¶ Discussion on Star Wars and Comics
So the Disney plus Star Wars show where Rosario Dawson competes with force users Ron Swanson and Billy Eilish to find the dude from the Eiffel 65 video . I'm blue , is that ?
new series oh come on .
Yeah , you know , those two Jedi kind of look like Ron Swanson , Billy Eilish . If you squint your head , turn it just a little bit .
Yeah , I guess . Yeah , I mean , I think we're like yeah , I think it's a stretch , but it's what I have . I will say , though , it's like I really do like the guy who plays Blink House name Balan Sorry Balan and he's .
Balan . I love Balan .
Yeah , I love that character too .
He is actually one of my favorite new Star Wars characters in a long time and I'm kind of sad we're not going to see any more of him .
Yeah , I mean . Well , he's . He's my second favorite punisher and he played the punisher in the lesser known , more comic , accurate version of the pusher . You know there was the what's his face , thomas Jane , before him .
Dolph Lundgren .
Thank you . There was Dolph Lundgren . You know he was the first put like live action punisher . It was awful . It's all a disagree . You know it could have been better . You know it's like there were some hits but it was primarily misses with that character . But you know it was the 80s , you know they didn't . Comic book movies weren't really a thing .
So people wanted to see a new Dolph Lundgren meditating in the sewer .
Yeah , so whatever it's , it's , fine .
Yeah , how are the duck kind of ruined comic book movies for the 80s a little bit . People didn't really want to try after that .
Thomas Jane's number two , not number two like the next one up . So you know Duffin were four , thomas Jane is three , whereas like he's he's , he looked the part , but the movie wasn't the punisher . You know , like they , they try to make it bigger , like oh , instead of his wife and kids being killed , they killed his entire bloodline . That wasn't necessary .
And then this kid's like Punisher is tied down to a chair .
It's like you know your third cousin , just seppy from the old country . He's like no , we murdered him too . Do you know his four children ? Like no , I've never heard of people . We murdered them as well , you know they're all dead .
And well then it's like and then the skull shirt was like , oh , his kid gave it to him because I was on the island . It was like the spirit of rebirth and he gives it to him and he comes up and he's aware that shirt and respect of his dead kids , like , no , it's a skull . It means that sounds , yeah , that sounds kind of stupid , stupid .
And then they have one of those scenes later in the movie where he's like trying to rescue his shirt before it burns up in like dramatic music plays .
You get a shirt for you . You will be that far , far off , to be honest . Well , and then it's like look , I'm not going to say the Punisher is one of my favorite comic book characters . I really appreciate for what he is , I appreciate what he does , I had thoroughly enjoyed his comics , but he's by no means my favorite .
That being said , like there are several Punisher storylines that were really really , really good .
And they kind of touched on a moment back in the 90s and , yeah , I liked him .
And they touched on a little bit with a giant Russian that you know . That particular line or storyline is actually more like that Russian that came in with a striped shirt . He is a full fledged character in the comics and he's kind of showed up and didn't speak .
I am a soldier . Jay the dancing bear trainer , meet my army of dancing bears . Is they all like driving on little cars and jump on the Punisher ? That would be funny .
I mean it would be funny . Well , because in the thing is the guy , the Russian who attacks him . In the comics was very wordy , he talked a lot , he was constantly talking and , by the way , after Punisher kills him , they the Russians come in and like take his head .
And they take his head , is put on a body of another , like a robot type body or like a whatever , and they genetically engineer him . But due to some like flaws in some of their testing , he gets huge boobs and he loves it and so he's just like .
He constantly gets like breast implants to add more boobs to him because he is just in love with his own boobs . Anyway , my name is tits . McGee now respect me , so anyway , whatever I mean , my biggest issue was he wasn't bloody enough . I mean , there's a scene where he tortures a guy , but he's , he's psyching him out , he's putting like popsicle on him .
I remember somebody talking about that . Yeah , it's like no torch burns so he feels cold .
I mean , there's a scene in the comics where he like captures a guy , hangs him from a tree , pulls out his intestines and then starts interrogating him Like that's not the punisher , he's not like trickery , he's very just brutal , straight anyway .
You want that PG 3 at 13 rating , then you got to change things up just a little bit .
Well then they act . Then here comes man . I'm terrible at names . What's his face again , thomas Jane .
Oh , the Balan yeah .
Balan , let it be known , I named her the beta . My existence , I cannot oh .
I'm just horrible . To Ray Stevenson , I believe yes , thank you Because all I can think is Ray Stevenson is saying the streak . Oh yes , they called him the streak , it's a what that's outside of my wheelhouse .
I don't know what you're talking about . It's a song for like the 70s .
Okay , margaret , he's streaking , but she looked .
No , no idea what you're talking about . He was . He was a punisher . And now it's funny because the woman who did this movie , she had actually done another movie earlier that like got you know Oscars and whatever . It was a . It was that bomb movie . It was like the Iraq , like bomb .
A hurt locker ? Yes , that one she did how did .
I know that . Good job , sean . That was a good pull . She did a hurt locker and then she did this next and she actually stuck very close to comics . But in doing that it actually hurt her .
Because when they did the premiere they're like , okay , this is really crazy violent and whatever we're going to give them like comics like they gave the press like little comics and go , hey , this is the the feel we're going , and they left that movie like honestly thinking there's something wrong with her . They're like she is a blood thirsty maniac .
You know she shouldn't be around civilized people it is , but the movie was like it really was this woman is unhinged .
How dare she tell stories ?
not all cupcakes and fireflies Crazy , bloody and like very are , and Ray Stevenson was great in his role as a punisher . He really did .
I could totally see him pulling that off because he just kind of got that bad ass aura about him .
And they also had one of his known villains , which is a villain called Jigsaw , which is basically someone he , you know , carved all his face up and yeah , I remember .
Jigsaw .
Yeah , and he did that and they also did a . The ending of the movie was actually really good . They did almost a dread where you've never seen dread . Not judge dread , but dread , yeah . The second one , yeah , where he goes to the building same thing . The very end was like it was almost like a video game he got either .
Like they taunted him to come to this abandoned building . They filled it with a bunch of different gangs . Each gang took a different floor and he had to go through each floor , killing all the gang members .
So it's kind of like the raid .
Kind of yeah , and so I haven't seen the raid by no , I know of it , neither have I , but I know of it . And so and he goes all the way , you know , and then you know he wins , and blah , blah , blah , and of course that , the best punisher being the most recent one . Again , that was nice .
Not the recent one .
No , the best punisher being the last one they did , which was he was in the TV show . He was in . Everybody said the TV shows version Burke something .
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Sure , why not ?
I mean , I'm sure the listeners know A crooner from the 70s .
Yeah , I'm sure the listeners know you know it's like you know what I'm trying . I really try not to Google , but I'm not doing it .
You can Google . I mean , I usually cut out the parts where it's like I'm going to Google this so After this , let's move on , because we're not talking about the punisher , I'm just doing this yeah , we
¶ The Punisher and Norse Mythology
are . We're talking about the punisher a lot at the moment .
Right , well , I'll be the point of the show . John , burson , burson , all John . Oh , I kind of heard that name Bernthal , john Bernthal , bernthal , not Burson , all no , john Bernthal , he was actually really good , like he was a great punisher .
He wasn't as comic , accurate as Ray Stevenson was , but he , I will say though he he was the best I really do enjoy , like his version of it . It does kind of annoy me that he didn't go .
It took his appearance in Daredevil and his appearance going through two seasons full of like backstory crap for him finally just to be like the punish that we all know , like it's the last , like 15 minutes of the last final episode of the second season . That's what he's like . Okay , now he's gone to the backstory the other way .
Now he's just going after street thugs . You know he's . He's out there just murdering people , which is fine . That's the punisher's thing . Yeah , so Ray Stevenson . All this to be said , we took way too much time on the punisher , but Ray Stevenson , he's one of my favorite actors that I never think about , you know , I mean .
Now I'm thinking about Ron Swanson as the punisher . That could be interesting .
That would be interesting .
The Ron Swanson character playing the punisher . You know I'm here to murder you , correct ? Give me all your bullets , every last bullet in the store . I know you think I'm talking about just a few bullets .
I also appreciate like he was very square , very like , very blunt . He felt like a blunt instrument because he would come in Balan every time about the punisher still . No , we're going , we're actually going to soak it out . Okay , but we've been off topic on this a lot enough .
but , like Balan , Skoll and Shin Hati are their names . What Balan ? Skoll is the dude's name and Shin Hati is his apprentice . Yes , so Balan Skoll , which is a great name , skoll and Hati are actually the two Norse mythology wolves that chased the sun and moon through the sky .
Oh , there you go . I've not known that .
Yeah , there's a lot of wolf imagery in this series . Dave Floney is really big on wolves . That makes sense .
Apparently it is a really thing .
He's got like wolves on his shirt . He's always writing about wolves , like his character in Star Wars is like lone wolf or something like that , or wolf trap .
I guess that also makes sense , because there was some imagery about the world between worlds where it was like wolves chasing each other yeah , like in a circle .
The Norse . They're basically the offspring of Finrear Right Just so you know yeah .
Yeah , finrear . So I really did appreciate his rendition of this like baddie . I'm gonna tell you what .
I , I he's almost more neutral , leaning baddie kind of . Yeah , like he's not really like intentionally evil or sinister . He's just kind of like I'm here to do a job and I've got my own little agenda going on .
Like a lawful evil type thing yeah .
Yeah , that works Um .
That's also the reason .
I guess they gave him the orange lightsabers to show that they're not truly Jedi or Sith , they're kind of in between .
Yeah , I'll be talking to you , I can . They're like . I didn't really see those orange until someone said , hey , look , they're orange .
I was like oh yeah , neither did I . It was like oh okay , I guess that's neat .
I mean , I guess I see more red there , but whatever .
Yeah , oh , also , one thing I didn't really realize is the beginning of all these Disney plus series
¶ Ahsoka and the Future of Clone Wars
. You know it's got the little helmets going behind the colors flashing on them . That's actually kind of like a sign of what's coming up in the future episodes . Like whatever color flashes on that character , it's if they're going to be good or bad , that episode or do bad things yeah how do you pick that up ?
Yeah , like um , literally on the fourth episode where uh , the Mandalorian chick , she hands over the uh little urban stuff and is like , hey , fine , we'll go find Ezra . Yeah , in that episode , like , her helmet shines red because she made a bad choice , that episode , yeah , kind of neat .
I almost always skip through that beginning part because you know the button is like skip this . I'm like Okay .
So I guess I should uh ask how much do you know about Ahsoka as a character ?
Um , not a whole lot . She was Anakin's uh understudy until she ran off and abandoned Anakin , thus leading him to the dark side , weird way .
Well , yes and no , she . You know she didn't like she did . Okay , in some respect she did have been an Anakin , but it wasn't her abandoning Anakin , she was leaving the Jedi Order .
So it wasn't like the one person Anakin had in the Jedi Order he could look towards abandoned him . Thus , yeah , I mean he . I'm sure he felt abandoned .
knowing Anakin , he definitely felt abandoned because they were pretty tight and he raised her up basically and you know , made her who she was and she took off . You know the nickname Snips , which the dumb ass nip game .
It makes me think of Citizen Snips , the crab from fucking Futurama . Citizen Snips it was a criminal who had all like the animals that would help him rob banks . Yeah , that's awesome . He had a crab named Citizen Snips , so that's all I can think of is sure , just being a crab . Oh , I was gonna say so .
Yeah , I don't know a ton about Ahsoka , really , other than what I've seen on this and what I've read other people talk about .
Well , I actually watched all of Clone Wars , um , so I actually have , you know , a pretty you know , I know pretty much about her . I will say , though , I did not watch all of Rebels . I kind of had to do some , um like YouTubeing to see , kind of , the end of it . I started watching it .
Apparently , it really helps to watch Rebels before you see this from about everybody .
Yeah and I probably still need to go back and watch it . I mean , I got to the point where she shows up , but I did get to the point where she was , like the last season , where she was trying to train some beam or whatever . I just kind of saw like the highlights . You know , I saw , you know , thrawn .
Thrawn is also one of my favorite characters , but I've liked him since he was , since the book . So , yeah , I just , I really I've liked Thrawn , I really liked , uh , you know Ezra , I don't know Ezra , I give or take , yeah , some of the the characters they brought in on Rebels . I don't know , I'm not a huge Ezra fan .
That being said , like Ezra , I don't know , I did see a little bit of Rebels . I don't know , I don't know there's gonna be the wrong term to use but Ezra , I don't know , he felt kind of like generic hero , generic .
Yeah , I don't know there wasn't much to set him apart from anything else other than just like I'm a scrappy young dude who's trying to make a change in this weird world .
I just never . I just never bonded with him as a character .
The thing , the funny thing about a soco , though and I went through kind of the same like transitions as most of the fandom when she first showed up , like on that movie that came out , you know , with the old two part movie they released in theaters for the very big episode one and two of Clone Wars , she was irritating as hell .
I mean , she was this like little brash young .
I'm young and spunky and got everything . It was like an annoying little character .
Yeah , exactly , she wouldn't listen to instructions . She was like she called Anakin Sky Guy . I mean , it was just so . Anyway , she starts off super irritating and I've since read that that was on purpose . Like Dave Filoni made her intentionally irritating in the beginning .
So she would like , as she endears herself to has a redemption arc basically , yeah , as she endears herself to Anakin , she's endearing herself to the public .
And yeah , it worked . It totally does work . The problem is is , if you don't do it right , a lot of times people will just give up on the character before the redemption , aren't just like write them off as being annoying forever . So you got to make sure people actually have the stick to it and as to be around for the redemption .
So yeah , I watched the so kind of grow up . So I've seen her all the way to the point where even the most recent Clone Wars , where she defeats small and she or she really does become a pretty powerful Jedi in her own right , and she , she gets framed .
I'm sure I don't know how much you researched on , but she gets framed for murder or whatever and it turns out it was another Jedi there and you know it all turns out OK . It's like , oh yeah , the Jedi come because the Jedi kick her out initially .
Yeah , as I say she's not technically a Jedi Is she because ?
she gets kicked out of the Jedi order because they they think she's guilty , and then she clears her name , or her and Anakin clear her name , and they're like , oh well , whoops , sorry , come back .
You know , we didn't know , we kicked out prematurely , that's our bad , but some come back after our review board looked over the paperwork , we have decided that we were in the bad .
Yeah , and she's kind of like no , like you guys kicked me out before you even had all the facts . You just just for the sake of like saving face , you threw me out For her .
Fuck them . I would have done the same thing Honestly . I would have been like screw you guys .
And so she's like I'm , there's something wrong with this organization , I got to go , and so she leaves . And then Anakin's like oh , she left me . It's like no man , she left them , you know , you're a part of them , and not for long .
But yeah , I mean , even she sees , as you know , as shown in the show and even shown in the , the cartoon series , and rebels .
She regrets that decision , of course she does , you know , and she , she sees that , yeah , she left the Jedi Order , but she also , like Anakin , really leaned on her and depended on her and her abandoning the order was abandoning him .
I do like that , Like we're Balans , Like are you going to abandon this ? Like you abandoned your former master .
Yeah , that was good , Like you know , bad psychological warfare yeah , yeah Again .
I still really like Balan . Too bad that dude had to go and die in real life .
Yeah that's a huge bummer .
Yeah , I mean we might get an AI version of him in the future , but yeah , yeah , yeah .
Yeah , I know like .
Anakin showing up at the end of the series . He didn't quite look right , although people say there might be a reason for that could be fake Anakin .
Well , I don't think so . I think he's actually . I think it's actually like it's Anakin , and because it's the world between worlds where anything has to explain , I think it's just bad CG . I mean it's .
Yeah , they tried to de-age him a little bit . Yeah , it like Mainly people are saying it could be a fake Anakin because the lightsaber is different on the character yeah , apparently , the lightsaber is entirely black instead of being silver . Oh yeah , I know it could just been like hey , grab a prop out of the bin and meet us on stage .
I think that I think that's that stretching , that's really stretching . You know , because it's , I've kind of pulled back from that stuff ever . So that was the WandaVision show that made me start . We need to start , like we can't be looking at every little thing .
We got to realize writers are fallible and they don't . They're not Always looking at 4,000 steps , I mean it .
Let's be real . Like what happened at that show was not cool and everyone's like , oh , mephisto Now looking at the future , looking back , like Mephisto wasn't even like hit mention and like , oh you know , oh , this is the sign that the world's coming together .
No , it was a dick joke , yeah yeah , really , what's not even really a good dick joke , even that's a sad part If it was a good dick joke . I would have been more for it , but yeah , it's like boner .
That was it , yeah , yeah .
But like in the first episode , you know when they bail in and what's her ? But first board aboard the ship . My first thought , too , was like if I was that captain , I'd be very doubtful of there being a lot of Jedi around to be like , yeah , that's probably not a Jedi . Well , those are after I think it was like Andor was a .
I think it was Andor , where they had the fake Jedi who's like pretending to be a Jedi ? Yeah , I mean , that's got to be a pretty big scam post , you know Empire .
Oh yeah , no , no , no , that was , that was Obi-Wan . Oh OK , gotcha and that and or . Like they didn't , there was no , like there wasn't even mention of Jedi .
No , there really wasn't , yeah , and or is just first one popped in my head . I wasn't that big on Obi-Wan , it was OK . I just wish they didn't shoehorn princess lay in there . Fuck that , that was .
I , I desperately wanted like that show . I mean , I really really would like that . And there are some scenes that I think they're really cool , like I think the final confrontation between him and Vader is pretty cool . It could have done better , yeah , sure , but I think it was fine .
Princess Leia escaped wearing a trench coat , like two kids in a trench coat .
Dude , just so dumb . I mean they , I'm not . I'm not going to say you're in criticism as a whole thing , because that could be another like a whole show by itself was bitching about Obi-Wan . But that was just so dumb and I'm to leave it there . It was so dumb . Yeah , I'm trying to bite back the urge to like continue .
The better biologists to flow through . I , it was just you for the biol .
Nathan spew it forth . Stupid , stupid . This is on the show .
Oh , and that first scene . The captain of that ship that I got you know the shot in the face by his own gun , he was actually one of the Marines in the original aliens movie Aliens , not aliens . Yeah , sure was . Yeah , yeah , yeah , you actually recognize him . Neat , I had no clue . I was just like hey , that's a dude .
And then I was watching one of those spoiler recaps and like hey , but I really I liked how they did .
And I'm not I don't know man , I'm not , I'm not a fan of the apprentice so far . Now , I don't give a crap on the gender thing . I'm not talking about that , it's just she . She seems to doughy , you know what I mean ? Yeah , yeah , and a little incompetent , to be honest with you .
I don't mean . I mean she is a pad one and assistant . She does have that little braid thing going to saying that she's being raised in the Jedi method .
I mean , I guess , but like , look , so being like , skip it to the end of the episode .
¶ Jedi Training and Plot Elements Discussion
First of all , I'm annoyed . They're , they're trying to make to be mature Jedi . It's it there . That's my opinion . You know , they're not trying , they're going to eventually . And I mean , but here's the thing , like I keep on saying , like the snops I was watching , they're like George Lucas says , everyone has the force , so everyone can use the force .
The Medichlorians are basically just like , it's like someone , it's an indicator . It's an indicator like the , the . The Medichlorians are a way of telling who's going to be powerful . The force by like , oh , this just means that they're predisposed for that . But even if they have low Medichlorians , they can still have access to the force .
It just takes a lot more work to get there . Ok , fine , but like , first of all , she's starting this whole Jedi training thing Even after we . She must be our 20s . Yeah , I'm just let's assume she's .
Yeah , I think she's supposed to be like late 20s , maybe 30 late 20s , that's , that's insanely . Like they were complaining about .
First of all , they complain Anakin , when he was like , oh , he's too old , he was nine . And then then Luke is too old , he was like 19 . And so , but you know , he was able to train , but again , both those people were jam packed full of Medichlorians .
And now it is , by the way , still they've been a little stupid , but this is this is the world , this is the world they live in . So here we go , and Now , all of a sudden , they're into someone who's so , he's even 10 years , more than that , and has no Medichlorians to speak of , and it's like she's a , she's a Mandalorian . Lean on that .
She doesn't have . Why . Why are we trying to make her a Jedi to ? Is this way ? All the people who ?
grew up with the original prequels can be like hey , I'm old enough to still be a Jedi if I want to . I'm not past that age .
I mean honestly , that's just a stab in the dark .
It might be right , though I mean , but she has no force , so why didn't like the what's your face ?
that is an evil premise . She's walked in and just forced Joker , put like force , blast force , push her against the wall three times and then stab her . Yeah .
Yeah , that fight was kind of lame right there because it yeah , it felt like she could done a much better job .
Yeah , it's just , I don't know Like , yeah , she's a predispit , I think even .
Oh yeah , and that whole training sequence between Ahsoka and the gal Was that on the second episode . I think yeah , that was on the second episode , but still that I don't know that drug on way too long . I felt like it was way too slow . They need to go and watch samurai jack , because that show perfected training montages back in the early 2000 .
Because , I don't know , we don't need like every single frame of a training montage , we can just like break it down a little bit faster than they did .
Yeah , I'm not again , I'm talking about the look .
Yeah , like the blind training part I'm talking about with a no , yeah , I totally get it . Yeah , I don't know that just felt like it went on for ever . It really did . They could have cut off probably about two minutes of it . Like I said , just do the samurai jack thing where it's like splash screen , splash screen , splash screen . She's better Yay .
Well , I think they were also going for slower though being , I think that was . I think the slow was the point . Though oh , here we are , you know , in this thing , and they have this old robot , or Android , and he's David Tindenpot . Yeah , I mean , you know what ? Fine , you know , he is actually like cannon . He was in the show .
He apparently is one of the oldest robots , he's like hundreds of years old , so he's thousands .
I thank you man . Yeah , so he's been trained Jedi for forever , I can . It looks like he's been designed by Terry Gilliam too . I don't know why I thought that , but I saw him and I was like that's a Terry Gilliam robot . Yeah , it does look like that .
But he's fine . But why are all the baddies so far ? I mean , I know they're aiming for , like you know , they're going for Disney plus , so they don't want to be cutting heads off of people , but I Mean , why are they leaning so hard on robots or androids ?
Just Seems like all the baddies they are fighting so far have been androids , even the first because you can kill androids whole sale and people don't feel bad .
That's my guess again you're probably right . You are probably right , and I know it's one thing yes , I will where we blow up a whole death star worth some people repeatedly .
But that was like implied . You know they're implied , yeah yeah , those are faceless , nameless .
You know CGI characters in the background . Quote-unquote CGI characters .
But like again , though , going back to the Clone Wars , which you know kind of birthed all this where it so came from . Clone Wars was not shy about killing people . They kill people all the time and In very like harsh ways , I mean they did . They did not shy away from the abrupt next people .
They died on screen a lot , and so I know like human people's different animation , but yeah .
I don't know seeing that a lot of people are kind of bitching about that , kind of agree with sort of stupid that has to do with the Androids is . There is one scene where a Sabine , just like , punches an android in the head and it's like , ow , it's like I don't know , a human punching a robot in the head should really affect it .
Right , I know we're going by star wars logic , but still .
Well , and also like that would hurt her hand .
Yeah , if you , if I feel like if you or I went up and punched a robot right in the face , it would hurt our hands more than the robot robot you take . That was pointless significantly . So , yeah , but in that show , apparently , you can punch a robot in the head and it's like ow , stop that .
And let's , let's go back to , you know episode one again , because we're kind of drifting . But yeah , why is it ? Why ? Why Do these ancient civilizations rely on Resident Evil ?
Like thinking , oh , for the puzzles and everything .
Yeah , we're gonna hide this super important Map in a globe and then put it in this room . They need to like do this and , by the way , once you do this , that destroys the podium . It was on and it's like that .
Well , that room screamed fifth element to me , to be honest , yeah , that's , it really did . It was like , oh that's . And also , too , when they do like that sky thing where they're looking at the Sky map , that screamed of a skyrim , selecting your character and leveling up .
Was that space lane so important ? And if it was , why was it hidden ? You know they're like there's a space line to go in this specific galaxy far , far away . We need specific coordinates , because of course you do , because you know , yeah , the galaxies are really far apart . There's a lot of dead space .
If you miss even by a slight margin , you'll miss it and you know , use you might , there's a very real possibility you can travel in dark space forever , you know so I get it or possibly travel through time using it .
Possibly is I actually have a theory about where this series is going ?
It's a long shot , but it's a theory and so they have this super important globe and has to be taken to another planet somewhere else . So it's not even the same planet . Go somewhere else , a different system , and from that system you have to go , just like certain setting of stones , and only from there .
If you have a map , if you're use magic , because that's what she is , she's a witch , so you can use like the witch city magic type thing and to even look at it , and it's just that's so complicated for something there's like math , yeah .
Yeah , and also I was looking at that little orb when she's like , hey , we got solve the puzzle on this little orb . It seems like with you know a little bit of time , anybody could have figured out that quote-unquote rubik's cube of a puzzle . Yeah , it was not hard , it wasn't .
I mean , you twisted it into a certain way and there was no real consequences if you got it wrong .
Right , there's only so many ways you could twist it . And once a twist up all the lines like lined up perfectly is like well , duh .
Yeah , I mean , the only way it could have been better is if fucking Hill razor came out what she did .
That ha , that would have been amazing . I have such sights to show you . And instead of pins , oliver's heads , little lightsabers , yeah that means dumb as shit . Oh , I want to see that now . Cinnabite , jedi , cinnabite Sith , sithabytes . There we go
¶ Discussion on Star Wars Series
. That also to going to the fourth episode . You think they're gonna do a call back to Indiana Jones where a soka has , like that orb burned onto her hand and she's like , hey , I can see this .
You know maybe I can see that that I actually thought something like that too . She's like ah , she's screaming like anything . I thought the same thing . Are they gonna ? Is it burden to her hand now ?
Yeah . Yeah , it was corny , but I mean by same talking yeah , not the corniest thing we've seen no , and because I mean the reason why I worked in Indiana Jones .
Was it made some sense ?
Yeah , yeah , I wouldn't really make sense with a globe that has , you know , 360 degrees of stuff you got to look at yeah , that's , that is a problem where , because on that thing in Indiana Jones it was that one side .
Yeah , it was just a flat medallion and that was in . But I was also the reason why they were digging the wrong spot , because they didn't have both sides , but they at least got somewhere close to vicinity .
Yeah , back to the first episode when that uh , the droids blew up and blew up those ruins . Was that explosion just because those droids had such big bombs in them , or was that whole place just like rigged to blow ?
it . It's implied that the robots did that the okay . They used that like they all knelt down , which I don't know why those are .
That's our big fucking explosion for like two little bombs .
Yeah , and like , why didn't she just kill the robots ? And then , and and another thing is , if they sent those robots after her to kill her and take the thing , and even if they failed , they immediately went self-destruct mode . Now , obviously , by you know , they showed that that thing's not invincible , it can be destroyed .
I'm pretty sure that huge explosion would have destroyed it , which would have foiled their plans from the jump , like if she had it , like , let's say , she got caught up in that and destroyed it , then throw on , screwed anyway , like they're their failsafe plan , screwed everybody . So I don't know what .
I mean it did take that lightsaber a lot of effort to cut through that little orb so it might have survived , maybe , maybe maybe , maybe .
Let me ask someone to send your robots in there . Would you want to rely on ? Maybe ?
Yeah , uh , all right , maybe we can also blame this on the dude who set up the droids or something like just put in just enough Explosive skill , or he's like fuck that , I'm gonna put in all . I got bitch . We did a big explosion , oh , real quick . The force which is actually Bruce Lee's goddaughter , oh yeah , yeah , kind of neat . That is neat .
Yeah , I mean , it doesn't really mean anything along in the short bit .
I am about going on to her . I do . It is kind of annoying that she looks too human for me . She looks too human . They have a slight little hint of a tattoo under her hairline . But if you , if you look how they look in the cartoon like they don't look human , they're human , oh yeah .
Yeah , maybe they're gonna make her like a half-sist witch or something , when the bread with a human or just like oh , it's not it .
you know , now she gets there , she can take off this thing that makes her yeah , or maybe it's just all makeup or something , I don't know . Yeah , something I mean and whatever although she's doing a decent job .
I like her in the role ?
Oh no , totally , she's doing a great job as the evil villain I Also want to make . I do want to point out I like the series about so far . I mean , oh , honestly .
I have been enjoying it too . It's got problems , but I like it better than a few of the other series .
I realize , as I was writing my nose down , I'm like I'm doing , I'm writing out a lot of bitching , but no , I do actually really enjoy it .
Yeah , it could have been . This one actually has some of the better sword fights I've seen in action , sequences , I feel like , of the Disney plus .
It's not as good as the movies , I feel , but no better action scenes I mean , let's the the creme de la creme of lightsaber battles are Anakin Obi-Wan at the end of revenge and so that that is , that's it all .
I mean it also kind of went too long , but that was like clearly like the one of the better , my Sarah jewels Aside from Obi-Wan to killing Maul in one strike .
Yeah , and also one problem they have with the TV series is they shoot all of those in that big like virtual dome that they have . So you know you're kind of limited in what you can do with the fight scenes a little bit , as opposed , you know , being out in a huge field or a grove that is limiting , but it's better than a blue screen .
Oh , it's way better than a blue screen totally better for the actors . You know , you can actually see stuff around you .
Yeah , it is a huge step up from blue screen , but you're right , it's not as good as like actually going on location .
Yeah , I've seen blue and green screen acting that looks hard to be honest , like hey , pretend that's a giant hell beast over there and be scared and you're just staring at like a dude , like a stick with a ball on the end . Be like right right . Yeah right , evil . Oh , what they got noticed in the first episode , twilocks the , you know what a soak is ?
Yep , they all have different like tentacles style heads . Do you think they have like all sorts of racism on their planet depending on how your head tentacles are set up ? They absolutely do there's a bunch of colors , is there ?
okay , oh yeah , there's , there's green , there's red , there's blue , there's oh yeah , and some of them have them pulled forward and some of them have their head tentacles pulled .
bad , that's probably the sluttier version , I'm guessing it . Oh yeah , they do actually have racism on their planet because those colors neat , I'm not like .
I mean , is it Malik , dirt to say , darth Rami , malik Talon , darth Talon ? She's , you know she's a , she's a future sis . So it's like , and it's not , you know , can anymore , because it takes place like who she fights is Luke Skywalker's grandson . So it's , you know , it's supposed to take place in the future .
But she's red and you know she's now , she's read , and of course she has like a leather bikini top and you know she's all sexy looking because of course , try , like twilight , females are Just generically , there's all supposed to be hot . Yeah , generic seductress .
Yeah , she's like red with tattoos all over and not the same as Darth Maul , but same kind of you know thing . So I mean , I the top of twilight's , annoying , I don't know like we don't look like animations , so you can't make it look dead on like the animation from the cartoon .
But I'm not a huge fan of how she looks , you know , I think our face is too small for it . I think that her time out of stoka .
No , I'm talking about pilot pilot or the general , the one that's dressed like launch pad McQuack ?
Yeah , I just I don't know like her head , her head pieces too big for her face and it bothers me .
Yeah , you're right . And also , I don't know , there's something about her clothes and her outfit is almost like too vibrantly colorful . It almost I don't know kind of stands out as like technicolor looking , I don't know .
Yeah well , these costumes need to be dirty to just a hair or something , because they're trying to basically copy , you know , the color scheme from the cartoon series , a little more bright and past Ellie and I don't know it doesn't work in some instance on this show .
You know one thing I noticed , you know . You know she brought me to the point of , like the Republican general .
You know one thing I do kind of appreciate but it's kind of irritating where Disney or the Lucas film or whatever , like the general Star Wars , star War , they are really pushing for their republic to be incompetent , because you know , you go from the Obi-Wan series where there's Obi-Wan series , they didn't really touch on that too much , but in the most recent
Mandalorian they're making them look almost so incompetent . They're evil . You know what I mean . Yeah .
Like the fact , in this show they're all wearing red and one of them stands up and screams for the empire before doing anything . That kind of thing . No , not that guy I mean , I'm talking about like the republic , oh , the republic , oh , okay , I'm sorry . They're just like oh , we're not .
we're not going to waste any resources . Sitting people out there and I'm like how much resources ? Like to send out a few ships . Like what are you talking about ? Like there's , we're not , there's , no one's talking about launching a full on military campaign , we're just sending , you know , a thousand ships out there .
They're sitting , they're talking about sending out a small contingent of people to see what's up in this thing . And they're like well , we don't want to cause any problems , you know the empire is dead .
Isn't that also supposed to be part of , like , the mystery of ooh ? Are they part of the empire helping the empire reform ? Because you know they are really hammering home the hey . People from the empire work at all levels here , so who could be a good guy or a bad guy ?
Well , true but they are really , really leaning on the competency of even the smallest , the lowest level , like you know . She's like , oh , I'm leaving . That one guy's like you can't leave and she's like , well , I'm gonna is like what am I supposed to say to these people ? There's a meeting . She's like I don't know , tell them something .
Is that what they drug out ? That one poor dude is like entertain them .
Yeah , it's just like . What are you trying to say Like , so we all , we all agree the empire is bad , but they're just going off an indoor . While they were bad , they had a bureaucracy nailed down . They are like all the evil that was . One of the evil things about them is they were so good with a bureaucracy .
Yeah , sometimes they were a little heavy , heavy handed . Oh , you know , there's a pickpocket . Stole some money from this bank . Let's destroy the whole fucking city . Okay , you know , maybe you know rain it in a little bit . But in terms of just like the Republic would like , oh , the pickpocket stole something . Oh , let's pretend like it didn't happen .
Yeah and yeah . They just let that general walk all over them . She's like I'm gonna do what I want . I feel like even if you're a general , you're , they're still gonna be like some sort of checks and balances , you and attack , so like that's the where she walks in .
She's like I need to see the paperwork on all these engines , your billy's like I can't do that . She's like I'm a general . He's like okay , I feel like if you're really a bad guy , like trying to cover up there's ways , you can like be a rock or see your way out of that there's there's a million ways they could have covered that up .
I mean just a million things you could have done , like , I want to see your files . Well , it's a , it's a computer . You can have two different sets of files .
One , yeah , one , for that's why I was thinking you're talking about the empire being fucking a idiotic or in comedy , because they kind of arson this show sometimes to outside like a few corp Like hey , have you noticed any weird droids ? And also that one empire droid is just like yeah , I saw a hundred killer droid a few minutes ago .
Why would you program to do that ?
Yeah , it's like what do you do ? Come on man , what do you just ?
like for the empire , it shoots the gun . I mean there's , there's a trillion other ways you could have handled that . Guys , literally just be like hey , we'll get you your paperwork . Go back to the lounge , have some , you know , poison to tea and we'll bring you the paperwork in an hour , All right .
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And I mean they're also leading really hard on like oh , we have all these former imperials where we made them . You know , pinky swear that they're not going to do bad anymore , so we're good . And I mean I totally get it . Like you know , it's the same thing even nowadays when you go and take a like , when the America goes over , take over country .
Oh yeah , I mean , just because they worked in the Iraqi government doesn't mean you can throw them in jail automatically because they're just there for a fucking job .
Exactly Like they , they needed to feed their family . They came in and they , they worked . And so I mean , yeah , what they were doing was probably horrific , but they worked , yeah .
Sometimes I don't even know what they're doing too . It's just like hey man , I just fill out paperwork all day in an office .
Yeah , I mean , I did ones and zeros . What do you want me to do ?
I was working for the bad guys but I was literally in my cubicle do stuff . I wasn't out shooting people . I was just like , oh okay , well , we got to want this much grain this week .
I mean I went to work , I clocked in I data entry and I left .
Yeah Well , do you know what your entry date on it's like ? I have no fucking clue , dude , it's numbers .
I'm a 50 pound UGNOT . What am I going ? To do against , you know , a battalion of stormtroopers led by a giant , six foot black dude and armor like with a sword who'd kill me from a distance . Like right , it killed me without even looking at my direction .
It's like well , how do you do ? Yeah , I am out of my lane here , I'm , I'm , I'm good .
So yeah , it is . It's really frustrating and like in the rebels , they show what . They even go and sabotage . Like a Thrawn was in charge . I mean there was a , it's all up so where he went in to his factory and he's just like , okay , there's been , there's more accents coming at this factory than any other going forward .
Anything you make you have to test personally before it goes out . And yeah , that's a good way to stop sabotage . If you're good , you'll get . Even if you do sabotage something , it's probably going to blow up on you , killing you . So it's yeah .
I mean one thing about animal throne , though that I'm actually really looking forward to him coming back is , of all the villains out there , you know Darth Vader had his . You know , yeah , he was smart , but he was also like very brutal and he was he's more cunning than anything else . It just well , I mean cunning , nevermind , I'll put it back .
He , he was smart , but he was just very brutal in the way . He was a blunt object , you know where , and the Palpatine was a lot more cunning and uses brain and you know that's how he got in charge of everything and thrones . Like him , thrawn is super cunning .
He can stare at the art and be like I know everything about you now .
That's exactly what that's terrifying . And it's just . I don't know . I really hope they lean that on . They don't dumb them down .
That's what I'm terrified of is because they're already making so much of the empire seem like dumb and competence that literally thrones .
Just has to have like a room temperature IQ and you'll seem smarter than most of them Well , and also , like I don't know what they're talking about , leaning on , like particularly the Jedi going , oh , we're going to get this guy , he's super powerful . Like no , he was a great . Like he was a brilliant military mind , he was cunning as hell .
You know he was formidable physically as long as God's four powers I mean there was a lot of . You know he is by far like a very formidable , formidable enemy , but he wasn't magic . I mean , that was the whole thing .
Like in the books , even in the books , like he found a way around the force thing , but he found a creature that repelled the force and he had that almost person at all times . I'm just really looking forward to seeing what they do with it .
I think it's going to come out pretty cool . And also , as a Mads , Mads Mikkelsen is pointing him isn't he ?
Yeah , he's a good at , he's the guy who voiced him in the in the cartoon .
Yeah .
Yeah , pretty good as him too Kind of .
I mean as good as you can make somebody use blue look .
Yeah , I mean I'm I am excited that they , I don't know , like I just kind of wish they got someone a little more . I don't know , he looks fine . He looks fine , I mean he's fine . I just don't know what I was expecting . I was expecting someone because , honestly , the biggest thing is his face . He's not much , you know , he doesn't really his body .
It's like I was pointing someone whose face is a lot more like chiseled that's done .
Yeah , I mean I realize , or weathered or something , maybe , or maybe I don't know .
I mean , he looks fine . Again , he looks fine and we'll see how he looks . I've seen like small snippets .
Yeah , we have actually seen him like talking or in motion . Really just the small snippets seen .
I haven't been too thrilled with , but I'm a reserve my judgment .
Yeah , hey , you know those little cat things with the bird feet in this show , don't ? They kind of remind you of Sam from Sam and Max just a little bit . I think it's the big , toothy grand they have . Remember Sam and Max from back in the day .
Yeah .
Okay , so I'm guessing . No , they don't remind you of that . A little bit , a little bit . I mean it's just the fact they're white , with a big , toothy smile .
Yeah , yeah , well , they and I don't know they have names like something , cats , but whatever .
Oh , walled cats or something like that . It's something like cats , or I can want to do it like lol cats , but I don't think it's quite that .
So anyway , I guess we're skipping , we're skipping all around .
Yeah , I kind of am , because I realized also my notes started off taking them pretty good with episode one and then they just kind of went all over the place , because I was like yeah , I mean there's some things we don't really need to talk about , like the space battle was kind of like whatever .
Oh , I thought that one was done where she's fighting on the wings of the thing and that that's . they've done that before I know , it just yeah it honestly , when it does come across better . Cartoons kind of puts to here's the thing , she's standing on a plane , shoot the plane .
Don't shoot her .
I was gonna say that I mean my , for love of fucking God , she's flipped around . Okay , don't shoot her . Shoot thing , that's still .
you blow that up , she's just going to float away and then you gotta deal with it , leave her alone , you know yeah .
But then also I think I've seen those really stupid words . She's like floating along and you hear a yell out have you got it working yet ? Or something like that . It's just like huh , I don't know , it looked more cheesy or corny than did you know , dramatic .
I mean , one thing people kind of pointed out was also like a Starkiller , but Starkiller was just , he was much more of a badass . But Starkill actually grabbed spaceships out of the air and I don't know . He made a starter story or crash , so he was insanely . I'm not expecting that from these people on the show , but why didn't ?
you Don't make her do it , but why ?
didn't she ? Why didn't you throw a lightsaber ? Throw the lightsaber and guide it with a force cut off .
That's a good point .
Yeah , you know there was there were other things you could have done , but again we're nitpicking it just overall . I wasn't a huge fan how that went down , but if they needed to get to the planet surface , fine . But then of course we stumble into the whole Star Wars thing about it .
They crashed land on a planet , so , but they don't know where they're going . They don't exactly . If I remember correctly , they don't exactly know where they're supposed to be going for this thing , like it's a whole planet . Like imagine , Sean , imagine if our spaceship crashed in the middle of Italy .
Ok , so we crashed in the middle of Italy , now we got to fix a thing , but oh wait , the giant map thingy is in Arizona . Now what you know , it's not , it's not like we can run there . I mean , I know that they have Jedi super speed , but Sabine doesn't . Yeah , this is true .
So again , this is this is just kind of like suspension of disbelief and that's fine . I mean that's fine , that's , that's just a Star Wars thing .
They've always done it , yeah , and also , like I've heard before , star Wars is written for 12 year olds typically . I mean , whether you want to admit it or not , it's not necessarily written for adults who are going to pick everything apart . It's more written for people who are like , hey , that's cool . Yeah , oh ,
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also too . Speaking of like rampant speculation , what was his name ? Merrick the Dark Souls looking droid that showed up ? Yeah , yeah we got a little spinny blade . A lot before episode four . There was a lot of talk about who he could be . People even thought he was going to be Darth Maul . It turns out .
Yeah , I remember that and we're like it's a reanimated Darth Maul and then also by first I would I sell him was like he looks just like a Dark Souls bad guy and then he gets killed like steam or smoke goes blurry out of me like he dies just like a Dark Souls bad guy .
Well , he died like that and then he had all that stuff come out of him and it was a .
So because he was reanimated by the sisters , wasn't it yeah ?
At first I thought he was made of smoke , which I thought was stupid .
That's what I thought at first too and I thought it was really dumb and then , but yeah , apparently when they reanimate people they use smoke or something .
Yeah , I don't know , like it's , the big the issue I had or the biggest issue I had was why . You know it's just . I have several things like they brought an inquisitor and they definitely named person , but they gave him a name and they also stuff and he better be somebody .
You know he's not going to be , Well , at least do something interesting before he dies , because he's not thinking about .
he's gone because they he got killed on the planet and they they took off .
Yeah , he was expendable , they did not care .
Yeah , unless they come back specifically , they pick up the , definitely they pick up that body . He's done and so they don't think they will . Yeah , I mean there's , there's no reason to . Even if he was like a lot of people are like , oh , it's Starkiller . But I thought I do think he voiced it like someone pointed out one of the little synopsis thing there .
Like it sounds like him , I think it's right . But I mean , but they just like they like Sam Whitworth , you know they like that guy . So they want everywhere if they could have them . Oh yeah , they mean he's been a huge Star Wars fan . He's been one of their biggest like proponents of Star Wars . They , they really do enjoy having him on .
So I can see them bringing on just like , hey , we've got this guy . He needs a voice . He's a nobody . He's on here a couple episodes . You're just saying mainly five lines and then you go home . It's paycheck . So I bet you that's that's what happened . And then you know what , fine , good on him . You know that's . That's totally great .
It's just it get , it's the boner thing . You know like , oh , who's it going to be ? Yeah , it's nobody . He dies in five seconds . Don't worry about it . Nothing you do , and that's the end of that .
Never don't think anymore about it in the future . Certainly do not go online and just discuss your dissatisfaction . Oh , here's a quick fun fact . Um , one of the pilots in episode four you know , when they're flying you go check out the planet and rescue a bunch of but a soka One of those pilots is actually played by Brendan Wade and John Wayne's grandson .
Oh , yeah , yeah . So yeah , brendan Wade and John Wayne's grandson . Now there's a thing you know , not that really matters in one way or another , but yeah , yeah . Well one thing that it's like it's .
I don't know that kid , like that kid is just why I mean , I don't know Like the twilight's kid . Yeah , I would , I would assume , Honestly , God .
When I first saw him I thought he was Boba Fett . He looked like the little kid Boba Fett from the prequels , I think it's the air or something .
Yeah , a little bit , and one moment .
I'm like why are they riding around with kid Boba Fett ? And then I clicked in my head . I'm like , oh , I vaguely remember here .
I vaguely remember hearing that , like twilight's , when they would meet with other races or other things , they would . It would always be a twilight . That being said , though , I don't know where I got that from , because when I did a Google search and Wikipedia took me there , it didn't say anything about that .
Probably from your homemade .
I'm not sure where it came from . Right , I'm not sure where it came from .
That's , you know , from your deepest , darkest fantasies , nathan .
Well , and I also could be mixing it with Mass Effect , because that's how . That's how the blue chicks , that's how that happened .
Oh , that's right . I remember that with the blue they're only more female .
Yeah , they're only born female and they meet with anybody .
Wait are they male twilights too , because I don't know if I've ever seen one . There are , there's a bunch of them .
You know of one . You know what I could tell you one right off the head .
I probably do .
No , I'll give you a hint . Jabba's Palace .
The one dancing was a dude . Oh man , I've got a lot of soul searching to do .
No , who is Jabba's right hand ?
Um Salacious . Oh , that dude , okay , oh , he's a twilight . Yeah , he's twilight . Yeah , he's just got big fortuna with his big neck thing Really .
Oh , I always thought that .
Yeah , I guess it does grow out the back of his head . Huh , yep , he's just got one twilight yeah he's just a one , one tuber or whatever .
Well , there's a bunch of different , like they come in , all different shapes and sizes , like they yeah , well that's why I'm saying their plan has to be hella racist too .
if they come in all those shapes and sizes , oh I'm sure . Well , either that or not .
I mean it's I don't know . There's like it's every .
Oh , we know how I guess we're basically things off of humans .
So well they're . Also . I think they're implied they're created and they didn't like they're creative race and so and they're they're also subservient . So they were a slave race for forever , forever , and so they're more .
They like more recently kind of came out and like the females are typically , because the default twilight female are hot , so that's why a lot of the twilight , this one , when you see , like sex slaves and star wars , they're almost always twilights .
Probably the occasional you walk to , I'm guessing . Oh , it has to be . What's that over there Shaved you walk is has to be .
There's no way Like there's not . You know someone out there who's like get me any walk .
Yeah , oh , you know , at the Star Wars universe there's some dude who's like I'm not going to rest until I've stuck my dick in every possible race that exists in this universe , even those giant whales . I'm going after one of them , buddy .
So , going back to the , what do you think of the final confrontation ? I was fine with it , like it .
I liked it Pretty bold of that one dude to assume you knocked somebody off a cliff and they're done for because it is enough . He was right . He was right , he was right Back instantly .
That makes sense . The only thing I can think of , maybe like he dismissed it was because if she fell off and went to the world between worlds , then I assumed that he couldn't feel her anymore . So he's like , well , that's just going yeah . I struck her with my lightsaber . She fell off a cliff . I don't feel anymore . I think it's safe to say she's gone .
Yeah , yeah , I can buy that totally . That seems like a Balan thing to do Again .
I really like that character .
He's like a more badass OB , one kind of .
He is a pretty bad ass Proper and yeah , and again , I love just how he , how he , I like how he deflected the bolts , I like how he fought .
He was very just like I had a recreation of the Darth Vader scene he did was really good , which is getting kind of old , you know like , okay , we can all agree . The second time we've seen it , though .
Third , oh , third , yeah , I think it's a good one . Luke Skywalker in the second season oh , that's right . Okay , yeah , so I mean it's fine , you know it's fine , it's fine . It's not a one to one , so it's fine .
But I just love how he , how , how , like calculating it is because he's not doing , he's not doing any fancy moves , he's not spinning and doing all the stuff .
Even when he's fine , he's just there to do a job . That's what I like about him . He's like I'm not really him . Yeah , I'm neutral evil . I'm just trying to do my job . Get out .
He fought her . He made them the the most minimal movement he could do to block and strike . You know , he was very just and I think his lightsaber was longer , so it was almost like a long sword , or a bastard sword , if you will .
Yeah , Like the like a two-handed sword , almost .
Yeah , I really enjoyed cause he went with the size . He's fucking huge . So I really enjoyed that fight . Again I kind of wish it was faster pace because again everyone thinks they think lightsaber battles , they think , um , flippy , flippy yeah . They think Anakin versus they think Anakin versus Obi-Wan . That's either that or a mall versus Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon .
Which . I mean , those fights are fine too , but I think there's room for both of them in the universe . Oh , yeah . Cause they go into great detail , being like there's 32 different ways to fight with a lightsaber or all the different . You know forms and stuff , so not all of them have to be fast flippy flippy ?
Absolutely not .
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I just want . I just want at least to be cinematic . You know , I want and this , I know it's it's dumb I'm reaching for the stars , but I want every lightsaber to be battle , be cinematic , which is why .
I want more backflips and stuff for well , not as much as how I shoot you know what .
I'd be happy to see no backflips , but I want to see , like um them going for it , not like oh strike , strike , wait , strike , wait , strike strike , strike , strike , strike .
Some of that might also be the fact they're doing in that big vision dome kind of thing too .
You know what ? You could still have ? That big vision dome you could read , even your like you could do it from a basement . I mean yeah .
Well , I mean one thing you can't really do it . Well , I guess you could put objects in the vision dome , but you can't really be like fighting in between trees or in like a warehouse dodging boxes .
It would just take there have been plenty of um , asian cinema where it's fast paced , brutal store fights that you know are cinematic , and you throw force powers in there . Then you can kind of look at anime too , like there's some . Again , I get it , this is not anime , it's real live action .
But there are so many different ways you could have made it look better . It looked fine , it just I wanted to look better . And then that's where I cut back to the sub beam and the not sith chick , where it's like it could have been . Come on , you know , come on , just be better , both of you . And one of the things about like .
I remember reading this way back in the day and I think it was from I saw this from Kotor , the original national republic . You're saying , if you don't have force powers , you cannot use a lightsaber , because if you do , the chances are extremely lucky you're going to cut your own head off . So that's why they're like .
If you , unless you're a force user , don't like , don't try Now , unless you're really skilled . Like Boba Fett . He used the light saber several times in his , in all of his career , in comic books , video games and you know whatnot and like . He's used a lightsaber , but he doesn't use that as primary weapon .
He uses like oh shit , this person also is a lightsaber . I'm going to use it to deflect his strikes , but I'm still going to shoot his ass . You know , I'm not trying to like , you know .
I'm not going to . I'm going to tell you that Sabine did much better when she's using her Mandalore weapons , and she really did suck when she was trying to use the lightsaber . So I mean stick with it .
You're good Like you're a Mandalorian Roll with it . Don't don't try to make yourself something you're not because you're not a Jedi . You're so badass because you got the sword right there and like why I understand , like we're sticking with the main character , we're sticking with all them .
And you know we don't want to go , we don't want to veer too far introducing new characters , because you know we're rolling with the rebel crew , fine , but why didn't they bring in , like a new apprentice ? They could like , oh , like they could introduce someone else new . They could have , you know , grabbed another character because it's a the Star Wars .
You know for the rife with characters you could use , so be kind of gone with them . You're like , oh , hey , I'm going to to go on this . I'm your handyman and Lauren , you need a rocket shot , you need a laser shot , you need someone roped up , you need some . You know some dirty work done . You need some sabotage . I'm your fucking girl .
But you have this , this pattern , one we're rolling with . That could also be . You know what Just came to me ? Why didn't they take the son of the girl like the green hair kid ? Because they heavily implied at the end of the last episode he's , he's four sensitive , he goes , I have a bad feeling about this yeah . Because he's a .
He's a son of a Jedi , so of course he has source powers . There you go , Ta-da , there's your apprentice . He's rolling with Ahsoka going out there because mom's all worried about him . But she's like , go out there and learn stuff . And he's got who has his back ? Sabine . But nope , we're going to try to force Sabine to a whole lot of saver .
Because they're going to make her into a Jedi eventually . They want to make her into a Jedi , especially with that one line . There's one line People are going nuts over . It's like the droid says few Mandalorian have become Jedi and people are assuming that means that there's multiple Mandalorian Jedi's that we haven't heard about .
There is . There is one I can't remember his name because , as I mentioned , I had terrible names and I he's also not in Canada anymore , but there was .
There was in the books um , during the Clone Wars , a one of the Jedi's that ran around with the , the clones um , became Mandalorian because in the in that series , before everything went haywire , um , a Mandalorian was not a blood type , it was not a race , it was someone who took the creed .
And like a cult basic .
Yeah , and he joined the cult and he joined full hearted , like he was all in , and so he actually became a Jedi , and to the point where they basically kind of used him to to seek out other forces , not to hunt them down , but if someone rolled up and they were like a force , he's a Jedi , he can go , they're a Jedi or they're a Sith , he just because
he could feel it and he I don't know , I can't remember his name , but he was actually put in that book series , um , republic of Mando series . He was actually pretty badass .
Yeah , that's what I always heard is there's just that one Mandalorian that made it as a Jedi , but apparently they're excuse me people are saying that they're hinting towards there being multiple on this one , or it could just be people over . You know , analyzing the word few , because I mean one , is also very
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so . Here's a dividing character chopper , the droid . Love them or hate them , and it's sassiness .
Well , it's cause . Here's the thing , it's not his hands on his hips . Yeah , it's dude .
That's sassiness . He put his hands on his hips and said oh no , you don't at one point or something like that .
He is sass . No , he said . Oh , yes , you did . He is sassy , I'll give you that . But like he's also a , he is a straight up cold blooded killer . Oh yeah , he's a war criminal .
I heard him repeatedly referred to as a war criminal , killing multiple , multiple people .
Not give an F Like he . I think at one point he uh , I mean , yeah , they were all um Imperial , but he straight up murdered 50,000 people , like on a ship and just like Luke , if you listen to his talking , she's like , oh , if we shoot this , these ships down , they'll crash into the city and he goes .
I've seen , if you see the subtitles , you know he's like and that's a bad thing or something like that , but yeah , so what Fuck him . Also , that droid is voiced by David Filoni as well .
Oh yeah .
Yeah .
Yeah , so I do , I would . I was not a shop chopper . Um , yeah , I don't stop you . Yeah , you , if you're , if you get an not really short video here . Um , you see a YouTuber井 , whatever . Yeah , my first I was like , oh , just the R2D2 rip off , whatever . But after watching him on Rebels , no man like he's , he's pretty hardcore .
I'm kind of torn on because I don't know him from Rebels . I just know him kind of being the overly sassy droid from this who hasn't really done much to earn my love . But yeah , once I heard he was a work criminal I kind of liked him a little .
Yeah , I will say that , like he has not in this show , he has not done enough .
Yeah , he almost just seems more like he's there to sell toys in this series than he is to actually be a real character , kind of because just because he's just there , sassy quip Woo . Look , this droid's got little hands he can put on his hips and be like Rup Rup Rup .
I hope he does like some more happens with him because he is , yeah , he like kills a whole bunch of young or something you know didn't even have to , Anakin but do you ?
what do you think ?
And again the end .
Yeah , I mean never mind how he looked , because we already talked about how he ?
looked but like just the fact that he's there , I think it's actually going to be him . I kind of wanted to be something else . I want to be like a miss or you know , one of those like force , which is like fucking with her , but I have feelings going to be saying they're going to have a heart to heart .
Yeah , I mean honestly , I want to listen to something . What the stops there ? Like we be happy if they just like the whole 40 minutes was just them talking . And I'll be honest with you , I would like that too . You know , just I really do . I I dig Anakin . He's one of my favorite characters .
I like Darth Vader as well , but Anakin was , was great and you have to understand Soka .
It's like sand it gets everywhere . Ok , let me .
That's not so much , but Anakin of the .
Anakin from the Anakin .
No , totally I'm with you , man . I appreciate it . Yeah , I'm banging my chest , I guess , but no , like the Anakin that was expanded from the shows .
Yeah , that's cheating . I got his redemption . Art quote , unquote redemption .
Right , I mean because they really did like in the episode Episode one , whatever , he was a kid you stupid . Episode two , he was a oney little bitch . And episode three , he's got he's kind of a little being more himself and still I don't know like it wasn't enough to redeem the episode .
He still kind of died like a little bitch at the end Still .
Yeah , yeah .
The fight was cool and all that , but still , yeah , yeah .
Yeah , and but in the series , the Clone Wars , they really fleshed out his character and you can kind of see how he got to where he got , and so , based on the Clone Wars , anakin , I really I would really looking forward to seeing what happens .
I think it is him because , I mean , there was so many different adventures he did Like during the Clone Wars , stuff like that , although it doesn't make sense because Clone Wars did last like that long but they went everywhere . Yeah , that's fine .
Whatever , it's only two years , but he has 8000 separate adventures during that time . Yeah , I mean , it's fine .
I was like I was the funny thing about Saul , Saul Wolverine . Way back in the day I saw was a Twisted Toy Fair where there's like Wolverine's , like he's , because he was at that point in every single comic . He was just like you're like , run around , do an adventure , come home , sleep for like a minute and then get around the door .
He's like . Well , I got to fly from Canada all the way to New York for Spiderman . Then on Sunday I got to go out to San Francisco .
It was exactly that . Yeah , exactly that .
So I remember that time period . It's like hey , everybody loves Wolverine , we'll put him every fucking way , everything , there was not nothing he was in it , yeah , and it wasn't always consistent through all the comics either , because everybody wrote him a dream just a little differently . So sometimes you kind of got like weird out there kind of things yeah .
So anyway , I really , I really hope it , I think it is him . I also do think it's him . I hope the CG is a little better next time , maybe , like I don't know if they can do the last minute fixes , but they , they need to do what they do with Luke , like , ok , d-agent's fine , but you just need to read his fucking face .
I mean at this point , because the D-Aging thing isn't quite there yet Because even when he showed up on Obi-Wan he looked pretty good , but he didn't look great . You can still tell like that's not 20-something year old Anakin , that's like , yeah , that's a 40-something year old Anakin with some filter slap .
Yeah , some of that D-Aging doesn't work that good . Do you see that one clip ? It's a . It was a mobster movie with a D-Age Robert De Niro down to like his 30s .
I saw that he's still the same .
He did . I didn't , I didn't see the difference . But they had that scene where he like stomps a dude in the streets and it's literally like a 75 year old man trying to put the boots to somebody and it's just the most awkward looking thing you've ever seen , I mean it is bad . Have you seen that actual scene though ?
Well , I've seen the movie . Ok , I can't remember that scene , but I've seen the movie . I'll send it to you later , it's oh , dude , it's bad .
Ok , my last couple of little plots here . When a soka falls down on that little path you know talking to and talking about , they're going to . I have this bad feeling they're going to make a mobile running game out of that , because that's exactly what it looked like to me .
It's like , hey , start running down this road and jump over things now and then Swagger lightsaber force goes . Remember those running mobile games on your back in the day . Yeah , as soon as you land on them like that looks like one of those things that are the Dragon Ball Z highway to hell thing that they .
Oh right , I can't remember , I can't remember , but like the snake path , yeah .
Yeah , oh yeah , I think that's what was Snake Road Snake .
Road , that's what .
I'm I have a way out there theory where this whole series is going and you'll probably laugh at it , but I base this off the fact they reference a few times have been like hey Enril Thrawn . He's somewhere in time and space and they also bring up these fucking , these gates a lot .
Remember the last time we saw all these like time space gates in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic ? I think this series might take us back to the Old Republic for a little bit and possibly even set up a series back then .
I have a feeling they're going to be like hey Thrawn's back in time as well as being across the universe , so we might actually get them pop back , set up the Old Republic , few characters pop back to the normal time and then , you know , maybe have a spin off Old Republic series . That would be actually pretty interesting .
I mean they have to bring the Old Republic to Star Wars . They have to have .
They're going to . I think they're going to do that separate series . I don't think you on this one .
Yeah , I don't think . Well , I don't think they're going to like , I think they're just going to basically touch on the fact hey , there is an Old Republic in this series . They're not really going to do much of it . They'd be like , hey , there's an Old Republic , oh , wow , we should come back and visit that someday .
And then , like , two years from now , there'll be a series coming out .
I mean , I mean , if they did that sort of
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public . The thing is that was 10,000 years before all this happened , so you can do whatever you wanted . Yeah , it doesn't , it doesn't matter . You like , you know , at that point there's no cannon holding you down . You know just .
Yeah , but I think they just I don't know they at least they feel they need somebody like from the modern era to go back and touch back .
That way they you know , we can have a soak go around and be like , oh , these are obviously the good guys and obviously the bad guys and set up the whole scene because , yeah , not everybody knows about the Old Republic , true , yeah . Also , they even reference some of the Old Republic races in this too . God , what was the one ?
It just the racatons they actually reference in this and an Andor oh yeah , they were the ones who made the Star Forge right ? Yes , yeah , andor , they actually brought it up to his one the little gyms that what's his butt got and or got from the doorkeep .
Yeah , I mean I'm probably wrong , but I have a feeling they'll use this as a bridge to bring up the hey , there's an older public that exists . We'll go visit again .
I don't have any wild theories like that , I just think it's going to be . You know , if that is actually him , they can't , obviously can't change time , but like it could be one of those things where he's he was like oh yeah , I'm here , but when I leave here I'm going to forget everything , because of course he has to .
You know , I don't know how to explain it , or it's a different version of him , or I think what they're going to do is they're going to be like hey , when Darth Vader took over , the good part of me died this is a good part of me , of course and he's going to give her like a five seconds speech , pep speech , and then that's going to be the end of it
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It's going to be nothing interesting . They hope that . Hopefully it's some , because the music actually kind of did a little .
Vader . Yeah , people are all saying that's why he might be the bad guy in the thing , but I don't know . I just have the feeling he's going to be like you have to keep pushing , you have to keep going , so for all of us , and that's going to be the end of it and she's going to wake up like floating on a river .
Yeah , or you know , she's actually doing this whole thing where she feels bad for leaving him , so she's going to like yeah and this will be her redemption thing and then they'll have this whole thing .
Did he , did she really talk to him ? Or was it just her emotion ? I don't know . I would like it to be something interesting and exciting , but I just have feelings it's just going to be like a hey , here's your raw , raw speech . You just got your ass kicked , but you can't stay down and she will .
I've got this speech .
A million times We've been scarred by boner . Yeah , yeah , we have . We got scarred up boners now , thanks to the Marvel Cinematic Universe . Damn you Marvel .
Also , do you think there's going to be a moment where Sabine has to fight blinded , like Zetsuichi , which I referenced , because they do put a blind helmet on her and you think this is going to be kind of one of those 24 shadowing . I kind of hope not Because that's like too obvious of four shadowing , but that's too like regular Star Wars .
Like that's just what they do Like yeah , Well , Luke , they do it like .
Baylands like Solar Flare and she's like , oh God , I can't see .
Yeah , I mean it's . They did that with the Rebel series Like the . That guy got blinded at one point . I mean just it . It's generic , Like part of the training to be a Jedi is putting that stupid thing on where you can't see so .
I don't want to recap . I saw showed that scene from the prequels where it's all the little kids training with the yeah , I flash that , God that seems that's seen so bad looking . Yeah , I mean , it's just bad looking . Then again , it's hard to direct kids , so whatever , yeah , yeah , all right .
Thinking back to that fucking Ewoks actress , girl , god just give up , do something else . Yeah , just read these lines after me , repeat after me . So I got my theory . We're going to go to the old Republic eventually , because I mean , they just this fact that bring up time and space so often .
Also , I did like the part where they hyperspace through all the people and kill a bunch of them . That was kind of what happened if you hyperspace and just like went through somebody because that was pretty sweet .
I actually I'm glad they did that . I thought honestly they were to kill them all , but of course they couldn't because there were so many characters in there .
Yeah To a couple of them died , but yeah the ones you never saw before until just now .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , exactly .
And then there's like the two that we see all the time , and it makes me think there's only like a dozen X-wing pilots in the entire fucking galaxy . Yeah .
There's , I feel like we're just seeing like the same guys resort .
It's like , hey , that Asian dude and porkens are like the old ones around .
Yeah Well , it was like okay , here's a big giant ship with two of the main characters and there's another guy in an X-wing who has been in several episodes of Mandalorian .
So he's not . And then there's these two guys who never seem to be . Which ones are going to die ?
on a very special episode . Yeah , don't , don't even bother their names , it's just .
Yeah , right . And this one jet , we got Luke Perry and this other one we've got Right Person . We've never seen before who's going to live .
It's the best friend of the DJ .
What happened ? Good times , good times .
Good times .
All right . So I think we talked enough about this , and I'm really looking forward to seeing it .
I'm looking forward to talking about what's all said and done , about talking about then . Yeah , I've been enjoying it , it's good .
I love people , I love it .
It's my thing . It's not as good as Andor , but significantly better than Obi-Wan .
Yeah , I think it's better than Mandalorian or not Mandalorian , but Book of Boba Fett oh Jesus . Yeah , I'll get beat that one too . Yeah , book of Boba Fett could have been good if they'd like edited differently or something , I don't know . No , it was like it needed more than that .
It needed a better writing . It needed better action . It needed better writing honestly because again , with with , with , it's like writing a panthor , yeah .
Yeah .
It just need well , it need better writing . It needed like a plot . They should have changed the timing , the whole fucking thing . There was no reason for him to be in the back to tank and doing flashbacks . There's none of that Like no , they should have just the episode one .
He's , you know , he wakes up but he's outside the Starlight pit and then he gets picked up by the Sam people and then he , you know , he comes back and he does the thing and then the people all get killed . He should come , he goes , look for his armor , and I mean there's no reason to keep on doing the flashbacks . It was done .
There was no revelations .
The way you're reading it out now , it almost seems like we've been better as a written short story than a fucking five episode TV series or like that whole , like the whole thing , like could have been done in one episode , like that could have summed up almost the entire thing in one episode and then gone from there , like , okay , now he's in , they , they
shouldn't have saddled him . Like he's like oh , I'm the boss now of the city . Okay , well , once he did that he was saddled .
You know , because part of the thing about Boa .
Fett . One of the people reason why people love Boa Fett is the fact that he's just like galaxy crossing bounty hunter .
Yeah , we're going to set him up . It looks like as a there's a very bad example , but like a Star Wars cowboy bebop or he just goes around the galaxy doing odd jobs for money . Good jobs , bad jobs , yeah .
Or like they could have not , could have gone like oh yeah , well , I don't know , a rogue clone with a clone aliens is looking for him because he has unadult , he has unaltered DNA from Django Fett , and so you know , he worked out so well . They , they want to get him to make more clones .
They can't really use the old clothes stock .
Yeah Well , because they can't use the old clothes because they were genetically altered and they were also . Their aging was sped up , so they're like , too tampered with . They need another , pure source . Because he is a direct clone of Django , they need him , so they start sending people after him .
He has to find out who's the person , who's funny , and so there's a big battle . Like he keeps on getting , he's hunted while he's hunting someone else there . I just made that up right now .
Yeah , it sounds a lot better . I like the start where it's like him doing the bounties with somebody hunting him at the same time .
Yeah , but nope , it sounds like .
Sam Ra's shoot shampoo kind of thing almost .
Yeah , and so we're . Instead , we're going to plop in a little of a city where he's the leader now and then you've got to deal with that bullshit and I mean honestly , they could have done that in a cool way , but they didn't . No , no , they made it more like a cool way to do that , but I thought , yeah .
Yeah , they made him like a CD . You know , under belly rule they may turn him in like the kingpin of that town or something . Then , yeah , instead of him just being like hey , I'm going to be a good guy from now on .
Right , and then strictly good guy , then take some of your Disney money and hire actors , like when Jabba was there , he had his , his palace was always full of people because , yeah , they're always full of people .
That's the way palaces are . They're full of people . When you want to palace , you want people there . They're your subjects , basically , or you're just throwing bad ass parties .
So I don't know , man , it's , it's really , it's just Anyway , we're we again . Once again beard off the soak , yeah .
Well , at least we stayed in the Star Wars universe . We didn't go straight to the Punisher , true , and although Punisher is owned by Marvel and Marvel's owned by Disney too . So yeah , yes , soon , everything will be Disney . Go to a Disney .
Part of me is like yay , the other part was like oh , that's actually really bad . Yeah , right , because I always like the idea of like . When they like oh , x-men's can be Marvel , now like X-Men's can be Disney , yeah , they can all be together . And as a as a comic nerd , yay .
But then as someone who realizes , oh wait , all of my media being in the hands of one company , that's actually not right , yeah .
It's one of those things it'll be like if Disney buys DC and also we're just like yay , crossovers . Oh , wait a minute , this isn't good , this isn't good at all . So , like when Microsoft buys up all those game companies like is this bad , is this good ? It feels more bad than good . Yeah , it does feel more bad than good .
All right , well , you go feed yourself and your old kin and we are good .
Yes , wait , wait , wait . You guys say goodbye . Yes .
Oh shit . So we'll be back in four weeks to talk about the end of a soka and what we thought . The entire series in whole see how close we were on our predictions that we made and Well , we'll be like that .
You look forward to it . Are we doing this or posting this like ASAP ?
I was going to post on Tuesday , I think , okay .
So should we plug our next ? What you're going to do next .
Yeah , we could do that . Next episode is going to after this . One is going to be Alf . Yay , yay , I loved Alf . Yay , I liked Alf too . I still have an Alf doll somewhere , really , was it one of the 22 inch ones ? Yeah , or yeah , really yeah , those things .
If I recall from my research for her a little tidbit , I think they sold like 80 million of those or something like that . It was like what , the biggest selling toy Actually ?
no , I took it back . I think it was 22 inch . It's smaller , maybe it's 16 .
Yeah , I know there was like one model of the doll that just sold gangbusters for a few years it might be 16 .
In my head , in my mind's eye , I get smaller than that , but it could be , it could have been 16 . Maybe it was 16 .
They said , yeah , I don't know , we'll figure it out , We'll talk about that soon and then we can talk about a soka again . Hey , yep , actually , do you want to talk about a soka after a couple episodes or wait until four episodes are over ? Let's put the four episodes , because we did four and four .
Yeah , that's what I figured we're going to do , because after , after Alph , we're going to do doing a strongman from the 1950s through present , kind of that'll be interesting , and I've never heard that motherfucker ever . I never did either , until I caught an article about him like , hey , this is kind of interesting , we'll make for a good read .
We'll learn some stuff . We'll learn what to do and what not to do as a world famous strongman ,
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right . Yeah , yeah , yeah , that danger that , unless we somehow get teleported to some planet where we're just like monster gods who are stronger than anybody there , there , you go . Cool . Yeah Well , thanks for joining us . Yes , thanks for joining us here . And off to off topic . Stay tuned next week for more off to off Topic .
And here's our little jingle Bye , alright , bye , bye .