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Episode 69: Night, Night Nikki Turn Out The Lights

Jan 24, 202435 minSeason 2Ep. 7
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We're excited to share a special episode of the No Doubt About It Podcast with Mark and Krysty Ronchetti that's filled with rapid reactions, political sparks, and lively discussions you won't want to miss!

In this episode, we dive straight into the aftermath of Donald Trump's win in the New Hampshire primary. Sparks fly as special guest Mike Garofalo joins Mark and Krysty for a spirited discussion. Mark boldly predicts Nikki Haley's political demise after a loss of more than 10 points, but Krysty and Mike have a different take, arguing that Haley will remain in the race until at least South Carolina, her home state. The tension rises as Mark challenges the likelihood of Haley willingly facing political challenges in her home state against Trump.

The conversation heats up further as we speculate on Trump's potential choice for Vice President. It's a topic that sparks diverse opinions and intriguing predictions.

To wrap things up, we engage in speculation about the Democrats and who might replace Joe Biden on the ticket due to his apparent declining mental health. The episode concludes with thought-provoking insights into the future of the Democratic race.

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Transcript

Analysis of Trump's Win in NH

Speaker 1

You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right . Well , I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right . There's only an up or down .

Speaker 2

This is the no Doubt About it . Podcast .

Speaker 3

No doubt about it .

Speaker 2

And now your hosts , christie and Mark Roncetti Wildfire . You can't hear the sound ?

Speaker 4

Running , running , running .

Speaker 3

Well , at least one person's still running , and it's Donald Trump .

Speaker 5

Well , that didn't come as a major surprise , I don't think .

Speaker 3

Well , it is election night in New Hampshire . This is a rapid reaction version of the no Doubt About it podcast , so we are going to talk about what happened in New Hampshire .

Speaker 5

Yes , and we brought in somebody who is an expert in all things that can talking to us anyway . Right , he's an expert in talking to us .

Speaker 3

Yes , and he's well , he's actually old school newsman . Yeah , when you got both sides of the story , you bring in Mike Garrafalo . That's right , because you want the truth and you can't handle the truth . Mike , oh wait , Can you give us ? Can you give us ? So you can't handle the truth , please and go Give me a second .

Oh sorry , he was trying to you can't handle the truth . Yes , mike , thanks for joining us .

Speaker 6

I do like Jack Nicholson , I gotta tell you . And if you want to call me anything , call me Ernie Pyle , and if you don't know who he is you gotta go look him up .

Speaker 3

Yeah , no , we do . We do know who he is . And , mike , by the way , are you doing this from your bathroom ? I mean honestly , what could you ? Can you mix in a microphone ? That's not horrendous . We need to send you a mic from the note , that's not bad .

Speaker 5

It's a little echoey .

Speaker 3

Is your , your little echoey Mike ? You get a little closer .

Speaker 6

Let me , let me hang on . Let me let me see if I switch my mic here .

Speaker 3

Hang on , okay , see what you can do for us . I mean , my goodness . So what we're going to talk about here is what happened in New Hampshire .

Obviously , for those of you who are paying attention , donald Trump rolls in New Hampshire , wins big and all the networks were jumping all over this and there's no question that this is a big win for Trump 10 plus points . It looks like he's going to end up winning the spy .

Speaker 5

Yeah , Well , I mean I think there was a lot of predictions early on that we're thinking it would be a blowout . That's what I remember hearing about last week or right after Iowa . There was talk of it being 12 to 13 point lead .

The conversation we had , based on some other polling we people were throwing out there was , you know , could she get close , Could she be within a point or two ? And the big discussion we've been saying is she needed to win tonight . Yeah , I think so , or within a point or two , or within a point , which is what I was thinking .

Speaker 3

And that did not happen In fact . So take a look at the numbers here . This is what we have right now . It's 10 plus points . You know don't have everything in yet at this point , but it's a significant win for Trump , there's no doubt , and Mike , you saw a lot of this coming .

I think you you anticipated a pretty significant win for the president , so not particularly a surprise on these numbers from your perspective .

Speaker 6

Well , I got to tell you I was really hoping . I mean , you don't laugh , but I was hoping for at least 20 , 22 points . If Trump was going to really blow it out and be super solid , that's what I was expecting . Anything below 15 , meaning 10 to me is a disappointment .

Speaker 5

Whoa Okay .

Speaker 6

Well why ?

Speaker 5

What's your thinking , what's ?

Speaker 6

your theory on that . The numbers that I reported on today two polls , real clear politics polls that were on there Trump was up by 22 points in each one of those and so , Mike , the electorate there I mean half of it's independent Understood , and then you have .

Speaker 3

Republicans that are a little more of a . You know you don't have the total . You know , make America great again . Contingent , I think , in New Hampshire that you have in some other states . So the fact that it's a 10 point win can't be that big a surprise . All right .

Speaker 6

So I'll give you that . And the reality is this , of course , as you know , if you're a Democrat and you wanted to switch and vote in the Republican , you could have made that decision a couple of months ago , become unaffiliated , and then you could have voted today and it would have happened . So I'll give you that , I guess , a couple thousand point .

You know , votes came in for Haley that normally wouldn't have and they were essentially , you know , democrats voting for Haley because they don't like Trump , right .

Speaker 3

Okay , all right . So we saw these numbers and then we saw Trump as he comes out . So we've got a bunch of sound for you to kind of break down how things went . And we'll break this down and I will say , in listening to Trump's comments kind of a mix , I think , from the former president of annoyance that this race is still going on .

Speaker 5

Yeah , he's a little heated , a little angry .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and then mockery , like he also , you know , which is typical him ? No , he does enjoy a little bit of mockery . So let's go ahead and just take a listen to a little bit of what the president had to say after rolling to a 10 plus point win in New Hampshire .

Speaker 1

Like a speech like she won , she didn't win , she lost . And you know , last week we had a little bit of a problem and , if you remember , ron was very upset because she ran up and she pretended she won Iowa and I looked around I said , didn't she come in third ? Yeah , she came in third . And then I looked at the polls .

She was talking about most winability , who's going to win ? And I had one put up . I don't know if you see it , but I have one put up . We've won almost every single poll in the last three months against Crooked Joe Biden .

Speaker 3

Almost every poll Okay , so annoyance .

Speaker 5

Yeah .

Speaker 3

You know from the , from the president , saying , look , and I've had enough of this . So , mike , does that attitude surprise you , or is he ready for this thing to be over ?

Speaker 6

He's definitely ready for this thing to be over . The attitude doesn't surprise me , but what did surprise me was Iowa .

Nikki Haley's Presidential Campaign in Jeopardy

Donald Trump , down to earth , super kind Guys , comments for everybody on Iowa . I was hoping to see the same guy tonight . I did not . Yeah , no , I think that was a rarity . We kind of it was a rarity .

Speaker 5

It was a . It was kind of a he was . He just seemed so mellow in that situation and I maybe it was because he fully anticipated he was going to blow everybody out with that and he just took a . You know , took that time , but it's a . It's a . Really it's a rare moment to see a calmer Trump .

Speaker 3

Well , yeah , and thank you everyone .

Speaker 6

Do you know how many people he could ? He would have people from the other side of the aisle or independence he would attract if he had that . You know manner on a regular basis in Mike .

Speaker 3

I think some of what's happening here is the criticism of him from Haley is becoming sharper and it's hitting home a little bit in the respect that I'm sure it is . It is Hitting him in a way that he is not okay with , and that's the age stuff , and we'll get to it in just a second . But . But Haley first of all .

I think , all things considered here , we'll get to what we think Haley is gonna do here in a second . But but here's what Nikki Haley had to say in her comments Is this race over from Nikki Haley's perspective ? Here's what she said .

Speaker 7

Now you've all heard the chatter among the political class . They're falling all over themselves saying this race is over . Well , I have news for all of them . New Hampshire is first in the nation . It is not the last in the nation . This race is far from over . There are dozens of states left to go , and the next one is my sweet state of .

Speaker 3

South Carolina . Let me just say actually not the next , but okay for Nikki Haley . It is over . And here's the problem . It has nothing to do with dozens of states that that continue to have their primaries . Nikki Haley is going to be out of money . We talk about it all the time .

That that's what cuts these campaigns off , and you hear them say every time on election night it's not over , we're moving on . We've punched our ticket out of Iowa , like DeSantis said , and turns out he didn't punch it anywhere . He got punched out . And it's the same thing with Nikki Haley . There's a good chance . She's never making it to South Carolina .

It's a month away from now . She's not gonna have the money to do it . This race is over in the form in which we currently see it and there's no way back for Nikki Haley .

Speaker 6

Whoa . Do we have any idea what her cash on hand is ?

Speaker 3

I don't know , but she doesn't have a month worth of it , I can guarantee you don't think you can raise enough in the next 30 days or what ? Well , that's a fair point . So what's the case that you make to your donors that we've got this ?

You lost the state , that you had the best chance to win because you had independence , you had a softer Republican Party and you had Democrats , that that it could have had the opportunity to cross over , as Mike said , if they registered early enough . Okay , that's the most fertile playing ground You're gonna get .

You're gonna go to South Carolina and it looks a lot more like Iowa than it does New Hampshire . So there is no path forward here . With her sliding through and getting more votes . I mean again , she can get 25 , 35% of the vote . She can't get 50 .

There's no path forward , and so that's gonna be the issue for her and donors are not gonna throw , you know , good money after bad .

Speaker 5

Well , okay , but what about ? Isn't I mean , I could be wrong on this . I feel like I heard today that 25% of Republicans still do not want to support Trump , so you don't think that's any sort of no , because 25% doesn't stack up to the other 75 .

Speaker 3

Who will ? So that's why it's over . I mean it is , it is toast . No , that's right , you good , you look coffee . Right now . You'll look like this is the opportunity to bring mom's Mike down while she coughs up a lung , and then we'll bring her back up again . All right , now we're back . So , mike thoughts , am I too ? Am I too strong on that ?

Am I coming in too hot ?

Speaker 6

I Well you know , yes , I think she is good . First of all , she's gonna find some money in the , in the in the coming weeks that's my prediction Okay and she's gonna be able to gut it out for another two or three months . In my opinion , super Tuesday .

And the reason I say that is because she's looking at this like what if something happens to Donald Trump with some of these lawsuits ? What if ? What if he is just taken off the table ? So what , there needs to be a number two , and that's me . That's what she's saying .

Speaker 5

I think Mike's right because honestly , and that would be enough , I think , to get money from donors because there is a real possibility that Trump may be in real you know yeah , but that's .

Speaker 3

That's further down the road beyond these primaries . She's gonna get shellacked in every one of them until then .

Speaker 5

I know , but Mike is right . We're in an unusual set of circumstances where Donald Trump is being indicted , and so it's like that's not really normally what's happening to somebody who's running for president .

Speaker 3

I agree , but it's a new .

Speaker 5

It's a new territory and I can see Republican donors wanting to make sure we have somebody on the ticket .

Speaker 3

Well I that's fine , but the problem you're gonna run into is you don't have the money to do it . I mean , desantis could have made the same case . Hey , wait a minute . Something could happen to Trump , okay , but you don't have the money and no one would give them the money .

Speaker 5

DeSantis also had to go back and be a governor .

Speaker 3

I mean , well , that has nothing to do with whether he drops out or not .

Speaker 5

Oh I , think it does , I think it does . I think you , when you know you got to go back to work and actually be the governor of your state .

Speaker 3

Well , they know you got to go back to work . Like that's news to him . Like he never would have run if it was a big issue that he was out of the state and he had to go back to work . They're like where's Ron ? Well , it turns out he's running for president . Like everybody knows that she's out of money . There's no way around that money for sure .

Speaker 5

You don't know . I'm just saying you don't know and it would be interesting to see if this does fire up anybody out there . I mean , I think it's telling even the next couple of weeks what she does . We you could see a resurgence and people that want to support her .

Speaker 3

Did you see DeSantis's comments on election night in Iowa ? What were they ? I've punched my ticket out of Iowa , correct , right ? Guess what ? No , gone , didn't punch his ticket out . Every candidate says that they say we're moving on to South Carolina . It's my sweet home state . You're down by 40 in South Carolina . You're not going there to get smoked .

She's not gonna do it . Okay , she's got to pull things back . She realizes look there's , there's a lot still on the table for Nikki Haley . She's 51 years old . She's got an opportunity to do some other things . I don't know how that's all gonna shake out . I don't think she's gonna be vice president . We'll get into that , but overall she's got a bail .

So , mike , there's no way it gets there . You and Christie and I are betting a steak dinner . She's gone before South Carolina . I'll take that bet .

Speaker 6

I'll take that bet you will , I will , all right , and then we tell you why . Okay , I think she's hanging tough . I think she's gonna put this campaign in in slow , in low , and she's gonna plod forward zombie campaign . Listen , listen to this Okay , she's just gonna stay there , she's not gonna back out .

She's gonna stay there because she thinks and , and she's gonna get some money . So she's gonna not have a lot of it , but she's gonna gut it out . And then at some point she's hoping something happens to Trump . So she's the something if something happens . Candidate that's what I'm naming her right now .

Speaker 5

Well , and the thing is is she does claim quite a bit that People underestimate her and she kind of , and she plays the long game she I've heard her say that in numerous speeches .

Speaker 3

Yeah , you know you don't play the long game in presidential politics when you're out of money . There is no long game . The runways , you don't . There's a brick wall there and you're like listen .

Speaker 6

It's done . If you check , if you , if you would , if you check cash on hand . Before we started this , okay , you told me that she had see you million dollars . I'd agree with you .

Speaker 3

Mike , I can tell you right now , in a presidential campaign like this , she poured every dime into New Hampshire . She does not have a special war chest waiting for South Carolina . What you do is you take the momentum from New Hampshire . You then raise money off of it to run your campaign in South Carolina . You have no momentum going out of New Hampshire .

You have no money in South Carolina . The race is over . I have one question for you .

Speaker 6

Yeah , what happens if Trump can't be the candidate ?

Speaker 3

now . That's different , because I still think you're gonna have to do a total reset then . And then you're gonna have to ask the question . You're gonna have to get a candidate out of the convention . That's different . You're gonna have to have a brokered convention , mike . But that doesn't matter what's happening now .

Just because Nikki Haley stays in the race , she can't stand up and say guess what ? I'm the candidate . And then you get to the convention . Are you kidding me ? There's gonna be a Donnie Brooke to end up being the nominee .

Speaker 6

So this I agree with you All bets are off and and . But I don't think that's gonna happen on the Republican side . That's gonna happen on Democrats . We'll get to that in a second .

Speaker 3

All right , I will get to that in a second in this next clip . Ava , clip 6 . This is interesting and I want to touch on this because , mike , you have been somebody who's been really , really out front on this issue , and Nikki Haley , as they like to say , and one of Ben Shapiro's favorite lines said the quiet part out loud .

Speaker 7

Let's hear this most Americans Do not want a rematch between Biden and Trump . The first party to retire it's 80 year old candidate is going to be the party that wins this election .

Speaker 3

Is she right , mike Nope .

Speaker 6

And I'll tell you why Because if you try , legitimately , think about it for just half a second , a millisecond

Importance of Biden's Replacement and Trump's VP Pick

. Don't compare Joe Biden to Donald Trump , mentally or physically , don't even go there .

Speaker 3

Okay , you may not go there , but but the point with Trump is different than Biden , I would agree with you . I don't think it's a . It's a mental capacity issue with Trump . It's not even close between the two . I completely agree with that .

But there's a big portion of the electorate in which it takes that portion meaning the center portion of the electorate , those moderates that it takes to slide over to your side that you have to have to win a presidential election .

You cannot win a presidential election on a base election if you're a Republican , in most cases just very difficult to do , and so you've got to have some of those people in the center , and those people have decided on President Trump and what they think about him , and so I think the point she's making is , if you end up with one of those scenarios where he's

convicted of something , then that hardens even more and this becomes a tough race on the other side . I think you're right . I think I think the Democrats are going to replace Joe Biden . They're going to replace it at some point , and so when that happens , you know , are they then the favorite to hold on to the White House ?

Speaker 5

Yeah , I would say it's more . It would be more obvious . That line that she said I think would apply more to the Democratic side than to the Republican side . I Think that that's the only way the Democratic Party can win is if they replace Joe agreed .

Speaker 6

Let's for all intents and purposes . I'm sorry to say this , but Joe's already been placed .

Speaker 3

Well , no , and look , I agree with you and Mike , you said from the very behind the scenes I didn't think he was gonna be the candidate . So fine , let's just say for a minute that we carry this forward and you end up with either Gavin Newsom or you know Great Gretchen Whitmer or heck , god forbid , michelle Obama . Okay , steps in somehow , some way .

You still believe Trump's the favorite , not necessarily . No , right , right , right . So her point is a pretty good one , that's what you just made .

Speaker 5

My point . I think if they replace Biden , they will win .

Speaker 6

Yeah , is my there only chance at winning is replacing Biden . Let's put it that way .

Speaker 5

That's .

Speaker 3

That's a better way of framing that I still think it's a coin flip if Biden stays well , if it's Biden Trump , oh no no , it's not .

Speaker 6

Um , come on , look what he's done to this country .

Speaker 3

I mean this is , but but still you can still hear people like .

Speaker 5

We've run into people . We've heard people that will say , yeah , I have to . It's again , it's this , it's a , it is a repeat of 2020 . It's I'm not gonna vote for Trump . So whoever it is on the other side , that's who I'm voting for . Yeah .

Speaker 6

And what are they watching ?

Speaker 3

CNN and MSNBC no 27 or 7 but they have a visceral reaction and look Trump , don't get me wrong . Trump's team much better than it's been . Trump , therefore , has been better , right and so . So if he could continue to make steps along the way again , maybe , maybe not , but his campaign is very competent , okay .

So let's , let's talk about then , let's , let's move here , because we , because this race is over . So when you look at where we go next , I know you guys are both sitting there like .

Speaker 5

No , it's it's over .

Speaker 3

So at least in its current form it's over . And it's like keep saying like something big is gonna have to happen , either at the convention or or something From outside will change the complexion of race . I do believe that and he's gonna happen one way or another . So what about Trump's pick for VP ?

Now Some people are making the case that could it be DeSantis Haley . Whatever Trump has actually gone out and said over the past 24 hours , it will not be Haley he . He said it . So I take him to the bank on that . But Brett Bayer asked him About who his VP is going to be , and President Trump in Trump fashion . This is very funny .

We'll listen to it first and then we'll comment on it .

Speaker 1

An idea , or you might have already decided about your VP pick . When do you think you're gonna make that ? Well , it's never really had that much of an effect on an election , which is an amazing thing , both election and primary . It's never really had much of an effect . I may or may not , really something over the next couple of months .

There's no rush to that . It won't have any impact at all . The person that I think I like is a very good person , pretty standard . I think people won't be that surprised , but I would say there's probably a 25% chance it would be that person . The senator , tim Scott on the list now . No , he's a great guy . You know , he endorsed me .

There's an example Nikki comes from South Carolina . Tim Scott Is from South Carolina , but if you look , the governor , great governor , another senator , lindsay . We happen to like Lindsay , but Henry McMaster knows her very well . He endorsed me . It's very hard for a governor to endorse Somebody when you have you know .

I mean Henry McMaster was the lieutenant governor under her and he endorsed me and he's gonna be here tonight in 15 minutes . You're gonna be watching him speak . I'm gonna introduce him . He's a great guy , he's done a great job . So everybody .

Speaker 3

So okay , so he discounts the importance of a VP . So this is so classic Trump , right ? So so Trump is like listen , VP doesn't matter , I matter . So let's not go crazy here and be thinking the VP means anything right .

Speaker 5

So whoever the VP is , they must feel like a million dollars , whoever gets selected by the guy .

Speaker 3

Well , you don't want someone who's gonna take this , take the limelight right . First of all , you know that going in right . You know Trump doesn't share the limelight and Trump isn't gonna be like , hey , you know I'm gonna feed you in here and you're gonna , you're gonna be the next president after me , or stuff like that .

That may happen Eventually , but make no mistake , trump's like look , this position doesn't matter , people don't vote on it , you know , and in the respect that they don't change their votes on who the the vice president is . And then number two if you think Trump Is going to name his vice president in January or February or March , you're crazy .

He's gonna tease this thing out for months and he's gonna right crumbs all over the place and and Eventually , at the last second , he'll announce it in the most show-stopping fashion Imagineable and then he'll say that person again doesn't right .

Speaker 6

You're right and you know why what's going on right now ? It's because he didn't interview in the last couple days where he said he knew who his vice presidential candidate was gonna be , and that Shifted all the attention to the VP and he realized he blew it and so he's backtracking . That's exactly what he's doing right now , and you're right .

There's no reason to throw this name out there now . He's gonna let this thing run . He doesn't need the attention on that . I'm throwing three names out there for you Kristi Noem , tim Scott , marco Rubio .

Speaker 3

Okay , Kristi .

Speaker 5

It's gonna be a woman . I Can't . I would be floored if Trump picked a guy . Yeah , I'll be honest about that . I think I don't know who it's gonna actually be , I'm a little lost on that , but I I just think it's gonna be a woman . I mean , it's interesting .

On our , on our show we've been talking about , you know , would Nikki Haley be the VP candidate and what's ? The comments that came in were great . I mean , it got people riled up , holy moly . You guys are all worked up , but okay , filibuster , let's go .

Speaker 3

What do we get ?

Speaker 5

I'm not filibustering . I don't have like a definitive name . Is it gonna be ? No , I don't know . I have my own thoughts on that one and I'm not gonna just throw those out here .

Speaker 7

But I it's a little inside baseball .

Speaker 5

I just don't think it's gonna be her . Okay , I don't think it's gonna be no . Okay , I think it's gonna be a female .

Speaker 3

I tend to agree with Kristi . I think it's a absolutely going to be a female and I think it's either gonna be listophonic from New York oh , it could I .

Speaker 6

I think you're right . I yeah , I'm with you on that one . I think that's a definite possibility .

Speaker 3

Yeah , or Kristi Noem , or lease yeah , or or Potentially like no , no it won't be . Katie Britt , alabama . Yeah , she's a wild card . She's a wild card and if you've ever seen her speak , excellent , she's really sure yeah , and Carrie Lake was another person that people were throwing out .

Speaker 5

I just don't think it's gonna be Carrie Lake , because she's running for US Senate now . She's in it and he's thinking , if I win , I need her to be in the Senate . So I think what about ?

Speaker 6

you know , what about Blackburn ?

Speaker 3

or Mace . No , mace is a Mace is a squish , there's no way . And then Blackburn . I don't think Blackburn gets her anything . You know what I mean ? I mean I like , well , yeah , he's gonna win .

Speaker 6

To see any how right .

Speaker 3

I don't think it gets him now , not that Alabama gets him a lot , but Katie Britt said as a unique talent , I think I really watched her much . I need to my gosh go watch her . Do yourself a favor and watch her . She's a really good , she's really talented .

Speaker 4

So yeah okay .

Speaker 3

So there's a reason you guys are cocky about Biden , alright , and then we're gonna show you some numbers as to why . Here , as you know , we'll get you out of here on a few of these , and and this is interesting so Joe Biden's numbers are Historically bad , okay . So how far back do they go and how bad are they ?

Well , if you look at some of these numbers , they go back as far as the Eisenhower administration . Let's just start , though , with how

Comparison of Presidential Popularity

things look . You know Joe Biden's popularity compared to where Donald Trump's was at the same time in his presidency Okay , trump 42.8% . Same point in his presidency Biden 38.9 . So Trump was more popular than Biden by four points . Okay , keep it , put it back up , babe . And then we go . Bill Clinton , oh sorry .

Speaker 5

It was .

Speaker 1

Obama , the one before there you go .

Speaker 3

You're good , that's all right . Hey , we're rolling here , we're doing this way .

Speaker 5

We have Exhausted , don't even sweat Obama .

Speaker 3

Obama 45.5% when he got ready for reelection and Biden again 38.9 to seven point difference . Next , george W Bush he was at 53% , almost 54% at this point . Biden obviously way behind that . Bill Clinton 10 points ahead of where Biden is right now . You keep on rolling . George HW Bush he's about 8 points better than where Biden is right now .

Ronald Reagan , the legend , clearly 14 points better on his way to an absolute rolling victory .

Speaker 5

This is what shocked , me . Carter , yeah , carter , jimmy Carter .

Speaker 3

Yeah , it shows you that that election year , as things continue to slide with the economy , as the Iran hostage crisis blew up right , so that's a great point you're making , though , because- .

Speaker 5

The economy was so bad .

Speaker 3

Well , the economy , and then how much things can change in a year , right , right , oh yeah , that election year . So it's a really good point that you look at the Carter numbers and think , oh my gosh , jimmy Carter was going to roll the reelection . Yeah , nope . Got destroyed by Reagan for a variety of reasons .

Speaker 5

But he's still at 53 . Yeah , he's still at 53 , and again against Biden's 38 .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and then Gerald Ford . I don't exactly understand where that went with that one , so I can't imagine that Gerald Ford was doing that way . Obviously he lost his reelection .

Speaker 5

Nixon beats him . Oh , Nixon was- . Lyndon B Johnson beats him . Hold on , Remember .

Speaker 3

Nixon rolled the reelection and , in their infinite wisdom , they decided to break into the Watergate Hotel . When they had a massive lead , but whatever , that doesn't matter . And then he get down to Lyndon Johnson . Obviously he's 9 points better . And then keep on going , aif . And then we go John F Kennedy . He was that didn't put numbers in , for .

Speaker 5

JFK they just did a line and it was way higher .

Speaker 3

Looks like around 50 plus percent for JFK , and then Eisenhower holy cow .

Speaker 5

I mean Eisenhower . This is kind of ironic to just to look back at all this , he by far had the highest approval ratings of any president at this time in his presidency .

Speaker 3

That we're looking at , yeah , and then Truman is the only one who drops below where Biden is right now . So , mike , historically , here the numbers are are ugly .

Speaker 6

Yeah , and , by the way , if you haven't read a book up on Eisenhower , you need to read one , because the guy was solid . Yeah , he really , really solid . But back to Biden's numbers . He said 30 . That's numbers saying 38% . You know what this hardcore Democrats that are saying yeah , they like what he did . I'm sorry , but the real number is like 20 .

I mean , come on you got to be kidding me .

Speaker 3

You know , mike . Here's the interesting thing , christie , I think one thing about the Biden numbers that are low , right , so they're very low to begin with , and then he does not have the ability to go out and make his own case . He can't do it Right , he can't go out and sell himself .

Speaker 5

I don't think he's going to get more . I don't think he's going to go up . I don't see him going up in popularity or availability .

Speaker 3

The only thing that can happen for him is circumstances have to carry him up because he cannot make the case himself . So the economy has to improve , you know , the border situation has to be solved , like a bunch of these things have to happen for him . Well , I'm not saying it is .

I'm just telling you that his only chance is an outside convergence of events that lift him up , because he's effectively unable to make his own case .

So he's sort of like a buoy that sits there and goes up and down , he can't make the case and he can't move numbers at all , and so , therefore , it's going to be events that are going to help him or sink him , and right now they're sinking . And think about this , for a second .

Speaker 6

The stock market numbers , which obviously have been incredible , have not even helped him . Okay , right , well , no , it's typically a leading indicator .

Speaker 3

Well , yeah , you can look at your stock portfolio and that's doing okay . And then you look at your bottom line and you look at what's happened with inflation . You're getting killed week to week .

Speaker 5

Yeah , you can't in your small , like your actual home fund that you're trying to save up just with what you pull out of your paycheck , when you're trying to maybe save 10% or something to that degree . But I think that's harder on Americans right now versus the stocks that they have in there or the money that's taken right out of your paycheck and your 401k .

That's a little different .

Speaker 6

So yeah , let me throw this out there for you . I watched a clip today from a reporter . Okay , he goes , he was at one of those states that you know with the primaries . I don't know if it was New Hampshire where it was , but bottom line he's like well , you know , inflation was that 9% and now it's at three .

I mean that's such garbage that I'm sorry it goes to 9% and it's only going up . I mean it's never came back .

Speaker 3

Yeah , it is , it is . Look , they've tried very hard to rehab him and that won't work . Real progress is the only thing that could save him , and I don't think he has the ability to get there Okay .

Speaker 5

Wait , bo , we have Mike . Mike , do you have any theory on who would replace Joe ? Who are you saying right now that the party , the Democratic Party , is going to put in there ?

Speaker 6

I mean , without a doubt , pete Buttigieg . Oh my Lord , no , ok , the same , let's see . Sorry , sorry , just keep you know . I think , Mayor Pete , you know righted by a school around the corner .

Speaker 5

I was going to say you're the only one that's saying that's going to happen .

Speaker 6

I'm not saying that's going to happen , that will never happen . I will say that you know , I don't know , I really don't know . I just say I don't think it's going to be Gavin Newsom , after I think he kind of imploded on the against the Santas on the screen on Fox on Hannity . But I don't know , it's I , it's just not going to be Joe that .

But I can say with , with definitive certainty , and if I'm wrong you'll come here and we will .

Speaker 3

I'm going to go on a cruise . We will know we will humiliate you on this show endlessly . Ok , so Don already turned in focus to the to the general election and he's in his bag , going after Joe , and he did it tonight .

Speaker 1

Before the big comes . Do you see that , paul ? We're going to put it up . We have beaten Biden . You could almost say who can't ? Who the hell can't ? The man can't put two sentences together . He can't find the stairs off a stage . Who can't ?

Speaker 3

So he's going after him , there's no doubt . And so one last thing , and , mike , I wanted to , I want to put a cherry on top for for both of you guys for this . We want to end with Nancy Pelosi . Nancy has decided to check in and take a swipe at Trump .

Well , as she talks about not wanting to reference Trump's cognitive problems , she she displays her own cognitive problems . Take a look at this .

Speaker 4

Say I'm not going to spend too much time on Donald Trump's cognitive disorders , but I what I am going to say and I want to in friendship , say to Chris he tried to say that Nikki Haley did not allow the National Guard to come , but it was Nancy Pelosi . It wasn't need nobody , it was Joe , it was Donald Trump .

Speaker 3

Joe , but yeah , okay , man , I mean honestly , look at this , what we've got going on now . I mean we've got leaders that can't mean you got Biden . Do the good public , come on , I mean , speak some English , work with me here , Goodness gracious .

Speaker 5

I think I mean I'm not defending anybody , but I can't get my kids names straight and we only have two . Yeah , and I call them the wrong names . I call them each other all the time and they're like mom , are you going to ever stop doing that ? And I have no idea what my brain does that .

Yeah , but I'm like sorry , nope , you're gonna be Eva or Ella or Ella . Oh no , I mean Eva , but it's every day .

Speaker 3

But again , you're just spent the past 30 seconds referencing God someone else's cognitive disabilities or disorders or whatever , and then all of a sudden you can't spit it out , and she's had plenty of those moments , yeah , as well . So it just shows you , I mean , it just gets back .

So , mike , we'll let you kind of put a bow on things here while we get out of here , but just kind of shows you that Haley comment is a cutting comment and it's finally . You know , it's really out in the open now , and so you know what will happen with it , who knows . I think Haley's campaign is over .

But overall , mike , your thoughts on where we are .

Speaker 6

You know , I think I'll give you the that New Hampshire situation for Trump . I guess a 10 point win for somebody like him in New Hampshire is not bad . I was hoping for 20 . I mean , if he was going to impress me I wanted 20 , but whatever , all right , he looks like he's going to win by 10 . Great , okay , I think Haley's gonna .

If she sticks it out and hangs it , hangs on through South Carolina . I mean , I think she could hang on a lot longer if she gets some money , like I said , but let's just say she gets destroyed in South Carolina , I could see her walking away at that point . I don't see her walking away before South Carolina .

Or if she does , she's going to realize I'm going to lose by 40 points in my home state . I better get out now if I'm going to have any career left .

Speaker 3

That's right and that's why I think , either way , she either runs out of money or realizes no one's going in to stick their head in that wood chipper Not happening . I mean , I think you've been very clear on what you think . I think Nikki Haley will be in South .

Speaker 5

Carolina . Yep , okay , I mean , I don't know that for sure , but I think , if you don't , hear that she's backed out . In the next 72 hours I would count on her being in South Carolina . Okay , Dave , can you just give us one more thing where Mike and Christy , what can't they handle the truth ?

Speaker 3

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