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You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right . Well , I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right . There's only an up or down . This is the no Doubt About it . Podcast .
No doubt about it , and now ?
your hosts , Christy and Mark Runcay . Wildfire , you can't catch us now Running , running , running dead .
Well , hello everybody .
Hey , hey .
I know you're trying to plug in last-minute weather stuff , aren't you , don't ?
you get ready to do . That's exactly what I'm doing .
I know we were doing a little small chat about the rain coming our way .
Yeah , it's called small chat . Some people call it small talk , but not us . We call it small chat .
Mike , you're a follow from Victory News joining us as well today .
Mike , do you want to take part in the small chat ?
No , I prefer yeah , no .
No small talk , no small chat for you , Okay .
Mike , let's get right to it . I just do big talk .
You just do big talk . Okay , good , big talk . We're going to do big talk with Mike today . With Mike , let's talk a little bit about the . Do you want to start with a little bit of weather ?
Yeah , actually , ava , I am just sending this , you can ? It's , it's in my text chain to myself on this and , yeah , I think it's a great call . We're going to talk just a real quick second and send it over .
There is a major league spring storm system coming in which we have talked on this show a lot about how we had a horrendous winter for snow across the mountain West as a whole , here , especially in Northern New Mexico . Southern New Mexico storm system is back well to our West and is slowly going to creep into the state here over the next couple of days .
As it does , it's going to do a good job of drawing easterly moisture in . This is critical . I mean , this is really , really important . In fact , I'm going to show you one other thing , ava go ahead and go into the text I sent to BJ important , in fact . I'm going to show you one other thing , ava go ahead and go into the text I sent to BJ .
He's our builder up in Angel Fire and I sent him some of the moisture outlook that we're expecting from this storm . Okay , here , it is right here . So this is over the next couple of just over the next 36 hours . By the way , this is not some long term , you know , week long deal .
So across the eastern plains this thing's going to be a very good storm and if you go up into the Northern Mountains we can see liquid equivalents of one to two inches of rain . So that you know you're going to see some higher peaks , above 10,000 feet . They could pick up eight , 10 , 12 inches of snow .
That's very waterlogged , so this could be very , very good . Here in Albuquerque , as you can see , we got the possibility of doing very well as well , so we could see over of an inch . Not out of the question here . So this is the kind of storm that is critical for us , because we don't have the slow melt off of snow we need to back fire danger down .
Every one of these storms we get is critical . Now , is it as good as a big snowpack ? It's not . It's not because you get a big storm like this and it helps you green everything up and then within two weeks we get some more wind and we've got more issues . So I still think we have a real risk here of a major fire danger problems here .
We already have them in place , but this will be helpful .
So if you're up places like Ponderay or Mora or areas up through the northern mountains , looks good out toward Clayton , raton , down into Fort Sumner , northern portions of Lincoln County over two inches of snow or , excuse me , rain out of this whole deal in especially the Sacramento Mountains , cloudcroft , ruto , so they desperately need the moisture too .
Now , not as much out west as you can see , this is easterly moisture . Slow-moving storm Moisture draws in from the east here . So I do think it's really , really exciting to see this thing and it's really developed here over the past four or five days .
It's looked better and better as we move forward , you guys , and one of the things we're very concerned with here we don't want to see another horrendous fire season and if we can get away with a few more storms like this long duration storms this one will take a few days and if you look out at the moisture possibilities even beyond the next couple of days ,
really this next week or so , it looks pretty good . In fact , here in the Albuquerque area , not only are we looking at a very good chance at moisture through Tuesday , wednesday timeframe , so really this thing's coming in and it's a couple of different pieces that are going to come in . This is really promising , super promising .
So I just I'm thrilled with this .
Really , that's good news . Mike , are you taking back a little bit to your history of working with Mark , as when you were news anchor at channel seven ? Mark rolls in with the weather .
Yes , he does . Yeah , I just have one question for him . Yeah , yeah , what's my drive going to be like to Denver ?
today we are going to start to see some showers develop . Everything you're going to see between here and Denver is going to be rain , okay . So you're not looking at necessarily a snow issue . That's much higher up this time of year Sure , not a total surprise , although we've had snowstorms in May , even in some lower elevations in New Mexico .
That's not going to be the problem . So you're going to be going through rain , okay , and hopefully you can handle that
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. If you can't , then you shouldn't be driving a car . Do you know what I'm saying ?
I know what you're saying . Okay , thank you .
Mark getting fired up again to talk about the weather . Maybe we start with weather from now on , cause my goodness gracious guy , you get off .
Well , no , I mean , and we're talking about what the show we're doing , the TV show we're doing , the weather's going to be a huge part of that , so we're not done with the weather thing .
Oh , I know You're never going to be done with the weather thing . People question me and they ask me all the time does Mark still talk about the weather All the time ?
You just may not see him as much talking about the weather .
But I don't know we may join a for you to talk about weather .
Yeah Well , if I had done this a little better and thought about a little more , I would have added some other graphics . Oh my gosh , we'll get you a little green Walmart .
We'll like paint the wall green behind you . You can stand up . We'll just let you have like a little sport coat and a little tie on real quick , and then you'll change into like your casual hoodie .
We're excited , so next couple of days Okay .
Here in Albuquerque , we're going to get rain through Wednesday too .
Yes , We'll be in and out of rain pretty regularly through Wednesday . Northern mountains above 10,000 feet you're going to be looking at rain and snow . And out to the east side of the state , boy places , you know , colfax Union , down into Curry Quay , over into Lincoln County , even into Chavez County , some pretty good moisture .
You go further west you don't get as much but you're still going to get sun showers .
Okay , all right , that's good . I'm sorry , lightning .
You know , yes , severe weather is going to be an issue across Eastern New Mexico here over the next 24 hours , so that is a problem . No doubt Hail will be a possibility as well in some of these areas . So , yes , east side of the state , though less so mountains westward .
Okay , all right , so give everybody a little bit of a overview of what we're going to talk about today . We kind of got a little mix of local and national news .
Yes , we do . So we're going to take a bunch of your emails because they're really interesting , so we're going to knock some of those out and then we're going to get into three stories locally that I think all tie together in a very weird way , and that is that we are not addressing the major issues that we have in this state .
We've stopped talking about the real cause of problems and we're going down rabbit holes and we're like , well , we have these huge problems , but why ? And we don't address anything that really does matter to people . And so I think it's this weird point that we're at that . It's almost like our leaders aren't ?
They're offering no solutions , they're not being honest about the problem , and so then we're just kind of making up fairy land where we go around and we're like , oh , we have this problem . I wonder why .
And we don't ever say why Right .
Right , so we have three different stories on that , three equally , you know , kind of infuriating stories on that . And then we're going to get into Trump's interview on Meet the Press , which was interesting , and we're going to tie in some of the broader issues , with Mike talking about that , and then we'll end with some , maybe some , craziness .
In the realm of some people are pretty fired up about this Trump picture as the Pope as we get ready for the conclave .
Yes , we'll talk about that as well . We'll talk about that , okay , all right . Well , let's get into some of the emails first that we got , obviously , our last episode , if you missed it . We talked about this new proposed heat illness prevention rule that the New Mexico environment department is pushing , and we got quite a few email responses .
So I just wanted to uh in comments .
Yeah , and by the way , that that rule just I mean basically it would do everything from once you go above 80 degrees , you have to have a heat plan for your employees .
Which I was trying to explain this to Mike and Mike . The gist of it is a little bit if it's over 80 , you have to allocate , like acclimating your employees to be able to handle heat right Above 80 . So you can work like 20% of the day , then 40% of the day and then if you go on vacation you have to come back and re-acclimate .
Yeah . So what they're saying is they want no new businesses to move into New Mexico .
That's exactly it , and the point we're making is this absolutely is another barrier to entry for a small business community that is already devastated in this state , having to do everything they have to .
Yeah , I was trying to explain to Mike like water you have to provide so much water per hour .
Eight ounces every 15 minutes .
Yeah , now , if you get up , into around 100 degrees .
Eight ounces every 15 minutes . You're going to be going to the bathroom or drinking the whole time . Yeah .
There'll be no work done . Oh , no , no , no into the bathroom or drinking the whole time .
There'll be no work done . It's a face reality here . And then shade structures . Don't forget about it . You have to have appropriate shade structures .
that follows the crew around everywhere you go , no matter what you are . If you're out ranching , and they're like , you're out on a ranch land you're like where's the shade structure ?
What if you have three drones connected to each other and they have a shade structure .
That's the kind of thing we need . Yeah , that's what we need .
That's going to be the latest business here . Okay , so John Beverly wrote in . We are creeping ever closer to California with a crazy rule like this . Government intervention to this extent is ridiculous . The ranchers here in Catron County are already fighting the quote endangered wolves . Now they have to carry tents around for shade .
What about the poor horses having to endure horrific 80-degree heat ? It's unreal . Then we jumped down to Patricia . She says never going to get any work done . Refer , uh refers usually start early and quit early . This is so bad for New Mexico , javier says .
As if the road projects don't take long enough , this rule is going to add two times more to the project more time , more money , less production , more incentive to automate .
That's a great question , or point from . Javier Cause you do think about some of the warmest conditions you have If you're laying asphalt down in Southeastern New Mexico , where , I guarantee you , the temperatures are going to be a hundred or above for much of the summer .
That is going to now these guys , it's not that you don't care about how hot people get , but you allow them the resources to handle it themselves .
Yeah , Let them be adults and let them make sure they're managing themselves . Okay , Um , here we have she . She wakes as Senator and business coach here . I don't know if I should laugh or scream . I need to know whose grand idea this was . Well , again , this is the new Mexico environment department .
It's a bureaucrat , right .
So you got .
It's a bureaucracy , and then they just empower the bureaucracy to say let's make some more rules . You know he says , well , what law was this ? It ain't a law .
It's how they are implementing what they're trying to do in an administrative sense , and that's what makes it so insidious , because a lot of times it's not a law , it's how they implement these things and it's you . You go to a bureaucrat who says , nope , nope , go back , do it again . And all of a sudden you wonder why people get so frustrated .
Okay . And then L Davis says well , this work environment thing is plain stupid . How do these people get into position to come up with this ? Thank you for bringing things like this to our attention . And then , finally , these people have never worked in the oil patch , especially on a drilling rig or pulling units .
And I wonder and that's Gerald Smith I wonder , gerald , if that's not really where this is aimed .
Right , is it oil and gas Is ?
That's not really where this is aimed , right . Is it oil and gas ? Is oil and gas sector trying to create issues there ?
Okay , well , and they also have to monitor their employees for the next five years . Let's not forget that either .
So they can show up . You have to keep all the paperwork for five years . It's like it's like the taxes . It's like taxes All of a sudden it's so ridiculous .
Okay , mark , this is a . This was on . We were talking about the Bill Belichick 24-year-old girlfriend stepping in on the interview last week , right ? So this one comes in . On a more serious note , bill Belichick is not the greatest NFL coach Mark of all time .
He had a great roster with Brady and Gronk and the NFL of today is not the NFL of Lombardi in Lander days . What happened when Brady and Gronk left ? Belichick was close behind them and , quite frankly , I have little respect for a 73-year-old man having a relationship with a 24-year-old . Finally , he adds thanks for your shows and your producer deserves a raise .
Yes .
I do .
I will take that at any time .
Who wrote this ? It's a gentleman named . I believe his name is Dan .
Dan . Yeah , dan , look a couple of things . First , on the producer . I don't appreciate you trying to sew discord on the team . Uh , our producer is provided lodging food , apparently , college tuition , yeah , her own car , yeah , and money to do this show . She is more than well compensated . So don't put any ideas .
Don't put any ideas in her head I might unionize that's exactly what I'm afraid of . Right there , the unionization call , and again now , once we go above 80 degrees , somebody's only going to work half an hour out of every hour so that's a problem for us .
Now we do have air conditioning , so I don't think we can use that rule ava , just so you know .
But yes we don't shoot outside yeah , good point and then . So a couple of things . First of all , this whole thing that the belichick isn't the greatest coach of all time . Look , I love Tom Landry . He was the , the , the legendary coach of my favorite team . He was a great coach , lombardi a great coach .
But to say that the Belichick was successful because of his players , well , guess what ? Every NFL coach who's ever been good has great players . That's how it works , you know . If you're talking about Landry , he had Roger Stalback . If you're talking about Landry , he had Roger Stahlbach . If you're talking about Lombardi , he had Bart Starr .
When you lose those guys , guess what happens ? You're not as good , and so that's the way it goes . Winning six Super Bowls in an era of the NFL , the way it is is incredibly impressive . So he is , in fact , the greatest of all time , and I don't say that with any sorts of pride .
I know I was going to say say , Dan , you have no idea how hard that is for Mark to even say , oh , I don't like Belichick he doesn't like him . He doesn't like the Patriots . He is a diehard Cowboys fan , for the record for everybody out there . So you can boo and hiss all you want at home but he's not a Patriotsold .
You're a guy who's not against dating a 24-year-old , am I right ? Oh my gosh .
I think that age difference is rather ridiculous . It's a little strong .
Okay , the gap is huge . It's 50 years , 50 years basically , yeah , yeah .
Yeah , and then watching the interview and her comment and basically control the show show . Yeah , I mean come on .
Yeah , no , it was wild to watch someone who you know and you know this , I mean Chrissy you . You graduated college , you ended up in TV for I don't know three , four years and then you got into PR for years before you even tried to to get into that world of of what is some high stakes PR , which you've done . You work for Richard Branson directly .
You've been in the middle of this stuff for her to jump in at 24 and start thinking she can start running interviews . It's I mean especially interrupting , Like if you had interrupted a seat , if you had interrupted Richard Branson in the middle of an interview .
How would that have gone ? The only time I ever interrupted Richard Branson in an interview and there was one time it was because he um , he was a guy that tended to use colorful language and in America we don't quite use that same word .
So I just said and they were just doing it , it was an interview with one of the entertainment shows in LA and so I just said , we just redo that real quick . And I just went over and whispered in his ear and just said you know , he just keep in mind like we don't drop the F-bomb here . That's basically what I had to say to him and he was so nice .
He was like oh my , you know my apologies and I'm so sorry . Let's try this again .
That was the literally the only time in my history of of talking with big CEOs , big brands , of saying you know you could have thoughts and if they really were going to interject something , you get the CEO's attention Right and hopefully you've trained the CEO enough to know what they answer with .
I'm sorry , bill Belichick , how many interviews has that guy been in in the course ?
of his life Right .
I mean he's , and for this 24-year-old to chirp in who has zero PR or marketing experience . I'm sure to start with Right . I just felt like she overstepped .
Literally . She graduated from college last year . I mean , I'm sorry . Yeah now I mean it and I think for her what the thing is , and it would be a bummer if she lights her reputation on fire going forward because of all this .
I don't know how you're getting a job in PR anytime soon .
I think what she's counting on is just staying with Belichick , right , I mean , just you know whatever that is . But but I think what's what she's not looking at is the long-term implications here that she's going to have a career .
So she needs to look out in a way for herself to not look like this kind of controlling yeah , Kind of this Machiavellian kid right out of college where everybody kind of looks at her and goes , okay , yeah , no . And I just worry that for her she's not seeing that right , she's not seeing all this .
She's seeing herself in the middle of the action and not realizing she's doing damage to herself and her own prospects going forward . I don't think she cares . I mean , I don't think she cares , I mean I don't think she knows . But I think it's ignorance , mike , I think she would care if she knew . Yeah , you know what I mean . Like , how do you imagine it ?
Like you're in the middle of this and you're dating Susan Sarandon , mike , and you're 24 , right , right , okay , and you're like , and all of a sudden Susan's like deferring to you and all this stuff , and you're thinking you hung the moon man .
You're like I , I'm incredible what I've done here , and then she's not realizing everybody's going to suddenly look at you when the when the merry-go-round stops . They're going to look at you and be like , uh no , we want nothing to do with you . Sure , and that's the thing I worry about for for her , and I don't .
I mean I know I've been harsh on her , but I don't think you're being harsh on her . I mean I'm sorry that my first TV job was out of college .
I got drilled by my news director If I even acted remotely like I had a clue what I was doing . Basically , I was slapped down to be like you're here to learn first and let's get an education under your belt on how this all goes before you start shooting off your mouth .
And so even when I left television after being in it for about five and a half years and I went into media consulting , I still treaded lightly there until I really got to know the CEO really well , learned their brand . I didn't put myself in the middle of like them in it and a reporter thinking I was all that you can't .
I just don't think that that does . It doesn't make you look good . It certainly doesn't make your CEO and his , his or her brand look good . Make you look good . It is certainly doesn't make your CEO and his , his or her brand look good , and that , to me , is what your vibe like .
Ultimately , if you want to be in a position of being a media consultant or being in PR , your job is to promote that brand and that individual and make that person look good . You should be in the back and nobody sees you .
Well , but then . But how do you then ? How do you balance that with the fact that she's dating him ?
Well , she should not be his public . I mean , she should have nothing to do with him on a professional level . Like , if you want to be like hey , do you mind if I post some stuff on Instagram about us as your girlfriend , then have at it , right . But like I don't know how in the world she's quote working for the guy .
But that doesn't make any sense , somebody that has at least I mean , at least five years of experience .
I mean this guy , is you like it or not , he is a massive figure in the football world . And if you're in the University of North Carolina , I mean you're looking at this going . What did we sign up for ?
We did not sign up for rookie .
Coming in here and just you know girl right out of college deciding to light our program on fire . I mean , think about it , that's all anybody's talking about . College deciding to light our program on fire , I mean , think about it , that's all anybody's talking about . Nobody's talking about football with UNC , is she ?
going to be sitting there at the press conferences after every game and answering on his behalf .
I don't know , will she be there ?
Yeah , anyway no , I , I , you know . I think she just needs to take a few lessons , like go work for a company . If this is what she wants to do , she should go work for a company for a while , get some experience in her belt , stay Bill's girlfriend for whatever . That's up to you I guess .
I'm not going to make any judgments there , although I think it's ridiculous . But anyway , that's her business , not mine . And then come back if she wants to work in a marketing position with him . You know if he's still working by then .
Yeah Right , I mean it is weird because someone who has built up a reputation as just beyond , I mean somebody who is gruff but incredibly competent .
He does not need anybody to tell him what to say in an interview , by the way .
No , agreed , and he absolutely does not suffer fools , and so then he looks like the fool , which is weird .
It's just weird to watch with him , because he just sat back and allowed her to do it . Yeah , I mean , I wasn't expecting that , yeah .
No , I agree I agree , especially I wasn't expecting that .
Yeah , no , I agree .
I agree , especially as gruff as he is , exactly .
You've seen him ? Did you see Dynasty , that reality show on ? I think it was on Apple TV . It was a documentary about the Patriots and their big wins , all their wins . And when he got asked questions about Brady or whatever that he didn't want to ask , he just said we're not going to talk about that .
Like he had no problem saying over and over and over I'm not going to talk about that . I'm not talking about , like he knows how to handle the quote unquote , tough questions .
So , anyway .
okay , let's move on to some local news .
Yeah . So let's get to these first three stories , and I don't know if you guys saw this . It was in the Albuquerque journals , a featured story in the Albuquerque journal , and it was written by Kylie Garcia , and here's the headline . It says why doesn't downtown Albuquerque build up ? So the crux of the story is why don't we have more skyscrapers ?
Okay , and so here's the thing about this story and what was very difficult to read about it . It was it focused on yeah , why don't we have ? Why hasn't our downtown just turned into what other downtowns have turned into ? Okay , why are we not Austin ? Why are we not Austin ? Why are we not Tucson ? Why are we not places where everybody ?
goes to congregate , okay .
We all know the answer . We all know the answer . Okay , but hold on , I'm not . I'm not interested . I'm not interested in your actual answer . It's literally like answers for a hundred . Alex , it's that easy of an answer .
Okay , you're exactly right . So , let's , let's go with this , and I want you to just I'm going to give you a couple of the reasons that were mentioned , and there are some smart people in this article , by the way , jim Long is is probably one of the probably the preeminent operator of hotels in New Mexico .
He is a very good business person and he talks about some of the technical reasons you can't get investment money in and , and various things like that . He talks about some of the normal things and then at the end he actually gives a real reason . But we'll get to that in a second , and then we also have another group here .
So do you mind reading this right off the top ? This is the . This is the author of the story , and then she goes to Michaela Renz Whitmore , manager of the city's urban design and development division , for a little bit of an explanation , and you guys might not realize why there's no development downtown , but she gives a reason you may not have thought of .
Well , she said that she thinks it's culture that's playing a role in the development of the downtown structure quote as part of a Southwest culture where people really appreciate our vistas and our views . I think culturally we kind of like our low spread out development and I think that absolutely set the flavor for what got developed .
Yeah , really really smart observation . I mean , you've seen this in Phoenix , you know what I mean . They just don't have skyscrapers . We like the low Adobe , where you just look over and take a look at this thing . You go into Phoenix you don't see any skyscrapers . You go to Dallas you don't see any skyscrapers . Austin you don't see any skyscrapers .
What are you talking about ?
I don't know . I feel like that was just she was reaching for something to add that somebody . I don't know why she was reaching for that , but that's where she reached , so she reached for that Right .
And then and then they you know Jim Long , gives some explanations on capital and things
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like that . So so I'm reading this going are they never going to actually talk about why we don't have development downtown ? But we keep going . And then David Silverman , who is a part of Geltmore LLC . He and his family run Geltmore . They're great investors , they're really smart people .
Okay , and then David , you know , he says , hey , look , we're going to invest downtown to some degree and read a little bit of what he has to say and he's , he's very optimistic .
He said why wouldn't we invest in some density in our core ? If people say the health of your city is judged by your downtown , then why wouldn't we try to make our downtown better ? He also adds all of these other case studies like Tucson . All these other little places have done it . We can do it , we just need some vision .
Okay , okay , that's just . I appreciate him being positive and I like him as a person , but but again , not addressing the issue , right , Okay ? So then at the end , jim Long has a statement , and I know these interviews work . I don't know how the interview with Long went , but I know I sat down with him before . He's a smart guy , so he gets it .
But I want you to read what Jim Long says at the end , after he gives some real technical reasons . Listen to what he says here at the end of the article .
This is a Long agreed . Adding downtown should grow vertically when the market demand warrants it . If you were to build today , it would be an economic disaster . Okay , why ?
Why would that be Jim ? And the reason why and Jim knows this better than anybody is because crime , homelessness and violence is out of control downtown . Nobody wants to invest down there and until you make downtown a safe place to be , where people want to go , you are never going to get investment dollars .
But instead of actually addressing the issue , we are forced to read an article . A man be Pamby . We want higher buildings . Why isn't it happening ? It's not happening because it's out of control . Down there you have homeless people everywhere . You have crime everywhere .
If you take your family from out of town and they come into Albuquerque , you don't go downtown because you love your family . Okay , it's that simple . And the fact that they don't address it at all , don't even mention crime , homelessness or anything else , it gives people the impression just don't know .
Just don't know . I wonder has this reporter actually driven downtown ? Did she see the buildings that are boarded up ? Did she see the broken glass in downtown ? Does she see the buildings that are boarded up ? Does she see the broken glass ? Does she see the cars that are broken into ?
How about you interview Doug Peterson , who's incredibly vocal and one of the largest commercial real estate brokers in the area ? I don't know if statewide , but I know in Albuquerque he's pretty prevalent and he's very vocal on this because he has all these buildings .
He's the one that's having to pay for private security to try to protect his buildings because the police department can't do it anymore . So it's like come on , like put some reality check into this article .
I don't know if she's new to town , but I'm like drive down , look up Twitter type in downtown on Twitter and Doug Peterson will I swear will be the first hit that you get because he's very vocal about it . So she missed the mark .
Yeah , and let me throw this in there too . This is an article from KOB from this January . A new year brings new laws for Albuquerque and new fees for some property owners with the downtown vacant premises ordinance . You know what that is ?
No , I'll tell you what that is .
City councilors passed that ordinance Monday night in January . It forces building owners to pay to register their properties every year if it has been unoccupied for more than nine months . This includes buildings from 1st Street to 8th Street , between Gold and Copper . Councilor Joaquin Baca proposed the bill .
He said vacant properties downtown attract crime and negative activity and that fixing them up would make the area safer and bring more opportunities . We have properties that have been vacant or empty for more than 40 years , is what he said .
What an idiotic take . What an idiotic take . That is like putting the cart before the horse . It's like the building's empty . So we have crime . No , we have crime because we have crime out of control . And then the buildings are empty because of the crime ?
Yeah , because businesses leave , they depart , they're gone . I mean they're sick of being broken into and have no security down there . Plus , as a customer , I'm sorry , but as a customer of anybody downtown , I don't want to go down there . I mean , our daughter used to perform at the chemo theater . That thing's been ravaged .
They had to come back and really try to protect it . No-transcript . The first person that made a comment about our culture .
Mike , that's a great argument too . I mean , that's unbelievable . That's exactly right . These guys literally are like we have empty buildings , so we have crime . No , because you have crime , you have empty buildings . Right , I mean unreal .
Yeah , I don't see huge investment going on downtown yeah . But , until you get the crime under control . I don't know how this changes .
I'm sorry , but it's stop writing inane articles that don't actually address the issue . Let me chime in with this real quickly .
Baca says . An example is what's known as the Gizmo building on 4th and Central . According to Baca , the Church of Scientology owns the building , which has been vacant for listen to this 46 years and up for sale for about twenty .
And nobody's buying it . Nobody's buying it .
It's been for sale for 25 years . Yeah , no , it's been vacant for 46 and for sale for 25 . Yes , Unbelievable .
Somebody call Tom Cruise . We need to figure out what's going on with the Scientology .
Well , you probably could . You were in a movie once , so you could probably call Tom Cruise I always did a movie with Kevin Costner .
We're friends . Not Tom Cruise , all cruise , all right , although kevin costner wouldn't know me from all in the world , but you were his security guard in the movie I was , I was a little swing vote if you guys haven't seen mark .
He's in it for like this . Did you know that , mike ?
you know what ? I was actually I gotta , I was supposed to be in it , but my general manager would not let me . I was supposed to be a reporter in swing vote yes and I was cast .
I begged for forgiveness .
I didn't ask for permission and so got in but then Mark comes home from like one day of doing it and he's like I would never do this again . He's like I you couldn't pay me to go be an extra in a movie ever again .
Who were you working with then ? Which station in town ? I was a 13 . Okay .
Yeah , so I was a seven . Yeah , oh , yeah . Well , mary Lynn Roper's not going to allow anything fun to happen yeah , she's like nope nope , not doing , it not happening , and you would have loved it mark's like he looked .
He was the security detail for kevin cost me , I think was supposed to be president right at the time . Yeah , yeah , and so you're like his security detail and it's totally mark like with his glasses .
He basically just showed up as his weatherman outfit yeah , and then they stole my suit that I wore by the way for the filming the .
The production ended up keeping my suit which was was a custom suit , that you bought it . Yeah , yeah .
Yeah , costner's probably still got it in his closet . Oh , I'm sure , costner , he does .
It's probably one of the suits he wore on Yellowstone . Let's be honest yeah , he probably did .
I don't know if it fit him , but okay .
Story number two .
So story number one Again , we have issues here . You know thing . Okay , city council meeting last week . Louis sanchez is running for mayor of albuquerque . He's a democrat but he's running against keller . He's very much in opposition to keller and the work he's done .
Louis sanchez is also a former police officer , so he comes at this from from a perspective of understanding law enforcement and protocols and things like that .
Well , chief medina , mayor keller's chief of police , comes in to present to the city council and they're talking about what's going on with the National Guard coming into the Albuquerque metro area , which again we've talked about on this show . It's very much a performative thing and some sort of power struggle deal going on . We've speculated on that , but who knows ?
But Louie starts to go right after the chief of police . Thank you , madam Chair .
Nice of you to show up in a polo shirt today , chief . That's the uniform that your deputy over there is is the uniform that I'm used to , with wearing a badge of office , looking nice , tip-top shape . Thanks for disrespecting us today . Appreciate that . First thing is I'm glad that you're okay with losing $5.4 million in cut .
It seems to me that the administration threw you under the bus pretty good , and also probably all of us . So my first question is why did you not consult with this body City Council when you decided to have the national guard come to albuquerque , and why did you disrespect us in reference to that ?
madam chair , who is not in her seat ? Councillor sanchez , respect goes two ways . You expect me to respect . You respect this body , and look at the way you just addressed me , and I hope the whole city of albuquerque just saw that unprofessionalism .
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They did .
You just look at yourself . Let me finish in the mirror Before you come into this . You can come in and you can come in with a professional attitude and a professional look , and that's what you need to do .
There's only one person who starts off unprofessional here , but I'm not going to sit here and let you abuse me , madam Chair .
Okay , okay , all right .
We need a cat noises . I mean my goodness .
Yeah , so a couple of things . I think obviously you know my point again , same through point . Here we have the National Guard flowing into the city because crime is out of control . The mayor didn't . The mayor didn't advocate for this , the governor did .
Right .
So this is a power play , yeah .
Which which are . Our theory is that it was not something that the mayor was looking forward to , right , but the governor , which again , hey look , whatever . Has it worked ? No , probably not . I don't think whatever . But the point being here , these guys are squabbling about wearing a polo .
Yeah .
Ridiculous , not even answering the question .
I mean it begs the question because , mike , to bring you up to speed really quickly , I mean basically you had the mayor come out and say crime's down , basically reelect me , because we're in election year right now for the mayor .
That's going to be in this November , and then two days later the governor announces that she is sitting in the National Guard in the city of Albuquerque and then you have this police chief scrambling . He does another press conference and basically puts out oh well , we had asked her for help . So none of it lined up right .
So I think what's interesting is he goes in front of city council . He's getting accused of not coming to city council to ask for their support with bringing in national guard .
It's because it didn't he didn't even ask for it . He can't say that yeah .
All these lies have spun out of control , where he is going to get into a fight about what he's wearing because he can't . There's no way he can be like . Well , by the way , I didn't actually ask them to come . Therefore , I didn't go to you guys to ask permission .
It was news to me when they showed up Like can you say that ?
It's a freaking clown show . I'm sorry , but this is a clown show .
Yeah , no , at this point I agree .
And meanwhile we have I think we're ranked what 20th in the nation right now . For I think is what we are currently , and this is what we're arguing about Polos , and I mean this whole scheme about National Guard . It's all a bunch of ridiculous clown show behavior .
And what do they have in National Guard doing ? Are they still here , yeah ?
they're doing like they're not on the front lines of fighting crime . So that's part of the problem too . They , they're they're not trained for that Right . They're in a support role .
Yes , they're like supposed to be like helping with traffic during construction things . Yeah . So then supposedly the officers themselves ? Can get off can go out and actually fight crime . That's the . That's what's been put out to the public . What's actually happening ? We have no idea , yeah .
Yeah , it just it . It point being in all of this , we think the governor really is backing a different candidate for mayor . Probably Not publicly . I say Christy thinks she will publicly .
We have a bet , mike . I say the governor is going to just think , hmm , I wonder who she's going to support . Our our little casual bet is , I think , that she's publicly going to endorse this guy , right , and Mark said he , she will not do that , she will not get in the middle of that publicly , so he owes me a new chair If I win this bet .
It's behind you , covered in duct tape . Yeah , all right . So anyway , that's the gist .
Third story Very good takes . Third story is out of Las Cruces and actually dates back to last year , where Las Cruces is thinking about providing safe spaces for people to shoot up drugs . Okay , they're continuing down this road . And so I went and unearthed a clip because I was always wondering how do they make the case for this ?
How do you make the case for this ? How do you make the case for allowing people to do this compassionately ? How do you do this , knowing that when you are an addicted drug user , it ends one way it's a progressive disease and it ends with you dead . That's how it works , right ? Okay ?
So by you providing an avenue for people to basically commit suicide in slow motion . How do you make that case ? Okay ?
So are we going to address the issue of dependency on substances and are we going to help fix it , or are we going to allow people not let's just , let's just not address it put the fingers in the ear , hands over the eyes and say , no , we don't want to address it , let's let them use them . So that's the third example of not addressing these issues .
You're not going to believe what you hear from a Kaylin C . She's the person who is advocating for this and she is with the Overdose Prevention Center .
These are some pictures of what the sites in New York look like , so you can see that they're bright , they're big , they're dignified spaces where people who use drugs will want to hang out , so optics are very important when we do this work . No question , we don't want the sites to look like people would expect them to look .
If it looks like a shooting gallery , that's the kind of reception that we're going to get from law enforcement , emergency services , uh , and other stakeholders in the neighborhood . If it looks like a well-run , clean , organized and dignified space , then we're suddenly more welcome .
Hold on , Stop it right there for one second . Ava . A dignified space to commit slow speed suicide . She's advocating for a dignified space to destroy yourself .
And if she driven down into our war zone and seeing what these people look like when they take off all their clothes ? They're the bathroom public , like wherever they want . They're shooting up at the same time , like it's . It is the saddest state you could ever imagine somebody being in .
No , that's not important . What's important is a nice , dignified space to be naked shooting up in .
All right , let's keep going and a member of the larger community . I want want to point out here too , before we move on volunteers and jobs , you'll see that 40 plus there . What that means is that we really believe that one of the best things we can do for the neighborhood is create work for people in the neighborhood . So local jobs for local people .
We are an income generator , we are providing jobs for people that need them , and we're also hiring full-time salaried positions with medical benefits , people who use drugs directly from the OPCs and other programs , so really interrupting the cycle of addiction with other opportunities that are all coming out of the program itself .
So this idea of closed loop service provision .
Okay , okay , okay , okay . So not only does she ludicrously assert that they're going to make money off these people , okay , she then says we're going to take people who are addicted to drugs and give them full-time jobs and insurance when they need treatment . And you just look at this and go how do you have this perspective ?
I can't even wrap my mind around what she says . She's basically and they make themselves sound so compassionate but she doesn't care about the user . She's fine . What happens to the user if they continue to use Bye-bye ?
They die , okay , they die In this case , they die with dignity . They die with dignity in a nice place with a window .
It looks good , it's awful . It is a weird mix of total ignorance and complete and total disregard for human life . It's unreal yeah .
It just doesn't make any sense to me , None yeah , and to spend any money on it otherwise make it just doesn't make any sense to me None , yeah , and , and , and .
Just spend any money on it . Otherwise too , it's just poor use of funding .
Oh forget funny .
Look , they need . They need treatment . Yeah , and that's expensive . We're going to spend a lot of money . I think you should . I think you should . It's the compassionate thing to do . It's not compassionate to say let's watch and see how you commit slow motion suicide over the next two years , but , but , but , at least it's in a nice place .
Maybe a leather chair . I mean , they could get a leather chair out of this . You could sit in a little chair , it could be big windows , there could be all sorts of fun things . It just is it's so . So again , we have a major fentanyl crisis . Their solution is to let more people shoot up fentanyl in a very nice environment .
That is the most cruel approach possible it is , I think , your life is worth nothing , so keep killing yourself .
Yeah , terrible . Okay , let's move on to some national news , cause we had we had Trump on meet the press this morning , and even NBC had to admit that the numbers of the border are looking much better . So let's take a quick look at this first clip and then we can talk about it .
Things have plunged under Trump . According to Customs and Border Protection , there were over 22,000 encounters at the southern border in February and March this year , compared to over 378,000 in the same period last year , and according to the Department of Homeland Security , the administration has deported 150,000 people in its first 100 days .
Days . Wow , all right , holy cow , right , I mean those numbers . They're down 20 fold . 20 fold apprehensions at the border Unbelievable . So then , of course , kristen Welker comes out and is like we've got to put a stop to this , don't we ? I mean , we got to put a stop to this .
I mean you've solved the problem , so can we go back to the way it was is basically what she's trying to do .
It doesn't make any sense .
Yeah .
The big emergency right now is that we have thousands of people that we want to take out and we have some judges that want everybody to go to court . Some of them you appointed sir , including three on the Supreme Court . They change . I mean , it's unbelievable . It's unbelievable , how that happens but they do change .
Just to button this up , though are you planning to lift that emergency order anytime soon , now that the border's secure ? We ?
have an emergency . We have a massive emergency overall . It's an overall emergency on immigration and if the courts don't allow us to take people out , if we had to have a court case , every single think of it , every single person we have millions of people , we're going to have millions of court cases . Figure two weeks of court case .
It would be 300 years yeah , I mean , think about the numbers , you guys . We have what we that we know of us about 10 million that crossed over under biden at least , at least , yeah we've deported 150 000 .
So to say that this , oh , the emergency is now it's all , it's all over it's over , yeah it's done is not understanding how to do basic math I , I agree .
I mean think about it for a second . And the nice thing about what Trump did is he sealed the border without having to pass any laws from Congress . Like Joe Biden said , I can't do it myself . Well , guess what ? The president that wanted to seal the border could seal the border , and he did .
Now the question is what's it going to take to get these 10 to 15 to 20 million people that came across the border during Joe Biden out Right and the judges ?
are causing a problem . Well , and so , really , that is the whole approach , right ? The whole approach is they're in here now . How can we stop them from leaving ? And it doesn't matter if they're a criminal , if they're this Abrego , I mean Abrego Garcia , that that situation is crazy .
I mean he , his wife is on record talking about how he beat her regularly and all of a sudden , they're still going to defend him . Why would they do it ? Because they want to stop the system . So , on CNN , scott Jennings talked about the fact that this is ludicrous .
What the approach is , which is try to create so many different loopholes and different approaches to stop the exportation of people back out of the state .
The political analysis of this , though , is and a lot of average people are looking at it this way why is it that we can let 20 million people into the country , just walk across whatever and there's no real process for them to do that across whatever , and there's no real process for them to do that , but then we have to individually pick out every single
person and go through years upon years upon years of paperwork and this and that and the other , and all we're trying to do is send them back to where they came from , because they came here illegally in the first place . Twenty million in with no process how do you get 20 million out , with years and years of people fighting every single case ?
You can cherry pick any case you want .
But the reality is , the crisis that put Donald Trump in the White House was caused over years and years and years of neglect and letting people walk into here without any process at all , and now you're trying to gum up the works to keep them here .
A lot of them came in with parole . A lot of them came in polling shows .
Fifty four percent of Americans want Mr November polling show Donald .
Trump won . All right , right there , hold on .
This guy had the goal to say fifty four percent of Americans want an MS-13 gang member back . That's ludicrous . It is ludicrous , and Jennings is right . You know what they want to do is allow everybody in and then be like , well , you can't go back out now . You can't go back out now . And where does it say ? And , by the way , a lot of this too .
Really , what we're talking about here is two different things . If you come into this country illegally and do not claim asylum , you don't have to have a hearing , you don't have any rights , you're done , you're gone , you're right back out . So that's part of it , okay . But if you claim asylum , then all of this when you cross . By the way , when you cross ,
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when you cross right , yeah , right , well , no , six years later , when you're arrested , reality is what this gets down to is the asylum claim system has to be reformed . You have to provide judges with summary judgment , meaning they can briefly look at the case and then provide judgment right away without going through a lot of different process .
That's just part of what needs to happen here . But but this whole thought process that even those who have committed violent crimes and beat up their wives , let's get them back in here Again . I think this is a terrible place for Democrats to be . I don't think it works Okay , and I think eventually you're going to see them back away from it .
But just listening to that guy at the end , 54% of Americans want to pray . Go , go see you back . No , they don't .
No , they don't Ludicrous . Yeah so , and how was it framed ? How was the question framed in your survey , right ? No , no , no , it's a survey at that point . So okay , so moving back on . So let's talk a little bit about this next clip that you , that you brought in .
Yeah , so Elise Stefanik was on Fox news this morning , Okay , and she talked a little bit about what's going to happen with the economy and then we'll tie this back into Trump's interview with Kristen Welker .
But overall this we've talked about this the biggest danger to Trump and Mike , I'd love your take on this Biggest danger to Trump to me is if he doesn't properly address the economy quickly and pass a tax bill , pass a big economy bill right , Because it includes a lot more than just taxes .
But if he doesn't pass this thing quickly , he's in trouble on that issue . He can't continue to let things kind of linger and allow tariffs to kind of mentally drag things down . What I mean by that is not necessarily solid tariff policy , but just the overall feeling around tariffs pulling earnings down and things like that .
So overall , do you see the economy the same way that we just had ? We have a situation where this is the biggest threat to Trump it's the reason he got elected , I think and then the biggest threat if he's not going to be successful .
Right and he and he's true , you're right , he's trying to move this through as quickly as possible . We're talking about getting this through by midsummer at the very latest . I think that big beautiful bill if you will . July 4th , I think , is what their goal is . Right , they don't continue the Trump tax cuts .
I mean this would be a massive tax increase for Americans . I mean nobody would want to look at this and how it's going to affect their bottom line .
And Mike talk a little bit about that just briefly . But again , there's such misconception on those tax cuts only impacting the super , super rich in the country which is not true .
No , it's not true at all . It's going to affect Americans across the board .
82% of Americans got a tax cut of over $1,000 . 82% it was the most progressive tax cut in the history of the country . It really did . It went bottom up , it absolutely did , and so I want to have Elise Stefanik give her take on what she wants to do . Remember she was going to be head of the UN .
She ended up going back to the House because their majorities are so slim in the House . She has to stay in to shepherd this bill through .
She's very sharp and here's what she says about the big , beautiful bill House Republicans' responsibility to deliver the hallmark of President Trump's agenda , where he won a historic popular vote . We know the stakes are incredibly high and we are committed to getting this done . And this one big beautiful bill ?
It includes so many important provisions unleashing American energy independence , continuation of the historic Trump tax cuts and also adding no tax on tips , no tax on social security , as well as lifting the state and local tax , the salt deduction for high tax states like New York , where people are struggling to make ends meet .
These are commitments President Trump and Republicans made and we are committed to getting it done .
Okay , interesting stuff , okay . So she lays that part out there and how critical it is to do all this . I think the no tax on tips , no tax on social security , critical stuff You've got to put that in because you made promises on that and those are your voters . That's the Trump voter now .
It is that middle income lower income wage earner who just wants a fair shake and I think they'll pass that through . But remember just one other quick thing , mike , before you jump in on this the point that's critical in all this is they don't need 60 votes in the Senate . It's a budget bill . They can do it with 50 .
It's reconciliation right , that's right .
Yeah , that's all I need . So they do not need Democratic support , they need to get this done . The problem isn't the Senate , the problem is the House .
Right , but reality is , who would not want these tax cuts ? No tax on tips , no tax on Social Security , and I don't know where this stands . But Trump also talked about interest on auto loans . That are American auto loans being deductible . Deductible .
Think about that for a second . Well , I mean even Harris at the very end . Remember she came in and said no tax on tips .
She joined in too , so how many ?
Democrats are in the House saying we shouldn't do this .
Oh , you're not going to get a single Democratic vote . It's not happening . But the question is remember though , no , no , no , that's not the issue . If you've got three or four Republicans that can't get . Yeah , no , no , no . This is about guys like Thomas Massey and some of these other Republicans who never vote for anything .
You have one opportunity to pass this bill and then you're done Like , if you don't get this passed and you don't get a good bill passed , you're going to raise taxes on everybody , we will go into recession and you will absolutely have more issues with the tariff stuff , and this is going to be a disaster . Everybody knows it .
And so there's about four or five people in the House that are Republicans that matter . Democrats don't matter in this . They don't factor in . They don't factor in .
None of them are going to support it .
Very few .
Very few , okay , so why would five Republicans not be supporting this ?
So have you dealt with the whole Massey thing before ? On Victory News ? Yes , okay , you want to explain him a little bit . You're right , a lot of people don't know , christy , what this guy ? He's just one example . There's a few of them in the house .
Well , first of all , he is all against big government and he looks at this as like big government . He thinks much more drastic thing needs to happen , so he pushes back again . That's my opinion , anyhow . He pushes back against anything he considers to be big government and part of me understands what he's saying .
But at the same time you need to get along to move forward and he's not willing to do that and he's ticking a lot of people off .
I mean even like small steps . I mean , you know , you think about , can you , can you help ? Like even I mean I know this is a sidebar conversation , but that reminds me of even like the abortion laws . Right , where , if you can save some babies , is that , is that I would think that's worth effort .
Right Versus like well , no , no , no , we have to fight for all saving every baby , which obviously I agree with , but sometimes that's not feasible . To get across the finish line right away . Right , he's an absolutist . Right , you know , you're right , he's an absolutist .
Right , yeah , yeah .
And so , and there's about four or five . So if they lose these people , they're going to lose it , and so you know the white house is leaning on these guys heavy , and so this is all going to be Republican . It really is . I mean , you may get a few Democratic votes , but probably not .
But you could get a couple in these Trump districts , right , if you have a big Trump district where you have a Democrat sitting there , they better look at this very carefully , because if they're going to go out and say no , they're going to say no to no tax on tips , no tax on Social Security and a and a tax increase for everybody in your district .
So we'll see what happens .
Okay , and the big thing that continues to drive me crazy is all the narrative behind this big beautiful bill is going to have major Medicare tax cuts .
I mean cuts to Medicare ? Yeah , medicare , Medicaid , they just want to keep saying .
That's the narrative . They keep pushing out the door , regardless of how many times Trump and Social Security .
What the hell , we'll throw that in . Oh yeah , they say that to every entitlement , which no one's ever done .
But they've never done that . Trump has said over and over and , over and over I'm not cutting Medicaid , medicare , I'm not cutting your Social Security benefits . In fact , I'm trying to increase them , if I can , or at least make them last longer .
Here During this meet the press , she comes at Trump again and wants to put him in the hot seat on this once again . So let's take a listen to this .
Happ on this once again . So let's take a listen to this . What happens if it comes to your desk ? Has the tax cuts , but also cuts to Medicaid . Would you veto that ? Well , we're not doing that Would you veto that ?
I would if they were cutting it , but they're not cutting it . They're looking at fraud , waste and abuse and nobody minds that If illegal immigrants are in the mix , if people that aren't supposed to be there , people that are non-citizens , are in the mix , Nobody minds that Waste , fraud and abuse .
But we're not cutting Medicaid , we're not cutting Medicare and we're not cutting Social Security .
Let me just throw this out there , okay . Who's been saying , who's been threatening and trying to scare the American people with words like this ? The Democrats she is a reporter , she's supposed to be a reporter and trying to scare the American people with words like this ? The Democrats .
She is a reporter , she's supposed to be a reporter . She looks like she's heavily leaning one way . Yeah , oh , even like when she interviewed Rubio last week . We showed those clips and she was . She kept talking about well , so you're deporting now two-year-olds , american citizen , two-year-olds and Rubio was like again , we are not and we'll never deport two-year-old .
He put her in her place .
So you definitely know where she leans right , like it's not a , it's not a secret anymore where these mainstream media people often lie Right . But again it's like how many times does he need to say I'm not cutting Medicaid , medicare or social security benefits ? They're going to keep saying it .
I love the way she phrased it . It was so horrendously phrased that it's like going in , like listen , if you go to buy the car and it looks like exactly the car you want , except for there's a bomb in it that's going to blow up in five minutes , will you still buy the car ? Trump's like no , the car will blow up . It's a bomb .
I don't want to kill my family . What are you talking ?
about . She's like well , it could happen . About it's like well , it could happen . It could happen if this bill gets through and and it's got all your tax cuts , but it's also going to end your presidency . What are you going to do ? Yeah , it's like what is this ?
yeah , it's crazy . I'm a little surprised he didn't come out and just say that's another dumb question , right , right right , yeah , no , no doubt it's so funny .
Um , okay , a couple other quick things . The future of maga , she asked him are you , is there any future of MAGA without you ? I kind of thought Trump would be like well , but he didn't . He thinks there absolutely is .
Who looked to the future . Mr President , Do you think the MAGA movement can survive without you as its leader ?
Yes , I do . I think it's so strong and I think we have tremendous people . I think we have a tremendous group of people . We talked about a number of them . You look at Marco . You look at JD Vance , who's fantastic . You look at I could name 10 , 15 , 20 people right now just sitting here .
No , I think we have a tremendous party and you know what I can't name ? I
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can't name one Democrat . I mean , I look at the Democrats they're in total disarray . What do you think ?
I don't know why she wasted her time on that question . He's a little more than 100 days into his second term . I mean this is ridiculous . Why are you even going there ? Nobody's thinking about that stuff , but she is .
Well , no , I think she asked the question to try to trap him , because she's like let's show his narcissistic side and let me just go ahead and paint him as a narcissist again and have him up there saying well , this is why I might run again for a third term .
I think he gave a big , beautiful answer .
He did give a big , beautiful answer on that .
And he did , he did you know he mentioned . Rubio , which is Rubio , is ascending , there's no doubt . How long will he be ascending , who knows ? But he's done a done a very good job of being a reasonable voice for the administration and I would say I think he's a more significant voice than Vance , at least recently he has been . Now that'll change .
Jd will step up and do what he has to do , but it's going to be a very interesting race and Mike I think part of the reason she's asking this too , and Christy , I think you're probably right probably did want to get him to walk into a bear trap . I think it's absolutely that's a good way . Yeah , no , I think it's a really good point .
But also , you know you're talking about within 18 months they're going to be declaring . I mean , this is going to be . This is the problem with second term presidencies is that the reality is you have two years at most . So guess what ? Trump's second term is really going to be defined by that one economic bill , really , and all the executive orders .
But it's going to be that the economic bill , how he deals with tariffs and the EOs .
And reality also is he really has surrounded himself with an all-star cast .
I mean he really I might push back on that a little bit . I'm a little . I think he does have some great people , don't get me wrong . At least five super solid people , I agree . But there are some times where you wonder who's pulling down the reins a little bit , just to say calm things down .
And I don't mean you don't push for what you want , but I do mean that you have to do it in an orderly way so that you don't create your own problems . The one thing about his first term was because he had so many people around him . I think that either he didn't know very well or didn't realize that they maybe had divided loyalty .
Ok , that moderated his tendencies and what the end result was was kind of a standard Republican presidency which actually worked , which the economy did well . You know there's a lot of things he did very well .
So and I know as he looks back on it , I'm sure he looked back and said I made this mistake , he made this mistake , I made this mistake , I got this guy sabotaged me , this person . You know we've all been part of organizations where some people working within the organization did not do what was in the best interest .
But you do need occasionally people adding , pulling back the reins , saying wait a minute . I'm not saying those people don't exist , but they aren't as front forward facing as they were in the first administration .
Yeah , and you're right , I firmly believe in the first Trump administration . It was a learning curve . He learned the hard way many lessons . He also took it every day from the media . I mean , they were aggressive and out of control . They're still there to a certain degree , but not not to that extent , you know .
So I think I and I you know , and he knows how to shake things up and so , but I know what you're saying . Is there somebody there to pull back on the reins ?
I don't know and again , I don't necessarily mean in a policy sense , I mean in a political sense , where you're just like be tactical , as tactical as you can be right now they're a bull in a china shop which has good and it has bad , and so you , just you have to weigh those out .
Yeah , like no chainsaw from Elon to talk about , like hey , we're coming after fraud and all this stuff . At the same time you're announcing all these cuts to USAID which needed to happen .
But again , you don't need a chainsaw just to like , don't poke the bear of the American people , Like make sure that you are doing things on behalf of the American people in a professional stance . So that to me , I think , is that's something that would like show some maturity , a little bit Sure .
I agree .
Okay , another thing that we're going to talk about . We're going to speaking of poking the bear . Okay , I , I you guys are going to disagree with me on this one I . I think this latest picture that the white house has put out of Trump and I know this is a trolling picture of Trump dressed up as a pope is not a good look or move by the White House .
I think it was poorly executed , terrible timing . I understand he's trying to be funny . He's trying to make fun of him , of the media and everybody else . That's gone over crazy . I think it was in bad taste and I think that he's going to offend more people than he needed to . There was .
It was in bad taste and I think that he's going to offend more people than he needed to . There was zero reason to do this .
Okay , mike .
Well , first of all he was asked the question who do you think the next Pope should be ? And he jokingly said how about me ?
You know that's exactly that's the question that she was asking to meet the press , what does MAGA exist If you're gone ? She was looking to see if she could hook him in to talk about . Oh no , I am the leader of MAGA , right ? So he falls for the question . When it comes to the pope , it's like I should be the pope Really .
Really . And then this picture comes out . Obviously you know it's all in jest , as we know , but reality is this Anything you give the opposition to use to attack you with , they're going to use and they're finding this to be a sword .
Well , it's low-hanging fruit , so of course they could use it .
Yeah , I tend to be pretty liberal on these things , in the respect that it's a joke . And being Catholic , the most important part about being a Catholic is about faith in Jesus Christ , period . Okay . Now if Trump goes out ? And I asked myself this question if Trump shows up dressed like Jesus , do I have a problem with it ? I do I do .
at that point I'm like you don't .
That's the guy you don't mess with . To me , this is like it's a bit of a it's a bit of a joke . To me , I think it's . I understand your point , chrissy . I do .
I'm not even Catholic , I'm just saying I , but I do think that this could be offensive to some Catholics . You have a major sense of humor , Mark . You have thick skin . There's a lot of things that people haven't poked fun at you about and you're like whatever Like . I's like and just and all the like .
The narratives about you not , you know , being born in New Mexico , the nativism , you know , jokes you can have a field day with that . We do mean tweets to make fun of things that people have said about you in the past , right .
Right , it's no big deal .
You're very much on humor . Humor is the way to handle your critics , right , yeah , and Trump has a very good sense of humor . I mean , we saw that during the campaign . I mean
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when he's on stage he comes up with stuff that I'm dying . At that I was like , oh my gosh , I didn't know this guy was actually this funny , but I just think bad timing poor taste , Well timing , you can't do this any other time .
You can't do it when we don't have a conclave coming up .
Everybody's like . Why is he like the don't think you should do it . That's all I'm saying . I think it was unnecessary . It felt egotistical in me . It felt a little narcissistic , you know , narcissistic , and again like .
I think here's my real problem with this , when it boils down to it too , is , my biggest argument with people is like , well , you're a Christian . Like , if they're against Trump , well , you're a Christian . How , as a Christian , can you support Donald Trump ?
And my answer has always been he's not my pastor , he's not my spiritual advisor , he is the president of the United States , right ? So this goes against like them , him coming out and be like well , maybe I should be the next Pope in jest , I get it's in jest . But no , like Trump is not like this superhero Christian guy .
To start with , like , right , you don't put him on this pinnacle of some sort of Christian hood . That's not why you voted for the guy , if you voted for him , in my opinion , right . So this I just feel like too far too . He jumped the shark with this , okay .
Okay , fonzie , I think he jumped the shark . Okay , one last thing . I don't , but I read this tweet from the Daily Mail and I have no idea what it means , so I just thought I would read it to you . So , by the way , kuyong is a region in Australia . Okay , I looked that up . But I looked it up , I didn't know it . Kuyong election results .
Teal doctor Monique Ryan , who doesn't answer journalist questions , has a rogue husband who tears down candidate signs , celebrates victory after being pooed on by a bird on election day . I have no idea what any of that means and I don't see . Is the poo ? Am I missing the poo here somewhere ? I don't see it . I don't see it either , but anyway .
So Kuyong is apparently in Australia . I don't know how she's a teal doctor . Is she ? Is that mean ? Is is apparently in Australia . I don't know how she's a teal doctor . Is that a town ? Is she just wear teal ? Everybody behind her is wearing teal . Is that what's going on ?
And then her husband I don't know what his deal is with tearing down signs , and then she gets pooed on by a bird on election day and I think she won . So congratulations to Monique Ryan on a big win for the teal doctor . But watch the birds . A bit bizarre , a bit bizarre .
It's a bit bizarre . Maybe Daily Mail should clean up what they actually tweet so we can all understand what they're talking about .
Yeah , I don't even know what's going on here . Okay , by the way , Mike , thanks for coming in .
I appreciate it . It's always my pleasure .
By the way , what's going on ? Victory .
News this week . I'll be live in Denver all week . Of course . We've got Victory News , of course , 12 and 5 pm East Coast time , monday through Friday . So it's going to be an interesting week . Of course , we're going to follow what's going to happen with the conclave , which starts , of course , on the 7th .
Yep , and speaking of the conclave , we are going to have Father John Carney on on Wednesday evening show . We're going to talk to him about it .
Again , he's not been behind the scenes of the conclave but as a Catholic priest he's going to talk to us about the importance of selecting this pope , what kind of pope he'd like to see , what kind of values he wants to see in the pope . So he's hilarious . If you've never seen him , we had him on our holiday special .
It was very well received and he's a great guy and a lot of fun . We talked about all different sorts of issues .
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