NWJ 531- Waco Weirdness w/Austin Picard

eyes to have a new use. And so but we figured as we were covering it in our you know, as since that was the original or last time we covered it was meant to be like a thirty second I believe anniversary, and it just felt not appropriate to really be kind of treading over it would have made

it like a way too long of anp episode. Plus it just kind of felt like, you know, just for the sake of what we were trying to do, just a you know, an anniversary episode, kind of stick to the main points, maybe a little bit new stuff ish. But then we decided we'd taken another separate episode and really really dive into that, and that's what we're doing here. But before we get into that, I do need to take a moment to pay the pills and let you guys know the today's episode is brought to you by

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let's get to it. What's up, brother, how you doing?

remains the same. This still is ultimately one of the all time best examples of what your government is capable of, right and so like, at the end of the day, no matter if the kind of our original starting point from just the recent anniversary episode where we covered the base and really UH illustrated the foundational principles of what mattered most and in terms of Waco, like, this is not at all, in my mind casting any any shadow

over the victims in a negative way. I think, if if anything, it would be UH providing us an optimistic window into reinforcing the reality of this, this very strange clandestine network that as we continue to spotlight and and UH and and as far as within the context of our research it really does this almost proves positive of our our strange gladio everything theory. Yes, brother, like I know that this isn't this is not something that I

I initially intended to ever consider. And and again this is a newly found alternative theory, so and not at all something that I went out of my way to pursue, like it fell into my lap due to my natural process of pulling at those tugging at those threads of investigative interest, and you know, inevitably I wound up in the dystopian land of mind control, right, which unfortunately seems to be all too often reoccurring.

tippy top of these things weird. I mean, once you start getting a little bit of the monarch blurn in there, you get some weird esoteric occult stuff going on here that you're like, I don't know what the hell this is. So I mean, when you start going further, you start learning Cabbala type stuff. And now we're talking about some dude in some sort of cult that's going to Israel and getting information revealed to him, and uh, call me crazy, maybe I'm a little bit conspiratorial here, but uh my

head starts opinion when I hear these sorts of things. So, I just if you've since the last time we and we touched on that a tiny bit in our last episode, But is there anything in this realm that you feel like with their bear significance rehashing before we get into some of the other things, because yeah, this is the

lead up before all of it. So but it's like, I think this is important, Like this is some sort of theological something, whether this is whether we want to be cynical, parapolitical you know, analytics analytic analyzers and be like, well this was a but like I don't know whether it's wu wu or it's not. Something happens, something will happen there, you know what I mean?

Timothy mcveay very strangely. But but uh, but of course, uh, there's there's something I discovered about his potential mentoring and candidate connections that I was unaware of until recently as well, which I thought you would be so fascinated by it, and uh, if you hadn't already been exposed to it.

But but what I will say is that to begin with, by the way, you want to go all the way back to like the the history of David David himself or Vernon right when when he's he's when he's a young man, you know, he's legitimately.

them in a very disruptive, chaotic position. And as far as like terms of his childhood and so his real mother, by the way, was wasn't even revealed to him, right as far as like the truth about his real mother and and things of that nature until he's like five years old, wasn't he like he thought he was his sister or something where yes, man, it's such a it's such a crazy And then so this kind of stages his his life experience and in a very interesting way.

And and so then uh to make this situation, uh even worse. So it's at this time in his childhood when Koresh is said to have began to be sexually abused by one of his mother's male relatives. So that yeah, and so in July nineteen, patterns here exactly trauma based mind control in a way, if not just traumatic child abuse, obviously paving the way for some some sort of yeah psychological definitely, you're going to have a pattern that that will uh yeah.

uh monarch and how it might work. It just seems like the common theme is it's always like early life, something happens, you know, crazy trauma, and then something it's like later then they get activated and it's like they're they're almost unwitting, like between the two and they almost seem like these seem like two unrelated events, but somehow it ends up the same result of But it's like, I know, we've theorized a little bit about like how there would almost need to be some sort of method

of communication, and some of these weird like Temple of Set or the Church of Satan and like the there there's the structure of those entities kind of fill that role. But maybe also the same could be said of where like wherever the hell? Uh, you know, I don't know David went in Israel, so like I don't know, that's the kind of things, you know, whatever happened to him as a young child with his mother's relative and then you know, then later in life and he's like, are

these things connected perhaps? And is that too, skizzo, I don't know. But once you've dug into digging sort of things we've dug into, you know, like the the coded messages for you know, elites to procure children and stuff that have like been kind of born out, you're like, I think this is kind of how they operate. No, absolutely, And.

as well as that. Starting with that pilgrimage in eighty five where he's witnessing visions, he's nineteen years old, and he has an illegal sexual relationship with a sixteen year old girl who becomes pregnant, right, and so he never saw the resulting daughter, and then the teenage mother thought him unfit to be a fog, so she moved away

and refused to ever see him. So this is when he becomes or claim to have become, a born again Christian and soon joined his mother's denomination, the Seventh day Adventist Church, and so that and then, by the way, there's an additional interesting point there because as he turns twenty man, he has a sexual relationship with the fifteen year old daughter of he begins a two year relationship with the daughter of his pastor, and during this courtship

he's praying, apparently praying for guidance, and he he states that none should want for her mate, right, and basically is telling the pastor and the father right that Essentially, he says that it's really interesting because he's convinced this was a sign from God. Apparently koresh when he approached the pastor and told him that God wanted him to have his daughter for a wife, and that's when he's

expelled from the church. So I found that part to be worth mentioning as well before we get into more of because again it like also stages this strange issue he's already developed with with. You know, clearly he has some sort of proclivity for a younger mate, right, which he's he's justifying in biblical scripture, which he claimed. I

really that kre allegedly dude. Yeah, he says he's praying for guidance during their courtship, and this is when he allegedly opens his eyes and found the Bible open to Isaiah thirty four to sixteen stating that none should want for her mate. And this is apparently what convinced him that it was asigned from God and what led him to approach the pastor and her father and get him expelled from the church, so that kind of sets the

path for David in a very strange way. And then David of course claiming visionary experiences right which he reported to have experienced a vision when he went to Israel in nineteen eighty five, and he claimed that he had visited Heaven, was acknowledged by God as his son and given the ability to see the true meaning of the Bible. And in nineteen ninety that's when he filed a legal

petition to change his name to David Koresh. And so, yeah, I found that interesting as well, because based on his visionary experience, Koresh claimed that he was the Lamb of Revelation, the only person who could unlock the seven Seals of Revelation. And in Revelation six, the Lamb takes a book sealed with seven seals out of the hand of the one on the throne, who is Christ in Koresh's interpretation, and opens it. In the future kingdom, the Lamb will be married.

This will create a quartet of father, mother, son, the Spirit, and the flesh Christ the Lamb and his wife for perfect mate, who was also an extension of the Spirit.

the Assyrian. And so in the Branch Davidian interpretation of the end Times rapture, the Assyrian will enter the Holy Land in the land in the last days and interfere in God's plans for Jerusalem. God will deal with the Assyrian, and everyone not will to acknowledge God will flee the Holy Land. The Lord will then establish his kingdom on earth with the one hundred and forty four thousand people

with him at Mount Zion mentioned above. So that's exactly how you're dealing with, you know, the modern Babylon Right is essentially what's occurring here where you're seeing the ultimate right doomsday prophecy take place. As far as what essentially begins to happen is that Babylon will persecute God's people and what Babylon.

basic thing, same goal points. And he comes back and now he he's you know, been you know, has this hidden information and it's super set on this apocalyptic you know, rebuilding the Temple and the things of the like type stuff. So well, yeah, yeah, he said.

after the millennium. But this is very interesting as far as this, this sort of you know, this in times prophecy that's playing out in many ways, and it sort of as it becomes it justifies really what what occurred at the time, you know, in the minds of a

lot of the Branch Davidians. Unfortunately, they believe they would be martyred by and especially even by fire, which was very much a part of his prophecy itself, which I found interesting as well, and that it would be in the form of two separate attacks, which also I thought was very strange.

able to go to Israel. CRUSH's continued teaching of a baptism of fire, his apocalyptic theology of martyrdom, and this basically how Mount Carmel was sacred, and uh, this all obviously played a role in the final events due to of course this this clear you know, reference to a baptism by fire, you know, and and uh anyway, so another thing that I thought was very interesting was again

you had strange controversies right regarding their unorthodox lifestyle. But I felt like this is worth covering for a brief moment and then we'll we'll pivot.

spiritual wives from among the young women and girls. And so in eighty nine he began to teach that all women in the community, apparently including those married to others, were his wives. All the men other than himself were to be celibate, and then he taught the branch Davidians

that he was to father twenty four children. These children would be raised within the community and would eventually serve as the twenty four elders spoken of in the Book of Revelation who would rule during the millennium, which again, apparently among his spiritual wives was Michelle Jones's sister of Rachel, who was twelve at the time and obviously below the legal age of consent.

being destabilized and destroyed by David. And so it wasn't Yeah, everyone locally the branch Davidians were fine. They weren't causing any real problems. But again you have to consider that fact that there there's obviously collateral damage here in terms of families involved, and and uh and in any of these unorthodox groups and organizations that exist like that is the case.

the term is, like don't talk to these people. Yeah, and they do kind of separate, sequester them from the group. And so that's okay, it sounds like what you're saying. Okay, So it does. Obviously there's gonna be lots of parallels about Jones Sound through this problem. But it's I'm talking about Jonestown was building.

that's playing out in a very criminal enterprise established way. It's very difficult to conceptualize for the average person who hasn't been introduced to many of these right investigative threads of interest that are far more credible than you would ever imagine, right, And that's what you good.

you can you can redirect us there. But I figured we wanted to talk kind of about I kind of you know, talked about the MK ultra with the wu Wu side of things. But now I think we're gonna get into like kind of direct you know, direct, straight up mk ultra type of overt implications.

and that's a that is real, that that's on. Never am I attempting to cast a negative light on the victims. It right in any way, But it's just the reality of this situation. It's very unorthodox and uncomfortable and unfortunately, when you're dealing with these cult of personalities like a David Koresh, it's a reality that you know, we're facing here.

And I remember when I first approached this story, you know, I wanted to I wanted to run from that thread, you know, I just like it scared me, you know what I mean? Like, honestly, it was something that I didn't find anything that seemed credible enough to pursue at the time, but still I had like stumbled upon something where I was like, WHOA in passing, what was that?

as far as the alternative theory. But here's something that I think would be a fun way to kind of begin this, because this was something I discovered recently going back through the Alex Constantine archives.

had started freaking out, and uh. And so basically this would be a great way to at least introduce this, this alternative theory. So the Waco drama was piloted by the ninety two standoff at Ruby Bridge obviously, which you know as has served basically served as a prequel of sorts to the Oklahoma City bombing in many ways.

And in Oklahoma it was the boy next door, and in Waco it was the seductive preacher man. And so it's very interesting how this is presented. But basically the way it goes, it's Bill and Hillary Clinton. Right, as former Clinton advisor Dick Morris put it, Bill Clinton personally orchestrated the ninety three Waco, Texas tragedy. Nevertheless, Janet Reno was apparently set up as the bad guy, her role

allegedly posing a threat to her reappointment. And so, according to Dick Morris, Janet Reno made this cryptic remark right, And this remark says it was regarding the way coincident in connection with her reappointment for a second four year term, as she said, if you don't appoint me, I'm going to tell the truth about Waco. And so that, of course, you know, made people definitely pause because what did she mean by the truth about Waco? Obviously, and I found

it interesting the way he described it. He said, the general public was already as dazed as deer in the media headlights. What could she tell us that would have

broken the spell? So interestingly, as we mentioned before that is where the three of the Bill Clinton's bodyguards during the ninety two election campaign were engaged in the Waco operation as BATF officers and were three of the four who were actually killed in the initial raid, right, And so the BATF investigative report, made public as an affidavit for the search warrant, was a.

I also think is very important to recognize. But by the way, I discovered that Timothy McVeigh I didn't realize this, but in order to fulfill his military obligation, McVay signed on obviously with the Army National Guard in Buffalo, he lands this job as a security guard with Burns International Security. McVeigh was assigned to the night shift guarding the grounds

of Cowspin Research, Right. Yeah, man a defense contractor that conducts classified research in advanced aerospace, rock treat and electronic warfare. And now that drew my attention instantly obviously and apparently naval research lab attempts to meld neurons and chips. This is a study that was presented that says, as studies

may produce army of zombies. And this plays into how all the green berets potentially went through this sort of strange psychological uh you know, conditioning program, and so it

says future battles could be waged. This is such a crazy implication, and this is in a mainstream military you know, publication and says that naval research lab attempts were were involved here, and so it's described as future battles could be waged with genetically engineered organisms such as rodents whose minds are controlled by computer chips engineered with living brain cells. The research called hippocampal neuron patterning grows live neurons on

computer chips. This technology that alters neurons could potentially be used on people to create zombie armies. A senior fellow at the Brookings Institution said, so, of course, the you know, the uh, the think tanks, which, by the way, I believe it was the Council on Foreign Relations seem to have been blamed in having some sort of role in regard to a lot.

so uh yeah, that that's very interesting. And again he's the guy who has the crazy jonestown claims and as as far as the Green Breys being ordered to shoot on site all all the remaining victims and survivors and claiming that it was just a clean up crew for MK Ultra and that they were operating a covert Clindestine Mkultra black site, and guy, I.

site during the final siege, right. And that was another thing, by the way, I heard that Wesley Clark potentially played some sort of role originally kind of like you know, he he was tied potentially to Waco as far as being involved because of these tanks coming from Fort Hood and and all these interesting like Colonel Gerald Boykend's being involved, right, and Peter Schumacher who was also a general who was the head of Special Forces I think, uh, that's at

Fort Bragg at the time, and so they were all directly involved. They were there on site on the final day of the siege, right, And that that alone is fascinating stuff, you know, especially including the fact that you have you you obviously have an international intelligence footprint there as well, where it seems to be an intelligence sharing operation.

fact of Danforth report in context. Right, there's an abstract that describes that in nineteen ninety nine, former Senator John Danforth is appointed by Attorney General Janet Reno a special counsel to investigate alleged illegal or improper behavior by government agencies before enduring the Waco critical incident in ninety three.

His final report to the Deputy Attorney General exculpated the Bureau of Alcoholic Tobacco On Firearms, the FBI, and the Armed Forces regarding possible violations of Posse commatatis law and related statutes. Now, after further examination of the Danforth report, obviously in context, it's basically damp Forth called for government openness and candor regarding Waco, but delivered an unequivocal defensive government forces instead. Right, so that's something that's important to understand.

And so I think that the place to start to iron out a little bit more of these mind control claims would be honestly Jolly West and his potential connections here because apparently, yeah, short so I was unaware of the fact that you have from the archives right the UCLA archives of Jolly West, there's a potential connection to Waco because there was a Waco file and shortly after

he had entered University of Wisconsin. Now again, his connection this is all just alleged for Jolly So it's just it's difficult to tie him directly other than this file that no one.

During his internship at the Payne Whitney Psychiatric Clinic, he became familiar with scientology, a cult he soon considered dangerous, right when he has those run ins when yeah, I don't know. That seems a little strange to me. But transferred to the US Air Force Medical Corps, and five years later he's appointed Chief of Psychiatry Service at the

Lachlan Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas. So in this position he studies US pilots and veterans after they had experienced torture and brainwashing, obviously, and then it becomes chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of California in La So Ucla, and obviously he becomes director of its Neuropsychiatric Institute. Now this is where he's alleged to have treated Charles Manson, Sirhan and later David Koresh.

And so that to me, knowing already his his direct affiliation with Tim McVay, I'm not at all shocked that that that would be a possibility. And then you consider this from the archives Children of God cult, these files from from doctor Lewis Jolly and West's collection, says MK ultra researcher doctor Lewis Jolly and West spent years heading organizations related to cults like the Cult Awareness Network and

Center for the Study of New Religions. After the Waco incident involving the Branch Davidians and David Koresh, the notorious child abuse cult that doctor Ruth Wangren Wanderin has suggested may have ties to the CIA, broke their years of media silence and reached out to, among others, UCLA, doctor West Right, so, uh, the professor at the Neuropsychiatric Institute. So in my mind, you're just witnessing a further connection that he potentially played here with in regard to UH.

If there was actually Right a connection to Jolly West and the Branch Davidians, you know, and the allegations that I've always seen that he treated David Koresh, then we have a little bit more of a tangible thread that we can pull on there and hopefully I can discover something more more credible at a later at a later point. But yeah, So beyond that, man, I think the best place for us is is the Wilcher Report, because that's really the main crux of what I wanted to talk about.

It's basically the core issue because to me, it draws

in all the usual suspects. You have Paul Wilcher, right, who who will get into his He's this attorney who represents these two whistleblowers, and who are CIA covert operatives, and and this all ties in this individual named Gunther Ross Russbacher, uh the CIA operative which which discusses being George Bush's pilot in the infamous October Surprise scandal and and talks about Danny Castlero's octopus and BCCI being involved, so the Brank Bank of International Bank of Credit and

Commerce obviously, So this all begins with Paul Wilcher writing these letters.

Stitch and gunter Carl Russbacher. He Wilcher dies in these strange, disputed circumstances a month three weeks after writing this letter to then new US Attorney General Janet Reno, alleging that the CIA was killing people to cover up mind control experiments and that the Waco incident was one of these events, which he directly parallels to that of Jonestown, which of course collaborates and and and corroborates and at least provides some sort of credibility to that of the theory that

bo Gritz was mentioning in regard to Jonestown. Right, they took all these leftover loose ends from the CIA Montreal experiments for mk ultra in in Anada and just took them down to Guyana and added them to the body count, right, And it was it was a very convenient way to tie off lou sins. And so it gets very interesting because he had apparently obviously if you're if you're the death of Paul Wilcher, Uh, we'll have to get into that, because.

descriptive terms. He says he he knows exactly how uh Paul Wilcher was murdered, and and he knows the make and model of the vehicle that he was put in the in the trunk of after he was drugged, after being beaten in his interrogation in regard it to to all these various profits that were being this uh laundered through the BCCI right at the time, right which can consider that with Iran Contra and and everything else playing out, Danny Castillaro has just been murdered, and Paul Wilcher saying

I know more than he did, right, and he legitimately says this, He said, I know more than Danny Cassi Larrel knew about this octopus and and he said, my

life is in danger. And the same about Russbaker. This gun through Russbaker, he's a CIA black you know, clandestine operative working under cover and U and as he realizes that members of his covert operational group were being targeted for assassination, right because things were being leaked about the October surprise that was happening, which he apparently piloted the flight and gives the list of individuals. Once a helicopter crash happens.

bones of it, right, it's it's interesting. And I got a hold of actually the original expose and the the apparent apparent three part a Wilter report that was sent to Attorney General Janet Reno, which is very interesting.

fires were fueled by mind control. At least that's the impression you get when you read Attorney Paul D. Wilcher's letter to Attorney General Janet Reno, dated May twenty one, nineteen ninety three. The letter begins with no salutation the phone numbers of Miss Reno, Justice Department Communications Director Carl stem Appointments Secretary Melissa Muller, Assistant Attorney General Richard Scruggs, and James cremarcik Special Ops CIA. With a typical loyally

lack of style. The letter begins vital new information concerning the conflagration at David Koresh's Branch Davidian Compound quote Ranch Apocalypse outside Waco, Texas on Monday, April nineteenth, nineteen ninety three, which is now being kept from you and covered up.

actually happened in Waco. The extreme sensitivity of this information and my specific proposal as to how you should handle it, The lives of key participants, other witnesses, and even myself are now in grave danger as a result of my passing this information onto you. If you let this information fall into the hands of the wrong persons, some or all of those who know the truth about Waco and are now prepared to come forward and testify could well

be silenced ie murdered in the very near future. In the extreme importance of this information to the overall quality of justice under the Clinton administration, to your own place in history as Attorney General, and to President Clinton's very life and personal safety, this information, if handled in the manner I've spelled out in detail below, presents you and President Clinton with a once in a lifetime opportunity to expose, confront, and hopefully root out much of the system wide corruption

which has been at the core of the federal government for at least the past thirty years. Now, he says, the purpose of this letter is for me to deliver to you extremely sensitive information about the deaths of the eighty six men and women and children who perished the Branch Davidian compound on Monday, April nineteenth, nineteen ninety three,

and the truth about how it all happened. But even more important, my purpose here is to demonstrate how the Waco tragedy fits into a much bigger and far uglier picture, and to present my specific, detailed plan as to how you should attack the overall problem at its root causes. Now, it's interesting because the subject of mind control is introduced on page four, when Wiltshire writes.

Institute in Waco, the LMI. Wilter pointed out that similar CIA sponsored cults are located across the country, including such places as Salt Lake City, Utah, Provo, Utah Provo, Utah, Logan, Utah, Boise, Idaho,

and San Francisco, California. And that which, by the way, is very overwhelmingly represented by modern day process groups right the best Friends, all the strange weird Mormon connections to Utah Right, which which obviously at one point played into even Watergate, which I felt was hilarious.

been part of the chain of command. He then lapsed into more of kind of reciting the disciplinary rules and codes of professional responsibility from the American Bar Foundation. But this is where it becomes very interesting. Thoroughly covering the details of the lies told by government employees at Waco, Wilcher wrapped up the motivational part of his argument and launched into a background brief on events leading to the February twenty eighth raid on the Davidian compound.

them by their contact persons or handlers within the agency. Third, David Koresh was very much like Reverend Jim Jones in that he too was a quote gangster who used a Bible instead of a gun. In a note, Wilcha remarked, Jonestown was not a mass suicide any more than Waco was instead Jonestown. Like Waco, was a mass murder in order to guarantee that there would be no survivors to tell about the CIA's extensive mind control experiments which had

been performed on those mostly black victims in Guyana. Fourth, David Koresh was also very much like Charles Manson in that he, Jones and Manson all demanded and received total domination over and total submission from all of the men, women, and children in his group, And like the Reverend Jim Jones and Charles Manson, and David Koresh likewise had received much of his mind control training at the hands of

the CIA and was a product of their system. In other words, David Koresh may have been what most people would consider a thoroughly and mentally disturbed megalomaniac, but he was the CIA's megalomaniac, or at least someone they were all too happy to use for their devious right wing

purposes if and when the opportunity ever presented itself. Indeed, David Koresh and these six other men in his inner circle had apparently been pre programmed by the CIA to become on cue Manchurian candidate assassins apparently who would effectively essentially develop a weapon of some kind that he viewed would would this. This is what he also explained to because if you go through a lot of this, it's

very strange the CIA had. Obviously, you know, one of the most important features of the mind control programming is the fact that you have critical segments of the subject's memory, including most or all of the programming experience itself. It basically self destructs, right, It's a it's a racete from the subject's mind and at a basically it's a memory of alteration done at a subconscious, unconscious level, right, And that's something that I think is difficult for people to understand.

But this is you know, implanted false memories things of that nature. You know are are obviously playing out as well. And you know you have obviously you you you also have these these handlers utilizing the subconscious mind in which you have let's say, you just have these trigger mechanisms that I think it's important to understand, right, is a is a huge part of how this this actually fundamentally operates in the mind of the victim. But but yeah, this this is where we get into kind of.

with the President Bush Senior, right, George Bush Senior. And this is very interesting because obviously he explains specifically who was on the flight right and the chain of command as well. But the October surprise itself, Wilter cited his client. Paul Wilcher cited his client, Gunther Carl Russbacher, the CIA covert Operative Office of Naval Intelligence. He so his client describes a lifelong covert operative for the CIA in the

Office of Naval Intelligence. As far as Paul Wilcher described his client as the pilot of the flight that flew George Bush and others to Paris for a meeting with Iran's leaders during the nineteen eight the election campaign so Russbacher claimed to have flown Bush to France in a BAC one to eleven owned by the Saudi Royal family. By Russbacher's recollection, the aircraft left from Andrews Air Force Base near seven am Eastern Standard time on October eighteenth.

Rendezvoued over the Atlantic with a Grumm and Gulf Stream flown by Heinrich Rupp and landed at les Borges Airport. Russbaker returned Bush to the United States and at SR seventy one, which landed at McGuire Air Force Base at ten fifty am Eastern Standard time. After dropping Bush off at McGuire, Russboker continued a loan to Andrews Air Force Base. So this is interesting as well because if you look at persons.

a huge list, but let's see one, two, three, five. Yeah, it's about twelve people, right, but still Andre Yeah, definitely an elite cadre of individuals who most of them would be future CIA directors, which is, you know, very important. I think to understand if this is a legitimate in my mind, everything checks out again. This is an individual who you have to consider what happened in terms of the cover up during I Ran Contra, the death of

Danny Castilero. This, in my mind, would fall perfectly in line with the octopus. So basically Russbacher alleged to be involved in the ground level operation.

so I found very strange. But in ninety two, Gunter Rossbacher was sentenced to twenty one years in prison for financial crimes. Russ Baker's wife, Raillian alleges that he had been a key figure in the Arms for drug scandal under the name Emery J. Pitten Peddin and that this sounds a lot like Barry Seal and similar in a similar way, and that at the time of his arrest in eighty nine, he was living in a CIA safehouse and his office was at the Langley, Virginia, CIA headquarters.

All of the evidence of Gunther's ties to the intelligence community we were effectively procured by the FBI after his apprehension, and in February of ninety three, Rallian would claim to have provided Congress with the cockpit video from the SR seventy one during the return flight. Where as far as the hostage crisis is concerned with George Bussior in the October Surprise.

its tracks before Clinton's team came into power. And this could be a window into power struggles and DC and the internal kind of criminal syndicate and how they really function in some sort of way, because it couldn't possibly be that they're all on, you know, on board with the same exact agenda. You would have to imagine warring factions playing out. It's typically the way organized crime function in the first place. And so yeah, and basically.

And if you consider how Paul Wilcher, who is the attorney, original attorney for Gunter Russbacher right, he he died in a very strange way when he tried to get the the right the three part report, the Wilch report to Janet Reno, and that death again is something that's worth understanding.

he's told all about the October Surprise. So he had every single last aspect of the details playing into the October Surprise, the individual names involved, and that he then came back and debriefed right the task force, the October Surprise task Force, which, unfortunately, apparently, like most Senate and House task forces, the October Surprise was a complete whitewash, as all the rest were.

bright and shining you know, ethical standard in the first place. Right, So it really wasn't all that difficult if you're running drugs, uh domestically with for the for the US intelligence apparatus.

But but yeah, anyway, so Gunther and it's interesting because he starts gun thro Rust Baker starts explaining what was happening with these covert operations at Waco and uh and basically he he kind of outlines, you know, exactly what what was taking place and and essentially he says that yes, the Waco Sleepers had somehow been triggered and and this is where you kind of get into a little bit more of the details of what could have potentially been

happening at at the Branch Davidian complex. So it looks as if and this is according to again this is ray Lean, right and uh, and she's explaining how the Davidian group was created to perform a terrorist act similar to the sarin gas that was released in the Japanese subway by the Amschinrikio Colt right. So again this is

part of the Wilchi report. Randy Weavers listed in the Wilcher Report of the Ruby Ridge incident as being a control subject that ended up out of control, and Russbacher never never provided any further information on Randy Weaver being a potential you know, Manchurian or at the very least being involved with this very same operation. So Russbacher introduced

Wilcher to members of his seal team. These men and others are the government employees who gave Paul Wilcher the information he put into the one hundred page letter he wrote to Attorney General Janet Reno. So in the letter, he explains that various government mind control experiments obviously, and he attempts to obviously walk us through a lot of the details of how this is even possible in the

first place. And this is what he was trying to explain to Janet Reno, although he didn't realize Janet Reno wasn't really a good faith actor in the first place. She was she very much became compromised if she wasn't to begin with, but she tried, He tried to at the very least give her some.

Information received by their handlers stated the program had been accidentally triggered and the seven Sleepers had started building the device. So this is but Russbacher actually gun Through Russbacher had actually told to Paul Wilcher, And so it looks like Paul Wilcher was not told about this mission right as far as the Waco Sleepers had been as far as he was not told about the mission the Waco Sleepers

had been prepared to carry out. In terms of what was this device for, right, that's the main point and so meaning of course, the primary source of gun through Russbacher, by the way, is obviously he's the primary source in

the Wilch report. And so this is when the outline from this chemical device of the Sleepers that they were constructing and alluded to and how it might have been used was at the very least it was somewhat alluded to, but not in real detail, so Wilcher was not told that the Sleepers had accidentally been triggered, but they were building a chemical device which they were planning on using on Oklahoma City. The Sleepers had been programmed many years before.

In the ensuing time, it was discovered that the wind currents in Oklahoma City would have dispersed the chemicals so that it would have been rendered ineffective. In other words, it would not have killed the massive number of people that needed to be killed to send a message to the American people. The chemical device which the Seven Sleepers were in the process of constructing could have killed up

to three hundred and fifty thousand people. That is the allegation which every agency or department was in control of the Sleepers, or whichever agency or department was in control of the Sleepers in this project made the determination that Houston would be a better target than Oklahoma City, so,

in other words, more people would have been killed. And the Seven Sleepers had not yet been recalled apparently as far as their programming was concerned, and and so they apparently hadn't been recalled and reprogrammed with the new instructions

such as dates and locations. So apparently that is how they actually can follow through with with a lot of this these potential kind of sleeper cells that that are conveniently stationed in controlled environments, because that's again what what you know, the theoretical outline here is that this could potentially be what is happening, right, is that you have sleeper cells that are stationed to condition groups of individual citizens, let's say, you know, in a controlled environment right where

where you can kind of conduct this very sophisticated level of research. And you wonder why all of these interesting you know, how many right, the international footprint at Waco was very strange, to say the least. And so according to this Office of Naval Intelligence Cioperative Gun through Russbacher, there was another message being sent. Russbacher once stated that Randy Weaver was also a programmed sleeper and indicated that

Vicky Weaver had somehow deactivated Brandy's programming. Russbacher seemed to imply that the attack on Ruby Ridge was intended to send a message not only to the Patriot community, but to all sleepers from the Special forces community. Some of these sleepers realized they had been programmed and were trying to find the sleeper program and deactivate it themselves. Russbacher said this was happening in some of the men who

had been programmed during the Vietnam War as well. So he's claiming that during Phoenix that all of these sleepers began to wake up to their prior programming and reject it, and then, knowing in hindsight what had occurred, were effectively

attempting to reprogram themselves in some very strange way. I'm telling you, man, this is all something that I've Again, I'm presenting this the best that I can because this is something that I've just recently discovered, and it's also very interesting trying to figure out what's most important to present. But it's like, with the amount of time we have left, it's it's basically impossible to do.

from one of my one of my listeners. It's actually from Tim Tuttle, and I just I guess he was obviously it seems like he knew ahead of time that you were going to touch on the David and his six followers being sleeper agents. But the key question he asked is how much weight does he put into it?

covered in blood. They claim it's not his blood. I think Stephen Crawford's involved, the security guard on the campus that night. But inevitably it's tied directly back to the processed church of the final judgment and a ritualistic, occult murder that very much she had been Apparently she was from North Dakota. David Berkwoods, himself from Son of Sam Murders,

even wrote about how Arles Perry's murder was ritualistically. Obviously it was a ritual practice and it was honestly just a blood ritual inside of a chapel as well, with every single aspect of the crime scene being staged, a candle inserted into a vagina like like her legs being put at a strange specific angle where her her jeans were draped over her by by the by the perpetrator in in that very same angle with an ice pick shoved into the back of her head. But she didn't

show signs of sexual abuse. It was very other than obviously the candle and those the strange.

at Waco. And so that alone made me think is is this is this potentially could we have some sort of wider network playing out here and some some gladiol style terms right where where this is more realistic than you would think and uh And I believe that at this point after reading into this, I think the ultimate thread is Paul Wilcher and the Wilter Report And I believe that Guntha Russ Baker was the pilot that day. I think that he can tie in the October surprise

and Danny Casselarro's octopus to the BCCI scandal. That kind of proves out how Iran contra where laundering and money at the time and drugs and many other things, clandestine operations in general. And but you know it's it's more than that as well, right, because you have to consider the.

up and let them go. It had to keep a careful watch over them and if push came to shove

to take them out to kill them. If the CIA ever felt that Koresh and his six follow fellow sleepers could no longer be counted on to carry out their pre assigned mission at some date in the future or has ultimately occurred, if there was any danger that they might someday testify in a court of law or otherwise be able to expose the public as far as to the public to the real truth about the CI's mind control operations, I think that alone is at the very

least worth worth identifying as a realistic possibility, right, Yeah, But when you have when you legitimately have a part of the Welter repport being you know.

again you have Sarah McClendon, who's who. She's part of the White House Press office right at the time, and she's legitimately like she's worried about Paul Wilcher because he was actually had press credentials at that time, right, was legitimate, like he was a corroborated journalist before he was found dead in one of the craziest uh, you know, examples you could ever discover. So this is the very beginning

why Waco, it says, and this is alone. We could probably end with this because you know, there's just so much it's just too much, you know what I.

Wilcher's sudden disappearance. Wilcher worked closely with Gun through Russbacher, obtaining hours tape conversation about covert CIA operations, including the October surprise in slaw BCCI and other covert activities. Russbacher sent copies of the fifty five tapes in addition to the hundreds of hours so in addition, shortly before his death, Wiltro had obtained the names of many US Congressmen who

had been bribed by BCCI. Wiltro was a threat to Justice Department officials, federal judges, members of Congress, and other US officials. Marian Kendig, a friend of Wiltchire, went to his apartment a couple of days earlier and got no answer when she rang the doorbell. She rang an adjacent apartment seeking to have the person signal the front door to open. She wanted to leave a package on Wilcher's doorknob.

So this is how his body is discovered basically. But Sarah mcclindon asked the Washington Police to go to Wilcher's apartments to check on his safety, stating that several friends had not seen Wiltchair for the past two weeks and that they feared foul play. The police refused to do so, and it was also described, as I had read earlier, as if they didn't want to get involved in any real way, which makes sense based on the military intelligence

like infiltration of the local Metropolitan DC police department. But either way, so he's clearly he's discovered dead. And it's very very strange in the better way to expose the details of that, because you actually have Russbacher himself, the actual cia O NI operative. He explains exactly what happened to this individual. He provided all the information to Paul Wilcher, and this is what he has to say. Gone through, Russbacher releases information detailing the last hours of Paul Wilcher,

how Paul Wilcher was murdered. Paul was picked up at his apartment, taken to Vienna, Virginia where he was questioned as to the Bush, Webster and Carter account with London s w BCCI. He was questioned for approximately two hours, at which time he was fed. At three forty pm on the eighteenth of June, he was administered point zero two five milligrams of Cure AIRR via DSMO as a stabilizer. It was applied to the coding of the pepsi bottle. At point of death, he was beaten to the face

to make it look like a mugging. Now, this is coming from gun Tha Usbacher, the alleged OH and I CIA operative who was running covert operations drug smuggling for the Iran contra network, the pilot that ran the October Surprise,

who effectively exposed the BCCI you know connection. This is all what he has to say, obviously in his attempt to expose this this wider network, but also in his attempt to corroborate the legitimacy and credibility of Paul Wiltra himself, who was the attorney who sought him out and attempted to expose, you know, the truth in regard to what at least potentially could be the truth in regard to a covert Clindestine operation being exposed.

pry into a lot of these these dealings. Now I'm trying to again, uh all all, uh all, fundamentally, uh you know, kind of affiliate myself with the far more of these details over time, but with the I.

He had already emptied his bowls at death in another location, the ball was removed and disappeared. Autopsy errology will show this curere dmso in the cardiovascular sack. Uh paridinum. I believe peridinum.

the fact. So several others, of course died, and and they were claiming up to fifty some odd cut you know, covert operatives were effectively targeted and assassinated throughout the course of this uh you know, attempted exposure and and so the primary cause of death, according to gun through Russbacher Bush Russboker video of the return flight from Paris and the SR seventy one.

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