I often say I left social media because I was anxiously-attached to Instagram… but what does that actually mean?! Today I’m joined by psychotherapist and author Shannon Algeo to explore why Attachment Theory explains so much about technology and smartphone addiction. We discuss their new book, The Power in Your Hands , as we talk about: What it means to be anxious, avoidant, or securely-attached How algorithms hack our attachment needs to get us addicted to platforms Why it’s so harmful to outso...
Jun 03, 2026•1 hr 9 min•Season 9Ep. 164
Today I’m doing something fun and different… Live-writing an AI policy with my friend and colleague, Dr. Kate Henry of Honing In ! After listening to the Off the Grid AI series , Kate reached out to ask if I she could hire me to help her write an AI policy. I said no, because I’m not doing 1:1 advising right now… but I proposed that we record a chat about it for the Clubhouse instead! So in this video and audio episode , you get to join me and Kate as we co-write the first draft of her AI policy...
Jun 01, 2026•23 min
LINDSAY MACK IS HERE! And while you’ve probably heard them talk about tarot on their wildly popular podcast … Today they’re taking us deep behind the scenes of their work to explore: How they built their creative tarot business The key inflection points that led to successful biz growth The realities of being a breadwinner ~ in this economy~ Why they’re finally releasing a tarot deck and book & The tarot archetypes carrying Lindsay through this busy season Tune in, then get a copy of Tarot f...
May 27, 2026•1 hr 6 min•Season 9Ep. 166
“My constant longing to be without social media is actually a longing to be in deeper connection with the world.” River Selby was born in Los Angeles and grew up in the Pacific Northwest. They worked as a wildland firefighter for seven years, and their debut memoir, Hotshot: A Life of Fire , was published in 2025 by Grove Atlantic. Today, River joins me to talk about the realities of being an author from a working class, no-safety-net background — and how that has shaped their relationship to so...
May 20, 2026•57 min•Season 9Ep. 165
If you’ve been paying attention around here… You likely know that next week I’m teaching a new intensive called COME TO CLASS ! It’s a 3-day workshop on how to teach online with confidence and care, and it’ll guide you through everything I’ve learned in 20 years of teaching — with a special focus on how learning to teach can help you improve your sales. One of the bonuses that COME TO CLASS students get is behind-the-scenes conversations with my favorite online facilitators and course creators, ...
May 08, 2026•59 min•Season 9Ep. 164
I’ve had SO MANY conversations about the problems with online course platforms. Mighty Networks vs Circle vs Kajabi vs Teachable — none of us like the existing options, and we’re waiting for someone to build something better. So today I’ve invited Sally Burns to the show, because she’s building an alternate platform for teaching and learning online — a digital neighborhood called The Portal . Tune in to hear about: Why Sally left corporate e-learning to build The Portal How to stop piecing a mil...
May 06, 2026•57 min•Season 9Ep. 163
My monthly-ish series with Nic Antoinette continues! This time we’re talking about what it means to be “consistent” when you’re running a business in this economy . We get into: How we simultaneously rage against consistency and attribute our success to it The relationship between consistency and cultivating trust with your audience Ways to build better (for you) rhythms in your business What to do when your launch plans line up with a major (horrible) event Why it’s important to get off the do-...
May 01, 2026•1 hr 23 min•Season 9Ep. 162
If you want to build a business around your know-how… You have to learn how to teach. In today’s episode, I’m talking about why learning to teach is the best sales “hack” I know — and I’m introducing you to my upcoming spring intensive, COME TO CLASS . In just 30 minutes, I walk you through: Why online courses aren’t ‘dead’ or ‘over’ How to figure out what you want to teach What you need to know about boundaries before you start teaching Ideas for nonhierarchical and nonlinear classrooms Why wri...
Apr 29, 2026•36 min•Season 9Ep. 161
Today I’m very excited to share a workshop on gentle business planning — AKA how I make ambitious plans for my biz while also healing my burnout! In this audio (and video!) workshop, I walk you through: Why we’re always planning (even when we think we’re “behind”) My 6 tenets for Gentle Business Planning List-making prompts for the season ahead in your work How to turn reflective prompts into a clear marketing & sales calendar & How I use the Nine To Kind Digital planner to organize my p...
Apr 27, 2026•14 min
This is probably my fave conversation I’ve ever had with a therapist. Today Lauren Ruth Martin, LPC-MHSP is here to talk about the anti-perfectionist planners she created for her company Nine to Kind . We discuss: Why most planners force us into a productivity mindset How gentle scaffolding can help us plan without perfectionism The therapeutic exercises Lauren included in her planners Why we prefer DBT to CBT personally How to redistribute your f*cks — instead of trying to care less If you enjo...
Apr 24, 2026•34 min•Season 9Ep. 160
We talk a lot about privacy at Off the Grid… but what does that actually mean in practice? Today I’m joined by Patricia Egger, Head of Security at my fave privacy-focused tech company Proton . Together, we have a non-technical-person-friendly conversation about: Why Proton insists on ‘privacy by default’ The difference between online privacy & security Why we love Proton Mail & want you to use it (affiliate link) What it actually means when emails/messages are encrypted Proton’s Born Pri...
Apr 22, 2026•50 min•Season 9Ep. 159
Today I’m resharing my conversation with writer, therapist, and creative Lisa Olivera in honor of her upcoming book — When the Ache Remains: Lessons on Tending to the Unfixable and Finding Beauty Anyway — which is out on April 28th. Lisa and I talk about how her work and life changed as her Instagram platform grew to over 400,000 followers. Together, we dive into: Two reasons Lisa joined Instagram + how it felt as her account grew The allure of online business + what we’re “supposed to do” when ...
Apr 17, 2026•49 min
Today I'm answering a question from Kate Henry about why summits often feel sketchy... and how I designed our upcoming Astro & Biz Planning Summit to be the opposite of that! Tune in to learn: How the summit model works ⚡️ Why affiliate strategies can make summits feel weird 🧐 The questions I ask before agreeing to participate in any event 🙋♀️ How to make sure a summit benefits the host, speakers AND audience ♻️ & Why you should RSVP for the Astro & Biz Planning Summit ASAP (if yo...
Apr 15, 2026•41 min•Season 9Ep. 158
This year I’m making big changes in my business… So I wanted to bring back my quarterly recaps to share the highlights, challenges, and financial details of Softer Sounds & Off the Grid each season! Tune in to this episode preview to hear about the highs & lows of winter in my biz. Then become a paid subscriber of the Clubhouse at offthegrid.fun/clubhouse to get all the details on how much $$ I made. When you join the Clubhouse, you'll get access to over 40 bonus episodes (and counting),...
Apr 13, 2026•15 min
Earlier this spring, I asked Interweb members: 'What are your thorniest tax questions?' Then I brought those questions to Hannah Cole of Sunlight Tax , so we could get answers from an actual tax expert! Tune in to this episode to learn: How to know if you should be an LLC or an S-Corp The best way to calculate your quarterly estimated taxes When you need to use Quickbooks (& when you don’t) Why tax protests don’t benefit you in the short term or the long run What to do if you don’t file your...
Apr 10, 2026•53 min•Season 9Ep. 157
We heard you might be stressed about the IRS… so we’re arriving with extra support before US taxes are due on April 15th! Today I’m joined by Aneisha Velazquez of Yellow Sky Business Services , who’s here to talk about finances for microbusinesses, including: What bookkeeping really is (& what it’s not) The financial systems solopreneurs need to have in place Tips for neurodivergent business owners struggling with bookkeeping Why we love Profit First (and Amelia recommends her fave bank Novo...
Apr 08, 2026•55 min•Season 9Ep. 156
Nic Antoinette is back! And we’re finally beginning the monthly series we promised you back in January. For April, it's a long-form chat with plenty of laughter and maybe a few tears along the way. So settle in, subscribe to Nic’s newsletter , and press play to hear us talk about: How we coped when Q1 didn’t go as planned Financial plans in the turmoil of 2026 How to talk about grief in public The most divisive Instagram post Amelia ever made What’s bringing us joy The upcoming 2026 Astro & ...
Apr 03, 2026•1 hr 20 min•Season 9Ep. 155
If we stop trying to get ahead online, what becomes possible? Today Ayana Zaire Cotton of Seeda School returns to the podcast to explore why she quit using ChatGPT and other AI tools. She helps us slowwww down, unpack shame, and align our desire with our capacity — a process and methodology she created and calls Erotic Engineering. Tune in to reconnect with your values, reclaim self-respect, and step off the path of certainty with us. I also highly recommend reading Ayana’s essay — and learning ...
Apr 01, 2026•1 hr 14 min•Season 9Ep. 154
Today I’m doing something I said I’d never do… inviting my partner on the podcast! In this Clubhouse-exclusive episode, my spouse JJ Lang joins me for an unexpected conversation about AI. JJ is a high-level chess player and works for US Chess. They’re here to talk about how algorithms and AI engines have been a big part of the chess world for decades — and also why JJ doesn’t use Generative AI or LLMs in their work today. I wanted to share this conversation, because: It’s fun to give you a cute ...
Mar 30, 2026•18 min
Let's get into all our feels about AI. 🌀 In this episode, I share some of the messages I've gotten from people who are using AI but feeling bad about it. And I talk through three reasons I think many of us (especially listeners of this show) feel so much tension about these technologies. Tune in for a lot of empathy and even more clarity. Then join our community conversation about AI in the Clubhouse! MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE Find all the episodes in our AI series here The Tension of Platforms ...
Mar 27, 2026•32 min•Season 9Ep. 153
When ChatGPT launched in 2022, I noticed a few spiritual practitioners talking about its ‘oracular consciousness’ and I wondered… is that a thing?? Today I’m joined by Casey Zabala of Modern Witches to talk about how AI is reshaping mystical practices in real time — and why that’s harming our intuition and agency. Tune in to hear us discuss: How Casey & I have used AI in the past The embedded inequity and colonial power dynamics of chatbots The astrology of 2026 and how it’s very AI-coded Wh...
Mar 25, 2026•1 hr 9 min•Season 9Ep. 152
Let’s be more transparent about how we are and aren’t using AI in our work! In this episode, I walk you through key considerations and a simple process for writing a thoughtful AI policy for your creative business. You’ll also hear how I crafted the Interweb AI policy, as well as why I was really inspired by Mel Mitchell-Jackson’s AI policy in that process. Press play, then click right here for more notes and resources! FREE GIFTS OF THE WEEK ❊ Rebel Archetype Assessment from Meg Kissack ❊ Stand...
Mar 20, 2026•33 min•Season 9Ep. 151
How are we feeling about AI these days, friends? Ambivalent? Over it? Hopefully curious? 🧐 Today on the show, we’re kicking off a 3-week AI series, where we’ll explore the good, bad and ugly of LLMs. Our first guest is Mel Mitchell-Jackson — who returns to the show to share their practice of AI Sobriety . We get into why AI is a labor issue, how it’s impacting our creativity, and why we’re hopeful that locally-hosted small language models might save the day. We also talk about addiction, access...
Mar 18, 2026•1 hr 20 min•Season 9Ep. 150
If you’ve had a tough 2026 so far, this episode is for you. Today, I’m sharing a nuanced and practical chat with Akua Nyame-Mensah about how we can move from a reactive to a reflective mindset and shift our trajectory in the process. Tune in to hear Akua’s advice for changing the narrative of your business — without repressing or ignoring what’s happening in the world (or your body or your bank account). I also share some examples of how I reshaped my relationship to money through storytelling a...
Mar 13, 2026•24 min•Season 9Ep. 149
This week, Cody Cook-Parrott returns to the show to share their new book, The Practice of Attention ! We go deep into creative attention, social media addiction, and why we can’t stop checking our email. Tune in as we discuss: Why creative attention is different than distraction or focus How tending to your attention helps you finish projects Experimenting with tech breaks, the Wisephone, and the Brick Which apps grab us: Pinterest vs Youtube Ways to cultivate hobbies, movement regimens & re...
Mar 11, 2026•57 min•Season 9Ep. 148
Let’s talk about how bad social media really is for our mental health and relationships. 🫠 In this honest and vulnerable conversation, Natalie Lue of Baggage Reclaim helps us dig into: Growing up without the internet Realizing social media is a toxic, codependent relationship How your subconscious “goes shopping for flaws and failures” while you scroll The problems with hate-following How to quit stalking ourselves, our friends, our exes, and total strangers online Why we shop more when we’re a...
Mar 06, 2026•36 min•Season 9Ep. 147
I met Mel Mitchell-Jackson in the best way: through a newsletter ad, a ‘wanna chat?’ email, and many texts and virtual coffees since. Today, they’re here to talk about their path from art school to working at Apple HQ to leaving that behind for creative self-employment. Tune in to hear us explore: How to cultivate creative community The realities of what it takes to “make it” in art school & beyond Chronic illness, Long COVID & find a pace you can sustain 3 common traps of over-giving in...
Mar 04, 2026•1 hr 14 min•Season 9Ep. 146
A few weeks ago, I had a conversation with a new business friend and peer that sent me into a total tailspin. The TLDR; is that they said something relatively innocuous about my podcast & membership model… And it had me questioning everything about I know about success in online business. In this Clubhouse-exclusive episode, I share more of that story and the pep talk I’ve been giving myself since. To hear the whole thing, join the Clubhouse at offthegrid.fun/clubhouse When you do, you'll ge...
Mar 02, 2026•5 min
Jenni Gritters recently hosted me for a Your Attention is Sacred book club, and I’m excited to share our conversation with you! Tune in as we discuss: Understanding the goals of the algorithms Addiction as a lens to make sense of social media Jenni’s decision to delete her Instagram account The parallels between fractured attention and financial scarcity Reckoning with combative platforms How to protect your well-being if you’re still on social media ⭐️ & RSVP FOR MY BOOK READING IN SAN FRAN...
Feb 27, 2026•35 min•Season 9Ep. 145
Today I’m joined by Cyrée Jarelle Johnson for a deep and thoughtful conversation about spiritual practice, small business, and social media. Together we weave through: How Cyrée crafted his career as a diviner, poet, herbalist + card reader Healing burnout when living with chronic illness and neurodivergence Why Instagram has no elders — and all communities are incomplete without elders Discernment vs extreme skepticism — and how to navigate the internet’s slop era How to blend online & IRL ...
Feb 25, 2026•1 hr 3 min•Season 9Ep. 144
