¶ RNC Convention Recap and Analysis
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Yes , and in a year when things are absolutely crazy , this RNC did not disappoint it . There was a lot of action . There still is going to be a lot of action Right Because of what is likely to unfold here over the next two or three days , with President Biden and then President Trump taking to the stage tonight at the RNC Really interesting .
Yeah , super interesting . It was a different kind of speech . I think we have been kind of everything that we've been reading throughout the day was , you know , prefacing that it was going to be kind of a different speech . We didn't really know what to expect .
Being told the first , you know , he got to tell his version of events that he that took place last Saturday with the assassination attempt and that was .
It was pretty fascinating it is , and we'll have clips of it and we'll talk about that in a second . Really , the speech did break down , I think , into two basic parts . One is the recounting of what happened , which was , I think , pretty gripping , quite frankly , and not a way that we usually see Donald Trump .
And then , beyond that , then it got back into you know , you kind of started to move back into what Trump likes to do and it was not as sharp edged , I think , as you've seen past .
There's no question .
No way from him it was definitely different .
Definitely different tone and we'll get into that . But Mike Garofalo from Victory News is joining us live as part of this . Well , not really . By the time you see this podcast , I guess it won't be live . But Mike is live to us right now as he's in on the audio board . Mike , how are you ?
I'm doing fantastic . I actually just walked out of the forum there , the Fiserv forum , and I can only say one thing it was electrifying .
Yeah , yeah , tell us a little bit about . Let's just give you a quick broad picture of what what this event was like . You've been and you're very familiar with these conventions . You know what they're all about . Compare what you saw in Milwaukee to past conventions .
You know , the last one I went to was was a while ago , it was 1996 . I went to San Diego at the Republican National Convention . I also went to the Democrat that year too , in Chicago , but Bob Dole was the candidate back then , you know , obviously a solid politician , well-liked by many in the party , but not somebody that was going to win the presidency .
Here you've got Donald Trump , and this Donald Trump is a guy that kind of . You know . He made his name doing real estate and then he was the apprentice . People loved him from both sides of the aisle and then when he went into politics , you know Democrats started hating the guy .
But he's got this I don't want to say cult following , but he's got an incredible following and he's got loyal , loyal Republicans that will really do anything for him . And so after he gets shot , you know , in Pennsylvania at a rally , I mean that just took everything to a different level .
And I would say there's one thing that I was thinking about today , and I'll stop real quick . You know we're used to seeing Donald Trump speak , and recently we've watched him listen , because he's listened to these speeches , so he looks a little bit more mellow , and I was thinking about why is that ? Is it because he got shot ?
Maybe , but it's also because we never watch him listen .
Yeah , and Mike , it did . He does appear different , there's no doubt . I think we're going to show examples of that here in a second and how things are completely different . But also , mike , you know , if you remember , back 2016 , that convention was not a gimme for Trump .
There were a lot of people Ted Cruz , mike Lee that went down onto the floor of the convention and tried to take it away from Trump . And then , in 2020 , you had the COVID convention . So , realistically , this is the first convention that we've seen where Donald Trump has totally taken over the party .
There is not some strange pandemic , there is not some insurrection from inside the party to try to get him out . So this was everybody , I think , for the first time , pulling in the same direction .
I think for the first time pulling in the same direction . And it was run very well . As a reporter on the scene , super impressed by how everything went and you know and that is in part because Donald Trump took over the party obviously you know Watley and his daughter in law , you know running the RNC and they clearly are doing it .
As a reporter , I think they're doing a solid job .
Yeah , it was quite a production . Just seeing how everything kind of came together over the last couple of nights it's , but you can tell it's quite a production and it really does , at least even here . You know , when we're watching it just on TV , it looks and feels incredibly different than 2016 . It's a different Trump .
I mean , realistically , I think you still had a lot of people in 2016 at the convention , like Mark was saying that even people at home that weren't as fired up about Trump .
I feel like that that tide has really shifted this time and I don't know if it's just the country's getting more behind him because of what happened last Saturday or just , in general , their burnout on Biden , but I mean , I'm assuming everywhere you're going over these last couple of days , everybody's just fired up for the moment when he's coming out to talk .
Is that , is that a real ? Is that really what happened ?
Oh yeah , I mean totally fired up , I mean pumped up , and you know I was in the building for all week really and he came out a couple of times to watch , to listen , but he also showed up on the stage a couple of times and you could just feel the energy in that building when they said Donald Trump's in the building somewhere .
You could just get that sense . Now think back to four years ago or to eight years ago , really , 2016 . You know Donald Trump elbowed his way to the top , in my opinion . You know you had all these other candidates but but you know he figured out a way to to chastise them and , in some cases , to insult them .
He elbowed his way to the top and people were not expecting him to win . Remember the polls that were telling us Hillary Clinton was going to win , and then when he won , it was almost like the surprise of the century going to win . And then when he won , it was almost like the surprise of the century .
Then the guy had an incredible four years in terms of accomplishing things , although he was under attack relentlessly , as we know .
Right . So all right , mike , let's go through some of this . I want to go through his speech . I want to go through some of what happened here and then , once we get through kind of his speech , I'll get your broad take and then we'll let you go .
I don't want to leave you on the phone all night there and and , uh , you know , block up every cell tower and and the greater Wisconsin area , uh , but let's , let's start with . I want to start here and able start with clip one here in just a second , but it's it's . It's Trump describing really how close he came to death here .
The first about eight minutes of the speech . That's what he did , and to me that was by far the the most compelling thing . And so I I want to , I want to start with this and we'll get a little feel for it , mike , and then we'll get your reaction to it .
So here's trump , as he started to lead things off , talking about what happened when he was on the stage in pennsy Saturday afternoon .
The amazing thing is that prior to the shot , if I had not moved my head at that very last instant , the assassin's bullet would have perfectly hit its mark and I would not be here tonight . We would not be together . The most incredible aspect of what took place on that terrible evening in the fading sun was actually seen later .
In almost all cases , as you probably know , and when even a single bullet is fired just a single bullet and we had many bullets that were being fired Crowds run for the exits or stampede , but not in this case . It was very unusual .
Okay , so she talks a little there about . You know kind of just how close he was in this , mike , when you , when you , listen to this , it was compelling to listen to him talk about it it really was .
Oh yeah , I mean , hearing him tell the story obviously gave a different perspective . You know , when he says what he says , it hit home and I think it resonated with people . You know , I don't know how to describe it , except that people in there you could hear a pin drop at one point because they wanted to hear every word that he said about the situation .
You know , we even said we even said , like when they were , when he was getting the crowd pretty riled up , and this is a crowd that seems to like to chant everybody's name that comes on stage , I mean , everybody's getting their own chance from what we're watching back here on TV , and I , me and Mark are like , ok , ok , just stop chanting , just stop chanting
. Because we really were at a point , in this very serious tone , of Trump telling his story of what happened , and it was just like you know , I just wanted to listen to it , to his tale of it .
So Right , and this was one of those unique speeches right to his tale of it , right and this was one of those unique speeches , right that because of what happened , your common applause lines in a convention speech didn't really apply . They didn't really apply because you did .
You wanted to listen to the story and it was one of those deals where it was like that movie Signs where they get closer and closer to the TV and are like shh , shh , yeah , exactly Because you just wanted to hear him retell the story . So this got pretty spiritual , especially for Trump , who is not particularly a spiritual guy .
So I want to play that clip here and let you listen to what he said and how this was really powerful to me , because one of the things he said was you know , everybody , you know he said I shouldn't be here during this quote . This is what you're going to hear . And then everybody says chants back to him yes , you , yes , you should , yes , you should .
And then he goes no , no , I shouldn't . And it was really interesting . So take a listen to this . It was very raw and for Trump , it definitely hit a spiritual note . It definitely hit a spiritual note .
I'm not supposed to be here tonight .
Not supposed to be here Crowd there chanting yes you are yes , you are yes , you are yes , you are yes , you are yes you are , thank you , but I'm not .
And I'll tell you , I stand before you in this arena only by the grace of almighty God . In watching the reports over the last few days , many people say it was a providential .
You know , here's the thing about that . I know this is delicate territory , because when you're talking about spiritual intervention , it can be the kind of thing where people roll their eyes . It can be the kind of thing that if it isn't handled the right way meaning if it doesn't come from your heart it can end up looking very , very manipulative .
And I don't think it did with him .
Yeah , that's kind of .
What I was curious to see is how authentic was his testimony basically going to be when it came to what he felt like God was putting him here to do and why God potentially saved his life , which we believe without question , god saved his life I mean , I don't anybody that when their life is saved , I know that there's divine intervention in that and doesn't
like we said on an earlier show , it doesn't take away from the pain of the loss of those that did .
You know the gentleman that did die , and so and I appreciated the fact that not only did Trump give credit where credit was due , with God saving him , but he also really took a moment , several moments , to talk about the victim who'd passed , as well as the other two who were severely injured , and I just think you know that's a moment in our history that we
will not soon forget . You know that's a moment in our history that we will not soon forget . Mike , what's your thoughts on where you see him kind of talking more and more freely about divine intervention in God ?
He's doing that , without question .
Now , I interviewed earlier today Senator Bill Hagerty of Tennessee and he told me that he spoke to Donald Trump on Sunday and that Donald Trump let him know that he was going to be tearing up the speech that he had written to give tonight and doing something completely different , which is why you heard the story , which is why you heard talk about God , which is
you know why you essentially heard , I think , in many ways , a more unifying message , and I interviewed lots of people over the last couple of days here , many of them delegates , and they want that's what they wanted to hear they wanted a unifying message from Donald Trump .
Now , the only thing I can say and this is not about Trump at all If you remember , three and a half years ago , joe Biden's message was he was calling for unifying the country as well , and look at where that got us .
Right , exactly . Again , though , going back to that , I do feel like the presence of this particular convention . It was very clear that they was very unified , even as a party
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. I have never seen this kind of come togetherness as a party on a whole in several years , maybe since Bush , maybe since , maybe since Bush . You know , it was kind of where I kind of drawn , I drew from , but yeah , I think that's the sense .
Yeah , that's the sense people were telling me I was . You know , that was one of the questions . I asked them how , what do you think of this convention ? And they're like there's something special about this convention .
Everybody's coming together , everybody's in the same , moving in the same direction , under the same 10 , and that you know and you know why I interviewed , uh , asia hutchinson , uh , the other day really he is speaking of coming together or not coming together . Yeah , I do know so what was his presidential candidate ?
yeah yeah , and and he , he , I was like where's he gonna go , is he gonna ? And he , he brought up trump getting shot and he brought up what's gonna . Let's see how god has changed him . So he was very interested to hear trump's message tonight as well got it , okay , all right .
So , mike , we'll , we'll do , uh , one more for you before we get your kind of closing comments . Uh , you , you mentioned that the speech had more of a unity feel , at least for Trump .
You have to grade this on a curve too , because Trump isn't known for being magnanimous , really , in reaching out , but he's going to have to because I think most likely he's going to face a different opponent than he faces tonight . Right , right , now it's still Biden , right he ?
did say not to interrupt you , but he did say like I am running . I thought one of his best lines was I'm not running for half of the country , I'm running for the whole of the country , Because , basically , what's the point If I'm just going to sit here and keep the divide going ? I think that's a very different message than what we heard in 2016 .
And definitely different than what we heard in 2020 .
Right , right , no , yeah , yeah , there's no question . It's changed in this comment . That we're about to play makes evidence of that . So , Ava , let's go to clip four .
We will not break , we will not bend , we will not back down and I will never stop fighting for you , your family and our magnificent country , and everything I have to give , with all of the energy and fight in my heart and soul . I pledge to our nation tonight . Thank you very much . I pledge that to our nation .
I'm going to turn our nation around and we're going to do it very quickly , thank you you . This election should be about the issues facing our country and how to make America successful , safe , free and great again . In an age when our politics too often divide us , now is the time to remember that we are all fellow citizens . We are one nation under God .
Mm , hmm .
So so there it is . So , mike , we'll get you , get you out of here on on this . You could see that kind of unity message here . But , as we've said , while Trump had the stage and while he has really enjoyed a two or three week run here since the debate , that is for the history books , quite frankly , there's no other way around that .
History books , quite frankly , there's no other way around that . Likely , things are going to significantly change for him in this whole race coming up , as we're going to get into , after we let you go , that Biden is likely not going to be the candidate anymore . So was there any feel for that possibility in the room in Milwaukee ?
Do they understand that this race is far from over ? In the thought process and I know when you get into something like we've just watched , there's a certain high for whatever political party enjoys it , but then there is still the reality that this race is far from over . Is there an understanding there of that ?
I think so . I think people are more than anything . They're just circling the wagons around Donald Trump right now and they all know the question mark on the other side of the aisle . They everybody was reading their phones today . Joe Biden's going to drop out this weekend . That's what people are reporting , you know . So they , they know .
And then the big question is is it going to be Kamala ? Probably you know who knows who's it going to be Kamala . Probably you know who knows who's it going to be .
So , but I will say this I felt like Donald Trump was subdued tonight and I felt like it , but not in a bad way necessarily , maybe in a peaceful way , because I firmly believe he knows he's been given a second chance at life and he is thanking God for that every day , and I believe that has changed his heart .
Yeah , I do too , and I'm glad to hear you say that too , Mike , because obviously that's our hope for him as well , and I do think you know people are watching him closer than ever and it was nice to see , really .
I mean , he did that second half of his speech really did get back more into policy and and more of kind of an old Trump , but still not a calloused smart Alec Trump , which is what he can normally be , and that can be very off-putting .
And I think , given what we've all been through lately , it's nice and refreshing to see just a , you know , a more of a , just a I don't know what you want to call it .
We will not break , we will not bend Just kind of facts and figures of policy .
Yeah , yeah , kind of leaving out the the attack mode and still being strong , but also being more respectful . I think that's the word I was trying to think . Well , in .
The thing I think sometimes we forget about this is the bar for him in this in this weird way , because he's compared to Biden is unbelievably low .
So so if he can come out and just make a steady case for his own policies , I think sometimes you feel like you have to amp up what you say , constantly amp up in a campaign and I don't think he has to do that anymore , quite frankly , I think , if you just make his case .
So , mike , thanks very much , we'll let you go and thanks for checking in with us , and of course , we'll be back in touch with you soon when you get back to Texas and get back
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to Victory News . Are you on tomorrow too , by the way ? Are they giving you a day off ?
No , it's a travel day , so no .
Okay , good job . You deserve that day off , Mike . By the way , Mike , have you played any pickle ball since you were in town last weekend ?
You know I don't want to beat anybody else .
No , Mike , be honest , be honest , Mike , what happened ? My body is still my body is still sore from from the whooping that you gave me . All right , that's it . It was tough . It was tough pickleball game . All right , my friend , good to talk to you . Thanks for checking in take care okay thanks mike okay .
So a couple things here , uh , that we want to get to . I do want to get one new mexico clip out of this speech tonight , uh , that trump talked about , and that is the necessity to invest in America's energy infrastructure . New Mexico is the second largest oil and gas state in the country .
Nobody does it cleaner and better than we do , and when you're looking at what policies are necessary to continue to drive New Mexico's economy , energy is at the center of that , and Trump talked about it .
Sustaining inflation crisis immediately bring down interest rates and lower the cost of that . And Trump talked about it Sustaining inflation crisis immediately bring down interest rates and lower the cost of energy . We will drill , baby drill .
So there you go , and that is our little New Mexico nod .
And he also said listen , how are we going to climb out of this economy situation ? How are we going to lower inflation , make food prices lower ? How are we going to climb out of this economy situation ? How are we going to lower inflation , make food prices lower ? How are we going to get gas prices lower , rent lower , mortgages rates lower ?
It all is tied to our energy and I don't know . I think it's just so interesting that , like , really , his philosophy has not changed so much , even from 2020 . Right , and somehow , like what we said , people , voters said that that's not what we wanted in 2020 .
But now they've seen the light , because they see how bad the failure has been under the Biden administration when they tried to take out all of the plans that that Trump put in place , and so now there's more of a unified spirit of saying this hasn't been working . Let's get back to what he was really putting out , putting forth before .
Let's get back to what he was really putting forth before , and a lot of this stuff is apolitical in the respect that if you're a low-income or middle-income family , energy prices are killing you . I mean I don't care what political party you're in , it's devastating .
So when you have a president , come in and say , okay , here's what we're going to do to bring down energy prices . We're going to go after inflation . We're going to go after the debt , because it could be very helpful .
In going after the debt , american energy could do a lot to take on the debt , and there's a bunch of different policy points on that that you can talk about .
And do you add some sort of tax in as well , on our energy to be able to not necessarily that Americans will pay , that we pay to others or that others would pay to us to bring down the debt , things like that . So a lot of things can happen through energy . So we'll wait and see what happens .
Well , I just think that the shift is turning a little bit , because those conversations were had in the midterms in 2022 , and they didn't seem to resonate as much with people as they are now , and I just think it's interesting that for me , listening to that , I'm like yeah , we've been saying this , I feel like for a long time .
Right , right .
And I feel like so maybe people are just slowly kind of coming around to it because they're sick of everything being so dang expensive .
There was a , there was a quote in that story or , excuse me , in the speech tonight which was the average American family now paying up to $28,000 more a year to to live the way they did before .
And I think he said 57 , 57% higher in grocery bills . I think that's the number in there , right .
Yeah , and so you start to and you let that compound over a couple of years and it's devastating , right ? I mean that that sort of thing is brutal . All right , just a few other quick things . Just one tone thing I wanted to touch on and show you a little bit yes , we , you go back and see Trump .
When he first came in on Monday night and walked into into the RNC for the first night , I think you could see that expression , that things were a bit different and you can see his expression was interesting because I think he got emotional .
I really do .
I think you'd start to pay . You could see it right there . I think he started , you know , and so nobody can know what you go through in a situation like that . But it's interesting too , because it wasn't just this sort of RNC deal .
I don't know if you've seen one of the new ads out from Trump Okay , yeah , yeah From back the eighties , right , exactly , and , and , but the ad is like 39 seconds , so I don't think it's a TV ad per se , right ?
Okay .
I don't think so because 39 seconds long . I'm like who the heck runs a TV ? A 39 second ad . Right .
But I do think it's a digital ad and I want to play it for you because I think it shows something here and it shows that this campaign , now the Trump campaign and they're going to need to do this because they still have a very , very close fight all the way till election day .
Even though we don't know who the other candidates likely to be , they're going to need every pitch they have . They used to just have a 95 mile an hour fastball . That was all they had .
They had a 95 mile an hour fastball and if you didn't like it , too bad , but now you're starting to see breaking balls and sliders and different pitches from the Trump campaign . This is one of their latest ads and this is a curveball .
If I give you one message to hold in your hearts today , it's this Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation . Relish the opportunity to be an outsider , because it's the outsiders who change the world and who make a real and lasting difference .
The more that a broken system tells you that you're wrong , the more certain you should be that you must keep pushing ahead . You must keep pushing forward .
So , that's really good
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Okay . So what's your takeaway from that ? When you see that , what do you , what do you think I , you look , I kind of see a little bit of fun loving Trump there , more like willing to kind of be like cutting up a little bit , letting somebody rub his hair , hugging an American flag right . Kind of more of a jovial side of him versus just a stick it .
You know like I want to know .
The truth is , I was watching that , I just listened to it . I you know , and for those of you on YouTube , you will see , and we played the ad . For those of you just listening , you heard it right . To me , his words were more important than even what I saw on the screen .
Yeah , more of a motivational kind of speech and so that's what I mean , like throwing in those sorts of things and throwing in guests during the RNC that you never expect to see .
You know , going through things like that , showing different pitches to people , I think is helpful , but again , this is still again one of those races that's going to be so close that I think we're kidding ourselves , no matter what side of the political aisle you're on . If you think this is going to be a blowout , I don't think it is .
I don't either , and I guess maybe just because I've learned from the past that it's just . You know , we still have a long ways to go , quite frankly . I know it's the end of we're ending July here , but we still have a couple of solid three months of just ads going after each other , whoever , Well , yeah , but you're going to have a whole new kid .
You're going to stand up a presidential candidate with three and a half months left , and that's crazy and we're just talking , like we already know , like it really is that Biden's out , but it is just our buddy .
you know , our political analyst out there , jeff Glassburner , is like he is holding the line . He is like Biden is not . I checked with him today . Have you changed your mind , jeff ? Have you changed your mind ? Nope , he's still a diehard . He believes that Biden is in it , he's absolutely done .
There's no way he's going going to last . No , you're right , you're right , so we'll get to that . So , let's , let's go through a few things pretty quickly here and um . So one interesting thing here , and I want to get into the investigation into the shooting .
We told you on the last episode the single worst thing the secret service could do was high details , create this veil of secrecy .
Not bring in the American people , not bring in elected officials who deserve to know , and keep it from people , because it will allow not only for conspiracy theorists to go crazy , it will also continue to erode trust in government at a time when government can't afford it , and it's exactly what we're seeing .
The sound we're going to play you from the head of the Secret Service is ridiculous . Right , we'll get to that , but there was an animation on Twitter that I want you to look at because it's unbelievable , and what it shows is the bullets that went through , how close they came to Trump and his head is kind of part of this .
Now , for those of you who are listening to this , you should go onto Twitter and look for it . It's an animation that shows Trump's exact words , his exact head angle , and then what you see is the first bullet that goes through . Had his head been stayed at the same angle , he would have had his head blown off ?
Yeah , he would have been done .
No doubt . Instead he turned slightly and then one grazed him , and then the second grazed him , and then a grazed him , and then the second grazed him , and then a third missed him . So again , if it happened right there he'd be dead .
So he gets a little grazed there potentially , and then definitely gets grazed there the second one right , and then the third one misses him by probably a couple inches yeah , it's pretty powerful when you see it in that way and see how close actually close it was um and how different it could have been , and that was a
pretty powerful statement I think he said tonight just at the RNC is , I think , what's happening to him . I think the first time when he was kind of walking out and he's pretty subdued and I'm sorry like any if I was standing there and Lee Greenwald Lee Greenwood is singing God bless the USA , I'm gone too . You know , like he , he's a pretty powerful singer .
That song gets everybody kind of emotional . But then you see a man who almost was killed while trying to run for office and it is very impactful . I think he still was dealing . I just I mean I'm obviously not a doctor but I feel like he had a little shock still , like he has to have had . This whole past week has to just been full of shock of what .
What matters to me , what do I care about when you get a second chance on anything ? I mean some of us have had pretty bad car wrecks and it kind of changes your perspective .
Absolutely .
People aren't shooting at us . And so when somebody is really out there trying to purposely in your life and you survive , that you are a changed person and I think that's the emotion that you see coming out of him on that first night and and anyway so , yeah , no , and so with , with , with .
How close that is right ? You see those bullets in that animation . And then now , of course , kim Cheadle , who runs the you know , the secret service has to answer for this .
And I'm surprised she hasn't stepped down this week Like I thought she would resign .
No , this is the problem here . This is the problem that I talk about the death of expertise and the death of accountability . It's gone , so people like Kim Cheeto will go out there and float something up the flagpole . That is absolutely ridiculous , that I don't care who you are , you need to know what happened here and we deserve to know .
Has to do with the pitch of the roof .
Should that roof have been secure period ?
That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point , and so you know there's a safety factor that would be considered there , that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof , and so you know the decision was made to secure the building from inside . Yeah , that's just ridiculous .
Secure from inside .
Ludicrous the pitch of the roof , obviously . That's just ridiculous . Secure it from inside Ludicrous . The pitch of the roof obviously is not a factor . The guys , the snipers on other roofs were on more pitch than this . Not only that , but her saying we decided to secure it from the inside . Yeah , oh , okay . So what do you do on the outside ?
Right , you let some kid wander around and then eventually climb up on the roof . It's so bad and insulting to listen to her .
I mean I thought it was . I mean I don't know , I can't believe she's a speaking to anybody about any of this .
And number two , like how she hasn't stepped down the other video we don't have this in here , but I'm sure a lot of you have seen it because it's gone pretty viral is that the video that the gentleman was filming from the way back when Trump was talking , and there is like a mom , you know a mom that sees the shooter on the roof and she is screaming as
loud as she can . There is a guy on the roof with a gun and she is screaming . She's not worried . I was worried watching it , that he was going to turn around and shoot her . I'm like , ok , so the mothers of the world , they can see this sniper , but Kim , you can't get your team in line to take that guy out ? Like , give me a .
I mean , I just don't believe . I do not believe it , by the way , I don't believe it . Oh well , no , no , look , they're all over the place .
Okay . So that's the problem we have . So remember , kim Cheadle has not been elected to anything . Kim Cheadle is a bureaucrat . She runs a division of the government that doesn't feel like they have to answer to anybody . So US senators at the RNC saw her . She was there . So they track her down and they say we need some answers .
Now I'll play a little bit of this . I'm not going to play a ton because it's kind of hard to understand , but I want you to get a little flavor of what happens when Marsha Blackburn and a couple other senators get her cornered and they want some answers from her . Remember , your elected officials are accountable .
They can get voted out , right , but Kim Cheeto , she can't . She gets her appointment and Joe Biden is keeping her there for whatever reason . So just listen to this , okay , okay . So here's what happens right there .
So Marsha Blackburn's given her the business saying what is going on here , and then her response is this is not the forum , I'm not going to talk to you about this here , and so then she ends up leaving and basically running away from them .
And this is what I mean , and this is what is so dangerous about these situations , and it is because we have elected officials looking for answers they're accountable . We have bureaucrats not giving them . They're accountable . We have bureaucrats not giving them . They're unaccountable . So what do we do with this ? Because we , as people , don't get the answer .
And the more that she drags this on and says ridiculous things like the roof was too pitched , I couldn't have one of our snipers up there , I couldn't have it secured , it makes you feel like you probably should not be in this position . You probably don't deserve to be in this position . And then that leads the whole question of do we have ?
Are we sending our best to positions that really make a difference and matter in this country ? And she , I mean I hate to say it because I mean I'm all pro women , 100% , but this has nothing to do with being a woman . I know but that's what I'm saying the fact that she's not coming out with strong answers on this .
But this is on Biden . Why is he not holding her accountable ?
I get it , but she's not even holding herself accountable .
Well no , why would she so it ?
makes her look weaker than anything you can possibly imagine . That's what I'm saying , and I'm saying that it makes people question do you have the right person in the job to start with ?
And my answer obviously looking at this is not . No , I agree . Who was fired for anything ?
Nothing's gone off the rails . Nobody is fired , nobody fired for Afghanistan .
Nobody fired for what's happened with inflation . Nobody fired for what's happened with the border . Nobody ever gets fired with these guys , so it doesn't matter . There's no accountability , and that's what's that's .
I can't stand it because you have government that ends up being so much more powerful than the people who that government is supposed to serve , and we're upside down right now and if we don't fix it and we don't fix it quickly we're going to continue to lose the ability in this country to chart our own course .
That scares me more than anything . Well , let's look at the CBS News poll . It was asked . Most Americans realize , you know ? Do they realize that the Secret Service kind of dropped the ball ? 75% said that they could have done more and 25% which still just blows my mind , they even got this high . 25% said they did all they could .
I think they did all they could , were the ones that bandwagoned around Trump right after the shooting and went running right to his aid and then we still don't know the situation on it . Did this ? Was the sniper told to hold back and not take that guy down ?
we don't know any of it we don't know any of that .
And again , that's where all you see all the conspiracy theories . Oh , there's a second shooter , and there's this , and there's that I'm just like .
I don't buy that at all this we did .
We don't learn anything from jfk like get the information out there now well , and be responsible about it yeah , I , I agree , and the thing is like the second shooter thing to me is not serious .
But what is serious is they talk about where some of the information is on this shooter , that he had some other accounts and things like that , but they can't get it to us ? Well , it depends . Some of them are overseas , so they're trying to figure some of this stuff out . So who knows on that ?
So we'll see , scared about the way this is playing out though .
I'm still like having a 20 year old climb up a building on a white roof and nobody see the guy except for the moms in the back saying this is off , this is off , and screaming as loud as they possibly can . No , I know it's , it's higher that woman to be in charge of the secret service .
How about that ?
Cause she's on it . Whoever that woman was in the video , she's on it .
She's on it . She's watching like a hawk . I want that woman to be in charge of it . If I have any detail for anything , that's the woman I'm going to hire .
Right , oh , there's no doubt , yeah , no , no question , okay . So all right , let's get to Biden real quickly here before we wrap up . It's late at night and we want to get going here , but more and more throughout the day on Thursday there's talk people that are more willing to step over that line than others .
¶ Biden's Potential Nomination Reversal
Now , mark Halperin used to be a real big time insider right In the political world , stepped in it a little bit , got canceled and is now on his way back . So he has come out and he's he's laying it out there a little bit . He said on Thursday that this is completely over for Biden . Listen to this .
This is happening all of a sudden . Everyone said it would happen gradually and then all at once , and that's what's happening . According to my sources , president Biden has agreed to step down as a Democratic nominee . It will happen as early as this weekend . A speech has been drafted for him . He will continue on as president , is his intention .
He also will not , I'm told , endorse Vice President Harris as his successor . They're hoping that he will endorse an open process in which the convention will be open to Vice President Harris and a few other candidates in Chicago to pick the Republican , the Democrat nominee for president .
Okay , Christy , is there something you would like to say about ?
this . Well , I would like to say , you know , I don't know how trustworthy Mark Halperin is , like how much intel he actually still has and how much he still just wants to make a name for himself kind of rebuild himself and really be the guy that's at the forefront of all this .
I don't I mean , I'm not saying that what he's saying couldn't happen because , of course , you and I have been on the page since October that Biden's not going to be the candidate , right ? That's not that shocking .
Right , correct .
But I don't think that he knows yet , any more than anybody else . I mean , and maybe his source is doing what everybody else is doing , which is just guessing at this point , saying there's no way common sense tells you that Biden cannot be on that ballot .
Well , I think the bridge too far is not that Biden's out , it's that Biden's going to endorse a free for all . And that sound , I mean you start hearing that . You're like whoa , I mean that would be seismic . I think actually for the party , for the Democratic party , it could end up being a very , a real positive for them .
But I don't think that's how it's going to go . I think it's going to be Kamala , because I don't think they're going to make that full jump , right . I think they're going to do a half measure . I think it's going to be Kamala and someone else , right ? I mean , that's that's my guess . So , but anyway , he , he really went for it .
I just don't think there's any like love loss going to be between Biden and Harris . I don't think they're like the best of friends is what I'm saying .
I don't know if any , yeah well .
I don't know I mean so . I just I would not be shocked if Biden doesn't come out and say put your arms around her . I don't know .
Yeah , I don't know either , but but what this past week has shown us is every attempt by Biden to try to reel this back in and get himself back on steady ground failed , because he is battling something that is unbeatable and every time he goes out he shows more and more that he just can't keep doing it . And it's heartbreaking to I really .
I mean again , no fan of Joe Biden , but I don't want to see someone go through all this , and the more you watch it happen and you listen to some of these answers , you just sit there in wonderment that he's still doing this and that his wife keeps shoveling him back out there .
Yeah , this is it's . You wonder how much like , how much more can he take ? Because it's got to be pride swallowing if he's actually following everything that . I mean I'm sure he is all the , you know , all the media coverage , Now the Democrats that are throwing him under the bus . It's got to be price-walling .
But again , when you see things like this , it's no surprise .
Yeah , let's just take a quick . We'll do one clip of an interview he did over the past couple of days .
I listened to them .
In your last TV interview , you were asked if you had watched the debate and your answer was I don't think so . No , have you since seen it ?
I've seen pieces of it . I've not watched the whole debate .
The reason I ask ? Because I guess the question is are you all on the same page ? Are you seeing what they saw , which was moments of , frankly , that appeared to be . You appeared to be confused .
Lester . Look , why don't you guys ever talk about the 18 to 28 lies he told . Where are you on this ? Why didn't the press ever talk about that ? 28 times it's confirmed . He lied in that debate . I had a bad , bad night . I wasn't feeling well at all and I had been , without a doubt I screwed up and I screwed up .
I just asked a question because the idea that you may or may not have seen what some of these other folks have seen you're not on the same .
I'd have to see I was there . I'd have to see I was there . And , by the way , seriously , you won't answer the question , but why didn't the press talk about all the lies he told ?
I don't know anything about that . We have reported many of the issues that came up in that debate .
There was a lot of this over the past week . That it's just uncomfortable . He had some really uncomfortable moments with Lester Holt . Again , this is friendly media to him For him to go out and say why don't you ever talk about Trump to the mainstream media ?
Oh my God . They light Trump up every chance they get .
And so this just starts to snowball , right . So you see all these interviews and then the lifeblood of a campaign .
Is the donor money and it's drying out . For Joe , at least according to this recent headline , donors cash is drying up . Katzenberg warns Biden in a private meeting . You know people stepping away if people step away and stop supporting you financially . Meeting you know people stepping away . If people step away and stop supporting you financially , you're in trouble .
And people maybe I mean I think people kind of understand that , but unless you've worked for a campaign , I mean that's a massive right , but when you cannot raise money , and that's what happens usually .
So when you're in a primary and you start to see polls come out where you're way behind , what ends up happening is the first thing that goes is your donor money , the people that have really stood by you and allowed you to push toward the finish line in the primary and you see it in the primary most often , just because you've got about three or four
different candidates , you're all fighting for the same amount of money and you're trying to get that money . And you know when a bad poll comes out , your money dries up , you're done , you . And you know when a bad poll comes out , your money dries up , you're done , you're dead . Right . Remember , we talked about it with DeSantis the minute the money went back .
He was done with it within a couple of days , right . And so what you're starting to see is donors now saying not only are we not giving to Joe , but we may not give to down ballot people until Joe steps aside . So they're trying to to push
¶ Democratic Party Turmoil and Crime Neglect
that . And then Barack Obama has come out , apparently behind the scenes , and he has said that basically , he's done , he needs to go . So here's the headline from the New York Post , and it's Barack stabbed . Of course , they never miss a chance to little play on words .
But apparently , behind the scenes , you've got Pelosi , you've got Obama , you've got the Clintons , they're all doing the same thing . And here's why we have new numbers out from CBS and they are horrendous . For Biden . Now , don't forget , here , nationally , cbs has Trump up five .
Don't forget a Republican that wins the popular vote by five points has not happened in 25 years . Right , I mean , it's unbelievable . That gap would be huge . That'd be a blowout 300-plus electoral votes for Donald Trump . So this number is terrifying for Democrats .
Yeah , absolutely , I mean . And then this next one is choice for president . They even put him up against Harris in the next one .
And even that it's closer , though , and I think that you see where their bet is right . Their bet is look , we go with kamala , we've got a shot to at least bring this thing closer . They rehab her , turn her into a new candidate , and try to do it knowing that at least some chance with kamala is better than no chance with Joe .
Unless you talk to Scott Jennings , who is at CNN and he says basically good luck , because Kamala's not going to move the needle .
All right .
Right , you cannot blame them . I agree with you . By the way , they cannot skip over Harris , because it would be a monumental admission that she wasn't qualified when they picked her in the first place . They have to go to Harris . They have to go to .
Harris , they have to go to Harris .
But let me tell you what you're going to the idea that you're going to something a little better . I mean , if it's a little , it's by a smidge . I mean , her approval rating right now is about 38% , not much different than Joe Biden , and she would be tied to the worst and most unpopular parts of the Biden agenda .
So there it is Okay . So you know , we'll see Right , and we'll see how it all shakes out . But I do think if I had to guess next three to five days this all comes down and then how the Democrats deal with it , They've got a shot . They've got a shot to reset the race If they open this thing up .
I just can't tell you how odd this whole news cycle has been for the last I don't know , five weeks , maybe just that it's . It's like you never know what's going to happen the next morning when you wake up and it's , it's gone crazy , from Trump's court cases to the debate that was just three weeks ago .
That was just three weeks ago and so much has happened since that debate . I mean you could be right , we could wake up tomorrow and biden's , like you know . I guess I better bow out again . The question becomes if he doesn't bow out before the democratic convention , does he go out with any legacy left at all ?
well , yeah , and that is yeah . Once you start to run down , you're right , you keep going on this path .
We've said this he turns into a pariah yeah , yeah , that's right , and then they'll turn on him .
Every day this continues .
No library .
He just chip , chip the whole library thing , I mean . But whatever , right . But hey , maybe you think that way . Maybe , if you're him , you do start to think that way . I don't know .
But with every passing day , you get a step closer to being a pariah and a step away from being who rescued the country from Donald Trump , and that's something that Joe Biden allegedly is starting to get in touch with . We'll find out , all right . One more story locally is one you wanted to touch on . Of course I want to touch on it .
We've been talking about this special session that the governor here in New Mexico had to have had to have because they were going to fight crime and they were going to solve the world's problems all in this special session , which I'm not sure how that was actually going to happen . But here we go .
Special session lasted a whole whopping five hours today and here's the headline . It says it was over in five hours . Lawmakers in House and Senate failed to act on any of the governor's crime bills . And I just have to pull some of the comments that her team put out . She put out in a statement tonight because it's fascinating .
And it said the legislator just demonstrated that it has no interest in making New Mexico safer . Not one public safety measure was considered .
Not one , despite having bills being backed by police chiefs , public safety unions , mayors , prosecutors , businesses , tribal leaders , crime victims and others who have been seen firsthand the erosion of public safety that has deeply damaged the quality of life in our state .
And then she goes on to say the legislator as a body walked away from their most important responsibility keeping New Mexicans safe . She adds this but it is noteworthy that a majority of Republicans would have passed many or all of these bills , they were blocked . So and she ? I mean , this is just .
So what that says is her own party stopped her Right Right and you have a fracture within the Democratic Party and not willing to address crime . This is poor leadership from start to finish .
This governor has never cared about crime Never , and suddenly , now she's trying to go back with legislative relationships that have long since been fractured and are toast beyond repair , and she tries to bully them in to going in there and getting the job done . Well , the problem is when the bully is called out and humiliated by the legislature .
This is what you get , and this is something that this Democratic Party in the state of New Mexico needs to answer for this , because the reality of the situation is this was poorly planned and even more poorly executed . Everybody can see that with this special session , it was never going anywhere , and that's what happens .
When you don't have proper leadership and you don't set it up right and you're not an honest broker about what you want . When you're going after political wins . This is the results you get . You get a political loss , and so what we have to do is reset , and Republicans are willing to do it .
By the way , they've always been willing to go after these crime bills and do what needs to be done , but the people of the state need to ask themselves what's going on on the other side and they've got to step up and I think there are some good Democrats who want to do it , but I think you need to have a leader who's willing to take you there , and
right now the gap between the Democrats in this state on this is a mile wide .
Yeah , it's pretty dangerous and we're going to dive into more of this on our next show . With the latest reports coming out , that's saying Albuquerque is the 20th most dangerous city in the world globally .
See , I had a quote that said 23 . Did we rise up to 20 somehow ?
Well , I think it was in the top 20 .
I think that's kind of how it was framed .
It was the headline of it , but we're going to talk about that more because it's interesting on how that reflects on our local mayor and how he might be trying to shove that under the carpet . So obviously we've got a long time tonight , so we'll get to that on the next show .
Thanks so much for joining us for this very late night session and we will see you back here on Monday .
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