NWJ726- The Morning Dump w/Ken Silva: Pipe Bomb Fed, OKBOMB Informant, Kirk Killer or Patsy?, & More

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Good morning. We got Ken Silva with us today. We'll be talking about the pipe bomb fed I mean, we were talking for the show. We feel it's like it feels kind of bad differ when you fed jacket people. But we're literally just reporting news today. So just the facts, then we have the Okay bomb Informant once again just reporting it facts, and then we'll close out with Kurt Killer Patsy. I'm sure we'll get some other stuff in there.

Yeah, there's been some interesting updates, although I have to say, just from the perspective as a news editor, it's been kind of slow. I mean, this is all kind of stuff that me, you and our mutuals are really interested in, but the general public isn't hasn't been following the pipe bomb case much so we need some more assassinations or something to get traffic up at my website.

Careful what you wish for. I really do think it's just the holiday season. I think most people are checked out spending time with family. Even myself, I'm checking back. But like even with this being like something I do even like make some money off it, Like it is still like, you know, spend time with family, you know, the family's home and stuff. So it is like that they really did the pick the ideal time to drop all sorts of craziness on our asses, but kind start

I mean, I don't know.

You've probably looked through enough I mean, not necessarily that you're a lawyer or anything.

We've looked through legal files and stuff.

I mean, I don't This seems insane to me that that's that many documents. I don't know how many documents are typically embroiled in a single court case or you know, so it's kind of makes me wonder, holy shit, what the hell? I don't know any any thoughts and all that. I mean, are they getting ridiculous? I mean, obviously with the Epstein files, we saw some stuff that's like why is this even included in what you're can sing the files? But I guess if it's you know, a three h

But any thoughts on it?

Is it just because they're getting super vague with what they consider to be a file or what's going on here.

Yeah, it's hard to know really what's going on behind the scenes. I mean, this is kind of like you know the Oka See case where they're about to put Timothy McVeigh to death and then they find like a trove of fifty thousand documents a month before, you know, he was scheduled get the needle, and that kind of delayed everything.

Here.

Yeah, they say they have another five million files they need to review before they could release.

Who knows what's in there.

They did produce eight million documents about January six just in discovery, so that's just to give people kind of a perspective that, you know, January sixth was the FBI's largest investigation in the bureau's history, and so this is almost getting there, although you know, obviously this stuff wasn't actually produced in discovery. So yeah, I guess we're just

All right, let's move on to another thing you covered that I did think probably got a little bit lost in the sauce.

Apparently there was.

New information dropped in the Iran plot, which a lot of people don't realize that. You know, this is how they vaguely tie the whole Iranian you know, assassination node into it as kind of what this vague other thing that supposedly happened. But I guess, you know, I think we covered this in the past, that they be the

It kind of makes you wonder what's going on here?

Yeah, well, thanks for bringing this up, because this is actually I think this is the most interesting case going on right now. This is ASCIF Merchants, the guy who was arrested on July twelfth, twenty twenty four, the day before, you know, Trump was shot in the ear at his

Use it as a pretext for war.

And ever since this case was announced, you've had guys like Ted Kruz go on Tucker carlsians Tucker Carlson's show and said the FBI paid hitman to take out Trump. Even Rabbi Schmooley cited this case on Alex Jones's show a couple of months ago, and it turns out that the hitmen were undercover FBI agents. The DJ's official story was that this guy entered the country and pitched an assassination plot to an acquaintance who then approached the FBI and became an informant, and then they set up a

It's really shady. We don't know the full extent of it, but.

It looks really really bad, and I guess. The last thing I'll say is that the reporter John Solomon has a source who told him that he was let in the end of the country on some significant benefit parole program, which is usually what they do to try to either flip somebody or for a sting operation.

And Solomon's source.

Specifically said this was like a fast and furious type operation where they're letting these potential terrorists in to America just to like track them and see where they go and what connections they make.

It's great interesting makes you think about DC shooting when we found out that guy with what like part of the zero units in Afghanistan. So yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly the background. This is sief guy seems like more of a porschemuck than like some sort of you know, literally a stay behind unit.

Type of guy.

But yeah, to kind of tie these all together, I don't know if we've gotten a chance to talk about this, but I know you've got a burning I don't know the infinity for Bongino. He's stepping down. I guess he's gonna be bouncing here in January. This is a clip I've been sitting on for a while that I figured and I almost took it out of my bookmarks, and I was like, oh, Ken's coming on the show. This will be fun to make fun of Bongino. U and I just I figured I didn't I didn don't know.

Dan Bongino, I'm a huge fan. I have been a huge fan for a while. You're a gentleman and a scholar and a legend, and I know you tried your best, and I know you're doing the right thing, and I and I believe in you. It is it is crazy to me that people think this guy didn't do everything he could do. You know, because the question is who else? And I believe in Cash as well. People have been ragging on him out the jet and all that stuff, and I'm like, I'm not playing this game. Okay, I know,

Oh my god, it was so much more worse than I thought it.

Yeah, he's glazing there.

Okay, I'm sorry. I'm trying to keep it together for thiss Okay, anyways, what are your thoughts?

Can Yeah, Bongino's eight month stint as deputy director. I mean, I get the impression from the outside looking in that him and Cash are actually Trump loyalists, but they kind of just got ran by their underlings, like totally taken advantage of and misled at every turn. I mean, the first instance of this is where Bongino goes on Fox News, him and Cash, I think Cash said this on Rogan and they said, oh, we've got footage inside Epstein's prison

Which cameras were working, which can weren't.

And if you just read this report, you'd see that no cameras were showing Epstein's cell, So nothing conclusive could have been proven by the footage that they were touting. And of course when it comes out, it was even worse than what I predicted that they didn't show the cell. It was also like a missing minute. There was some

That never happened.

Bongino defended the FBI's conduct in that case about hosing down the roof the very next day, releasing the body for cremation. So it pretty much at every turn he just looked worse and worse, and it just seems to me that he was getting fed intel and not even vetting it. And it's kind of like the whole capstone of his tenure is this pipe bomb arrest, which also made him look a fool because he had been saying

My crowning achievement.

And when he's asked about, well, why do you change, you know, why do you say it's not an inside job now?

And he's like, oh, well, I was just a podcaster.

I'm paid to get my opinion as a podcaster, and this is me speaking in capacity as a deputy director of you know, the Federal Secret Police.

But of course saying it.

Is an inside job, isn't like really an opinion. That's like an analysis based off of his assessment of the facts, Like an opinion would be, you know, should we have anarchy or minarchy?

Should we have higher taxes or lower taxes.

Like a normative opinion. This is aness, like an assessment of reality. So he's not even speaking the truth there. And now I guess he's going to come back to the podcast circuit, and I don't I think he's burned a lot of bridges.

I think he's going to be kind of clowned on from all circles.

I don't think he has as many allies left, although I guess Tim Poole is still like.

A big fan, which I don't know what's going on there. I mean it seems un I mean whatever, who am I I mean comparatively speaking, but it looks like their number has been dwindling. And every single time I noticed that, always seems there's some other stunt that's coming out to Uh.

I don't know. Maybe maybe it's all just all organic. I don't know.

It just seems it seems like a floundering a floundering establishment over there. But hey, he really means it. You can hear it in his voice. He sounded like you can just tell that, you can hear the emotion. He really delivers the lines just so good, you know. But

I mean I don't know.

Maybe maybe you could say a literal fed, but I don't know if you're thinking breathing human being. I don't know what to make of this. I mean, you guys tell me in the chat. But here's Steve Baker in his own words with Kyle Sarafin and a couple other glowies. I mean, if you guys can't see becat, sure to turn down the contrast with all the glowing. But uh, let's just uh, let's let's just dive rate it.

It's a little bit long, it's the longer side, guys, but it's worth it because holy shit.

Was the you know, the chairman's the Communist Party and sat at the head of the poll up euro there or that's how.

Are actually Before we do that, I do want to remind you for I guess I shouldn't assume everyone knows who' Steve Baker is. He's he works over at the Blaze. He was the one responsible for the j six pipe bomb story that kind of brought it back to prominence. Uh, we cover this extensively over here. He kind of beclowned himself multiple times, end up having to retract.

It's a hole to do.

We won't probably go into all of that, although I'm sure we'll make tons of reference to it, but just to remind you guys who this is, let's go and play it.

The fack that was.

I just want people to digest what you just said. You just said that put me behind the iron curtain, like you just kind of casually threw that out there, like most people don't say that might be the crowning achievement or the sort of the wildest thing that some people have done in their entire life, and that was sort of like the entry point into this weird life that you've lived.

Is that fair?

Yeah, that's exactly what happened, because it was this thing that I parachuted into when I was nineteen years old. I had no idea that two weeks later I would be in a recording studio in San Francisco doing the demo for what would become the theme song for the

Yeah.

And when you said subversive work, you want to dig into that a little bit and tell the lads, not everybody, Like I said, we got a newish audience and subversive work behind the Iron Curtain may may sound a little flippant for what was going on. You want to kind of describe it a little bit.

Yeah, this this organization was a basically it was It was a It was a group that did work not only in behind Iron Curtain countries but other disadvantaged parts of the world China, South Africa, places like that. And there was four bands on the road at all times. Two of the bands were always touring in North America, basically raising money for the two bands that were working overseas. And then when we would then switch continents, so we were at nine months at a time, then we would

Right, ken, Uh, what the fuck?

Yeah? There you have.

It's a leading so called journalist on the January sixth, fed direction is an admitted intelligence asset who was working on covert influence operations. I mean, it's straight from the horse's mouth, unless he's totally full of shit, which I when it comes to this, I actually believe him. It sounds pretty spot on to me because I've always had

Later that night, he interviews.

And he says, the only thing I regret is that I didn't steal their computers, because god knows what I could have found on their computers if.

I'd done that.

But by the time I got into Pelosi's office, unfortunately, there was some damage done. You know, I'm not saying he should have been arrested for this, but I'm just saying he's not acting as a journalist when he went into the capitol.

So after that, he gets arrested.

A couple of years later, and all of a sudden, you've got like senators writing letters saying like.

How dare you arrested journalists?

And Glenn Beck says, Oh, this is such an outrage, such an attack on the free press, that I'm going to give this guy a full time job, and then he kind of gets boosted.

As no job for Steve Horne.

Though, Yeah, exactly when you look at other like Stephen Horn's like a legitimate journalist who is like on the streets during the summer of twenty twenty, you know, getting rubber bullet shot at him and stuff like that, doing real journalism, and he wasn't acting in the manner that Baker was when he entered the capitol. He really was just documenting things. But so, yeah, Baker gets this full time job at the Blaze, and now he's being presented

This is great.

So it's just such a grotesque syop. It's the irony is just really really thick here.

I'm trying to even like understand, like I mean, I'm trying to like find a way to understand this last four minutes that that clip and of not being what you said, I mean, was there, I mean, did he actually did he reference a specific intelligence group or because he didn't say who, but he did say large. I mean I struggled to find a way to understand that without being like, what the what the hell?

I mean.

Said the Department of Interior had a black budget?

So okay, never mind, Yeah, he said.

The Secretary James Watts. What's I actually looked up James Watts. Ironically, at the same time that he's sending Baker and the Soviet Union, he banned the Beach Boys from performing the Independence Day concert at the National Mall in d C. So that's you know, it's neither here nor they're just a little kind of fun fact about who was funding Baker at the times.

But yeah, Department.

Of Interior running covert operations on foreign countries is kind of weird. Maybe they had the black budget to do it, but it seems pretty seems pretty connected to the c what the CIA was doing to me.

Yeah, and I'm curious, I mean, I don't know, if you've dug it up into him, what's his Does he said anything that you know of about his religion? This might be for the chat as well, if you guys know or in the comments, I'd be curious what his religious denomination is too, because he it was a religious cover. So it's like, I don't know, that's what I was thinking at first, like maybe it was like a Mormon.

Could you hear these weird you know?

And I know, even growing myself growing up in the church, I remember there being like missionary like or don't know if they I remember any like actually like coming out of our church or whatever, but I remember hearing tell of like, you know, always these brave missionaries would go over to China and be like pretend to be something else or whatever. So it's like there is kind of a history of you know, us, and obviously maybe there's a positive way to spend it, you know, they're like, oh,

Yeah, I don't know, but it would certainly make sense if it was Mormon, since he got hired.

By Glenn Beck, who's you know, mega Mormon.

That's true.

So yeah.

Though.

The only other thing I wanted to mention about Baker is after January sixth, he fronted like he was gonna fight the charges. He's got all these cringe tweets like I'm ready, like pour me out on the altar, I'm the cup of liberty, like really weird shit.

And then Trump wins.

The twenty twenty four election, Baker's trials in a few weeks and he pleads guilty, and it's really weird because Trump had already won. So you know, the notion that he was going to prison was pretty dubious.

But I think he wanted to avoid the trial because all this evidence would have been.

Trotted out that he wasn't acting as a real journalist, and it just actually, I know a lot of January six ers really were upset at his kind of posturing and then caving at the last second, and again Stephen Horn didn't cave.

He's like, oh, I.

Can't plead guilty to something I didn't do. Not the same story with Baker.

Yeah, I guess we should probably were as before we get into the pipe bomb stor we should probably give like a quick recap of his reporting, because I mean, I know his initial reporting was what that he was kind of basically straight up saying that one the one short haired girl I can rename the Capitol Police, which I know. There was a lot of stuff floated about, you know how this especially being in a more conspiratorial realm,

A recap of his coverage of it, and then I guess that'll kind of bring us to where we are now.

Yeah, well, Baker's the big bombshell story dropped in early November, and he accused, as you said, a former Capitol police officer name like Shawnnie Kirkhanoff who is now is with the CIA. She's a security guard at the campus. I think he initially said that she was working on the director's detail, when that's not true. She's just like manning the front gate. But it was an interesting story. It

One thing, I guess now I have you here.

I was just thinking about it because this is one thing that's always kind of bugged me, and I've always meant to go dig into it.

A little bit.

Kyle actually came on my show forever years ago, and as you mentioned, he he did, you know, I guess do some I don't know if you say reporting or attested to the fact that he he was investigating the neighbor of the Kirkoff chick or whatever her name is, Like I can never remember it, and uh so he came on my show and it was all tied up in this like government travel card or whatever the hell or not, no, like the not a government travel card, but like something to do for the the train or whatever.

I think I believe he was totally tracks.

But do we I've been always wondered, is there any corroborating info on that whatsoever that's ever been released? Like or is that totally just a trust me bro from Kyle sarafin which he is a primary source. It's to be clear, So that is like it does have some

His story would say is like ninety percent true and it has been confirmed. The House Republicans put out a report on January sixth, about a year ago now, that talks about they got a bunch of FBI records. The FBI talks about tracking one person who used a Metro card. The card belonged to an air Force and then they tracked it to this person who happened to be Shawnee's neighbor, which is a hell of a coincidence.

Where Kyle either was lyne or just.

Incorrect though, is that he always gave people the impression or he downright stated that the person that they were tracking was the pipe bomber, the pipe bomb suspect. I always was under the impression, because that's what he said.

So it's still a hell of.

A coincidence that he was surveilling Shawnee's neighbor. But Shawnee's neighbor wasn't the pipe bomb suspect. It was just some guy who was taking pictures and then it turned out that he was out of town. He was using the metro card of the person who actually lives next to Shawnee, and so it's like, I guess three degrees removed. It was somebody staying at Shawnie's neighbors was the person that Kyle was surveiling.

All right, I guess let's get into where things sit now. They have a new guy which is somehow built up on a case, built up on what like receipts or something. But it looks like one of your guys went down there. Oops, my bad, James Rogers from I guess it seems like he's doing work for you now. But I guess he went over and reported on this. And what kind of takeaways do we have from the the most recent stuff

I mean, I don't know.

I'm also extremely I'm kind of almost immediately. My bias is to distress the government. So pretty much everybody's a patsy until proven otherwise for me. So, yeah, is there is there anything to this, what's the most recent going on with this, et cetera, et cetera.

Yeah, this one really does look like a patsy, and not just because you know, we're operating on the basis thing you're innocent, it's still proven guilty. It just like the case looks really dubious. Brian Cole is the guy's name.

So the judge hasn't actually decided on these things.

But the case could collapse before it even proceeds to trial. And again, like he did confess, but the fact that they didn't secure an indictment before they arrested him shows how weak the case is, because normally they would do that and then have him in custody. But I think they were kind of take it hoping like a how Mary, like, hopefully we'll find evidence on his phone or coerced a confession,

Yeah, no, do you put a post here where I saw there? You're kind of pointing out that, hey, there's cameras everywhere too, So once again not looking great for the government.

So it's like they should know. They probably do know, And so I don't know.

I gotta be real. It looks more like some sort of burn plan here. I gotta be real, And like, I don't know exactly. I'm not saying everything's going entirely according to plan and everything's been working out well, but it looks like it looks like some sort of burn plan.

I don't know exactly how that played out.

Maybe this is entirely organic, but that's just the schizophrenic in me, I see this and go, oh, they probably have known this for a long time and they got to weasel their way out one way or another. All Right, I guess let's move on over to the OK bomb

Uh, here we go. I am a federal informant because I think that's pretty funny.

See all right, so all jokes aside, Yes, he is literally a federal informant now, I mean, uh, he put out a sub stack. I don't know, I don't know how deep there's such a this is such a deep hole of this and this crazy thing and that crazy thing when it comes to Richard Booth. I've covered for those who really care to get that deep into it. I mean, I guess I know I'm kind of being a little bit, uh, acting like it is silliness, and it sort of is. But there is substantive things in here.

Playlist with you included.

Uh, he was a wealth of knowledge, now, I mean I did. I did end up reading a lot, like all the books and a lot of the same thing he has. So I don't really feel like I've been missed led by him or anything. But he is like there's a wealth of information people do see like you know, the you know, the evaluate the validity of sources of information. And if people haven't, aren't you know, not everyone's going to read all the books that Richard did, And so

I don't I don't evenally. I guess ken do is there any way you want to you want to go into this, I don't really know.

I will say I am meant to say the second go go check out if you really want to, and I'm not saying this'd be like condescending if you really are like, oh shit, what is going on here?

If we don't do a good job. I literally do a stream called I'm So not a Raper. I don't know when.

It was probably months ago, I know, a ridiculous name. It's totally playing off the joke from step Brothers. I literally did the meme of like them either their heads are like, I'm so not a raper because throughout all the craziness, you know, when he was having his I guess break from reality or whatever, he literally accused me of divulging a rape to him at some point, which I didn't, But I mean, what can I say to

Sure, And actually my fallout with Richard came around the same time as yours, and it is pretty sad because I did consider an actual friend, like as much as a friend as you could be with just some guy on the internet who you've never met in real life. But yeah, my fallout started when I had interviewed Roger Charles, who was a legend investigator of Oklahoma City bombing, like kind of got a lot.

Of the records that we use for our research today. I did the last.

Interview with him in February twenty twenty two, and then he wound up tragically passing.

Away a few weeks later.

And so this was I think, like a year ago. Ahead of the anniversary, we decided to publish my full interview with Roger, like his last interview he ever gave before he passed away, and.

I had my.

Friend and producer the number six on Twitter. He redacted one section where Roger basically kind of talked shit about another researcher.

Named Cheryl Seymour, who a big pair of politics buffs.

Will recognized that name because she wrote a book on the octopus and a lot of her research was underpinning that recent Netflix documentary about the octopus scandal.

So Roger kind of was talking a little shit about her.

I won't go into details, it's just you know, kind of petty grievances between them.

But I took that out.

But at the time I trusted Richard and he had a full copy. And because Cheryl Seymour, like this is also stupid, because Seymour's friend was with Wendy Painting, he published the part where Roger's talking shit to be like, see, Roger didn't like her. And I said Richard, like, you don't have permission to do that. This is really fucked up.

And after that, I told Richard.

You know you're dead to me, I'll never speak to you again, and we never have, so I think that basically hit his argument. And after that he threatened to leak more information and try to get me in trouble with the Epic Times over the whole Danny Colson thing and all this other stuff that he says would have been covered by my non disclosure agreement, even though it turns out that that's not the case. So that was like my little backstory with Richard.

But the reason we're talking about this now isn't just.

Over petty aggrievances with another Okay Sea researcher. There's a real public interest here because he is recently saying that he's going to inform on Jesse Trenadu to the Justice Department. Essentially we can get into that.

Yeah, I guess we can just go ahead and read his post. Actually, the reason why not Radicks he or posted it she said, a more disturbing behave from Richard Booth suffering from spiritual sickness. I mean perhaps, but yeah, I mean, I guess. I just hope he stops. But here he is a disparring Jesse Trendo. He says, as part of Jesse Trendy's legal battle, he shared sealed information with Wendy Painting, information that was sealed by a judge, which she then put into word and distributed to people

So I don't know, what are you? What are your thoughts? Can uh? Because yeah, I mean this is literally him telling everyone I'm informing to the FED, to the FEDS. Like, I don't know what else to say.

Yeah, where to begin?

Well, I think we should probably add that he threatened to kill Wendy in a few months ago.

Yes, I forgid about it.

I don't know if we never I never covered that because it was up in the air and we didn't really want to draw attention to it because it's like, you know, he's literally he's committing an open and open crime, like and it's like we're kind of like, if anything, hoping that because he's literally putting out a beacon to the FEDS, and I'm like, I'm hoping that the FEDS don't reach out to him to compromise. So we were trying not to make a big deal out of it, but here we are, Sorry, go yeah, so.

And so, yeah, I think it's legitimate to ask whether he flipped, whether they paid him a visit at the time, and flipped him or if he was a fed even earlier. But I guess this particular crash out stems from It's actually kind of humorous, and I got permission from Jesse to talk about this. Just before I jumped on the show. He reached out to Jesse under an anonymous email sent The email was like triple Helix at gmail dot com or something like that, and he claimed to be a

Oh, he pretty much fed jackets Eric Hunley. He says. Eric Hunley has conducted.

Interviews with approximately seven different FBI agents on his show. He appears to maintain very cordial relations with the FBI. I would kindly suggest that you give this some careful consideration. You could verify this by visiting his YouTube channel. And then he talks about Margaret Roberts, who is an author who came out with the book about trying to do his story earlier.

This year.

She says, I also observed that Margaret Roberts, the author of the book, seems to have close ties to several FBI agents. He goes into that a little and I'm trying to get the part where he touts Richard Booth.

Oh yeah, he says, it's a real quick That is, by the way, he said in bajillion alts, that's the best way to discover a Richard Booth. Booth all, you'll be the one guy sucking off Richard Booth so hard.

But he says.

My understanding is that Richard Booth was involved in fact checking Blowback, and I think he probably did a pretty good job, because the book is actually good. But when you listen to her being interviewed, you can tell she doesn't even know the material that is in the book interview.

So he finishes up.

But what I did notice is in your interviews with Eric Hunley, you are not afraid to say quite clearly.

That John do two was a fed. However, Margaret Roberts is terrified and won't even go into that.

Then she talked, he talks more shit about Margaret Roberts. So he sends this and Jesse forarded to me at the time, and we're like, bah, that's obviously fucking Richard. And so Jesse responds a day later saying, thank you very.

Much for this email.

I was truly not aware of most of the information you sent me. You have certainly give me much to consider. Meanwhile, ask for Dick Booth. I have no respect for the man, and I am sure that if you was still alive, my dear friend Roger Charles, who Dick claims was his

Meanwhile, he's the one doing shit like that, Like I can go ahead and tell you I know him and particularly another person is doing that about me, which like whatever, Like I'm not making a think of it. I don't fucking care. But yeah, this is the sort of shit he does. I mean there's something else in there. Oh yeah, this is public, so I don't really know you didn't

So actually, I'm glad you brought that up because that's a key point that I wanted to mention that Richard's justification for deleting the Kenneth trying to do website on Kenneth's birthday the thirty or not his birthday, the thirtieth anniversary of his death, is that, oh, Jesse trying to do told.

Me to and I'm gonna do it.

You know, if you told me to do something, I'm gonna do it.

But in fact, Jesse was saying delete the website and then kill yourself. So he's not very good at following instructions. He did the first thing, but he didn't follow through with.

We're still waiting, Richard.

Part of the instructions.

And so obviously Jesse was like being a little facetious, like if you delete the website, you should just kill yourself, and then Richard you, oh, well you're He takes it literally for the former but not the latter. So yeah, fuck you, Richard. I'm sure you're gonna clap back against both me and Jose on your whatever irrelevant little sub stack do your worse.

By the way, I will go ahead. He was threatening you with fighting.

He never said to me, I will tell him if he does want to come somewhere nearby, I will gladly meet.

Up and beat the fuck out of you. I don't give a shit. But I'm not fucking flying to wherever the fuck you are to go fight because I'm an adult man with mortgage debay. But if you want to get like a three mile radius, I'll come out, take a drive down road and beat the fuck.

Out of you. Do something.

Yeah, we'll do it. It'd be fun. I don't give a shit, all.

Right, I was actually considering I'm like buying him playing tickets because like I don't want to show up to him and then he have like a gun. But if he were to fly to my area, I'll have.

An uber pick him up from the airport.

We'll go to an MMA gym, and yeah, I would be happy to do that.

So yeah, let's follow up on that, Richard.

Yeah, I'd be able to pay for the privilege.

Like I mean, like, obviously I'm not gonna put myself out enough to like go you know, across the nation, but like, yeah, I might like chip in thirty forty bucks for a cab or whatever.

I'll push his shit so far and then not even he would like it, and I'd say it a lot because we know Richard's little kinks.

Yeah, well feds might too. But let's check in. Let's see Wendy respond to this. So I figured we should at least read her response she put on Twitter, because I think she denies the because he's seemingly playing hard and fast with the truth, which I mean, you never know if he's just being stupid and doesn't actually know, or if like he's intentionally misrepresenting things, or maybe I'm wrong,

Well, also crazy that I don't.

Have or that I don't, nor have I ever been in the habits tributing my notes widely or publicly, or for any reason other than in a research context. They were shared with him and only him in a research context, in good faith months after they were written. More concerning than stupid notes, obviously, are these threats to destroy a man who has only ever worked tirelessly to learn that is about his brother's murder, whether or not the force

Oh he did it.

Oh, now there's another thing he did supposedly posted. I don't know if you have any update on that. Is there anything new? He supposedly posted the login info for the can threatened to do side I think right, which basically all already nuked at once. So this kind of is becoming a bit of a tired game and just feels like elder abuse a little bit.

So he also said that he's, uh, he got a visit from an FBI agent a McCann. I guess that was in response to an article that he said, like audios fellas, and I guess the FBI is worried that he's gonna, you know, followed Jesse to trying to do his final instructions for him, which never.

Mind, all right.

I don't know if there's anything else really with Richard. I mean, I feel like it's worth mentioning this is going on. I guess, let's say in they if you think of anything else worth responding to.

I don't really know. I think we kind of handled it.

I mean, he's out here threatening to he's literally working with the FEDS, threatening to go after Jesse Trent. He's not even threatening, he is working with the FEDS.

So yeah, yeah, Well, since we're I guess we're on the subject. And I'm not going to talk about this again, but I'll get it off my chest now that he is saying that Eric Hunley's YouTube series has published a bunch of misinformation, and then he does mention me and says, you know, Ken's not lying, but he.

Quote confuses everything.

Well, Richard, you've been studying this case literally almost ten years long. To me, you've been studying it, says it happened. It's the only case you study it I'm a reporter.

I've got like.

Ten different projects going on. So if I confuse a couple of dates or something, yeah, that's gonna happen. And I've just mentioned that he wrote an article about the January sixth pipe bobs.

That's just the whole premise is incorrect.

He says, Oh, like the pipe bob the timers were set at zero, and so this raises a whole number of questions. But if you actually knew anything about that case, Richard, you would know that the one found by the RNC had twenty minutes left on the time or not zero. So the whole premise of your article is incorrect. There, you're not as smart as you think.

Well, I will apologize for gassing him up so hard, because that is like the come the always the go to is like, I don't think you realize how good I am on podcasts like okay, cool man, which I mean, I get it if you were a podcaster, but like, I don't know, it's whatever.

It is also ridiculous.

A lot of this comes back to like, oh, this person's not even good at podcasts.

They don't even do podcasts. They don't they don't even know.

The information they're like, yeah, you're literally like your only thing has been that and to be And I've actually tried to get him on larger platform podcasts and he would, for whatever reason flaked out like you. For example, when I went on Dave Smith, he was supposed to come with me, like he was supposed to come on, and he didn't. So I mean, don't get me wrong, he did good. I mean, my series is great, but I just I don't know this, this is ridiculous.

It is just weird. I don't know. Yes, he does have good command of the information.

But like also to your point, like for example, I'm a podcast or I cover a million other topics, so it's like I can only get so good at one. Like I can only read so many oklaham City bombing books or go I need to read some other things so I can actually have a well rounded bit of information. So I mean, that's kind of like my go to thing, but there's a million other things as well. All right, let's just shift gears from from Richard, but it's kind

Do doo claims?

Yeah, exactly, But uh, I know, any thoughts this. I dug into it a little bit. I went over to his YouTube. I don't know if you've done any digging around. I tried to contact him. It looks like he's been like hiding comments.

He's been unlisting things, you know, unlisting videos, relistening. Looks like some shenanigans going on and right now and then I poke over there to see what's going on, same thing, I'll see like a negative response and it's gone like so I don't know. I mean, I dug through his videos and I did. I mean, who knows. You never know. Maybe this guy could be telling the truth.

But I got kind of schizo boomer like, I don't know what's going on here? Have you talken to this an anything more? And I guess kind of may general thoughts and I like, am I being too skeptical here?

My being an asshole?

Like I kind of it's like I don't know if I want to believe, but it is like there is there was a woman, a nineteen year old girl that did get there was reported she got fucking shot in the face.

So I don't know, thoughts.

I am even more skeptical than you. I think it's totally a crazy person. I mean, he called the FBI in twenty twenty and just gave this information and they wrote it down in a report.

And if you compare.

What he tells the FBI to some of his videos, there's a lot of contradictions. I mean, I think so again, I didn't do a story on this. My member is a little hazy, but I believe he says that he's driving a limo and Trump's in the back talking to somebody. He's saying, Jeffrey laughing about molesting a girl. And then this is like in ninety six, and then he eventually talks to somebody and realizes that the person Trump was talking about it was that person's daughter and she got

But if you actually watched.

Them, oh yeah, let me tell you about John Doe two.

Oh yeah, and then yeah, the thing that makes it really incredible is that he says that, uh was a he was at a restaurant with Hillary Clinton and Hillary Clinton's security guard. Uh he he got kicked out by Hillary, and then Hillary fights fired the security guard, and that security guard was John Doe two and did the bombing like in revenge of that whole incident, which is just absurd on the face of it.

So John Nichols, John Nichols, Yeah, that's yeah, which there is no if you're thinking your immediate thoughts, oh, that must be one of Nichols brothers, there is no John Nichols.

Yeah.

It also there's a I guess in a parapolitical lore, there is a John Nichols and the whole Cabazon thing.

But I looked into him. He would have been like seventy, like over seventy the time, So it doesn't really fit.

But go on, if you want to steal man his case, you could say, oh, maybe his story about Epstein was totally true, and then the FBI tacked on this John No two stuff to make him seem crazy, and so that would be to give him total benefit of the doubt. But when you watch his videos. His story changes from

And so that's totally different from.

The story in the FBI where he like he figures it out years later. The FBI reports actually much more plausible. But yeah, this just seems like total just total slop. It's just it's really crazy that it's kind of huge. If you like look on liberal Reddit, like a lot of the turbolibs are taking this.

This is like there smoking gun. Everybody's talking about this, and.

It's just it shows you how the the Libs are just as you know, retarded, as like the QAnon people.

Yeah, and to be fair, I think Trump's probably a pedophile, so like, uh yeah, but this is it. You gotta you gotta question everything if it's if it's confirming your bias and it sounds retarded, like maybe looking do if it's retarded, uh uh or I mean, even if it's not retarded, should probably look into it. But this one's kind of a very low hanging fruit. This, I think this might be retarded. So uh, the fact people are getting hoodwinked by it, it's a little bit okay whatever,

Uh, but let's get into Uh.

I guess we're gonna report on some fed slop now, which I guess that's a new thing. If you say nary a negative word about Candice, I guess you support the FED slop. I think the official narrative. I think you can flex and ping thirty six is off your neck, no problem, uh, because I don't completely buy into Egyptian planes and spooky military men telling you things and we should totally trust them.

Bro uh, which I don't know what.

Maybe we'll touch a little bit on Candace. But I do gotta give you credit for I know you we talked before the show. You said you've completely checked out of the Candas stuff. I poke in occasionally because it's kind of in my purview with things and is it's just gone Uh, it's gone beyond crazy town. Uh So it's and it's kind of it's unsettling seeing that people still on the train. You're like, it's it's retarded. Literally, the latest in the in the things is literally a

Uh?

Yeah, real quick on Candace, I mean I checked out after she totally cocked to eric A Kirk. They had their in person meeting, and then she went on her show and kind of said, oh, maybe Tyler Robinson really.

Did do it. It was a good meeting.

She like kind of really toned down, and then her audience started to turn her against her. And so I'm guessing without having watched any of the Mitch snow stuff.

That that's where that comes from.

That she's bringing Mitch Snow on to try to regain and recapture what she had with her, you.

Know, stupid drift. So yeah, that's my two cents on that.

But we do have some movement on the actual case against Tyler Robinson, the accused gunman. The the unsealed there had been like a secret hearing about whether he should be allowed to wear street clothes and be unshackled during his court proceeding. I guess the government has security concerns that they expressed there and there was a big argument there, but the transcript was just un which is a win for transparency. However, we also have issues where both parties still.

Want to ban.

Cameras and streaming and the actual proceedings, which would just be a huge boon for Canvas and all, you know, the idiots. So hopefully they don't do that. But we've got a couple court hearings coming up in January and a lot of the big things will be decided.

Then.

They haven't even arraigned him, by the way yet.

One thing I thought was interesting in your reporting, you showed that apparently they've his own attorneys confirmed the government story. So I mean that doesn't obviously to be very clear for the people who are like, oh, you're a pushing fed slop or whatever. It's like I've studied enough crazy deep events where I mean, it's not at all unheard or the defense team to be infiltrated or or even so far as like it's all just some sort of you know, show for the people.

So this doesn't necessarily.

Mean anything, but it means but it is, you know, it's more to the point of like, Okay, I still would like to see, you know, the tape that magically went missing, but I guess this is currently the the their defense, like his own legal that's the legal defense, not the legal defense. Obviously that's not how they're defending it, but that is there. That is their stance. So this is what occurred. So I don't know if you have any thoughts on that. I mean, I know there's a

Well, that's the biggest piece of evidence that makes me think that the kid actually did do it is the fact that his parents turned him in after he like

Law provides for.

And Candace has also raised questions about this pretty much. I think her story was that, oh, the reason the parents turned the kid in is because they were threatened, like, hey, we're gonna raid your house with you know, a swat team and bring him in anyways, or we.

Could do this the peaceful way.

And I don't even know where she got that from, but she also said there's contradictions where Tyler threatened to kill himself if they turned him in, but that's something that was like just total bullshit. So that's just another example of Candace just kind of throwing anything against the wall that she can. But in any event, at the secret of this transcript from the secret hearing confirms that the lawyers did say that same story that he turned

To the judge.

So it seems pretty compelling to me that this is actually what happened.

All right, let's uh, here's good. Let's get a little bit weird. This is something you shared. You didn't report this necessarily, and I guess you quote or you tweeted it, but I just kind of wanted to get your pick your brand, because this is something I've had saved my little book mark Fulder for the show for a while now, and just kind of I don't even know what to think about it, because I know it's meaningful, but I just keep like mulling it over and I just don't

Yeah, I know, the Daily Mail source was a turning point us a board member, so I would almost take it as a grain assault.

Although you did, you have heard a lot.

Of rumblings that Charlie Kirk would have eventually have run for president.

He was being groomed to do that, and I think that's probably true.

And I think the more interesting thing is learning more about Charlie Kirk, because I never really studied him much while he was alive.

Is that apparently he actually.

Was a big promoter of Vance and maybe even introduced him to Trump like at first.

So I do find that interesting. And yeah, I think it could have.

Been true that maybe he would have been Vance's VP or down the line he would have started some campaign. I mean, he's a great debater, he's tall, you know, he's got like the cookie Cutter family and everything, So it's very plausible.

What are the implications of this for you know, his killing?

I you know, I don't think it really has much to do with that, but it's yeah, I guess it's interesting.

Yeah, I mean it's one of those ones where you're like, I don't even know what this means, but like, okay, I mean maybe I'm trying to you know, I guess because I'm obviously incorporating the death. I mean, could it obviously could just be a random, completely not tied end thing. But it does kind of make you scratch your head and go huh. But either way, I guess at least a little bit interesting look behind the curtain saying a little bit weird to let you go after a couple

Cow.

Here is I just want to show you because I talked about this last night. This is an example. Here's Nick flint As absolutely ratioing the shit have him. I know, obviously this isn't you know, a substantive example of like if someone's destroyed or whatever. But it does show, I think somewhat, especially when it's to this ridiculous of a degree. It shows where the people's energy is at, like what they think generally speaking, especially when you have a sample

What's up with the relations to this guy?

And she almost like seemingly purposely avoids the point every single time, diverts into some other thing. For example, at one point he mentions his you know, kind of young Russian Kazakh wife, kind of seemingly probably making allusions to, like, I know, some sort of her being basically a build a bitch, possibly which I don't know who knows, but either way, then she gets on a tangent of like, oh, oh,

Very weird and very weird fashion.

So he's also like on Christmas Day but this weird thing with him with lizard mask on and giving a really creepy message. Weird shit. But uh, I just I want to show you. And then obviously don't have anything about the Mitch Snow stuff. That's just too ridiculous. I see people in the chat saying that there was an MP report in Son's phone call, confirmed report, Watchka love you, black Eye. But the little bit I paid attention. I don't know about the son's phone call, but I've seen

And even if you do assume it's true.

It's literally saying that he showed up there, made some sort of crazy scene and got kicked off the base. So it's not even like really at not even really Like it doesn't prove that he saw this secret meeting, and yet it made it proved he was in the vicinity.

Like that's it. But I don't just any thought. I didn't know if you have any thoughts.

I just want to show you an example of like clearly the damn's breaking on the Candice Drift. I mean, obviously funt as his own gigantic following h but the stuff spooky over there, you know, for example, I mean, you can't even let the if you are someone who's like,

Valily, so you can see right here. Paul E.

Valily, Advisory Council Member, Major General, US Army, was born in Dupois, Pennsylvania. He retired at ninety one from the US Army as Deputy commanding General. He graduated from the US Military Academy West Point YadA, YadA, YadA.

You can see all his accolades.

You can even even point out he worked in special operations, psychological and civil military operations. To let even hide it, this is yeah, advisory council member for TPUSA, Paul well Leily. You can see his name right here, Colonel Paul eve.

Valley. So yeah, there he is. So yeah, wild shit. But yeah.

So, I mean I'm saying this whole thing glows all around, and I think the dam's breaking and hopefully people can break out this silly little dialectic and that it's like it's one or the other. No, maybe they're all retarded, or they're all playing you. One of the two be a little bit smarter. But Ken, I don't know if you have any thoughts. If you have any other thoughts, so you can you can let them out now. Otherwise I think I've kept you here long enough.

We can let you go.

I forgot to show you a couple crazy candases before I let you go, just to kind of let you know that I think you were right.

Oh yeah, yeah, I love to see it.

I mean, when I was going against her pretty much within weeks of the Kirk killing, and at the time you know, Flint has always hated her.

But it's pretty much.

Like a bunch of Zionists, and I was one of the only one, like anti zionist journalists doing this, and like a lot of people accuse me of flipping two. I'd get like twenty comments every time I express skepticism. And obviously it's almost like a cottage industry of people debunking Candace. So I feel like my work here has been done. We've got like Alex Jones, Gary Melton, the paramount tactical account other people are constantly just debunking her.

Hell yeah, yeah, I don't know if you drop any plugs. I mean, you're over at Headline USA. I guess you don't really have any other plugs in that. But I appreciate you being here. Let you go, I'll have you on again. I'm sure some other time we'll pop in the chat say hello, and we'll run through some foreign policy then we get out of here.

I appreciate you joining me today.

Bub All right, have a good one take care, Are you too have a New Years YouTube? Bye?

All right, guys, we'll pop in, we'll do the We'll probably maybe do like should I say good mornings and all that feels weird so late into the show, maybe some of the last ones. An Actually, let's pop in the first like ten minutes or so, we'll say good morning, sir. Buddy may pop into the bottom see if you have any guys, any thoughts, and then we'll run through some foreign policy and get out here.

Maybe call it early Day to day.

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Jackety comments, so you have an odd way of show showing it, uncle Ted, but I'm glad you like him. Good morning, Mustache, good.

Morning, good morning, good morning, Tony Chin, Good morning, chows in the cornfield. Let me see who else we got, see IF's anybody else, Good morning. Mike full Liberty says something about Kyle on info WARS. I didn't see what you were talking about there, Kyle dropping something on info Wars. May see if I go back, Okay, here you go. Did you guys not see the video of the black autistic dude the FBI is trying to pin it on driving his blue Nissan at the same time the actual

Kyle.

That's what Kyle dropped on Info Wars, which, like, I guess, good for him. I know I think people should stray away from that guy. But whatever. All right, guys, let's go through foreign policy. Let's run through the last Let's go through the last little leg of the show. Here today, we're a little bit out of order. But tomorrow I should be back, maybe solo, maybe we'll have Austin with us.

I'm not sure. I won't be here Friday.

By the way, my kiddo has a wrestling tournament, so I will not be here for the Friday dump. So sorry, you guys will have to wait till next week. Let's

So yeah, just shooting.

Let's see if there's anything respond for them. Waffall supported their child. The women were injured by Israeli attack. West Well, I'm not saying anything in here about a response about Israel confirming or giving excuse or anything, which they probably stopped doing that a while ago.

But yes, I would I would take that as probably a cease fire violation.

I know we are our present recently said that there are none that they've been They've been upholding their side of the deal one hundred percent. But I would say murdering children, that might that just might be breaking the ceasefire because it would contain it's it's literally fire your fir rings. So you know they were therefore not ceasing the fire, I mean, but yeah, I mean, according to

I could totally get it.

During all this too, he got Smotridge claiming that he is full U has support for illegal settler expansion in the occupied West Bank. So that's great that he's spreading that word around. That's just wonderful. Let's check on that, Bazaye little Smotridge the Finance Minister of Israel. He's a bank or the backer of the illegal seller movement set in Thirtiecember that Washington has given Tel Aviv full support to expand settlements into the occupied West Bank and violation

And last last.

Story over here in foreign policy, Uh, not looking good on this Russia front. But I mean, obviously Zelensky's a little liar too, so who knows, But we got Zelenski out here saying that he's holding with Trump talks with Trump on a US troop deployment to Ukraine. So Zelenski said on Tuesday, these held talks with Trump's on the possibility of the US deploying troops Ukraine. So he made the comment when asked that the US plans to deploy

US officials have said the US is.

Offered NATO Article five style security guarantees to Ukraine, but have not said that the US is willing to send troops. So, for those who aren't aware the article, that's literally like the whole thing to start over is that we didn't want to give NATO involvement. So now it's technically non it's they're saying it's Article five styles. So I guess

Great.

Either NATO style security guarantee or NATO troop deployment would almost certainly be rejected by Moscow, and the fact that the ideas are on the table makes a peace deal extremely unlikely. After holding talks with Zelenski and Florida on Sunday, President Trump said the issue of land is also not settled, as Ukraine is refusing to see the territory it still controls in the Dawn Bass, a key Russian demand. So great, isn't it great? Finally we finally ended the war over

Yeah, well that was right after their story. I know what you're talking about.

You're talking about the police woman, the lady we were talking about, and then they find that norbit looking guy in reference to the j six pipe bomb story, Yeah, I did.

I mean, obviously, who knows.

You can never put too much stock into single little anecdotal occurrences, but it is it was awfully convenient that, right when the blaze of story was falling to absolute shit, that we get this obvious, like very obvious looking patsy so they can.

Go, oh, well, that's totally not the guy. You guys are so stupid.

Meanwhile, what they said was probably fucking stupid as well, although maybe they were correct, but it clearly was built on quicksands, so very very shitty reporting. So, uh, Tillis's didn't I ran to Claire Warren us I don't think so that.

I recall, Maybe Gerald says jest is handsome.

That's the last time I'm gonna say that in twenty twenty five, liably many more times for that here in twenty twenty six, U pjrs As are we having fun yet?

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Lots of lots of fun. Shouts and cornfields. Is when organizations or governments do exactly what the US and Israel need them to. I'm a little suspicious me and you too. Brother Tony Chin is telling us to watch the news tonight and avoid public spaces.

Okay, I don't know if you're meaning.

We're like referring to Oh, I get what you're saying, because it is New Year's tonight, so he's the kind of higher chance of things happening.

All right, guys, what's uh? What's pop in?

Let's say our goodbyes. If you guys have anything else interesting to pop into the chat, I don't. I don't know have anything else for you guys.

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