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LA Ablaze: When Leadership Fuels the Fire Instead of Fighting It

Jun 08, 2025•48 min
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🎙️ In This Episode:

🚨 Riots Erupt Over ICE Raids in Los Angeles

  • Violent riots broke out in LA as ICE conducted raids—and shockingly, Democratic leaders are siding with the rioters.
  • Mark breaks down why this is a huge mistake and why you can’t have a country if you can’t enforce its laws.
  • The more Democrats defend lawbreakers instead of supporting Trump’s efforts to secure the country, the more they’re alienating everyday Americans.

🛂 Another Twist in the “Maryland Man” Saga

  • We’ve got an update on the story of Abrego Garcia, the “Maryland Man” seeking a return to the U.S.
  • Let’s just say it’s not going the way he—or his defenders—had hoped.

🏅 Simone Biles vs. Riley Gaines—What Is Biles Thinking?

  • Why did Simone Biles come out in favor of men competing in women’s sports—and why would she call Riley Gaines a “sore loser”?
  • Krysty breaks it all down and asks the question many Americans are thinking: If Biles never had to compete against men, why should today’s female athletes have to?

🚗 Is the Future of the Family Road Trip Changing?

  • Ella Ronchetti joins the show to give her take on what family car travel is going to look like in the coming decades.
  • The answer: It’s going to be a whole lot different than the road trips we grew up on!

🛬 The Most Turbulent Airports in America

  • We’ve got the latest list of the most turbulent airports to land at in the U.S.
  • Is Albuquerque (ABQ) on the list? You might be surprised.

🐘 And Finally… An Elephant in a Grocery Store

  • You won’t believe this must-see video of an elephant that got stuck in a grocery store in Thailand.
  • Yes, it really happened—and we’ve got the footage.

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Transcript

⁠œ LA Immigration Protests Turn Violent

Speaker 2

All right , no doubt about it Podcast . It's blowing up in LA right now .

Speaker 3

Well , yeah .

Speaker 2

Unbelievable .

Speaker 3

Ridiculous in LA . I'm so glad I'm not in California today or this weekend .

Speaker 2

Well , we are going to get to it , and we'll explain why . I think it's being made worse by our leaders , who are doing everything they can instead of trying to , you know , bring everybody together on this and try to create some sense of a path forward , just throwing lighter fluid on everything .

Speaker 3

Right , there's no sense of calming it down .

Speaker 2

Oh no , there's no doubt about that . So we'll get to that , and we're also going to get to a couple other things . New polling data's out . We'll talk about that . Brago Garcia , the .

Speaker 3

Maryland man is getting his wish . Wish , he's coming back . He's coming back everybody , but how long will he last ?

Speaker 2

well , it's the thing . It was a significant mistake . It was interesting to read some of the legal opinion on this from lawyers who were like his lawyers absolutely destroyed him because of the way they handled this . So we'll see how that ends up happening .

Simone Biles jumps out , decides she wants to get into the whole men and women's sports fight , and it turned out to be a spicy one . Let's just say that . And then we've got a couple other key things the way you travel in your car is going to be changing , and a visitor to a Thai grocery store that you have to see to believe .

Speaker 3

Okay , all right . Well , yeah , and it is a smoking hot here , by the way . I mean is this going to ? Is it going to cool off at all ?

Speaker 2

It is actually Monday and Tuesday got another chance for more rain on the way , so we are going to get wet again . It looks like especially over mountain sections , but it looks like some decent moisture across the state Again . We have dodged a major bullet this spring , there's no question .

So we're getting ready to hit summer here , and usually May June those are our worst fire months , even into summer July . So far we have done very well for moisture and escaped major , major problems to this point .

Speaker 3

Well , I just need to escape some of the heat because I , you know , I do a lot of walking and I'm doing my weighted vest now .

Speaker 2

Yeah , the weighted vest is just like a first world thing , like I don't have enough problems , put a weighted vest is just like a first world thing .

Like I don't have enough problems , put a weighted vest on me and the one thing I will say , by the way , next week , next Sunday , monday could hit a hundred in Albuquerque though there's no weighted vest when it's a hundred degrees , We'll see what happens . I mean , look you bought the weighted vest , you got to wear it .

Speaker 3

I don't want to tell you Not in the heat I on me when I yeah , by the way why not just carry a bag of potatoes ?

Speaker 2

you don't need to go buy some weighted vest from amazon . They cost 70 bucks to send it to you it's not 70 dollars .

Speaker 3

By the way , I don't buy anything on amazon for 70 bucks just just go get a jug of water on amazon .

Speaker 2

I mean , what are you trying to do here , just ?

Speaker 3

what ? Get a piece of rope and tie it around my waist I know it's like you're listening .

If you're a middle-aged woman now , apparently you need to drink creatine , eat a thousand million calories of protein yes and wear a weighted vest when you walk in 100 degree temperature that's right those are those the rules that's the new , it's basically a full-time job to be a middle-aged woman just to be just to stay middle-aged heck , yeah , it is I guess

that's what I'm doing yeah , it's great , it's .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah , it's great , all right it is . It's quite a trend so I'm not donating that way .

Speaker 3

Well , or just go old school and get the old ankle weights that they used to strap those on oh , I had those and walk around with those things . I had the weighted because I think you need the compounded .

Speaker 2

I'm still trying to figure out why I'm wearing a weighted vest by the way it would appear to be more evenly distributed than the old ankle weights .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I'm still trying to figure it without the weighted vest . Again , again , you're making my point , not yours .

Speaker 2

So all right . So let's go ahead and get to a couple of quick

⁠œ Politicians Adding Fuel to the Fire

emails .

Speaker 3

Okay , so a couple of quick emails coming in . We we basically blew up with Bigfoot .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah , your Bigfoot story yeah .

Speaker 3

We had so many comments I was like , okay , I'll just pick a couple here . But resi says uh , you city folks are a hoot . We've known about bigfoot , uh , quite a while . I think is what they're saying . Of course we'll never get a picture , I think is what they're talking about because uh , we're too slow , yeah , trying to take their pictures .

Speaker 2

That's probably true .

Speaker 3

I mean , that's a good point plus in and out of the portal .

Speaker 2

Yeah , in and out of the portal . You're not going to get a picture of them oh my gosh , that's how it works .

Speaker 3

I want people to know that you don't actually believe that you don't , you can't prove that I mean people are writing you saying does mark really believe formal of travel for big fight ?

Speaker 2

well , how else do you explain it ?

Speaker 3

um , a guy in a gorilla suit for crying out loud , okay , well , seriously all , right all right , okay . Susan wrote in and said I would like to hear more about your experiences running for office . We did talk quite a bit about our our when it's appropriate at different times .

Speaker 2

Uh , susan , so that's what we try to do is like , if it , if it is something that that applies to what we're talking about and we can add something in , we will . I don't like just talking about for no reason . It's like some trauma response from me . I'm like , oh my God .

Speaker 3

But uh , we've shared a lot of stories over over the time and , honestly , like , I think it's like episode two or four or five it's it's under 10 . It's early , early days . We went into a lot of detail about your campaign .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and we'll go back as soon as we get into election season and next year and everything else , we will definitely add things in here and there that I think can be helpful . It's just , it's funny because when you listen to a lot of people who haven't lived it before and don't know that there's just , there are just certain rules that apply .

There's certain forces of gravity and politics that don't appear to be easily grasped just from the surface , like if you're just looking at things . Me too , I mean .

Speaker 3

I would have no idea .

Speaker 2

Absolutely . And then then you start realizing some of the things that happen and you're like oh , then you realize where some of the rules are . And then you talk to certain people and you realize they know a lot about these sorts of things and we try to bring those people on to you . Jay is a great example of that .

Jay McClough is a great example of that . A guy just knows that that world , versus the guy just sitting around going well , I think that this guy's going to be awesome , or this woman's good , no one's going to stop her . You know , and you're like uh , no wrong . And then , or or you're absolutely right . You know , it just depends .

But a lot of times people end up being right about politics for the wrong reasons , right , they ? They end up saying , well , you can't win , and then you're like but they don't understand the million things that happen , that go into how that all works out . So we try to give you as much information as we can . We'll keep doing that .

Speaker 3

Well , it's funny because I was listening to Ruthless podcast last week and they were talking about just that that the two things that people like to commentate from the couch on sports . They're experts on coaching , right .

Any sort of professional sports and politics , he said those are the two things that most people who have no idea about either one of those say a lot of things on social media about it . Right , just tweet whatever they want or just have very strong opinions about things and feelings about people or players or coaches or whatever .

Speaker 2

No , it's exactly right , absolutely no and sometimes you're right and you just have no idea why you were right .

Right , so it'll be like it'd be , like me saying you know , oh , you know , there's no way that Tony Romo should be , you know , starting to no way Dak Prescott be , and I don't have any idea what's going on in the building and I could end up being right about whatever it is , I just have no idea why .

Speaker 3

Right .

Speaker 2

And I ended up stumbling onto it , so it's just kind of interesting to go through that . You're right , politics is definitely everybody's got an opinion on . Oh , this is going to work , that isn't going to work , this is what you got to do , and it a million times .

On this show , too , your success or failure as a candidate likely will come down to something that's completely and totally out of your control , so there's no way you could have ever won . That's not true . Like you just didn't know what we were looking at .

And actually you know there were a series of events that occurred and why we didn't , and there are other candidates , very similar things that happen , and there are some candidates just have no chance ,

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no matter what you know , and you can say , oh , they got a great shot , they're gonna . No , they don't like .

Speaker 3

You , just know it like it is weird now that you kind of once you've been in it , like even just me , just I mean , I didn't wasn't a candidate , but I was just part of the campaigns for so long that I can , I feel like I have a really good , uh , sense of knowing , like what people need to be able to win and who who's not going to have a real shot ,

and you never want to say you have no shot , but you can kind of tell Like this person's not going to have any shot , because I know what they're going to be up against . only in our state I mean , I couldn't speak to that like in , necessarily like Arizona , colorado .

Speaker 2

Well , you can sometimes in national politics , like , for example , when this is a guy we spoke to during the campaign a little bit Larry Hogan , the governor of Maryland right , everybody said you know , does Larry Hogan have a chance to get the Republican nomination ? The answer is absolutely not .

Like Larry Hogan could never have gotten the Republican nomination , chris Christie could never have gotten the Republican nomination . You have to know who the electorate is and who they're trying to elect Middle of the road . Republicans do not win those races , they just don't . Okay , that's just how it works , all right , and so there's no constituency for that .

So there's a lot of people in the middle that don't vote in primaries that tell you oh yeah , I don't know , they got a real shot . I really like them , okay , well , guess what ? You're not voting and you never do . Hey , independent guy , who's going to carry everyone to victory ? Those guys don't vote in primaries .

Okay , you can get some of them to vote , but you're not going to get enough to make a difference . So that's just one of those things , but anyway , okay .

Speaker 3

Now Joe said love the banter . Well , joe , you got an earful already .

Speaker 2

So thank you so much . Just tell Chrissy to pipe it down , okay , sorry .

Speaker 3

Thanks , joe , for writing that . Okay . And then the Atomic Mom . Thank you , the Atomic Mom , thank you . Thank you for writing in . This was about my fair life .

Speaker 2

Yes .

Speaker 3

Core power , my protein drink that I drink almost every single morning . You bashed it . Well , not you , but you brought in an article that bashed it , yeah , saying it wasn't good for me .

Speaker 5

Yes .

Speaker 3

But the Atomic Mom wrote in . She said about your fair life , core power drink . It's not as bad as the seeds holes , cotton seed holes and silage .

Speaker 2

I think that's how you say it yeah , silage yeah .

Speaker 3

The corn and soy the cows are fed is not sweet corn that you eat with a meal . It's feed corn that is grown to feed animals . The cows are fed corn and soy . Silage , which is the whole plant stock , leaves , cobs and soybean .

It's amazing that cows can take plant material and the byproducts of agricultural , eat this and then turn it into milk for us to consume . Carrageenine , which is the thickening agent we talked about , is actually made out of seaweed . It's perfectly safe . I would be wary of any article that says that it might be safe .

What does that exactly mean and where is the primary source or study that makes this claim ?

Speaker 4

Yeah .

Speaker 3

I can't remember the name . Do you remember where you pulled that article from ?

Speaker 2

I do not , I'm sorry , but Atomic Mom offering a little solace for the ladies in the room .

Speaker 3

Atomic Mom making me feel good about still drinking my Atomic . I mean my Atomic . I'm going to call it the Atomic Powerful .

Speaker 2

Thanks to the .

Speaker 3

Atomic Mom , so thank you so much for that .

Speaker 2

That was good . Let's jump into this LA madness . I mean , fell apart over there , right ? So there's a lot of protesting going on with what's going on with ICE and they're turning very violent , okay , and so I want to talk about this , but I want to make a broader point .

So I want to start with not actually what is going on , but what is being said about what is going on . So there is a representative from California , named representative of Berrigan , and she talked about what is happening with these protests . Now it's beyond comedy that she is saying this .

She you're going to hear her say it's nonviolent , and then you're going to see burning vehicles , just like in the shot on CNN . So I want you to just listen to her first , and I'm going to give you about three or four examples of this and why I think it is so damaging and likely to make things worse before they get better .

Speaker 3

So just listen to this from CNN and make sure you're explaining this , because with people that just listen , they don't see like they just hear her but they don't see the madness that's actually being shown .

Speaker 2

Right , we'll get to that in a second , but just even what she says , right ? What I care most about , just listen to what she says about this . And yeah , for those of you that are watching , there's a burning car in the shower . But let's just get to that . Here's what she said .

Speaker 4

We are having an administration that's targeting peaceful protests , people that are there to protest . The president is sending the National Guard because he doesn't like the scenes . He doesn't like the scenes of people peacefully protesting .

Speaker 2

OK , here's part of your problem . When your congressional leaders come out and say things that are just demonstrably a lie , you start looking at them going what are you doing ? What is this Like ? How do we trust you ? How do we trust anything that's said anymore ?

And this is what so many people are confused because our leaders come out and they just flat out say things that are in direct opposition to the truth . So Gavin Newsom issues a variety of different statements . We just grabbed one little quick Twitter blurb from him .

Speaker 3

As the federal government conducts chaotic immigration sweeps across the country , the state is deploying additional CHP to maintain safety on Los Angeles highways , to keep the peace . It's not their job to assist in federal immigration enforcement . The federal government is sowing chaos so they can have an excuse to escalate .

That is not the way any civilized country behaves .

Speaker 2

Okay so Gavin Newsom , effectively saying , hey look , we've got this under control . Never mind the burning cars , never mind the rocks hitting people as they're driving by , never mind the stores being overrun and ransacked , please pay no attention to this and , by the way , and also locking ICE people into a parking garage .

Speaker 3

like rioters are cornering them in and attacking them . Never mind any of that . They have it all under control .

Speaker 2

That's right .

Speaker 4

And so now Bernie Sanders he comes out and he's on CNN on Sunday , and here's what he had to say my understanding is that the governor of California , the mayor of the city of Los Angeles , did not request the National Guard , but he thinks he has a right to do anything he wants .

He is Trump , and I would say that , to a large degree , the future of this country rests with a small number of Republicans in the House and Senate who know better , who do know what the Constitution is about , and it's high time they stood up for our Constitution and the rule of law , you know .

Speaker 2

I would argue , senator Sanders , that you're exactly 180 percent wrong in this particular case , or 180 degrees wrong in this particular case , because this is really on our leaders like you , sir , to stand up and realize that we have laws in this country and we have to enforce those laws .

And if you go back and look at history , your party's history , going back to what happened in Minneapolis , and you did nothing while you had innocent people being victimized night after night after night , if you have your way , you do nothing and you had innocent people being victimized night after night after night .

Speaker 3

If you have your way , you do nothing and you just let them do what ? They want . Well , they burned a police station down in Minneapolis and the police were told by that mayor to get themselves out of the building . Get out of the building and let them burn down . Governor , walz , just let it go on , just let it go on .

Speaker 2

And now this whole thought of oh my God , gavin Newsom says we don't need any help . People of Los Angeles need up . This is ridiculous .

Speaker 3

Well , and , by the way , her saying at the beginning , that first clip of her saying that President Trump doesn't like to see peaceful , doesn't like the scene of peaceful protests , it's because he's not seeing peaceful protests , he's seeing things on fire and attacks happening .

And then you hear Gavin Newsom saying well , it's the federal government's job to impose this , is not ours . Okay , so is it not his job , trump's job , to say okay , I'm going to sit in the National Guard because things ?

Speaker 2

are escalating . I'm not going to watch what happened in Minneapolis and I'm not going to watch what happened in .

Speaker 3

Minneapolis . So I think he's exactly doing what he's supposed to do and else I'm misunderstanding .

Speaker 2

No , I think you're right . And then Eunice Hernandez , who is with the LA City Council .

Speaker 3

Yeah , LA .

Speaker 4

They know how quickly we mobilize . That's why they're changing tactics , because community defense works and our resistance has slowed them down before , and if they're escalating their tactics , then so are we . Yes , when they show up , we got to show up even stronger .

Speaker 2

OK , she is basically advocating for violence . Ok writing and this is giving a permission structure to people to come out and to criminally take over a city , so you can't let this happen . I mean , this is absolutely horrendous what we're watching and what is it like ?

well , here's cbp officers in a truck trying to drive down the street in la , and what you hear hitting the truck are bricks and rocks this is peaceful protesters by the way I just want to remind people that's the police force in this country now just getting rocks thrown at them because you have them trying to enforce immigration law , and then our leaders saying

we're going to give you permission for as much violence as possible . We're not going to stand up and say enough of the violence , cut the garbage . We don't do that in this country , right ?

Instead of doing that , instead of standing up for what has to be stood up for , what we now see is the continued escalation , because we have feckless , gutless leaders who let this happen in the first place and then , as we keep going now , they continue to fan the flames . This is what it looks like when everything is political .

That's what it looks like you have one side versus the other . It doesn't matter what your side does . You advocate for it . Why ? Because they're your side . And when it's a zero-sum game and you don't care , it's a joke . And to me , you look at this and it's horrendous to watch it play out .

Speaker 3

Right ? Well , let's look at a little bit more clips before I say some more thoughts , because I have definite thoughts on this . But I just want to show you this one clip . Here's just . I mean , this is just unbelievable

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at night , just more rioting happening here .

Speaker 2

I mean so as you look at this , I mean you see waving flags Palestinian flags , mexican flags and then attacking our police officers and our National Guardsmen who are now coming in to start to calm things down again .

Speaker 3

And this is through .

Speaker 2

This is Wall street journal that put this video together and then let's go to clip 10 and you'll see some more of what you were talking about , with some of the rocks being thrown at these guys as well .

I mean it's , it's wild to watch and to sit here and think , I mean , just watch these guys go after cars and they're just going to start chucking things at people . Now some of some of them are , you know , doing with their shields and trying to stay back , but a lot of them are masked and then here they come throwing the rocks right there . That's now .

We showed you the video when they were inside that truck . Right , we showed you the video from inside that truck . Now you see them just chucking all these rocks . You cannot do this when you , when you go there and allowed your whole country to just be torn apart , and it is absolutely mayhem .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and show 11 , too . Show clip 11 here . I found this one earlier today . This gives like a real they're trying to find these people Because , look at this , this is like just in the median , just chucking huge rocks .

Speaker 2

At normal people driving by , yeah at everybody .

Speaker 3

It doesn't matter if they're in there to try to help , if they're police officers , if they're ICE or if they're just drivers driving by . You've got people down the street throwing the big rocks at cars . You've got these guys in the median with a motorcycle helmet on his head just chucking big rocks .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I mean .

Speaker 3

It's like a third world country is what it looks like . Honestly , it doesn't look like streets that are under control .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and , by the way , dan Bongino saw this video . They're trying to find the guy there that is standing in the road taking huge rocks and throwing them at random people .

Speaker 3

Right , he just said he's the FBI director and he said he would need the public to help identify the man throwing the rocks at the vehicles in Los Angeles where federal agents are conducting raids . We are that guy with the helmet is the one we saw .

Speaker 2

And then Greg Gutfeld had this to say when he was well , he just tweeted , which is a fair point .

Speaker 3

Trying to find a country to establish a sanctuary city where I can burn she while waving my native country's flag , while violently demanding they don't send me back to the native country of the flag I am waving . Is there a country I can terrorize , then demand sympathy when they want me to leave ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , I mean it's just , it's ludicrous to watch . Yeah , it is .

Speaker 3

It's just , it's unbelievable . And it's unbelievable that you have Governor Newsom sitting there in California saying everything's under control , I've got this all under control . I'm wondering if Tim Walz is thinking maybe I should give him a call .

Speaker 2

No , he's not , Because they don't understand it .

Speaker 3

They're going to burn your city to the ground is what's going to happen .

Speaker 2

Think about this too . I'm sorry . Every country on the planet has immigration law that they enforce , and if you get to a country now and we live in a country now where it's like , no , you're not allowed to enforce that anymore , you've lost your country . Like you can't do that , you don't get to answer with violence and say guess what ?

We're going to destroy you . If you try to enforce the laws If that is where we're going , then we don't have laws anymore . Then it's going to be like well , I'm afraid to enforce the law , so we're not going to , and then you have chaos . Then you've wrecked your country , all right .

So that's why leaders on both sides should be coming together on this and saying enough of the violence . If you get violent , you're gone and get them out . Get them all out . If you're going to be violent , or if you're an American citizen getting violent , you're going to jail .

Speaker 3

I mean , you know this is ridiculous , which is why , now , president Trump was not waiting for Newsom and he went ahead and brought in 2000 National Guard members . Here's some video of that happening .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yep , they're in now , and so we'll see what ends up happening here over the next couple of days and does this start to calm down .

But I will tell you , I think , as you look at this , just from a political sense , and if you're looking at this , we got a pull out from CBS news that came out today Okay , and if you think Trump is underwater on immigration , he's not . He's not .

So , before any of this , before all the violence , before people flying Mexican flags and throwing rocks at American vehicles , right before that , he was at 54 , 46 , up eight points on his immigration policy . And should you deport people here illegally ? Okay .

And , by the way , those visuals that you're seeing , right , there are not going to work in Gavin Newsom's favor or anyone's favor who is for this . There are not going to work in Gavin Newsom's favor or anyone's favor who is for this . It's not going to work , okay . So you have a major problem here .

And so I just think , as you continue to move forward , I think where Trump is on this , this is his , this is his ground , where he feels like he is on very solid ground .

Speaker 3

Well , I just think you know a lot of us are just over in six , just tired of the rioting that happened with the BLM riots , and you saw what happened to Portland , you saw what happened to Seattle , you see what happens to San Francisco , you see what happens to these cities that get completely out of control Minneapolis , where things just go and escalate like

crazy and all the looting starts and it just became chaos for a solid what ? Two years . Really . I mean realistically . It was about two years of just complete and utter chaos , and a lot of those cities are still trashed or still trying to rebuild their communities . So I'm excited that Trump is saying no , not happening .

Like I will start , I think he's learned a lot based on what's happened in just recent history in our country , and I think that is good , that he's learning things that are new , if Gavin Newsom hasn't learned anything from the mess that Tim Walz created in Minneapolis .

Speaker 2

He's learned . Politics is what he's learned . This is politics . Now , this is . My base will be upset if I come out and say what are you doing ? Oh my gosh , they are beholden to a sliver of their own party . I guarantee you most Democrats are like what is this ? We can't have this . And yet they're beholden to this tiny sliver .

That is like no , you shouldn't enforce any immigration law whatsoever . Open up the borders . Let them do whatever they want . I mean , that's a terrible place to be . You will continue to get destroyed in elections if you continue to follow this path . That's the ironic thing is , the more political you are , the less chance you have to win a political race .

Speaker 3

Well , I said a meme to a friend of mine today and was Gavin Newsom just taking selfies and videoing himself and in the background it's just like chaos and it was like things on fire and the guy with the flags and everything . And I was like how do you govern a state of California during chaos ?

Speaker 2

And it's just him like , talking about himself and how great he is and all this and I'm like yeah , believe me , the AI memes are hilarious because of what you can do with them now , but but it's it's sad too , I mean , at the same time you watch it and go oh my gosh , what you know , what are we doing here ?

So we'll see what happens with this , I think . What you're seeing , though , is if you think Trump is going to back down on this . No , and nor should he .

Most Americans realize you cannot operate , cannot continue to be a country and , by the way , if we stop this down , we will have done it just in time , because , eventually , you see some certain countries in the world , especially in Europe they can't stop this .

Speaker 3

They can't stop it . There's nothing they can do . And it is dangerous . It's hurting their tourism , it's hurting their economies , it's hurting their livelihood , their schools or hospitals . It is crazy . So if you don't get under , control .

Speaker 2

The stuff gets violent and then they have nothing . There's no way they can stop it Right , and that's the kind of stuff that , that , that a that a civilized society , a society that is truly gives everybody a chance , especially in a country like this where we've provided more opportunity and we will continue to . But you can't do it this way .

I mean it's out of control . And then you get back to the , to the issue .

Speaker 3

I mean all of this whole immigration issue continues to blow up with the Maryland man . Yeah , maryland man , who's ?

Speaker 2

the moron from Maryland that went down there that represented uh , he's , he's you know what he's doing around .

Speaker 3

He's so excited because they're going to bring back uh , a Brego Garcia . They're going to bring this guy back from the prison .

Speaker 2

Yes .

Speaker 3

Because now they're going to charge him on human trafficking . So here's the thing .

Speaker 2

So yeah , so this is what's funny , so this was amazing and so I found this article and it was by Jonathan Turley , who's an attorney who looks at all this stuff Real smart guy .

But what made it so funny is and Alan Dershowitz talked about the same thing where they were both like yeah , but what made it so funny is and Alan Dershowitz talked about the same thing where they were both like , yeah , had his lawyers not turned him into the Maryland man who was just swept up and sent away ?

Had they handled this more tactically and said , wait , you just you can't send him here , but you can send him to these other places because they had every right to deport him . He's an MS-13 gang member . He's been accused by his wife , credibly , of beating her multiple times . Remember , he's been accused by his wife credibly of beating her multiple times .

Ok , it's a bad guy , sorry , but he is OK , but has it , as an attorney's , not turned him into the Maryland man ? Likely , this never would have happened . He's now going to end up back here , likely to be convicted . Even if he's not convicted , by the way , he's going to get . He's gone . He's never going to live in freedom in America again .

Ok , because they're going to . They're going to ship them off to another country . However , he's more likely to end up in jail .

Speaker 3

but just listen to what Turley says about how this all went down in clip 17 . Oh yeah , okay . So if a Brego Garcia had been removed , little attention would have likely been drawn to his prior conduct .

Indeed , as all the democratic politicians , such as Senator Chris Van Hollen , arrived in El Salvador with an army of reporters , one has to wonder if Abrego Garcia was having second thoughts about his challenge . While news organizations like NPR described Abrego Garcia as a family man living quietly in Maryland , the facts proved far more damning .

He was repeatedly accused of beating his wife . The court record also included allegations of his involvement in a notorious gang , per , the Prince George's County Police Gang Unit . Abrego Garcia was validated as a member of the MS-13 gang . Subject was identified as a member of the MS-13 .

Speaker 2

I don't know how to say that , yeah , this information was provided and tested on a source who had provided truthful and accurate information in the past , so they know what they've got here . They jump behind a guy who's an MS-13 member and this guy's like , yeah , yeah , and then they're like , okay , let's bring him back .

He's been human trafficking For two years .

Speaker 3

it was two years that they think he it's something like a hundred transportations of illegal people and they believe human trafficking , sex trafficking , all this kind of stuff . So now I'm just like , okay , I can't wait to watch Chris Van Hollen get excited about this guy's trial .

I'm sure he's going to show up and be like a character witness for this guy now right , we do it .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it's a very good point Because they've had Maria together down in El Salvador .

Speaker 3

So , he should come up .

Speaker 2

No , it's true , and I think the funny thing is about this . I mean and we say it all the time on this show it's like why would you ? You know ? Why would you do this ? You ? You haven't as a , as a party , as as an , as a particular politician .

Why would you continually jump on this side of something that is so clearly against the best interest of the country and even against your own interest in winning an election ?

Speaker 3

well , because just it's again . It's just , it's anti-trump right , trump . Trump started this . And they think okay , well , we're not hailing immigration right and Trump started this , and they think okay , well , we're not hailing immigration right . And here's this guy that they thought they could somehow wrap their arms around and make him a family man .

Speaker 2

Oops , police reports . Oops , oops .

Speaker 3

Maybe you should slow down before you pack your bags and use taxpayer-funded money to go down to El Salvador and make a cocktail with this guy and make him all these promises of bringing him home .

Speaker 4

I mean I'm just saying , guy stepped in it , he's absolutely stepped in it . I hope his voters remember this ?

Speaker 3

I really do , because it's just ridiculous . Okay , speaking of stepping in it , I was just like thumbing through Twitter . I think we were trying to watch a show or something and I'm like , oh my gosh , there's like a little war between Riley Gaines and

⁠œ Simone Biles vs Riley Gaines Controversy

Simone Biles , like I was shocked at what happens . This is the tweet that Simone Biles put out against Riley Gaines . It says You're truly sick , all of this campaigning because you lost a race Straight up , sore loser .

You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive or creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports Maybe a transgender category in all sports but instead you bully them . One thing for sure is no one in sports is safe around you .

And then here's Riley Gaines' response to that , which I completely backed Riley Gaines on this . It said this is actually so disappointing . It's not my job , or the job of any woman , to figure out how to include men in our spaces . You can uplift men stealing championships in women's sports with your platform .

Men don't belong in women's sports and I say that with my full chest . I , I and I . We didn't even clip the things that people said to some . Uh , uh , simone Biles .

Speaker 2

She got ripped .

Speaker 3

She got landed on , I mean just thrown grenades at , because it was like how dare you Like what ? You've never competed against a man in gymnastics or your sport , like you have no idea what this is even like , yeah , it's ludicrous it's crazy that you jumped into this , like , why are you speaking about this ?

So , sage Steele , she says , um , she was on ESPN for a long time .

Speaker 2

She now has a podcast .

Speaker 3

Okay , so it's as easy to say this at Simone Biles , when you only had to compete against fellow women , every one of your Olympic medals came . Competing against fellow women , riley Gaines was not only forced to compete against a man , but forced to share a locker room with that man .

That is sick , shocked and disappointed that you'd attack another woman who has done nothing but uplift other women . If you think it makes sense to create a league for trans people , go for it . Use that huge platform of yours . But to attack Riley for what she has done for little girls who want to be the next Simone Biles is sick .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it's an unbelievably weird take Because , by the way , simone Biles had a different take in 2017 . She's like thankful that men don't compete in my sport and actually they can't . Really Men could not compete in the same events that Simone Biles does . Just the way they are . Like Simone Biles would be better at them actually , but , but , but her sport .

Speaker 3

That's why there is no man .

Speaker 2

Right , Right , Right . They could well , they couldn't right .

Speaker 3

Cause they couldn't win .

Speaker 2

They could not , they couldn't win Absolutely and , by the way , they're also not competing in like ballet competitions either . Brian Boxing , who won this last Olympics , had his Olympic medal stripped because he was a man Like . They found it out and they stripped it , and so this is just such an odd choice for her to walk in and go this route .

It's one thing to say , look , I think we need to try to be inclusive and to make a point about inclusivity . But if you're making a point about inclusivity by saying someone's a sore loser because a dude took him out , I mean , give me a break . It's just such a , it's so weird .

Speaker 3

It's a weird thing . And plus Riley Gaines for the record , riley Gaines didn't lose , she tied , but she had to give away the medal to the guy .

Speaker 2

Well , plenty of women lost to him .

Speaker 3

I mean , he won a national championship Of course she just was the voice that said crazy town that we're in this . I'm in this pool with a six foot four guy whose reach is crazy and is not . He's not a woman , so why ?

Speaker 2

am .

Speaker 3

I competing against him , so anyway it's it is .

Speaker 2

I don't understand the . I mean , this is a little bit . This harkens back a little bit to some of what you saw with some of the soccer players and stuff like that who never had to compete against men .

And even the U S women's soccer team who took on like a juniors team got destroyed and so and you know even what you're seeing what was it in Minnesota this past week ?

They had one pitcher on a girl's softball team who mowed everybody down and they won the state title Right Because one male pitcher came in there and said you know , I'm transgender , look out . And then they went .

Speaker 3

Yeah , it was like 14 innings or something .

Speaker 2

No , it was beyond that . It was two more games after that right , that was easy .

Speaker 3

Yeah , it was crazy , so yeah .

Speaker 2

And so that sort of thing . It's just again another one of these issues which is and again I don't think you're seeing as much of a political divide on this particular Simone Biles deal , I don't know , and I don't know what her thought process is on makes zero sense for her to walk in and say it this way .

Speaker 3

We're like sore loser . Yeah , she'd be okay with the dudes coming in . I mean , who are you ? It's also like two years this is she . Riley gaines been out there campaigning for two years . She's one of our first guests on this show . We started our show over two years ago .

Right , she's been at this for over two and a half years , so I don't know why simone is coming in right now . Yeah , like it makes it makes no sense , no , it doesn't Okay .

Speaker 2

A couple more stories . I also want to get on the mic here . We do have some changes coming up on how we travel .

Speaker 3

Oh yeah .

Speaker 2

I saw this in the wall street journal Pretty fascinating . A lot of times you don't know what's coming up with cars . You know because you see . You know , you see what comes out , the new model year or whatever . But they're working six , seven model years down the road . Right , they're working on all different sorts of stuff .

Speaker 3

So it just seems weird to me . I'm like why not just jump ahead to the year seven ? Like why do you need to make car three year for a lot of it ?

Speaker 2

takes time to like they're researching stuff and they're testing stuff . They do this all the time in Colorado . You'll be driving around and there'll be a car covered in almost like a blanket . It's a black blanket and it's because it's a tester car .

Speaker 1

It's a tester car .

Speaker 2

They're testing them out and sometimes , to your point , they never . They never go with it . Right , you're like , oh , why wouldn't you jump ahead Seven years ?

Speaker 3

Well , okay , but I'm just saying , if they're working on those models , well , I would just say no , no , no , it's some of the stuff they do , it's a car you never see , because it just never happens .

Speaker 2

Now , the reason they do it in Colorado is the high elevation , right . So you go up some of these passes , like you know , over Hoosier Pass or the Eisenhower Tunnel , it's , you know , 10,000 feet or whatever it is right , and so they do that . So , els , here's the article and it says the cars of the future will transform the great American road trip .

So here's what's interesting . Here's some of the details on what they

⁠œ Future of Transportation and Self-Driving Cars

talk about , what's going to be in cars , maybe within the next 10 years or so .

Speaker 3

Well , it starts with a revamped navigation system . They'll plan your ideal route , make hotel reservations and even teach you about the surrounding geography . Car interiors could transform into a mobile movie theater and lie-flat massaging seats will activate during endless highway stretches . During endless highway stretches .

As self-driving cars become more of a possibility , companies are exploring vehicles that break design convention with forward-facing seats , steering wheels or dashboards allowing for enhanced in-car travel experiences .

We're looking at hands-on experiences that offer the best of both worlds , where you can have the ultimate luxury of being chauffeured and still have that visceral experience of travel and all the information you want and need , says Bryant Nesbitt , head of global design at Cadillac . Now Cadillac says they're already dipping their toes into experiential designs .

Nesbitt and his team recently debuted a trio of concepts a tapered two-person grand tour with bed-like seats and a shared curved screen for long weekends away . A boxy six-person recreational vehicle for exploring nature and socializing with friends . And a single-person vertical takeoff and landing vehicle for accessing hard-to-reach locales . Look at this .

Speaker 2

There they are .

Speaker 3

And Ella wanted to point out , these are AI .

Speaker 1

Well , obviously , which we knew . I'm just saying , well , there are things in the past that you to point out , these are AI , well obviously , which we knew . I'm just saying , well , there are things in the past that you guys have not known are AI , yeah that's a good point Like one time dad pulled up a polar bear video One polar bear .

Speaker 2

I got fooled by one polar bear . It was so funny , you were like I can't believe these fishermen befriended these polar bears .

Speaker 4

And .

Speaker 1

I was that was embarrassing .

Speaker 5

Oh my gosh .

Speaker 1

That was so funny . So what I'm trying to say is is I don't , I don't see this happening Well .

Speaker 2

so here's one of the issues .

Speaker 3

Wait , why doesn't she Well hold on ? Let me give you the issue , and then you can tell me if this is why ?

Speaker 2

Uh , one thing they're concerned with is safety . Is that if you turn these things into beds , you're in real trouble ? Like you're just not you're not checking . So the question is what do you do with safety as well as mixed in with the new ? You know , you know issues on the road .

Now , if the car itself is being self-driven , then you're probably looking at fewer accidents , most likely , but that is one thing they're concerned about .

Speaker 1

So is it completely self-driving with no steering wheel on it ? Is that what they're saying ?

Speaker 2

No , I think you're going to always have the ability to override . I think I can't imagine you well , I shouldn't say that I , at least at the beginning of this whole thing , I think you'll have the ability to override .

Speaker 3

Okay , here's the thing . This sounds good when you're watching the Jetsons and the cars are all flying around and they get you to where you go and you don't have to really do anything . The reality for a type A personality like myself .

Speaker 2

Oh God , you grabbed the wheel yourself .

Speaker 3

There's no way I'm getting into it . There's no way that . Not only am I not going to get into a self-driving car , I'm certainly not going to lay down and go to sleep , no you know what , I think the car . You know what you're going to do . I'll take the train before I do that .

Speaker 2

No , no , no , no . Here's how this is going to stop pull over to the side . It's going to be like I'm done with you , lady , and enough of you just questioning how I drive .

Speaker 3

As it should be , because I just have zero business being in a self-driving car because I can't give that kind of control up there's zero chance .

Speaker 1

I think that these cars are unbelievably unrealistic and I think they're going to be super expensive .

Speaker 2

That's my thought process . Well , once you get the , well , yes , I think you're probably right for now , but I would say that down the road , this stuff does become cheaper . Like a lot of this , technology will eventually become cheaper .

Speaker 1

Like how Teslas were super expensive at the beginning .

Speaker 2

Right yeah , and I think some of the wear parts , like , for example , teslas , are a good example of the wear parts like , for example , tesla's are a good example . A lot of the wear parts that you have with a normal gas vehicle . You don't have them with a battery operated or an EV . Okay , you don't have hot engines running . There is no engine right .

You don't have all these issues . You have regenerative braking . You don't have as many of those issues . You don't have , you know , all sorts of different engine parts to wear . They don't occur .

So there is some real benefit to EVs and I think down the road , I think it's , it's going to be a real benefit , but for now it's still a bit dicey , especially on range .

Speaker 3

Are you , uh , are you going to lay down and fall asleep in a car that you're supposed to like ? It's just driving .

Speaker 2

I think like anything . Yeah , I think eventually you would .

Speaker 1

I'm asking you Would you ?

Speaker 2

Yes .

Speaker 1

I can't even sleep on a plane .

Speaker 2

I almost do it now .

Speaker 1

I can't sleep on a plane . No , that's insane that you're willing to . Like you're sitting in the driver's seat and you lay back and fall asleep If everybody else is in a . If everybody else is in a course , you don't think so . I don't think in my lifetime every single person is going to be driving a Samsung .

Speaker 3

Oh , I do . I don't want that , no way , and I'm telling you . That's why it works in the Jetsons , right ? Because ?

Speaker 2

Maybe you won't have your own cars . Maybe , Just pull up .

Speaker 3

A unit will just pull up and then he would hop in . Yeah , just drove you someplace that's right or it flew , yeah , when they are all and you'll pay by the use .

Speaker 1

You just won't have a car sitting there all the time , so it's like an uber all the time yes , but it would be a self-driving uber , yes , and then you'd order different levels , like you .

Speaker 2

you're like hey , I want the big sleeper car , cause I'm going to Denver .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 3

And you get in there and it takes you and you're done .

Speaker 2

You will absolutely fall asleep . My gosh , you'll be , you'll be out before you leave the neighborhood .

Speaker 3

This is this would be like okay , well to me then that's mass transportation , that's different , that's , but the premise of what you're talking about is that everybody would be in a similar type of transportation .

Speaker 5

Well , no , no .

Speaker 3

So if you're in a similar , type of transportation , then sure then I'm not as scared of like . If I have a semi coming at me and there's an ice storm and I'm dead asleep in the car and the car doesn't react well to the ice , and I get taken out by a semi Agreed .

Speaker 2

No , the ice thing is different . The ice thing is different . But I would say you're looking for , okay , jetsons .

Speaker 1

I'm just telling you eventually everybody will be able to afford that , though , cause I don't .

Speaker 2

I think it's going to be a use-based . I think it will be use-based . In other words , it's not about buying a . We have four cars sitting in our driveway right now . We don't need four cars . Most of the time in our driveway we need we always need two , and sometimes you need three .

Speaker 3

And sometimes you need four . You better talk to your daughters about taking away their cars , but you know what I'm saying ?

Speaker 2

The vast majority of the time , your car sits there doing nothing . Okay , so the point will be Ella , you're like I'm going to the gym , Boom , and you walk outside and it's there and it all of a sudden you get into it .

Speaker 3

It takes you to look like I figured it out . You've traveled through the wormhole .

Speaker 2

You've traveled to the future and you already know this is coming , and so now you're excited about it . Here's how I know . Here's how I know Bigfoot is driving most of those units .

Speaker 3

Oh , awesome , okay , so as long as Bigfoot's behind the wheel , I will totally take a nap .

Speaker 2

But do you understand ? You understand what I'm saying , though ? Like you're still going to pay for a car and , by the way , if you want a really nice one , there'll be a really nice one that pulls up . So rich guy , whoever he is right , he you pull up in .

Speaker 1

Rich guys like I'm hopping in the Porsche version of whatever this unit is and we're going and for the rest of us celebrities who have so many cars , they're not going to want to give up their six cars for like an Uber type of deal .

Speaker 2

Look , I'm not saying it's going to happen quickly , but I am saying eventually , what you'll do is there'll be a use tax of some sort that'll basically pull these cars off the road and eventually you're just going to have .

Speaker 1

Hey George , george , we sound crazy . I'm sorry , things went off the rails .

Speaker 3

I'm sorry about that . Dad went to . That's happening actually right now . Okay , which is turbulence at our airports , and everybody knows how much I do not like to fly . If you listen to the show for five seconds , I am scared of turbulence . Yes , I am . I'm one of those people .

Well , now there's just been a report by weathercom that's breaking down the top five most turbulent airports in the US . I'm shocked . That list , yeah . My guess is just that it's too small of an airport

⁠œ Most Turbulent Airports in America

um , no , aspen smaller . Oh yeah , smaller okay here we go , denver number one . Not shocking no , denver's when you go into denver it is scary coming and going , yep , and you want a double whammy .

Fly from denver to albuquerque and you can get it on both ends of the stick , it's awesome okay , salt lake city , coming in at number two , las vegas three , which that is so scary , that heat if you landed , or I've had a terrible fight there aspen , scary airport to fly into , I've done that . And honolulu , which I've never flown , oh yeah , we have .

Speaker 2

We just landed in honolulu , not very long yeah yeah , honolulu , because of the uh , yeah so yeah , put the , put the list back up , so else a couple things that are interesting . Air is a behaves like water does , right .

So in other words , when , when the air tumbles over the Rockies right and toward Denver , it's like a wave and it's like if you've ever been in the ocean , you get hit hard by a wave . That's sort of what happens with some of that air turbulence over Denver . It comes rolling off the Rockies , comes into Denver and buries them Also Salt Lake's similar right .

So you have the Wasatch Front there . Mountains are a huge concern . Las Vegas is the heat , exactly what you said . Rising heat in the afternoon buffets a plane . I mean that rising air comes up and slams the bottom of a plane , and so that's why Las Vegas is bad . Aspen is the same thing the turbulent air with the mountains .

It ends up knocking planes around and , by the way , most planes that fly into Aspen end up being a little smaller plane as well . So those get bounced around . And then Honolulu is the rising air from the heat of the day and the storms that form in those showers that form around Honolulu . They can bounce you around too .

So Albuquerque same Albuquerque would be actually a cross between Las Vegas and Salt Lake because you have the mountains there , so we definitely have the turbulence off the mountains , and then we also get the heat buffeting the bottom of the plane when it goes to land .

Speaker 3

My biggest piece of advice , which I think people already know , this as you fly early , just get out of town get out of here at like a 5am or a 6am flight . That's your best start . Especially in the summer , absolutely the problem is when you try to get home . You can't get home at 5am .

So , then you're coming home and you're just like white knuckling those seats and doing all your prayers and everything , which is what I do , but anyway , okay , last little bit that you've you've put in here a little little fun . Is this ai , or is this real ?

Speaker 2

no , this is real . This is real . So this is a thai grocery store and look who comes in for a visit .

Speaker 3

I mean , look at this guy wow I mean he can , why would he even get in ? There's a big old elephant , you guys for those of you that are just listening , so it's sort of a garage door sort of thing that they open .

Speaker 2

So it's wide but he's too tall so he's sort of wedged in there .

Speaker 3

Yeah , he's stuck . He's like Winnie the Pooh when he ate too much honey . Yeah , yeah .

Speaker 2

Now he can't get back this thing out , but just shows

⁠œ Elephant Visits Thai Grocery Store

you how smart they are . Look at him , just drop down . He's like yeah , sorry about that , guys , let me get out of here . And he just kind of works his way out and you can see they're not getting too close to him , cause you know , an elephant can give you the business .

Speaker 3

Oh , yeah , he could charge him .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and he .

Speaker 3

I bet he didn't even do any damage really , because he was just kind of oh you think , I think the roof .

Speaker 2

He's thousands of pounds . What do you think he did to that floor when he walked into that ? What do you think that floor is like ? I don't know . You think that floor underneath him right now is like yeah , no problem , I got it . It's a couple two-by-fours spanned with a two-by-six or two .

Speaker 3

You know that will be a little member . People come in and take their picture saying this is where the elephant's beautiful , though he's kind of impressive . Yeah , that's an impressive situation , thailand things whenever you watch any of the videos of the grocery stores in thailand . Yeah , you get alligators .

You get elephants , monkeys I've seen monkeys coming out of the ceilings . Yeah , I don't think I'd ever shop if I was in thailand but yeah , yeah , he tore up the floor .

Speaker 2

You can see him just kind of okay , all right .

Speaker 3

Well , it could . He did not get any walls down , no no , no , he was feeling is still intact .

Speaker 2

Yes , sort of yeah , he's as gentle as he could have possibly been , he's good , he's good .

Speaker 3

I like the elephant . I'm on team elephant all right okay I'm always . I'm a team elephant person of course you are , of course , I am sorry . Okay , well , thank you so much for joining us .

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