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You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right . Well , I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right . There's only an up or down . This is the no Doubt About it . Podcast .
No doubt about it Now your hosts Christy and Mark Runcany . Sometimes you got to stand up and take responsibility .
I mean , you do , I know usually let's just dive right on in , because we don't have a lot of time today . We don't , we don't . We're going to do rapid reacts .
Yes , To Trump's speech , which was for the ages , in many different ways , but no , I . Usually we have the kids help writing the email that we put out .
Okay , and I know you didn't realize this , but I may have taken over the email the last one we sent out and in my haste to try and continue my war with the North American beaver , I mentioned the beaver as the largest rodent and apparently we had a .
We had a someone write in and say , hey , they're not the largest rodent and you thought the girls did it and it was me .
And I would never do that . I know the largest rodent .
Well , I know that you do .
I know that .
But I'm going to say this yeah , I have stood next to a capybara , I have stood next to multiple beavers , alive , and those that met their end . Yes , and let me tell you something , the beaver is bigger . Okay , I'm just saying it right now . The little capybara that we saw in Mexico , no , that was like a baby . That thing was tiny .
I'm telling you right now I've seen some beavers that are massive . Okay , and I stand by that . The North American beaver , whether it is actually official or not , is not only a rodent , but it is a massive rodent and a destructive rodent .
Okay , well , this woman was just wanting to clarify with our email . This is a mistake .
I would never make . So I just , I just want to make sure my name isn't tarnished , because I've known since I was like seven that the capybara was the largest rodent .
How could you , how dare you ? Well , I honestly , you guys help us write the email . So I assume , yeah , I honestly , you guys help us write the email .
So I know , I know , mom , I appreciate you trying to trying to deflect and give me a pass on that . It was me , it was me , I , uh , I did , but again I stand by the mistake . Let me just say that .
Okay , let me just say that I'm not backing away from the mistake down on your beaver height and weight .
Yes , Weight and and destructive power .
Oh , they're nightmares , but anyway , okay , let's move on .
Yes , okay .
I got things I got to do today we're actually recording this pretty early which ? Is good for us , but yes , Okay , so we've got some comments we want to dive in really fast and I'll get your take on those .
Yeah , yeah , yeah Comments . And then we're going to talk about the speech on Tuesday night , which was basically
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acted as a state of the union , and it was like none we've ever seen of the union , and it was like none we've ever seen .
So we'll get through that . Well , because normally a state of the union address you're kind of a new president . You haven't done a whole lot in six weeks . This one was a little different .
Well , you can't have a state of the union if you've only been president for six weeks , too , it's not allowed . So it's a joint address to Congress , right ? But a lot of times , with a president that's back in again , it would be a State of the Union , right ? Right , because he's non-consecutive , right ? It's considered just a joint address to Congress .
Right , so but yeah and this was his fifth one , right , because he had the four before and then this one . So you would have thought you know , you knew how to deal with Trump coming in , and it turns out , no , no , turns out , no .
Turns . We're getting into that , but let's get to a couple of these really quickly . Yeah , so Renee says I disagree with your assessment of the AZ governor's race as someone who lives in Arizona . Karen Robeson does not have a good reputation here , whereas Andy Biggs does . Robeson is known as a McCain Republican who runs for office on her husband's dime .
It will be an interesting primary for sure .
Okay , renee . Here's the thing I would say about that . Renee , the reason I disagree with you is because Karen Taylor Robeson has Donald Trump's endorsement . Okay , when she ran against Carrie Lake for the nomination for governor . In what ? 2020 ? Okay , or is it 2022 ? 2022 . When she ran in 2022, .
She did not In the world's longest primary , in the world's longest primary , because you guys in Arizona don't vote until August in your primary , which is ludicrous , insane ridiculous . But anyway , she did not have Trump's endorsement and so even without Trump's endorsement , she came within five points of Lake .
Okay , Karen Taylor Robeson is going to roll with Trump's endorsement because she's going to have more money and , by the way , she's pretty accomplished person on her own . So I understand that her husband has done very well , but she's done very well too . So a little unfair there to say she's living off his dime .
But I will just say this With Trump's endorsement , renee , I think that's what changes this and that's why the whole Republican purity test that could hurt her in some cases . It won't hurt her in this case . With Trump's endorsement , she will be unbeatable .
And in a state like Arizona , that Trump endorsement helps her very much .
So , in any Republican primary . It helps you right In any Republican but doesn't necessarily help you in an election not in the general election Right Right , but it will help her in both in this particular case .
Right In Arizona .
Yep For sure , okay .
L Davis says , and I like this one . I just had to read this one because we talked about I should be polled as a potential candidate in our last show . I think Christy would be a breath of fresh air and you can still be a team . Have you seen MLG ? She's a flaming idiot .
Christy is knowledgeable and not afraid to share her thoughts .
L Davis , thank you so much , You're so kind . I think there were some more comments . They said you should run for governor .
I should be your AG . Oh Lord , oh my goodness , Putting you in a courtroom . Well , all you're going to do is quote a few good men . Oh , I love it .
Yeah , I can play one . Hey , I'm not an attorney , I can just play one on TV .
I think they meant LG . I don't need you as Lieutenant governor , I can promise you that .
Oh , I'd be a heck of a Lieutenant governor .
No , you wouldn't you just back down . You would be grabbing the microphone I become the governor and I'm like hey everybody . No , you'd become the governor , and then you would not let me back in the state . I'd be like Mark is out .
I'm in everybody . No , I think the bulk of the sentiment is we've got a mess in Santa Fe , right ? And people just want common sense and I think they listen to us and they're like these two just make good common sense , so don't be offended , Mark .
No , no , no , no , and you would be a great elected official . I do believe that it's just that half the time there'd be a cleanup on aisle seven . I mean , it would just be like , oh my gosh you know , somebody , somebody , somebody fire up the state constitution . I'm pretty sure we have a constitutional crisis on our hands .
So , okay , if you think I can't handle what I say , sir .
Oh , believe me , I've lived it .
You . Well , this is a marriage I would not do that ? I would not do that at the state Capitol , you fool .
I gotta be honest with you . You cross over lanes of traffic like no one I've ever seen .
Hey , just because I can't drive doesn't mean I can't be a good elected leader .
It's a metaphor .
Okay , I'm talking about literally , I am not a good driver . So well , that's true too .
But you swerve over and you , you , you cover different issues crossways .
I mean it turns in .
I do love doing in , but I still I do think you could be great . Oh , thanks so much . No , I mean that . No , I mean all right .
Anyway , we're moving on , everybody , we're moving on . Okay , Uh , junk Jack says . I disagree with both of you on the baby leave benefit . For my experience using paternity leave at a previous job , it was an incredible benefit . It took all 12 weeks , which turned out to be a blessing .
My wife was on doctor-ordered bed rest and I got valuable one-on-one time with my first child , helped the family caught up on house projects and even built extra savings through side hustles . This was all possible because the leave was company-funded . I do understand concerns about tax burdens on businesses , especially the smaller ones .
Yeah , no , I absolutely understand that too , because , look , you're talking about two different things , though in that email , right , you're talking about the private funding of this .
For example , when we worked for Nexstar , which owns KRQE , they would give you a certain amount of money to be able to do the same thing , which is very nice and a great thing to do . I think it's a killer thing to do . In fact , it should be a selling point that a lot of these companies use when they try to hire people .
A lot of these companies use when they try to hire people . She'd say look , our family leave policy is really aggressive and we give you a really good opportunity to do exactly what you're talking about , junk Jack .
I think it's great , but to sit there and go to every New Mexico small business and say we're going to tax you perhaps the largest tax increase in state history and put another thing on your back that you can't afford , that doesn't work .
So just because it's a good idea and we want to see people do it , especially by their own volition , forcing small businesses to do it that don't have the ability to do it is not the right solution . So the state foisting that on small business owners . That's the killer in this whole thing . It isn't the policy itself .
Okay , All right . Well , let's dive in , because last night's we wanted to record . Actually , last night I think if we had looked a little better you know I was- you know I took a good .
I took one look at you and was like no .
I took one look at myself and said , no . I was like , no , we can't do that .
We could put a slate up for us and then we just talk .
I'll do all kinds of reports if I don't have to be on camera .
Are you kidding ?
me , I'll be like , I'll be on like five times a day . You guys will be sick of us . So let's , uh , let's talk about this first clip , kind of made across , kind of went viral yesterday , um , across all social media platforms , just this script that went out . It looks like across , I don't know , all Congress .
Well , well , it's not . So there were I think there were roughly , and I don't know how many house members , but 20 senators put out the same video , basically , where they all read the same script .
There was more than that Cause . I saw a different version of this
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and it looks like you remember when they did um uh the media thing .
Yeah Well , that stems from when these media companies that own all these stations when they write something for the stations and they give it to all the stations , then all the anchors read the same thing . That's what that was .
Well , the one I actually saw , sir was actually people from Congress , it wasn't media members .
Oh , I'm sorry about that .
Yeah , okay , so remember the Brady , before you rudely interrupted me .
I was trying to make a point yes .
The Brady Bunch . Remember how the Brady Bunch with the boxes , and then it would like multiply , and multiply , and multiply . That's what the one I saw , and I'm telling you it was more than 20 , but anyway , go go on , carry on , sir , it was 20 members of Congress .
Christy , finishing a distinction without a difference . Okay , so let's , let's go ahead and go through this . And is there a couple of our members here from New Mexico ? Our two senators and then Chuck Schumer and , I believe , elizabeth Warren . So this is how they saw fit to kind of seed the field before seeding the field , meaning , you know issues .
They wanted to stick out there before Trump went and gave his speech . So here's how that came off , when they all put their videos out .
I will immediately bring prices down starting on day one . So here's how that came off when they all put their videos out are going up . Prices are not down , they're up . Prices are up , not down . Inflation is getting worse . Inflation is getting worse . Inflation is getting worse .
Inflation is getting worse . I love that they all have the same microphone too . Like do they hand out a little kit . The cost of groceries .
Prices of eggs is up . Prices of groceries is up .
Cost of medical goods is up right now .
Eggs of essential .
Donald Trump has done nothing to lower costs for you . Donald Trump has time to pardon the guys who beat up the cops at the Capitol . Instead , he's pardoned violent criminals who savagely beat police officers . Instead , he's pardoned violent criminals who beat police officers . Okay , I think we get the point , but this is definitely just all .
it's just a , it's propaganda is what it kind of feels like . It feels like just an ad , right , so just like , hey , everybody do this . You know what this reminds me of ? When you ran for governor , they did this whole ad about you hating women and you killing women's rights and blah , blah , blah , blah , blah .
And what was interesting is people thought these were New Mexico people that were speaking against you , right , we found out that that was a national ad put out by the Democratic Party that was running in several states , same by the Democratic Party that was running in several states , same people .
They just put in whoever the candidate was that was running for that position and saying that that person was gonna kill women and that person wasn't gonna protect women's reproductive rights and blah , blah , blah , blah , blah . So this reminded me of that , that it's like this machine , this marketing machine that tries to put these things out , is it effective ?
I think they look like big phonies .
Well , they do now because you remember , if you were relying on the mainstream media to call this out , they never would , they never would . But we don't live in that world anymore . We live in a world where you have Twitter and you have a bunch of other media sources that put this stuff together and then they put it out .
So , all of a sudden , people are seeing different stuff than they were before . So they're not just watching mainstream media , which would never point this out , they would never point out , but now they do , because you have different sources and it floods your .
It floods your ex you know feed , it floods your Facebook , it floods all these different things where people say this is crazy . So what it requires is some actual creative thought in in enough of the laziness and this is just pure laziness and them trying to stay on a message .
Now , political groups all the time , both Democrat and Republican put out talking points . Do it all the time . It happens , right , but usually you don't have a full on script that you're reading off a teleprompter .
With your microphone that you hold right here , it's like a little kit showed up in the mail for each , each rep saying here , use this microphone . Here's the script and this is how you record yourself . It was like these notes on it , it seemed , and I remember vividly .
Going back to your campaign , I'm sorry to bring this up , but I went after some of the news stations and said fact check this ad . And nobody would do it . Don't be crazy .
But that's the point . Things have changed now and so , because things have changed , people's perception is changing , because the information they receive changes , and so , as that happens , what you see is most normal people are like yeah , that's ridiculous , come on . And then Elizabeth Warren , I've got to say she really right from here .
She was from here every time we should have given the Oscars for this phony baloney marketing campaign . So it is , but , but I do think it just shows you that . It just shows you , in the social media age , things have changed , and so when you don't have a monopoly on the information that people receive , turns out you're on equal footing .
And when you're on equal footing , things have turned out to be a really rough for at least the party right now out of power . And so when we saw Trump walk in after all of this , we saw Trump walk into the chamber on a Tuesday , and who knew , but our very own Melanie Stansbury , and we've talked about this before .
There are two types of people in Congress there are workhorses and there are show horses , and the ultimate show horse , melanie Stansbury , has a sign that says this is not normal . As Trump walks in . Just a juvenile thing to do be an adult .
There are people in this country that have real problems , that want to know that their representatives care and are doing something about it . Holding up a handwritten sign saying this is not normal , like like you just look unserious and unable to stand up for the job that you have been elected for .
And to me , I just watched that and watched her and rolled my eyes and said she's gotten into this world now where everybody around her saying you go girl , you do this , you do that and she's not realizing that she's becoming nothing more than a show horse clown . Don't do that , look .
If you want to stand up for what you believe in and you think president Trump is wrong , make that point and make real points that people care about . But instead she is a show horse that more often than not runs to the cameras with inane statements that don't advance the lives of any American or especially any new Mexican .
I mean she's talked about that We'll have to boil water because the Trump's going to shut that down , Right ? She does ridiculous pictures in front of egg cartons in DC I'm talking about , there's no eggs and they're so expensive and blah , blah , blah , just dumb stuff .
And I'm like if you actually follow the news on any of this , you know that you're making , with martin heinrich coming out yesterday saying he wasn't going to attend I keep thinking that's a smarter move than what they did , though give me a break . You're , it's your job to show up .
I'm sorry there's plenty of people that sat through biden's nonsense and showed up for it . I'm sure there was people that you know . Whatever I mean , remember the big historical big scene that was done by Republican back in Obama days was calling him a liar in this . Remember that .
And that was like well , and then Marjorie Taylor Greene standing up and screaming it at Biden . It was stupid . And Biden made her look stupid , by the way , right , and so it went up .
I just think in general .
I totally agree . Grow up like you , take this job seriously . I totally agree .
Grow up Like you , take this job seriously and I'm sorry , whoever the president is , we clearly understand that you don't support him . I mean , you couldn't , we'll get to this , but you can't even stand when you should be standing and clapping Right Even on normal human things you should be standing and clapping and they couldn't do that .
It just shows a major lack of maturity , I think .
Well , agreed , I totally agree with you , and it is one of those things that keeps getting worse Right , and so it does not serve them well . So , representative Al Green , from Texas , he just kept screaming at Trump . And again , if you're not in the room you didn't hear this as much from people that were in the room were like it was constant .
People were screaming at him , getting up and walking out stuff that is just incredibly juvenile and it's got to stop . And Al Green , now what did they do ? Well , mike Johnson had the rule waiting there and said if you do this again , you know it's subject to rule X , y , z , we're going to have to remove you . All of a sudden , they remove him .
He looks stupid and Trump doesn't care . Trump loves the environment and keeps on going . So this was just a speech that played exactly into what Trump is best at , which is the showmanship , a mix of common sense things that most people shouldn't and don't disagree on , and then wrapping in human stories that are impossible not to be moved by .
So you take those two , unless you're Democrat . Well , and that's what . That's what doesn't . Now , there are some Democrats a few who stood up here and there , but for the most part , you're right . They all sat there and you , you literally and we'll get into this but you literally had a 13 year old who's surviving cancer stand up and applaud this young man .
I mean , it's incredibly heart wrenching to watch this and he's an adorable kid , right , and you see the story . I don't care if you don't like Trump , who cares ? We're talking about the 13 year old kid . Now it is the brilliance of what Trump did . So he mixed humor , he mixed issues that are 80 , 20 in his favor and then he mixed human stories .
That's what he did , and so that if you're sitting there watching that , stand up sometimes , just stand up and clap for the right things and then when he goes and hammers your party , you can boo him or whatever you want to do . Like we all get it , it's politics .
But watching this , I want to hit on a few of these clips because they are fascinating , and this first one to me was classic Trump , because they took the issue of government waste right , and the issue of government waste is again . Issue of government waste is again , and it's an 80 20 issue .
When you start listing off ridiculous things we're spending money on , normal americans say what the heck is going on here right and the way trump does .
This is very well done 45 million dollars for diversity , equity and inclusion scholarships in Burma . $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants Nobody knows what that is . $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ In the African nation of Lesotho , which nobody has ever heard of .
$60 million for indigenous people , I plus in the African nation of Lesotho , which nobody has ever heard of . Okay , so I just for indigenous peoples and Afro Colombian empowerment in central America , $60 million .
Okay , so there is . So that's just . It's funny because Trump is right . No one's ever heard of that , you know so it's hilarious . It's short , it's punchy . Know so , it's hilarious , it's short , it's punchy , but it connects . Everybody's like yeah , what are you sedentary migrants ? What are we talking about here ?
Right , agreed . Yeah , I definitely think that hit home with a lot of people . I think the touchy part with this still is and we're not going to dive into it right now but the touchy part is still some of these federal firings , and are they being done , are they being handled in the most appropriate fashion ? And are you know , are you know ?
Obviously the cuts do have to happen , but we've talked about previously on shows that the Doge does have to be careful about how they manage some of this , because you don't want to be just , you know , hacking away at people that still deserve to have their jobs or should be reviewed at least .
Well , not only should be reviewed . If it does have to happen , it needs to happen in a compassionate way that doesn't turn this into a , a circus , right . When you saw , like you know , musk with and I think you know musk is unbelievable , but when he shows up with a uh chainsaw , it's like , yeah , okay , but there are people losing their job .
So you know , and again , have some respect right right , right . So that's that . But then the other . The other area where this was was very clear is on the border another 80 20 issue , really , most people realizing the border was out of control completely and trump Trump did two things here . So the first one was talking about taking on the cartels .
Territory to the immediate south of our border is now dominated entirely by criminal cartels that murder , rape , torture and exercise total control . They have total control over a whole nation , posing a grave threat to our national security . The cartels are waging war on America and it's time for America to wage war on the cartels , which we adore .
Okay , I mean , that's the sort of stuff , and when you're not standing for that and you're just sitting there , you know all of a sudden , whose side are you on , right ? Yeah , the lines are clear .
Yeah , I feel like you know this is to me . And then going into this next one really fast , when he's talking about just the fact that we don't need a new law to actually crack down on border crossings .
This line was the line of the night . I think it was the line of the night .
So let's play it really quickly before I say too much .
The media and our friends secure the border , but it turned out that all we really needed was a new president .
I mean outstanding , outstanding point there . Just that , to me , is why this felt so much more like a State of the Union address in the fact that you know he basically , I mean , I think what is it ? Ninety two percent less crossings now than happened in you know the most recent things .
So it was like an actual , uh , real , um , you know six , seven week point of reference that you don't normally see right in something like this speech . So that's what I'm saying to me , that's where the that that you can kind of see . Okay , now he's giving real results , which to me feels more state of the union well .
I know he's not allowed to do that right now , but no , no , no , no , but agreed it could .
That's absolutely the same sort of speech . But I agree with you . You make a great point , which is usually two results take longer than this , right ? You look at it and go , okay , I've got a new plan in place .
It's going to take a while for it to work , like he's going to have to say on tariffs , because tariffs are going to be a concern , right , and so you know if there could be some pain involved with this or whatever , right People forget .
Early on in the Reagan administration his popularity went down significantly right after the election and it took a couple of years . He got smoked in the 82 midterms and then everything took off , because everything Reagan did started to work Right .
Well , trump , with the border policy , especially that one , just in the snap of a finger changed it just showed that the will was not there for Biden . It was disingenuous everything he was doing .
So now you realize Trump says we're going to , we're going to block things down and messaging matters , right , the messaging that people get and that migrants get in other parts of the world , that messaging matters from the president of the United States . And if the president says , look , you can't come in here and do it this way . You have to do it legally .
They listen in some cases now . Sometimes they don't , but but overall you can see those total numbers backing way off .
Right , Okay , so another uh true Trumpism came at a shot against Elizabeth Warren .
Well , it was yeah . So he's talking about the Ukraine war and you know what are we going to do with the Ukraine war ? He did read a statement from Zelensky saying I want to . I want to make peace , right . So this has been a huge adjustment . Everybody on Friday freaks out . I can't believe Trump and Zelensky . They end up .
And what did we say on the show ? He said it doesn't matter . There is one
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thing that matters , and that is Trump is the only path to peace for Zelensky . It's just true , it's just the way it is right now . And so Trump trying to play both ends against the middle , I think more than some people are comfortable with with Russia , and I think some of the rhetoric has been a little too Russia-friendly , I think too .
But at the same time , you're trying to negotiate a deal between those two and Zelensky now has realized I've got to work this deal , we've got to work the rare earth minerals deal and we've got to end this fight . Ok , we've got to finish this off .
Well , trump starts talking about this and Democrats start start clapping about the aid and wanting more aid for the Ukraine . And Trump's basic point on this is to what end ? To what end ? Like we just keep going and people keep dying . And so then , as you mentioned , what does he do ?
Well , I mean , I think he said you know what are we going to do ? Keep this war going for five more years . And then you could see they cut to Elizabeth Warren who was clapping like , yeah , let's keep this thing going . And he's like of course , this is what you're going to say , but he says it in a Trump way , do ?
you want to keep it going for another five years ? Yeah , yeah , you would say . Pocahontas says yes .
Pocahontas says yes .
Okay , okay , explain the Pocahontas for those people who don't understand .
So he refers to her as that because at one point she said she was of Native American heritage , which I think is largely untrue . She may be of the slightest , I don't know , but but she basically put on some sort of application form that she was Native American .
Right and so , therefore , trump grabbed the the Pocahontas reference and and referred to her with that . But but again , his bigger point is this is again the bigger point is Trump's the guy standing for peace and she's crapping for more war . Right , it's just a terrible place to be .
He also did say , like listen , we're sick of the young people from both sides dying , right From Ukraine and from Russia dying , and so you know we need to end this , and we need to end it now . And if those of you that don't want it to end you're still clapping , I just it's again . It's just like common sense would tell you ? What are you ?
What are you clapping for Elizabeth ?
Like what I don't understand , I guess , and I do think we should have given Ukraine help . I look at we may disagree . There are plenty of Republicans who don't think we should have given them it . Well , so what then ? So then Russia sweeps across Ukraine and has all of Ukraine right now . I don't agree with that . I don't .
And I'm sorry if there are some republicans like , oh , we should have never been involved , okay , then we go . Then all ukraine's gone and they're on the border of poland , okay , I just think that's not right either . So so I don't think that the us was wrong to help . I do not think that at all . So so I you know whatever . You cannot like that .
If you know whatever , that's fine , but you know again . But I agree with you then . But now that's not where are ? So we're at a stalemate in a war , that's just . It's going to be a meat grinder , right , if we continue to help Ukraine and Russia continues to push . Just people are going to die . So you're going to try to fix this .
And again , zelensky now says all right , well , let's talk about this .
Now I'm ready . Yeah . Which makes a Another big moment I felt like was a lot of the military conversations Right . Not only did he address Pete Hegseth , as you know , taking on things , things of that nature , he really came back around to this whole Afghanistan . You know us pulling out of Afghanistan the 13 Marines who died .
Well , yeah , yeah . The Abbey Gate Right , and the theme here was more so that because Trump's president , now things have happened Right . So there was the Russian right the guy who was in a Russian prison and brought his 95-year-old mom , and Trump said I'm going to get you out of there . He told the 95-year-old mother I'm going to get your son home .
He did it Right . The situation with the border he said I'm going to fix it . He did it . With the border he said I'm going to fix it . He did it . And then the Abbey Gate situation . We don't know what happened with that . We didn't have any arrests on what happened .
Biden said we're going to chase you to the ends of the earth and catch the people who did this . We didn't get a single one . So now Trump announces in the speech hey , we've got some of the people who did this and they're on their way , flying back to the United States as we speak . And here's what that sounded like Our country .
Tonight I am pleased to announce that we have just apprehended the top terrorist responsible for that atrocity , and he is right now on his way here to face the swift sword of American justice .
Yeah , I think he just kind of showed up with receipts last night . It was a receipt speech . It was here's what I'm doing . Here's what I said I would do and here's what I've done so far .
And , by the way , ps , I've been in office for six weeks or seven weeks , so I think that was a really good approach for whoever helped write this speech and kind of piece this thing together and put the right people in the audience and really kind of bring that all home .
Another thing this is again just Trump calling people like he calls them , and I think there's a lot of people out there that just want somebody authentic and he obviously doesn't hold back .
Sometimes maybe he should , but in this particular approach I thought good for you for saying this , because he called the democratic party out , for basically , you know , like hey , I could basically cure things up here and it's not going to make any difference . They're still not going to like me and they're going to sit in their seats .
So take a listen to this one . I think this was the right way of handling it , honestly .
This is my fifth such speech to Congress and once again I look at the Democrats in front of me and I realize there is absolutely nothing I can say to make them happy or to make them stand or smile or applaud . Nothing I can do .
I could find a cure to the most devastating disease , a disease that would wipe out entire nations , or announce the answers to the greatest economy in history or the stoppage of crime to the lowest levels ever recorded , and these people sitting right here will not clap , will not stand and certainly will not cheer for these astronomical achievements .
They won't do it , no matter what . Five times I've been up here . It's very sad and it just shouldn't be this way it's .
It's a super smart approach because of the way they acted and they and they and they , they did this in a way that made them an easy target for it . And and remember that line has to be written well before he ever goes into that room .
He has to know like , for example , if Democrats are regularly standing and applauding for different things , that line doesn't work right . But he knew they wouldn't .
Yeah , he knew they wouldn't do it .
And he knew the playbook they were going to follow . They were going to try the whole resist thing , the science thing , the walkout thing , the stand up and scream thing we wear pink things .
Yeah , absolutely .
Absolutely and whatever it is , and not standing for simple things that show your humanity means that you leave yourself open to broadsides where you look like nothing but opposition . Whatever he's for , I'm against . And when you're acting that way , you end up on the 20 side of an 80-20 issue .
He keeps doing it to them and they keep walking into the wood chipper it's amazing and I want to just mention this because I know we didn't do anything on this on the show , but this really bothered me this week that the fact that the Democrats basically tabled any vote to bring into law the rights for women in sports , the fact that they couldn't get that
across . You know when that is an 80 20 issue , when the people that you are representing are against this issue , one entirely vote to basically say they don't get enough votes to say that they're willing to put this up as a bill . Right , so it's , it's , it's done .
The Senate killed it . Is that who killed it ?
Yeah it's . I just know it was sitting Democrats . I don't know if it was Senate .
Yeah , I think it had to be , I think it was Senate , yeah , yeah , so they needed 60 votes , they , they needed 60 votes , they needed 60 votes .
I think they got 51 , if I recall right . So not enough to push forward , to go forward with a bill , right ? Because you have enough Democrats in there that say , because this is Trump's idea , I'm not . I mean , even though my people back my constituents , this is what they want I'm going to vote against it .
And I just think how tone deaf are they when they do things like that Now this is an executive order , right ? They do things like that Now this is an executive order , right ? That's . All this is is an executive order , and if another president decides to overturn this , they can .
You know , and that's what's so disappointing about this is that this is an issue that absolutely should have been dealt with , and I , I'm I just do not understand it .
So I know that it's a very fair point , but it but it it does show you that the how off balance they are right now . And so I want to get into some of these other a couple other people that Trump called up in some magical moments because it was unbelievable .
And so there's a little boy in the crowd , 13-year-old DJ Daniel , and he had cancer from a very young age , Started back in 2018 . He was given five months to live , and now we're seven years later and he's still there and he wants to be a police officer and he has been sworn in as a police officer in his hometown .
But , but Trump had another thing up his sleeve for him . He wanted to be secret service , and so they they made him a secret service agent , with the head of the secret service there to present him with this . And if you didn't watch this and start to have your allergies get to you , then you're just not . You don't have a heartbeat , right ?
It's totally sweet , so check this out . And then there's the head of the secret service standing next to him and he gives him a big hug I mean , that's organic , that just happens , right ? I mean that isn't something you can plan for and jumping into the arms of the head of the secret service and saying thank you very much , and his dad there with him .
I mean again , you could have stood right here , you could have stood .
The fact that you're a Democrat and you sit there and say I'm not going to stand up for whatever reason . And this is a 13 year old boy that is dealt with brain cancer . For I mean really , yeah . And this is a 13 year old boy that is dealt brain cancer . For I mean really , yeah , that's what you're going to die on that Hill .
You're going to sit on that Hill and you're like , nope , I'm not going to clap for this one .
Yep .
Really , because because who ? The people that you , you've all met with over coffee , have decided we're not going to clap one time , we're not going to stand . They made this like code of honor to like .
But again he's walking them into the wood chipper .
They're just like here I come , heartless . Another one , too , was when Trump announced that Jason Hartley is going to get to attend West Point , and his dad was an LA County Sheriff , I believe and died in the line of fire , right .
Something like that , yep .
And he really wants to go to West Point .
Yes .
And so he saved the moment for this speech , that he invited him as a guest , and then he announces that he did in fact get in .
He did , and so , all of a sudden , jason's thrilled , right . But here's the thing that's amazing about this is that not only this , we're going to show you a clip after Jason finds out and everybody's clapping for him , right ? Oh my gosh , this kid gets to go to West Point . He's going to be a great soldier . This is amazing .
But look who comes and gives him a hug after the announcement , or a high five , sorry it's a little , dj Daniel comes over and it's like that's an organic moment that nobody plans for nobody has any idea . And all of a sudden , little DJ goes over and go yeah man , I'm a secret service agent , you're going to West Point . I mean just you have to .
The stage craft of this and then the organic stuff that springs out of the stage craft is truly amazing .
Very patriotic and I and you know Trump used that as a way to talk about the fact that recruitment and military has gone up since January . So I just think it was a sweet moment . This is master communication .
It really is , and I did want to play one quick clip for those of you on the DJ thing , because before he stood up and they did everything , he did a little video that the white house put out and I just want you to listen to him and everything that he's been through and what he's doing and just to give you an idea that this is a special little boy .
My dad was calling my name and I started going to the slow thing and he said stop playing with me . And I started to act slow and then , as soon as he said that we were speeding all the way , running lights , going to the hospital and then next thing you know , I was seizing on the table they said , no , we're going to have to go on his brain tonight .
Ever since then , I had 13 brain surgeries , and that's how many times my personality has changed , and that's something that you don't hear from a terminally ill child . They have five months to live . I'm going to keep on going into my gas tanks right now and that's when God calls you home . You never know when God's going to call you home .
I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for my dad . I know he's pretty proud of me and I'm pretty proud of him too , and I'd like to thank President Trump because if it wasn't for him , I wouldn't be here today . It's incredibly sweet .
Very sweet kid . Unfortunately , though , we have some people in the media that had to twist this into something just inappropriate .
When you have nowhere to go and you all you know is vicious opposition in in , then you always find a way to try to twist the knife . The problem is you end up looking like a ghoul when you do it Right . And this is Nicole Wallace . After watching that on MSNBC .
That that you let yourself feel and I let myself feel joy about DJ and I hope he's alive for another . You know 95 years and I hope he lives the life he wants to live . He wants to be a cop , he knows what he wants to do and maybe when you have childhood cancer that crystallizes for you and I hope he has a long life as a law enforcement officer .
But I hope he never has to defend the United States Capitol against Donald Trump's supporters and if he does , I hope he isn't one of the six who loses his life to suicide and I hope he isn't one who has to testify against the people who carried out acts of seditious conspiracy and then live to see Donald Trump pardon those people .
Yeah , I mean just incredibly inappropriate and an awful thing in an awful moment to bring it up . But again , when your whole life is centered around a political fight , you turn into a monster of sorts , because you give cursory tip of the cap to the emotion and then you go back in and you try to plunge the knife in again .
You're not hurting Donald Trump with this . You're making yourself look stupid and you're making yourself look like an absolute monster , and it's just stop .
And the fact that her colleagues didn't call her out on that ?
No , she never would . They never would , I just think how inappropriate .
They should have never let that hit air .
MSNBC says some stuff that is flabbergasting to me , and again , look at the numbers they're all collapsing , okay . So again Trump's got plenty of problems ahead with the economy , which we've talked about , and this is going to be very tricky with what happens with .
Now it looks like there could be a deal on tariffs coming up that it won't be as bad with with Mexico
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and and and Canada . We'll see what ends up happening , but there's a lot of economic problems out there . It's scary .
Why would they not just focus on things like that Right , right Pulling in with this kid and then just , you know , I don't know , I just felt like it was so inappropriate . I was gassed when I saw it seen waters . Yeah , so she's . You know , she's a little she just seems unhinged .
Honestly , when you watch this video , you're like what again ? Another wrong , another again . Trump just forces them off sides .
Every time , every time awful and I really did not like the way he used the tragic uh incidents and the families that were there who , of of course , appreciated you know what they think is their president caring about what happened , you know , to the 12 year old and to others who were victims , and we all feel sad and bad for them , but he misused them .
He misused them and what he did was he focused on them instead of focusing on the real issues that we're dealing with now .
Okay , listen , ma'am . First off , this is politics , and to drive stories home with personal anecdotes is absolutely the single most effective way to move policy in the history of the world right , connect a human story to it , and so to sit there and be like how could you do that ? It's just , it just is . It's , it's political clownery .
We all know that , okay , and that that stuff happens . So you see , someone like Maxine waters , who's for a long time heck , she stood up and said go confront people you know that voted for Trump and that are in the Trump administration . She said go physically confront them . She said that before . So stop with with this routine .
And I'm sorry , both sides during these speeches , they all do this , they all bring in real people .
The fact that it was disappointing too is , I feel , like saying hey , maxine , why did the Democrats not stand when they just addressed Lake and Riley's mom , who was there ? Like you lose a daughter , you're a parent in there , that was his first bill that he's gotten signed into law . He was , you know , the Lake and Riley bill .
Another promise that he kept .
Yeah , and he gets signed in , and so they address her , and he addresses her and has her stand in the in the Democrats in their seat and they cannot clap . Shockingly enough , meghan McCain was uh well .
Meghan McCain has definitely changed her tune to where she is . I think there's been some bridges built between Meghan McCain and the Trump administration . Really , yes , absolutely Okay . Well , this is her tweet .
So she shows here that she says shame on all the Democrats who wouldn't stand for Lake and Riley's mom . Her daughter was murdered . You ghouls , we see you , and it's just a matter of .
I've had some conversations on X lately with even fellow Republicans , and we've talked about the fact that the divisiveness on our side , what we're capable of ending Right , what we need to do to help bridge that gap , is to stop making fake attacks or weird attacks or picking on things that maybe aren't as big of a deal .
Stick to policy and and at the same point it's like be human Right . And then you look at the Democrats on the other side that can't stand for DJ Daniel , can't stand up for Lake and Riley's mom . Where is your heart Like ? Have you gotten so divided and so focused on your , your stance that you've lost any human connectivity ?
I just it definitely , and it doesn't even serve their own purpose as well . Right , that's the thing . That's . It's amazing . So it doesn't . It doesn't serve their purpose as well either . So that's why , at some point , they've got to re , they've got to get their footing again , because they don't have it right now . No , there's no question .
And but I'll tell you it was interesting watching major Garrett talk about this .
He's a CBS news commentator and a reporter and , again , this is not a compliment to Trump what he's about to say , but he's just properly assessing where things are right now and , after watching this speech , listen instead of piling on and saying , oh there were so many things I didn't like that .
He actually has the right take on this for someone who is in the mainstream media , who can't seem to figure out what's happening . At least Major Garrett seems to have figured this part out .
So I've learned to be humble about analyzing speeches like this , because the country often catches on to things that those of us in Washington might not sift the way the country does .
When the president listed things that he thought were extravagant examples of wasteful spending , those of us around this table might say , well , that's not going to be enough , even if you cut all that , to balance the budget , which is $840 billion out of balance . But Americans will hear it and say , wait a minute , those things sound wasteful .
To me Sounds like Elon Musk and the president are on to something . There was also tremendous emotive power in several parts of the speech that I think will resonate across the country .
Whether it's Lake and Riley , slain her mother and sister , or Mark and his mother , malfeen Fogle , rescued or brought back from Russia , or a Border Patrol agent , roberto Ortiz , or Stephanie Diller , the surviving spouse of a slain New York City police officer , those things carry emotional weight , not only in the moment but probably inevitably in the pass around social
media dissection of this speech . I keep my eyes and ears tuned to emotional moments like that that often jump over the instantaneous Beltway analysis .
Yeah , and it's yeah , yeah . And so you saw plenty of CNN melting down over everything and Scott Jennings going fighting back and everything else that you always see on CNN . You see the MSNBC reaction , which is off the charts , but again , those don't tend to land . So a couple of different things here .
First of all , cbs did a snap poll right after the speech . What do think the numbers looked like ?
well , I thought it was kind of um shocking actually . I mean , I obviously we see our side of the issue . We're like , yeah , applauding certain parts of that speech , but to see this kind of approval rating um across the board well on a cbs poll . Well , I about fainted .
Well , so there are . Here are the numbers right here , and it is 76 percent viewed this speech , approved of it , 23 disproved .
Now remember , you gotta remember you've got a weighted audience a little bit because people who tend to support the president of either party who gives these speeches they tend to watch the most right , okay all right , but still 76 23 is a big time number , like I don't I don't care who's watching the speech 76 , 23 , because you still have at least probably 30
to 40 percent of people that did not vote for Trump at all in this poll . So that did well . And then something else that's kind of interesting here , second part of the poll 63 percent said Trump spent time on issues that they care about a lot . Sixty three percent that's good speech . Writing , that's dialing in and knowing what you're dealing with .
28% said that he talked a little bit about it and then only 9% said he talked nothing at all about it . So when you talk for two hours , you're about most of the things . It was a long , long speech , and it wasn't only CBS , it was also CNN , who did a poll as well right after , and here's what they came up with the results .
What was your reaction to Trump's speech ? 44 percent of speech watchers in our instant poll tonight say they had a very positive reaction to Trump's speech . 25 percent somewhat positive . 31 percent negative .
That's a big number . That's 69 percent . Ok , that's an important number . So , overall , here look and we've said this on prior shows , we're going to continue to say it there are massive challenges ahead for trump . There is no doubt .
If the economy , if we don't get on solid footing with the economy and prices don't come down over the next year , at least got a year . To be honest , I don't think it's going to be one of these deals where you know they're going after him after six .
Six weeks is ridiculous right , I mean , it's blaming him for the egg prices , right , right , I mean it's crazy Blaming him for the egg price is still so stupid .
Right right right , it's too early for that , but at the same time you know like when you start piling up tariffs and stuff and that is going to push prices up some . You know it's not that you don't need to deal with this , and he did say there could be some rough times .
Yeah , With the stock market especially too .
That's one area , that's really we're feeling it . So by no means is this like all rainbows and everything , but it was just one of these days where you saw someone who is in his second term but had four years to prepare and absolutely laid a bear trap and the other side jumped right into it head first .
And the question is , how long do they continue to do this before they realize there's a there's ? There's going to have to be a better way , and I will say the democratic response to this from slot can , from Michigan . Her delivery was better , Like she felt , you know , kind of that middle of the country , more of a normalcy .
Now the problem is that her party doesn't tend to follow that path , right . So so you see her give this speech . You're like , yeah , that sounds , I understand what you're saying , Like she would critique him some and you'd be like , okay , I understand where she's coming from and it's a more effective critique .
But at the same time , I think what you can largely anticipate is her own party's going to ignore that approach , Like there's not going to do it .
If they keep staying on this path , though , I just think they continue to push their , their party , farther and farther , farther left , where people leave people behind , and I just think I don't know . I don't know if that means that there's a big shift to the independent party , I don't know either , or if something goes wrong .
Right in , Trump encounters problems . Where does the electorate go ?
Right , Because if you look at the other side , they're like no , but you know , we used to always get frustrated on the Republican side when you , during the Obama years and even somewhat during the Biden years , when you'd see policy just go off the rails , You're like why is everybody not flooding to the Republican side ?
Because if people don't feel like they can trust you and your party isn't welcoming them in with common sense policies , you don't get all those voters right . Those voters just kind of float out in the ether and sometimes they'll just kind of go along for a while and you don't see a shift .
So Republicans need to make sure they don't overreach and they keep very close tabs on the economy and continue to handle things , especially when you're talking about , you know , taking government spending and bringing it down and then getting rid of waste , fraud and abuse , doing that in a way that is not only effective but also understanding the gravity of that
moment . And then I think it's going to be very interesting , but it was quite a day for Trump . There's no doubt that this was a very different
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speech , One of the best I've ever seen him get .
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