Episode 67: Another New Mexico Gun Grab?

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So in the last couple of episodes I don't know if you guys have noticed that sometimes , like if you're watching on our YouTube , like a thumbs up shows up over like Mark's face or some of our guests or something like that , and we were like yelling at Ella about it , yelling at Eva , like stop putting the like thumbs up on on the video , and the girls were

like we had nothing to do with this . We don't know how this is happening . So we researched . It Turns out it's a new setting . Yeah .

Double thumbs , little Trump , double thumbs , then you get the fireworks .

Well , right out of the chute , the governor comes out and tries to give her state of the state address and turns out she had some helpers that were commenting while she was trying to give her speech and protesting as well . Let's take a listen to what that was like at the roundhouse on Monday . Okay , so what you're hearing ? It was a dual protest .

Okay , part of it was people supporting Hamas and then part of it was a climate protest . So , Ella , do we have number one ?

That's what that stands for .

So you know , what ends up happening is and this is what I tweeted about it , right as it was all sort of going down and that is that when you invite this kind of chaos in your party and you accept it and you welcome it in , it never stops with just people , you know , just protesting one party . It always comes after you .

So what I said was no party can be built on the oppressed versus the oppressor culture . That's what this is . People that go and support Hamas believe that Hamas is oppressed and that Israel's the oppressor , even though Hamas , when it goes in regularly and in the most vicious way possible , slaughters women and children , I mean in the most vicious way possible .

But they're the oppressed , so they can do whatever they want because everything is justified . So no party can be built on the oppressed versus the oppressor culture , which is , I think , what's happening right now in this country . It comes for everyone at some point .

A party that runs cover and makes excuses for a historic anti-Semites will eventually be consumed by them , and that's , I think , what's happening right now .

So I think there's a huge portion of the population , not only in the state of New Mexico , but of the country that is made up of , you know , democrats , of Republicans , of independents who understand how dangerous this is for the country that oppressed versus oppressor thing and giving a pass to anyone who you view as oppressed and you don't care what they do .

They can do whatever they want . They can get , they can . They can shut down bridges , they can go and attack people across the world and slaughter them at will because they view themselves as oppressed .

That's incredibly dangerous , and I think what you start to see here is in the roundhouse , you see a group of people that come in and they go and end up in a , in a protest , standing up , screaming . You see it all over the all over the country and all over the world . These guys are getting in front of bridges .

They think they're entitled to go , do all of this and to me , I think we've grown accepting of this , and if you're somebody who is of either a Jewish heritage or Jewish faith .

I think what you're seeing here is the open anti-Semitism of people that are completely ignorant of the real facts and that's why I say a historic , because when , when you go and call the Jewish people colonizers , which is what they do , and they've been there for 3000 years before there was such thing as a Palestinian , it's absolutely nuts .

It's you know , they're doing what they want to do , right , they want the exposure , they want to create chaos . It's just and it's pathetic because if you really , like you said , if you look at the heart of this , it is . It is so racist , at the very core of being a racist . That's what this is .

Now , if this had been a group of MAGA protesters , you would have seen everybody talking about this . This would have led every single newscast . Nobody would have stopped talking about it . It would have been . This is out of control . This has to be dealt with .

But because it was the Palestinian protesters , pro-hamas protesters who literally had they gotten through those barriers and they started going for the White House , do you know what would have happened ? They would have been mowed down by gunfire . Right ? Thankfully they didn't get to that point .

Thankfully , that would have been horrendous , okay , so if we keep letting these things happen and we keep letting protests continue to escalate without people being held accountable , it really is . It's frightening to see .

If you think that this is having impact on what Israel is doing to defend their country , you're moron , like I'm sorry , but you're moronic about this .

When you do this and you give cover to people and you have groups that do things and you don't treat them equally , you don't go after . You know certain groups . If you protest and things don't go well , well then look out right . They dump on you Other groups .

Boy , you can try to break into the White House and they won't say a peep about it Right , they won't mention that and that hurts the country so , so badly . So I know we get on the media all the time , but they are so bad at what they do because they're so slanted and they're so incompetent that those two combinations prove to be very , very dangerous .

And if it continues , I don't like where this is going to go , because that lack of accountability hurts everybody . It hurts everybody and makes everything dangerous .

because the media is not telling the truth about it . And now we're seeing some of the media come out with it and it's dangerous and scary and people are starting to wake up . But it is the job of the media , in my opinion , to tell the facts .

Tell the facts , tell what's happening and leave the opinion and the context , which is what some of them , even locally now , are saying . We're going to give you context to a story . No , you're not . That's not your job . Not your job to offer context . That's our job , because we're not the news , right ?

We're a talk show , basically a talk podcast , and that's very different than straight up news . Straight up news should not be offering context , in my personal opinion .

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done to curtail crime , and one thing the governor has said that came out , and part of this was increasing penalties for people who use a gun in the commission of a crime . Good call , great call , bipartisan call that I think will fly through .

But if you're going to go try and ban weapons across the board in the state of New Mexico , some of what we've seen is effectively what will happen here is there'll be a total new gun ban in the state of New Mexico for all intent and purposes . That's what some of these bills look like , which is completely out of line .

It's basically saying we're not going to solve the crime problem , but what we will do is we're going to take guns away from law abiding citizens and we're going to make sure people who want to buy a gun can't do it in the state of New Mexico , because , I'll tell you .

Most of the crime that is committed in the state of New Mexico is committed by people who have either stolen their gun or not registered their gun , who have not done it through lawful means . That's just a fact . That's not hard to figure out . So go after those people . Instead , you're going after law abiding citizens and deciding . You know what .

We're going to take the gun from you why ? Because I want to make a political statement instead of solving a problem .

You're not going to make this state any safer by going and telling people who lawfully own their guns register their guns , have a concealed carry permit where they have additional training by telling them you don't get a gun anymore or you can't go buy a gun anymore , beyond the constitutional ramifications , which it's totally unconstitutional to , by the way .

But the fact is so many New Mexicans are buying guns now because they don't feel safe . So the answer from our government is no , you won't and we won't solve crime either , so stick it .

We've collected so many guns and we've put so many people behind bars . And da , da , da , da , da , da da . How many of those guns were by lawful gun owners ?

Ok , that's what police should do , and they do do when you allow them to do their job . So that's the part of it . That's crazy is when you start announcing things that are part of your normal course of work and then you're sitting there batting yourself on the back . Look , I think there's an opportunity here to to to help with the crime situation .

I really do . I just think that we're not likely to see that in this particular case . And this is just it . When we have politicians who are more interested in making political statements than they are about actually solving problems , this is the problem that we get .

So it's important that we stand up and say wait a minute , let's solve the problem that we actually have , which is crime . But if you look at the wording , the governor put together a , an editorial in the journal .

And if you look at some of the wording in this journal editorial unbelievable language here and one of them is this there are political forces who will oppose taking these weapons of mass destruction off the streets .

We've wondered you know how in the world are you doing some of the stuff that you're doing ? And you see things like this . So , look , these problems can be dealt with , and I think they need to be dealt with . Clearly , I worry that that's not going to happen , but we'll see .

We're just going to try to inflame this whole thing and make this all about politics . That's what this feels like to me .

On that , a promised news release announcing her candidacy never materialized . Late Tuesday . That ain't good , yeah ,

okay . According to the bio on the Lannell Foundation website , domenici has spent much of her career in the business world on the East Coast , while also serving on nonprofit boards for organizations that focus on education , healthcare and the arts . She is an undergraduate in law degrees from Georgetown University .

She was born in Albuquerque and moved to Washington DC after her family and her dad , pete Domenici , was elected to the US Senate in 1972 .

But this is classic New Mexican , which is oh yeah , she never , she never even issued a press release . Oh , and , by the way , she hasn't lived here since 1972 . She's not really a New Mexican . That's what they're saying in that paragraph , which , again , nella will have a chance to defend herself and then put together a good campaign .

Yeah , absolutely , and Ben brings a different set of experience , and we'll talk about these guys going forward too as we head throughout the primary . But , yeah , absolutely , ben's been out there , he's been , he's got a social media presence and he's been someone who's been talking about issues for years , as a matter of fact , and so we'll watch that .

Yeah , yeah , manny Gonzalez , he's , he's thrown it in former Bernalillo County Sheriff and there'll probably be a couple more before all of a sudden , oh , I imagine , I imagine so mostly what ? happens with it . But as I read that I was just like , especially when we talked about a story where the New Mexican went after us .

You know , it's just when you get the Santa Fe New Mexican , I mean you just kind of go , you roll your eyes , is it a huge deal ? It's not , because the New Mexican does not have necessarily a huge footprint , even in the , even in the state of New Mexico , and you wouldn't expect in Santa Fe you're going to get a real safe shake on this whole deal .

And it says the bill authorizes account to temporary to take temporary jurisdiction because a child has been unable to obtain gender affirming healthcare or gender affirming mental healthcare . If you disagree with this as a parent and you use your parental rights to help guide your children , they can be take that .

The state now can come in and take jurisdiction over your kid if this bill passes .

What this is so infuriating to me about is that we've been talking about this stuff kind of off and on parental rights , how important it is for us to be fighting for these parental rights , why it's important to be talking about bills that come into things like our state right , which have been coming on and on and on .

When we talk about it on the show , there's just some fresh media that comes out to try to tell people that we're just trying to drive fear right , that we're just driving fear mark .

And she this is with a quote from her from her article that said , some of the fears are being circulated by figures like Republican Mark Ron Kedde , an unsuccessful gubernatorial candidate in 22 and US Senate candidate in 2020 , saying children of any age , including 12 year olds or five year olds , can get sex change care in New Mexico without their parents being

notified . He and his wife asserted on a podcast they host which is absolutely true , by the way . Yeah , we didn't assert anything . We explained what the bill said . We had experts that came on about that bill , that we're fighting that bill and we're discussing it and trying to pass that information on .

If you try to pass information on , we're not giving you , we're not extremists , we're not out there trying to create havoc . We're trying to pass on information because parental rights are absolutely threatened . They're being threatened and if you think they're not , you better wake up as a voter and as a parent . They're absolutely taking place .

In one of those examples and you can look it up and we we happen to have the story from NBC on this show , and this is some of what's going on . So this gets to the other angle , which is some of its parental rights , and some of it is when parents go and they take their kids headlong into this .

That's the other side of this and that's why I so disagree with Chris Christie . And what's happening in Ohio , where you say , well , you just leave it up to the parents . No , you don't just leave it up to the parents . I think what you do is you wait till a child is 18 and they can make that call . That's what we're saying .

So if you go and have a parent that's pushing a child to start to do either any sort of reassignment , whatever it be , whether it be through chemical means or whether it be through surgical means , I think the best thing to do is wait till that child is 18 years old and then they can make that choice . But you have two different parts of this playing .

In some cases parents were moved from the decision process , and all of this in another part when the parents drive the process . So we go to clip 13 . And the story that we talked about in all of this was from NBC News , and that story is family with trans kids increasingly forced to travel out of state for their healthcare .

A couple of poll quotes from this story , just so we're very clear with people like Elise Kaplan who say this sort of thing is not happening . Quote number one take a look right here and talk about this little boy who now they call Flower , who apparently wants to be a girl , and the mother is Jenny Lynn . And they set off on a trip , unsteady but hopeful .

They bought a care plan from Indiana University and then they found out maybe Indiana is not going to allow this story . At the time , the pair worried whether Chicago providers would meet their request for full support or as a backdrop of Indiana's or a backup of Indiana's ban if it went in place .

In other words could they go and get all these treatments in Chicago that they couldn't get in Indiana ? Okay , the next set of quotes . This , to me , is what is terrifying , okay . This is why I think this is partially parental rights and then partially , maybe , in some cases , protecting kids as well . And here's that second quote from this particular story .

Jenny Lin recalled asking early on whether her daughter's gender expression was permanent . She wondered if she had failed as a mom , especially while pregnant . Was it an incorrect food amidst vitamin ?

Ultimately , she and then Chris I guess that's her husband dismissed those theories as ungrounded in science and listened to their daughter , who recalled the euphoria of wearing a princess dress at an early age . Flower cherished little red riding hood capes and felt certain of her identity from the start .

You have a child who likes to dress up and all of a sudden , now that child is having gender reassignment surgery . So this is happening and the number of people who are going back on what they originally thought they wanted to do or felt like they were pushed into it these things are exploding .

So that's why we bring them up and to sit there and call people extremists . And , by the way , mom's a liberty mentioned in this article from Elise Kaplan .

You know parents are being cut out or , in some cases , parents are running headlong into this , and I think the simple solution to this is what we said from the very beginning is when a child is 18 years old , then they can make that call Right , but I think before then there's too much happening in so many vulnerable kids , especially kids , especially kids of

things like autism , like girls with autism in this world are very susceptible to this and that's something we're very sensitive about . So to sit there and think that you can just push a kid into something or you can cut a parent out of something is incredibly dangerous to me , and that's exactly what we're seeing .

So that's why we talk about these things and that's why it's important to at least educate everybody on what's going on .

And that's a dangerous situation , because I do not think that our teachers and our counselors and even our school nurses know the ins and outs of all of that , especially for the thousand kids or more than that . It's just not their role or their responsibility in that capacity .

So I just think we absolutely should be talking about this as parents , without question , and I just think you know we're told , even as parents , like hey , don't jump the gun when your kid is saying they want to do that , I don't want to go to college , or I don't want to do this , all the things that your kid says right , because they're developing and their

brain's all over the place and they've got a lot of hormones going , all kinds of things . Let the kid have the freedom to speak to you about things at the dinner table and your job is to guide them right and to help . Okay , let's talk about this and let's see why you feel that way about this , but , all in all , most people aren't really fully developed .

Their brain is not fully developed . Women it's like 25 , I think , and men is even longer than that . So maybe we let kids be kids and we don't make permanent , life-altering choices for our children .

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And so what's interesting here with this is you know how close will it be ? Haley needs to win . She needs to win in New Hampshire and I don't think she's going to , but she needs to .

And if you look at the Ella Clip 15 , you can see from the 538 poll numbers . We just kind of show you where the poll numbers are across the board . I think broadly here I think Trump's looking right now at somewhere between a 10 and 12 point lead .

I think that's where he's at and you can go check out 538 and and you can see what some of these numbers look like . But but you know , have Trump at 50 and Haley at 34 , and then one has them both at 40 , you know who knows , you know where it's at Trump at 44 , haley 28, . You know 45 , 31 , trump . So we'll see how it shakes out .

So Jamie Diamond is interesting because he's one of the real kind of financial leading minds in the country . Right Runs one of the country's largest banks and they're in Switzerland for the what is this thing ?

The World Economic Forum right WF , and so he had something very interesting to say about Trump voters and I think it made a lot of sense and I think it's pretty instructive , I think , especially for people on the left . Listen to this .

He grew the economy quite well . So , you tax reform worked . He was right about some of China . I don't . I don't like what he did .

I said China virus , he may have been ready and I don't like how he said things in Mexico , I don't like but he wasn't wrong about some of these critical issues and that's why they're voting for him and and I think people should be a little more respectful of our fellow citizens and when you guys have people up here , you should always ask the why Not ?

Like it's a binary thing . You support Trump , You're not supporting Trump .

The world economic forum . For those of you who don't know what it is , basically it's , it's a group of people who , uh , they kind of gets into that . The ultimate elitist of elitists , right it's . It's exactly the opposite of of what your kind of you know um individual liberty person stands for . These are the elites that decide they're going to run the world .

They don't care what country you're from . This is whole amorphous one . You know one group of people who thinks they're the smartest people in the room and they want to run the world . Basically , right .

And so the way they want to run the world is through , not individual liberty , but through collectivism , through socialism , through , basically , they hand you what you get . And so president Millie had a few things to tell him , and he told them right to their face and drove it down Main Street .

Unfortunately , in recent decades , motivated by some well-meaning individuals willing to help others and others motivated by the wish to belong to a privileged caste , the main leaders of the Western world have abandoned the model of freedom for different versions of what we call collectivism .

We're here to tell you that collectivist experiments are never the solution to the problems that afflict the citizens of the world . Rather , they are the root cause .

It's the individual over the collectivism . When you say to yourself , what's wrong with collectivism ? There's nothing wrong with a group of people getting together and trying to look out for each other , but the collective group is never more important than the individual . The individual liberty is what made this country great .

It's very easy to fall into that trap to say I want to be part of the collectivism . That is devastating . That is what ends up taking your rights , stripping them away and leaving you with nothing . Those individual liberties are something we all have to fight for .

I don't know how people are waking up to that and they're like they're just looking out for everybody . They're looking out for my healthcare , they're looking out for me getting my Medicaid . They're looking out for them . No , they're not . They want you down here and they want you to stay uneducated and dependent on them .

They can stay up here and they can tell you what to do .

There's no doubt All right . One other thing , and I have to say I don't know if you've seen this clip this is infuriating to me .

This is an event in Iowa that Rhonda Sanchez did a few days ago , just before the Iowa caucuses , and so if you haven't seen this clip here , it is Everyone . Governor DeSantis , I want to present to you this participation trophy Now , probably not going to win the election , right , but we're proud of you for trying .

And for you to walk up in your little clown shoes and try to hand him a participation trophy and call him a snowflake , it is ridiculous . And I'll tell you , when you think about running for office , the days that concern you the most by far are not the days when you're in the general election , going toe to toe with the person in the other party .

What scares you the most is when you go into those rooms and you end up with your own people yelling at you when you guys have the same values or at least you think you do and when anybody decides to run for political office , what they always think of in their head , especially if they run before , is do I have the fortitude to walk into rooms and get

into fights with people that I'm supposed to agree with by far ?

The primary is a much tougher process always than the general election , and this is why and guys like this are why Clowns like this , who don't even belong in the same room as Ron DeSantis , going and handing him some stupid trophy , and it just makes me so mad because Republicans do it to each other all the time .

Your opportunity to show that is when you vote .

Which is why I don't like the fact that I don't even appreciate the fact of Trump making that picture of Haley Like it's unnecessary . It creates that kind of like hey , it's okay to bash the other candidates . It's not okay , especially not in our own party . Like cast your vote , be supportive of those that you want to support . Get behind those that you want .

To Write a check . If you want to Go to an event for somebody , make a phone call , get a sign , all of those things , but to take a personal attack against somebody who's running for office , you've never done it and unless you've done it , you should just keep your mouth shut .

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Her name is Marie Rogerson . She's the executive . She's on the executive board of Moms for Liberty . So welcome , Marie . Thank you so much for joining us today and being able to kind of give us some guiding light and some help and some encouragement as parents in such a tough situation .

It is so infuriating to see that a group of parents who gets together and decides that they want to have a say in what happens in their kids' lives are suddenly turned into extremists and people have . You know , we've talked about what's happened at school board meetings with the Biden administration and things like that .

Well , in the Albuquerque Journal , marie , there was an article a few months ago where the Southern Poverty Law Center was quoted talking about you guys , talking about your group , where they called you an extremist group .

Now I want to give you a chance to talk about how ridiculous this truly is , but I think what's important to start with is people need to know , when the Albuquerque Journal goes and prints this , like the Southern Poverty Law Center is actually able to be an honest broker and assess extremism , when they themselves are one of the most extremist groups and agents of

chaos in the United States . It's staggering . So , just so you know , the people that are calling your group extremists , the Southern Poverty Law Center , are for defunding the police , therefore no cash bond , catch and release and therefore sanctuary city policies that are tearing apart the United States .

Now , just so you know , defunding the police and the no cash bond , that's the sort of stuff that has been devastating in the state of New Mexico . The no cash bond has led to a tripling of the homicide rate in Albuquerque , and we are one of the most violent states in the country because of it .

So , marie , when you hear all of this and you hear some of these people say these things , does it kind of give you this thought of like , hey , you know what , we're on to something and we're doing the right thing .

I mean , I opened an article this morning I was reading it that talked about the fact that it was seemingly the Biden White House that reached out to them to help them go against extremists in our country domestic terrorists , as they would say and to know that you know it's okay to have an entity out there .

That's job it is to look for bad things that are happening in our country right , that's totally okay . But when you are doing a coordination with , potentially , the White House or other political interests , you have to just call into question the motives for what is going on there .

And anyone who wants to call a group of a grassroots group of moms , like Moms for Liberty , extremists does not understand pecans , because there's nothing about advocating for your children and trying to get them to have the best education . That is extreme , that is basic , that is fundamental , that is normal .

, absolutely so . Moms for Liberty was founded in 2021 . Tina and Tiffany are two founders . Both of them served on school boards . They saw behind the education curtain , as they like to say , and they understood that there were policies and things that were being put into place that were harmful for kids and harmful for families .

And so , in 2021 , they launched Moms for Liberty . I came on board really very quickly after they launched and the three of us started . Honestly , we didn't really know where we were going . We knew what we wanted to accomplish .

We knew we were out to save America by unifying , educating and empowering parents , but we had no idea how quickly it would grow and how fast it would move and how many parents would be involved at this point . So Moms for Liberty has grown into 300 chapters in 48 states . We have 130,000 plus members and they we are a grassroots organization .

Tina and Tiffany don't sit at our national organization and orchestrate everything that happens . They are the guiding light of our organization , keeping us on mission , but the Moms on the ground determine what is going on in their school districts and those are the things that they tackle . That's not uniform .

We do see a lot of similar things going on across the country , but a mom in Albuquerque may have a very different issue than a mom in Florida , for example . And so those Moms in our chapters are able to identify those things , advocate for or against the things they need to see and get things done .

But what are you seeing are the battle lines that you look at and say we have to be paying attention to this Because if we let this continue , it's going to get to a point where it could be untenable . What are some of those issues that you're most concerned with ?

But the fundamental principles behind those things that are the problem , that are the , like you said , the through line across everything is a completeness , regard for parental rights and a lack of understanding about the real purpose of public education . When our children can't read , it doesn't matter what else is going on .

We are failing as a society and we are failing as parents because we are not preparing our children for adult life . We are not preparing them to be good citizens . We are not preparing them to be able to defend the principles that make our country great .

So to me , the number one through line is the fact that our children are not learning to read and that parents , when they step up and say something like my child's not learning what they're supposed to be learning , instead they're learning all these other things that are hot button issues . The parent is silenced and no one takes them seriously .

Talk about what those meetings are really about .

Sometimes we have larger chapters and they have much more organized , massive meetings .

But generally speaking our chapters meet once a month and their job is to go over their school district agendas , see what the school district is voting on and meeting about that month , and then they get to the community on those issues and the things that sometimes get hidden in the agendas and then they decide their best course of action .

Often these moms find so many issues that they have to prioritize because you cannot take on all the things all the time . So a lot of what our chapters do and our chapter leadership specifically have to do , is identify the most important things first and tackle those and then move on to the next and the next , and the next Sounds like an extremist group .

And it's also something too that in we've seen people from across the political spectrum jump on this as well . Have you noticed that that more and more you're getting other people that are saying wait a minute .

You know , I may have fallen into a different political party than than many people that might show up at a mom's for liberty meeting , but then they realize wait a minute .

Especially with the advent of COVID and what happened and how much parents were removed from the mix , have you seen this thing expand beyond , maybe , what you thought it might have originally ?

And even though many of our members belong to a one party or another , most of our people are not what would you would consider a political person . They often are not registered to vote . When they come in and join mom's for liberty , if they are registered to vote , they don't have a great habit of voting in primaries .

They tend to be the average American voter who generally only votes in the presidential elections . So there is a . What we are activating in our monster liberty chapters are is a younger demographic than the typical political sphere , and it is a group of people who don't necessarily want to be political .

Generally speaking , most Republicans and Democrats are angry at their parties , with no one really likes the parties . That's why the independence are going so rapidly in our country , and so it is a group of people who don't want , are not focused on the labels . We are non partisan , we don't really care if you're a Republican .

We don't really care for your Democrat . What we care about is parental rights . So if you are willing to stand with us on those issues , come what may be you can be purple , green , yellow , blue , I don't care just come and fight for our kids .

So you're coming into town to do a seminar starting us I believe it's all day Saturday here in Albuquerque and you have kind of pitched the idea that it's important to get involved in things , not only to come to a meeting . But maybe folks out there are thinking Should I get involved in the school board ? Should I ? Should I run for city council ?

Should I support a certain kind of candidate ? Should I just actually volunteer at a candidates forum or program , or should I hand out signs , whatever ? Talk a little bit about what the seminar is going to be and who it's for .

So the genesis of this seminar actually goes back several months into 2023 , when we did some initial campaign training with a group called the leadership institute out of DC , who's purpose it is to increase the number and effectiveness of conservative activists , and we did that training and it was great .

But we took out of that training that when you are teaching people to run for office or to run a campaign for people , that is a small segment of the population , but the principles of what you're teaching about effectively messaging something work when you are a candidate and they work when you are a mom who just wants to talk to her neighbor who may not know

what's going on in schools .

We re kind of rebranded these seminars into what we're calling winning workshops , and the purpose of those workshops are to teach people to win , whether they are running for office , whether they're helping a friend run for office or they just want to win the hearts and minds of their next door neighbors , because the principles of civic engagement are the same and

they are . There are effective , time tested , proven strategies for winning in these types of arenas , and so that is what we're coming in to talk to people , about encouraging them to get involved , encouraging them to take a step

forward . It's terrifying to run for office , but even if you go into it and you know you don't ever want to run for office , you can be an effective mouthpiece for whatever it is you care about in your community , and that is what we're there to teach you to be as effective .

And so you know , if let's just say I am , I'm somebody who really maybe I don't really want to get involved politically , but I'm concerned , maybe , about my kids curriculum , or I'm concerned that I don't have great , a great communication strategy with my , my kids school . If I come this weekend , if I come on Saturday , what am I going to learn ?

Because if you are a mom and you're concerned about what's going on in your kids' schools and you want to make a difference , it can seem very overwhelming .

But if you understand how to effectively speak whether that's going and getting 60 seconds at your school board meeting or whether that's calling and setting a meeting with your school board member we can teach you how to message properly .

Oftentimes , unfortunately , we have created an environment in this country where parents have allowed the government to take over some of our fundamental responsibilities , and while I very much appreciate and am grateful for the public education system , it is our ultimate duty as parents to educate our children .

So when we see that our public school is not giving our children the things they need , if we don't have the ability to pull them out , then our job is to make sure that that child is getting what they need to , and too often our parents are abdicating that responsibility to the public school system and the public school system alone .

So when my kids come home from school , we talk about what they've learned , we fill in the blanks . Sometimes they'll come to me and they'll say my teacher said this and there's a little bit of correcting of the narrative . That has to happen .

Sometimes we also , as a family , are part of what we do to help our children understand that it's not just the public school system that's here to educate you . When we do things like go on vacation , we go to historic sites and we teach our children the history of America , so that their entire existence is about learning . That's the purpose of life .

It's to learn and to grow , and so they're getting education and information from somebody that's not just the public school system , it's not just their teacher . We're grateful for those people . My children attend a public charter school in Florida . Their teachers are awesome . We've had great experiences .

But I am the person ultimately responsible for my children's education and I'm not going to let anyone else take that from me .

It seems to me that a lot of families we sort of assumed the best in our schools for a long time . Meanwhile there was a real movement to go and move children in a certain direction that I think people are waking up to now . Have you seen that sort of the reaction ? Has that taken you back at any point ?

They know that an engaged mother who understands how her country works , understands how the public school system functions , is engaged in her children's upbringing , whether that's at school or out of it .

That is a dangerous thing for somebody who wants to control a populace , and so anything that they can do to undermine motherhood or families allows them to take control . And that is not any particular political party . That is just the way that the world works . We can arrive at a student in history . I've watched people do that across time .

Some things happen when our children and our society does not understand those principles , and so I think it's a very it doesn't shock me . It just proves the point that mothers to them are dangerous and they want to do anything they can to stop

us .

So just , do you have some tips for parents ? I mean , it's not just moms , it's dads that are actually writing into us too , and concerned grandparents , which have a huge influence on our children here in New Mexico . What are some tips that you could give parents that maybe you're finding out , hey , my kid's reading this literature book .

That I don't really think is a great idea at this age level , and I'm not getting anywhere with the teacher when I reach out to that teacher . Do you have any other advice or tips for these folks ?

Most of our teachers in America are excellent people who are just trying to help educate students . So go in with a positive attitude . See what you can get accomplished with the teacher . When the teacher won't listen , there is a , there's a structure in public education . You go to the admin . When the admin won't listen , you go to the district .

When the district won't listen . That is when you got to implement some new skills and that is where I think moms for Liberty chapters play a huge role . There's a reason why 300 plus chapters exist and why we encourage people to continue starting them because as a single person , you can be actually have a very effective , loud voice .

They don't want to discourage anyone from using their voice , but when you are just one person , your power is limited .

When you are able to gather people around you who see the same problem , then you are able to have a larger impact , and that is why it's important to have chapters in their area , so that when a mom gets frustrated in a certain school district , she has somewhere to go , somebody else who's been down that that road , who can point her in the right direction .

It's one of the beautiful things about this national network that Montserrillerity has created is that if you're experiencing something in Albuquerque someone else's problem they probably experienced it somewhere else and they can tell you like oh well , you know , I tried this in my district , it didn't work very well , you can try it there , or maybe try something else .

So we're able to act kind of as an early warning system and see the things that are coming and advise other parents across the country about , about things that are working and things that aren't .

Is this something that's obviously going to be a long-term battle that we have to invest in for decades , because , or maybe permanently , right , but have you noticed some of what is happening here ? It is , it's making progress , it's working , and do you have any examples of that ?

It's progress that's not going to make it into the headlines . It's individual , relational progress . It's you talking to an admin and them seeing you're not an extremist or a crazy person . You just want something that's great for kids and you want to see something happen . And that is what is taking place quietly all across the country .

And that those little wins look like , you know , a new superintendent getting voted in in a school district . It looks like books being being inappropriate age inappropriate books being pulled out of schools and better books being used . It looks like great people being elected to school board across the country .

There are tiny victories that are happening all the time and unfortunately , the national narrative is so focused at the national level that you don't see and you don't hear it .

One of the one of my favorite things that happens in Mom's True Liberty we have a Zoom call for our chapter leadership once a month and those chapter leaders get on and we have a winning segment where we talk about all the little victories they've had , and those little victories matter .

Those are the things that that show them they can change the world and that encourage them to keep going . And those things are happening all the time . If you don't have a chapter in your area , follow us on social media . Mom's True Liberty is active on almost every social media you can be on and they're often sharing the stories of these little victories .

So they're great things to watch , because they are . It is changing whether I know it feels overwhelming . I know the narrative is so negative right now , but I promise you there are great , wonderful things happening all across America and one of the best ways to stay encouraged is to get involved with Mom's True Liberty and watch them yourself .

You can be anything you want to be and you can come into Mom's True Liberty as long as you are dedicated to defending parental rights .

We have a national summit in Washington in August and September that you can learn more about as well , but the info for the seminar in Albuquerque you can find under the events tab . Just scroll to the right date . You'll see it there . It'll have all the information . It's free to members of Mom's True Liberty at large .

Membership is free , so all you got to do is sign up online and then you can attend for free , though I do strongly encourage you to join your local chapter , if there's one in your area , and then you can just come and join us . If you struggle at all online , you can always email .

There's an email on the event information and they'll answer all your questions .

So , marie , thank you so much for what you're doing and for coming out and just trying to give us some support and encouragement and just be a bright light in this world , which is what we're trying to all kind of do , especially as parents . So thank you so much for your time and we wish you much success at this seminar .

We're working on it right now . We'll have it going for you on Monday and again , thanks for joining us and we'll see you back here on Monday .