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Episode 47: Mark Fails First Grade & Toyota Thinks New Mexico EV Push Is Nuts

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Episode description

We're introducing a new concept where we’ll invite listeners to share their own tales, either by video or in person. Mark recounts his personal experience in Catholic school, where he had to repeat first grade. 

Our conversation isn't just limited to fun and games. We cast our eye on some pressing global issues. Listen as we dissect Toyota Motor Chairman Akio Toyoda's views on e-vehicles from a Wall Street Journal article. We shift to the alarming rise in anti-Semitism on college campuses, discussing the worrisome impact of pro-Palestine propaganda on our youth. Rounding off, we delve into the negative effects of excessive social media consumption on teenagers, highlighting how it’s influencing mental health. This episode is more than just a chat - it's a conversation on diverse and pertinent topics that you certainly wouldn't want to miss.

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Podcast Concept

Speaker 1

You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right . Well , I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right . There's only an up or down . This is the no Doubt About it . Podcast .

Speaker 2

No doubt about it . And now your hosts .

Speaker 4

Christy and Mark Runkelly Wildfire you can't tell the sound Very serious over there . Yeah , yeah , you're like you came in hot , like Ella started right away .

Speaker 2

Well , Ella started going , and then she brings the music down too fast . There we go , there we go Right there . Right there , just like there , bang , underneath Bang .

Speaker 4

Nice work OK .

Speaker 2

I like what you're doing there .

Speaker 4

OK , all right Good .

Speaker 2

Well , yeah , I am a little serious . Well , just kind of putting some other stuff together and God , these are tough news days . I we got to go in . I want to do a show which I have been working on you on . It's a show where we just bring in random people , uh-huh . It doesn't matter who ?

it could be anybody , and that's why I wonder if we don't go to some of our listeners and viewers with this and say we want to hear your best story . That's it , just your best story . Everybody's got a great story , ok .

Speaker 4

So we would have people video themselves and send it into us .

Speaker 2

We could do that , or we could have them in , yeah yeah , and just sit down and we'll do each story . We'll do max of 10 minutes , but give us your best story . I don't know a single person where there's . They don't have one good story that's happened to them .

Speaker 4

Ok , and then you want to like air one story a week or something , yeah , or we do a full episode of maybe four or five of them have people pop in and be like OK , here's my best story , here's what happens .

Speaker 2

Or if people want to send us the clips , just get on your iPhone or your i-Android and just tell us the story .

Speaker 4

Ok , I mean I'm not opposed to that . I think that we could try it that way first and see if people will actually send in the stuff first . Yeah , or they'll have to , at least tell us about the story you know . At least give us the , the background , the background . Yeah , just see , like you know , does it make the Markronkette cut ?

Speaker 2

Well , no , I mean look , there's all kinds of great stories . Sorry , you never know what you're going to get .

Speaker 4

Well , that's exactly why we probably need to go ahead and make sure in advance . Yeah , no , I like that . We talk about our stories all the time .

Speaker 2

Yeah , but like you know , like one I that I've told you before , but this is one I would tell in a segment like that it's like I never went to school , Never went to school before first grade , Like my mom and dad just stuck me in first grade Like right at , like cold Listen , Joan had a lot of kids , I know I know she had a lot of kids to deal with

. We had a lot of kids in the family .

Speaker 4

She was moving around a lot .

Speaker 2

I know , it was you guys , your dad moved , you guys all the time for his job . Yeah , he did so I don't blame . Joan for that at all so . I get into Florida in St Charles school . It's Catholic school .

I get in there and my teacher , mrs Vick , welcomes me in with the green phonics book and I just sat there looking at it like I don't know what this is . I got destroyed for that year . I mean it was .

Speaker 4

Why would you not come home and say hey , mom , like they're teaching reading and I don't know how to read yet .

Speaker 2

Yes , because you're a little kid , you don't know , like I just was , like I just would go every day and I would be shaking going into this thing . I was also too young for the grade , right , right , because you're young for your grade as it is .

Speaker 4

Yeah right , I was . No , I'm not young now . I was , I was on October birthday .

Speaker 2

So I was a normal age , right , so but I got held up , so but I got held back in first grade because I got smoked so badly at St Charles . So then my mom , because she has a heart , she's like OK , I tell you what , since you're going to redo first grade and actually be with kids your own age , we'll send you to a different school .

So I ended up going to a different school for the second year .

Speaker 4

Well , that's kind of actually nice . It was great . It was great , and you don't have to be super embarrassed .

Speaker 2

I think she was a little . She may have felt a little bad that she fed me to the wolves , but but it was unbelievable .

Speaker 4

I tell you , joan didn't even know , or maybe she thought you know , this kid he's . I don't have time for half day kindergarten because I'm busy , that's what I bet she was really thinking , Because I think Anne was on scene by this time . I'm guessing .

Speaker 2

Oh , yeah , yeah , yeah , ok , your little sister was on scene .

Speaker 5

OK , yeah .

Speaker 4

So she's like no , I got a three year old . I need this kid in school all day . That's what happened . I've never asked your mom this story , but my guess is she's like uh , no , this kid's smart enough , get him off . Go to the local day . Yeah well , no , I was .

Speaker 2

I was street smart and when I got into school I got destroyed . So they bring out the phonics book and I would literally start sweating . And then we had field day where you ride your bike .

Speaker 4

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Didn't know how to ride a two wheeler , still was on the old training wheels . I got smoked at that too . Oh my God , it's the whole year . These kids must have just been like who is this guy ? Yeah , they can't do anything , oh my gosh . And so then I had to repeat first grade . I had to repeat first grade .

Now , thankfully again , I had an October birthday . So then I graduated high school when I was 18 .

Speaker 4

And I graduated when I was 17 .

Speaker 2

So I would have been too young for my grade anyway , so it definitely worked out .

Speaker 4

Well , and for everybody out there , if you haven't included him yet , he did catch up . He knows how to read really well . Yeah , I can read , I can get it done . He's fairly intelligent . Well , I had a gap year .

Speaker 2

basically , I took a gap year it's since . Charles , yes , the first grader .

Speaker 4

OK , all right , this is Vic . I feel terrible for her . Ok , well , I'll tell my story another day . Yeah , yeah , no , no , no .

Speaker 2

But anyway , stories like that which are a great story , but it's just kind of interesting , yeah , and everybody I know has a great story . So that's why I think we should do a second one .

Speaker 4

OK , all right .

Speaker 2

OK , well , I have another second idea that producer , Debbie out of Minnesota .

Speaker 4

she offered this up . She likes when we actually talk about a certain policy or information or something that people need to be paying attention to or maybe they don't understand exactly the process of it .

There was a time when she was kind of a little confused on what's the difference between a state senator and a US senator , and I was just briefly explaining it to her and that process .

Speaker 2

A lot of arrogance is the difference . No , sorry , go ahead .

Speaker 4

And anyway . So she said you guys , she

Discussion on Learning and Feedback

was . What I like about your show is that I usually walk away learning something .

So maybe you do a small segment on little things that people may not know about , like either when it comes to a voting issue , or how the legislature works , or how does this law get passed , or just whatever , or is there a process where parents can be more involved with something . I don't know Anyway .

So we'll kind of thumb that one out too , but if you guys are listening and you have any of those ideas , send us an email at info at no doubt about it . No doubt about it . Podcastcom .

Speaker 2

Yeah , try again . Info at no doubt about it . Podcastcom . Ok , thank you , That'd be great , yeah , and if a couple of stories got , a couple of stories you want to lay out , I'll check for this . I want to hear them .

Speaker 4

OK , so you got it . I'm trying really hard to stay up on comments , so you need to stay up on the emails , ok . I'll handle like policy questions and stuff because I think that's pretty informational . I like sharing information , as you know .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you do . You like sharing opinion more than information . But whatever , OK , so anyway .

Speaker 4

All right . So I'm going to nail you on something in a minute , but first before I do that , since we're speaking about comments , we've got some fun comments out there . We got a couple of five stars on our Apple podcast . I wanted to read just a couple of them . The first one came from Techs AG95 .

And it says this podcast is not just informative and insightful , but Kristie and Mark Spanter often make it fun and light . They dive not into just New Mexico politics but also tackle big issues that impact the entire country . Good guests , good content and overall district podcast . Thanks so much on that one , nice .

And then this is from Keeping it , christian also a five star review . Yeah , the Ron Kettys make even the toughest news not only informative but fun . I'm loving this podcast which that's very cool because it has been a it's been heavy Gosh .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , no doubt it's been really tough , no doubt .

Speaker 4

OK , speaking of , I just I would love to know if there's any like I don't know wives out there that maybe they ordered something , say on Amazon for like a reason and then like an organizer for your drawer , like this wooden organizer that you put , like your sandwich bags in and your aluminum foil in and your surround wrap , because our , our drawer is always a

hot mess and I love to organize . I think you opened up that pantry . It looks nice and sharp . You open up the drawers . You want it to be cool . Yeah , so I ordered this cool wooden organizer thing and I bet some of you out there actually have this product . I ordered it .

It arrived when I was out of town for one day and Captain Big Big Run here has no idea where he put it . He got it , he saw it now and our house is not that big , so it's not like it's in some big . I mean , I looked in the hall closet where sometimes we store stuff .

Right , the fact that you can't find this thing for me and Thanksgiving's coming up and you need all those bags and your aluminum foil and and all those little things . It's a . And then here's the kicker .

Speaker 3

Yeah .

Speaker 4

Basically every morning when I go on social right , it funnels an ad for that product for the wood divider . Yeah , it's like a wooden divider of like sandwich bags and yeah .

Speaker 2

So here's the thing . Yeah , I remember coming home and I remember seeing I saw a package from I don't know if it was amazon or whatever is amazon Okay so . I saw a package and I in . You were actually gone a little longer than that . It was over Christmas , I think no , no , not Christmas .

Speaker 4

It was over when I was taking care of my dad up in four months , like a month ago guy .

Speaker 2

Yeah , all right , all right , you don't have to snap it . Everybody it was . Now you're seeing the real christie , okay . So yeah , it's similar . So yeah , ella's showing kind of examples of this . It it's not quite like this , but but you get the impression it was some sort of organizational thing and it said like bags on it .

Speaker 4

Yeah , no , it's like sandwich bag . Yeah , sandwich gallon .

Speaker 2

So I open it , yeah , and I briefly remember this like a moment in time , and then I have no idea , right ? I don't know what I did .

Speaker 4

You black out and , you like , put it somewhere .

Speaker 2

I feel like it's still here in the house .

Speaker 4

I would hope so because if you threw that thing away , yeah , I might .

Speaker 2

You might have . How much was it , by the way ?

Speaker 4

I feel like it was like 25 bucks or something .

Speaker 2

Some of these on amazon , or yeah , that's it else right there , that $49 one , yeah , one of the left , yeah , it wasn't 49 bucks , though , okay , but yeah , yeah , like that it was like the organizer like that yeah , it's a sandwich bags , everything . Yeah , all right , I'm gonna really work to find okay .

Speaker 4

Because here's the thing now we're getting ready to go roll into christmas and holiday periods . Yeah you can't be throwing out amazon boxes I don't , though or hiding them , and then we can't find them again .

Speaker 2

Well , I still have that feeling like when an amazon box shows up , I'm still like what's it gonna be ? And then it usually is nothing like that .

Speaker 4

I mean it's and I order from amazon like once in a blue moon .

Speaker 2

So the fact that you stop . We constantly have amazon boxes order amazon .

Speaker 4

Yeah , you and the girls , you guys are all fighting .

Speaker 2

Well , no , that's the problem with the girls is is that they order something and then it comes in From it's china . Right , and they ordered it six months ago . And it comes in and you're like what in the world is this thing right ? And it's nothing like what they ordered . They know they can't return it right , because there's no .

Speaker 4

Yeah , that's .

Speaker 3

That's like one of those little clothing companies Unbelievable actually I've been locked out of the amazon for like four weeks . Yes , I might have , it's a bum .

Speaker 4

I did . I changed the password and you're welcome , it's now .

Speaker 2

it's now via retinal scan . There's no way you're getting in there . No , you do . You elah , you order the most ridiculous things .

Speaker 3

That's not true .

Speaker 4

Yes , they have a purpose every straws . Random stuff and straws are purposeful Okay , I mean you're gonna order a kansas city chief's jersey . Oh , yes , I am gonna do that . Yes , I actually was Yikes okay .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's a two right , yeah , all right , okay , all right , well , I'll do my best .

Speaker 4

I will try to find this I really , and I just don't want anything else thrown away before between now and say christmas , because it could be something for you .

Speaker 2

I mean , there's a thought , well , yeah , we do and we don't want that to happen . I agree , Um , okay heaven forbid .

Speaker 4

We do not want that to happen .

Speaker 2

Okay , well , today we're gonna go through a few different subjects , like when . I'm gonna move the show along pretty quickly . We're gonna try to keep things moving pretty fast today . But , uh , I want to start With an interesting article .

Uh , it was reading the wall street journal Um Wednesday evening and saw this come across and and I think it's fascinating because it's important to new mexico With everything that's going on and that's the this , this sort of transition . Everybody's talking about Electric vehicles , right ? What are we gonna do ?

The the state of new mexico now has an environmental board which is basically dictating everything .

Speaker 4

We're gonna do just like yeah , they're not elected , by the way .

Speaker 2

No , not elected at all . Governor names them and they just , they , just , they just dictate what's gonna

Toyota Chairman on EVs and Mandates

happen . So to me it was interesting , because you always want to keep an eye on people in whatever line of work . It is right . You want to listen to the people who are experts . There is nobody in our government that is an expert in cars , right in e v's , in the , the , the internal combustion . None of them are .

None of them are experts in any of these things . You have to rely on people that are smart , right , just to make you so like an automobile person on the board . I don't know . Well , I looked at that board . I sure didn't look like it . It looked like like everybody's going out for a hike at you know the you know blm sponsored hike .

I don't know , oh jeez , okay , and what I mean by that is , you know , beer of land management . So no , I'm serious . So , um , so , but I want to talk to you about this wall street journal article . So else let's throw up the wall street journal article .

And one thing that's been really interesting is Is that the chairman of toyota has been much more reserved and Committing to all in on e v's right , because part of the issue with this is the fact that there's a bunch of different technology out there . Yes , you know , you know tesla has has their battery .

There are other hundai has a battery but then there are other technologies . There's hydrogen , there's a lot of different things . There's there's hybrids , all sorts of things that are getting people either getting more out of the gas that we produce or or getting toward , you know , something more like some sort of battery , maybe a solid-state battery .

All different sorts of things .

Speaker 4

Okay , I just want I know this is being a child right here really fast , but I have to . The chairman of the motor , chairman of toyota , his last name is actually toyota toyota . Yeah , but spelled differently .

Right , no , no , no , why , oh da I'm sorry , but you read the article and you're like wait what the chairman's actually you absolutely are right , so we're gonna .

Speaker 2

I'll have you read this quote in a second , but I let's go ahead and show this right now . We'll show you the article , and it is . So . We're talking about toyota motor chairman accio toyota . Okay , that's his name , but you can see here , there it is .

Speaker 4

He spells toyota with a , d , that's yeah . So just so you know he deserves to be in that position with that kind of name .

Speaker 2

Yeah , absolutely so . So what he said was basically you're lasting to be ski resort . Yeah , I do mark ski resort . Mark any ski resort , yeah .

Speaker 4

Switzerland ski resort yeah , no no doubt so .

Speaker 2

But this is funny , though right , because because he starts talking about this and he he says because the the demand for Evie's going down in in the united states , he says people are finally seeing the reality .

He said on wednesday , speaking in his capacity of the head of japan's automobile manufacturers association so he this there's no one who knows more about cars than this guy , right , and in toyota is the preeminent car company in the world , arguably right . And he says people are finally seeing what's going on here .

Now , what he said was basically that he stepped down as the chief executive after 14 years on the job . But he said the auto industry should hedge its bets by continuing to invest in hybrid , gasoline , electric cars , all different sorts . Right , because we don't know what technology is going to end up leading to where we need to go .

And so he said there needs to be a transition . But evs may not be the best path forward . And you can read this , an interesting quote .

Speaker 4

He says there are many ways to climb the mountain that is , achieving carbon neutrality . Um , and so that's , that's basically what he says there , that one , and he tells a small group of reporters about that .

Uh , he said most probably toyota have been vocal than their western peers about the challenges , more vocal , sorry , than their western peers About the challenges evs face . And then your term , including high costs , resource crunches and limited charging infrastructure now , those are all questions in new mexico , right ?

Speaker 2

We don't have the infrastructure . The costs are incredibly high , especially given our averaging come here . That's a lot of reach for most new mexicans . Okay , so you start looking at all of this and toyota is saying you better hold on because because we're not sure about this .

Speaker 4

You should add in that quote you better not do a government mandate on what kind of car you need to be buying .

Speaker 2

Okay , so that's a great point . And that's exactly what he says later in the article . It's like you read the article Uh , with their slower rollouts , japanese brands await judgment on whether they failed to catch the wave in time or correctly read the general population's readiness to make the ev shift . So there's no doubt toyota is making a judgment call here .

They're not tesla , right . They're not gm , they're not ford , who's gone way out ahead of this . And now ford is having to pull back on all their evs Because they're having to pull back on their production , because they're getting killed on it .

In fact , general motors said last week it was delaying the opening of an electric pickup truck factory in michigan , and this week it abandoned a self-imposed target to build 400,000 electric vehicles by 2024 . The wall street journal reported that ford motors was considering cutting a Workshift at the plant that builds the electric f-150 , the lightning pickup .

The demand for that has been faltering , okay . So so you see this and you start going . When you have a government that gets involved and pushes these companies , all sudden ford goes head over heels , gm goes head over heels they're in trouble , right , because government pushed him into it and forced it versus People actually buying it .

I'm not saying evs are a bad idea . I'm saying forcing people to buy evs through a government .

Speaker 4

Yeah , no horrible idea . Yeah , just mandating it is just not . That's not how our government is supposed to be run at all . Right it's not their job to tell you what kind of car you can drive or can't drive or provide you money to do it , which is what they're doing , right . Or penalize you if you don't , which is another part of the plan .

Speaker 2

Later down the road , right which will really hurt middle-income and low-income families in the state . So the last quote , which is the one you mentioned , this is from the chairman , toyota , toyota on . Toyota says I have continued to say what I see as reality .

He goes on to say if regulations are created based on ideals , it is regular users or be the ones who suffer . That is said perfectly by the head of Toyota , because he's exactly right . If you have an ideal that we're going to get rid of gas powered cars , no matter what anybody thinks , you're going to hurt the consumer . They have no choice .

They get killed . On the cost the average cost of an EV is still over $50,000 and this is what makes New Mexico's choice unbelievably irresponsible .

Speaker 4

Well , I wouldn't say it's New Mexico's choice , it is . You know , from the tweets that I see that come out of the governor's office is very clear that she is trying to make herself . You know , look , we are a leader in this . You know , new movement for you know , blah , blah , blah . Climate change , blah , blah , blah . This is what we're doing .

We're going to make you all drive your these cars . Meanwhile , she's not driving them , by the way , but you need to drive them , or I'm . It's just , it's again , it's fall . It's just like not being tuned in , just not being tuned in .

Speaker 2

Well , I don't think it's not being tuned in . I think it's . She thinks government should make the decision for you . I think she's very tuned in to what she thinks well , she doesn't care what you think right , or I think , or people who actually have to buy the cars thinks . In fact , in the article in which you saw , one of them was on .

Fox said another blue state unleashes electric vehicle mandates . Walking the walk , which is some of what you were talking about . She was doing , yeah , but , but here's basically the portion of this article . That's the pull takeaway from this and why it is so destructive .

It says earlier this year , luhangrisham issued a so-called clean car rule which mandates that automakers deliver increasing percentages of new net zero emission cars and light duty trucks for sale in New Mexico each year , beginning in 2026 . Okay , again , that's less than three years from now , just so you know .

Okay , model year 2027 vehicles sold in 2026 must be 43 percent zero emissions right now , basically 1 percent of New Mexicans dry DVs . That number is ridiculous and this is exactly what we're talking about . The head of Toyota Motor Corps says don't do this government can't force this transition . Allow the automakers to put good products out there .

Things like hybrids , better fuel economy for your gas powered engines , work toward something that people actually want to buy and they can afford . But when the government steps in , like Governor Luhangrisham is trying to do right here with an unelected board telling you you have to drive an EV . That is going to drive up costs on gas powered cars .

It's going to put that out of reach for most working families and for people who buy the expensive EV . They get extra government money to do it , so the rich people that get that Tesla and Santa Fe they keep getting the cash well , and you know Paul guessing from Rio Grande Foundation .

Speaker 4

I read an article . He actually did a great editorial in the in the journal this past weekend . He did a great job and he also covered it on his podcast , the Tipping Point , and we really like Paul a lot , so he does a really good job .

And one thing I took away from what he said was you know , what's missing here , too , is EV drivers won't have to pay a certain tax . Right , I can't remember the name of the tax , but there's a tax , your tax by your fuel right , well , that's . And so he , that's what it was . It was a fuel tax .

And he said and that tax is specifically used to to make our roads better . Right to work on our roads . So here they're going to be using the roads but not having to buy in . There's going to be no tax put towards that . Buy an EV driver as well .

Speaker 2

And he and they're heavier and they're heavier cars .

Speaker 4

That was his whole point . So anyway , I thought that was kind of interesting . So you know . Again , this is kind of what we talked about . She did say it's public health emergency everybody back in May she said it . She said it to the school that we showed that clip on our earlier thing .

Be careful what she calls a public health emergency , because when you know that's coming when she says it , that means a mandate's coming pretty close after , as my guess this is a great example , though , of what happens when government says go , do this .

Speaker 2

Ford and GM jump , they're in financial trouble over it . Toyota says wait a minute , we're going to let the consumer take us where we need to go . By the way , toyota , right now their hybrid cars are flying off , flying off the dealership floors , flying off , so they're making as many as they can , as they should .

Nothing wrong with EVs , but there's something wrong with the government saying you're going to drive these EVs , we're going to pay you rich guy to drive these EVs and , for those of you who are low income or middle income , we're going to drive up the cost of internal combustion engine cars , so you can't afford them you know , and I just kind of this kind of

dawn on me because we have two daughters that are coming up in the driving age , right , so what used EV car are we going to be getting the kids to drive around ?

Speaker 4

I mean , think about that , even like so , in three years , ella , our little producer , ella , will be driving , right , right , she'll be driving actually before then . But so what ? She might get fined if she's driving a gasoline powered car .

Speaker 2

No , no , but she'll . She'll definitely a . You'll pay more for gas be the cost to buy that car will be higher because there'll be fewer of those reliable cars . Remember , if you live out in Clovis and you got to go to Clayton every day , you're not going to do it with an EV .

Now , if you live in Roswell and you know you need to go to Hobbs every day , you're not going to be doing it with an EV . We all know this . We all know this isn't going to happen . The actual numbers aren't going to happen . What is going to happen is government punishment if you don't do what they want .

And , by the way , none of this is going to impact global temperatures none of it . So again , this whole thought process that the government's going to bigfoot business to do what it wants . This is the problem . You have people in our government who are making decisions about things like what kind of car you should drive .

They have no understanding of the automobile industry . They clearly have no understanding of a family budget and they definitely don't have any understanding of the constitution anymore . It doesn't look like . So all of this is incredibly .

Speaker 4

It's frustrating , you know so well , hopefully maybe somebody can come in and crush those mandates after she's out of the office well , who knows , who knows , I guess , we'll wait and see on that one we will so moving on yeah , I this is hard because this the whole situation we have right now with the Israeli Hamas conflict is continuing to get worse .

To me , well , it's getting worse in in the ways of how the , how people here on the western side of the country are responding to this .

Even in in colleges , on campus universities , you're seeing more and more , you know , racism and racist movement really well , it's anti-semitic right , I mean it's coming out and it's coming out , in droves it's coming out and I mean , I know we're going to show some video of some of this stuff because it is horrifying , you know , and I I'll wait , I'll let you

show this first before I jump in well , we'll just go to a few examples of this and then we want to show some polling data .

Speaker 2

So it makes sense to what you're seeing . And this isn't just , oh , a couple of fringe . People are saying some things that that aren't a big deal . Have you noticed now ? The floodgates have opened now , where people just feel like they can be anti-semitic , like this , is it ? sound like you just no , it's just hey , how you doing , I don't you know .

They just say they say things like I don't like Jewish people , and so they just say it and it's like what are we doing here ? And so we start for you out , george Washington University .

Anti-Semitic Signs and Violence Against Jews

Okay , they have some buildings at George Washington University and some of the students put up signs and and basically put up signs on the side of the buildings that are anti-semitic , no doubt . I mean , take a look at some of these . Look at the first one , else you can go to the next picture . It says glory to the martyrs .

Those are the people who went into Israel and murdered 1400 men , women and children and then took another 200 , some of them Americans and brought them over into Gaza and continue to hold them hostage . These guys put on the side of a university building glory to our murders .

Speaker 4

And then they call the president out . Yeah , the president of the university .

Speaker 2

Yeah they call yeah president , uh , graham , right , yeah , says he's complicit in the genocide in Gaza . I'm sorry , what genocide is there in Gaza ? This is just horrendous . And then another one , and this is one that , if you don't know what this basically means free Palestine from the river to the sea .

That basically means wipe out Israel , just get rid of Israel , and that's what . From the river to the sea means Just basically pull all the Israelis out of Israel . They're done . And so this stuff is horrendous .

Speaker 4

And again you go back and there's one Jewish nation , one you know . So it's just like I don't understand , I just don't get this , why they're they're called . You know what is the whole thing occupation and and the you know , it's just , it's just garbage . It's like , okay , israel has always been the Jewish people's nation . That's been their nation .

Speaker 2

Thousands of years , right ?

Speaker 4

This is not something somebody brought up 80 years or something like that .

Speaker 1

I mean some kids saying that right , it's a college kid , right .

Speaker 4

You know any history at all or you just listening to whatever is being shelled out at you , which is what I think , a lot of this garbage that we are seeing now across university campuses . What we're seeing is they're being fed different information right which we've talked about , from either professors or media or whoever whatever groups are a part of right .

Speaker 2

Well , yeah , and in , in , in . Now you see , more and more it's becoming . You know , not only the open , you know anti-Semitism , but the violence , right . So in Chicago , an elderly Jewish man is walking and , and , and you see a kind of a pro-Palestinian parade , and and you can see the video and what happens to him .

And what you'll see here is he's walking , they just attack him . They just attack him and they throw him down on the ground and they start pounding on him . They just start pounding on him . In America , this is what we do .

Speaker 4

Are you ?

Speaker 2

kidding . Yeah , oh , absolutely , they filmed it . Yeah , they felt well . Why wouldn't they film it ? Well , and Mos filmed it when they went in and murdered everybody . Why wouldn't they start filming this ? But but this is what scares me , is that now this is out in the open , it's like , okay , this , this is it . Now . Is this what we do ?

Is this who we are ? I , I don't know . I mean , I certainly hope not .

Speaker 4

I certainly hope not too . I certainly I can't believe that we've be , we're becoming something kind of you know , even remotely that appears like what we dealt with , what the Jews dealt with 80 years ago in the Holocaust . I just can't believe that . This is kind of the angle that things are going to , are shifting towards , like it's it's mind boggling .

There's not any words for it . It makes me furious , quite frankly . But you know and some people actually commented to me personally that the last show , when we were really covering this , they said , Christy , you sounded kind of depressed and then somebody else said , no , she was just really serious . And it's true , it's just a really heartbreaking situation .

And what's bothering to like bothers him to me , is now some of these folks that are speaking out in pro-Hamas rallies and all these things are saying well , the Israel , Israel is lying about what happened on October 7th . They're lying . And I'm like they . They didn't lie . Hamas filmed themselves , they were proud of it , they put it on .

I mean , they would take somebody else's phone , film it on that person's phone , post it on that person's Facebook page . I mean , this is like it's not , like there's not , it's not out there for you to consume and educate yourself . This is what they did . They promoted themselves doing it and I don't know why in the world .

Now they're coming back and saying , oh , Israel's lying and there's been no proof of this at all . They're lying . I'm like , wow , this is just the area that we're headed now .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and it's well . It's also the same group that needed safe spaces on college campuses now come out and they're openly anti-Semitic . What ? And it's not just on college campuses , Ella , let's bring the sound up on this next one and

Bike Lane Conflict and Ignorance

listen to this guy . You got a woman and her child riding a bike in New York City and there's a car blocking the bike lane .

Speaker 1

I understand that I am in fact .

Speaker 2

Yes , if she was a Jew . I knew it , I knew it , I knew it , I knew it .

Speaker 1

I knew it , I knew it . I knew you was a Jew . I knew it , I knew it , I knew it . I knew you was a Jew . You people are the devil . Now we're going . I knew it . You are the devil . Now we're going . Hey , bro , get the camera . She is trying . This is why you're doing this .

Speaker 2

You think you were typing there it is , yeah , just , I mean a little a little . Just the picture for those of you just listening there's a little boy in a little car seat with her .

Speaker 4

In listening to .

Speaker 2

In listening to this clown , yeah , and it's just . There's no , there's no holding back . Now I mean , it's just what , why would you ? Now , it's just , this has led to something that makes it look like are we going to walk out of this ? I mean , are we going to ? Are cooler heads going to prevail and realize we're better than this ?

I certainly hope so , but if you go to Cornell University , the wheels are off there . There's graffiti all over Cornell , on the sidewalks and you know blank Israel on the sidewalks . And then , right by the Cornell store , it says Israel is fascist . Really , the only democracy in the Middle East , the thriving democracy , is fascist .

Meanwhile , they are surrounded by countries that are complete fascists . But whatever , I mean , the ahistorical idiocy of this is ridiculous , and you actually go in ?

Speaker 4

we're not even in this , for today we don't have video or anything , but just listening to some of these groups that are in favor of Hamas and of Palestine , it's like I think what is it ? I think it's Gays for Palestine or Gays for Palestinians or something like that , and I'm like you know what would happen to you ?

Do you have any idea what would happen to you ? Like this just shows like an ignorance of understanding who these people are , who Hamas is no idea .

Speaker 1

No idea , I'm like you're just making that .

Speaker 4

You just want to cause , like , do you just need a cause to be behind ?

Speaker 2

Maybe so but the problem is where we are now is people go and take these ignorant positions and then they're reinforced by the ignorance around them , and then they're reinforced by the ignorance online .

That's all they see , and if you have your feed , your Twitter feed or your Instagram feed it's gonna be filled with this ignorance , and so that's the part of this that's terrifying , and the numbers are ugly . So there's a Harvard Harris poll out , and I wanted to show you this because this Harvard Harris poll is terrifying . All right , it's absolutely terrifying .

Speaker 4

Let's get to it .

Speaker 2

So , yeah , we'll go real quick here . Ella , let's show the Harvard Harris poll , and okay . So first and foremost here , let's just kind of tighten in on this just a little bit . And what the first thing was is there's a chart here that says was the attack on Israel , would you consider it a genocidal attack ?

And 75% of the people across the board , on all age groups , said yeah , this is a genocidal attack . Okay , now here's what's scary . It's the next chart here and here's what was asked of this . Okay , and that is the question is , els , let's just tighten this up so I can see it just a little bit . There we go .

Pro-Palestine Propaganda and Youth Impact

Do you think the Hamas killing of 1200 Israeli citizens now up to 1400 , by the way on Israel can be justified by the grievances of the Palestinians , or not justified ? Okay , now what they do is they break it down by age group . Okay , if you go down to 18 to 24 year olds , 51% say it was justified .

51% of 18 to 24 year olds say it's justified to go slaughter women and children . 25 to 34 year olds 48% . Okay , now , as you get older , then the numbers fly way off and people have their senses and realize if you're 35 and up , your belief is that this is not justified in any way , right ?

So , for example , 61% of people that are 35 to 44 believe it wasn't justified . 77% of 45 to 54 year olds 55% excuse me , 89% of 55 to 64 year olds said it's not justified . In 91% , a 65 year old plus say it's not justified .

But look at that number 18 to 24 year olds 51% say going in and slaughtering women and children is justified for the Palestinians because of their cause . That is a horrendous number . It's a terrifying number and it shows me that we as a country are heading somewhere that is very , very dark .

Speaker 4

Well , and I think that these younger kids , really I think they think this is a revolution , right that just again that it's time for the Hamas and the Palestinian people to revolt back against Israel because of them keeping them down , keeping them basically , and I'm like , again , you do not understand how this has been actually going .

And even just we were talking about the other day the blocking of the food aid that they've been trying to get into Gaza , and Hamas block the trucks and say , no , you can't come in . Like they want to create this environment where it's unhealthy . They have one goal and that is to eliminate the Jewish people . That's their whole goal .

They don't really have government future . Like that's not what they're trying to do here .

Speaker 2

And which is too bad , because there are plenty of citizens who deserve a better life than what Hamas would ever give them . But if you view everything through this lens of we're oppressed because Hamas tells us we are , because Hamas won't allow an actual government to build something , then you're never getting out of it . And they love it . And don't kid yourself .

They are digging those tunnels underneath Gaza and kids are doing it , and when those tunnels collapse , kids are dying . Do you think Hamas cares ?

Speaker 4

No , no and I think that that's what's so frightening is this whole oppression propaganda that's going out . That that's why you're seeing the younger people or these groups that feel like at some point they were oppressed , so now they have to be on team Palestine .

Speaker 2

Yeah , the Yale or Harvard .

Speaker 4

Yeah , they've been oppressed , the Harvard students been oppressed .

Speaker 2

They've been really oppressed , so anyway , no , so there we go .

Speaker 4

And I will say here like Ella , not to put you on the spot , but Ella was sharing with us that you said that even like your TikTok feeds and stuff that you were looking at was just kind of filling with all this like pro Palestine , protect the people .

Speaker 3

Yeah , in early October I was just like right after it happened and for the next , like two weeks afterwards , like the whole week of and the week after , all on Instagram , all on TikTok was all just pro Palestinians and just riots in New York mostly . And then just like saying like , if you back Israel , then like what are you doing ?

Like you're supporting murder , and just like videos that were just confusing people , because people in the comments were like wait , aren't like like the people in Israel like dying and they're like but Palestine like Palestine , they're like Palestine matters . And so just be backing that the entire time and I guess nobody was really like educated .

Speaker 4

Yeah .

Speaker 2

That's how you do it .

Speaker 4

That's how you go . You get the , get the attention of the youth and start funneling whatever information you want them to keep repeating . Yeah , which ?

Speaker 2

we'll get to in just a second as we move along here , but you're starting to see the narrative change too , and this is one of the things we talked about last week . In the media , yeah , and the media narrative is one of showing basically , now it's go into Gaza , show what's going on and basically show all the buildings and start to turn this back toward .

Hey Israel , when are you going to stop doing ? this oh of course , right , and so that's what we have here , and this is from the New York Times . Biden calls for more Gaza aid while stressing support for Israel . Okay , but all the pictures are showing obviously bombed out buildings .

That , again , hamas knew what they were doing when they went in and murdered Israelis . They knew this was going to happen , so now they hide behind their people and hope to create a PR war that helps them and hurts their people at the same time . It's unbelievable . And then you go to the New Yorker and they start putting out articles .

Their latest one another hospital in Gaza is bleeding . Here we go , right .

Speaker 4

Let's try to build the emotion Yep .

Speaker 2

Washington Post . Gaza hospitals and clinics in crisis health toll or death toll rather keep surging . Health ministry says there you go , right and again . So , as you see this all start to angle in the way that it angles . It's just . This is where we're headed , and there's going to be more and more of a call of wait .

You know you can't allow this to be one of those things that isn't finished . Israel has to protect itself . If they stop now , it just will happen again . It's going to happen again . They have to get rid of Hamas . Yeah , they have to , without hopefully creating a wider war , which we'll see .

Speaker 4

And I guess I'm still really surprised is why are we not talking about the hostages in these headlines Like why are we not investigating ? Who are these ? You know the particular people that have been taken . Americans are over there that are being held hostage . We're not talking about that . I don't know why . Right , why are we not talking ?

Why don't you talk to the families in Israel of the ? You know that they've got people that are being taken hostage ? Why not actually tell some of the other side of the stories , I guess ? Well , no it's amazing .

Speaker 2

Believe me , if we had a Republican president , you don't think we'd have a countdown of the number of Americans that are still being held hostage right now With a plan to like yeah , how are we gonna get it out ?

Speaker 4

Yeah , exactly .

Speaker 2

All right , and this all does tie into the border .

Speaker 4

Right .

Speaker 2

Because we continue with a massive open border problem and the numbers are scary . The number of people that have come in on the terrorist watch list . Take a look at these numbers fiscal year 2017 , we caught two people coming in on the terrorist watch list . Fiscal year 18 , six people 19, . Zero , 23 . Check it out 15 in 2021 , 98 in 2022 and 169 this year .

This is terrifying when you look at those numbers . When you have an open border where you don't know who's coming in , and clearly , when we grab the people that are on the terrorist watch list , great .

But you know there are plenty more that we're not getting Plenty of gotaways thousands of gotaways every single month and you know some of those people are on the terrorist watch list and so do the people who are watching our border .

So not only do we have this happening , but at the same time in San Diego , at the Border Patrol there , they're already issuing warnings .

Speaker 4

And so together putting out this thing called a situational awareness foreign fighters of Israel Hamas conflict may potentially be encountered at Southwest border .

Basically , the San Diego Field Office Intelligence Unit is assessing that individuals are reacting to the current Israel Hamas conflict , may attempt to travel to or from the areas from the Middle East through our borders . And they basically put pictures here of the patches , the Hamas patches and some of the other . You know , palestinian Jihad patch , hezbollah patch .

They're showing them to make sure , hey , make sure you're aware that this is expected now and keep your eyes peeled for this . I mean , this is something that should be going out across all of our borders , I would say Even into Canada . You know the northern borders too , but I don't know if that's happening yet .

Speaker 2

Well , no , but it's a huge , huge concern . Obviously , this is something down the road will continue to talk about . So and all right . So we want to hit one other big story .

Speaker 4

Right . This is something that's always been really worrisome to me because of having teenage daughters , having you know teenagers and just how much influence social media has on our kids . There is , you know , some new information that's coming out . Ap issued a new story here and it's talking about how there's several states now that are suing Facebook .

They're saying meta , but it's Facebook claiming its social platforms are addictive and harm children's mental health , which this is just not a shocker to me . I think you know it affects grown people , so the fact that this would be affecting younger teen generations does not surprise me .

I'm glad to see that people are trying to step out against this and saying enough is enough , like this is just . We can't get our kids away

Negative Impact of Social Media

from this . The Gallup story that actually came out too , is talking about how much time these kids are spending a day on social media platforms . Teenagers are spending 4.8 hours a day on social media .

Guys , I think teenage girls are up a little bit higher than the 4.8 hours and boys are a little bit lower than that , but again , it's too much time and scrolling , I mean . I don't think they're on Facebook particularly , I think it's . Instagram , tiktok , that kind of thing . But it's the comparison game , right ?

It's a don't you wish you looked like this or don't you wish you had that ? And now we're seeing . You know , suicide has always been high with teenage girls . Anyway , it's always been a at risk area that teen girls have always had pretty high numbers when they come through on these CDC things .

But basically now they're coming out and saying there's clear links now between the mental illness and the consumption of social media , especially in teenage girls . And then you know , before they were saying it could be playing into it , it could be kind of a factor .

But now this guy I follow this guy John Haight is how you say his name , I believe and he studies this and he's written a lot of books about it . He is a professor at a university and he just basically said that it's showing most teenage girls now 57% say that they experience persistent depression because of their time on social media .

And now he's also come out and said this is a social media is a substantial cause . It's not just a court , it's not just like part of the problem . It is the problem and it says he's leading to depression and anxiety and therefore behaviors related to depression , anxiety , including self harm , and suicide .

So the last thing I wanted to say is he did a book on why is this coming out Like ? Why are we seeing such an uptick since about 2010 in the ? You know the high depression , the high anxiety ? People think it's all COVID related , and what they're finding in research it's not just COVID related . This is a lot of just how our culture now is working .

Basically , our kids , when we were growing up , right , we had this , he says here . We came from a play based childhood which involved a lot of risky , unsupervised play , which is essential for overcoming fear and fragility .

Now we're a phone based childhood which blocks normal human development by taking time away from sleep , play and in person socializing , as well as causing addiction and drowning kids in social comparisons that they can never win .

That scares me and I just really , you know , I , I want I mean we do our best here to try to manage our girls and what , how much time they're allowed on it . But I'm glad to see that some people are coming out , some states are coming out and actually suing these companies and saying you've made this addictive .

It's having massive health complications for our children in this country . Stop . I mean , if we were just handing out I don't know some sort of drug to teenagers all the time and having a company that was making all the money off of it ?

Speaker 2

Well , we are . It's the pharmaceutical industry . Well , I understand .

Speaker 4

But , like the target market here , there's definitely they've looked at these algorithms and there's definitely an addictive Motive to these . And again , I know that social dilemmas been out for a long time , but once I saw that documentary a few years ago it changed the way I thought , I think about anything on social media . So and and has .

How it relates to children , so in teenagers , so no , it's true .

Speaker 2

We I mean we had a . We lived in a world where you spent time outside . You spent time with your friends , you spent time interacting , and sometimes those interactions didn't go well , but you learn from it .

Now you get on a phone , you locked yourself in a room and you may never have those interactions one on one that don't go well , but you actually need those . You need those times when , when things maybe go off the rails a little bit and you learn something about yourself and how to deal with situations . But now what do we have ?

Speaker 4

I know , like I remember I mean used to go build tree forts , right , my brother always built forts .

I can't tell you how many times we all got hurt and fell and did all this , you know , and there was no parent in sight , really , cause that was not what we did Our parents didn't hover over us and make sure that we didn't skin our knee or bang our head or hit ourselves with a hammer on our finger , which I can't tell you how many times I did that as

a kid , I just think you know . And as a teenager , we just didn't have this , you know , it just was not part of our livelihood , and I think we're seeing a major change now . No , no , I think you're right . And .

Speaker 2

I think you know it's one other thing here's it could be . I mean this what we're about to show you is amusing , okay , but it but it's likely to lead to more problems , which is , you know , a bunch of people sent me this clip and said , oh my gosh , can you believe what Greta Thunberg has said ? Can you believe what she's trying to push now ?

And I was like , what are you talking about ? And then I watched this clip .

Speaker 5

The planet if we want to continue fighting battles . Like environmentally conscious humans , we must make the change to sustainable tanks and weaponry . There are so many new concepts for our battery powered fighter jets that can carry many more missiles biodegradable missiles , of course .

Something literally everybody can do to stop this nonsense is , for example , block the roads to gardens and farms so the plants don't get overrun by these heavy , heavy tanks . Hand grenades very important . If you use hand grenades , please use vegan grenades . No animal should have to give their life for all this mayhem and chaos .

They have a special sticker on them . You really can't miss them in the grenade market or wherever you buy them . Yeah , I cover all of this and more in my newest book .

Speaker 2

Vegan wars , okay , okay it does look like she's really saying that , though , absolutely it looks real , it's totally fake , but you , but you still see it and go oh my gosh , what are we going to start seeing going forward , and how are you ever going to know if it's real or not ? I mean , there's so much of this that is .

That's scary , it's like oh , I saw the video . That doesn't mean anything anymore . What ?

Speaker 4

if it's not real . I mean , it is kind of it's getting overwhelming . Even in my business and design business I'm starting to see all these AI drawings and renderings . But they look so real . You think somebody did that house . And so you're I'm like , oh my gosh , that's so beautifully decorated , or that I love that design of that kitchen .

And then somebody you have to read the comments to find out it was AI . That's how good it's getting , yeah , which is frightening . Then there's again this perfection or manipulation or whatever it is you know , like Even the ads you see .

Speaker 2

You know you'll see like a pixel , like Google doing that or their phone or whatever , and all of a sudden they'll have a picture , look a little grizzly , right , and they're like , oh , but we'll fix it and make everybody look fantastic . Boom . And you're like , wait , that's not reality , that's not reality .

Speaker 4

And it's really just like keeps that comparison game going . For teenagers and adults there's plenty . I mean , if I'm on Instagram too long , I get bummed out . You know , it's like , oh , I can't live up to all this , or whatever it is , so we just have to take it much smaller .

Speaker 2

This is scary . This whole show is scary . That's it . Are we getting to something good ? Wrap with this , okay . This isn't good , oh , no , no , no . Well , it's sort of good the guy survived .

Speaker 4

Okay , are you level of good and my level of good All right Wind Surfer , and this is unbelievable .

Speaker 2

He's out windsurfing and ends up running into a whale . Check this out . A wing foil surfer in Sydney miraculously escaped without serious injury after being hit by a breaching humpback whale calf . I mean , just take some Boom . Now what happened was his his leg strap .

The whale accidentally caught it and started dragging him down 20 to 30 feet , and then he finally wiggled out of it and got back up , back up 55 year old surfer and he's in a whale way compared to that guy oh tons I mean I don't even know how many tons of humpback .

Speaker 4

Yeah , that guy is lucky he got . He got away from that thing . Okay , this is some good news . Okay , A show . We really like the Chosen . Yep , we're big fans . If you haven't got to watch the Chosen yet , I know the first couple of seasons are now on Netflix , so that's a good opportunity for you to watch it . If you haven't .

Speaker 2

It is the single , but if you want to spend some time too , plus if you have friends , maybe who who don't spend a lot of time in the Bible , who maybe aren't along a faith path or maybe very far along a faith path and haven't been able to find something that kind of brings Christ to life , this show is a great place to have him .

Speaker 4

Yeah , I mean , you know he does take some licenses , yeah , of course , and you know making some . You know making a , basically a movie of the disciples and of Christ , but it's so well done and it's it is based on scripture . I mean , if you've read your scripture , then this kind of brings those stories to life .

And they've announced that they're coming out with their next season and it will be in February . They're going to release it , or a little earlier than they anticipated , and they're going to put it in theaters first , and then , you know , they do warn you that it's going to start getting a little bit more sad .

I mean , obviously , if you've read scripture , you know that the crucifixion is coming Right . The resurrection does come too . So I don't know if they're going to cover that part or not , I would think in later seasons yeah .

So that you know that they I don't think it happens in this season , I don't believe , but it's starting to get to the point where Jesus's ministry is in full bloom Right , and so that comes with a lot of conflict . Yeah , great show .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 4

Just you know , especially in for your kids to watch it , because it really , again , it brings it to life , especially if you've read the story to your kids , any of the stories that you found in the Bible , any of the scriptures . It helps bring it to life and gives a face to the character of these , to these disciples .

Speaker 2

Yeah , check it out . And one other thing , a couple actually a couple of quick things , a couple of good episodes , if you haven't checked them out . Jason Rantz was our last episode . He talks about what's killing America , meaning what's happening in our cities that we can fix , that there are things we can do to help .

Speaker 4

Maybe what's happening here in Albuquerque , what's happening on the West coast , jason talks about that , with crime and homelessness and all that , and I did appreciate that he's got solutions . Yeah , he does , it's not just hey , let me complain about this . He has real solutions . Yeah , absolutely .

Speaker 2

And then Alex Epstein . A couple of episodes before that , Alex wrote the moral case for fossil fuels and fossil future . Talks about how important it is to have affordable energy and nobody produces that better , more cleanly than we do in New Mexico . So he's really interesting too .

So if you get a chance to check those episodes out , do it , and of course , we'll be back with you on Monday .

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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