NWJ 368- Chasing Chickenhawks w/Lena Ajit

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was like, I'd love Devulina's show. This is not knowing who you were at all, just based off threads on Twitter, and I was like, oh shit, that's weird how the world works like that. So it's a pleasure having you here. It's kind of weird how it worked out.

dugged your threads on Twitter. So if there's things I'm leaving out, then that just you feel free to inform me in my audience.

him as well. But yeah, outside of that, I research a lot of things in the parapolitical realm, you know, specifically, I've been sort of interested and had a file networks and how those networks seemingly tie in to political power, blackmail operations, and sometimes serial killing.

touched on that I recall. I don't remember if they really dug into these or if these were fresh stuff, I don't recall, like I recall like some of this stuff being stuff that obviously the presidity, not the presidio, but the the what the the daycare case, Like I recall that I recall like it's like I recall some of the individuals like that were in the eye the

Chicken Hawks and in their little graph. But I just I don't know if this is like a specific thread you've been following and you fleshed out more on your own, what what put you down this path specifically?

But the way I sort of came out upon this West Point thing, and you know, it had like percolated in my mind for a while since I'd read Program to Kill. I always wanted to know more about it. I knew the basics that Rudy Giuliani sort of steered the grand jury, there were no indictments. There seemed to be like real like substance to the allegations of a from the children. So I was always curious about it.

But I actually didn't stumble upon any of this information looking into West Point Child Development Center specifically, I was actually doing research on NAMBLA, and you know, I was just going through all of these old newspaper clippings and trying to dig up stuff on NAMBLA. And that's how I came upon Mark Raymond, who, as far as I know, is the only person who's really been mentioned as a person of interest and actual like participant in the child development scandal.

which is a great book. But this is like surface level parapolitical stuff. Yeah, you're like, oh, you read Chaos, that's cute. Whereas we're at either Chicken Hawk, a Program to Kill like these type of dark, dark books. So

where did like I started from theory world. I was like a bit of a par of like or a political theory nerd, like a libertarian and cap world whatever, Like what got you to this dark corner of I guess what we call parapolitics to where we are here this this is clearly your specific interest, Like if you're I'm not sure how much you know about me. My thing has kind of been like the Oklahoma City bombing.

That's kind of where like become my niche. Although I am, I am also like that I find there weirdly to be connections between these started dark things. There always is when you dig a few layers deep, it's always the

elites trying to fuck your kids. But uh, just kind of curious how you've gotten here because this is like a it's almost like the parody that position that they say us conspiracy people have, but it's like yeah, but we can like legit break it down for you how it's like happening, Like I don't know if this was like on the show or if this was before we started. I was mentioning the dew Trow case that I've been covering on my morning streams. It's like I can list

off the over twenty suspicious desk connected to it. Yeah, I mean we're at a spot where it's like we're not really being crazy, like this is stuff that's happening. How did you get to this dark corner of research?

after reading Program to Kill. It really changed my life and I couldn't go back. Like once I had read that and I started looking into all of those things. I couldn't stop, and I couldn't look away like once. It's such a powerful thesis. I feel like in Program to Kill, and you know, I've always wondered, like why, specifically the phenomena of serial killing and the United States.

It always just struck me as a very bizarre phenomena, And after reading his book, I just I couldn't stop, you know, so it started me down this dark path.

like very serp. Then you get to chaos, and then you get aberration in the heartland of the reel by like wit painting with the local city, and then you start getting to like McGowan and then you're like, oh shit, like I'm seeing what's really going on beyond the veil, and I'm a little bit scared, and it's kind of kind of where we're petering at, which, yeah, I guess let's let's get back into what we were talking about, the the what you were wanting to talk about today.

The Mark this Mark Raymond character, who's I believe his brother was essentially the main dude of Namblah. So I mean, I guess it's we can start wherever you want. I have a actually I'll bring up right now for the audience. I'll go ahead and bring up the the what did we decide these are called?

And uh yeah, I'll let you take the lead.

And I stumbled across a newspaper article connecting a guy named Mark Raymond with not only NAMBLA via materials that he's actually receiving to his West Point address, but his brother who's a steering committee member there, but also to the West Point Child Development Center scandal that had always piqued my interest, and not much information is really available

about and Mark Raymond. In I believe, nineteen eighty five nineteen eighty six, he's formally accused of molesting one of his or two rather of his coworker's children at a retirement party, I believe, and it's investigated in nineteen eighty six, nothing seems to come of it because he moves on I believe, to Santa Cruz and then he ends up

honorably discharged after receiving some like commendations and medals. So even though he was receiving CP to his West Point address, there seemed to be credible allegations of abuse against him from two children and the parents of the children. You know, nothing happened to him and he continued to have a good military career and a good journalism career as well. So a little background on the Raymond family. So Mark Raymond is the guy who's associated with the child development scandal.

His brother is Steve Raymond, and Mark kind of throws his brother under the bus when he's accused of, you know, touching these kids inappropriately, and you know, like the allegations of the material that he's receiving to his West Point

address come up. He throws his brother under the bus and he says, Oh, that's just my brother who is deeply involved with NAMBLA, and I just so happened to fit like what everybody thinks a pedophile is like, AKA, love spending time with kids that I have no relation to. I participate in youth organizations, and I'm not married and I don't have any kids of my own. So kind of a suspicious thing to say, I think. You know, usually you don't have to defend yourself against abuse allegations

in that way. But a little background on the Raymond family, I suppose is in order I covered this in my thread, But the Raymond brothers were born in Modesto County, which is north of San Francisco. Their father was a reverend at the first United Methodist Church. They lived in Ukaiah for a while. A lot of people might know of

Yukaia because the People's Temple was located there. Mark Raymond actually interviewed Jim Jones and a lot of people associated with the People's Temple while he was a journalist for the Ukaia Daily Journal, which is pretty crazy. I was very surprised to find that. I was like, I just want to see what this guy's journalism career is like and write a base.

As we're finding out, I guess it's not even newer, it's just people are just now catching on to this detail. Is that there seems to be a generational thing going or a fit millial SRA sort of related things or kid stuff going on.

seems to be a bizarre commonality. I'm noticing although it is a week, it's a week, it's a week. What's the word indicator? But yeah, no, I know what you mean.

haven't found anything that confirms that I didn't know. I do know that he was involved with various youth organizations, but you know, I don't have any like dispositive information that suggests that. But as to the fireman case specifically, yeah, you know, working in John Ray's office, we found at the office that Rex Hoireman's first cousin was a Satanic ritual abuser. He was also a Lutheran pastor in Camelis,

New York. So, yeah, there are a lot of these types of like weird family connections, and you know, the more we talk about this, like some of these like strange family relations will certainly come into play. One of the Raymonds relatives was associated with Robert Maxwell as well.

And Steve Raymond and his book, his horribly bizarre and disgusting book, The Poison River credits debt Live Raymond, the Robert Maxwell and Pergamon Press associate with sort of like helping broker his release or at least putting in a good word for him in Washington.

let's let's keep it moving. We'll take this wherever you want to go for because we were at the family I took a side prink you a little bit.

is something that's been bothering me. But throughout Steve Raymond's life, he's the brother of Mark and he's who's affiliated with NAMBLA rather publicly at every point it seems like his mother, Ruth is right there with him, even though he's doing all these like horrible, degenerate, profligate, illegal things, you know, in those I posted this on Twitter, but you know, Steve Raymond is working with these like Mexican orphanages, and at one point he posts like what seems to be

like an advertisement for a child in a local paper, and it's his mother who's posting it with him. And then later when Steve Raymond is running his travel business where he has like a Thai callboy ring and is you know, basically doing like sex tourism in Thailand with children, it's his mother who's helping him run tourist service unlimited, and she's in the advertisements in the newspaper with Steve

Raymond listing these things. And it's his mother again who helps try to get him out of prison in Bangkok. So you know, there seems to be a family affair. I don't think my parents would help me if I were arrested on similar charges.

we can take this wherever you want. Now let me bo. I'm sorry, I'm trying to move this. You brought up the tie things. I don't know if you want to bring it there, And that reminds me of Gary Glitter. I believe that guy got busted in some I don't know if it's this one as well. He got busted in some tie operation that seemed to be where a lot of these sick fox used to go is tied to do the really fucked up shit. I mean, although they would were doing the mess up stuff kind of everywhere, it seems.

what they were up to over there. So the allegation is that Steve Raymond was running He was implicated in a scandal where a orphanage was a front for a brothel on The orphanage was publicly operated by Mark Morgan. Reportedly the funds for the orphanage for it's even open, those funds were provided by Howard Ruff, who was a

Mormon like financier and you know, like venture capitalist. Howard Ruff claimed to not know what was going on, and often in a lot of news reports, Howard Ruff is credited actually with like bringing to Washington a lot of the information that private investigator had furnished him with showing that Mark Morgan was not running an above board orphanage

but rather like a child prostitution network. I talked about a lot of this in my thread, but recently, because I knew we were going to be talking, I just wanted to refresh myself a little bit on all of this stuff. It's a lot of information. Make this map for you, and I ended up stumbling actually on a lot more people involved with this operation. So I've included

that here in the chart. Mark Morgan. Basically what, according to newspaper articles, what brings down this whole operation Steve Raymond's you know, fake tour service that would liaise with Mark Morgan's operation, which was a brothel. This was all

brought down by a guy named John Cummings. And if you recall and you go back to my earliest tweets in the thread, John Cummings was the guy who back in like the late sixties early seventies, with Steve Raymond, was doing the Chiuahwan orphanages and the orphanages in San Crisville, Dallas, Cassas. So John Cummings, he was according to Steve Raymond and Steve Raymond's book is The Poison River. And I have a PDF of this if anybody wants it, and I can send it to you if you ever feel like

reading a really horrible book. But the person credited with bringing all of this down beyond a Howard Ruff's investigator was John Cummings, who became an informant for the Sacramento Police Department, and he basically told the Sacramento Police that Steve Raymond, Mark Morgan, and a lot of other people, many of them affiliated with NAMBLA, were running a really extensive child pornography and child prostitution network out of an

orphanage and tour service in Bangkok, Thailand. So John Cummings when he becomes an informant for the Sacramento PD, he also implicates, of all people, Arthur C. Clark, the science fiction author he worked with Staniel Kubrick on two thousand and one Space Odyssey. I had sort of generally heard allegations that he was supposed to have been a pedophile. I knew he lived in Sri Lanka, which is usually a warning sign for like a single man, but he

lived in Sri Lanka. John Cummings furnished the sacrament Of Police Department with an Affidavid saying that Arthur C. Clark was deeply involved in the ty brothel operations Steve Raymond and Mark Morgan, and that Arthur C. Clark was essentially like the point of contact for pedophiles who went to Southeast Asia. They wanted to get plugged into whatever network was out there, they would contact Arthur C. Clark. So I just found that the other day and it was crazy.

He admitted it, and he was like, what's so, what's so wrong with that? But yeah, he had to step away from his investiture ceremony with Prince Charles because he didn't want he didn't want it to look bad.

Jonathan Tampico had also been in the Bay Area. He comes from a very interesting family. Just another little Arthur C. Clark connection here. Tampico had been writing and exchanging letters with Arthur C.

was Joseph Tampico. Had my notes here. Joseph Tampico served at the Applied Physics Laboratory at Johns Hopkins, where he provided technical direct for development of all research and missile test equipment and the Terrier and Taylist programs, so those are like naval surface to air missiles. He was the

head of Advanced Development Group at hai Con Manufacturing. He became Vice president of Engineering of the Associated Missile Products corep APL which liaised closely with the Defense Department, and you had you know, in the CIA working directly with it as well. While he was there, he was a technical consultant to the Navy Bureau of Ordnance on tactical

missile test equipment. And interesting detail here is that, you know, while he was during World War Two time he actually worked for the Ordnance Core and during that time as a missile specialist, he probably would have been part of the Ordinance Core that was leasing with paper clip scientists. So Nazi paper clips scientists were actually first brought over by like trying to think of what it was called. I think it was like the rocket brand of the

research and development unit of the Ordnance Core. So there's probability that Jonathan Tampico's father, Joseph was involved with like Nazi paper clips scientists as well. Jonathan Tampico himself when he initially goes down for the first charges against him, which is you know, like abusing young boys. Is he was working at the Lawrence Livermore Laboratories with top secret clearance. He was a laser technologist and he worked on the Star Wars Ballistic Defense project.

for sure. But anything in this specifically in this realm, in the Raymond thread that you want to touch on, yeah.

it's really poor reading. It's virtually unreadable, but you will find all of the statements Neffi David's given by the children to the FBI, and they're pretty consistent with each other independently as to the abuse that occurred at the child development center. They continually mentioned something called a monkey game, and they say that they were afraid of the monkey game, and essentially it was abuse that was occurring and the adults had told them to call it the monkey game.

They also said that men in uniforms with guns were the ones who had been abusing them. And you know, each child prettyum which individually reported that they had been threatened with death or their family with death if they were to tell their parents or anybody else about the abuse. So you have all of these children independently being interviewed, all with pretty consistent stories to each other, all sightings sort of like ritualistic abuse and mentioning the same teachers

that had committed the abuse. They described the same people, and they pointed the same people out of lineups. So I just foind it pretty ridiculous that this would's miniga.

and selling him. And you know, Steve Raymond's response to that is, oh, he must have been confused because of the LSD and the LSD gave him false memories of the abuse which I did not commit.

and he I think he even arrested Steve Raymond. But he must have been aware of Steve Raymond's brother's case because in a speech or presentation he gives I believe in front of a Senate committee, he claims that you know, Nambla is involved with West Point and he also mentions Michael Keino as well. It's interesting to note that I believe Pamphlof also at another point said that Aquino is very like respectable man, a very good guy. So conflicting

conflicting statements from pamphle Off there. But I you know, I've been looking for a connection between a Quino and the Raymonds, and I haven't been able to find one strictly, but there is a sort of vague association between, you know, their locations. So Aquino was implicated in a daycare abuse scandal. It's lesser known in Okay Hie era in Four Bragg, so it was a little confusing to me at first.

daycare center. It was based in Fort Bragg, California. It's not a military base. It just sounds like one. But children at the Jubilation daycare center had made pretty credible accusations. Again,

a ritual abuse against the owners of the daycare. I believe their names were Barbara and Sharon or the children accuse the women of tying them up, committing animal sacrifices, drinking their blood, cutting them open with like jeweled knives, you know, wearing hooded robes, and several of the children reportedly positively identified Michael Akino as one of their abusers. And just for reference, Fort Bragg is right next to Yukaya and the Yukaya I believe he was the sheriff

at the time. Let me see, I have his name written down. But the Ukaya sheriff at the time says that within yu Kaya itself he knew of more than a handful of cases that he would classify as like a cult ritual abuse where children that he thought had just been you know, sexually abused by people like Steve Raymond, but they had actually described being in church like settings

with burning of candles in animal sacrifices. So it's possible that Michael Akino was in Yukayah at the same time that the Raymonds were.

Raymonds at all. But Martin's Swithin Bank was caught in Long Island for running a pretty massive child pornography operation and probably a prostitution network as well, judging by the fact people accidentally went to his door looking for like a seller of puppies, knocked on his door and a naked child answered the door, and neighbors of the house would see children just going to and fro the house at which Martin's within Bank was running the pornography operation.

So Martin Swithin Bank, he was a very very wealthy brit Actually, he started his career at Oxford and then he came to Harvard Business School for his graduate degree. He let me just pull up my notes. He uh, it's pretty interesting. He was a pretty extensive pornographer. He began his career as a photographer. He even worked for Life Magazine. He ended up working for something called uh Book Adventures Incorporated, which, according to Chickenhawk, Magazines was actually

like a Chicken Hawk publishing house itself. It posed as a legitimate publishing house being associated with Life magazine, but it basically catered to pedophiles who would put out sort of like erotica of children or the scantily clad children.

Canyon at this time. But interestingly, some of the Book Explorers Incorporated and Book Adventures Incorporated publications were found in Michael Jackson's never Land home when police executed a search warrant. Okay, when people we'll talk about, you know, Michael Jackson being associated with NAMBLA and you know types of like child sexual abuse material, it's because he has like pretty I guess for like chicken Hawks, what would be considered like iconic literature.

lot of these if you read Ie the Chickenhawk. But and I'm not surprised that use like book Explorers, Book Adventurers. It seems to be a going like you'll have all these companies that have like five different similar sounding names, but they're cutouts. They're not I mean, they're like sort of a real business, but not really like.

connection is Martin Swithin Bank. His brother, Charles Swithin Bank, was a really really famous glaci glaciologist. I think basically studying like polar ice caps and glaciers. That's what he did. And interestingly, this is like one of the most bizarre facets of what I've been looking at here. But there seems to be like a great interest of these people in geoscience specific quickly.

It's like a lot of people say it was Aliens. A lot of people say they encountered some sort of Nazi base over Antarctica because it was like like some big military operation Antarctica, and they believe they lost equipment and stuff. So it's just like what happened here, and it's just like, oh, research we lost some ships, don't worry, don't look here. It was It's just one of those

weird stories. A lot of people like to fill in the blanks with Aliens or Nazi Antarctica, although there is like something I'm willing.

geoscience department at the same time. But one of the guys who is arrested is part of the pedophile network with Jonathan Tampico, the Lawrence Livermore Laboratories, star Wars contractor and Steve Raymond and the whole child brothel situation and Thailand is a guy named Robert S. Turner. Robert S. Turner's dad was a guy named Mort Turner. Mort Turner knew Charles swydden Bank and they were part of the Antarctic in society.

work history. So according to his obituary, he suddenly and unexpectedly became involved with the Argentinian invasions of South Georgia and the Falkland Islands by providing specialists vice to the British government. He specialized in reconnaissance surveys from satellite imagery.

I have no idea. Yeah, it's weird, very yeah, very bizarre, but yeah, a lot a lot of these people end up in geoscience for some reason. Robert S. Turner, whose dad Mort was part of this Antarctic in society with Charles Fittenbank and actually worked with him on several projects, was a geoscience professor himself. I believe he worked in data analytics for Berkeley Laboratories and he taught geoscience as well. Interestingly, one of the Raymond's brothers, Laura and Raymond, also worked

as a professor in North Carolina of geoscience. So an inexplicable attraction they feel to this field of study.

You heard all the weird stuff like genetic things he funded, or astronomy or like he was in so many different weird, odd things that you really only do when you just have so much money to blow you don't know what to use it on. You're like, I'm gonna do weird

ship and really odd things I'm interested in. Yeah, exactly, all right, let's bring it to the middle here over at a these Francis Sheldon, if I might be recalling this incorrectly, it was Sheldon was the book that essentially the the all of the I don't know if you've read Eye of the Chicken Out, Have you read it? Okay? You know how like starts it kind of like starts and ends in the same way, like kind of it comes as in a full circle. And I forget if it's if it was Sheldon that it circled back on

like if that, because that's the one. I believe it's making the cases some sort of he's heavily implying as some sort of informant. It seems like he's kind of throughout this book kind of heavily implying there are there are strings being pulled by uh, you know, people in like seats of power. That is what he's kind of implying with that. I don'tber tho Sheldon or not. Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else. I forget. There's so many names, it's hard to it.

like boy Lover Rags. I think Hermes was one of them, and another one was Better Life Monthly, which was also called Boy Lover Monthly. But I do think that he ended up like escaping to the Netherlands, and before he leaves Michigan, he establishes a trust where who comes to be the beneficiary of his interviews trust but Edward Brongersma, who was a Dutch congressman, notorious propagate and unrepentant pedophile.

lose any assets or anything. I mean, he technically lost assets because it went to somebody else, but it didn't get taken. So I'm assuming that I would assume that he later was able to talk to this Bronker's mug guy and still probably essentially was kind of in a puppet way controlling his assets. I would assume.

very few other people it could possibly be. But he says, in nineteen eighty four, I hosted a cocktail party at my home on Russian Hill for a former member of the Dutch Parliament who had authored a bill that legalized gay sex in the Netherlands, in whom I had met a few years earlier in Amsterdam. The legislator had come to San Francisco to speak for the abolition of laws that prescribe sexual activity. So that has to have been

Edward Brongersma, and I did check. Edward Brongersma did do a lecture at Stanford University in nineteen eighty four, the exact year that Steve Raymond is alleging that this Dutch congressman comes and visits his house. So it's a strong likelihood that it was Edward Brongersma that Steve Raymond is hanging out with.

or the Bay Area. He was actually allowed to go back to Thailand and his book The Poison River, which keep in mind, is supposed to be his vindication of himself. He's saying, like, I'm innocent, and you know, John Cummings and all these other people conspired against me. Never mind about how I was hanging out with all of these like known pedophiles and I was a member of Nambled myself. Forget all of that, but this is my vindication. I

didn't actually do any of these things. His book, The Poison River is published by Acolyte Press, which was run by Francis Sheldon and published like or pedophile erotica. And it gets even more disturbing because the organization that provides the ForWord for this book is Amnesty International, saying talking about how Steve Raymond was so wrongfully victimized in Thai prisons. Very disturbing. And I do have my notes here. You'll notice. I'll send you a picture of the cover of this book,

but it has the most bizarre cover art. It's like, if you could imagine what like a pedophiles book cover would look like, it would it would be this. Let me just pull it up. Yeah. So it's published by Acolyte Press and the guy who does the cover art is Jim Surine. Jim Surine is based in Michigan. He lived in Detroit and he was part of General Motors from the sixties to the eighties and he was in a relatively high position. I don't think he was an executive,

but he was something close to that. Well, why do we have a guy who was part of General Motors in a relatively high level position in Detroit?

and cover up each other's crimes. I believe that, if I recall correctly, I believe this one kind of weaves a lot into the North Fox. Obviously we're even just now we're within one or two away from North Fox, you know, directly connected, but these were kind of you know, tied into it. So a lot of general motors people point being as this was part of the network. So

I mean, here we are at General Motors. It is weird how just that one book there ties in so many different parts brings to Francis Sheldon's uh, you know Alcolyte Press, you know, so I know it's just interesting. But yeah, Well, is there any any final thoughts you have on any any specific things you want to hone in on that you feel like we either missed or should have it, should have oed in on anything along those lines, Just final thoughts generally.

Grot had been incarcerated before he fled to Thailand. He had been incarcerated because he was part of a raid on a Wareham, Massachusetts cottage that had been, according to the press multiple articles, a nambla safe house and like operations base. I saw in several articles it was called a safe house, and then another few it was called

like the base of operations for Nambla. So you know, either it's a safe house or it is literally where they're running all these child pornography operations out of because the police also sees south of pictures of children and explicit pictures with adults and them as well. And David grow is arrested as part of that operation and then flees to Thailand where he works for Mark Morgan's orphanage. But David Grote also has you know, a rather interesting

arrest history. When this Warem cottage is rated by the police, they find a picture of what looks like Eton Pates. I'm not sure if you're familiar at all with the eton Pates case. So he was one of like the originally like most famous like child abductions. He was never found. He disappeared in the eighties.

he disappeared. He had abducted him with plans of molesting him. This guy has like a windfall of ten thousand dollars as soon as like eton Pace disappears and he goes to travel in the Middle East in Europe. I know that Maury Terry and Ed Sanders sort of corresponded, thinking that they thought that the Eton pat subduction had something to do with like pedophiles associated with the processed Church

of the Final Judgment. And then you have David grow at this Wareham cottage, which is either the headquarters for NAMBLA or an important safehouse for NAMBLA, having a calendar called a Boy with the Boyhood calendar, where there was a boy of the month and the boy looked almost exactly like eton Pates. And it's pretty interesting how that was handled. Basically, the FBI said, Namble, is this eton Pats. Namble said, oh, no, of course, not this other boy

who we actually can't locate right now. But Russa shurt it is not Euton Pates and the FAU I said, okay, it's not Eton Pates.

Big Brothers chapter of Mendocino County. There's actually some pretty interesting stuff on that that I just found today. But I was murdered in like twenty ten by a child who claim not by a child, but by a man who claimed he had been abused as a child by

the man he murdered. In the Mendocino County Big Brothers at the time that Mark Raymond would have been there, So it was definite if not it if not like a legitimate, you know, organization on its face, Like there are Big Brothers chapters that aren't just like fronts for pedophiles. This one, which was set up by Mark Raymond, seems

to have been definitely participating in things like that. I mean, if we were to assume that Mark Raymond was a suspect, not assume, but we know that Mark Raymond was a suspect in the West Point Child Development Center case, and he is associating with John Cummings and all of these people who are you know, known pedophiles and NAMBLO members. Wouldn't be surprised if these abusive activities also happened at the Mendocino County Big Brothers and there's definitely evidence that

it was happening at the time. I'm just with somebody else.

information is power. But yeah, if you go letting my audience know that, that'd be great and we can go and get out of here.

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