Blake Griffin

I remember putting on you know, Oklahoma, you never wear pants during the summer is so hot, and I remember I put it like at our school, you had to wear pants at private school. And I put on my lash previous year's pants. I was like, Oh, he's not gonna work.

It's not gonna work.

Hi everyone, my name is Blake Griffin and I have been Brian's idle for upwards of thirteen years now. So enjoy.

Welcome back, one and all.

This is Off the Beat and I am, as always your Off the Beat host Brian Bomgartner my guest today, Well, he could absolutely dunk on you because he is one of the best dunkers in NBA history. As you just heard, I have the Blake Griffin on the show with me today. He is a former member of Lob City, the Los Angeles Clippers, as well as a member of the Detroit Pistons, Brooklyn Nets, and Boston Celtics. But as a kid, he

And squeak.

I love it.

Bubble and Squeakna, bubble and squeak. I cook at every mon. Lift over from the ninety boat.

What's up?

Hey?

Look at you in a little professional booth over there.

I mean, you know, I am nothing if not professional.

That is true. That's what they say.

I mean, that is what they say. Thanks for dressing up for me today. Now, I just sent you a photo. We had this conversation this week twenty eleven. Yeah, twenty eleven, Blake and I shot something for a series of specials I was doing on NBC.

I will share it on social media. I just sent you that photo. I feel like my form is pretty good, Like I feel like I'm down there.

Can I just take a look again? Just to yeah you can warm. Do you maybe honest? Or you want me to just do the thing where I'm like, yeah, yeah, it looks good.

I want you to be honest.

Okay, the ball, you just got the ball way too close to me.

I think that's the I think that's this perspective of the cale.

Yeah yeah, probably just the angle. I don't know what I'm talking about.

I think that's just the angle.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, okay, listen, you you know what, why don't you just join a team for the playoffs and see if see if they need some help.

I mean, if you considered calling them, just throw out a line like Tom Brady, like, I mean, if anyone calls I'm here, yeah, maybe really.

You know, maybe no, I'm finish, You're done, I'm done, done, done.

All right, Well we're gonna we're gonna talk about that.

I saw very clever by the way on social media that you had to retire to finally get a trophy.

You.

I was just with Blake this last weekend in Las Vegas the Win Hotel for the eight AM Golf Championship Invitational Celebrity Celebrity Ternament featuring Justin Timberlake. Yeah, I think that's the title of it, eight am Golf. They certainly are a lot of fun. I had fun playing with you. How is it playing with me?

It was? It was, man, I'm almost at a loss for words. It was a very surreal. It was a beautiful experience, It really was.

It was.

I mean, we had so much fun. How it works, it's like for people who don't know, you play with a different group, front nine and back nine. So we played the back nine of day one and boy, let me tell you, things went off the rails. It was fun, man, so much fun.

It was a lot of fun.

And Blake and Chandler Parsons ended up winning the Chance Beach Chip. Now, did you come down hard down the stretch? Is that what happened? Because I thought you were out of it at that point. I mean, after playing with you on day one, I thought, yeah, they don't have the staying power. I mean, I don't mean that anyway except exactly how it sounded.

Yeah, yeah, I just meant it in the worst way possible. Thanks, and I appreciate that. Thanks for clarifying that. Actually either way. So we started out the front nine of day two, I mean we were we were second place after day one. Day two, well, we played solid on the on the first day Day two, the front nine was rough because we got strokes. We had, you know, the bogie with the max you could take for what hast to play

To be honest.

Yeah, I mean for those of you who need strokes, I get it. I understand that that's you were good. That that's how it worked. Here's the here's the thing. So Jimmy fallon playing with tournament host, I think we can safely say that if we don't have the title right tournament host justin Timberlake, I feel like everyone wanted them to win. Now is that just a perception thing on my part or no?

Well, so they technically did you know, they were like thirty minus thirty two hunder. But they don't. They weren't gonna they weren't going to accept a win, like they weren't going to win their own thing. Oh yeah, they won. They beat us like five strokes.

Okay, I thought, so this, now this is starting to make way more sense because I thought they had an insurmountable lead.

Yeah, we wouldn't have. I mean, we wouldn't. We got a sniffed.

Well.

Actually, then that legitimizes the whole thing to me a little bit more that you guys actually did it. You know, there was you know, Justin got hurt. There was people hitting shots for him. I mean, you know, there was a whole thing going on. Well, congratulations, How did it feel the moment you were handed that trophy, Blake, How did it feel one.

Of the biggest sporting accomplishments of my life? Yeah, fig it actually did. Because we were tied with the guys who were leading, Archie and Adrian Gonzales. We were tied with them going into eighteen. They were already finished and we popped them the last hole as well, So we were like, all we got to do is get a ball in the green and two putt Part three last week. So and we both got laying on the green, picked a better putt, two putted for the win, and felt good.

Congratulations, Thanks man.

I feel like you're it feels like you're saying that, but you don't quite need Maybe.

No, I'm happy.

I had a great time playing with you. Let me let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Who's the slowest call for that?

You know?

Uh, I know some slow ones. Yeah, do you think I'm up there? Are you about to set up something here?

Well, I wasn't gonna set it up. I was just gonna say it. I mean, whoever you think is slow, you're slower. Okay, let's be let's be clear about it. Yeah, I mean I think so. All right, Well, but you know what you're really what you punish us with slowness, you get back in fun.

So I appreciate it.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's the thing. I gotta work on it. Nobody's ever told me that. So I'll get faster next year. I'm gonna play in my co like an hour thirty.

Maybe so much. You're just gonna You're just gonna run. It was a lot of fun.

There was a lot of It's the first tournament I've ever played in that that shirts came off around the course. It was uh, well, it was it was it was fun, it was very it was Let me ask you a question. I want to get back into your beginnings, but I do want to ask you this. Are you the most powerful dunker since Shack?

I mean there's like, okay, so let's go through. There's Dominique, Wilkins, Sean Camp, shack On obviously, but Shacks was like, I mean he's so powerful, and I guess Earlyiam's career got up pretty high, but he was like true big man, want to hand, you know, just as ran as hard as possible. I think Dominique and Sean Camp both like jumped really high.

Yes, and they.

Were super powerful.

So I don't know, I'm Sean Kemp. That's a that's a good one. I mean Barkley no, yeah.

But he just didn't like like no one thinks of Barkley and thinks dunks. No, he obviously could and he had some good ones. But like those two Dominique and Sean Camp, like those two.

Are like Sean Camp, I didn't think of Sean Camp. That's a good that's a good one there. Yeah, I mean both well before you, who do you think is the most powerful man in the game right now now that you've retired?

Uh Zion, not even close. Yeah, he's like two seventy maybe to eighty maybe two ninety, have no idea, but like, and he's like six seven. He's not like super tall.

Is he only six seven?

Yeah, he's not super tall, but I mean how high he jumps and the force he creates. I took a charge from him one time three I think I was in Brooklyn to get charge from him, and he kind of kicked me in the shin, you know, as a result of it, right, And I had like a I had like a lump, like a lump, decide, like half of a golf ball on my shin, which you think, like that's just bump. Where where's the bump coming from? Right? I didn't know I had it for like a month and a half.

Geez.

Yeah, in hindsight, probably shouldn't have taken the charge. But you know, well, Bri, I like to put like to put my body on the line.

Then you know, did you get did you get the call? I did?

I got charge?

Yeah?

Your your lob City days and the power with which you played. The game obviously made you incredibly popular because that's just fun to watch. But like you said, I mean, you're putting yourself on the line both both as the aggressor and the receiver at times. And so yeah, I was, as I knew I was going to talk to you today,

Yeah, I think like physically it's him. I mean there's other guys that are pretty physical. But when you like add in like dunks and like just like you know, Zion, just like just pure athletics and athleticism, we'll just he'll beat you.

How tall are you?

Six nine?

Are you? Yeah?

Six ten with shoes if you want.

To, I feel like I'm growing or you're shrinking, because I feel like I feel like we were kind of close, right.

Yeah, maybe maybe we'll let let people decide when they when they look at that picture. It also could just be the angle, you know, it.

Could No, I think it might just it might have just been the angle. You grew up in Oklahoma. Your brother played, you played with him, and uh and and your dad was a big athlete as well.

He ran track right At Northwestern Oklahoma.

He played he played basketball and football.

Basketball and football.

Yeah, dual sport college guy.

Oh that's impressive.

Yeah, he back then they wouldn't let freshmen play on the varsity, Okay, so he really wanted to play both, and he was like, I just want to play like. I don't think he wasn't looking for like and also back then this was this would have been he went to college in sixty eight, so like professional sports, you know, weren't weren't what they are today, right, So I think he was just like, I just want to play both.

Well, you obviously didn't see him do that. I mean, did he did he play the same way you played?

Yeah?

Probably, I don't know. I didn't see him play. All I go off of now is like seeing clips, like articles like that, and like his teammates selling stories and stuff. But I knew he I know he can jump out of the gym. I know that for a fact. But that's it's kind of all I know.

Exacly, sports was a big part of your life growing up.

Did you grow so? Did you grow tall fast? Were you big? Early?

I was like always the tallest kid in my gray, you know, always the tallest one on my team. And but then like end of my eighth grade year, so like end of May, I was six one and I was I guess I just turned fourteen. Yeah, And then beginning of my freshman year, so two and a half months later, I was like six six six six six and a half. So I grew like five and a half inches and two and a half months, and like stretch marks on my shoulders, like stretch marks on my hips.

It's not gonna work. You played baseball, I heard first base something else we have in common pitch. That was the first basement. Yeah, I pitch.

What was your favorite sport?

You know, I was the best at baseball.

I probably liked basketball the best growing up. I feel like now it's you know, just I'm kind of all in on the football deal.

But I did not play. I think it was my dad.

My dad, he wasn't as interested in football. He was also a doctor, and I think that maybe subconsciously that was a part of it, Like he just sort of didn't steer me in that direction, which is crazy even back then, I mean didn't know at all what we you know, know, the potential is now, So it wasn't ever like stated, but I kind of later on I kind of wondered about that. But you were friends with Sam Bradford.

Yeah.

Yeah, we grew up like not not too far from each other, play all kinds of sports against with growing up, and then obviously we went to the University of Oklahoma together too, So it's pretty cool. I've I've you know, known him forever.

What's harder to be better at football or basketball?

I'm so biased. Well, if you're playing quarterback, you're playing like something like that, like insanely hard. I mean you've got so many responsibilities. Right, Like I always felt like football was easier for me just because I played like wide receiver, I played tight end, I played like safety defensive end. Like so it was just like in high school is obviously different, but it's just like just go

You know, I think the thing that I don't tell me what you think about this.

We didn't talk about this this weekend, but like there is and let's just call this is a terrible, like simplistic way to say it, but let's just say AAU basketball like what people sort of refer to as AAU basketball, which is run up and down the court, shoot it from every which away and try to.

Do big dugs. But there's something about that Clippers team that I refer to before.

And then I would also say, so, I don't know if you're a hater of them or not, but it was sort of almost from well if you take like the showtime Lakers, look at you guys, what you were doing at the Clippers, and then like what the Warriors were doing sort of at their peak, which is moving so well in space, and that the idea anyway that you're making a play a pass, dribbling to a spot for that like you're playing chess as opposed to checkers or aa, like you're making a play for three passes later,

Yeah, like it. I mean, it's obviously now way more of a commonplace. And if you look at like the finals, even like the early two thousands, finals, game scores would be eighty five, eighty nine, ninety to ninety two whatever it was. And now I mean teams are still scoring plus one ten, you know what I mean. I can't remember what everybody ended up with last night, but I know Minnesota scored over one hundred and fourteen maybe, I

It's so fun to watch.

Their offense is like the closest thing I'm not saying that they they are an NBA team, but how they move and their sets like that Hurley does such a good job because their sets are so you watch the ball go this way, there's an action on the backside. Somebody comes off, but it's not for him. He turns and says for somebody to rip screen down. Somebody else comes up, and then the guy who initially started moving in the first part somehow comes back around and he

Yeah, you four time high school champion, undefeated your freshman year. I mean, Oklahoma Christian, you're playing baseball, you're playing football at three positions in football at least, and you're playing basketball. When for you did you decide basketball was it?

Was?

It? This growth spurt the six inches.

Now because I still played. I played football my freshman year, okay, and then I came to the team late my dad. We played for my dad, like you said, and came to the team late, barely made the varsity team, didn't really play much, sort of worked my way up and I got into like the state championship game and it was like our toughest game of the season. I hadn't played the semi final game of the game before that, and I was kind of bummed about it. And my dad,

That's awesome.

I love that there's specific moment that you remember, and there's.

Like other moments too, Like that was like the earliest one. Where I was like, oh no, no, I think I can maybe do this. And I wasn't even thinking NBA. I was just playing like I want to be. I wanted to always be like my brother, and he was like the person I was always chasing, and he was like he was already committed to go to Oklahoma at that time, and you know, that's what I want to do. I

You guys won, as I said, four straight state championships, and I hear Oklahoma Christian just this last month won a state title again. There's a kid by the name of Luke Gray who plays there, who just passed you, Blake. I'm told breaking news here from the studio that he just passed you as the all time leader leading scorer in school history. I mean, how does that make you feel? I mean, are you proud of the kid or are you look at that don't be nice?

I mean to be honest, holding out high school scoring record for an individual, it is awesome. It's awesome. I'm super happy for him, But that's not something I would be like we should still had.

That one, you know what I mean.

It's so happy for him. That's a huge when you're in high school and you're doing.

That, of course.

Yeah, and he'll go on to you know, play more basketball and hopefully have a really long career, and it's awesome. I'm super happy for him. It's definitely not one of those things where I'm like, I wish that had happened. I still hang on to that one. That's that's that's that's great for him. He's a great player.

You get recruited by Duke Kansas North Carolina. I read you decide to go follow your brother to Oklahoma?

Now? Is that because your brother was there?

That was a huge reason I initially wasn't going to go there. My brother was recruited by Kelvin Samson, went and played for Kelvin Sampson for his freshman year and he got into some NCAA violations. They hired a young coach at the time named Jeff Caple played at Duke. He was like one of the youngest I think he's one of the youngest Division one head coaches at the time. Yeah, came from VCU and my brother came home one day and he was like, I like really love like how

That's awesome. Yeah, were you planning to be one and done?

No? No, no, not at all. I didn't even think that was like, I mean, I guess there's there's a possibility, but I had a chance to be I was, you know, at the end of the season, I sort of had a decision to make and I had to announce that I was coming back to college. People thought I was going to leave. It was like I was probably like a lottery but you know, not top five, I don't think, probably maybe like more like eight to fourteen to sixteen. And I just felt like I wasn't ready to be honest,

Yeah. Well, you had some injuries that held you back. Your MCL and your left knee.

You're hurt against Kansas and then your right knee against A and M you decide to come back. I mean, truly, your sophomore season, your second and final, as it turns out, season at the University of Oklahoma, one of the best college seasons by any player ever. I appreciate that, right, I mean no, you lead the NCAA and rebounding, lead the Big Twelve in scoring Big Twelve records on rebounds, thirty double doubles in college.

I read that, I'm like, is that right? That can't be right?

You end up being, of course the number one pick after that, Were you satisfied with what you accomplished in college?

Satisfied? Now? I mean the biggest goal obviously is they win a championship, and that think truly, it was like it was the one I made a goal list with one of our assistant coaches, and I had it on a poster board and I put it up in my apartment and checked off every single one but Big Twelve chanceampion and national champion. That those are like the ones that like being Truly the sounds corny, but being a part of something that's like bigger than you is so rewarding.

So I was gonna say, you and Chandler parties, Yeah, being part of that.

Team, yeah jesus. So you know it truly is though, like like winning a championship would have been awesome. That would have been like I would have looked back and been like, I am, there's nothing left to do in college, you know, And I eventually did leave, but it was time for me to leave, but that would have been like, you know, where I was truly satisfied.

Did you know you were going number one? Did they tell you? They told you?

So?

I think the Clippers kind of got in trouble because when the draft lottery came out, the guy who was at the draft lottery representing the Clippers, you know, the interview whoever gets in the one pick, and he was like, yeah, we're taking Blake Griffin. I remember I was sitting in the ESPN zone was doing like a doc follow thing. You know, they did this thing called the Rookie or something like that. I can't remember what it's called, but I'm sitting there with cameras and it was just kind

Right, I think the Clippers liked it that way.

Nobody that was their whole thing.

You know, we're gonna we're gonna sneak up on them when they're not looking.

Here comes Lob City having to force them into the like.

I mean, you know, I know you got hurt your first year, so you know, your first real season rookie of the year, and you guys just start going nuts. I mean Chris Paul, DeAndre Jordan, Jamal Crawford, JJ, Chauncey, Moe Williams, Grant Hill, lamar Odom, Steven Jackson, Ryan Hollins. I mean that's just a few. You truly brought the Clippers out. Well, I mean, does balm Er buy them if it weren't for you, I don't know, maybe you should have some sort of percentage.

Of that of that sale. How much fun was it?

I mean to be a part of something, and not just a part of something, but a part of transitioning an organization that had again either chosen or was sort of obscure or or mired in obscurity to such amazing heights.

I mean had to just be incredible.

Yeah, it was a blast, man, it was. It was you know, my rookie year was it was one thing. But then when we got Chris CP, when we got Chris Paul, it was like a whole day front level and it was like, you know, we were on the road, you go play like a team that wasn't doing that well that year. Attendance was down, sold out. I mean it was like every night we played it felt like it was like the you know, a national TV game, like a big one, and that was like a blast.

Are you able now to celebrate what you.

Guys accomplished and how you change the culture and how the Clippers are seen and defined or is it still more I wish.

I mean, I don't know, but I don't know.

I mean, I don't know about you know, I'm still close with a lot of those guys, and I don't know that people are like truly give us any like type of credit for bringing the bringing, you know, because they still had to make decisions, you know, they from there. They got guys for CP in the trade, they got guys from ME in the trade, and then now they

I don't know, you know, right, well, that's that's really surprising to me, honestly. I mean because even you know, I hadn't been in LA that long, but I had been there long enough to know that we talk about the Clippers like there was no there weren't two teams in LA. I don't I don't care what anyone I mean, there just there just wasn't you know, that totally changed. I mean to your point exactly what you're talking about.

They also have like the greatest shooter of all time. I mean I think you can you can now call him that.

Yeah you could, you could call him that like five years ago.

Sorry but just saying now, but now you definitely.

Now you know what, I'm just now realizing. You got to give it to Steph. You're pretty good, pretty good now. Before I was like I was on the fence.

Well, and look, you got to meet me early on. I mean, think about think about that. Think about that.

Honestly, I'm not even kidding, Like that's what I was talking about when I didn't realize what going to play in LA was all about, Like it just never crossed my mind. But like the amount of like people that I got to meet and like, you know, we're at games, you know, I was like fans of and it was really cool because it just wasn't like a thing that I really thought about until it was happening. Yeah, I'd consider myself so lucky, so lucky to have been able

I mean, you know, I.

Told you it's a massive fan of the office.

So it was like, but.

Yeah, of course, yeah, I don't know.

I don't know you. My recollection is this, you played it very cool. One two, I was in this awkward phase where.

You know, that was the second year that I had shot this and and I was meeting a bunch of people and I didn't even start at the beginning, but I was because I'm not a I'm a I mean a huge sports fan. I was a big fan of yours from watching even in Oklahoma. And someone was like, you know, you should like get some merch or something, and maybe you were the first one I don't.

I don't like. So this was like year two. I finally was like, well, yeah.

Like I would never go up to someone and ask them to sign something if I didn't like, but now I'm like working with them, and so I don't know if you remember this, I still haven't. I'm gonna I'm gonna send and post a picture of this as well. It's down in my office.

I was like, oh shit, I should I should have him signed something. I stole a ball from that gym.

That we was red and blue.

It was.

It wasn't red and blue, but it had like I think it was like property of something. But it was definitely a used high school basketball that I was like, I mean, I guess I'll just take this. And I had you sign a basketball and you signed it, and I still I still have it.

That's hilarious.

And now that you're retired, I'm hoping it's gonna be worth a lot more because now I have this signed stuff.

Probably not, It's gotta be honest, man, I should have got I should I should have got off it. Really, I don't know.

You congratulations on the retirement. I mean, that's a long career to have played thirteen years in the association, to have had such great success. Why did you stop where you just you were done with the grind of it?

Yeah, well, I I mean I loved every minute of basketball the last couple of years. You know, as you get older, dude, I've had nine surgeries in my.

Career, and that's crazy, you know.

And like really like fought hard to get back from each one and felt like I did for a long time. But then you just start slowing down. And I was at the point where, like you know, dude, you got to take You're taking my anti inflammatories. You're like, you know,

Did you did you watch basketball this year?

I watched the least amount of basketball I ever had, but I kept up with it. I would watch here and there. I would I would check out scores. I would see how you know, buddies were doing. There was some there was like clips and games I watched like if an old coach like ever was like, hey, let me pick your brain about this, Yeah, send me clips. So I'd send clips and I you know, would get on the phone. I'd give them whatever advice I could possibly give. But you know, and just checking in on guys.

Is there a team are you a fan of? Blank? Is there a team that you root for?

Uh?

Yeah, I mean the guys in Boston. I love those guys and I hope they win this year and I think they have a great shot. Denver is going to be really good again. And then other than that, I watch, you know, guys like teammates from before. Who are the teams? But there's plenty of guys who I like, love I mean love Washing, but I loved watching women Yama play this year. I'm so excited to see I'm so excited to get one to not ever have to play against

Yeah, you may be retired from basketball, but you are not retired.

Do you want to be a comedian?

Not? No, I don't want to be like a stand up comedian. I've done it from time to time. I love comedy so much. I love doing little acting things here and there. It's just like it was always fun for me to do in the off season. But I like started production company years ago with my buddy Ryan Khalil, and you know, we had an Apple TV show come out Coolhella Tomorrow, We did a remake to White McCann Jump. We got a bunch of other stuff and in the pipeline.

Yeah, you know you mentioned a couple White Man Can't Jump remake, a Hulu Hello Tomorrow at Apple TV, plus working mostly as a producer.

Did you enjoy that?

Yeah? I loved it.

You loved this?

Yeah, the creative process. It's crazy because like the first conversation I ever had about doing a White Men Can't Jump reimagine it was twenty seventeen, I met with Kenya Bears and I was like, that's one of my favorite films. I'd love to see how it looks in this world today.

It's it is insane. Well that's good one.

That's another way that we are similar and this and this time I'm not joking the business of television, the business of entertainment is fascinating to me. I love it as well. You can either get frustrated or you can embrace it and you know, ride the wave. But it got made. That's good too. You think of it this way. Your development director got paid for five years instead of one. I mean, that's a bonus for them, whoever they are. So there's all.

There's always a reason to keep push. Yeah, let's do this in the next cycle.

But you've also done performing working with fun of your Die, comedy by Blake, you were on broad City and stuff with Whitney Cummings. Let me tell you this, you really make me laugh. So I'm not the arbiter of all things funny, even though everyone else says that I am.

Wow, I said that weird career.

Yeah, it's okay, it's fine. The whole thing that you said was was weird too, So like, don't don't let the just the word career slow you down, like you know, it's just it wasn't weird. I guess it's just so immensely selfish, which obviously we've got to know each other. I know that's just you. So don't even worry about.

It, man, Right, I said career weird?

Right, honestly, didn't hear it?

It is?

It may it made in those those headphones you got are the beautiful studio microphone instead of an iPhone.

Well, you know what's unique about your setup here today is that you still have the plug in as opposed to the AirPods.

Well, hold on, can I I'm just I was told to wait in headphones. I can pull up the email. You know what, I'll blast it out. I'll blast it out. Screenshot on the Instagram. It wasn't written by pain to plug in headphones.

No, that's right. And you did well, you did very very well in.

This thing where I try to not use Bluetooth as much.

Good.

So I ordered these for my iPhone And.

Do you want to know the truth, I don't. I don't use them ever, No, it's my don't.

Man, I think it's smart. I don't use microwaves either. I'm like, I think.

Microwave, don't use the microwaves at all.

I mean I've probably used a microwave in the last like ten years. I've probably used a microwave like once a year maybe on average, like when there's no other option.

Yeah, I mean that might be a little bit of an exaggeration, but I'm actually with you. Here's here's the weird thing. Okay, let's actually if we can have some doctors right in. This is a serious thing.

Yeah.

I moved into a new house and it has a built in microwave. Okay, now the microwave. There's an island. I have an island in my house, and the microwave is built into the island, which means that the microwave is right at the same level and adjacent to.

My pelvic region.

Now this when I have used it, and I don't use mine very much either, But when I do, I hit the button and kind of step back real quick.

It doesn't feel safe. Am I wrong about that? Is this from our childhood? Is this bad? I mean, is this is this bad intel? Or it just doesn't seem like it's safe, right?

I think you're right, you know, I think you should do is get one of those X ray things you just tied around your waist, and then the kitchen. Yeah, there's that joke about you know, the x ray technician is like yeah, safe, no words, and they run off and hide behind what could be considered like a bomb, like.

A drape themselves. No, it's totally fine.

There's no way microwaves can be healthy. It's like we're zapping our food with micro waves. Obviously, not to get too scientific on you there.

Ryan, I never really thought about it, but no, that makes sense, right, And then we're.

Eating that food like obviously, but not only like what you're saying where you step back, but like smart by the way, but like then we're also just just eating that food like there's there's it can't.

Be right, right, I'm I'm with you. I'm with you.

Maybe we started a little maybe we start a separate podcast. No microwave thought.

I mean, I don't know.

Is the microwave industry a powerful industry that I don't want to anger.

I don't know, I don't know, or they I.

Feel like everybody that makes microwaves also makes like ovens, or they make like toaster ovens.

And the ovens are probably more expensive. Yeah, they probably would rather sell ovens, so in a way we would be helping them.

Yeah, maybe we get we get big Microwave to back us, put in a little money.

Big big microwave, big wave, big wave companies. I don't know.

It doesn't it doesn't seem safe, but yeah, I I don't to your point, I don't know what kind of energy it is. But shoving energy that is transmitting to another device inside my head, just intellectually, it just doesn't. It doesn't seem like it's a great thing to do, does not, does it?

I agree, we're onto something, we're on or we're on something one one or the other. Just to you listen, uh, good luck again.

You have my number now, so when you you have something interesting project wise, you give me a call. All right, it's got to be interesting though, Okay. Well, other than that, we will we will play some really slow golf and now I'll be playing with a champion.

Yeah, you're welcome and that, and you know I'm gonna work on this slow thing. No one told me, but so thanks for telling me.

You know, I feel like everyone told you. I feel like it became Oh really, yeah, I feel like it was. It was sort of commonly said I had to put Blake on a on a shot clock.

Oh that's right, you were doing a shot clock thing.

Yeah, yeah, counting down.

Well, you know what, maybe you should play a little slower next year and you'll win. Sorry, man, I was just lashing out. It felt like you came at me.

I feel like, no, it's I mean, it's it is a fair point. Uh.

Are you a fan of the play in? Yes, it generates interest, it keeps more people involved exactly, and it does it does kind of suck. Like who wasn't New Orleans was? I think they were the sixth seed and then like they maybe two games and they went and had to play the plan and luckily they still got in.

Of the season.

During that time, Yeah, yeah, Minnesota for real? Do they have a shot that winning?

Yeah?

I think yeah, I think they're for real. But I like, I would say Denver's like the favorite in my favorite in the West in Boston's Like, I don't see them beating Denver or Boston, but could happened, for sure. I mean, Rudy's playing unbelievable defense, Anthony Edwards is an absolute stud and then their pieces around are so solid that yeah, I mean for sure, could happen again. You never know, they get matched up with Denver and somebody goes down.

I just I do want to point out that you picked the two consensus favorites.

I just I mean, well, guess what, I also picked Yukon before they won. So what's that mean, Scot. There's a reason their favorite the best team also, but also Denver's other than two seed Oklahoma City. Yeah, I didn't pick Oklahoma City there the one seed.

Are you an Oklahoma City fan because you're from Oklahoma? Yeah?

But you know what's crazy is like they the first year that Oklahoma City got a team was my last year in college, so I like I didn't grow up with them, so it's kind of weird where like I basically got into the league as they were starting out, so it was like I obviously would have been if they were there prior, but I just was never like a fan fan. But yeah, I want to him do well. Still still love Ulchoma City.

Well.

NBA playoff basketball is very exciting. My TV is on every night. I wish you all the best. Good luck, Yeah, good luck with everything.

Media. Appreciate it.

Yeah, and let's get the golf game tuned up and then we'll play again.

Let's do it. Man, appreciate it. Thanks for having.

Me, Thanks buddy, Blake. Great to have you on my friend. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm gonna see you soon, I hope. And thanks for all your insight into the NBA playoffs. I will be watching mostly to see if the Celtics and Nuggets do play in the finals.

Thanks for listening. Listeners.

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