O3 and the Next Leap in Reasoning with OpenAI’s Eric Mitchell and Brandon McKinzie
May 01, 2025•39 min•Season 1Ep. 113
Episode description
This week on No Priors, Elad and Sarah sit down with Eric Mitchell and Brandon McKinzie, two of the minds behind OpenAI’s O3 model. They discuss what makes O3 unique, including its focus on reasoning, the role of reinforcement learning, and how tool use enables more powerful interactions. The conversation explores the unification of model capabilities, what the next generation of human-AI interfaces could look like, and how models will continue to advance in the years ahead.
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Show Notes:
0:00 What is o3?
3:21 Reinforcement learning in o3
4:44 Unification of models
8:56 Why tool use helps test time scaling
11:10 Deep research
16:00 Future ways to interact with models
22:03 General purpose vs specialized models
25:30 Simulating AI interacting with the world
29:36 How will models advance?
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