¶ Push for Change in Local Elections
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Okay , so here's what's happening . We had the Republican debate just finish up . We had elections that wrapped up late last night with a lot of close races here in New Mexico . We're going to talk about a couple of those and go through strategy and we're going to bring in the guy and you can see him Now . Everybody's like where is Jay ?
Usually he's in the studio . Jay McCleskey yeah , he's a local analyst , but Jay is actually in a resort in northern New Hampshire called the Balsams and he goes there and he just disappears from time to time and then he comes back yeah . Yeah , jay , thanks for taking the time to talk . Glad to be here . Okay , very good . So let's get right to it here .
Yeah , let's talk about the local elections , because there was quite a few going on across the state and here in our county . Jay , any surprises there from last night ?
Yeah , I think there were some surprises . I mean , if you look at Albuquerque , though , I think it was a good night for people who care about fighting crime , for citizens who care about fighting crime . It was a bad night for Keller , with the victories of Brooke Bason and Dan Champagne .
While those numbers still maintains basically a conservative or kind of a middle of the road coalition majority , you have a majority now that are really determined to get serious and change direction on how we fight crime , and I think that's a big deal .
And I think Keller went way out on a limb going after Bason and failed , and I think that's going to end up being a big mistake on his part .
Yeah . So when you talk , let's talk about that for a second . Yeah , you can see here because as you got up in the morning on the journal , it was close , it was a very close race . But , jay , in politics when you have an incumbent , you know , stick their neck out , raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for someone and then not get the job done .
That tends to take the person who ends up winning that race and solidifies them as opposition , which some people criticize Brooke at times for not always being the opposition to Keller . Maybe that she could have been . That won't be a problem anymore .
I mean , I think she , I think Keller felt like she was taking him on too much and so she tried to again . I was , I worked for Brooke and for Dan to disclose that , but the yeah , he . They spent $200,000 between the campaign and the IE against her . Keller lent his campaign manager to Brooke's opponent to run that campaign and they did .
They came up short and again , like in Burnley Hill County as you know , as Republicans there are no easy districts anymore . In Burnley Hill County we have about one Republican state rep left , so that was a very expensive race .
Brooke went public financing so she was only spending $45,000 , but she ended up pulling that one out and I think it was the issue of crime , the messaging of crime . I think the Albuquerque Police Officers Association played a big role in that just kind of just kind of fact checking some things and , and you know , validating her , her candidacy .
Right , no , no , no , no doubt . And then , as far as the money goes , what was she ? To get people an idea , who don't know this stuff ? By taking public financing ? Brooke , what gets $40,000 , $50,000 for the whole race ? What did her opponent , what did Abby , have for money ?
Well , she raised that we know of right now is about $90,000 . Yeah , probably it'll be more than that when they file the reports . And then you have the independent expenditure groups that Keller was behind . They're probably spending another $120,000 , $130,000 .
So it's a lot of money in these races , in what we've seen in Burnley Hill County , the trend of the county creates difficult races , yeah , but I think if proof to Republicans you can win on the crime issue , you have to just hit that issue really hard and I think you can win on it . Dan Champine .
Oh , go ahead , I'm sorry , Brooke and I think Dan Champine is the same . He's taken over Trudy Jones' seat . That again was a tough race . His opponent , I mean , walked in Canvas as hard as I've seen in doing these races for 20 years , but Dan's a retired police officer from APD Was in the aviation unit .
He's going to be an excellent city counselor to have on there to fight crime Someone a retired police officer . So I think those you know these races are going to matter moving forward for the city and it's not going to be good for Keller .
You know , I know you guys always talk about how , the fact that turnout is usually really low for these elections , but when I'm looking at these numbers last night , I was shocked at how just how low they were . Was that a surprise to you at all , jay ?
No , I kind of think the city council race is at least those two IOS I was involved in , they were kind of coming in where you'd expect them to , I think where you see the difference is , like some of the school board races where there's not that much attention , I think , where you really see turnout drop off quite a bit .
Yeah , and let's just one other quick thing on this before we go to the city , before we go to the school board race .
The interesting thing is and I think the solidifying of sort of a conservative push on the city council is noteworthy here because Renee Grout has been someone who's always been very conservative , dan Lewis has been that way , I think Dan's going to be that way , I think Brooke is going to be very supportive as well , and then Louis Sanchez turns out to be the
guy who is going to be the swing boat , but somebody who regularly is pretty conservative as well . So sometimes it's Right .
Yeah , he's also a retired police officer . So I think if you're looking at Albuquerque and we've seen where we just talked about we have one Republican state rep in Burlina County and more the fact that you have a 5-4 on that council , arguably on crime issues and some of these other things . I think that's good , that bodes well for the city .
Yeah , yeah , it's gonna make Keller's life more difficult , which is probably a good thing for people .
Right and hopefully they can take him on and change direction with where they're going .
Yeah , okay , but on the other side , if you're a conservative or you're somebody who thinks we need to change direction on , or at least someone to continue to push back on , the education narrative .
¶ School Board Elections and Abortion Impact
In Albuquerque , peggy Muller-Aragon lost that race very , very close race and , jay , the timing on that loss ends up being a huge issue .
Yeah , I mean I think that's gonna be a big . It's gonna have a big impact on the school board .
It's gonna shift power on the school board and I think you're gonna see it's gonna impact the superintendent's search and I wasn't following that race that closely but if you look at the numbers , the district it was redistricted and the district actually got better or more Republican for her .
But because of the turnout it's a three-way race and remember , in nonpartisan races party affiliation isn't on the ballot .
So if voters don't know and they're not being informed , and I just think , as conservatives , everybody , whether it's business groups , whether it's the party , everyone has to get involved in these races to remind voters why they care about , why they should be passionate about school board races .
And two years ago I helped Courtney Jackson and voters cared , they understood , like when you can't message it , they understand why it's important . But if you don't do that , I think that really affected turnout and hurt Peggy . I mean , I look at it to me .
You look at what's happening with Hamas and the fact that we have people in the United States protesting on their behalf , and it has to do with , in my opinion , just this viewing everything through the lens of a press versus a presser and not understanding history and not understanding what's happening in schools , that it matters and I think people care about that ,
but if they're not reminded of it at a campaign time , what happens is the union runs their turnout , which they did , and paid a guy to be by a union candidate , and that's a problem .
I think we're gonna , as conservatives , we have to get together on these races and really , if we wanna change it , it's gonna take everyone working really hard together because a campaign or a candidate they're not gonna be able to do that on their own . They're not gonna be able to drive turnout like that on their own .
Yeah , yeah , no , in that messaging it is ready-made messaging too , Jay . Also the parental rights portion of it . Pregnant rights everything , A lot of these things lined up pretty well for conservative candidates , but if Peggy doesn't have a turnout machine to help her get those votes , you know , there that's . It is devastating , there's no doubt .
I think there's a good example , tonight they approved the East Mountain Charter School to expand . That's the highest performing school in APS . Well , that's again . The war between the unions on charter schools is big . It's things like that that's gonna start happening when the board shifts are gonna start .
You know they're not , you know , successful , not be tolerated with charter schools , and they'll try to do everything they can to stop those .
Well , and they've been in trouble on that because as an issue , you know , a few years ago the charter school issue was one that you'd get some pushback , but now you get a little less pushback because they have absolutely nowhere to stand on this .
Charter schools performing in the state of New Mexico regularly done a really good job and it's made a massive difference . And to go and come out against that because you're an entrenched union , it continues to be an increasingly untenable position . But if you have no one to drive that messaging home , it gets lost .
Right . It's frustrating because I'm convinced that we win those messages . The voters agree on that . But if they don't hear that and they don't understand why that race is important , to go vote in that school board race , they're not gonna turn out .
Absolutely okay . Let's do a couple of other quick things here . I wanna switch nationally a little bit and talk to you about a couple other races that Christie and I were watching last night and I think you still saw . I think abortion is still a massive issue . You saw last night . Kentucky reelects a Democratic governor . Again .
We're talking about a state here that is an R plus 26 in a presidential year . So that's a . You know Republicans roll in Kentucky . So tell me what do you think on this . And I do wanna play an ad , jay , before I have you quickly respond . I wanna , ella , let's go to clip number five .
I think this was the ad , and I remember you pointing it out to us at one point during the race that this young lady who came out and did an ad for Andy Bashir against Daniel Cameron this was the ad . That was devastating . So we'll listen to this , jay , and then we'll get your comments .
I spoke to my stepfather after years of sexual abuse . I was 12 . Anyone who believes there should be no exceptions for rape and incest could never understand what it's like to stay in my shoes . This is to you , daniel Cameron . To tell a 12 year old girl she must have the baby of her stepfather who raped her is unthinkable .
I'm speaking out because women and girls need to have options . Daniel Cameron would .
Would give us none . She ends up saying so , Jay , that is an that's a tough ad .
That's an effective ad . I think that race Bashir really did was a popular governor . He did a lot of things . It's hard you kind of look at that and I know Biden tried to claim credit for that today , but that's completely false . Trump's up at 30 points in that state , the .
I mean I think Bashir did a good job making it about Kentucky and him , and he did a good job in a lot of crises there and became very popular and so he's starting off in that position and then an ad like that just makes it really hard for Cameron to grow .
And the fact and this is what Republicans should realize if they're running ads like that against us in Kentucky , what do you think happens in some of these swing congressional seats ? Right , you know , like if that's effective in Kentucky , it's going to be a big problem in some of these suburban districts .
Well , yeah , I mean , it even affects us . So Ohio , going into Ohio as well , right ?
Yeah well , the Ohio issue too .
The race in Ohio of very Republican state plus eight plus eight and votes in favor of codifying abortion .
In the state constitution Right On their ballot .
So here's a really strong Republican state proving that case once again that they've made that decision . There's a pro and con of that , of course . Right , we look at that and say , as pro lifers , that's a tough , you know , that's a tough situation that you go . Oh my gosh , all these Republicans voted in favor of doing this .
And another aspect it you know that situation now , for the most part , has been settled in that state and so hopefully , moving forward in that state they can talk about some of the other issues that states going to be dealing with
¶ Abortion Politics and Political Strategy Discussion
as well .
Yeah and J no , it's so true . And then J , the Junkin thing . Right , junkin , you know , he was this kind of shiny object where , oh , maybe , you know , maybe , if we're lucky , junkin , you know , jumps into the presidential race and things like that . And it turns out , not only did he not get the Senate , he lost the House in his state .
He went out and said , hey , let's do a 15 week abortion ban , which is something that we actually advocated for , which is the standard for most of Europe . And you know , we can get into that approach or not , but it didn't work for Junkin either .
No , I mean I was nervous . I just think making that front and center is difficult . I think they saw the same thing that we did and , in fact , that most people agree with that position . Right , but it's . I just think Republicans Miss the mark . It's not about that , though .
For a lot of voters , a lot of voters see that as a ban , and Whether they agree , you know on on the details of that position , the issue is bigger than that .
Sometimes the issue is it's politicians telling women what to do , and it's not so much 15 weeks or or whatever , and I think you can win that 15 week argument intellectually and they start saying ban and you're gonna lose it , and I think that's what happened .
It just as we saw right now no , it's this exact same thing .
Right . Well , in going into tonight's debate we see Nikki Haley once again . I think she's got a great answer on the abortion issue . Can we play that ? First , ella , it's clip 11 , and then we'll get 10 , clip 10 . Yeah , and then we'll get some . We'll get some feedback from you and Jay .
Man . I am Unapologetically pro-life , not because the Republican Party tells me to be , but because my husband , michael , was adopted and I had trouble having both of my children , so I'm surrounded by blessings . Having said that , when you look post row , a wrong was made right .
They took it out of the hands of unelected justices and they put it in the hands of the people , and now we're seeing States vote and what I'll tell you is as much as I'm pro-life , I don't judge anyone for being pro-choice and I don't want them to judge me for being pro-life .
So when we're looking at this , there's some states that are going more on the pro-life side . I welcome that . There's some states that are going more on the pro-choice side . I wish that wasn't the case , but the people decided .
But when it comes to the federal law , which is what's being debated here , be honest , it's gonna take 60 Senate votes , a majority of the house and a president to sign it . So no , we haven't had 60 Senate votes in over a hundred years . We might have 45 pro-life senators .
So no Republican president can ban Abortions , any more than a Democrat president can ban these state laws . So let's find consensus . Let's agree on what how we can ban late-term abortions . Let's make sure we encourage adoptions and good quality adoptions . Let's make sure we make contraception accessible .
Let's make sure that none of these state laws put a woman in jail or give her the death penalty for getting an abortion . Let's focus on how to save as many babies as we can and support as many moms as we can , and stop the judgment .
We don't need to divide okay , now I know you guys are gonna say that was a long-winded answer . I can already hear you to right now . Right , this is gonna be you to too long of an answer . Voters aren't gonna be paying attention to all those details and they're gonna just think that she's pro-life , right ? This is gonna be argument , am I right ?
just go ahead and finish that you two are gonna say . All anybody heard on the Democratic side is she's pro-life . That means she's gonna try to ban abortion . My right , is that what you guys are ?
gonna Go ahead . I'll let you go first .
No , I wouldn't say that . I think she's . She's obviously . To me that's a general election message that she's trying to use right there . I'm not sure how that is in Iowa and in a Republican primary , but you know , I just think those are . Those are difficult issues . She's trying to take it off the table .
I mean basically on the federal side , and saying look , this isn't really a federal issue , states are gonna decide and let states decide . So I see that as her trying to , and I think she's trying to do it in the Primary in a way . So if she isn't in a general election , she becomes a nominee .
It's not , doesn't look like she's all of a sudden changing her position on something She'll be able to point back to .
This is what I've been saying all along , but to me it's more of a general election Argument yeah , I mean , I think you guys , the thing I really appreciate about this , because we talked about this in the very first debate she said the same answer is she ? I know you guys are big on you got it .
You're basically your key message has to be what like 10 seconds long , something like that .
Oh , no , no , no , not necessarily , but .
I think I like that she explains the process to people like , listen , we'd have to have 60 people Right your Congress to vote on this or whatever and a president to sign off on it .
So , but the problem the quick . But the next question would be from a reporter . Let's say you have 60 Republican senators or 60 pro-life senators , would you ban it ? Then yeah , and then what ? It's ? What's the answer to ?
that she's tying herself and knots and all of a sudden they're taking that little piece and hitting her with it . The other thing , too is I think Interestingly on this and minds my .
A point on this is a little bit different , in that I think that if you're the nominee and if Nikki Haley ends up being the nominee , she has one thing working for her that that nobody else does , and that is that she would be running against Joe Biden , so she would have so many other things to hit with him that I don't imagine , especially knowing how
well-defined he is and how Historically unpopular he is , I don't think this would be wrapped around her neck as much as it would be another candidate .
I agree , I don't know that it's you know , depending on who the nominee is . Um , I mean , desantis would have to answer for the six-week thing .
But I think where abortion is gonna have a much bigger the impact on the presidential race Is you look at a bunch of these target states that are gonna have abortion referendum on the ballot , like they had in in Ohio on last night , and Democrats will put that on everywhere they can to try to drive turnout .
And you know , I think that's where you're gonna see the bigger , the big impact on on the presidential race .
Yeah , no , it's interesting . Okay , Jay , I'm just gonna sucker you into this one to clip 11 . I want you to hear this . So we have watched two of these debates and we've talked about them . We know that Nikki and Vivek hate each other . I mean , there's there's just no question and it reached a different level In tonight's debate .
So I want you to hear this and just get your reaction when it's done .
Want to laugh at why Nikki Haley didn't answer your question , which is about looking at families in the eye . In the last debate , she made fun of me for actually joining tiktok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time . So you might want to take care of your family first , leave my . The next generation of Americans are using .
And that's actually the point . You have her supporters Cropping her up . That's fine . Here's the truth . You're just easy answer is okay .
I mean , I'm sorry , but like if somebody debated you and brought up the girls in a slam , like I hope you would scratch their eyes out professionally .
I just think that it's gonna go over like a turd in a punch bowl , with most voters is questioning someone's Kid , an innocent kid like that . I think that's crazy .
Yeah , once again he . I remained the same on that kid , that guy . Oh , no , no car salesman , then with the big pop of do hair or whatever you want to call that . Pompadour he needs to sit down .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , no doubt . Okay , jay , I know you look the fact that you took a little bit of time . Let's be honest from the ball .
I'm sitting here with a broken leg . I can't really move . Had a little crash I had a little crash . So that's why I'm Calling . I'm zooming in from my recliner .
Yes , no , it's , it's good you heal it up . Yeah , I get better and cuz .
We're glad to have you doing this once .
We're only giving you the hall pass to be at the Balsams once .
Yeah , so you got it . I will make . I will make the most of it .
Yeah , okay and yeah . So what we'll do here is we're gonna finish up the debate here in just a second and and get the back half of the show going . So stay right with us and we will be right back .
You're listening to the no doubt about it . Podcast back to your hosts , christy and Mark Ronchetti .
Okay still a lot to dive into with the debate tonight . Yeah , for those folks that we're still tuning in , I know that a lot of people really are thinking does this matter ? Once again , that question with Trump having such a big lead ?
But I think again , we just , you don't know , like we're still a year out and like a lot of stuff can really Shake itself out to some degree .
Yeah , we're a year out but we're really not , I mean , right because you got to have a , you got to have a nominee , basically by Well , we should , you should have one by kind of mid-spring , but that that may stretch out because we still believe , I think , very , very firmly , that Biden won't be the nominee .
So so , who knows , we'll see how that shakes out . So so , yeah , we do watch these debates , you do keep an eye on them and , and I will say we just finished with Nikki and Vivek fighting , but the big had a very interesting moment , and I want to , I want to show you that , because he did a good job , I think , and this is the best job ever .
See , you do well .
He also suggests that we just build a wall across . Canada , I know Canada in the US , which is funny .
But once again just his great ideas . No , he's running for student council president everybody student buddy president , here we go . Here's his thoughts
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All right , so so here's Vivek on on taking on the media and the Republican Party as well .
We've become a party of losers . At the end of the day , we , as a cancer , the Republican establishment Speak the truth . I mean , since Ron McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017 , we have lost 2018 , 2020 , 2022 . No red wave . That never came .
We got trounced last night in 2023 and I think that we have to have accountability in our party for that matter on . If you want to come on stage tonight , you want to look the GOP voters in the eye and tell them you resign . I will turn over my yield , my time , to you and , frankly , look the people they're cheering for losing in the Republican Party .
Think about who's moderating this debate . This should be Tucker Carlson , joe Rogan and Elon Musk . We'd have ten times the viewership asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about and bringing more people into our party .
You think the Democrats and we've got Christian Walker here you think the Democrats would actually hire Greg gut-fell toast a democratic debate . They wouldn't do it , and so the fact that matters . I mean , chris , I'm gonna use this time because it's actually about you in the media and the corrupt media establishment .
Ask you the Trump Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years . Was that real or was that Hillary Clinton made up disinformation ? Answer the question go .
Okay , I thought it was very effective .
It was good . It's just that it's good because it's good , like , then let him be a TV host , let him be a media guy , let him go on a Fox show , let him do Commentating . Okay , that doesn't make you a president just because you can call it the media .
I know that he's like kind of trying to follow the Trump footsteps of let me call out the media Right , which I appreciate , as you know . I mean , we do a lot of that on our own show . I'm not trying to run for president , so I feel like there's , you know , I don't know . I think it's great . It gives him some points up there .
Does it make him , does it show you that he's gonna be an effective president candidate or president ? No ?
no , but I think he makes an interesting point now . One thing he leaves out the elephant in the room , which is often it the Vic does which is during there no no , not the hair . He leaves out . The fact that the Republican Party is a party that Runs , you know , behind President Trump is it cannot win . It just has not been able to win .
Now , it doesn't mean that Trump's to blame for all of that , but Trump is Trump . He's his own thing . Nobody can be president Trump , nobody can , and so it makes it very hard . So , because a lot of the electorate is hardened either way on President Trump . So there is no middle , left , right , to swing back and forth and to slide everybody over .
So he Conveniently forgets all of that and just goes back to and hammers Ronna McDaniel because it's easier to hammer Ronna .
Then it is to hammer Trump because he's a you know , he's basically a Trump sick of fan , right , right and so which only problem I have with that is there's nothing wrong with people that are Trump sick of fans , but don't run for president against him , otherwise , what are you here for ?
right like why are you running brother Trump light ?
Yeah , trump light , that's good , that's what I'm looking for . Look , if I can have the real thing . What in the world I want you for ?
well , he's just looking for another position . You know that it's not he's seeing . They're taking this position for first serious .
I think he's looking for . Yeah , launching point .
Yes , there's no way out there . I know that a lot of our listeners right in and they kind of get upset with me because I don't like this guy . Right , and that's fine , you're , totally you're . You can like the guy all you want . I just think a slick guy that can give you all the answers does not necessarily mean you're gonna .
He's the wisest guy on that stage that can actually lead a country . Oh , nobody .
I mean , yeah , I agree with it Again . I just think I don't like a lot of his other answers because I think he just freelances and says whatever . So , that's my biggest issue with him . It's not that he's being so . If he's slick , I don't care . If he's slick , I haven't called slick before , it doesn't mean no , you don't know what you're doing .
You're , yeah , but you're no discipline . I don't think he's disciplined , so I just I don't . I don't even put you two in the same bracket . I'm not .
I'm not a very accomplished guy , but I just don't think he has any any business in this race .
All right , let's move on .
Yeah , let's move on to Chris Christie , and I think Chris Christie brings up an interesting point . I mean , this is a very brief moment from him . I don't think Chris is a huge factor in this race .
However , I think one thing he brings up is something that's important to the state of New Mexico and it's important to working families , not only here but across the country , and this is something we better wrap our minds around Very , very soon , and that is , we better pay attention to how much it costs to heat and cool our homes , to fill your tank with gas
energy affordable energy is absolutely the backbone of Everything going forward , because that's where this fight is going to be . It's coming up on you know .
Are we gonna continue to have affordable energy or are we gonna make energy incredibly expensive in the name of a climate change Agenda , which , again , you can help with the climate without destroying the energy economy ? Chris Christie sort of says this in his comments Energy is the key to bringing this down .
It's what every American family needs when they turn on their lights , fill up their car and go to the grocery store , and we need to do that first and foremost .
That's the short term . Oh , I just cut them off . Huh , did I cut them off ? I cut them off . Ella's like wait a minute , you cut them off . But you get the point . Yeah , it's a . To bring down costs for working families , you have to have affordable energy , and I think it is the issue of the next 10 years .
No joke , because you're going to have a push from certain environmental groups to make energy incredibly expensive and try to force us into other energy sources that are , by and large , more expensive and less reliable , when we have the cleanest , best energy in the world right here .
Well , of course , I mean , that's something you come bad when you're in the race . I think it's getting even a bigger controversy here in the state . I don't think we see any leadership here that isn't trying to push that agenda . In fact , that is absolutely going to be the next big you know public emergency situation .
Let's just hold our hats for that one , because it's coming as we continue to push for not only EVs . But what are you going to cook your ? You know everything .
Yeah , and again , we're not saying no EVs or no , just don't mandate it , those right yeah .
Just stay out of it as a mandate . It's none of your business like at the end of the day . So , okay , let's go on Any anybody else you want to talk about from
¶ Speculation on Potential Presidential Candidates
tonight .
Yeah , DeSantis , I think he's been accused of not being able to connect right Right that he's a great governor and he is . I don't think there's there's no disputing that he's the most accomplished governor and the most accomplished person on that stage . To me as a chief executive , no doubt . But it's the connection thing we say is he a little stiff or whatever ?
He did a good job here , kind of drawing back where we are as a country in the difficult things that families face when they go to the grocery store . These are issues you face every day and that's why I like what he did here .
So I started off working minimum wage jobs . I did $6 an hour as an electrician's assistant . I worked all kinds of things to be able to get through school , and I did that because I believed in America . If you work hard and get the most out of your God given ability , you can get ahead . And what's happening now ?
Many of you are working hard and you're falling further and further behind . I've met people in Iowa , new Hampshire and all across the country who've talked about all the burdens that they're facing with the rising prices , and I've heard from multiple people the same story .
When they go grocery shopping , what they now do is they figure out what they have to take out of the cart once it's ringing up , because it rings up so much faster and so much higher at the cash register that they can't afford the full cart of groceries anymore . We have to restore the American dream in this country . What can you do on day one ?
Here's what I'm going to do I'm going to take all the executive orders , the regulations , everything involving by-denomics .
I just keep cutting those off . Well , he's going to get rid of them , just so you know , yeah , we all assume that that's what you said , but I and I guess the reason that I listened to DeSantis' clip there and I start nod my head like this is because that's exactly what we all feel when we go to the grocery store .
Right , right we're all feeling it Absolutely . We talked about this is coming . Now it's here , so I hope that that really does impact people how they vote . Again , I think you see some , you know some inability sometimes by people or voters to connect the dots of these inflation and these rising costs to leadership . I don't understand that .
Policy yeah .
Yeah , I don't want to connect those dots , that's . My only fear is that people still won't say , hey , you know because you got . So you saw that Biden running around saying Biden , an anonymous or whatever is the American dream ? Yeah , I mean , if people are still getting snowed by that , that propaganda , that PR stunt that he's pulling , wake up .
I mean I don't know who's buying that anymore , but he's still selling it .
He is still selling it , but you know who's not buying it ? David Axelrod , right , he's the president of Obama's architect for his two wins , and he says this . He said it late last week . It's very late to change horses . A lot will happen in the next year that no one can predict . And Biden's team says his resolve is to run , is firm .
He defied conventional wisdom before , but this will send tremors of doubt through the party , not bedwetting , but legitimate concern . And what he's talking about is polling . There you go , thanks , alex .
So we're talking about the Vada , where Trump is up 10 , arizona , where Trump is up five , georgia , where Trump is up six , michigan , where Trump is up five , and Wisconsin , where Biden just has a two point lead . If this played out , this would be a complete and utter blowout . So this is a recent poll .
Again , it's one of those deals where taking polls too seriously a year out , right , mm-hmm , a lot can happen , a lot can happen . But when David Axelrod is saying this , barack Obama is saying this , right , I mean , and I think you have a situation here where Axelrod , with the president the former president's blessing is saying look , get him out of there .
He can't do it .
So when you lose David Axelrod in the Democratic Party , I'm telling you it's going . It is eroding from under Biden . There's no way he can be the nominee .
So do you think Axelrod's going to come out and say who he thinks should jump in ?
No , his comment , one of his other tweets and I think we have one of the tweets there is there's a deep bench on the Democratic Party . He says if he continues to run , he will be the nominee of the Democratic Party . But what he also says is there's a deep bench of people that they think could do a good job .
He won't come in and weigh in on that part of it , but again , remember whoever they get is not going to go through a primary process .
Right , they're just going to put them in there .
Well , they're going to go to a convention right , and they're going to vote at the convention . A lot easier to win at the convention .
Oh , absolutely .
You know so , and again we've talked about what Ted Cruz has said .
Right and if Cruz is convinced , the biggest fear to Republicans would be if they threw in Michelle Obama and the argument there it's . You know I listened to him again . He's got a new book out . I kind of pulled into some interviews on him because I think he's kind of a fascinating guy , very strongly opinionated .
But you know his argument really is people are saying there's no way she wants to do it . You and I have talked about this . She's sick of politics . Maybe she has .
You know she's got her life and what she's doing , and why would she want to do all this again and what she doesn't want to do , which is what no candidate wants to do , which is run the campaign right you don't want to run in the primary . You don't want to run for two years .
No , the fund is the general election .
Right and if you're absolutely guaranteed that you're the nominee and you got a couple of months left until the election and we all know that she is the biggest fear factor for anybody else that would run against her .
No doubt she would . She would , to me , would be the strongest candidate .
And then , but but again , assuming she doesn't want to do it , then I think what you end up with is you got , you know , a battle between Newsom and and you know a few people like that , that and obviously the vice president , right , so she's not exactly going to give this whole thing up . So that's interesting .
And then the New York Times had an article , an opinion article from Catherine Miller , talking about Nikki Haley , and we saw it tonight . Nikki had another night tonight where I think she had a pretty good night tonight . She's a good debater , she's I think she's the best debater on that stage .
She definitely polished .
Yeah , she is .
She's really sharp , and so they said Nikki Haley could turn the race for the Republican nomination brutal . So here's the quote there's 100 little switches that would need to flip from now in a big mousetrap style path toward victory If a block of Republican voters support for Mr Trump is as soft as some polls indicate , for example , what she's talking about there .
Last night in the Ohio election , 66% of the people in Ohio that are Republicans said they didn't want Trump to run . Again . Give you an idea . That's kind of some of the stuff they're talking about here . Okay , and if all this happened , ms Haley could somehow continue to elevate herself all the way through .
The rest of the GOP nomination could turn brutal and a volatile confrontation with Trump would be inevitable . And I'll tell you , for anyone who knows Nikki Haley knows that she's up for whatever she needs to do to do the job , and so it's an interesting article If you want to check it out . I'm not a big New York Times person .
It was a long article about her , but it was fair . It wasn't . You know , I didn't read it . It was opinion piece , so it wasn't like it was some news piece , but it was fair to her and it really basically said you know what she's don't counter out , and I do believe she probably is . If it's not going to be , president Trump could be her .
Yeah , she'll be right there . Lots to watch on that one , Absolutely Really
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quick . Speaking of Trump , this is I think this is just fascinating this whole Colorado trying to get Trump off the ballot . Right , you know , just to catch our listeners up that who don't know , but I think most people do there is a court case going on right now to remove Trump from the upcoming ballot .
Right , it is in front of a judge who will not recuse herself , despite the fact that she has given donation money to campaigns against Trump . And , as you know , I just again once , it's like the news people don't give money we talked about this news . People don't give money , usually to political campaigns .
Right , you got judges that are doing it like , are you crazy ? You are supposed to be a judge and here you've given money to get Trump non-elected again , Like I think it's against Trump , I think that's something called that , it's like a blue something against Trump . And then she says , oh , I can still do this fairly . It doesn't recuse herself .
I think this is a bunch of garbage . So you move on to last night and you see that Channel 9 News is talking about the Secretary of State , because of course , the Secretary of State is who put this case in front of the judges , right , put in front of this judge , right ? So you've got this . You've got this coming out on KUSA , Kyle Clark .
Let's be honest , Kyle Clark is definitely a Democratic journalist , for sure , but I have to give this guy credit .
Well , I don't know if he's a , I don't think he's a stated Democrat , but yeah , there's not a lot of people , I think , in Colorado that would say he leans right anyway .
Right , that's a fair assessment , but I have to give him credit that he called out the Secretary of State very fairly in the fact that . You know I'll let we'll play the actual clip so you can hear what he has to say . But she went around , the Secretary of State did a lot of press interviews .
Right On election day .
On election day because it's because she's kind of the one that spearheads elections right .
She's the chief elections officer , that's right .
And when Channel 9 gave her the questions ahead of time , when she read those realized she's going to be in the hot seat . She was like , oh , never mind , I don't have time for Channel 9 anymore , so let's play this clip .
Bounce for election day . Every single television station in Denver , colorado Springs , grand Junction Radio , national Media . It's standard election day stuff for the state's chief elections official , but this year she may face some interesting questions . Some she'll like , some she may not . In fact , griswold staff asked if she could have airtime on 9 News today .
Then she declined to appear after learning the questions would come from our next team . Some obvious questions to be asked . The head of the Colorado County Clerks Association says go vote . Robo calls from Secretary Griswold have caused voter confusion around the state because they went out to Coloradans who had already voted .
A group of voters is suing to force Griswold to take Donald Trump's name off Colorado's primary ballot . The judge in the case has donated to Secretary Griswold and to an anti-Trump group . The judges face calls to accuse herself . We'd like to ask Secretary Griswold about that too .
And then there are also the threats against election workers in Colorado from extremists and the state Republican chairmen .
So at least you know they call her out right there off the news desk . I was like this is the way it's done , this is the way it should be done . So let's see , I don't think she's going to say anything . You know she's not coming out talking about that , but I do think we need to be watching , and I've been telling you this .
You know you and I have been telling you this . You know I've been discussing this that we need to keep our eyes on what's to happen here in Colorado , because this could really be quite a factor for if they remove Trump in office , this is not happening .
It's a week .
I know you say it's not , I get it , but if they , if it does , if there's some thing that happens , no , you're right .
I shouldn't say it's not happening , because you never know you never know the guy's been accused .
I mean he's in court every single day , so I don't know .
Like you know , no , I know , you know that's a fair point and I think we need to keep an eye on it . But I do think this would get elevated very quickly . The Supreme Court would be kicked out and Trump would be on the ballot . But , but still , it's a fair point , because I listen to me saying oh , don't worry about the legal system , it'll be fine .
Yeah , I trust the yeah whatever .
Well , no , with President Trump . Yeah , it's , he's been into it and OK , so that's our , that's our quick update episode where you get this thing out for everybody . And , by the way else , let's go back to camera two . Look at camera two today . What's going on with camera two ? It's the mustard camp . Well , this thing is yeah , no , it's legit mustard .
It was . It just happened , though . I just that's why that happened , because it said good night , get out of here , you guys .
It's late .
So , Ella's got school we got to work tomorrow .
Thanks for joining us tonight . We will be back next Monday with a new episode .
Yes , we actually . By the way , can I promo that ?
Oh yeah , I think you should .
Yeah , so we went to the border and just got back .
You actually went across the border .
We went to El Paso . Then we went into Juarez and we met a variety of people people in El Paso who were affected by what's going on with the administration , the administration and the immigration issues and then we went and talked to the guy who is in charge of the camps in El in excuse me , in Juarez , and asked them about what's going on .
So there's a lot that happens here . We're going to air that for you on Monday . I think you can see it's very , very interesting stuff and we talked to some people that have that are really fascinating . So I think you , I think you'll like it .
Yeah , I think it's good . And one quick little shout out to BJ Lindsey , the new mayor of Angel Fire .
I got to contact the mayor .
Yeah , mr Mayor , we're just going to call Mayor now . He was on our show on a previous episode and he was also part of our Mark versus the Mountain building show . So anyway , congratulations , Mayor Lindsey .
I'll go fix the infrastructure in Angel Fire and we'll see you .
God bless everybody . Have a good weekend on Monday .
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