Episode 36: Governor MLG Gaslights While Overmatched Legislators Have No Clue

We have a lot packed in this show , so we're going to be hauling through a bunch of different stuff , some of the stuff we've been talking about , some of the governor's issues . We're going to get into details on that . We're going to talk about some of what the journal did in just the horrendous way they covered a Sunday issue with Moms for Liberty .

We're going to get on that . There's just some of the stuff that's craziness . And then we're going to take a bit of a dive into another issue as well that I think you'd be very interested in in transitioning kids , which was which was wild too . It was on NBC News . So we've got all this stuff . We're going to move this episode long .

It's not going to be a particularly long episode , but it's going to be packed .

Don't get mad at me for that , but it's D Hotamiio , yeah Says . Thank you , I'm appreciative for you moving fast on this issue and getting the facts out as quickly as you did . Great job laying out your research on the actual facts . Another one , arista Chacana , said good program today .

So much can be said with wish the uninformed media in New Mexico would stop softballing her , and by her they mean our governor , michelle Lujan-Krisham . All New Mexico should be listening to your podcast and bias information about our state . Thank you so much . Thank you , debbie Anderson , for that comment . Keep it up , your voice is heard .

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Oh , I know we're a pretty fun couple Actually we like to joke around quite a bit , but you wouldn't know that from the last couple of weeks of the shows Just because it's been such heavy content which we listen . We're both diehard news people too , so we appreciate that when it's time to talk serious .

But something really cool and fun that we've been a part of for several years is the San Fidel St Joseph's Mission School fundraiser . It's an annual fundraiser , very small mission school in San Fidel and we fell in love with this principal years ago , antonio Trujillo .

He's the principal out there , yep , and just a great guy running that school and yeah , it's a Catholic school that you know they do such a good job .

The school always , you know , is always right on that edge and we were happy to to host their event over the weekend . Dean Staley , channel 13 anchor , was the , he was the emcee and and I did the , I did the auction . Up there there's Dino behind me , like I can't believe this guy's auctioning something off .

I am auctioning auctioning cookies right there which that particular box sold for $400 .

And I will tell you , I don't care what faith you're part of , if you go to that school and you're not changed , I would be shocked . Yeah , I mean , I think the Buddhist monks come out there and work with the kids and just , you know , be in that space , because you can feel God's presence in that space . So anyway , just great cause . We loved it .

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No doubt that she can't take guns into parks in various places that she tries to lay out . We're not going to address that so much today . What we want to address today and I went through the press conference and I started picking my way through the whole hour of it just saying what , what are we really seeing here ?

Cause , as you , as you , spend some time listening to some of our leaders what starts to become very evident is they have no clue as to the challenges that we face , and that's what's so scary is they don't have a great grasp of how serious the situation is or what can be done to fix it .

And so that's one of the things is I watched this whole thing and we pulled a bunch of clips . We're going to run the clips and then we'll give you some reaction to them so you know where the governor stands , where the head of the Senate stands , where , well , the house speaker stands to some degree , he's a little better and we'll get into that .

And then , even where a representative , chacy , stands , she gave some , some comments as well . So we're going to play these and move it along here . But what was so concerning to me is number one their desire to play politics , no matter what . That's all they care about .

They don't care about solving the issue , they care about the politics of it , and so that's one thing that strikes you . And then what you'll hear is you're going to hear a constant drumbeat of mental health . They say mental health or gun violence , instead of locking up criminals who commit the violence with the guns . They don't ever talk about any of that .

And it wasn't that I didn't , I didn't pull those clips . They don't exist , okay . So that's what part of this is so damaging . I think that we all look ahead and we say we want solutions , I don't care what party you're from .

Find a solution to the violence that is plugging every corner of the state of New Mexico , and especially the Albuquerque area , and their response is staggeringly inadequate .

Whether it be the House of Representatives in New Mexico , whether it be the center or whether it be the governor , they have no answers and they gaslight in a way that is infuriating , because as we sat here , and actually as we sat at the event we were at this weekend , I started to think man , I'm sick of getting mad about stuff .

I'm sick of looking at things and going and getting so frustrated . I feel like it's not in my character . I mean that I think you know that I don't like getting mad about stuff . But then when you listen to the governor stand up and say the Republicans had offered no solutions . That's a bold , faced lie and we'll get into that in a second .

That's not helpful . Why don't you just stand up and say we haven't met the moment , but we will now ? That would at least let everyone start to believe that you've got the best interest of the state of New Mexico at heart . But the governor , michelle Lubehangresha , won't do it .

She'll lie , she'll say things she knows aren't true , and then the worst part is , she'll keep going down a path that we all know won't work .

She doesn't have a good record to stand on , so instead it's a , it becomes a form of power , and this is the way it's going to be and I'm the boss .

And while I agree that you should show competence to be a governor , you also have to be have a character where you are ethically being honest to your voters , and I believe that that is one of the biggest flaws we've seen in some of our leaders , not only here locally , but on a national scale too , and believe me , it's not just , it's not just Democrats .

Mlg talks about trying to solve this problem and what she's doing to solve the problem . And remember , the one thing you're not going to hear in here is putting violent criminals behind bars . Go ahead , yeah , okay , okay , okay fantastic .

It's more than double , I believe , than the last eight years in the former administration , which is not a competition . It's just to highlight how much we are investing in turning a corner in a meaningful way , but the outcomes certainly aren't there .

All the money in the world can't make the state of New Mexico and the city of Albuquerque safer when fentanyl is pumping up through Mexico and destroying families across the state and you've done nothing about it .

These are the areas that you can fix , governor , and the fact that you just continue to say , look at how much money we've approved in the state budget , that doesn't count for anything . It's not fixing the problem . So in us , you're going to use that money in a wise way . Enough , talk about it . My opinion .

It's a pretrial detention presumption . Yeah , that was killed in the first committee , and that bill would have provided a clear process of presenting cases where the defendant should have been detained prior to trial and also provides due process protections for the defendants . That was shot down , killed in first committee .

Now we have HJR 9 , denial of bail , which was also killed in second committee . That's what allowed the legislature to set conditions under which defendants may be denied right . No , it's done . Hb 58 , additional violent felonies killed in first committee . That would have added 12 additional crimes to the list of qualifying charges for New Mexico . Three strikes .

No one's ever been charged under it , so that would have changed this . That was part of the crime plan that we had during the campaign . The legislature steps up on the Republican side and says please pass this dead . And , believe me , it . Had the governor gone to the legislature and said wait a minute , hey , I want this , it would have been passed .

She didn't , so out , it went . And the list keeps going Right .

That would have created a third degree felony of unlawful carrying of a firearm or trafficking a controlled substance . Hb 60 enhanced and it's seen for fentanyl that was killed in first committee . Hb 61 felons in possession of a firearm that was also killed in first committee .

What you see is police officers that basically say I'm not doing the job anymore and you cannot blame them because they're targets now .

But it didn't just end with her , so she had Mimi Stewart , the Senate president , pro temp , basically in charge of the Senate .

She shifts it's like a classic debate argument where you shift from that this topic to this topic , like let me get you to look at something bright and shiny over here , and then she blames it on the former administration . So let's talk about that . Let's just see where we were with violent criminals now compared to our former administration .

We're on a pace now to come near those numbers yet again because of what they're doing . So what she is saying there is ridiculous and again it shows you she does not have a grasp of the issue . She does not have the grasp of crime and then punishment . They won't do it . They absolutely won't do it .

It's such a tough , it's tough , Mark , it's a tough situation . It's very tough .

Gail Chacy , who's a representative Okay , she's in the house of reps and she thinks she has at least a solution to some of what we're dealing with here , and just by listening to this sound bite you'll see how serious she is about solving the problem .

They need to feel safe after they have reported bullying and we have to create safe environments for both children and youth .

And then she likens it to bullying , which , again , bullying is an issue , but bullying is not on the level of the type of thing we're talking about here . We're talking about murder rates that are skyrocketing , violent crime and cartel behavior in New Mexico that is putting lives at danger every single day , and her solution is hey , let's chuck up a billboard .

I can't believe it . This is so disheartening I don't even know what to say about it .

I feel like what's really frightening is they're lacking actual solutions .

It's what you were saying , including a prohibition on automatic weapons , a 14 day waiting period for gun sales and a ban on selling guns to those under 21 . Right , okay , again , these are all gun legislative issues , right , but it's all impacting lawful gun owners . This does nothing to fight violent criminals .

This does nothing about the fact that people are in here illegally and have the illegal guns which they actually mentioned the illegal guns . Do you think these people are going through all the steps , mark ? Do you go get their guns ?

For two weeks Actually give us two weeks and then I'm sure that will help everybody know that you're a violent criminal and you should be given a gun . Those people are not buying guns at the gun store .

So I don't have any faith that he's going to be able to do anything , but in this press conference at least he seemed to grasp the issue .

My commitment to this issue , our commitment to this issue , runs deep and we are not going to get distracted by the politics of the day . We're not going to get distracted by partisan infighting .

If he's referring to his own party and basically telling them we got to step up , then good for him , let's see him do it . But his words right now have not matched his party's actions in any way , shape or form . So I give him credit for a better tone and a less clueless tone than some of his fellow legislators on that stage , which you just heard .

But right now they're just words at best .

And then I hope the media actually remember this as well , so then they can show up during session and say , hey , what about bills that actually help fight crime ? Right ?

So we'll just play them back to back and then we'll talk about them .

We are not sending people who will get the things done that need to get done to make this a safer state , and it's one of the things we've talked about a thousand times . We're scared to death that Ava and Ella are going to finish high school , go to college somewhere else and never come back , because it's not a safe state .

It doesn't provide health care that we need . It does not provide the education our kids deserve and the economic opportunity that everyone should have .

And if you remember the pressure you say , do you ever think to yourself we're on the wrong track because my own kids won't live here ? No one , nothing .

We know what's happening here and what you need to elect are leaders that really understand what's happening . They haven't gotten lost in another state . They're not living a dream life in Santa Fe .

They're actually trying to raise their families here and they're dealing with the issues all the time and they're not scared and they're bold enough to speak out about it and say this has to change . We have to actually enact and put forth the laws that we already have in place .

We have to , you know , we have to enforce those to take care of our families here in this state , and I just see this as being more proof that these guys that you have right now are not going to do it .

And we're going to do the best job that we can . But what I could tell you from this entire last week if you're not paying attention to the state reps that you voted for and where they're landing on all of these issues , do yourself a solid and make a note of where these people landed , because they're all up for reelection , they're all coming up .

One is it happened last week in the Albuquerque area , and this is one of those issues we're going to start talking a lot more about this and that is the push by by , especially climate extremists to destroy our way of life in the in the overall protest in Albuquerque last week was a great example .

Here's just a little bit of a listen to what it sounded like and what it looked like , so you can hey , hey , hey , ho , ho . Fossil fuels have got to go . Okay , well beyond the fact that no one produces fossil fuels more cleanly and efficiently than we do in New Mexico , making for affordable power for low income families .

Beyond that , they also said , and they stand up on like an overpass in Albuquerque and have a sign that says no nuclear . Okay . So these guys think with windmills and and solar , you're going to get to where you want to go , which is ludicrous , like they have no concept of what they're talking about .

If they got what they wanted , you would see immeasurable suffering in the state of New Mexico . No one could afford the power that we would need . We don't have it . We don't have the grid in place for power . That it would take and we aren't going to get there . Fossil fuels are a critical part of what we have to do .

Nuclear , to me , is a critical part of our future , but affordable energy is the centerpiece of human existence .

If you get rid of all of it , you are going to raise the level of suffering , not only in the state but in the country , beyond that that you've ever seen , and there is not a single group of people that is more clueless to the damage of their policies than these guys are . It's staggering to watch them .

Understand the issues so you can form an opinion and by the time you're old enough to vote , you'll know where you stand on those issues . Right ? But the biggest thing , the biggest concern for me is I look at this and I go oh my gosh , you're so in the dark , you have no idea what you're talking about and you just want to be part of a fun protest .

I think and this is kind of a cool movement , this is part of a cool trend right now to talk about this .

We're going to have to raise taxes on that because we can't have that carbon . Carbon becomes the devil , right , and in carbon becoming the devil , they pull carbon out of your life in every way possible , which is totally natural , by the way . Carbon , it is ridiculous .

You have one issue it reminds me of the Al Gordes kind of where all the youth like the Leonardo DiCaprio , which at the time he was in his 20s , now he's in our age , right and you get celebrities to kind of endorse your movement , which they've proven now was a bunch of hogwash back then , right .

But it's just kind of this movement that you get on instead of like a broader picture .

And when you actually start making real money and you actually start paying into the tax system and you actually need things to happen for yourself and your aging parents or whatever is happening are your children , you start going wait a minute , maybe me just being an activist about this one issue .

That really isn't the make it or break it situation that we thought it was . I feel like you kind of grow up and you find more information .

Because of some of the indoctrination , I think , of kids from a very young age all the way through all their schooling years , whatever those look like , they become hardcore believers in something that they're not able to break out of . They don't suddenly realize wait a minute , this may not be working .

And so you have a whole generation , especially in millennials , who are really hardcore leftists .

And what you start to see now is , with generation Z , it's coming back toward conservatism . Why ? Because conservatism is now counter-cultural , right . If you want to be counter-cultural , you want to be like whoa , they're kind of bringing something new to the table . That's a conservative right . You're like oh , they believe in Fimdy values . That is weird .

So I don't know . I mean , I can see exactly what you're saying , but I'm not sure that anymore that we see that sort of enlightenment as you get older . And they haven't dealt , and COVID showed us . There's so many in that generation that are more than willing to hand over their liberty .

I beg you , there you go , there you go there , you go you tell me what to do .

I know I do get a little old lady going .

And there's a great example on the front page of the journal on Sunday Moms for Liberty in the Union Face-Off and they call Moms for Liberty an extremist group . Now they think , see , like here they put it in quotes so they try to say , oh no , we're just saying quotes . What other people are saying ?

It's ridiculous to even say that the Moms for Liberty are not an extremist group , okay , but they are .

That's the controversy . Is it controversial ? Not if you're a parent . It's not actually but anyway , with critics who said some LGBTQ plus students could feel unsafe by outing them , even when they don't feel safe coming out to their families .

Okay , so what they're going after and they're calling the Moms for Liberty , calling this out as extremist In the group that they cite in all of this is the Southern Poverty Law Center . If you want to talk about that , the Southern Poverty Law Center is absolutely way on the left fringe .

So for them to call the Moms for Liberty extremists is completely and totally ridiculous , and for the Albuquerque Journal to go and cite them is sort of a Expert source . Yeah sort of a sort of a hey , they're a law group . You know they're just trying to lay it out .

You know it's absolutely horrible and the Journal should be ashamed of this story , the way it was covered . And this is the problem , this is our problem with media when it's presented this way and when it's presented in an unbalanced way like this , in a totally disingenuous way , it curbs the whole story and makes it look completely different .

This is terrible work by the Journal .

Because I do believe this article goes on , if I remember right , and says something about that we should , that APS should be very frightened by this leadership of the Moms of Liberty , because I don't know why , but they should be scared of them .

Go ask the parents of the students at APS , Do a poll , do a survey , I don't know to actually interview some of the parents that are directly impacted by this , and not some like some political-cited group as your source .

Yeah , you know , that's really still the parental right what they're being taught in schools . Parents should have every bit of knowledge about and what they choose to do on certain issues as far as their sexuality or their gender issues . I'm sorry , but parents have to . They should be informed about this .

I'm not even sorry , they should just be informed about this ?

But now in this world we live in what we've seen from the journalists , the way they present it is parents who want to know if a school is transitioning their child . They're the extremists , and the normal caring people are the ones who want to hide medical decisions from parents and allow bureaucrats and educators to take over .

That is absolutely a flip on its head of reality . It's horrendous , it's scary . And again , don't care what party you're in if you think that you don't deserve to know as a parent , while the school should know , and you're the extremist for looking out for your family . That is absolutely ridiculous .

That's not something that parents are like oh no , that's not a big deal . That is a big deal it is , but you don't cut out families and you don't cut out parents of children . To try to help , aid that , maybe you work with parents and students who are feeling those pains . I don't know , maybe it's just called how do we build better , healthier communication ?

It's not by blocking out the parents .

. I think you should be 18 before you transition in a permanent way , and simply because I think kids are kids and they're so young and so many different things can happen .

And really the story follows a family with a boy that is transitioning to become a girl , his name is Flower and their mother , jenny Lin , and it says the following afternoon , flower and Jenny Lin Nichols would see a doctor at the University of Chicago and learn whether they could keep Flower , 11 years old keep Flower , 11 years old , on puberty blockers by the

way , flower started on puberty blockers at nine . They began the search for medical providers outside Indiana after April 5th when Republican governor Eric Holcomb signed a law banning transgender minors from accessing puberty blockers and other hormone therapies , even after the approval of parents and the advice of doctors .

So basically , which I think was a good move by Governor Holcomb says look , you gotta be 18 because there's so many things that happen . Okay , jenny Lin Nichols wanted their trip to Chicago to be defined by happy memories rather than a response to a law she called intrusive .

They would explore the Museum of Science and Industry and , on the way home , stop at a beloved candy store . Preserving the sense of normalcy and acceptance , she decided . Well , that's just what families do .

Was it incorrect food , amissed vitamin ? Ultimately , she and Chris dismissed those theories ungrounded in science . So they're wrapping themselves in science on deciding that their son can become their daughter . And listen to their quote daughter who recalled the euphoria of wearing princess dresses at an early age .

Flower cherished little red riding hood capes and felt certain of her identity from the start . She is 11 . I don't know a kid on the planet at the age of nine when they started these puberty blockers , that doesn't like to play dress up .

Is the whole process of all this that like even defining all , like if a kid wants to play at the doll or a kid wants to play house , or a kid wants to play with trucks or a kid wants to go and play baseball , whatever it is the fact that we get so nervous and the fact that we say , oh , these are gender affirming play items and then that means that

they've decided what sex they want to be , what gender they want to be and what they want to be . And that's the fact that age is just crazy . I mean , if you looked at me at nine through 13 , I couldn't be more of a tomboy . I mean , I wore my brother's tough skins . They were hand-me-downs . I played baseball .

I was the only girl on an all boys baseball team . I was very much a tomboy . Kids are figuring out who they are and parents need to just relax and say kids are kids . Let them still be processing it . They're a therapist , a family therapist , along with you .

I mean I'm sorry , but I don't understand the big push Most there is huge studies now where a lot of these kids that did transition at such an early age regret it so badly .

This is horrible and I want to leave it with this . I want you to listen to or , if you're on YouTube , I want you to watch this . This is from Mark versus the Mountain . At the time we shot this , ella was nine years old .

So you will never be what you were designed to be , just to be clear . But this is what a nine year old sounds like .

So I mean , my advice has always been girls , don't marry a guy until they're at least the age of 25 , or 30 , sorry and don't marry as a girl until you're 25 , because you need the time to figure out who you are , and I think women change their minds a lot up until about the age of 25 , and men I'm sorry , no offense I'm glad I married you after 30 ,

mark , because I just think guys need more time .

If you look at the numbers , more than half of of transitioners have come back and said wait a minute no that was a terrible mistake and we were talking about these ages . It's devastating . So , okay , that's that .

And I think what's interesting about Reeve is and what we talked to Reeve about is what kind of role do we have to play in the United States in curbing the flow of fentanyl from Mexico ? We know the border is wide open . That's been stated . We're gonna talk about that too in that episode .

And then we're gonna talk about what do we need to do to stop that flow of fentanyl , cause it is killing hundreds of thousands of Americans and we are in the middle of a war . We're in the middle of a war and we are not even fighting it right now . So we'll talk to him about that .