[SPEAKER_01]: a factual data creation facility production. [SPEAKER_03]: In a world where some podcasts make millions of dollars, I bring you the OF&T podcast, which isn't one of them. [SPEAKER_03]: Now, here's your host, Jim Schafer. [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to episode 324, which I'm calling, Agintic Operating Systems. [SPEAKER_02]: Microsoft held its annual build conference last week and announced the company is moving away from the traditional operating systems.
[SPEAKER_02]: More on this in the tech I'm using section. [SPEAKER_02]: My lovely wife, though delayed by circumstance, is beyond her control, has managed to make it back home in one piece. [SPEAKER_02]: Everything is right again within my old, hard-world now. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's get this thing going. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes! [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes! [SPEAKER_02]: It's an Apple Heavy News section this week but pain that's to be expected as WWDC is but a day away.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll file this first story as a case of give the public a product they're not asking for. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the headline from Mac Roomer's quote. [SPEAKER_02]: The story is based on Bloomberg's Mark German's power on newsletter. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we owe Mr. German our gratitude. [SPEAKER_02]: If it weren't for him, all the apple centric websites would hardly have much of anything to write about. [SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: They'd be resorting to writing articles about what they like or don't like about their devices, software, and what apps they've replaced other apps with. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what tick journalists that cover the Android operating system do when the news gets slow. [SPEAKER_02]: This leads me to the conclusion that what the Android centric tick press needs is its own version of Mark German. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Now back to the article. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's one thing I haven't heard from any Apple enthusiast since the original revision pro was released back in 2024. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's where another albeit lighter version of the Vision Pro, its dead gym, as Star Trek fans like to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: According to German, Apple is still working on a cheaper lighter version of this unpopular product, despite him previously declaring that the Vision Pro team has been reassigned and that [SPEAKER_02]: about Apple instead concentrate on augmented reality smart classes. [SPEAKER_02]: Can't we, in By We, I mean Apple and the tech press, admit that the vision pro is and will always be a niche product, especially at its $3,500 price tag.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got that right? [SPEAKER_02]: No matter how cool, spatial computing sounds consumers don't want to compute with goggles trapped at their heads while waving around their arms. [SPEAKER_02]: German also stated that this new cheaper lighter vision pro is not to be confused with the canceled vision air product. [SPEAKER_02]: And what do you think Apple canceled the vision air? [SPEAKER_02]: They canceled it because of the systemic sales of the original vision pro.
[SPEAKER_02]: Update, we have a new leaker on x who calls themselves hip-picks, and lately they've been busy stoking the rumors of a new vision pro. [SPEAKER_02]: According to Apple Insider, PipFix has been uploading photos of a vision pro but wait for it, it's in the color black. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm sure this new color will immediately cause the slumping sales of the vision pro to skyrocket after this color is released.
[SPEAKER_03]: But after hearing myself say that just now, my guess is probably not. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the folks over at Applin Cider pointed out that the headband shown in the photos of this black vision pro is of the older Solo strap, which has been replaced by the current mesh headband. [SPEAKER_02]: They concluded that what these photos are actually showing are an older M2 chip vision pro prototype, not the newest M5 chip model. [SPEAKER_02]: So let's call this leak what it really is.
[SPEAKER_00]: You are fake news. [SPEAKER_02]: And speaking of smart classes, 9-5 Mac has an article in, like the previous story, quotes Bloomberg's Mark German is saying that Apple's smart classes have been pushed back to late 2027. [SPEAKER_02]: an apple time this could be December 31st of 2027. [SPEAKER_02]: Now these smart glasses aren't the ones with a display.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are the audio only versions like the Android XR glasses preview during last month's Google I.O. [SPEAKER_02]: Unlike the Android XR specs, Apple's version would be assisted by cameras mounted upon a pair of AirPods to be sold separately of course. [SPEAKER_02]: Will of course [SPEAKER_02]: This would at least give them something called visual intelligence. [SPEAKER_02]: The question I have is, what's holding these smart glasses up?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it says more to do with the camera equipped airbots and he glasses themselves. [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think? [SPEAKER_02]: For this week's final story about Apple Smart Glasses, we have a new report from the former King of Supply Chain analysts. [SPEAKER_02]: Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Mr. Ming Cheek Whoa! [SPEAKER_02]: Last year, Mr. Quope stated that Apple had seven catam-seven head-mounted wearables in various stages of development.
[SPEAKER_02]: In his latest post on X, Quall was claiming that incoming Apple CEO, Mr. John Ternis has drastically scaled back this development, and has whittled it down to only two projects. [SPEAKER_02]: And those are the playlist AI classes, which he says will ship in 2027, and display equipped AR smart classes, which have a targeted release date of sometime in 2028. [SPEAKER_02]: Why is it is? [SPEAKER_02]: Hold on, let me pat my stuff on the back. [SPEAKER_02]: There.
[SPEAKER_02]: According to Mr. Quill, any new vision pro replacements have been dropped from Apple's role map. [SPEAKER_02]: So can the tech press stop themselves from any further speculation about future updates to it and any new vision probe products now? [SPEAKER_03]: But what will the Apple centric tech press have to fall back on? [SPEAKER_03]: If it's a slow Apple news cycle then. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: That's their problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then wouldn't this be a problem for yourself too? [SPEAKER_02]: Nah. [SPEAKER_02]: I've got many rancid old fart stories that can always fall back on for content. [SPEAKER_02]: Enough about the failed vision probe now. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: This next Apple story has to do with the MacBook Neo, rather the success of it. [SPEAKER_02]: Mac Rumors, again quoting Mr. Ming Qi Quo.
[SPEAKER_02]: says that Apple has doubled the shipments of the lower-cost MacBook from 5 to 10 million units. [SPEAKER_03]: But we already knew that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but here's something we didn't know. [SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Quill also believes that a second generation of the Neo will release in 2027, and have an A19 Pro chip powering it, and will come with 12 gigabytes of RAM. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's up from the 8 gigabytes of RAM that the current Neo comes with.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you were considering the purchase of NEO, and can afford to hold out until next year, you'll be buying him much better computer. [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if the MacBook Neo will join the release timeline of the E-series of iPhones and iPads. [SPEAKER_02]: I guess time will tell.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been hearing about the imminent release of the new Apple TV streaming box and home [SPEAKER_02]: The tech presses now unified conjecture poised to Apple waiting for the new improved Siri which is slated to arrive with OS 27 this autumn, September to be precise. [SPEAKER_02]: According to multiple sources to include Mac Rumors and 9 to 5 Mac, besides updated internals, there will be no design changes of the products.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where is my Apple 4K streaming box with a built-in FaceTime camera? [SPEAKER_03]: That product seems to only exist inside the dreams of Mr. German, I guess. [SPEAKER_03]: Aren't you forgetting something? [SPEAKER_03]: My bad. [SPEAKER_03]: I meant to say Bloomberg's Mark German. [SPEAKER_02]: That's better. [SPEAKER_02]: With no updated design apparently coming, there's no reason for me to bother buying either one of these products.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm going to sit this one out. [SPEAKER_02]: What about you? [SPEAKER_02]: Last episode I reported on Apple Music's apps in minute and least on Android. [SPEAKER_02]: I also reported that an ex-user named Aaron Paris found that there were three unusual lines of code. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, unusual compared to the iOS version of the app. [SPEAKER_02]: These were actually error messages that had to do with skipping tracks and needing to have a premium subscription.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had positive that perhaps Apple Music would have an ad-supported free tier, but the author of that article thought it was more likely that it would be an ad-supported paid tier. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the people over an Android authority agree with my initial free tier hypothesis. [SPEAKER_02]: According to the article, an Apple Music Free ad-supported offering would be better to compete with Spotify.
[SPEAKER_02]: They also agree that by having a free tier it would attract more users. [SPEAKER_02]: As I had said it in my initial report previously, Apple's head of music was opposed to said free tier, citing low artist revenue and the overall devaluing of services. [SPEAKER_02]: Translation. [SPEAKER_02]: We at Apple really care about artists, but we care more about our revenue stream.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we were to offer a free tier for Apple Music, then the consumers would want free tiers on all of our costly services. [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we'll have to sit back and wait to see which way this goes. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, though for certain, when the giant fruit company actually releases Apple Music for Android. [SPEAKER_02]: If you're a user of the messaging app, what's app? [SPEAKER_02]: I have some good or perhaps bad news for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: A while ago I reported that a premium subscription tier for what's app was in beta testing. [SPEAKER_02]: I also pointed out that this new premium subscription tier didn't seem to be worth the edited expense. [SPEAKER_02]: To review, you'd be getting premium stickers. [SPEAKER_02]: The ability to change the app's theme in extra chat. [SPEAKER_02]: and upgrade your chat lists.
[SPEAKER_02]: In my opinion, none of these added features do much to enhance the basic function of WhatsApp. [SPEAKER_02]: Which, of course, is to communicate. [SPEAKER_02]: This paid WhatsApp tier has finally come out of beta and has been crowned WhatsApp plus how original of meta. [SPEAKER_02]: According to TechRunch, WhatsApp plus is rolling out right now. [SPEAKER_02]: If what's app is your main communication method, perhaps the $2.99 per month subscription price is worth it to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: For now, advertisements remain in a separate tab, but this can change in the future. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe when meta, the owner of what's app decides more cash flow is needed and will appear in conversations. [SPEAKER_02]: That is, also launching subscription tiers for Instagram and Facebook. [SPEAKER_02]: Besides the Facebook Messenger, do people really still use Facebook? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, boomers like you still are using it. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't identify as a boomer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm more of a generation Jones kind of guy. [SPEAKER_02]: You don't know what Jen Jones is, look it up. [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any interest in subscribing to What's App Plus? [SPEAKER_02]: Microsoft's annual build conference took place this past Monday and Tuesday. [SPEAKER_02]: What is this Microsoft build you speak of?
[SPEAKER_02]: Build is Microsoft's equivalent to Apple's WWDC and Google's I.O. [SPEAKER_02]: Build used to be one of if not the biggest tech conferences of the year. [SPEAKER_02]: Or they have heavy tech press reporting. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, things have changed. [SPEAKER_02]: Though build in Microsoft itself had started fading into a Revolence before the Windows 11 backlash, in my opinion, want to Microsoft withdrew from the mobile phone and operating system market?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the writing was on the wall, but you're biased, aren't you? [SPEAKER_02]: I must admit that I am. [SPEAKER_02]: I was a committed Windows phone user, even with the lack of apps for the platform. [SPEAKER_02]: But drawing from mobile was the beginning of the downfall for the company, and they're now starting to reap what they have sold. [SPEAKER_02]: I hadn't even realized that build was taking place until they run down a bit appeared on Cnet's YouTube feed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I watched the run down and followed that up with a good old fashioned web search. [SPEAKER_02]: The big pitch was, oh wait, don't tell me, um, more AI. [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, we can expect the same from Apple during the coming WWDC. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a way it is. [SPEAKER_02]: Like Samsung's last unpacked event, and a bit like this year's Google I.O., the term agentic was the name of the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: The difference being that Microsoft's CEO Nadella is a true believer, and is all in on the AI bluster. [SPEAKER_02]: A Gentic refers to an AI script that can autonomously set goals while also having the ability to plan and execute tasks with almost no human intervention. [SPEAKER_02]: That sounds kind of dystopian to me, but then again, I am an old fart after all. [SPEAKER_02]: I still like setting my own goals and at least have some input on what methods are used to attain them.
[SPEAKER_02]: For now, Mr. Nadella's focus was on how this agente stuff can be applied to businesses. [SPEAKER_02]: The big quote from the CEO was, quote, there's a real platform shift. [SPEAKER_02]: We're moving from building operating systems, devices for apps to an agent-first-future, unquote. [SPEAKER_04]: What? [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I've long predicted that AI would eventually become the operating system. [SPEAKER_02]: What I didn't expect was Microsoft being the first to attempt it.
[SPEAKER_03]: This AI shift has been given an aim. [SPEAKER_03]: So you know that Microsoft is really serious about this. [SPEAKER_03]: The name for this is Project Solara. [SPEAKER_02]: And the big partner for this is Qualcomm. [SPEAKER_02]: Project Slarer will include AI custom hardware and its own infrastructure. [SPEAKER_02]: To include developer PCs, special editions of Windows, developer classes, an Android-based OS for AI agent devices and an ex-generation quantum computing chip.
[SPEAKER_02]: With the goal of releasing a practical quantum computer by 2029, I hadn't realized that quantum [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea what I do have doubts that it is. [SPEAKER_02]: However, I haven't really been keeping up with the state of quantum computing. [SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps I should attempt doing so. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yes! [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, this is quite the bold plan Microsoft has going here. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, good luck with that, bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: After learning about all this, my advice for the humble, normal computer user is just which two Linux or Mac OS. [SPEAKER_02]: It's obvious to me that Microsoft no longer cares about the general consumer, so why bother staying within the Windows ecosystem? [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully, game developers get the message and start porting and make a game for Linux and maybe even macOS. [SPEAKER_02]: If they don't, the Steam Gaming ecosystem will become dominant.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if that happens, why would you even need a Windows-based PC? [SPEAKER_02]: If you absolutely have to use Microsoft productivity apps, you can use Office 365. [SPEAKER_02]: What you're taking on Solaris and what it could bring. [SPEAKER_02]: Ask for myself, I'll remain in scond within the peaceful, walled garden ecosystem of the giant fruit company.
[SPEAKER_02]: At least until I still have the option of turning off a gintick AI or whatever, Apple made decide to call their version of it while using their operating systems. [SPEAKER_02]: Upon further pondering on Microsoft's build conference, spurred on by the boys on the no agenda podcast who had a clip from a Jensen Wang founder of NVIDIA, you know, the company making the chips that are powering the AI explosion. [SPEAKER_02]: that I had not seen or heard previously.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Wang, who was giving a speech at a conference in Korea, predicted that AI models will soon be run locally as an on your personal computer. [SPEAKER_03]: What about all those multi-billion dollar investments in AI data centers? [SPEAKER_02]: What about them, indeed? [SPEAKER_02]: Now I can understand why this speech didn't get any airplay on mainstream tech media outlets. [SPEAKER_02]: Wall Street would have reacted negatively to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: What wasn't said, but was definitely inferred was that these now future self-hosted large language model AIs would not require the consumer to pay for any AI services. [SPEAKER_02]: And wouldn't have the need for applications. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh no, you don't. [SPEAKER_02]: Instead, you would just ask the AI to accomplish a specific task for you. [SPEAKER_02]: Way back before personal computers existed. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy, here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: You would have to rent a time on a mainframe computer in order to do any kind of computing at all. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what using AI is modeled after currently. [SPEAKER_02]: You purchase tokens from large corporations in order to use their products. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the real winners here are and will continue to be the Memory Manufacturers. [SPEAKER_02]: This self-hosting of these large language models will require RAM and storage, and plenty of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: This makes me believe that there is actually a C change coming to the computing industry. [SPEAKER_03]: So now you've become a true AI believer? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, not in its current form. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a strange world where living in brothers and sisters, for this podcast, it would be mainly brothers, I'd say. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this podcast isn't a true crime, is it? [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: Some would say this whole podcast could be considered a crime.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, not me though. [SPEAKER_02]: Tech that I'm using, or trying to use, [SPEAKER_02]: Last week I told you of the problem I was experiencing with Watch OS 26 in relation to the Peloton app and of how an instance of the pages app behaves differently, depending on which device you're using, even though it's the same document.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this week I have yet another tale of [SPEAKER_02]: week or so ago I noticed that the email app was not seeking probably amongst my various eye devices and when I'm at many. [SPEAKER_02]: When I count in particular, the Gmail account for the OFNT podcast. [SPEAKER_02]: All other email accounts, including my personal Gmail account, sink just fine. [SPEAKER_02]: I attempted to manually sink the OFNT Gmail account, but couldn't get it to do so.
[SPEAKER_02]: This became an inconvenience for me because it disrupted the production work flow of this podcast. [SPEAKER_02]: We can't have that, can we? [SPEAKER_02]: What I usually do is come through my news feeds using my iPhone or iPad and then flag what stories I'm interested in and forward them to my email, my OFNT Gmail account that is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I then take advantage of the 27-inch display I have attached to my Mac mini and read the articles I've flagged, then create a blit list of items I intend to discuss during the show. [SPEAKER_02]: I accomplished this by having both the male app and the pages app displayed side-by-side, so why not just do it all on your iPad?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because my old fart eyes are bit as suited using the much larger 27-inch display than the 13-inch display of the iPad, well Apple released a .1 update for Mac OS 26.5 this past week and low and behold, my male app is properly syncing once again. [SPEAKER_02]: Though the update didn't specifically mention a fix for Apple's mail app, whatever was updated sure did to trick. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not complaining.
[SPEAKER_02]: This mail-sinking problem is just the latest problem I've had with Mac OS. [SPEAKER_02]: One of my previous Mac OS problems was actually with the Legacy Pages app, which started causing freezing problems which affected my whole system. [SPEAKER_02]: That's probably because Apple decided to replace the Legacy Pages app with the new Universal Pages app and left the Legacy app to die on the vine as my dear departed parents would probably say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Once I replaced the Legacy app with the Universal app, all those freezing issues went away. [SPEAKER_02]: As I've attempted to make the case for previously, I believe macOS isn't getting the upkeep it deserves because iOS and its derivatives are the priority for the giant food company. [SPEAKER_02]: And I further believe that eventually all Apple operating systems will be united under iOS. [SPEAKER_02]: That is if AI doesn't become the operating system first.
[SPEAKER_02]: entertainment news. [SPEAKER_02]: Besides the Walt Disney Company being embarrassed by its latest Star Wars movie at the box office by two movies produced by YouTubers, there was a bit of controversy over the final episode of HBO series Euphoria. [SPEAKER_02]: myself not being invested in the first two seasons of euphoria, which has been described as the first major series about Gen Z. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I thought it was okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So did Sidney Sweeney get naked for this finale? [SPEAKER_03]: Asking for the audience. [SPEAKER_03]: No, she did not. [SPEAKER_02]: There were some surprise death, though. [SPEAKER_02]: Without giving too much away, the bad guy gets his just rewards. [SPEAKER_02]: The girl gets the girl, and the other guy finds peace. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and the trans woman apparently settles into their recently acquired lifestyle. [SPEAKER_02]: I also managed to finish the burrows on Netflix.
[SPEAKER_02]: The story are completed as one would expect it to, and for me they showed it enough to [SPEAKER_02]: Being that my lovely wife finally managed to make it back home, I'm now starting to watch the movies and shows I previously placed on my watch later lists. [SPEAKER_02]: More on those as I finish watching them with her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hotcast News Way back in episode 319, I reported that I heart and serious slash XM were in talks about [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I haven't heard a heap about that proposed merger since. [SPEAKER_02]: I hard has been keeping busy elsewhere, though. [SPEAKER_02]: This past week I hard has scored two distribution deals, one with a major company and another with a somewhat major corporation. [SPEAKER_02]: The first deal was made with a curious electronics conglomerate LG.
[SPEAKER_02]: According to rain moves, I heart's 850 radio stations and catalogue of 150 podcasts will now appear on LG Radio Plus, which is a free-add supported listening app which comes standard with all of LG's smart televisions. [SPEAKER_02]: This is an interesting move because just last week LG was rumored to be in talks with Chinese company high-sense with the intent of selling its television manufacturing arm to a lot of company.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know many consumers use the apps and services their smart TVs come with and little of a separate streaming box, but I'm not one of them. [SPEAKER_02]: The second distribution deal I heart struck was with the largest ad supported mobile phone service in the United States. [SPEAKER_02]: Text now. [SPEAKER_03]: I hadn't realized that there were such a thing as an ad supported mobile phone service.
[SPEAKER_02]: Neither had I. I have heard of text now, but I thought it was some sort of land-aligned texting service [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you learned something new every day, don't you? [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Like the LG deal, PixNow will carry the entire iHeart catalog of radio stations and podcasts free of charge to its up to 10 million users. [SPEAKER_02]: This is the first major content deal for PixNow and Markson expansion beyond just texting and talking.
[SPEAKER_02]: The common denominator of these two announcements are ad-supported services. [SPEAKER_02]: What do we like it or not, companies view advertisements as a major revenue stream, and unfortunately they're here to stay. [SPEAKER_02]: On a personal note, I finally achieved my goal of audio Nirvana. [SPEAKER_02]: At least for the last two episodes of this show.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to jinx myself, but those last two episodes have seen my audience numbers [SPEAKER_02]: Whether this increase corresponds with my perceived audio quality or not, I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: Over the last five months, I've tried a Bivvy of microphones. [SPEAKER_02]: Some expensive, some reasonable in price.
[SPEAKER_02]: Due to a sale on Amazon, I got my hands on a Neumin BCM705 Dynamic Broadcast microphone, which is the only dynamic mic and Neumin's Storyt Catalog, I have a question for you. [SPEAKER_03]: Does the one whom must be obeyed know about this BCM705? [SPEAKER_03]: I'm afraid that I'll have to plead the fifth on that. [SPEAKER_03]: Then I'll take that to mean. [SPEAKER_03]: No, she doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, X-nai on the Mike's A. [SPEAKER_02]: Anyhow, it's not a popular choice for boardcasters or podcasters. [SPEAKER_02]: Hence the blowout sale price. [SPEAKER_02]: The first couple of episodes I used the BCM705 on, [SPEAKER_02]: And while I liked the sound, I was disappointed by the siblings that was being recorded.
[SPEAKER_02]: I tried to tame it with a DSR2-0 of a L. Starting with episode 32, the only processing I use is a noise gate, a tiny bit of compression, and some dynamic leveling. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you've noticed or even care, but I thought I'd share this with you. [SPEAKER_02]: The music is playing, which means episode 324 is quickly becoming part of podcasting history. [SPEAKER_02]: A very small part of it anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: I hope you enjoyed this episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed making it for you. [SPEAKER_02]: If you like what you heard, well you can make a donation using the link in the show notes. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean all donations will be greatly appreciated. [SPEAKER_01]: If you would like to contact the O-F-N-T podcast, you can do so by sending an email to O-F-N-T podcast at gmail.com. [SPEAKER_02]: Remember, don't listen to what they say. [SPEAKER_02]: Watch what they do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still took it out from doing your hard work, so if you appreciate my effort, get off my lawn. [SPEAKER_02]: Stay skeptical. [SPEAKER_02]: Ahhhh, I'm out. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be seeing ya. [SPEAKER_02]: And that folks is the end of the show.