¶ Up or Down
You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right . Well , I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right . There's only an up or down . This is the no Doubt About it . Podcast .
No doubt about it .
Now your hosts , christy and Mark Runcetti . Welcome back , mark . Well , thanks , it's great to be here Back in town . Yeah , christy and Mark Runcetti , wildfire , you can't get us out .
Welcome back , Mark .
Well , thanks . It's great to be here Back in town within about an hour ago and now we're hitting the show .
That's right . We're going to do our best at this . You were up in Angel Fire in the Northern Mountains today .
We are working on , yes , various other little things that we'll have more details on in the weeks to come and , of course , one other thing we're going to have on Monday we're going to talk healthcare . We're going to have special guests talk about healthcare . It's going to be interesting stuff . Somebody with an inside view is going to be really cool .
But this show is more of a grab bag just all kinds of interesting things that kind of caught our attention throughout the past few days , Although we're getting a little bit of the producer stink eye from .
Ella right now she's tired .
She's at the end of her rope .
Well , I think most kids are starting to like fizzle out because it's towards the end of the school year and they're just like . Their last projects are due , their finals are coming . They have tests before finals .
Oh man , I always love the end of the year , long days . You got field day .
Field Okay , end of the year Long days you got . You got field day field . Okay , listen , guy , it's not fourth grade right now . Okay , it is , these guys are in high school but they have field day , do they not ?
They do have field day we didn't in high school , we just had it in elementary school .
You were praying that they still had field day in high school .
I would sit up the night before staring at the ceiling waiting to figure out how I was going to smoke . Chris candon , I mean , that's how it was going to go .
It was going to go down that way like the fact that he's one of my best friends , but it didn't matter yeah , you're gonna take him out of course I was gonna take him like if you were in high school at field day , you'd be elbowing everybody out on the sand volleyball court .
Oh sand volleyball would have been back to back to days of thunder or even back to top gun . You know , I mean , you're out there and you're highway to the danger zone . You're out there doing what you got to do . Are you playing volleyball in jeans ? Well , yeah , no shirt , yeah .
That's how we did it . No , it isn't how we did it . You skied in jeans in Vermont too , guy .
Or what . No , but we could have . Yeah , you could have .
Oh , it .
She's like I'm not even going to talk , I've got a project due , she's telling us . Well , no , she had like a home out of office . Like she won't even speak to us about it , she goes right to Ella's out of office and we can't get in touch .
No , she's like you're lucky , I'm here to do the show .
That's basically , and I'll talk to you on the weekend . Leave me alone .
Yeah , no , whip through them all various shows , okay . So it's gonna kind of be popping around , but first one comes from love . The boys says how did you ever lose the election ? It's beyond obvious . We need your ideas and willingness to fight for what's right .
I couldn't agree with you more I love it when my dad sends us emails . It's fantastic . Okay , it's very nice . Thank you very much . That it means a lot , especially all the kind words . I do appreciate the .
Atomic Mom . She's talking about this one , the story we do with Carrie Lake kind of flipping her side on the abortion issue , right , and so she said she , meaning Carrie Lake , has done more damage to the AZGOP than any other politician in my lifetime . I even grew up in Arizona during the Evan Meacham fire Symington era when it was completely crazy .
I think a lot of ours have convinced themselves . You know , basically the only way to win is to kind of flip the issue kind of thing , yeah , to capitulate .
Yeah , yeah . No , I understand the point in that it's going to . It is going to be a case study and how to handle things or not handle things , lake , and how she's dealt with the abortion issue .
President Trump to a lesser degree , but Carrie Lake really , really went out there and went pro-choice when she was allegedly pro-life , so we'll , we'll see what happens with , with how that ends up shaking out . Yeah , only time's going to tell . It's going to be one of those things .
We're going to see how it all shakes out here in the next few months , right when that primary is done . Yep .
Um , okay , sue , sales says hi there , love the show . Y'all just so normal and informative . Thank you , and God bless you . God bless you too , sue . We appreciate those nice comments and then the blogged in bunch . Right , this was funny . This was in response to our girls teaching us slang .
Okay .
The Z generation , generation Z slang Right . So she's talking in that . She said come on chat . That was a total L regarding the it Girls t-shirt . You never said if it ended in a W .
So go ahead and explain a quick explanation on your shirt .
Oh , the shirt . Well , the shirt was . I lost the shirt . I talked about losing the shirt , ella . We thought- .
Your favorite black shirt . You lost it is my favorite black shirt .
It's not like of any material value , it's not like an expensive shirt or anything like that , but it's my favorite one , ella , we thought Ella left it at school , ella was .
Ella was absolutely just laid bare over this thing because you said listen , you lost my shirt at school . Ella then says you know I , maybe I did . You convinced her of it , basically .
Well , no .
I tore apart her room with her and we couldn't find it here , right , okay . So Christy shreds Ella . Ella then believes she's done something wrong . Ella says maybe it ended up at Savers because at the end of every week at school they go to Savers . So , being the maniacs that we are , christy says take me to Savers . So we go to Savers on the West side .
Christy looks through all the black t-shirts at savers , comes out fired up saying my t-shirt isn't there .
My t-shirt isn't there oh my gosh , I didn't . You're so dramatic you make this sound absolutely . This is like your shirt ewing oil . It's like you're creating a soap opera about me and my shirt . That didn't actually happen .
But yeah , I think hey , have you ever missed , lost something and you went on the hunt for it at , like Goodwill or savers or those things ?
Okay , so she turns the house upside down . Everybody is accused in the house . There isn't anyone that gets away with it . Poor Ella is literally in the police department crying and writing a confessional confession letter , except for , oh guess what , Guess what was dancing around all along in the laundry room .
It was not in the laundry room . I will say that I tore that apart too , but it appeared in the laundry room , that's all I'm going to say All right . I don't know how it appeared .
Yeah , I don't either , so maybe next time Don't blame me on this one . Stop lighting everybody up .
In the meantime , let's just say that it mysteriously showed up in a very empty laundry room .
Okay , so now Christy is blaming again . I'm not blaming anybody . Who is she blaming ? It sounds like you could be blaming our other daughter , Ava . Is that true ?
I'm just going to plead the fifth right now out of respect for my kid you can't plead the fifth for someone else .
Oh , I'm pleading it for myself .
I'm pleading it for myself . You can tell I do a lot of court stuff Right ? I'm really big on that . Okay , but anyway , yes , so it was it did end in a win Cause I got my shirt back .
Okay .
Anyway , that was ridiculous Um .
Sam Cerna says we have open borders . This is back to our when we were talking about the cartel coming in . He says we have open borders . We will get attacked from within the US . We've forgotten what happened that September morning . We need people like you with a good agenda to prevent childish stuff that's been happening over the past three years .
That's very nice , sam , thanks , but look , I think enough people in this country are realizing what's happening here and it's my hope that we're going to change direction on it . Gosh , I hope so too .
Richard Taylor wrote in , said thanks for the report on Israel . This was our show from last week or from Monday . It said I was praying , but I don't watch the news , so it's good to know that they were protected .
Okay . So this is what was interesting , right , and there's definitely a spiritual portion of this . I think that we fall on those lines too . I think this country has a unique role in helping to protect the nation of Israel and I think we've taken that role seriously and I think presidents from both parties have cared about that and done a good job .
But I want to get to one thing in particular on this , and that is that . So I was looking through the Wall Street Journal as we're getting ready to go and they had an interesting couple of different interesting articles .
But one was on the fact that , as we go back and look at the technology that was used a couple of days ago to make sure that 300 rockets , while launched directly from Iran to Israel in an unprecedented provocation not one of them that we can tell hit Israel , or at least not unmolested , all unmolested all the way into Israel , you know , made pieces of it ,
may have , may have hit places and stuff like that . Well , if you go back to what Ronald Reagan talked about in 1983 , it kind of came to fruition , which was , everybody remembers , the Star War . We talked about Star Wars at that time and that was kind of the derogatory name that Ted , ted Kennedy used for the Strategic Defense Initiative , excuse me .
And what that is is the Strategic Defense Initiative . Was Reagan basically talking about shooting ICBMs out of space so that if Russia launches one to hit the United States , we have basically an iron dome of our own , before any of this came to reality here over the past few days ?
So this was something Reagan was talking about in space shooting them up in space , which now what we've got is a bit of a hybrid system . A lot of it's surface to air , but still his overall mission of making sure that we can protect either ourselves or our allies from missiles that come from another country .
That came to fruition , and the story was interesting in what it said . And it said in 1983 , president Reagan , in a televised speech , proposed what he called the Strategic Defense Initiative . Its core idea is that the US would build defense systems that could shoot down nuclear armed ballistic missiles from the Soviet Union .
Democrats and much of the defense establishment mock the idea , with Ted Kennedy calling it Star Wars . So what did Joe Biden say about it ?
He said Star Wars represents a fundamental assault on the concepts of alliances and arms control agreements that have been buttressed with American security for several decades and the president's continued adherence to this constitutes one of the most reckless and irresponsible acts in the history of modern stagecraft or statecraft .
Well , of course , once again , joe Biden is exactly wrong and he's the one who benefited from it . He's the one who benefited from Reagan's vision to look out and say we need to have this type of protection and it's got to continue to advance
¶ Reagan, Economy, and Political Engagement
. So , single biggest reason that Reagan is my favorite president of our lifetimes and of all time , because he was a great communicator . But number two , he was very clear in the things he thought .
He thought we need to have better national defense , we need to give people more freedom and more power over government versus government power over people , and he did it all the time . And then the results of his presidency are undeniable .
They're unmatched still , really . I mean , I still think he goes down as the best president in our lifetime .
Oh , it's not close , it's not even close , it's not close in our lifetime and I think he's top five all time , yeah . So whether you like President Reagan or not , or whether no matter what party you're from , it's hard to argue with .
When he came into office , he took over an economy where you had gas lines , sky-high inflation and interest rates that were in the double digits . We had the Soviet Union , which was closing in on us , breathing down our neck . Now , exactly right , exactly right . And that economy as a whole .
We were getting crushed and by the time he left office , the Soviet Union was toast . We had the best , strongest economy in the world and the strongest national defense in the world . That we have not given up since . So it is hard to argue that list of accomplishments . It really is .
Yeah , we need another Reagan everybody .
Yes , yes , we do .
Okay .
Okay , so the economy . So where are we on the economy ? This is interesting . Numbers keep coming out , so here's some of the latest stuff we're talking about here Growth , inflation and interest rates . I just wanted to kind of put all this into a bow and to give you an idea of what some economists are saying . Now , what are we likely ?
to see Right , because they're saying , hey , it's getting better and the economy's great and you don't need to panic anymore and everything's great . And then we're not so much feeling it here in our pocketbooks .
Right . And the question becomes what's happening with things like growth ? Ok , we're seeing good growth . Why is that ?
And the biggest reason we're seeing significant economic growth is the fact and most economists agree with this is that we're seeing a ton of government spending , so government is pumping a ton of money into the economy and that economy is continuing to grow .
So you say , okay , economic growth is fine , but that economic growth is happening because we are putting government money in the middle of it , right , and that's what's really fueling all of this . So the question becomes how much does that really help us ? Right , if it's all deficit spending , government money ?
So another thing they were looking at is the labor market , and they say that job gains have also far exceeded forecasts , but possibly owing it in part to the immigration-fueled increase in population . Economists still expect a slowdown to come imminently , if only because business have exhausted the pool of available workers . So that's interesting .
Are we seeing an influx of more people working ? I didn't know that people that were here through immigration are counted in that . I guess I don't know why ?
Well , sure , if you own a business and you add 10 jobs , they don't know who's filling those jobs . They just know that you've added those to the roles , and and so that's an issue . It's interesting . So if you look at the total amount spent , that's going up because of government spending .
Some of this is fueled by by people coming in and filling these jobs , and then , beyond that , there's also inflation and the inflation portion of it has stayed stubbornly high because we continue to pump in a tremendous amount of government money , of course , there's no doubt . So the Fed wanted to , by raising interest rates , bring down inflation .
They've had trouble doing that . They've done it to some degree . Economists , however modestly , have increased our 2024 inflation forecasts even before the latest hotter than expected price data . So again , you're still pumping a ton of government money in , so we're still seeing prices stay high .
So that's why I think , when we look at this whole picture and we say why do people think the economy is worse than the numbers suggest ? That's what I'm getting at with this story .
And it is because government money is fueling the growth and then potentially , new people to the country , whether here legally or illegally , are filling a lot of those jobs Right , and so that's an issue as well . So inflation remains pretty high . So it's you know this is going to end up being , I think , one of the biggest issues in the campaign .
Right , but we'll see if things anything gets lowered . Or you know , we're seeing the hey , let's remove college debt . You know , debt forgiveness , all that stuff starts to trickle back in . It's an election year .
It's going to be interesting to see if there's any other major changes that we actually , you know , if there's any other major changes that we actually you know Well and I think you will see more of that sort of thing . That's a giveaway , because Biden understands that . That's where his votes come from .
Right .
It's just straight giveaway , yeah , you know , to his voters by votes , yep .
Okay , so , speaking of , like , who's involved politically these days , this is a pretty interesting story . I think that some of you out there will appreciate just this information , because I thought it was pretty .
It was not what I expected , actually , and so this came through Twitter and it said friendly reminder that the group that is the most politically engaged is atheists . Now , this is a survey that was done .
Ryan Berg did it . Yeah , yeah , Ryan .
Berg did it and it says atheists engage in about twice as many political activities as evangelicals , Because 50% of atheists made a political donation in 2020 . And then out of the other group , it was only 26% .
Let's put up the graph and you can see this . This is an interesting graph because you'll see Now , what you see here are these little circles , and if you're just listening , we'll explain it Basically .
It goes from the right-hand side of the graph , most politically engaged , all the way to the left-hand side of the graph , most politically engaged , all the way to the left-hand side of the graph , least politically engaged and this is what you're talking about .
On the right , most politically engaged by far are atheists and those who are Jewish they're next , and then you keep going down , and then Ella , if you just kind of focus in on the left-hand side of the graph unclassified folks , white Catholics , muslims , white evangelicals , mormons , orthodox Hindus , so they went through a bunch of different faiths here .
But notice , the farther left you go , the less engaged you are . Well , if you look at , say white evangelicals .
Hispanic evangelicals and black evangelicals or Protestants . In this particular case they're far less engaged than those who are atheists . That just kind of surprises me . They're far less engaged than those who are atheists . That just kind of surprises me . And I wonder are they just so fed up that they think it doesn't matter anymore ?
Or I wonder what the thinking process ?
is behind that . On the religious side , yes , on the shifting back .
But if they think , well , we've done what we can do , or I don't know , I just think it's frightening .
But you see it all the time . When you go to churches , when we would campaign , you talk to pastors who say half the people you're going to talk to in this room aren't going to vote . And you go are you kidding ? Is that really possible ? And it happens all the time . And in fact , when you look at an atheist , they are very engaged .
And then if you look at where they tend to cast their vote Ella , number 17 , they tend to cast their vote . And let's just pull this up a little bit here and you can see the numbers . They are 69% of atheists fall in the Democratic Party . Some yeah , 17% basically have no lean . And then Republicans about 15% of Republicans are atheists .
So that shows you where this goes and where some of the parties go when they try to figure out who they're talking to and who their base is . And you see that .
And so I just think something we've always talked about that that folks of faith , whether it be whether you be Catholic or Protestant or whatever you know , it doesn't matter , but you have to be engaged , and I don't care how you're engaged , get engaged because your values matter .
Right and we've got a country . We , and here locally , we have a primary coming up June 4th . You know , hopefully people are actively getting out there to vote for your state legislatures , to put cast for your state senator , the folks that are running for state Senate and the folks that are running for US .
Right , well , right . And those now , those won't be involved in the primary , but it will be , Right , neither one of them do .
But yeah , absolutely the primary , but it will be , in general , right , neither one of them do . But but yeah , absolutely , we really need people to get involved .
Whether it's the June 4th primary , which is coming around the corner , um , to be able to vote for people that you want to see in our state legislature , that would be very important for you to show up for those kinds of things . Um , it doesn't take much to get involved , especially registering to vote .
Uh , I do see some churches still having people register inside their foyers and getting people involved that way , so I take that as a very positive thing . I don't think it's regardless of party get involved .
¶ Political Party Loyalty and Hollywood Tragedy
But don't forget this whole thing has flipped in the respect that it used to be low-propensity voters , voters that vote , say , only in presidential elections . That used to always favor the left Democrats , and now that's totally flipped .
In fact , an article from the Colorado Springs Gazette talks about this that Republican voters now are the ones who tend to be more reliant on the low propensity voter , the voter who will only vote for president , for example . That tends to be a better election for Republicans . Republicans , then really need bigger turnout .
Where it used to be , you know , democrats would always benefit . The more people who voted , that benefited Democrats . That's no longer true . Now it is the more people that vote that benefits Republicans . They have the lower propensity voters and it used to be .
The Democrats were the party of the working class voter , lower educated and maybe didn't show up to polls as much . It's completely flipped to . Now Republicans tend to be the party of the working class voter . Democrats tend to be the party of the higher educated voter . So these things are sliding back and forth . And what were the rules at one time ?
They aren't the rules .
Right , and that's why I always ask people like I really wish we could just rename the parties .
I know we can't do that , but it is interesting that if you really ask people , why are you a certain way , like why are you Republican , why are you independent and why are you a Democrat , or why are you not involved , if you actually start listening to them , a lot of them is just like this is the whole lives . My great-grandfather voted this way .
I'm voting . It's just kind of interesting because it's all changed so drastically that really the parties don't even really they're not really recognizable at times by the people that were originally voting 20 years ago in those parties .
So anyway , I just think , I think you're exactly right , but trying to get through and teach people and have people pay attention to that seems to be more challenging nationally than I had . I just didn't think . I thought more people would get involved , I guess .
Well , but they're busy . Things are drowned out If you look at where the sources are of information . There aren't these sources of information , you know you can go to . It's trickier and trickier now as it's broken down into more partisan leanings and we're going to have a story on this in a second from like NPR , for example .
A lot of people used to when I was growing up and admittedly I grew up in a pretty blue state but people would turn to NPR from both sides of the aisle , and now that doesn't happen anymore .
Right .
Right , and so people are siloed into these things , where you are completely surrounded by beliefs that reinforce your priors . So , you just listen and you think there are no other sides and you're like , oh my goodness , well , this is clearly how everybody thinks . And somebody next to you is like what are you talking about ? I don't agree with you at all .
And so therefore , we don't cross paths enough and we don't exchange enough ideas and effectively argue with each other enough to be able to say wait a minute , I didn't think about it that way .
And so , because of that , you become more siloed and it becomes more and more difficult , and that that that bears itself out in results from Senate races and presidential races . They tend to stay in line with each other . If a state votes for president one way , they vote for their senator the same way . It is really tough to break that off .
I think eventually it will go back again , but for now , being a senator of a different party than voted for the president of that state is really an uphill climb .
You know , if you talk politics , you feel , it feels heavy and it feels like a weight that you don't want to take on , and I get that . Like you know , the whole don't talk about religion and politics , and we're doing both on our show .
But anyway , we're big like that .
Yeah , we're big like that . But I can understand that people just want to break away from that and they don't want to dive in and pay attention that much , because it's easier to focus on something else . It is and it's probably better for your mental health at times , but I think it's valuable and very important to know enough of the top line items .
So you know how to cast a vote , and you and you keep in mind that it's our job to educate the younger generation to also get out to vote . So no great . But if you , but if you think your faith of any kind means that that you know everybody that thinks like you is out there voting .
They're not means that everybody that thinks like you is out there voting .
They're not , they're not and it's an issue . Well , hollywood is making news rounds here in New Mexico with something that we can't seem to get out from underneath .
Okay , yeah , it's the story of the Rush shooting . So Rush's movie was shot up in Santa Fe a couple of years ago . During that time , and during one of the scenes , alec Baldwin pulled out a gun he thought only had blanks in it , aimed it at cinematographer Hannah Hutchinson , shot her and killed her Right .
So there was a live round in there and there have been trials since , and the first trial was for the armor , the person who's in charge of the gun , making sure that it has blanks in it and in fact it didn't have blanks in it , clearly . So Hannah Gutierrez-Reed , who was the armorer on the Russ set , was convicted .
And she was also sentenced to 18 months , which was the max amount that she could have gotten for this , which is interesting . It's an interesting dynamic that they went really hard on her in a state in which we let a lot of violent criminals get away with things and they don't serve the time or they get out early or whatever .
With this max sentence she has to serve 75 percent of her time behind bars . That's that's the deal with this one , and obviously I understand there was a consequence that needed to be paid , but it's just an interesting dynamic that here's a girl , 26 years old , her family she came from a family of armors and I don't know what the whole gist was .
The one thing that stood out to me on this case that I think was interesting was she brought live rounds onto the set and apparently that's a huge no-no .
Oh my gosh , I can't imagine .
So I don't know if she just accidentally brought I don't know . I , you know , was obviously was negligent . It ended in somebody's life . The other argument now is did alec baldwin pull the trigger ?
And he's saying he didn't because in hollywood which this also sounded weird to me , but I read all this that you , they basically fake pulling the trigger when they shoot on a shoot a gun I can't imagine that the gun fired itself .
But but , but there are a couple other things here . First of all reads part of her issue was the fact that she was recorded on a jailhouse telephone call calling uh , I think , um her attorneys well , yeah , well , yeah , no , but she was she . She called , called the jurors idiots .
Right .
And so I don't understand these people who think they're on the phone in a jailhouse phone call and no one's listening .
Right hey .
I'd hate to give advice to people in these situations , but guess what ? Everybody's listening . And apparently she didn't have a whole lot in the way of contrition for this whole thing during this process , so that could have contributed to the 18 months . But the person who should be really concerned is Alec Baldwin .
He's going on trial over the summer here and one thing I didn't realize and people put out a story on this this is probably going to be a wake-up call for him , because the judge who handed down this 18 months she's also the judge in the Baldwin trial , so he has reason for concern there . There's no doubt .
Now a couple other quick things about this , because I think it was an interesting story , and one of these things that came from the story in people and that is did you know he was offered a plea deal ?
Right .
So he was offered in this plea deal is interesting . Okay , so here's the terms of the plea deal . Under this plea deal , baldwin would have been given six months of unsupervised probation for misdemeanor handling of a firearm and a fine of $500 , 24 hours community service and ordered to take a gun safety class .
That feels to me like more than you know , very easy to do . Now I'm not .
Do you know why it was pulled ?
No .
He was working on a documentary about the shooting oh yes and so they pulled it they pulled the plea because they found out about this documentary yes where he was interviewing people that were going to be in his witnesses and , if he went , if he actually had to go to trial yes , so alec baldwin has a sweetheart plea deal on the line and then decides to do
his own documentary on a shooting that cost a cinematographer her life , and then it ends up , as a result , pulling the plea deal for him . And now he goes on trial Unbelievable . If you're Alec Baldwin right now , I mean how could you do this ? And again , this just looks so calculated . It's brutal .
And now he's getting exactly what he deserves , which is a full-on trial , and he's going to try to make the case that he didn't pull the trigger .
I know , which sounds really bizarre to me . I'm going to think that , yeah , who knows , you have to have film of that . I'm sure I thought this was interesting . In the article it says , she notes that Morrissey claimed in recent court documents that the Emmy winner , meaning Alec Baldwin , has an impressive level of arrogance .
And I won't go into my story , but I've had a minor deal with Alec Baldwin . What ?
do you mean you're not going to get into it ? What is it ? What is it ? You just signed an NDA .
No , no , no , no , but I had a brief encounter with him . I lived in Los Angeles . I had a brief encounter with him . I lived in Los Angeles . I had a brief encounter with him . I knew somebody who worked with him professionally and he lit this guy on fire for no reason . That was working for him professionally and I was a witness to that explosion .
And it was just . I was shocked because I thought , oh , here's this guy that I like in the movies and he has a wicked temper .
No kidding , yeah Like explosive temper .
So the fact that she said he had a uh , an impressive level of arrogance .
That is not . That's really funny . That's actually a really funny character . Yeah , it's like holy moly .
Yeah , you got that right Anyway , so it'd be interesting .
Yeah , We'll see how it takes out uh , with that situation , but yeah , Okay , a couple other things here . I think we're seeing an increasing trend in this country of the type of protests which are hugely concerning for a couple of different reasons . Take you to clip 28 , ella , it's libs of tick tock .
In New York city , a pro Palestinian protester lit an American flag on fire while another protester held a sign reading free Palestine , or else other protesters were spotted waving a Hezbollah flag which again a terrorist organization , that is clear and chanting death to America . This is what the video of that looked like .
And again talk about changes in this country . This is the sort of thing I'm sorry , this is ridiculous .
Yeah , it really
¶ Rising Anti-American Protests
. It's appalling to watch this go down in our country . I feel like I don't know . I felt like after 9-11 , we had this rise again in patriotism and I just have seen it slowly deplete itself . And to see that somebody burning our flag , I thought that was against the law by the way .
No , it's not against the law . You can look , you can have free speech , Okay . But but when you start to have a country where , where you literally have people within your country who hate it , they hate our country .
Yeah , and so get out . Right , and that's my feeling on it Get out . If you don't like what we stand for in this country , get out .
Yeah , I agree and , and , but it isn't just that . So what we've , what we've started to do here , is we've seen more and more of these protests . So the the the latest protest was at O'Hare airport , right after , right after , Iran finished firing 300 missiles into Israel . Naturally , we we would expect that let's stop air traffic at O'Hare .
Right .
Good idea . So so these guys go on a road and they stop this air traffic , basically , or , excuse me , a road into the airport . So people literally had to get out with their bags and go walk the rest of the way here .
Yeah , walk the rest of the way up .
Now this is different . This is different because this isn't free speech , this is you're interrupting the everyday flow of traffic . These people all should be immediately arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law . And it's not just that .
Also , if you go over to San Francisco , they got on the Golden Gate Bridge and they stopped the Golden Gate Bridge traffic as well for hours .
People are sitting there and they do it in New York City . My understanding again is in a protest you have the right to assemble and you have a right to say what you want to say , but it's illegal to take anything onto a highway and block traffic and things of that nature .
So again , why ?
we're not . I mean , I don't know what the cops' response was to this .
I'm sure they were there , but obviously it took hours to clear these guys out . Yeah , miles , miles and miles of backup . This is the kind of stuff if you don't drop the hammer on this and arrest people and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law , like we have in other situations that people love to jump all over right .
Jump on this one and stop this stuff . It's , it is going too far . And you're not just seeing it here , not just seeing it O'Hare or in New York city , but in Bakersfield .
California .
Yeah , this woman is uh she had a lot to say to the city council and to the mayor . She did so . This is she's an anti-Israel protester and she goes up and her name is Reedy Patel . She's 28 years old . She goes in front of the Bakersfield city council .
Now , els , we're going to pull up the sound on this if we can , and we have partial recordings of this . She also at the end of this straight up threatened to kill everybody on the Bakersfield City Council , but here's .
And she uses some serious language . She does .
So in this particular one , I think it was a cleaner clip that we've got here . Let's listen to what R really Patel had to say .
I know that you guys will vote to increase police funding and I understand that you guys are all horrible people , but the thing is 2,300 people being evicted in the last year those are votes , and you guys , those are votes to win here in Bakersfield .
And while you guys parade Gandhi around as a Hindu holiday called Chaitra Navratri , his starts off this week , I remind you that these holidays that we practice , that other people in the global South practice , believe in violent revolution against their oppressors and I hope one day somebody brings the guillotine and kills all of you motherfuckers .
Yeah , and she basically I guess she got all mad later and also talked about that she felt like she was there to yell at the mayor and the city council because they had installed extra security measures like metal detectors in their buildings and that went against the protesters .
And she , well , yeah , and she also said what you didn't hear there . She also said we're going to come to your house and kill you , Like she said that . So she's been charged with 18 counts of threatening a public official all different sorts of stuff and this is the kind of stuff that needs to happen in situations like this . There's no excuse for this .
Why she thinks that she can get up and say this anyway . I can't imagine Like what went on in her head .
Why would she not think ?
that what happens lately to people who do these sorts of things ? Nothing happens to them .
There's no consequence . There's zero consequence . So it's one of those things that has to be addressed , there's no doubt . But we're seeing more and more of this go further and further and further and , believe me , we have a history in this country .
In the 1970s , we had bombings all over the country when people thought they could bomb various installations and various causes , people and locations that they didn't like . Okay , we're heading in the wrong direction on this and it needs to be dealt with , no doubt . All right , one other big story before we get to our video of the day .
Okay , you heard about the story of the NPR . the guy from NPR , Yuri Berliner , Speaking of media .
I don't know what is this Like ? Pressure on the media to do what I need you to do . Don't actually report the news . I'm still trying to get a feel for this guy .
Well , he wrote a 3,000-word article for Barry Weiss's outfit and wrote some interesting
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things . So clip 36 , else it says it's true that NPR has always been and had a liberal bent , but during most of my tenure there , an open-minded , curious culture prevailed . We were nerdy , but not knee jerk activists or scolding . In recent years , however , that has changed .
Today , those who listen to NPR or read our coverage online find something different a distilled worldview of a very small segment of the U S population . And he goes back and he says back in 2011, . Although NPR's audience tilted to the left , it still bore resemblance to America at large .
26% of the listeners describe themselves as conservatives , 23% is middle of the road , 37% is liberal . By 2023 , only 11% were conservative , 21% middle of the road . 67% of the listeners were very or somewhat liberal . So he laments this and says we lost our mission .
We went and jumped on things like the Russia story with Adam Schiff and we believed everything Adam Schiff said , and then , all of a sudden , none of it turned out to be true and we just dropped it and moved on . He goes through a bunch of different things .
Yeah .
So NPR has a response .
Their response was we're going to suspend this guy , we're going to suspend you , which is unbelievable to me , that this is what he has every right . I mean , I understand when you disparage a company .
They might have some sort of you know issue that they have to take , but instead of like responding properly that's what's so ironic about this is basically they're being told hey , you need to lean your stories this way . This guy's coming out and saying this is what we're . You know , we used to be more even , balanced . We're not anymore .
And instead of letting this guy say , hey , you know what , we do need to step back and evaluate the kind of stories we're putting out making sure they're more balanced .
We're going to punish the guy who actually had his freedom of speech . Well , and it didn't last long , because here's the latest headline NPR editor resigns after publicly criticizing coverage . Calls the new CEO divisive .
The new CEO is she has a laundry list of tweets , super activist , sort of things going after let's get the activists all running our media Right I mean on either side of the aisle .
Let's get the activists Cause that's well .
And if you know what you're getting . If you know you're going to go in , you're going to go to MSNBC .
Right .
We know what you are Right .
I get that .
You read the New York times , you know what you're going to get pretty much true , but NPR is publicly funded , right , so there's a difference here and there should be a different standard , but unfortunately there's not going to be . After this , it appears they're going to take the exact wrong lesson , which the right lesson would be yes , let's .
We do have to reevaluate our coverage . We do have to be more balanced . It's going to help your bottom line . By the way , there's a lot of competition in the far left for being far left news organizations , turns out . There's a lot of them , and so you're trying to split a very small pie . It turns out .
If you are able to give a more balanced news product , I think you do very , very well . And again , I don't think there's a single conservative who thinks NPR is ever going to be a conservative news outlet . But anything even touching balanced would be would be a relief . Not going to get that . He's now gone . We'll see where he ends up .
Yeah , hopefully he lands in some great outlet or somebody picks him up and says , hey , we could use some of your side of things too .
Well , Barry Weiss might with the free press . I mean , that's what she's doing there Again . She was at the New York Times , Barry Weiss was .
And she walked away . And she's gone . Yeah , there's a reason that she walked away .
Yes , there is all right , one more story . I gave a little weather nerd for you I know this is pretty crazy .
Have you seen this ?
video okay , so in dubai their average yearly rainfall is about three inches a year .
Uh , two days ago they got five inches and this is in a single day , in a single day , their annual rainfall in one day almost double their annual rainfall almost double okay yeah , and so this is what it looked like at the airport in Dubai and if I'm the pilot , I am freaking out having my plane in that . I mean . So I don't know if they're .
Are they headed away from the gate ? Are they headed toward ? I can't totally tell . I think away from the gate you can't possibly take off there that much water , how are you landing in ?
It's like you're landing in a lake . How do you land in that ?
No , I , you can't . You think you'd hydroplane . I mean you just be like God speaking of hydroplane . Uh , yeah , I mean you could possibly . It's crazy , it's nuts . I mean there's a foot and a half , two feet of water on the runway .
Yeah , that's a crazy amount of rain and it's an impressive video . So if you are just listening to us , look up this video , yeah , go check it out . Yeah , it's impressive .
Just put in Dubai Airport rain and it will be there for you , so okay , so again coming up on Monday , we're going to jump in . A lot of people have written us for months about can we talk about healthcare ?
Yeah , and you know the healthcare situation . People are asking why don't we ? Why is it so hard for us to get into doctors ? Why are we losing doctors , not only in New Mexico , but other parts of the country ? Yeah , and what is you know ? Why is this ?
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