoria , who helped us with the . Halloween Fest art on our standard logo . But she helped us get up . You paid her heavily for that , I did .
She got one of these mugs , in fact , so all right , that's gonna do it for another episode of the O Brother podcast when you're hosting . Smith Longsime is always my brother from the same mother , mike Smith , and we will see you next time For a beautiful everyone .