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Sadism in the Bastille

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TRIGGER WARNING: this episode contains references to sexual content.

The Marquis de Sade, the namesake of "sadism," is famous for his writings cataloguing the full extent of brutal and abusive sexual acts. Today, he's perhaps more famous as a concept than an actual living, breathing person, a man who wrote his most famous manuscript in prison, aided by a shockingly devoted wife.

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Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion advised a warning before we begin. This week's episode contains mentions of graphic sex and sexual violence. If that's not something you want to listen to, or if you are a younger listener, I would encourage you to skip this episode maybe and

come back next week. Revolution was brewing in Paris. There were mobs in the city streets, and on July one, seventeen eighty nine, if anyone in those mobs happened to look up at the Bastille, they would have seen a man, a prisoner, standing in the window of his cell on the sixth floor, shouting down at them. Save the prisoners. The man yelled, their throats are being slack, they're being murdered. You must help. They were dramatic words, words that the

prisoner was hoping would incite action. In actuality, the prison was nearly empty. The man shouting down from his window was the only prisoner remaining in his tower.

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He was short and.

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Wide, raggedly dressed, as you might expect. If the mob on the street had squinted, they might have seen that the prisoner was holding an object to his mouth like a modern day megaphone, a metallic funnel. Even if they had seen the object, the people on the street probably would not have guessed that the funnel was a piece of the prisoner's urinal though of course, use of the urinal funnel to magnify his voice was entirely functional in

this case. The fact that this man one happened to be holding an object associated with bodily waste up to his mouth is uniquely appropriate given who that prisoner was.

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His name was.

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Dunisian Alphonse Francois, but he is better known as the Marquis de Sade. He is among the most infamous writers known to literary and cultural history, and among the most controversial for good reason for his writing depicting gruesome sexual tortures and violence that went as far as murder. His grisly sexual imagination is the origin of the word sadism. Though never quite as violent as his characters, his many

stints in prison weren't just for his ideas either. The man poisoned and beat sex workers, and was credibly acute used of kidnapping teenage girls. The Marquis de Sade has been widely censored throughout history, and is also published as a Penguin classic. He has been reconsidered, redeemed and villainized in the changing political winds of history by everyone from Apolloniere to Simone de Beauvoir. He was a writer, above all, known for his libertine works of sexual violence, less known

for his political and esthetic writings. And as the Marquis de Sade stood in the window of the Bastille the July that the French Revolution would reach its climax, shouting into the metallic funnel, he was also one more thing, perhaps surprisingly, a husband to a remarkably, even strangely devoted wife, a pious woman married to a man who had had endless affairs, mostly with sex workers, but also with her

own sister. And yet she had stood by him throughout his many violent indiscretions, his many imprisonments, his burnings in effigy. As the Marquis de Sade stood there in the sixth floor of his prison tower, screaming, he may have been able to guess that soon he would be removed by the armed guards. In fact, he was removed at one

the next morning. He may not have been able to guess that he wouldn't be allowed to take with him his library of six hundred books ranging from Homer to Robinson Crusoe to Erotica, that his wife had sent him by request.

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He may have.

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Had some sense that thirteen days later the Vestille would be stormed and the French Revolution would begin in o earnest, But surely Sod could not have known that he was on the immediate precipice of losing the two things in the world that surely he believed he would never be without, first the pages upon pages of his manuscripts, the scrawling writing that he had kept secret and hidden during his imprisonment, and second, at last, his once devoted wife. I'm Dana Schwartz,

and this is noble blood. All right, listeners, Right off the bat, this is going to be an edgy one. Before diving into the story of Sod, let's start by acknowledging that sadism from the mind of the Marquis is not the now sex positive and consensual s that you

might know from the contemporary acronym BDSM. Some of it starts there, but Sod's imagination goes far beyond even the most transgressive sex positivity into disturbing depictions of extreme tortures so obscene and violent that I can't won't even suggest them on this podcast. Fifty Shades of Gray is like a nursery rhyme by comparison. Sod himself told his lawyers that his books were quote too immoral to send to a man as pious and as decent as you.

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I needed money.

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My publisher asked me for something quite spicy, and I made him a book capable of corrupting the devil listeners. I can't give details of such works to someone as pious and decent as you, nor would I want to. What I can give is the story of the man behind those works. With that said, let's get into it. The Marquis de Sade was born on June two, seventeen forty, in the house of his father's mistress.

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Don't get me.

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Wrong, the Marquis was a legitimate child of his married parents, but Sad's father, Jean Baptiste, only married his wife in the first place to get closer to another woman, the Princess of Conde. Jean Baptiste loved the princess, but settled for marrying her lady in waiting Marie. Like his eventual son Jean Baptiste, had also been arrested for his sexual exploits with men, and Marie, unsurprisingly was rather absent from

the household and from her son's childhood. In a sad little incident from the Marquis de Sad's early life, neither parent bothered to show up to his baptism, so a pair of servants baptized him with the wrong name. He was called Denisian Alphonse Francois, not Denisian al dunt Louise, as his absentee parents had originally intended. At age five, the young Sad moved in with his father's brother, who scandalously lived with a mother and daughter with whom he

was both sleeping with. Sad had access to his uncle's impressive library, which included Molieri, Hobbes, and books with titles like The Bordello or The Everyman Debauched and The Good and Bad Uses of Flagellation. In other words, this was a child who grew up surrounded by promiscuous sex, for whom the taboo was commonplace. This was the era after the licentious regency period in France, when so called libertinism was common The word libertine comes from the Latin root liber,

meaning free. A libertine was a person living without moral or religious restraint, particularly in the bedroom. When sod turned ten, his father sent him to a Jesuit school that disciplined boys by flogging them in front of their classmates. Accusations of sodomy also ran rampant at the school, which was a criminal act at the time. Usually, when covering a subject on noble blood, it's unnecessary to the story to either report or speculate on the specifics of the individual's

sexual proclivities. But in the Marquis de Sad's life, his own personal sexual activity is so inextricably linked to his work and also to his life that I find it actually does hold some relevance here. So whether or not s'd first encountered sodomi at his Jesuit school, we know that in both his personal life and in his writings, for him, it was the only type of physical sex that ever satisfied him, whether he was in prison or in his marital bed, whether he was with men or

with women. Young S'ad went on to fight in the Seven Years' War, where his sexual appetites were so well known that his honorable discharge papers called him deranged. By the time S'd was twenty two, his father was desperate to.

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Get him married off.

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Sad was therefore betrothed to a respectable young woman, renee Pelege Montcre. But six weeks before the wedding, Sada in Provence was writing letters to a different woman he wanted her instead, of course, while saying how much he loved her, he was also calling her an ungrateful wretch and blackmailing her regarding the gonorrhea that he also had likely given her. So, surprise, surprise,

his relationship with that woman didn't work out. Nonetheless, Sod refused to come back to Paris to marry the woman that his father chose for him, and the wedding date was approaching. Sod's father knew what a mess he was creating for the young Rene Pelage Montrell and her mother. I pity them, he wrote, for making such a bad purchase, capable of making all kinds of trouble. Finally, one day before the wedding, Sod arrived back in Paris carrying the

then traditional wedding delicacy of artichokes. He married Peleget, who stood four foot ten beside Sod's five foot two. This was a time when five' four would be considered. Average but even, so sd was. Short make of that what you, will and, shockingly The marquis and his new marquise actually seemed to really like each other like a. Lot sod

called her his beloved soul and dearest. Friend Renee pelget came to at least, accept maybe even Enjoy sod's particular predilections in the, bedroom which, were AS i alluded to, before not the type that would risk. Pregnancy Biographer francine De Plusie gray said That Renee pelaget's utter adoration for her husband quote has a legendary mythical. Streak it is akin to the devotion displayed by wives Of ogres In european fairy. Tale of, course all of that love and

devotion wasn't enough to restrain The marquis De. Sade she had married The marquis De, sade after, all and he was. Untamable three weeks after the, Wedding Renee pelget was. Pregnant five months after the, wedding her husband was in jail for the first. Time it was a relatively tame first. Charge he had forcibly demanded that a sex worker whip, him and he threatened to whip her in, turn all of which was actually kind of common practice at the

time for a married male. Aristocrat but under threat of, violence he had also forced this woman to speak blasphemies Against. God it was Actually s'd's wife and mother in law who worked to get him out of. Prison he was only there for three, weeks but even still he considered his treatment massively. Unfair was a noble really going to get in such trouble for how he treated such lowly. Women In august seventeen sixty, Seven sod's first son was.

Born eight months after, That sod was in jail, again this time for seven months for the violent coerced whipping of a woman Named Rose. Keller by seventeen seventy, Two sod and his wife had two sons and a, daughter and he was convicted for a third. Time he had given sex workers a candy that contained a dangerously high dose of an aphrodisiac Called spanish, fly which left at

least one girl. Hospitalized Spanish fly is not a. Euphemism it is literally a bug a beatle actually rumored at the time to increase arousal and even used as a treatment for various, illnesses including STIs at the, time but it was also incredibly, toxic sometimes even deadly in large. Doses this, Time sod was sentenced to be burned and, beheaded in a practice.

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Common for nobles at the.

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Time he was burned only in, effigy and the sentence was considered. Complete in the, Meantime sod was off In italy with a very particular. Mistress his devoted wife's, Sister Anne, prosper was nine years younger than her, sister and she was infatuated with The marquis De. Sad, Still sod's wife stuck by. Him in seventeen seventy, Four sod had serious

kidnapping allegations levied against. Him Renee pelge covered for, him knowing all along that he had in fact taken five young teenage girls and one young boy servants into the dungeon of his family chateau to have them act out depraved scenes and. Orgies, finally in seventeen seventy, seven and with the help of his once loving mother in, Law sod was taken into. Custody it would be the thirteen

year long imprisonment that eventually led him to The. Bastille for a guy best known for his elaborate imaginations about torture and, RESTRAINT sd did not take well to. Imprisonment he was not initially held at The bastillo. Fortress he was first at a fortress Called vincenne cell, eleven with windows just barely high enough for him to see a sliver of sky above the fortress. Walls the marquis wrote to his wife constantly requesting incredibly specific items, herivens hemorrhoid,

creams face, powder, toothpicks. Cologne she worked to send, them writing letters that professed ardent and passionate. Love sometimes he returned her. Affections he wrote about his intense desire for, her using euphemisms about his hem bow and. Arrow he asked her to send him cylindrical objects shaped in, very very particular. Dimensions but sometimes he turned on. Her he blamed her, mother correctly as it turned, out for his, imprisonment calling her a venomous, beast an infernal, monster and

other epithets THAT i cannot speak on this. Podcast he sent his mother in law a letter written in his own. Blood in the height of, irony he Accused Rene pelaget's wife of wearing clothes that were too. Immodest as a, result she went to live at a. Convent it Was leap day of seventeen ninety four When sod was transferred to The. Bastille, ironically his tower was called The tower Of.

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Liberty he was.

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In an octagonal cell that he plastered with flowers and portraits of his, family almost like a dorm. Room by the end of his stay in The tower Of, liberty he was on the sixth, floor surrounded by six hundred books in a. Bookcase his collection Included, Homer, Virgil, Shakespeare, erotica and the Book Dangerous, liaisons written right around the time Of sod's. Imprisonment he also had dozens of pens

and blank. Notebooks his wife had sent him all of it because upon being, Imprisoned sod turned at, last in earnest to the thing that he would become most famous for. Writing sod turned his wife into his research. Assistant he would ask her to find hotel, names, streets, managers and surrounding settings in locations as distant As lisbon And. Madrid yet his letters also derided the writing abilities of the very woman who was sending him the books and research

and strawberries and rosewater he requested to The. Bastille in one, letter he, wrote, quote you don't seem to have bathed, today for it is impossible to read anything drier than your.

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Letter in, another.

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He, Wrote you've sent me three pages of idiotic, ramblings but it's in your manner to say stupidities to have your reason go off. Track Renee peleget is generally considered. Uneducated her writing is, misspelled and she certainly didn't share her husband's famous linguistic. Dexterity but she engaged him in complex questions of law and, ethics and she read and critiqued his. Manuscripts she also probably accidentally misled him in

answer to some of his research. Questions the descriptions of foreign nations in The marquis De sade's books are often, wrong and that's the evidence that The marquis De sade's prison writings were actually reliant on his long suffering. Wife of, course sod was still in prison when he began writing his first book in seventeen eighty.

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Five he had to be.

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Secretive he wrote in frenzied three hours from seven to ten. Pm the night darkening outside his. Window as his hand trembled with, excitement he wrote on five inch pieces of paper in tiny. Handwriting there are many tales about books being written in ridiculously short periods of. Time, Supposedly Robert Louis stevenson Wrote Jacqueline hyde in three, Days Arthur Conan doyle wrote The First Sherlock Home story in three, weeks and fasad it took thirty seven days to produce forty

nine feet of. Writing his book was about two hundred and fifty thousand, words about one thousand, pages more than double the size that would make a modern agent or editor blanche if they.

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Got it in the.

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Mail that book Was the one hundred and Twenty days Of, sodom a catalog of every possible sexually violent. ACT i cannot name them. Here you are welcome to look them up. Yourself but if you are imagining, titillation don't be surprised to find yourself. Repelled during all this, time the seeds of The French revolution were about to. Bloom revolutionaries were preparing their muskets and sharpening their. Swords The Liberty tower was emptied of all but one, Prisoner its most depraved

and one day most famous The marquis De. Sade he had been hearing the discontent of the revolutionaries down, below and he was feeling bored and, annoyed denied his daily. Walks so at noon On july, one seventeen eighty, nine he took the funnel that linked his urinal to the, fortress, mote put it to his, mouth stood at his window and yelled down to the people. Below the prisoner's throats

are being, cut he screamed down into the. Crowd if The marquis De sad is, anything it's consistent and his desire to provoke, people to say scandalous things and get a. Reaction, unsurprisingly The bestille guards were not happy with. Him at one am that, night they seized him in his cell and took him basically, naked to the convent of The brothers Of. Charity it, was In sod's, words an insane. Asylum sod was desperate over the loss of his, writings

which were still hidden in his cell in The. Bastille he gave the police commissioner the right to open his cell as long as his, Wife madame De, sad was. There sod, assumed of, course that his wife would take his writings to, Safety but The marquise had been having a bit.

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Of a change of.

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Heart we really don't know why at long, last the, wife who had stuck With sod through all of his, troubles finally changed her mind about. Him what we know is that On july, fourteenth thirteen days after her husband screamed from the window of his cell and was removed to an insane, asylum The bastille was stormed and blood

ran through the streets Of. Paris we know that she was having mobility issues with her, legs and that she was forty eight years old and married to a man who had spent the better part of their lives together in, prisons and she was becoming more religious at the convent she lived. At and we know that On april, first seventeen Ninety sad was. Released he was, balding nearly, fifty wearing a ratty woolen. Coat we can only imagine the

feeling of freedom after a thirteen year. Imprisonment he must have breathed in the fresh air, exhaled and he had only one the one thing on his, mind his. Wife maybe he wanted to do to her these sexual things that he had described in his letters over the. Years maybe he simply wanted to sit down together to a good meal at a table where they could stay for as long as they. Wanted man and wife reunited at. Last he went immediately to seek her out and found her.

Convent he waited patiently For renee pelage to come meet.

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Him she never.

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Came your wife does not wish to see you ever, again a messenger Told. Sod she wants a legal. Separation sad never again saw the manuscript that he left.

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Behind in The.

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Bastille but the bigger blow was the loss of his long suffering. Wife AS i, said we don't know for sure Why Renee pelaget changed her mind at. Last it's not as though she had a shortage Of BUT i will add one. Suggestion it must have been much easier to have a husband like The marquis De. Sade when he was in. Prison you could visit him and then leave him safely behind, you where you knew you would

find him the next. Time in, prison he could not be frequenting brothels and picking up yet another venereal disease to pass on to. You with him in, prison you had a modicum of control in your marriage to a man who had so abused and degraded you for rene, pelage her husband's imprisonment must have been a freedom that she could not give. UP a certain streak of karma would have Had sad live out the rest of his days.

Alone but he quickly met a new, woman thirty three year Old Constant, quesnay who had a six year old son from previous. Marriage she became yet another inexplicably devoted. PARTNER i know a ton of amazing women who are still single, today and this guy finds endless. Devotes love is not. Fair it was After sad's stint in The bastille and after the loss of his, wife that he wrote the works for which he would become best known in his. Lifetime philosophy in The, Boudoir justine And juliette

were sexually explicit and violent books that shocked society's. Sensibilities sad was free for only eleven years before he was arrested again at his publisher's office in eighteen oh, one this time for the crime of. Obscenity he spent another thirteen year stint in the insane, asylum still receiving conjugal visits from at least two whims women until he died On december twond eighteen, fourteen at age seventy. Four he

willed everything to his second, Partner. Constance he stated in his will THAT i trust the memory of me shall fade out in the minds of all. Men of, course that's not what. Happened the legacy of The marquis De sade is extremely. Complicated at various points over the, centuries his reputation has been sanitized and resurrected as a figurehead against. Censorship at other, points his work has been castigated for

its misogynistic violence and censored all over. Again he is one of those lightning rod historical figures who is endlessly used for the political ends of whichever movement wants to evoke. Him he has been revisited by everyone From flaubert To simone De. Beauvoir Mary shelley may have named her case Character justine And, frankenstein After sad's character of the same. Name The one hundred And Twenty days Of sodom was translated anew Into english as A penguin classic in twenty.

Seventeen it is complicated to Consider sod in the contemporary. Moment do we defend his works on the basis of anti censorship and the virtue of sex positivity or at least open sexual. Expression or do we reject the works on the basis of opposition to misogyny and violence against, women opposition to the author the sexual coercion and, violence abduction and rape actually committed by the man. Himself and how do we even Read sad if we? Do were his writings.

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Even meant to be? Erotic they may.

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Have been at least heartly, comedy partly, satire partly political commentary amidst the beheadings and power upheavals of The French. Revolution Maybe sad was an eighteenth century troll and his works were just meant to be provocative for the sake of. Provocation Duplicit gray writes that far from intending to arouse the, reader the quote repugnance of the one hundred and twenty

days quote makes it far more conducive to. CHASTITY i have to be honest listener Reading sod's works for this, EPISODE i was second by his treatment of his, characters especially the, women AND i want to be very clear about my opinions. Here, often when researching a historical, FIGURE i find myself ending with more empathy for them than WHEN i. Began but in this CASE i just feel

disgusted and yet. Simoned ABOVE whi our mother of second wave, feminism wrote an essay arguing that we should not Burn sod because he shows us something important about the dark heart of. Humanity in the, END i think there's a way to believe That sod should not be jailed for obscenity in his, writing only for his, actions to think that his works should not be, censored and also to think that we need not celebrate in order not to. Censor the heirs Of sod.

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May feel the.

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Same the line Of, sod which stretched back to medieval, times stopped using the Title marquis after his death in eighteen. Fourteen out of. Embarrassment the heirs began to call themselves compt, instead all the way until twenty, fourteen when one heir chose to reclaim marquis. Again who knows what time will bring whether future generations will once more renounce their claims to the Infamous. Libertine that's the story of the Infamous

marquis De. Sade but stick around after a brief sponsor break to hear a little bit more about the fate of his most Famous bestille manuscript and how it actually became the one hundred and Twenty days Of. Sodom The marquis De sade never saw his one hundred and Twenty days Of sodom, again and it was never published in his. Lifetime he died believing that the manuscript was destroyed in The, Bestille but the fate of the one hundred Twenty days

was not so. Simple unbeknownst to The marquis De, sade it was discovered and removed by A ciphilian two days before the storming of The. Bastille it wound up published for the first time in nineteen o four by a psychiatrist and sexologist based In, berlin who published it under a. Pseudonym the book was considered appropriate for medical and psychiatric

use as a massive catalog of sexual. Desire in twenty, fourteen the original manuscript was purchased for seven million euros by A frenchman who had literally won the lottery and was later arrested for running A ponzi. Scheme in twenty twenty, one The french government bought the manuscript for four point five million. Euros the obscene scroll that started its life in The bastille is now officially A French national. Treasure Noble blood is a production Of iHeart radio And grimm

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