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NRL 360 - Mal makes call on Indigenous National team, Talagi makes first start for Panthers! - 09/04/25

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Catch up on all the Rugby League news from NRL 360, Wednesday the 9th of April, with hosts Braith Anasta and Dan Ginnane.

NRL 360 hosts Braith and Dan unpack Blaze Talagi's first start for the Panthers and if the Indigenous All-Stars should compete on a State or National level.

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Speaker 1

That's a great player.

Speaker 2

First game back for a long long time.

Speaker 3

They will get a field goal shot the Panthers.

Speaker 1

Now it's Clary call us a juncupper run up over halfway fifteen inside their own half.

Speaker 3

My god, quick play the ball back for Clary, shot for funny Tomatas.

Speaker 1

They're already.

Speaker 4

Nath clari is.

Speaker 1

Jeez, Nathan Clarrier is all of that.

Speaker 5

Pedator rupts.

Speaker 3

That is a magic moment in season twenty twenty four.

Speaker 6

Welcome to an old three sixty year regulate from every angle joining me again, dang, Let's bring the journey Australian James Hooper and Michael Carrianas and we've got a big game to start us off this Thursday. The last one was an absolute crack and a thank Cleary with the field goal against the Dolphins Thursday, six thirty pm live on Fox League. And the Panthers at the moment, though, Dan, there's a bit of.

Speaker 4

Pressure on them for the first time every new season. Bro, who would have thought a round what are we up to? Round six, Round seven clay, round six, round six clash and you feel like Pendri's kind of playing for this season. I mean, I don't think it's that dramatic, but I know others do. You might think that Dolphins I thought would be better than one win. Now they got to win last week. But the stakes already a bit. You've got to love this Thursday night.

Speaker 6

The stakes a big two because of the the records of past teams that have got five and one to start the year, aren't.

Speaker 7

They You're not understarting it at all.

Speaker 8

Then no side has ever gone one and five and then gone on to win the premiership. That's all the way dating back to nine l eight. So there's a lot on the for the Panthers. They get Dylan Edwards back, that's a huge inclusion, but they need to find some mojo.

Speaker 5

Mick.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's amazing to think we're sitting here even speculating that the Panthers can be one and five to start the season. I don't think it's panning stations yet for them, right because they've still got so much class in that site. They're going to have to do it the hard way. And the thing is are they going to have the

energy to get them through this season? Because we've seen at times in the last couple of years they've been able to control their endpoints to the season because they haven't been chasing wins anything like that, but they might be doing that this year at the back end of the year.

Speaker 4

Fascinated how Ivan Cleary plays their Origin period because look, I think we.

Speaker 2

All think they're going to cruise to the finals.

Speaker 4

I know they've had their woes, but come on, twelve thirteen wins, they're going to do that.

Speaker 2

But what does Ivan do during Origin.

Speaker 4

Because he has had the buffer of wins on the board and has been very, very keen to rest his players.

Speaker 2

And even with all the departures.

Speaker 4

He's going to have Cleary, he's going to have Yo, he's going to have he's going to have Tole, he's going to have Edwards all playing that Origin period and he might not have the luxury to rest them in between games.

Speaker 2

I can't wait to see.

Speaker 4

I'm loving that Penrith have this challenge because if they were just if they were four and five and oh, we've been there, done that, and I bet at some point and you know this is a player they would relish that this new challenge, this is a new challenge for them.

Speaker 6

It is a new challenge and it is going to be fascinating how they handle Origin We've spoken quite a bit about their lack of depth there now and they could cover that when Origin was on and even if they didn't cover it, they were winning going into Origin and it was next man up and they had confidence and belief in their performance no matter who stepped into that role. But it's very different now. Now have to look at this now again we've got into the lab.

This is the Penrith exiles since twenty twenty. Now look at the side that they've lost over the years. I only stains May, Crichton, Tarruvera Burton, Lewite, Fisher, Harris, co sow Len. You kick out Kate, will hop Good, May Sullivan, Sam and Defeata Pinguy Junior. The list goes on surround

O the coach, even he's left. So like given the circumstances, and this gets bigger every year because they've had to cut continue to cut players because of salary cap reasons and they're it's just like, finally it's taken its time.

Speaker 1

It's understandable, right, they've been up for so long.

Speaker 3

And as you mentioned, with all those players there there was a safety blanket. If Nathan wasn't missing with they had a guy called jer own law who could run the show and take the pressure off the inexperience half whoever was outside of him. And then I think that's been the biggest issue. And you look at the way that they've lost games this year, it's the fact that they haven't been able to chase down points. They haven't had to chase down as many points as they've had

it in the last couple of years. Even when they weren't at their flu and best, they've been able to find a way because they weren't chasing the twenty eight points a game.

Speaker 1

They're leaking at the moment.

Speaker 8

If you line that side Nick that we just saw earlier in the exiles up against this current side, I think there's an argument that the Blake Silver all walked out the door probably win that game. And it's not just the exodus at NRL level, it's the tears below. It's well, it's New South Wales Cup, Matt's ball and flag.

Rival sides have boonlock vultures just picking the absolute elite talent out of Penis's nursery because everybody knows they've got the biggest and the best, and it feels as though this year is the season that it has really caught up with them. You go back to twenty two, they won every single great in the game, yet this year they've missed the finals in a couple of those junior divisions.

Speaker 5

Great.

Speaker 4

Do you think this clearly there's a talent situation here that's caught up with them, no question. Do you think desire is as strong as it was? We're seeing a lot of mistackles.

Speaker 6

I think it's hard to maintain though, And every year again when we've done the preview, we think, how can they stay up?

Speaker 5

How can they have that desire to.

Speaker 6

Turn up every week and put the performance as they do in back to back seasons, not just back to back weeks, and still have that desire to win another premiership. And they always say, well, there's guys in our team who have won ap premiership. We want them to experience that. But how long can that last?

Speaker 4

Tell me about the time, I don't go make it. You know all about the old days, but dogs, So two thousand and two, romping away with the salary cap. Two thousand and three got closed, two thousand and four you win it. What is two thousand and five like? Because didn't the fall on a heap.

Speaker 6

Yeah, we had a lot of injuries that year, which was the real reason, because we still kept the majority of our squad. But after five then they slowly slowly lost players, you know, and that's hard. And then the dogs still they were competitive. They got to a pre lim at one point, I believe, but it's very hard.

Speaker 4

So the shock about Penrith is not that this is happening now.

Speaker 2

It has taken this long for this to happen. It's four premierships.

Speaker 4

We expected this last year, We expected this the year before the year before that, because it's always happened. Until the roosters a few years ago, no one could win two in a row.

Speaker 3

And look at all the guys that were on the screen that left. Major of them had their best seasons in their final year, so they are able to lift it to know there was an end point for him. They don't really have that this year because the nucleus of the side is contracted this year and beyond.

Speaker 6

Yeah, I don't think this week's a season defining game at all. But with Edwards back in, I think we'll get a better indication of exactly where they really are at and if it's a major concern or not.

Speaker 5

Ivn't clearly.

Speaker 6

Just addressed the media in Brisbane with a bit to say on prize recruit Blaze Telungey finally getting a start in the halves.

Speaker 5

Blaze at the six.

Speaker 1

He sort of resisted putting him there early.

Speaker 5

What makes you think he's ready for it now?

Speaker 9

Yeah, well, you know there's reasons for everything we do, so I would say it's exciting. You know, we've got a lot of hope for Blazer is a great kid, very very talented, and you know he's going to be a really good player.

Speaker 5

So but he's still very early in his journey.

Speaker 9

But it's exciting I think for our team, and I might just be a little spark that you know that's not going to that's consture.

Speaker 6

This one's been a bit of a mystery to me. The Blakes a Lungey situation. I'll come to you. Blaze signed from Paramount. Australian schoolboy, talked up as a half five and as a five eight, very talented, only played one game this year. The game he played, he come off the bench after Cleary went off within ten minutes with that head injury. They nearly won the game with him on the field. He ran for nearly fifty meters, made twenty something tackles, only missed one, come up with

a triassist, and it's his only game. Why have they resisted playing him more often than what they had.

Speaker 3

It was a surprise after that performance because you thought that he showed enough to be the potential halves partner

going forward for Nathan Cleary. But you know speaking to people in and around Penrith, and you know he had a delayed preseason because he was coming back from a shoulder injury and they just thought that maybe the footy education wasn't up to scratch for what they needed from their offense and an understanding of the way that Penrith wanted to play, so that because they play the same structures in reserve grade, they thought it was best case for him to go down and learn instead of being

thrown in the deep end.

Speaker 1

He marked his drome replacement.

Speaker 5

And be differently right, I think the best way that learns in the.

Speaker 6

Top grade for one, but also he's got X factor and he's got Cleary, Isaiao and Edwards in the spine with him and Mitch Kenny, so he can go. He doesn't have all the pressure on Him's actually got less pressure. With those guys around him, he can make his mistakes and learn from those mistakes.

Speaker 3

It's still the comparisons that are going to be there to Jerome, right, So I think for sure there will be natural comparisons right away. Comparison well compared to it. Of course, there would be breath. Whenever someone replaces a high profile play. The first thing is to go or lor he have done in that situation, right, So I think the ability to get him out of the sportlight

to allow him to learn his game a little. He's still a kid, right, so instead of throwing him deep end eighteen nineteen Hold.

Speaker 8

It's interesting though, because at the Eels we saw him have a lot of success on the wing, so he's a versatile player. I understand that Penrith brought him to wear the six jumper, but if they were looking to ease him in at an RL level on with Braith, I think he's going to learn more and he's already played enough NURL as it is with Paramatta.

Speaker 7

Good enough, but he still is good enough, and.

Speaker 8

They've had injuries in those positions, their edges.

Speaker 3

Opportunities, particularly in the last couple of weeks, not to start the season in the last couple of weeks, and particularly as you pointed upright, he looked really good against the store and he looked like something that they were lacking in terms of a free spirit with the footy. That that is a bit of a running threat. So I was surprised by it too. But that's the reason why they're just taken it.

Speaker 6

I'm not crucifying, because everyone's got their reasons and everyone four comps in row, so I'm not you know, but it was a bit bizarre. It's good to get that information as to why that.

Speaker 2

Just quickly you said it was attack. He hadn't fitted that.

Speaker 4

I was done to hear that because it wasn't the knock on the young kid at Paramatta good score tries.

Speaker 2

Tackling was a problem.

Speaker 1

So it's just structure, really interesting, you know.

Speaker 3

Different they run different shapes, different structures to what has been to come accustomed to.

Speaker 6

All Right, Tigers Trump Shane Richardson has threatened to walk away from one of the club's spiritual homes if urgent funding is not guaranteed.

Speaker 1

The challenge we've got is a stadium.

Speaker 10

We've had long, lengthy discussions with the Enerrol with Kempbelltown because unless it improves, it's a very simple thing. And as I said before, I don't do trumpetan threats. We won't play there. It's as simple as that because at the moment it's not at a standard that's required to be an NROL club, nerl a ground. And more importantly, we can't grow a membership, we can't grow a fan base, and we can't grow things without stadium being upgraded. We've

spoken to him about that. By the thirtieth of June, we need to have signed off in a heads of agreement, an agreement that they are able to upgrade it to twenty two to twenty four thousand people for seating in for the next three to five years.

Speaker 1

Also that they have to twelve.

Speaker 10

Hundred and fifteen hundred corporates improving dressing rooms, women's facilities, a whole range of different things that they need to be locked in. At the end of the day, though, the only thing we may not be able to do is play out of Campbelltown. It's as simple as that. But just over her knows we want to do it. But if we can't do it, we do have a plan B and we will enact the Plan B after thirty to June, and it won't have a direct effect on you as fans.

Speaker 6

Tiger's CEOs Stadium threat says that they won't play at Campbelltown unless there's an upgrade.

Speaker 7

I believe who's ye one hundred percent.

Speaker 8

So look, Rich as a seasoned political crocodile, he understands how the game works. We saw him do it with like Art Oval last year. So he's basically trying to get Campbelltown Council to come forward with between fifty and one hundred million dollars to upgrade those facilities. I think his Plan B that he did discuss but wouldn't tell

us exactly what it is, is Combank Stadium. So look, it is going to be a polarizing issue because that's southeastern or southwest corridor of Sydney is hugely important and it's part of the Tiger's heartland. So if they don't want to necessarily play games out there, I'm not sure how it'll be receiving.

Speaker 5

A bit of a mess this one.

Speaker 4

Forgive me for being skeptical. Right, there's what does one hundred million get you. Penrith are redoing their stadium for three hundred million and it looks like a cut and paste of the old stadium, right, just a modern, fresh coat of paint. What does one hundred million get?

Speaker 7

Does he chump change one hundred millions, not chump change.

Speaker 5

What it used to be.

Speaker 7

When's the last time you went to Campbelltown to the facility.

Speaker 4

I'll tell you not often hoops and you know why because they don't play there often. I'll tell you when they play their hoops, they play there in bad time slots against down oftown teams, the Tigers.

Speaker 5

And this is will be Foreshane Richardson's time.

Speaker 4

Every administration has treated Campbelltown like second class citizen?

Speaker 5

Is that because of the ground.

Speaker 1

Though, like it hasn't been much better?

Speaker 5

Break I'm just asking, well, I'm not suggesting.

Speaker 3

And I know what you're saying, but you're not when the comparisons like Eard, who's arguably worse than the Canterdown Stadium.

Speaker 8

Yeah, I disagree with second class citizens, just based on that they play as many games there as they do a likehut. If there's a knock on the Tigers previous administration that's been how nomadic they've been in terms of home grounds. He can't have three or four, which is what they've had previously. I know what Richard's trying to do. He told us last year he wanted players who are in for the crocodile role and I'm.

Speaker 7

Going to fight.

Speaker 8

Well, that's what he's doing. He's going to war with the politicians and he wants them to put their hand in their pocket.

Speaker 2

And he played his hand. He showed his cards.

Speaker 4

I think it was on the James Game podcast last year, and he followed through on that when he said we're going to take games to the big stadiums.

Speaker 2

Now, I fully understand his principle. There there's money there, venues.

Speaker 4

New South Wales are paying the Tigers as they pay South as they pay Canterbury. So they got five games out of their twelve at stadiums where they're being paid, three at Combank, one at Ali Yards and then Magic Round.

Speaker 2

That only leaves seven games.

Speaker 4

Campbelltown gets a Friday six pm game, a Sunday six fifteen. Sunday six fifteen, there's a Friday eight pm game. That's okay, that's one decent time slot. All the like hard games a Sunday afternoon. Now, I love like card. I'm not going to start I've already had one fight this week. I'm not starting one with you because I love light hard too.

Speaker 5

When you find.

Speaker 2

But don't, don't you start me break.

Speaker 5

You on start.

Speaker 2

But Campbelltown is where the Warriors get sent.

Speaker 4

It's where the out of town teams often gets sent the Campell Campbelltown's had thirteen Sunday afternoon games in fifteen years. Okay, where like art gets true to differently? Let's be honest. I love like card again. I'll say it for the fourth time because I'm about to whack it. Break is the past, and Campbelltown seems to be a future that the Tigers haven't realized for the twin twenty five years that that club has been emerged.

Speaker 8

Okay, so Rich has realized it because he's added in their strategic plan ever since he got the food under the desk and he decided that he wanted to go into the game.

Speaker 4

If he's legit, I hope this plan comes out because nine games nine games a year there, there's.

Speaker 6

A few Let's get the crystal ball out and they do upgrade Campbelltown.

Speaker 5

Do they play more games there? Well, he said, do you think that's realistically?

Speaker 4

I think that's what he I think he wants to play all these games at the big stadium.

Speaker 3

It's for all with danger. Look at what's happening with Penrith switching all there. I know they don't have a choice at the moment, but moving those suburban fans to those venues doesn't necessarily work.

Speaker 5

Well. How are the Tigers fans for nothing.

Speaker 1

To like it? They're not going to like it an FD.

Speaker 6

Going to Campbelltown if that's where they played the majority of their games, or is it just going to be Yeah, I'm saying it's.

Speaker 7

Going to divide people.

Speaker 8

It's going to split people for sure, no question. But look, Tiger's fans are accustomed to going to go through tough times in recent seasons, so they're coming off three spoons.

Speaker 4

Campbell Handles, it's a home ground, it's the big stadiums.

Speaker 2

I think the issue game.

Speaker 5

All right, Now, let's get to the foot.

Speaker 6

Lewie was out last week due to suspension, but a few murmurs that he's not fit for the game against the Knights.

Speaker 5

Will he play Woney? Do we know anything about this?

Speaker 8

They trained today the Tigers and he did have that shoulder heavily strapped. But I think he's Okay, I do think that he will line up. Obviously, that's big Caliday for the suspension, but I think he's back.

Speaker 5

Bro. I think that's big for them.

Speaker 6

You know, if you look at the game, it's already a tricky one to pick Leuille plays I kind of lead towards the Tigers winning this one.

Speaker 5

So it's a beiginn if he does play, hopefully for them.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 3

They were concerns initially regarding that shoulder, but the Skins came back last week as positive as they could be. So be interesting to see how long he can get through. It's the one that he dislocated. Don't forget playing for Penrith the company years ago.

Speaker 6

How important is this game for the Tigers that they've had the good run and then you know, dropped off a little bit. How important is this one against the Knights who are really struggling at the moment, although it is away from home.

Speaker 4

Well, the Knights have won something like eleven straight Sunday Afternoon's up there, right, is that right? It's a crazy stat somewhere in that vein. But you've seen their squad for this week. It is bare bands. They couldn't even name a full twenty two. You've got Coggan missing, so I FEEDI missing. There's another key playing, Adam Elliott. If I don't want to say if the Tigers are feed think and they have to win, but they now go they should compete and this should be at worst a

very close Ye're saying they should win. No, I'm not saying they should win.

Speaker 2

They don't know. They haven't got to the winning habit break.

Speaker 5

That's my point.

Speaker 8

I thought as much as they were beaten by Brisbane, and you can never say a side that gets forty plus put on them, you can never say there's too many positives in that opening half. If they kick goals, agree potentially it could have been eight and six at one point. Then the Bronco score just before half time, Adam Reynolds kicks a two point field goal forty twenty. No Luayle or Galvin showed really positive signs. I love what their forward pack is building with the combination of

Terrell May and Fan Ballet. Fath has punched above his weight. I don't think it's all doom and glow.

Speaker 5

They win this week. I've got to winning.

Speaker 1

We've spoken about the importance of Penrith.

Speaker 3

I think it's more important for the Tigers this week to get the win because you know there's been a feel good vibe around the joint at the moment. But you know they lost a Newcastle earlier this season, they lost to the Warriors two games they thought they should have won.

Speaker 1

They can't drop this one.

Speaker 6

Okay, you have it meet Now, what's going on with Jamal Fog is that the Raiders at the moment, he's got that clause, but heavy rumors. You wrote the story today that he's going to sign it to you deal with men.

Speaker 3

Well, not that he's going to sign it to put a two year offer to him. Next week, most likely he will end up at Manly. What's going to happen here?

Speaker 5

So he's going to sign there are most likely he's going to land there.

Speaker 1

Well, you said he's going.

Speaker 7

Yourself.

Speaker 1

I've got to talk to him next week because at them you're not allowed to talk.

Speaker 2

We follow the rules.

Speaker 3

I remember until this weekend to take up their option worth around seven hundred thousand dollars for twelve months for Jamal. They want to keep him for twelve months, but they understand that if he gets a multi year deal elsewhere. They're not going to hold him to that, so they're not going to take up that option, which allowed Jamal to go test the market, and the market will be next week that mainly come in with a two year deal worth about a million dollars.

Speaker 6

So they deal is done thanks Mi Fagui and Brooks together they're going to be the combination. It looks like for next year. Who plays six, who plays seven? It's just seven books at six. How do we see this combinations?

Speaker 3

Well, I think we've seen in the past that Luke Brooks needs someone that can organize the side. He's at his best and he's been at his best at Manly with a bit of free spirit to run his strength is his running game and let someone else make all the crucial decisions. I think it's a combination that could work with Tom I think it's one that could work.

Speaker 1

It's not as good as the DC.

Speaker 3

It's Luke Brooks combination right, but at this stage of the year, I don't mind it.

Speaker 8

Even the cards that they've been dealt. I think it's probably one of the better results that they can secure exactly.

Speaker 4

I mean, okay, people are going to it's a downgrade, but who's better out there that's available right now for next year.

Speaker 8

They tossed up possibly Adam Reynolds. They tossed up possibly Hearing for and that was just so.

Speaker 11

That's not the Reynolds situation, I think mainly, I think Manly had his name on a Li Brave, But I don't think Adam's got a desire to come back there, in to sitey.

Speaker 8

I think he's very settled up there with the BRONC goes. If he can, his preference will be to remain at Red Hill.

Speaker 3

I would have ruled out Kieran for and on a second tier contract if that's the way it comes to.

Speaker 7

What's the second tier.

Speaker 3

Well just coming and bottom thirty or it depending on where his future maybe if he wants to finish off at Manly, it may be a train and trial sort of a part time contract.

Speaker 8

That's interesting because he got asked about it on Fox only a couple of weeks ago when the story first broke, and he was basically flat batting it, saying that happy where I am?

Speaker 7

Who you know something there?

Speaker 1

I just said it could happen, okay.

Speaker 6

Buzz was deeply concerned that Adam Reynolds may be squeezed out of Red Hill. He wrote that in an article on the weekend. I think someday it was. But you think they may be able to keep him.

Speaker 7

More, well, I think they're mad if they don't.

Speaker 8

I think obviously they're going to have to make some big decisions around how they balance it, and they'll have to let players go in terms of the roster. But for what he does, Like we saw on the weekend against the West Tigers, I think he played forty four minutes, but he was so influential on that contest.

Speaker 7

Even if you only get him Braith.

Speaker 8

So let's say he can only play twelve fifteen games next season. I'd rather have him in that seven eight and especially come the big end of season games than not have him just available without him.

Speaker 6

He looks so happy and settled up there I heard. You know, he loves where he lives. His family love it.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 5

I think he'd be willing.

Speaker 6

To probably take a bit of a haircut.

Speaker 5

To stay there. I mean, not his manager, of course, but you know, I don't know.

Speaker 6

I can't see him leaving there. I think they they'll find a way. I think they'll find a way. Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 8

If you watch that two point field goal and then the chip and chase trial. We haven't seen that sort of thing from him for.

Speaker 7

A number of years. That were shades of Alfie Langers.

Speaker 8

So on with you. I think he's very settled. I think his family's happy. I think what we saw over the weekend was just a little bit of pressure from the Reynolds camp to let everybody know that he does want to play on. Don't forget the headache and the balancing act for the Broncos. They've got Azraelman to come back into this side. But they did tell Ben Hunt when they signed, well it's not but in terms of salary cap, you've got to be able to fit everybody in.

Speaker 7

If he wants another to.

Speaker 6

A year, maybe you know a little less than what you know you would probably offer him otherwise and then put him on the as a coach when he retires and give him a life after footy up there in Brisbane if he loves it so much.

Speaker 2

On the how old is Renald's thirty five?

Speaker 5

I don't know.

Speaker 4

A one year deal is not unreasonable, but players at that age like to get too.

Speaker 2

D C is an example. He wants two years.

Speaker 4

Reynolds started to miss a few games, only played thirteen last year. We're not going to miss any this year, it looks like at this point, but I don't think one is unreasonable.

Speaker 6

It's going to be up to him if he's like DC, he wants more than one and it changes the whole landscape of this and.

Speaker 8

Are going to be happy to just go with a twelve month option at this point in time.

Speaker 6

All right now, respected former players Dean Winners and Bow Champion have outlined their desire for an Australian Indigenous team to compete on the international stage.

Speaker 5

Take a lotok.

Speaker 12

We don't have a platform for our indigenous players to play at a higher representative level. And we saw last year at the World Cup in the men's Cody Walker, Latrell Mitchell josh Ada Cup. We need to find a platform for our players to perform at the highest level.

I keep pushing the barrow of the Pacific Cup. I think that we should have a team in the Pacific Cup men's and women's that play and I guarantee you we will bring a lot of flavor, will bring a lot of challenges out to those top teams in it.

Speaker 13

It will make it a better proc because as we see with that Pacific Cup, you've probably got two maybe three teams. You throw an indigenous team into the mix there, I guarantee you it's going to create a full team that's going to be really competitive, if not win that. If they're performing at that level, then they maybe look and say, look, look how good they played the Pacific Cup. We'll keep an item for original or look to push them in that representative space.

Speaker 6

Kangaroos coach Meninga has responded on calls for this indigenous team. For me, there is no reason why we can't celebrate our history and our heritage, but at some stage we have got to make a decision.

Speaker 5

Are we Australians first?

Speaker 6

That doesn't disrespect First Nations people because they play a really important part in our history but also a really important.

Speaker 5

Part in our game.

Speaker 6

You know, I have got you know, I've got an Australian South Sea Islander background, but all my cousins are First Nations people's. But I take the view that we are Australians first.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 6

So obviously last night, these two indigenous ex players have come out and said that there could be a possibility of having an Aboriginal team thoughts.

Speaker 1

I don't like it. I don't like it.

Speaker 3

I think Mal sums it up beautifully, particularly this last line. But I take the view that we're Australians first, and that's the way I look at it. I'd hate to see a time when we have an Indigenous side playing against an Australian side, because they should all be under that one banner. The opportunity to showcase themselves obviously happens week to week in the NRL, and of course the All Stars Game, which is such a big concept which has just grown in the game.

Speaker 1

So yeah, I don't like it at all.

Speaker 4

Can't work, broth can't work because what happens the initial idea actually I find intriguing. Right, So we've got this year the opportunity to do it because Australia is off to the UK, which means they're not part of the Pacific Championship, and you've gotta have some O Tongue and New Zealand indigenous.

Speaker 2

Interesting.

Speaker 4

I think that's you'd get some really good quality footy out of that. What does Latrell Mitchell do now, He's either going to be he's in a nine win situation if he picks the Indigenous side. He says, I'm going to play for us, and now he's on Australia and he's going to get hammered.

Speaker 2

And if he.

Speaker 4

Picks Australia, because that should come first. Now doing something against these people, it can't possibly And what happens if it does work and we go to a World Cup? What does Australia play Indigenous is When Australia played Australia Rayan cricket, it was a disaster.

Speaker 2

You can't have it.

Speaker 5

What do you think?

Speaker 8

Oh, look, I can understand why Indigenous players might want to discuss it and air it on a platform and have people have a look at it. But I think Mail and it was a great work by Paul Crawley to get straight to Mail and ask him for his take on it. Mail's the best qualified to speak about

it as the current Australian coach. And to me, you look at all the champion Indigenous players that have worn the green and gold Arthur boots and was the first Indigenous Australian captain in any sport all the way back in nineteen seventy. That's more than fifty years ago. There's so much history and there's so much heritage already in that jump of the locks of Gordon Tallis, Steve Ranoff, Greg England, Jonathan Thurston, They've all proudly worn that jumper.

I know firsthand how hard Melmenting works on celebrating not just indigenous cultures but all cultures, because everybody comes from different background inside the Green and Gold dressing room, and I know how hard Mal works in that space to make everybody feel welcome, united and together. So I think it's a tricky one.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I understand.

Speaker 6

I understand, and I understand why those players would want to do that and represent their culture and the heritage, just like the Samoans and Vgians and everyone. Right at the moment, the concern for me would be it just doesn't feel right Australia playing verse an Aboriginal team. It's sort of you know, with the Combati sport and in any code anywhere around the world, when you get to a high level, it's us first then, you know, And

I don't think it should be us first. Then I think it's it can cause divide and division, and I don't think it's it's really yeah, I don't think it like I don't the potential of that you.

Speaker 4

Can't have the potential of one of those parties. The Australian team was the Indigenous team being booed on Australian soil, and that that helps nobody in saying that can't work. But it's interesting thought idea because they'd put the cloners through some will when they made Scotland employees France ployees.

Speaker 2

I mean you imagine what the Indigenous sort to do to some of those.

Speaker 5

They'd be a great team. It'd be a great team.

Speaker 6

But I think Roamin Ingle was handled well and like who said, he's probably the best to speak to it out of any of us.

Speaker 5

So yeah, there you have it.

Speaker 6

Okay, Robot is backing Savala at half back. If that doesn't work, though, what is next?

Speaker 8

Well, I think what's next is they've got a young kid, he's still on the nine one years of age, Toby Rodwell, and they've signed him through until the end of twenty twenty eight. Recently, let's give Savala first crack. I don't think they can go back to Chad Town's end again. I think they bought Chad as a backup. He was forced into a situation unexpectedly in the opening rounds, so I.

Speaker 6

Think if this doesn't work, which everyone's hoping he does, you don't think they'll go back to Town's end it all.

Speaker 8

I'd be surprised if they did break. I feel as though he got the opening five games of the season mixed results. I know there was a lot of criticism around the fact that Chad wasn't running the football as much as what the russ probably expected. So I'd be surprised if they went back there with hoops.

Speaker 3

I think unless he's brain in it in reserve grade, or there's a catastrophe in the halves there, I think it's very difficult to go back to Chad after the first five weeks of the season.

Speaker 6

While we're here, you'd like to launch an impassionate defensive Brent Reid's.

Speaker 3

Argument definitely not in passion, but I get where he was coming from. If so, there's been mixed reports right suggestions that Sam Walker could be back as early as round twelve. He's background twelve. I'm not icing him on the season for the season. If it's round twenty one, twenty two and they're not in contention, then it's different.

Speaker 1

So I can see.

Speaker 6

But the problem here, it's not to be around twenty one or twenty two. You wouldn't think so it's not you know it's round twelve. Is it the nine month mark? So maybe it might be round fourteen fifteen.

Speaker 1

Then he's playing exactly, So why.

Speaker 5

Are we even discussing it? Then?

Speaker 6

Why is really talking about this? If really the likelihood is he's going to be back between round twelve and fifteen.

Speaker 8

That's what I felt for mister Peabody on Monday night the spectacles were fogging up and Blake's hammering.

Speaker 5

He gave a good account reverse he's getting.

Speaker 8

A reverse six wide without.

Speaker 5

Very quick.

Speaker 2

Someone was in his ear.

Speaker 4

They don't want Sam coming back in that's well, that's going to be the story.

Speaker 5

That's going to be.

Speaker 8

Thing is that might be the yarn den In all likelihood, you're probably right, but I just don't see how that's going to happen. The Roosters have got their own medical staff and high performance people. If Sam Walker is ready to go by a round fifteen, well he'll be returning because he's been paid nine hundred and fifty grands.

Speaker 6

Ever looked is you know, if you're the coach Robbo and his high pressure job, you can be sacked at any stage. Oh, let's just put the me dollar player. We'll finish last and I could get the chot. But okay, you know like it's not reality, it's not reality. It's crazy anyway, Jonas, can you player matchups?

Speaker 5

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Speaker 8

One of the games of the round is the Storm and the Warriors, And I'm saying the new young gun in the front row Stefano up against the old Susan Ball James Fisher Harris.

Speaker 3

Yeah, mine is a battle of the half Latrell Mitchell at number six for South Sinney up against Tom Tom did and for North.

Speaker 5

That's a good one. Need to have been outstanding. Thank you very much and see you next time.

Speaker 6

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Speaker 14

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Speaker 15

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Speaker 5

Cannot wait.

Speaker 15

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Speaker 14

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Speaker 5

It's been great, you know.

Speaker 15

You know that break I had was a lot of plenty of a family time and a bit of growth on myself, you know, so that was good.

Speaker 1

But then I was able to get back.

Speaker 15

Into camp and you know, get the intensity and you know that fighter's identity or whatever you want to call it. Had to split that switch and I did a great job, mate, like I was firing through camp.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 14

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Speaker 15

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Speaker 5

I'll see you when i'm back.

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