¶ Terror Threats and Films
You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right . Well , I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right . There's only an up or down . This is the no Doubt About it . Podcast .
No doubt about it .
Now your hosts Christy and Mark Runcate . Well , happy New .
Year everybody . Happy New Year everybody 2025 .
Unbelievable .
It's here .
I can't believe we made it . I am shocked actually .
Are you shocked ?
I'm shocked . Well , I don't know what happened . I mean , I've been sitting at this table waiting for you to show back up . You've been out gallivanting on vacation .
Oh yeah , I mean I've been to . Let's see Fiji .
Yeah , fiji was good , fiji was pretty sweet . Yeah , was that good .
Well , I swung by Hawaii .
Oh , that's great . Who doesn't do that ? Well , you're in the South Pacific Right , Like who doesn't want to do that . Yeah .
And then I heard Barcelona is lovely this time of year , so I just swung on over there to take a Spanish cooking class . Wow , that's quite a just swung through London right .
Yeah , right , right , no I haven't done any of that .
We went to Colorado to see our family came back and we've been hustling to plan for 2025 . All the things we got to be doing for 2025 have kind of taken over and so you know there wasn't enough news to talk about . Yeah , or just kidding Like holy moly .
Yeah , it's . This is . We live in consequential times , I don't know any other way to say it . Yeah , there's a lot to talk about .
We'll get into some of the terror threat issues and , by the way , just so you know , coming up on an episode that we're going to drop , probably Monday , is we're going to have Reeve Swainston , our federal prosecutor former federal prosecutor is going to come in . We've had in Reeve before .
We're going to talk about what we do and what the federal government needs to be doing and what they're likely , at least partially , trying to do already probably and we don't know to what extent and that is to protect us against terrorist attacks , Because you saw what happened over the past few days , somebody that was homegrown .
But there are plenty of other concerns out there and we're going to talk about some of those two coming up in this show and the real concern that this could get much , much worse before it gets better . So Reid's going to talk about that again coming up on Monday and he's spent a career as a federal prosecutor dealt with the FBI .
Obviously they're one of the big investigative arms that he dealt with . So we're going to talk to him about what that looks like and what can we do to put ourselves in a position where we don't see a repeat of what we saw on New Year's night in New Orleans ?
Right , Just such a sad situation , Just you know awful , 14 people dead . Right , and a lot of those people were pretty young . And I looked up the victims and I was like this is just awful , Like just , I mean nothing that you want to hear about . And and then you , just , you know , now you're always wondering like , is this connected ? Is this connected ?
The all the subway madness in New York ? You're wrapping that all into the . You know it's like , ah , just , it feels a little chaotic . It feels a little chaotic , yeah , so yeah , and then the exploding Tesla .
You know the guy who who detonated the Tesla . We'll talk about him . We know a little bit more about him now that those two are likely not connected , but they happened at roughly the same time , within the same 12 hour period . So everybody's wondering are we talking about swarm attacks and things like that ?
Not the particular case likely , but could that be something in the future we have to concern ourselves with ? Because if you look back to October 7th in Israel in 2023 , is that the model ? What is the model that we should be concerned with ? Should we be concerned ? Maybe we shouldn't be concerned . I think we should , but it's definitely something to talk about .
So we'll get into all that stuff . A bunch of different issues to talk about . We even have the drunkest county in the country . We're featuring them . We're featuring them .
Well , thank goodness for that . So we can all know exactly where to probably not drive .
Well , yeah , Not necessarily the most drunk driving , but they just get liquored apparently I still would probably stay off the roads there .
Yeah , it's probably not a bad idea . That's just me .
And it is a tourist hotspot . I will say that that's not shocking .
Shocking , yeah and I see you've brought your investigative shirt on like yeah , he's kind of an investigator in the movie right , yeah , well , he's one of the great .
He's a couple called erwin m fletcher is one of the great writers of our time yes , okay , he was a reporter slash investigator , was he not ? Yeah , yeah he was a reporter .
Uh , yeah , absolutely in la like an la times writer or something .
Yeah , yeah yeah , he was . It's not the food section as he says and um , and he also , of course , uh , maybe put a little power forward for the lakers . Oh , at least in one of his dreams right yeah , six foot five and uh , six foot nine , with the afro in his dream is what he says he's in there .
So yeah , so I know it's one of your favorite movies , so we had to get that for you . For christmas , me and the girls got you one of your .
You know , if you haven't seen fletch , it still holds up pretty well . Yeah , it holds up pretty well . It's . Chevy Chase was awesome in it . Okay , it's one of the great movies . It is your favorite movie of all times I would say it's probably my top rank movie . I mean it definitely my top rank comedy .
Um , and then you know , a few good men is in there for of course it's gotta be an incredible , so yeah well , just so you know , I think it was kind of an even tie on our Christmas debate movie watching show . Just so you know , you did get a lot of props . People were very proud of you and go Mark , and I'm with Mark and a lot of people .
How do you consider it a tie then ?
Because it was like 10 to 1 .
No it wasn't 10 to 1 . It was about 10 to 1 .
No , a lot of people came to me and said and said I'm eight you lost . No , they said we love christy's list . They liked a lot of my picks for their number ones . I got points for that goodness gracious yeah , and then we got some people that said it's a tie , we love you both . I think they just felt bad picking one of us .
But yeah now I'll probably give it to you . You probably want you won because you put christmas vacation as the number one movie .
That's everybody's favorite movie yeah so okay , well , no , there's a look , you know whatever your favorite is , but the problem is , my problem with you was just your overall criteria . The rom-com Just stop infecting Christmas movies with rom-coms . Okay , okay , they're different .
They haven't happened since the 90s .
Yeah , exactly , and for a reason If rom-coms were a good idea , they'd still be making them .
No , they are a good idea . We just need some of them back , yeah yeah , we need them back I'm sorry if you've seen trailers for movies lately .
It's like all fake things I know it's like not real people . I know it's all like green screen animated it's crazy , weird stuff .
I'm like can we get a decent movie out here , although we're gonna go see the bob dylan biopic ?
yeah , what's that ?
called hello . What's that one called ?
it's got chalamene yes , somebody unknown , something like that super unknown oh , super unknown . Yeah , that's not super unknown , but it a great is that a great unknown okay yeah super unknown or super unknown or something is like an old sound garden thing , but uh , we're gonna see that and we want to see , um , oh my gosh .
The other one about the uh , the guy that took tried try to take out Hitler . Oh , oh uh your houses at school . Uh , oh my gosh . No , bonhoeffer , bonhoeffer , yes .
Yes .
We want to see that one too .
Yes , we're just a little on the slow , yeah , sorry . Yes , we will get to this and , um , make sure again you sign up . If you're not signed up on the website or you're not signed up on our YouTube channel , that would be huge .
It is huge and some good news on that . I was just looking back because we usually look at it every January , and so from this time last January , we've over doubled what we did last year .
Nice .
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¶ Homegrown Terrorism and Lack of Transparency
We'll touch first off on , obviously , the terrorist attack in New Orleans , a massive , massive terrorist attack . You know , 14 people dead . It's just heartbreaking to see this story and how it shook out and what we've learned since this all went down on New Year's Day is the person who did this , samsa Dinjabar .
He was basically radicalized over the past couple of years . It looks like there's plenty of video out there of him . He's actually talking . He's a real estate agent . He was born in Houston but he rented a truck . He's a vet , right ? Yes , he was absolutely a vet .
And he rented a truck through Turo , put an ISIS flag on the back of it and then turned a corner and mowed down people on Bourbon Street Just devastating .
But what I think it did to people , this whole thing was it started to make people realize , wait a minute , we have thought for a while here , and this happens in this country and it happens in a lot of places where you go through 9-11 and everybody becomes hypervigilant for the better part of probably seven or eight years , right , you start to pay attention .
Things happen here and there , and then this seemed to wake people up , because I think it's a combination of two things . One , I think there's real concern that we don't know how many people are in the country that could threaten this country , which we'll get into that in just a second .
But not only that , also the fact that when you see something like this homegrown and then you worry about you know there could be terrorists here as well all of a sudden you start saying what else are we in for here ? What else could we be looking at here ?
And President Biden came out and talked about it , did not make a strong statement , so you start to worry about that .
Well , you know , yeah , obviously he didn't make a strong statement for multiple reasons . Number one he's just kind of bumbling when he gets out there anyway , in my opinion , at this point . Number two like he's saying he's going to be completely transparent with the information , I just think that falls flat right now .
I mean , we've had no transparency from this president for us on several issues , including his own health and his own stability . There's just lots of things that I think we have some broken trust going on . It will be interesting to see how does the new administration start handling these threats and really looking into , like , what are we doing with the FBI ?
What are we doing with CIA ? How are things going to be held at the border ? I mean , these are the things that are really going to matter . And , like you said , these homegrown terrorists , people who were actually born here and that are being brought along into this ISIS type movement and kind of this .
Well , ISIS was wiped out by Trump and it's back and it's going to need to be wiped out again , like that's a fact . I mean that's going to have to happen to some degree . The question , too , is do we ever get answers really on things ? That's the problem I have now .
If you look the broader scale here on what's happening , there are so many things now we just never get answers on . It just doesn't happen . So let me just give you an example . We still don't know COVID . We still don't know , right , we still don't know for sure . We think most educated people know it was a lab leak , right , but still don't know for sure .
Our government's never told us . We really don't know . Even going back to you know what happens with the drones , right ? You know the drones in New Jersey ? Did we ever get an answer ? No , the first Trump assassination attempt . Do we know anything about that person ?
We do not know a darn thing , right , right , so often now there is zero answer from anybody in the government saying here's what's happening . It's like they will not share with the people of this country what is really going on , and this is a trend that stretches back through multiple administrations . It has to stop .
We need answers to these things and we're not going to get them . And so now what's going to happen here is something horrendous going to happen to this country . And then we're going to say well , we should have seen that coming . We don't get answers to anything , so why would we think we're going to start getting answers to this ?
And that's what worries me is there is now a trend of the elites where the elites keep all the information from the people and again elites fall on all different sides of the aisle and they think that they can do this . We know better than you know and we need answers . And so you know this guy . We already know more about him than I think you know .
We thought we would , but it's , I still think you know . That's obviously a huge concern .
Well , you still I mean , I think , even early reports on this right , we were trying to follow the early reports when this first happened and just the amount of information . You know you have FBI people out there saying this is not . It has nothing to do with terrorism .
Initially , that was initially what they say and I'm thinking well , you have an ISIS flag that you can see very clearly in the video . How do you even remotely come out and just discount it right off the bat as somebody speaking on behalf of the federal government ? I think that was a misstep . I think it breaks trust again or it's not rebuilding trust .
I think the trust is already broken Right and they have a long ways to start to rebuild this . I think it's going to be really interesting to see who Trump , who ends up getting confirmed to take over these , some of these positions , and are they going to be , are they actually going to be more transparent ?
And is there going to be a news agency out there that actually starts calling people on their stuff , like that's going to be ? You know , is that going to happen ever ?
Well agreed , and we've talked about this a million times before . I think the lack of scrutiny on Biden ended up costing Biden dearly . Oh , right .
Because if he had been held to account like other presidents were , he never would have gotten this far down the road with a horrendous border policy that everybody is looking at now on both sides of the aisle saying we're in trouble .
Well , it was insane . It was a . It was a crazy plan that never made sense , but media didn't do a thing .
So again , if you're a normal president where people hammer you for policy , it doesn't matter what your policy . It's the media's job to hammer you . When they do not do that , you get to take bad policy and keep it going down the road till it reaches catastrophic proportions .
And because of that , that's why we are where we are , Beyond all the hell stuff with him and everything else on top of all of this .
You just bad ideas .
That has hurt their credibility beyond repair . So this is all going on , right . So this happens . And then we're watching on New Year's Day and all of a sudden you see a massive fire in front of the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas because a cyber truck has been detonated right in front of the hotel , Right ?
So all of a sudden everybody's like , oh boy , here we go Swarm attack .
Right .
Right , this is a swarm attack and it wasn't on the level of 9-11 . I don't think anybody thought that at the time . But it was one of those things where you're like , well , you know , you saw what happened in New York city on 9-11 and all of a sudden , what's going on in DC ? There's been some sort of crash near the Pentagon . Right , there's always .
You start to , you know , you wake up if you're of a certain age and know well , wait over time . The person driving this cyber truck who shot himself and then the truck detonated it was Matthew uh Livelsberger . He rented the cyber truck and drove from Colorado Springs to Vegas . Okay , right . So a couple of things about this .
Um number one he came through Albuquerque . Okay , he was actually in Albuquerque . Ella , go to clip five . He was actually in Albuquerque on New Year's Eve and I apparently Tesla turned over all the information about where he stopped . Yeah , so you can see those of you who have been .
Most everybody , probably listening to the sound of my voice is driven up to Denver and that he just took that route . He came right down through Trinidad , through Las Vegas , stopped in Albuquerque and then kept on going , went through Flag and then worked his way toward Las Vegas .
So he was here on New Year's Eve and , as we've gotten more information on him , a couple different things . First of all , elon Musk , I think , kind of stood up and said you know what ? This guy made a big mistake . He chose the wrong car .
Well , right , and you remember the initial reports were thinking , hey , this is a situation that's not good . Because they think , ok , he went with an Elon Musk car in front of a Trump tower , he must be anti , you know , these guys whatever .
But Elon , you know , clears this up pretty quickly just on the fact of the car itself in his tweet when he says the evil knuckleheads picked the wrong vehicle for a terrorist attack Cybertruck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upwards .
¶ Threat of Homegrown Terrorism Amplifies
Not even the glass doors of the lobby were broken .
Yeah , and so , as this all starts to come out now , I do think a couple of things happened here which were not good for Fox News . When all this started to go down , the terrorist attack happens and in New Orleans , and Fox News comes out with some stuff that ended up being erroneous and wrong , and so you've got to be super careful about this .
What they talked about was that the truck crossed over the border at Eagle Pass , a couple hours earlier , which was not true , right . So it was never true . And as soon as you heard the Turo stuff start to come out , you knew this car had not come over Eagle Pass .
You don't Turo a car and take it out of the country , right , and then go back into the country , or you know , or anything like that . So that was not good . So Fox News kind of wobbly footing at the beginning of this , but then they get their their footing back and they had . They had a security expert .
Talk about what happened here with the cyber truck and why this was exactly the wrong truck to use for this if you wanted to create damage , and thankfully it didn't create that much damage but I also would like you to pay attention to on that video , as you see that it looks like the exterior of that truck is completely intact as it sits there .
The fact that this was a cyber truck really limited the damage that occurred inside of the valet , because it had most of the blast go up through the truck and out . In fact , if you look on that video , you'll see that the front glass doors at the Trump Hotel were not even broken by that blast , which they were parked directly in front of .
You can see that in the video there .
Yeah , so so . Ok , so this all breaks down Now . We know about Livelsberger , and he was a decorated , decorated Army veteran .
He's Green Beret yeah .
I mean incredibly accomplished and effectively we know now . Coming out on Friday he said basically they found a note from him on his phone saying basically this was not a terrorist attack .
He said he basically was a suicide , that he trying to live with what he had gone through and the people he had lost and he just snapped it just seems odd to me , though , that that you commit suicide in such a way that you're you could do so much harm to other people at the same point , like , and you go to one of the most crowded cities and you set
off a bomb , basically in a car , you shoot yourself and still have a car bomb go off after the fact .
I agree with you .
It doesn't it does not add up .
No , there's not , and there's plenty in all of these things that don't add up .
But you're right , I don't know Right , but when you've done , and he's been on a bunch of tours and I can't pretend to know this , having never served and know what kind of torture he may have been going through or whatever , I don't know , but thankfully nobody was killed in what he did . Obviously he took his own life before the detonation .
But all this happens and all of a sudden we get to Wednesday evening , on New Year's Day , and you go to New York City and there are literally hundreds , if not thousands , of people that start marching to globalize the Antifata in New York , and this is a massive group of people and this is a huge concern , obviously .
I mean , I think you look at we've seen a lot of , you know a lot of these things develop and you start looking across Europe and you see that , look , we have issues in this country right now in the respect that we need to make sure that we are safe from people who would do us harm .
And make no mistake about what happens when you support people who support violence . It comes for everybody . And that's the part of this that's terrifying .
Well , I mean in these cars , running cars through barricades , running them through major issues , you know , intersections or places where people are standing around or whatever that's being done in Europe . So that's been proven over time that it's very chaotic , it causes lots of it's , it has instant impact , which is you know ?
look what happened in Germany . Right , I lost . What 80 people in Germany right At a Christmas market ?
I believe yes .
Horrendous Right and look , this is everywhere now . So we either stand up and take this seriously . This is what makes what happened over the past four years with our border policy and the fact that we're not protecting people of this country .
Again , I say it every single show , so I might as well say it again yeah , it doesn't matter what political party you're from . If you're not going to protect the people of this country , get out , get out of the way and let people who are serious about protecting Americans take that job .
And you know what will be interesting to see is , you know I'm hearing all this chatter kind of in shows I watch and things I listen to that you know a lot of the schools are saying , hey , if you've got a student visa and you're planning to come and study in America this year , get here before Trump gets inaugurated , because watch out , it could be .
You know , and I'm sitting there going what ? Like I'm sorry , if you're a student and you're on campus and you're anti-American , you're gone . Like I don't know why we would allow any . Like I don't get that . I'm like at this juncture I'm sorry , but it's like , get out . If you're anti-American , do not come here to study .
And if you find out about it , take that student visa away and remove them from the country . And I know there's a lot of universities that are still trying to protect people that do these protests , that are anti-American , that I have no problem burning the flag or talking , that you know .
I just think enough and I really hope this gets shut down under the new administration .
Well , in the part of the problem too , these are a lot of different shades of there's . There's your , your protester , who may say , oh , I'm not for any violence , and then all of a sudden , you've got all these different gradients of people that you don't know what's going on .
I mean that that's the that's the reality of the situation , and you mentioned that , that the truck rammings or car rammings , killing people , is very effective .
There's also another method that's incredibly effective that has not been deployed in this country yet , and there's a former CIA agent and her name is Sarah Adams , and she's talked about the fact that she thinks there's about a thousand Al Qaeda in the United States right now , and she thinks we're just hitting the beginning of this and it's going to get far , far
worse . So she was on Sean Ryan's podcast and talked to him . I want to play this for you and then just get your reaction to it .
Walk up to a building with a suicide vest on the United States . Americans don't understand this . Al-qaeda knows this right . So this is new and innovative , especially now . You don't have to walk upside of the building , you can walk in the building because of the advancement of the vest . The other thing is in the united states we haven't had fideian attackers .
So the concept is the terrorist fights to the death . So he's not exactly a suicide bomber , but he will fight till either all of us are dead or all of his people are dead . We think it's going to be a swarming attack , right , multiple different attacks at one time across multiple cities .
I think there will be suicide bombers , just because some of the attackers went through suicide bomber training and they have these vests . And then we think there's these Fideian attackers who will carry on until they're killed .
Just rephrase that so these guys are trained and they are going to fight until they're killed .
Yes , and that matters right . So I was watching this video and it was a suicide bombing in Kabul years ago . The bomber blew up and then everyone starts moving in , the first responders move in right , and then another guy walks in and blows up .
We know this is a tactic , but if Americans don't understand this is a tactic and don't understand these attackers are going to fight to the death . Think about that . Battle's going on . The attacker surrenders , he might have the suicide vest . You know we let our guard down . That man came to die , right , he's going to fight till he dies or you die .
So we can't let our guards down , and they know our weakness . So we have to be very careful that we don't have more people die in the second and third order effects of not knowing their intent .
Okay . So think about that for a second . What she's really saying here ? She's saying you have a suicide bomber all of a sudden , which is what our first responders do all the time they go running to trouble right . They go right into it and then they send another suicide bomber in and blow everybody up again .
It's terrifying when you look at this and you look at how vulnerable we are as a country and this is going to require our country to come together and say we will not allow this to destroy the fabric of this country .
And if you don't support this country , you don't support keeping people safe , then we , then we need to know who that is and we need to know what kind of situation we're up against , because there there is , there , there there's no , there's no gray area here . You either want to protect the people of this country or you don't .
And if you don't , then look out , because I think we owe everybody in this country safety and and this is something that we cannot afford to sit here and watch this unfold in a way where this turns into regular bombers and things like that . Now , could this be a one-off where it all goes away and the government has a good feel on who's doing this stuff ?
When they break up these rings , maybe , and when they break up these rings , often we never hear about it .
Right .
That does happen . So I hope that's true , but it's pretty scary given the numbers , and I think we have to be prepared to address what could be a huge issue .
Right , and then you added in just the other thing , the other issues that we just seem to be having . Like you know , I told you about this whole New York subway issues , which is not terrorism , it's just like Well it's mental health , mental health issues , yeah . But like we feel it's , like we can't even control that , Like we're that's what ?
no , we can't , we don't have that under control . That's very true . The mental health issues in this country you see it on the streets of Albuquerque every day every day massive mental health problems , and , and those have to be dealt with , there's no question . But , but this is something that to me , is a whole different animal too .
I mean , there's a bunch of these different things , right , there's no doubt .
I just think that you see these protests and you see like we got obviously we've talked about this now for over a year with a lot of the protests and things of that nature on the college campuses and you know , go pro Hamas and all those things . And we were like , are you crazy ? Like are you listening to this and do you know what they stand for ?
And I think when you have a time of real peace in your country , when you don't have a lot of war that your own family members are a part of things of that nature , you almost forget and take advantage of what freedom in America is actually all about .
And so the 9-11 attack , as terrible as it was and as awful as it was and we all lived , you know , you and I lived through it . We know exactly where we were that day .
We remember , you know , and it's interesting , it's like our younger generation , like our kids , have no idea because they weren't around and you know , we have good friends that just traveled to New York . Their kids went , went to the nine 11 museum and they had all these questions because they said you know why is this a bigger deal than Pearl Harbor ?
You know , why is this this ? Why is it that like they have no idea ?
I think we have forgotten , and sometimes we you know , not us , but I think in general as a society , we push some things down that our country have gone through , and those are the things that the reason that some of us get so worried and so upset when we start to see things bubbling up , we're like whoa , whoa , whoa , like we're not all racists here .
That's not the situation . The situation is safety matters in our country and we need to be very alert of all of these things . And now we have an open border and we have no idea really who's in here .
And I just think we have escaped to this point .
The fact that we have not had a devastating terror attack , even bigger than what we saw in New Orleans , is by the grace of God , and I hope that we have intelligence agencies who are all over this , but I fear that right now they're they're even looking at this and some of their testimony in front of Congress has indicated this that they don't even know the
scope of it , but they're terrified .
I mean , that's if you look behind the scenes and what some of the stuff that said some of it said in public session , some of it not I think there's real concern that they don't even know how big an issue this is and you go back , you go back to October 7th , and you see what happened there , how rudimentary it was , how , how basically it was not the
kind of attack that you know when you engage Israel and you do it in a way that is very rudimentary . It actually favored them in this particular case , meaning Hamas , and then Israel got their footing again , but my goodness , the price they paid .
Right and .
I don't want to see this country have to pay that price again , which is a nightmare . Okay , but we'll see , we'll see
¶ Political Trends in New Mexico
what happens here . A couple of things Speaker of the House .
Big vote today .
Big votes . Mike Johnson is back , baby . Yeah , here it is . Here's the vote . Let's just we'll take a quick listen in here . But one thing I want you to notice here See the vote . You can bring it back up else . You see the vote here 216 to 215 . And then eventually he's going to have enough votes . We keep playing it through no-transcript are .
The House of Representatives is going to be incredibly tight . It's going to be about a five vote margin roughly , once everything gets settled back in again with the new Congress . Look , there has to be some real cooperation from Republicans , I do think , hopefully some Democrats , I don't know . We'll see to get things done .
So you can't expect Mike Johnson to be a miracle worker when he has a tiny , tiny majority .
Yeah , I mean , if you got less than I think , you could only have one Republican vote against him to even get past .
In this particular one . Yes , now I do think you have a slightly more coming up in the in the uh once Congress , you know reconvenes and everything , but but still like , just don't deal with Johnson . Like he's got a 50 seat majority Right , he doesn't Okay . So there are important things that need to be done for the country . Cut the crap and do it Right .
Do what needs to be done .
Right , including our border , like I care so much .
Absolutely Tax policy . There's a bunch of things that need to be done and families need relief . Okay , because we're going to talk about the fact that the economy is hurting . Still , people are still hurting , there's no question . We're seeing some of those numbers that are showing that . So get the work done .
And Republicans need to make sure they realize that and I think , hopefully , they'll pull on some , some moderate Democrats that are in in Trump districts , basically that they'll be able to pull in with them , but I don't know if they will . Whatever , it doesn't matter . You don't need them . So do what you need to do to get this done .
Right Agreed , and I just read recently that you know , the scary part is is even like things , like the folks that have come across the border that have all these court cases you know supposedly on record and we'll see how many of these people show up in the next five , six , seven years that they're being pushed out .
We can't even hear all the cases because of this flood of people that have come in . It's going to take forever to even hear those cases . So it's going to be interesting to see what does the new administration do ? How are they going to handle all this ? You know , I know there's that push to get the actual criminals out .
Well , you're going to have to do a summary , you're going to have to offer up some of these judges . They have to be able to have summary judgment ability to be able to slide , you know , to move these cases along much more quickly than they do , but they currently don't have that . All right , is it possible ?
Is it possible that the state of New Mexico is becoming closer politically over the past few years ?
Well , if you look at our numbers , you'd say it's getting closer .
It is getting closer . So this is pretty interesting . Els , let's move in on these numbers and we'll show you here Basically what we've been seeing here since 2020 , or , excuse me , since , yeah , since 2020 , the numbers have been tightening a little bit . Back in 2020 , there were 425,000 Republicans and 611,000 Democrats in the state of New Mexico .
Okay , this year now there's 10,000 more Republicans , 435,000 Republicans and we're down to 590,000 Democrats . So Democrats shed 20,000 , 21,000 .
And we gained 20 .
Republicans gained 10,000 . Okay , that just shows you that we're starting to see things move a little bit . Now , the one thing that's most important here probably is the fact that the group that grew the most by far is the declined estates .
¶ Party Shift and Crime Concerns
These are people who say I'm not going either way with either one of these parties , but I'm surely not going to just stick where I was . For example , so in 2020 , there were 318,000 independents . Now there are 351,000 . So what you're starting to see here is a realignment here . It's getting closer . It's interesting to see this .
Yeah , it's going to be interesting to see if they stay in that category of independent Because , remember , we're in a state that if you're , if you're an independent , you can't vote in the primaries um , unless you go and reclassify it with one of the parties . Yeah , closed primary . Yeah .
So it's going to be interesting to see , like when we actually start getting some real interesting in elections again in the next you know year or two . Do the independents stay as high as they are and they just say I , I'm not going to vote in the primary , I'm going to stay out of the primaries and I'm only going to show up for the general elections ?
I don't know , it depends . Yeah , it depends .
I mean , that's if you're an active voter , and to me , the people that have taken the time to remove themselves from a party affiliation , they're an active voter .
I think you have to go to yourself or you've never been , but yeah , yeah , they've added it in , so it's definitely the fastest growing group . So yeah , it's gonna be interesting to see and there's no question they're drawing most from democrats , like there's . That's just no question .
Republicans are growing , independents are growing , democrats are more republicans , uh now , I think , than ever in our , in our lifetime and in other lifetimes , nationally , right it's a historic high for who says they're a republican right self-identifiers are are now slightly republican , which has not been the case in our lifetime , I'm sure it's
always been Democrats , but more so . It's interesting so , and I think part of that is that you see , part of what's happened in the parties , which is , I think , to the left . They've pushed off in a bunch of these issues that that they're . Now we have oppositional parties right now .
It's like I'm just gonna , I'm just gonna disagree with you because I'm not in your party , so I'm gonna take the other side . Oh , that's a bad idea on some of these issues where we should be agreeing on stuff .
So I think , if you see as far left as democrats have been and and they've run the kind of races that they've run recently , they have to come home eventually and get more realistic , and I don don't know if they will , and if they won't , they'll continue to lose . I think that's exactly what's going to go down All right . New York Times .
Yeah , new York Times Big headline that came out when we were on vacation actually came out on Christmas Day is kind of a thrashing on the New Mexico governor . It says a New Mexico Democratic governor wants to get tough on crime Headline not so hard , not so , not too bad bad .
But it goes into quite a little bit of detail in here on just how bad the crime is in our state and really what's leadership actually doing about it . So it says , you know , governor Michelle Lujan Grisham has clashed with her own party over how to tackle the nexus of addiction , mental illness and violence in New Mexico .
And it says , you know , even as crime declines rapidly across the United States and fatal overdoses decrease , the violent crime rate in New Mexico was twice the national average in 2023 , according to the Council of State Governments Justice Center , the state continues to struggle with the fallout from fentanyl and meth use , including among the homeless .
And then this other I pulled this other quote out of here because I thought that was interesting . More violent crime went unsolved in New Mexico in 2023 than any other state .
Also , according to this council , the state government's justice center , ms Lujan Grisham , is trying to strike a balance between a liberal and pragmatic approach , but she hasn't always succeeded .
Late last year , ms Lujan Grisham temporarily barred people from carrying weapons in certain public spaces in Albuquerque , drawing the ire not only of gun right groups but also the New Mexico attorney general , a fellow Democrat , who said he opposed that order .
So just kind of funny to me this quote , which is funny . Ms Lujan Grisham is trying to strike a balance between a liberal and pragmatic approach , meaning a liberal approach is not a pragmatic approach .
Oh , that's kind of funny , which is like okay , well , that's true . Well , you never know with New York Times , like how they're going to actually break this .
Well , no , it's as soft as you can be , which is it's not working . We've talked about this . It was the centerpiece of our campaign . That was out of control . It's just , crime is out of control . And it's gotten worse since then . Okay , she puts her foot in the ground .
Oh yeah , she's going to call a special session .
No , no , no , hold on she tries to put her foot in the ground . Right , she tries to put her foot in the ground . Okay , let's try to do something here , okay , and then what happens ?
Yeah , they say no . So basically she calls for a special session in the summer to consider her proposals and to address the crime . But Democratic lawmakers , who hold obviously the majority in the state house for the last 90 years , let me add that so they needed more time to consider her measures . The session lasted less than a day .
Yeah , that's called . They told her to pound sand , which is brutal , and look , it was a mistake on the . I think it's a mistake on the legislature's part . I really do .
I mean the fact that they wouldn't even listen to , I mean , or they were on vacation .
I have no idea why people just said no , but it is frustrating , because one of the things we said in the campaign was , had we won , we we would have let a single thing pass until we dealt with crime .
Not a thing , and that's what , and I think we would gotten support for that , and I think we'd gotten support around the state , where people said we've got to get this done , and I think we'd have brought along enough Democrats to pass it , and all the Republicans like that would .
And now what you've got , though , is you've got the far left going , you've got the Republicans will still pass it . Oh yeah , they're going to show up , but our own party won't let it happen in the legislature , which is horrendous .
Well , because , again , they're either completely out of touch with actually knowing what's causing the crime , or that there is crime , or I don't even know how they I don't know how you can sit up there and say no , we're not going to deal with this anymore . It's just mental behaviors and we need to keep things . It's too hard and blah , blah , blah .
We don't have the space you want to imprison everybody . We don't . We can't keep everybody in jail Like I don't know what the mental game is there . But I just think we better wise up and you better . I mean , we just went through a major election process . Republicans are still outnumbered .
We won what I think one or two seats , maybe something like that , and so we're still heavily outnumbered at conservatives up there . I just would love to see any Democrats are actually serious about protecting people in the state and not washing it . Just continue to get worse in crime
¶ Political Will and Crime Solutions
. Vote for these bills .
Right , and there are some . There are definitely some . I think there's seven or eight votes in there that with the Republicans you got . Is it enough yet ? No , we'll see . We'll see what happens with it .
But there is a model for this whole thing and and it is not a model that you and I say there's a model in the respect that the policies are not stuff you could , you could emulate here , because in this country we have constitutional protections that will not be suspended , okay , but but . But .
But what I mean by a model is that when you have leaders who decide we're going to fix a problem , it can be fixed .
It can be fixed .
So , if you go to the El Salvador issue right now , they went . They went in a different route than we could ever go in this country . But if you look at what's happened in El Salvador , with murders , ok , back in 2015 , el Salvador was one of the most , if not the most , dangerous country in the world .
For every 100000 people , there were one hundred and three murders on off the charts gang violence off the charts gang violence .
But then President Bukale is elected and he starts dealing with the issue and then eventually he says look , you're going to commit crime , we are throwing you in jail , massive supermax prisons and they are now the safest country in the Western Hemisphere .
I mean , that's just a new leader that just came in and said enough , I'm taking these gangs down , and I'm sure that there's been things that have been leading up to this not .
And there was and the things were going down to some degree , but not to this degree , yeah . And in fact , when he , when he got into office , things started to spike again and he said no , we're not going to do this .
Well , and I think the reason that when you read this to me , that , like a couple of mornings ago , I'm like , exactly Because leadership , for whatever reason , at least in our state , our leaders are not held accountable for the crime . They're not held accountable for the drugs that are coming across our border .
They're not held accountable for the homelessness that are wandering our streets and you know , our stores shutting down and buildings getting caught on fire , left on fire , and it blows my mind that our state leaders are not held accountable for this .
When you can look and find okay , you find leaders that are serious about taking on crime , serious about taking on homelessness issues and mental health concerns and all of the I mean and we have a fat state budget , by the way , not to mention that right .
And , instead of focusing on crime , we focus on things like abortion or whatever else else we're going to focus our attentions on , instead of really making people safe here . And I think this is a prime example of good leader coming in and I don't know the whole background of that , but obviously took the steps necessary to make their country safer .
Is the most popular leader in the world right now . Ninety one percent approval% approval , and I want to play a little soundbite . A BBC reporter questioned President Boukalé on what he's doing and inferring to him that his approach was too harsh , putting everybody that's committed these crimes in prison for good and everything that's happened .
This person from the BBC goes after him and this was a very instructive answer . It's about a minute and a half long .
Recipes from the European Union . We took the recipes from the United States . None of the recipes worked More bloodshed , more people were dying . So what do we do ? Okay , we do something and we save people , and now we're the safest country in the Western Hemisphere , but suddenly something's bad . Oh , but you shouldn't do that .
You should do what have the right to do , what we think is right and what the Salvadoran people are going to decide whether or not they want this day in free elections . But also , we've proven it works . And you haven't proven that your system works in our country . It might work in yours , I don't know , but it doesn't work in ours .
It's like I told one time a member of the European Union I know you Brexited that , but I told a member of the European Union you take your best government , choose your best government . I don't know what's the best government in Europe , but you choose your best government . Same people , same talent , same experts , same will to do things the right way .
You take your best government and you put them to govern Afghanistan and tell them okay , you govern Afghanistan the same way you govern this European country . You'll be dead in a week because you cannot govern Afghanistan like you govern Europe . So stop trying to make us use your recipes because they don't work . Here you have your own system .
We don't tell you that you shouldn't have a monarchy . I mean , we're fine with your monarchy , we love your monarchy , it's fine . But we don't say , oh , you shouldn't have a monarchy and you shouldn't have hereditary titles . Why ? Because it's your country , you can do whatever you want with it . But suddenly we have to do what you want to do with our country .
So so there you go .
Fascinating stuff , and I think what he says there is right , which is look , we're not advocate that approach that El Salvador is . You can't use it in America , right , but you can have the political will to stand up and solve these problems , and if you have that political will , it can absolutely be done .
But if you don't have the political will and you're more interested in cheap political shots or adversarial relationships just for political reasons , you're a clown and get out of the way . These problems are significant right now and they need to be dealt with , and I think that's the part of this and that's the example that we should take from this .
It's the political will to do something . Again , the exact solution depends on the country , right ?
You just can't you don't have the same solution or depends on our state . I mean , I guess I'm obviously very passionate about our particular state and the fact that it continues to grow unsafe and I'm thinking well , wake up .
Like you know , we and we all say it , like most of our listeners out there agree with the fact that they say we need to change how we're voting , we need to change our running . What's frightening is , if you actually look at uh numbers , we still a lot of our leaders are still very popular , you know , and it's like it's it kind of blows your mind .
You're thinking you're going to get the same results if you keep putting the same people in , because you're going to get the same results if you keep putting the same people in because they haven't shown an ability to change what's broken . And I think that's what's scary is that we have all these legislators in here .
We're going to see how this goes in January . Right , we're like a couple of weeks out from them starting . Are they going to get any crime bills really passed that are going to make impact ?
It's a great question At this point . I haven't seen evidence of that . Now they may well tackle some stuff on the periphery , some behavioral health stuff , which there's nothing wrong with that .
No , problem with that . That needs to happen as well , right .
But also , you know , get tough on crime . Give me a break . All right , a couple other things . The economy continues to struggle . We are looking at the highest credit card default rate since 2010 .
So when President Trump takes office here , get ready here , because there are some real challenges he's going to have to deal with here and Congress is going to have to deal with these things . A lot of families are still hurting here in high income earners from . This article from the Financial Times talks about the high income earners are not having issues .
Obviously , that that's not the problem . It says high income households are fine , but the bottom third of the consumers are tapped out . There is no room for error anymore . Right , anything has been spent out and people need help . So that's a huge issue .
And as you look at these default rates and you look at this graph , if you go back to 2010 , you can see that's where the highest numbers are , from the Great Recession basically , and you can see things kind of bumped along . We saw a little bit of a spike in , you know , 2020 and 2019 , but then they've really jumped up here recently .
So this is a huge , huge concern and in fact , you see other stuff , that sort of you know kind of bends into this a little bit . You look at some of the other little economic indicators and this kind of a weird indicator because the world has changed .
Yeah , but it is kind of like something that we deal with even here in our household is when you're trying to cut corners or cut things back a little bit and cut your spend a little bit . We've done this too . People here says Americans spent 23% less on streaming services in 2024 .
These streaming services , by the way , they're super fun and they provide so much entertainment , but their rates continue to climb .
We've talked about how now you pay more for all these streaming services than we ever paid for this , our fat cable bill that we thought was so high , one , you know one back of the day and so you have to at some point say , okay enough , I can't have all of these streaming apps and a cable program or anything else because it's too expensive .
And so it's these little things . It's the same argument .
¶ Teenagers and Substance Use Trends
About a year ago , we read a comment on the show . Some guy was kind of like having his day with me on Twitter saying , christy , you don't understand . Inflation's not that bad . People are still spending . I see people still at the baseball games and balloon fiesta and all these things and I'm like , how are their credit cards ?
Because that's where the rubber meets the road . After so long you can't pay your credit card off . That affects a lot more things than just your streaming services at the end of the day . So I think we're starting to see that trickle down effect and that inflation is actually the economy is actually hurting , and if we had just been honest about that .
You know again , leadership it matters . We want to tell . You know , just tell us the truth so we can deal with it and find the right solution .
Well , everybody knew the truth and that's why you got the election result you did . True , because of the economy . I mean , that's the reason . Yeah , you can point to a bunch of other stuff in the borders factor . There are some other things that are a factor . Right , single biggest thing is the economy .
Right , the other night about how things have changed for when we were kids , or when we were in high school , versus our kids in high school . One interesting number , and we talk all the time about teenagers and can they handle the responsibility of doing a job .
Are we really handing this world off to , or what are we handing this world off to for kids and what is their level of responsibility ? This is some interesting numbers that came out on alcohol use with teens .
Yes , as teen alcohol and drug use hits record low , but nicotine pouch use rises and I guess it's a pouch that people try to get off of smoking . I think is my understanding .
Yeah , could well be , but the alcohol number was amazing to me . Alcohol use among 12th graders , meaning seniors in high school , dropped from 75% in 1997 to 42% in 2024 . And marijuana use is at its lowest rate in 30 years . The increase in nicotine pouches obviously is concerning and they talk about that , but it's amazing to me .
Yeah , and they're saying that this kind of started during COVID , during the pandemic . Kids didn't have access , they weren't as social no , but it's a much longer trend . Well , and they expected it to go back up and it hasn't . So what's interesting is those numbers continue to decline and you wonder like are parents just having more impact on kids ?
Are they saying you know , are you spending more time as a family unit together ? Is there like , what is the rhythm behind ?
you know Ella's shaking her head . So what is ?
the issue yeah .
So the question is why ? Why is this the case ? So , Ella , I need a , I need some answers here as a teenager .
Let's give us the teenager perspective .
I uh what , uh , on , what on . Why do you think are you involved in the show here ?
I'm paying attention , I'm just asking , like what I'm supposed to be well , why do you suppose that is ?
why do you think alcohol and marijuana use is down among teenagers um and like a a big scale ?
uh , because I ? I personally think it's because people don't find it as appealing anymore because they've seen just the backlash on it . I would say it has nothing to do with your parents , it's just not it it's not a pure we're going to take credit If your parents tell you not to drink , you'll be like okay , and then you can go do whatever you want .
But I think that I'm sorry , I don't want to do that .
I'm just saying that .
I think that , like you can see the impact that it does on other people and you don't want to fall into that , but I would say that safer , because they're doing things like concentrated nicotine , which is really damaging and it's like it's worse for you , but I would say , like alcohol and all that and stuff like that , that's not from your parents , that's just .
It's also just not as big of a peer pressure thing anymore . It just isn't .
So you don't see it as much as like when we were when I was in high school , it was . It was a big part of high school
¶ Trends in Alcohol and Vaping
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I would say vaping is a bigger part than drinking or smoking weed , which vaping can be terrible for you too .
Well , and what's interesting ? Is I'm curious if they're classifying vaping in this because marijuana is in the vape and sells nicotine . Well , it's not , it's nicotine , it's just nicotine . No , you can absolutely vape marijuana , well you probably can , but that's not okay .
Yeah , you can Right .
You wouldn't .
Yeah , you wouldn't . Yeah , I mean .
I mean you could you're the minute ?
Yeah , but that's not what we're really talking about here . That's a separate , that's marijuana use , like that . That would fall .
It says it's down . That's what I'm saying . Like it's saying it is down , yeah . And it's like you could vape a weed pen but it's it's still pretty active in that , in that area . I just think I wonder what the what is it that's inspiring ?
Well , maybe it's education too . And you do see , and you see what the , what the impacts of alcohol are Right . I mean and they're significant .
And they did . I mean , maybe they've just in the big broad approach of like taking smoking out of movies , taking things , you know , to a different level over time , maybe it is actually having the impact that we kind of all hoped it was .
You know , I also added this study also came out with and we don't have it in here , so I won't go into major detail , but just they're really discussing do they start adding the fact that drinking alcohol , even minor a drink a day , or less than two drinks a day or whatever they were saying is still leading to some cancers ?
And in women , you know , it's upticking some specific cancers with related to alcohol use . And the question now is are we going to start labeling that on alcohol ? Are we going to start educating the public ?
It's stuff I had never heard of , you know , and I'm not a big drinker , so you know , but I still they're saying minor drinking can still lead to some cancers and it's interesting to see . Will we be starting to put those labels and that education out to the public or will that not happen ?
I don't know , and it's . I'm always dubious of the label because it's like is anyone really going to pay attention to the label ?
I don't know , but maybe that's part of what's happened .
Maybe it does work . I don't know .
I mean , you tell people enough that nicotine causes cancer .
I mean Well no , because it does . I mean , well , nicotine does it , but smoking does , and so , yeah , I mean yeah , I mean clearly there was a clear link there and that's why the smoking rates have been , you know , obviously going down . For decades . All right , so a couple of things . Tell us where are we going to stay ?
Off the roadside , well , no , I mean , it's just , drinking is going down , except for if you're in Gallatin County , montana .
They are the drunkest county in America .
Yes , it is the drunkest county in America . The thing here is pretty interesting actually . It says the CDC defines heavy drinking as consuming eight or more drinks for women or 15 or more drinks for men during a week . During a week , according to CDC data , 26.8% of Gallatin County residents are heavy drinkers .
Compared to , say , utah , where 9% of people drink to a higher level . Teton County comes in on the high end of Wyoming , 23.1 . That's again a lot of these are counties that are in sort of Gallatin County in Montana and Teton County and Wyoming Definitely resort counties .
Resort and also is it like college towns ? Well yeah , university of Wyoming , and I'm sorry they're really comparing it to Utah where , like alcohol sales , it's really hard to even get alcohol in Utah .
So that's a little Well . University of Wyoming , their county in the Laramie area , which is actually Albany County , 22.3% .
That's because there's nothing to do in Laramie . Sorry yeah , laramie's tough . Watch the wind , just watch the wind .
Just get blown to smithereens . Just get blown . Yeah , it's unreal .
Well , and you wonder like is it just because there's ski country up there ? Yeah , it's vacation , it's all vacation right right , yeah , but , but , but I assume they're dealing with full-time residents here and not people that are there , I don't know , just freezing up there and you have nothing to do but no , that's true , those are long
¶ Breaking Bad House for Sale
winters .
Put some beers back , I guess you knock back 12 a week , or whatever .
it is 15 , 15 , 15 drinks a week If you , if you're somebody who drinks three beers six days a week or less than that it's 18 beers . You know I mean . I'm not justifying that , I'm just saying that like it's not that many beers to get to the highest drunkest , get it in the in the country .
I mean .
I'm not just , I'm not saying having 15 , to 18 beers a week isn't heavy drinking .
Listen if you want to take care of your liver , I probably would step off that .
I don't drink beer , but I'm just saying yeah , I mean , you're basically , you're advocating , but if you have two , drinks a night for five nights a week . It's 10 . It's not enough .
You're not the drunkest county if you only have 10 drinks .
Yeah , no , you're not even close .
Women are only having eight drinks a week .
Well , that's , women .
Well , they still top the drunkest county with eight drinks a week . Yeah , okay , with eight drinks a week .
Yeah , okay , but many have 15 . I mean , you gotta be I just think .
I think 15 , and maybe I'm just thinking of college days . Maybe that's what I'm thinking of , If this is a college town , I don't know , I'm not justifying it , believe me , sounds a little bit like you're justifying it ? Oh , I think beer is , but still , that's just me .
Okay , I wanted to show this . By the way , for those of you who have ever been from Ouray to Durango . There are a lot of passes that are along the way , and the most hair-raising is , no question , red Mountain .
The Million Dollar Highway .
Yep , and so this was interesting . This was an Instagram video that was out , and just look over the side there .
Yeah , there's no guardrail . There is no guardrail , and I've been on this road a lot and it's terrifying .
It is especially in the winter . Even during the summer it's terrifying , but in the winter just look at that snow-packed road and then just nothing right . So the reason they do this when they plow it , they just push the snow down the hill .
It's gone , but it's just , I mean terrifying . When we lived in grant junction and I would do the news down there , like you had to read the road closures in the winter and I swear you know this million dollar highway was closed more often than it was open , at least back in the day .
Well , yeah , and it's still , it's still a pretty I mean , that's the one that's pretty dangerous because even if you get into Silverton and then you go back up Silverton toward Durango and you head down , you go through Mollis Pass , which is a beautiful pass .
It is , but it's still , Mollis is gorgeous .
So there's Silverton you're looking at and then you're going up Mollis . Pass Now Mollis in the summer is awesome because there's a couple of lakes up there .
You can go do some hiking .
It's really really cool , but you don't have the drop off Exactly , and then you go down from Mollis and then you get coal bank , which is even closer to like purgatory . For those of you who've been to purgatory , coal bank is right outside of purgatory . So this was just kind of a cool trip they took .
But you know , if you're ever in the game to go on a road where you're , you're like let's just see how Red Mountain is .
I can't Unbelievable . I always find it terrifying , even in the summer . I mean we did it this summer and I recorded it .
This summer .
Yeah , we did do it this summer , and I just recorded it and I sped it up and I put it on my Instagram and people were like getting sick just from my Instagram , because it was like it's crazy , yeah , but it's beautiful .
Okay , we always talk about famous houses . Yeah , this is the last , last story .
Okay , okay , last story . Sorry , yeah , go for it . Last story we haven't been on in 12 days people definitely are getting their money's worth today , all the money they're getting something yeah okay . So the breaking bad house , okay , because , uh , that's what we're kind of , I guess , known for here in albuquerque .
Still , it's up for sale everybody and , uh , I guess the same families live there since 1973 , according to the story on kob that's where we pulled the story from yeah , and it's basically worth about $350,000, . According to Zillow Right , this family is going to ask $4 million $4 million . So the idea is now .
yeah , Danielle Tedesco did this story , Actually did a really good story on . Channel 4 . It was great . If you get a chance to go see it . Go to kobecom and check it out .
It's actually really good , um , but what's interesting is that they kind of want it to be sort of a museum of sorts . Well , she's suggesting , I guess , the amount of people that still show up every day to take a picture in front of this house throw a pizza at it . Knock on the door . She said this is the daughter of the original owner .
And she said we've had people that have show up with luggage thinking they've booked like it is a VRBO , they got scammed and they're paying a ton of money to come and swim in the outdoor pool . What's interesting about this house , too they never use the interiors of the home other than to store crew stuff , and so they never filmed inside the house .
They used a different space for that .
Oh , interesting .
And so they only use the exteriors of this home and the pool in the house . I used a different space for that , and so they only use the exteriors of this home and the pool in the back .
Okay , so that's what became famous about this particular home , but they've had to put fencing up to kind of protect the couple as they got older , cause it just the doorbell was ringing all the time People chucking pizzas on their roof , chucking pizzas on the roof Like this . So there's the famous scene right here .
Apparently they had like a stacks of pizza um for him to practice right there on the road . He did it in one take it like caught . The pizza comes flying out of that box . He didn't really plan that part of it apparently , but that pizza definitely just um stuck on the roof .
And then this is the famous , I guess , pool scene , uh , where she walks into the pool . We've never watched breaking bad , so we can't even speak to this . We know We've tried to watch it . It's just it feels really dark to us and I guess , as parents .
Yeah , I've never been able to do it .
As former news people , I'm like I can't . I know that makes me such a wimp , probably .
Well , it's just man $4 million . It'll be interesting to see if they get any interest at all .
Well , those famous homes , like the Brady Bunch house , sold pretty high .
I mean , given it's in LA , but if you live next to this house , are you not like , hey look , let's just stop this .
Yeah , you want a normal , but you can't unless you change the exterior of the home . I mean , and you wouldn't do that because you want the value of the house to stay right .
No , you would , absolutely . I would change it in a heartbeat .
Oh , if you buy it and you don't want anybody to come see you .
So the question is does this thing sell for more than market value ?
It will sell higher than market value . I do not think it's going to sell for $4 million . I think that's a pipe dream . That's my guess .
Okay , so what's your number ?
I'm going to put it like a little less than a million .
A little less than a million Wow .
Ella wants to jump in . Oh , Ella's coming in on this hot Hi . Hi , I think that Breaking Bad is like New Mexico's biggest thing . Right so . I 100% believe that it'll sell for at least two .
Oh , you're going $2 million . No way it's so popular .
It's like- . So you think , somebody out of state's going to come buy . This is what it's going to be . That's what I think .
It's going to be something that's not going to realize . Super fan that has $2 million to spend on a ranch .
People are crazy . I also think they're going to realize that it was a mistake , because everybody's going to come outside your house .
Well , so you're going to turn it in . So what do you do ?
then you try to monetize it by turning it into an Airbnb . Okay , let's go back a little bit . That's what I would do .
You would make so look like whatever that is on the inside , I have no idea .
but whatever it is , you've got to recreate that Okay , but think about it Whatever money you spend , you're spending more to redo the inside of the house .
Okay , without question you would make so much money and then you've got to sell the paraphernalia . You got to be able to get some licensing rights to sell some something in there or buy some stuff from auctions of Breaking Bad . Get Bryan Cranston on the phone , have him record something for you and put that up in there right .
I mean , this is the things you'd have to do .
I don't think you could get and if you , are somebody that has connections in the studio world and can actually do this , maybe you can put something together that can generate some income make a . Vrbo or a slash museum VRBO . Think about the other house that's like downtown that they use for stranger things .
You can rent that as a VRBO and it's expensive and it's expensive .
That's fine , but it doesn't . Thousand bucks a night I get it .
I get it , but I understand that . But remember when you're talking about these kind of numbers . Just give you an idea , if you were to buy that house for $2 million okay your payment on that house , if you put 20% down , is probably in excess of 11 grand a month .
Well , yeah , but you think about it if you're renting it for 1500 bucks a night ?
Yeah , Okay and look , maybe the numbers work you know , but we're not buying it . But even if you did , 2 million but if you did 4 million like you're literally looking at a , a a monthly payment of 30 plus thousand dollars .
So I think it's going to be somebody that already has the money and is just a fan Like . I think somebody's going to pay cash for this house , I agree and then look for a way to turn a profit on it . That's , I mean , I think that's exactly who is going to buy this house ?
That's my guess . We're going to watch it , then we're going to see yeah , we'll report back . No-transcript , where do we go from here ? He's an interesting guy . He's been a federal prosecutor for a long time and he's been in the middle of this world .
So we're just keep giving him that wheel everybody . Okay , Thanks so much . Enjoy the rest of your week and we'll see you back here on Monday .
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