¶ Introducing Family Graduation Weekend
All right , welcome to the no Doubt About it podcast . A lot going on , a lot of crazy stuff .
Including in our family .
It's graduation weekend , it is grad weekend .
And for those parents out there that have had a graduation weekend , they know how absolutely crazy land it is , because there's all these events that happen around a graduation .
And we're like well , we got to do a show and so we're just I'm not going to lie , we just chucked this sucker together and I sat there in front of my computer for a solid three hours just staring into the abyss , learning about all sorts of issues . Some are in this show and some are not .
Yeah , about all sorts of issues . Some are in this show and some are not . Yeah , I think , you got to get rabbit hole-y though . So sometimes you're like you're like , oh , wait a minute . So there's a wait , there's a new truck out .
I should probably research that track . Oh wait , wolves . Wolves are in danger . We'll have more on that and we're going to show more of those videos Not today but man I am red hot on my wildlife videos .
Oh .
I'm aware .
The only thing I don't have captured on game cameras . Up in angel fire . We got elk , we've got deer , we've got pine . What is it A pine .
Oh yeah , that guy . That , oh yeah that guy . Our writers wrote it , Our viewers wrote it and they identified what that little critter was .
Yeah , it was like a pine marmot or something like that . It's not a marmot . Yeah , it's something else .
It's a pine , oh gosh .
I can't believe . You just asked me that right now .
I know , sorry about that . Well , you can think about it .
We've got a skunk , we've got I don't want a mountain lion or a um or a Bobcat . I don't have either one of those .
None of the big cats have come through yet . I'm good with no cats We'll see what happens .
I mean , I would like to see the cats , but I got this thing on a trail where I think they're going to be some , some Bobcats . I could see a Bobcat or two through there .
Do you want me to go up there ?
Oh , turkeys .
Do you actually want me to go up to the property and be part of this ? Well , OK , because if you don't , you should keep capturing like scary animals on film and show it to me and then I'll be like terrified and I won't be there anymore .
They are passing through , they're doing their own thing .
Yeah , so OK .
So on this show , a couple of quick things . We're going to hit here on a fairly abbreviated version , but we are going to talk about the budget deal
¶ Budget Deal Battle Among Republicans
. Going through is a major problem for Republicans . There is some serious fighting going on on that front . We're going to talk about that . Of course , the Comey situation as well .
He goes walking on the beach and then stumbles into a threatening message about President Trump and feels the need to retweet it , basically , and he's gotten himself into a little bit of a mess with that . And also we're going to talk a little bit about some of the Biden situation . The big Biden book coming out this next week .
That thing's going to blow up and it is blowing up right now and it's turning out to be I mean , we knew this at the time . We've known this for months and really years , that this is the biggest political controversy in our lifetimes . There's no question that . Just seeing now everything that's happening now , the Robert her audio has come out .
What did it sound like when her was questioning him ? And her was not adversarially questioning him . It was not her beating up on Biden by any stretch of the situation . So we'll listen to a little bit of that . It's sad ? Honestly , it's not .
You don't listen to it and think , uh , you know , know , you don't really get infuriated listening to it , other than to be infuriated with the people around biden , and not so much biden himself , because once you listen to him you just see he's just , he's just lost , yeah and some of the question is like did ?
do we ? Should we be giving all this more light , you know , given the fact that now I feel like this is all a pr push by the media to be like , hey , listen , we were not culpable here . We did not really know what was going on and we were fooled , just like everybody else , which is complete bogus .
I mean , everybody that could see with their own eyes knew this is a cover-up . So now for them to get all this limelight coming back out and saying like , oh , we had no idea , now we're just going to sell books off of it and all this , I just feel like I don't know . I kind of feel like now you're going to make a dime off of this .
Well , no , no , make no mistake . I think that they're equal issues right now , which is one is is just the the cognitive issues that were , that were covered up by the media , by Biden staff , everybody . That's one issue .
And then the other issue is the gall and the guts of Tapper to come out and and Alex Thompson less so , because he was more aggressive in his reporting . He was Jake Tapper was not . Jake Tapper did everything he could to help cover this up as well and then him financially benefiting . That's going to be kind of a co-equal story as this thing goes through .
And so they're going to sell a lot of copies of this thing because they got it out . But you know , the reality of the situation is look how quickly it came out after the Biden administration . I mean like that right .
I mean when you talk about major books , about scandals in the white house Woodward and Bernstein this stuff takes months , years to research and get the information , not these guys . They got it out in like 20 minutes because everybody's like , oh yeah , by the way , here it is , we all knew it Right and so they handed out .
So we'll go through all that stuff , it's okay . And so then I ask then so you think it's like a PR spin for media , Like they got together and like , hey , we got to kind of fix this and talk about like now we got to be more transparent to bring our viewers back .
No , I don't think there's any of that . I don't think there's any reckoning of that kind . That's happened Wow .
Okay , I don kind of the spin where they're saying now we need to tell people . Hey , by the way , we actually did know this was going on and take a little bit of responsibility .
No , no , no , no , absolutely not , absolutely not . That's not happening . And and uh , you know , and then you have guys like chuck todd who go out there and just are indignant , and they , they go out and throw blame everywhere . Chuck schumer , they're throwing blame at nancy pelosi .
It's like , yeah , okay , but unless you are just not in touch with reality , you knew , knew all this , you knew it , so stop it , but anyway . So we'll go through all that .
Okay , all right .
You got a big event coming up here Anybody ? Wants to see you get a little spicy maybe out there .
Let's not promote it , as I'm going to get spicy .
I think you're going to get spicy .
No , I'm not planning to get spicy . I'm planning to be respectful and polite and discuss some issues . The National Association of Women Business Owners has invited me to be NABO , yes , nabo , look at you . I was like you know yeah , okay , well , it says NABO at the top of the thing .
I love that you're like , yeah , hello , that's what I know , the acronym for yeah , there , it is NABO .
Okay , so that just is , gets their , you know , gets their clutches on you , you're not getting away .
You're not getting well , okay . So they're doing a panel on this Thursday , may 22nd . It's 11 am . It's at the North Domingo Baca Multigenerational Center .
Basically , they're going to talk and Nicole DePiason's on there with me , harold Pope , who's with the Democratic Party , he's also a New Mexico state senator Cool , and , I believe , jen I can't say her last name she is , I think , a business coach , so to speak .
So they've invited us to come down and talk with people , mainly small business owners or women business owners , about kind of what's going on as far as crime , as far as the tariffs , as far as taxes I don't , you know , they're fans of the show , they watch the show . So they've invited us to , kind of because we've talked a lot about the tariffs .
Right .
And talked a little bit about . You know what's happening . We're , you know , obviously we're pretty opinionated about the crime situation that's happening in Albuquerque , so it'll be interesting . I think they're going to ask a lot of state legislative questions that Nicole , I'm sure , and Harold will be able to respond to those .
So it'll be interesting to see what's happening . But again , that's on Thursday . You can go to their website if you would like to register to go . It's a luncheon , I believe .
Visit nalbocom ? I'm just asking . Do we ? Know , I don't know , I can't believe . You just said that .
Well , you said what's their website Is the website on here . Okay , now you're going to have to make a cut .
No , we're not . We're not going to make a yeah , you are no a cut because , no , we're not we're not gonna make it .
No , it's not because it's . There's just a link and I sent it to you and now it's on me to find it again . You're welcome , everybody .
This is us in real time uh , we're not making a cut , we're going straight through on this episode straight through everybody , so how about we do this ? There is a register here link okay , you want me to put it in the notes I would love if
¶ Populism vs. Fiscal Conservatism Divide
you would put that in the notes I will do . Do that , okay , yes , absolutely .
And the organizers . Ms Tracy , don't yell at me about this . This is his fault . This is this guy's fault over here , tracy , let's go with nabocom .
You got to do it .
No , it's not , it's a registration thing .
So I'm going to send you this link . Okay , we'll have it . In the state legislators and I know Nicole understands this . She's our representative and she's a business owner she very much understands that we make doing business impossible .
Great example of that is what we talked about a few weeks ago , and it's the heat restriction that they're talking about passing through the environmental board which is not the legislature .
However , it is just a great example of a bunch of walls that continue to be put up , and Mr Pope I'm sure will be ready and Senator Pope will surely be ready to answer all the questions on why it is so difficult to do business in the state , given that they've been in charge of the legislature in the state of New Mexico for the better part of 80 years .
And when you look at doing business here versus states around us , it's not close , senator Pope . So let's fix this Good opportunity for some bipartisanship .
Am I right ? Or am I right , Maybe , Tracy ? Maybe you should have asked Mark to show up .
That's all I'm going to say . No , that's not what you need me to do , I think it's spicy , but I'm not planning to be like an overly . Well , let's wait and see .
You always say that poking the bear . All of a sudden you're just going to town . Oh , please give me a break . We're there to have discussions with women business owners , Mark , so you just keep a lid on it . All right , buddy ?
That's why I'm not going , because you're a woman business owner and I am not . I'm a male business owner . So , all right , let's go ahead and show you what's going on . Let's start with this .
I used to be a huge week for Republicans to try to pass a bill , a budget bill , through the House and the Senate , and this is going to be difficult and I want to get into the reasons why . Because you have a Republican party . We always talk about oh you know , what have the Democrats done ? Where are they on all this ?
And we talk about here's where Republicans are the working class party . But that transition comes with problems , and I think the Republicans have a big one right now and it is two different sides of the party . So let's start with this . This is an article out of politico . It says house republicans need their closer . Good thing he's back . That's trump .
Who's come back from the middle east . After lighting it up in the middle east , it seemed he loved that . I bet you , I bet you'd extend that trip another week or so just go all around the rest of the middle east and be like let me go go to Jordan and see what I can do . But he had a pretty good trip . But listen to this .
It says Friday's budget panel . So this is something obviously Trump's overseas . And then Chip Roy , who's a congressman from Texas , who's part of the budget committee , who's very much somebody who's a realist about the deficit and realizing and we've talked about it on this show too that you have to address it Like we're $37 dollars in debt .
We cannot continue to do this . We're killing our future . Right , and he fully understands that . So Friday's budget panel implosion was , in some ways , months in the making . As I wrote in January , rep Chip Roy and fellow fiscal hawks have been on a collision course with the president , who cares more about notching wins than curbing deficits .
Now again , this is from Politico , so they're taking a shot at Trump there . While hardliners view the mega bill as a once in a lifetime opportunity to reduce spending , trump sees it as a vehicle to deliver on his campaign promises , including tax cuts and money for the Pentagon and immigration enforcement ahead of the midterm cycle .
He's increasingly obsessed with meaning . Trump really does care about the midterms . He does not want to lose the House , and he surely doesn't want to lose the Senate . I don't think he'll lose the Senate , but he could very well lose the House , right ?
If this doesn't go well , trump should be worried that Roy and company are making demands that will be hard to meet and hard to walk back . Roy said Friday that the bill falls profoundly short and does not do what we say it does with respect to the deficit . Okay , so I want to play a little bit of chip Roy .
We're going to cut him off at a certain point because he kind of turns away and goes to some charts and things like that .
But the point he's making is a fair one , which is and this happens all the time in Washington DC you talk about the need for reducing spending , and so what they do is they don't reduce spending in the first four years of the budget plan right , they leave it or they expand . Or they expand it , actually Right .
And then they leave those cuts for five years down the road , right . And when do those ? Do those cuts ever happen ? No , those cuts don't ever happen . That's how we're $37 trillion in debt . That's why this is a bipartisan problem that both parties have absolutely fed into , and Republicans shouldn't get off the hook for that .
Okay , so listen to Chip Roy and some of the stuff he says here Again . We'll probably go on for about a minute , but he makes some really interesting points here .
My colleagues go again telling things that are not true . The vast majority of Americans will get tax benefits under this bill . It's just simply false to say that . That's not true . Hardworking Americans who will benefit from the standard deduction increase . Hardworking Americans that will benefit from child tax credits and lower tax rates .
Stop saying things that aren't true . Those things are true . The fact is , we have money in here for border to undo the damage of Joe Biden . We have more money in here for the defense to undo the damage of Joe Biden . But we also address Medicaid , and Medicaid spending goes up . Stop lying . Medicaid spending goes up .
My colleagues on the other side of the aisle are profoundly unserious when it comes to being real about what's happening with the numbers . I applaud Chairman Arrington . I applaud my colleagues on this side of the aisle for taking a step forward in dealing with the spending problem in this town . But I have to now admonish my colleagues on this side of the aisle .
This bill falls profoundly short . It does not do what we say it does with respect to deficits . The fact of the matter is on the spending . What we're dealing with here , on tax cuts and spending , a massive front-loaded deficit increase . That's the truth . That's the truth .
Deficits will go up in the first half of the 10-year budget window and we all know it's true and we shouldn't do that . We shouldn't say that we're doing something we're not doing .
The fact of the matter is this bill has backloaded savings and has frontloaded spending Nowhere near the Senate budget top line , by the way , the Senate budget top line of $6.5 trillion , which , by the way , the Senate budget top line of six and a half trillion dollars , which , by the way , is what we were pre-COVID inflation , adjusted on interest , on Medicaid , on
Medicare and Social Security . And if we would reform Medicaid , we could actually get to the core of the problem .
Ok , OK , so let's just get to what he's saying in a broader sense . Reforming Medicaid . That's a longer discussion which does have to happen with bipartisan support . There's no way one party is going to force a Medicaid adjustment and to make Medicaid more efficient and to make it work OK .
But this is something we're talking about with Doge , where it was like well , they got to try to get savings in certain ways without cutting people's benefits is what they're trying to do . But what he's really talking about here is he's talking about the fact that early on in this bill , you're going to spend more and you're going to run higher deficits .
So what that does is it gives everybody . It basically keeps all Trump's promises no tax on tips , no tax on overtime , right . All that stuff can make the Trump tax cuts permanent , which benefited everybody , by the way . Don't kid yourself 82% of Americans got a tax cut from Trump's tax cut bill in 2017 .
Right . So when they say it's only the rich , the super rich , it's a total lie .
There's never been a tax cut . I think that was really more beneficial to the middle and lower income Americans than the Trump tax cuts were . They were tremendously helpful .
So anybody who tells you that they're not and you know someone who's not a serious person when they tell you that , when they say , oh , this is just for the rich , that that is a reflexive , weak , a small minded argument of somebody who's never looked at the numbers .
So so anybody who says that , put them away off to the side and say you're not a serious person , move on , okay . So so that's part of it is is keeping those tax cuts permanent .
And again , what the problem is , though and this is what happens in DC , and Roy is right about this what happens in DC is you get all the promises up front and then , on the backside , when you're going to cut and cut and do a do a better job of of , you know , keeping an eye on the budget , they never do it . They never do it .
These are two or three year cycles , and they never do it , and so , therefore , that's why we're in the position we're in . So there you have the Chip Roy's of the world . Ok , but what you're going to notice is . I'm going to have you listen to Josh Hawley next , who's a senator from Missouri , and Josh is more of a kind of a little more of a populist .
Ok , and this is showing you kind of some of the fractures in the Trump movement , because you got the Chip Roy's of the world who support Trump and they support each other , there's no doubt . But Roy is right , we do have to get the budget under control and we do have to handle this better .
Well , josh Hawley is going to say something here that shows you that there's a real fracture , and the reason why is he's going to talk about Medicaid cuts . He's going to use the word Medicaid cuts when Chip Roy's like we're not cutting Medicaid , we're cutting the rate of increase , right , but these two guys are not on the same page .
So just listen to what Hawley says here .
It's insane . Listen , I've got concerns with the bill that the House has passed out of committee . They obviously haven't passed the full thing yet . I think there's still a lot of cuts in there to Medicaid . That will really hurt people and , to be more specific about it , they will hurt our people .
And listen , I mean in my state we voted for Trump by 18 , 19 points in the state of Missouri , but 21% of Missourians are on Medicaid , steve , and that includes hundreds of thousands of children . These are Trump voters . These are working class people . These are people who have gotten screwed by globalism , by free trade , by everything Donald Trump ran against .
And I'm not going to be a Republican who goes to them and says , hey , thank you for voting for us and trusting us , and now we're going to take away your health care . What could be more stupid than that ? That's insane . That's why Trump is out there saying no benefit cuts . Republicans in Congress ought to listen to the president .
OK , interesting point . Ok , so they have to get on the same page . They have to be able to find something in some middle ground here . Where , where , where you satisfy the chip boys of the world who say you can't keep escalating you know spending like this and the Hollies of the world . Who is who ?
I agree with Josh on that point as well which is this is your party , now , this is . These are the people you keep your promises . And if you don't keep your promises , then you're worthless . You're just like every other shyster politician who goes to DC , right ? Nobody wants that .
Right , everybody's burnt out on that . I think the question , though , is what Trump has said and what Doge has promised right Is that the cuts that they're doing are for the waste and the fraud , so the people that were collecting on Medicaid or Medicare when they weren't actually needing it , right . So that , to me , is still a cut that needs to happen .
My question is is you know that just maybe is not enough , and that's what you hear . Roy is saying hey , the fraudulent cuts won't be enough to get our budget in place and so , therefore , we have to do deeper cuts .
I mean , I think there's some of that , that they're not going to get all the way to where they need to get to with waste , fraud and abuse Right , and they're also also on the other side , they're framing waste fraud and abuse as a cut Right , I mean so .
So that's part of it too , that some of this is going to be messaging and then some of it is going to be . Well , even the Republicans you saw it right there you have two Republicans right there and you have messaging that is very much crossways with each other . That's a real problem .
And so , and Holly going out there saying , hey , you can't cut Medicaid , using that term , he used it .
But Roy wasn't saying to cut Medicaid .
He wasn't .
You're right , you're right so that's kind of the weird , like okay , so I'm saying there's , but there is .
So in other words , they have to come , you know , come to some sort of agreement on what they're going to use for verbiage and how far they're going to go . But for the most part , you're right . They're not going to be able to cut Medicaid and you're going to have to sit down eventually .
A bipartisan group of legislators who are serious are going to have to sit down and hash this out and say we have to fix how how we allocate Medicare , medicaid and social security , like that's what's bankrupting us and we all know that and so that has , and I worry that we're going to have to drive off a cliff before it happens Like this shows me that more
and more that what Chip Roy was saying right there . And if Roy doesn't budge and the hardliner Republicans on the budget don't budge , what do you do ? Like Trump's going to go ?
Do you sign this ?
I don't know that it's enough , Like I don't know that he has enough to be able to do that , and Trump can go in and threaten people and say I'm going to primary you and everything else . I don't think he wants to do that .
Right .
And so it's good .
I'm just saying this to me when I saw this issue .
I was like this is a problem . Well , I just wonder , though , the real question becomes can you find enough ? And at this point , the answer appears to be no , that they can't find enough of what they're looking for .
So the question is , will they be a little more modest in their cuts and then and then you know , keep all the promises that Trump tried to do ? But this is a great example . Trump is gone in three years , or three and a half years , right , and he's thinking to do but this is a great example .
Trump is gone in three years , or three and a half years , right , and he's thinking to himself well , I'm not going to go pull someone's benefits . I'm not doing that , and I don't blame him for saying that , but if I were him , I'd want to sit down and try to find a long-term solution . The problem is , there's still not that appetite in DC .
What I'm saying in all this is I'm scared that we are still at a point where we have more , more road to go before we run over the cliff , so we're going to take it right to the end .
Okay . So , no big beautiful bill signing by July 4th .
Well , I don't know , I don't know I they're going to have to come to some sort of a agreement on to hash this out . Somebody's going to blink and we'll tell you who ends up blinking and I do . I get Holly's point on all of it too . You've got to keep your promises to your low-income families who very much depend on Medicaid .
Right , you can't cut their benefits , especially when we have a state that's , I think , we're the most reliant in the country . Oh , absolutely .
We don't want anybody's Medicaid benefits cut here no-transcript .
¶ Comey's Beach Shell Controversy
You know , james Comey , I don't know . I'm sorry . I don't believe that this man just stumbled across some shelves , took a picture and just said oh , I'm going to go ahead and make a post about this . Shells took a picture and just said oh , I'm going to go ahead and make a post about this and it's a vital .
It's just a blatant threat against president Trump . If you can look at this picture , it says 86 47 , which I had never heard that little verbiage before 86 .
No , I've heard of 86 and something . It means to kill it .
I mean so like or yeah to end it , cancel it , be done with it . Like I worked in the restaurant business when you were out of something or you needed it to be removed from the menu , yeah , use 86 to it .
Okay .
So that was very like that .
So that is something Okay . So that's one of the cases made in his defense . So which will begin ?
you still know that it means cancel it , remove it Like . I don't care . And and then in gang language it means to kill somebody , right ? So I'm sorry . There's nothing good about 86 , no matter how you slice it .
There's nothing that Ella , let's go to the thing . As you're kind of walking through this , here's his go back one else yeah , let's see what he says at the bottom of this post .
He says cool shell formation on my beach walk . I'm sorry , you were the director of the FBI and you don't know what 8647 is . And there's been two attempts that we know of on President Trump's life .
Right , that's what makes this different right . Is that someone came within a quarter inch of taking out Trump , no question . And then another guy had a gun waiting there for him as well , and so , but in a way , comey does what Comey does , which is say something ridiculous following this up , Right .
So then here's his half-hearted apology . He says I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw today on a beach walk , which I assumed were a political message . I didn't realize . Some folks associate those numbers with violence . It never occurred to me , but I oppose violence of any kind , so I took the post down .
I'm sorry , you are not the director of the FBI . If you can't figure that out , I'm sorry . Anybody that waits tables can figure that out . And they're not . I was never a director of the FBI .
Are you sure ?
I should be the director .
No no , no , no , I want to be an ambassador .
You know let's not do that . I'm going to be an ambassador .
No , you are . There's going to start . Yeah well , you're going to be an ambassador for a country that we think is an outpost going to be quiet .
And then , all of a sudden they're going to send me to Qatar . Is what they're going to do ? They're going to make me the ambassador to Qatar .
Oh , yeah , yeah , as a woman , I'm definitely going to stand .
Oh , there's no whole version of that as well , which means to offer kill that person , right ? You don't think that Comey knows some gang talk , being in the FBI as long as he was ?
Yeah , and I think he's ignorant , so I think Comey's weird .
I think he's lying . I don't think he's ignorant . To me , ignorance is when you don't know something , and so you , I don't want to give . Yeah , okay , don't give him that kind of credit .
No , no , no , I'm not saying I don't mean ignorant in that way . I think I think he is . I think he has poor judgment when it comes to what to talk about . His , his emotional regulator is off . He doesn't quite get it , and you saw some of that and how he did on on how he handled himself with Trump and then since then .
so he can't stand Trump . Well , there is that .
But but yeah , I know , but there's other .
For example , when you had the whole Hillary Clinton thing and all her emails , like he started to slosh back and forth on that he seems to have , and he's a poor leader where you you don't get the sense that he is sort of understanding the playing field , sticking to his principles and making sure that he makes the right decisions .
Or if he doesn't make the right decisions , he knows then when to pivot and then hold firm in the pivot right . He just is one of these guys that vacillates and is very kind of odd to me . So let's listen to Senator Kennedy who talks . Who's the funniest politician on the planet , really ? And so he was asked you know what the deal was on CNN ?
What was Comey thinking ?
He was calling for violence against President Trump as the great master of a pithy phrase . Most people who use this term seem to come out of the restaurant industry and insist that that's not something that is a statement of violence . What is your view ?
I have no idea , I don't know what was in the guy's head or in his heart . Comey's a little bit neurotic and he loves attention . I mean , he loves attention and I just don't know . Maybe he was trying to get attention . If he was trying to do it , he succeeded . He's got the attention of a whole bunch of FBI agents . So we'll see .
I honestly don't know what the guy was thinking . He probably actually wasn't thinking .
Right , Okay , so he goes with this . Now , somebody who worked with Comey a bit is John Brennan . Who these guys are all ? They all hate Trump , right ? They're all in that same category of . No matter what you say about Trump , it's always justified . He's the worst guy in the world .
So no surprise here John Brennan decides he's going to come out and in defense of Comey anyway .
I know Jim Comey and work very closely with him , didn't always agree with some of the decisions he made , but I think he has unimpeachable integrity from the standpoint of his commitment to the rule of law .
There's absolutely no way that Jim Comey would have been advocating any type of violence against a president of the United States , much less anyone , and it's very unfortunate that we are in an era right now where individuals seize upon something like this and just fuel the fires .
As you pointed out , the term 86 , you know , is used in the restaurant context and has been put on everybody's a restaurant against previous presidents it's often throughout my career I've never heard 86 be used for any type of intent to kill or assassinate someone . 86 is , you know , you discard something .
You , you just , you know , ignore it or it's not something that jim comey would have been advocating in terms of any type of violence , and again , you know , he took down the post . I think was the right thing to do .
But again it's so unfortunate that individuals , including , you know , public officials , have just tried to fan the fires here and just bring increasing sort of anger against Jim Comey .
OK , I'm sorry , it wasn't a rapper that saw this on the beach , took a picture of it and posted it . It was a former director of the FBI , I just think . Well , you know , in the restaurant world it still means to eliminate , to take it off .
That's what Comey was thinking . He's walking down the beach going . You know , in the restaurant world , when that , when that app is off the menu , we got to make sure we 86 , 86 still means to cancel or remove or take away .
Yeah , okay . So however you want to look at it , it's not in a positive way . And if you had not worked in law enforcement with the FBI and had probably as much training as he's had , I might've said , okay , maybe you haven't listened to a gang song , or maybe you haven't listened to I mean a rap song , or you don't know any about gang activity .
Give me a break . I mean , I am a middle-aged white woman that has no gang activity or knowledge . I've never studied it right . I still know what 86-47 means . It took me all of 20 seconds to look at that and know what that means . So the question is is , who put it together right ? And then Comey just sit there and be like justifying his behavior .
I think I'm sorry . If you are a political figure and he is , as the director of FBI , you need to be beyond reproach on this situation . You shouldn't have touched it . You should never have had any business posting it . It was a childish thing . It was ridiculous and dumb . So let's listen to what DNI chief Tulsi Gabbard has to say about this .
I mean , she wants to bring down the law on Comey .
Serious is the administration taking this and what are the next steps going to be ?
We're taking this very seriously . As you mentioned , the Department of Homeland Security , and specifically Sean Curran , the current Secret Service director , a man who has been willing to lay down his life as the lead of President Trump's Secret Service detail for years now . He takes this seriously and is leading the investigation into this threat .
There has to be accountability for this . There was a Rutgers study that just came out a little over a month ago , jesse that asked respondents their view on these calls to assassinate President Trump , and over 55 percent of respondents felt that murdering President Trump would be quote-unquote somewhat justified .
This is the effect of people like James Comey doing this kind of stuff . This study also pointed out that there is a quote unquote assassination culture that is starting to take over the views of what they call the extreme left . We , the American people , cannot take this lightly .
Whatever your politics , we cannot allow people to get by without being held accountable for this kind of public call to assassinate the president of the United States .
Yeah , and I think that's the point , which is , I don't think anybody sits there and says , oh my God , james Comey is going to try to kill the president of the United States . Yeah , and I think that's the point , which is , I don't think anybody sits there and says , oh my God , james Comey is going to try to kill the president . That's ridiculous .
What you worry about is that person sitting somewhere in an apartment in Lincoln , nebraska , that decides I'm going to take my shot , right , there are a lot of people that are deeply , deeply mentally ill that take some of these cues , and somebody like Comey , adding to that with what he did , was absolutely irresponsible and it's clownish behavior from someone who has
revealed himself to be a bit of a a bit of a fool . I mean , I just think he's kind of a fool and some of the stuff that he does and you see how he acts . So it's it's something that I that I think obviously the FBI is talking to him . On Saturday they were talking to him on Saturday . We'll see what ends up happening with that .
I don't think he's going to go to jail or anything like that , but but I but I do think there needs to be a message here and an understanding that this whole thing , this whole underground 86 , 47 thing , or this whole thing where you , you threatened Trump , you threatened Trump voters , you do all that stuff .
It's ridiculous , and remember , james Comey spent a lot of time talking about the violent right when he was FBI director . You know he would talk about it and talk about it .
So , again , I think you have some of these things where , if you're going to have that approach , you have to have the approach on the left where , like , enough of this , we , we can't , we do not need this , and it is something that if we don't put a stop to it
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again , this is the sort of stuff that begets people that are mentally ill that they take their shot . They do , they absolutely do .
I mean , and I'm sorry , we still don't even know all the details surrounding the assassination attempts of Trump .
Oh , we don't know anything .
And I just keep thinking . About the first one especially the first one , and I'm like , I just feel like why would you , as an FBI director , just try to make it that much harder on the Secret Service and everybody else ? You ?
don't . You're sitting there , you think you're being cool and funny and you think you're going to get a bunch of likes on X . That's what you think if you're him . Oh , look what I found . Well , whether he did it or whether he found it , it's total clownish behavior . Yeah , Okay , All right . So the Robert Herr audio is out .
I do want to play a little bit of it , and this is not fun to listen to . This is not funny to listen to and this is not . I don't even think you're it's . I didn't even get angry listening to it , I just kind of shook my head .
I get angry listening to some of the other people that talk about Biden , but listening to him talk here , Robert Herr asked him how he got information . You'll hear Robert Herr give him a question and then you'll listen to what the answer is , and it is meandering .
It has no connection to the question he seems to not quite have a grip of when Beau , his son , died , and he doesn't quite have a grip on when , when Trump took office . He doesn't . Some of those dates don't quite work for him anymore . So usually and that's the thing in politics these dates are burned in your memory .
And do you ? When was this interview conducted ? Do we know about the time ? Yeah , it was ?
it was October 8th 2023 , I believe oh you know the exact date . Yeah , I think it was somewhere in there , but but but like election dates , just so you know , in politics they're burned in your memory .
Right , like they're still burned in ours .
Especially the year like the year you're very like . You know Trump won in 2016 . You know you left the vice presidency in 2017 . Right January 20th or whatever . You know you left the vice presidency in 2017 , right January 20th or whatever 2017 .
Those are things that he would have known , so this is a little tough to listen to , but we want you to hear at least some of it For your book . Where did you keep papers ?
that related to those things that you were actively working on . Well , I don't know . This is what 2017 , 18 , that period , yes , sir , remember , in this time frame , my son has either been deployed or is dying . Okay , he died in 15 , two years before , and so it was .
And , by the way , there were still a lot of people at the time when I got out of the Senate Got out of the Senate . There were still a lot of people at the time when I got out of the Senate that were encouraging me to run in this period , except the president .
I'm not mean to say but he just thought that she had a better shot at winning the presidency than I did , and so I hadn't .
At this point , even though I'm at Penn , I hadn't walked away from the idea that I might run for office again If I ran again I'd be running for president , and so what was happening , though ? One of the boat dying May 30th 2015 , I'm not sure the month or and what's happened in the meantime is that , as Trump gets elected in November of 2017 ? 2016 . 2016 .
2016 . 2016 . All right , so why in ?
2017 ? That's when you left office in January of 2017 .
Okay , but that's when Trump got sworn in . Right , right , correct , okay . Yeah . And in 2017 , beau had passed and this is personal , the title of the book and the title Promise Me . Dad was a . I know you're all close with your sons and daughters , but Bo was like my right arm and I was my left .
These guys were a year and a day apart and they could finish each other's sentences Okay .
So this is what sort of happened . So as you listen to it , it's kind of heartbreaking . I just it bums me out because I think you see it , you see how just his recall just couldn't do it , right , right , and I think what you realize at that point is the people around him , especially Jill Biden , be ashamed of yourself .
I mean doing this to him , because he just was really struggling . And it's on your wife , I think , to have an honest conversation with you about look , this isn't quite going to work .
Right , and you should definitely not be running for reelection Like he should have never , put his hat in the ring for that .
Yeah . And then you pair that with a media structure who was so invested in making sure that Donald Trump could never get back into office . The combination of the two the opportunists next to Biden and the opportunists in the media coming together to lie to people in a way that can only be described as the most devastating political scandal in the past 70 years .
It's that simple and it's not debatable . I'm sorry , if you're trying to debate that , you're crazy , especially when you start looking at some of these headlines and some of what Biden was unable to do and what this book will point out . I have a feeling . But look at some of these .
I mean even a great example here in the Atlantic , right after this very thing , you know , after the her thing comes out and we hear what Robert Herr says , which is he basically says yeah , he's a male , well-meaning guy who just he can't remember anything . Yeah , he doesn't . I mean , he's a well-meaning guy who , just he can't remember anything .
Yeah , he doesn't .
I mean , he wasn't vicious in what he said about him , and so it says how Herr misled the country on Biden's memory . Now , what's interesting about this is , as Robert Herr testified over all of this . You know , adam Schiff attacked Robert Herr and said you didn't have to say that he was a well-meaning man with a poor memory .
You didn't have to say that he was a well-meaning man with a poor memory . You didn't have to say that . In fact he did . The reason he had to say that is because if Robert Herr went out and said I'm not charging Biden and does not explain why it will look so corrupt , it would be terrible . Instead , he goes out and says look , he just can't do it .
No one , we're not , and it was the compassionate , right thing to do . I know the people oh , you should have thrown Biden . No , you shouldn't . Look , biden's got all his problems . I get it , but this was Robert Herr . I think doing it was a note of compassion . It honestly was .
Once you listen to this if you listen to more of it , you hear it it just is he can't answer questions . He just can't do it and I'm sure he had to walk away from this interview going . I hope people around him yank him from from trying to run , and I mean this is months before we actually all find out .
Oh , absolutely , yeah , yeah , and , and he and you could have had he gotten out around this time . Yeah , yeah , and he and you could have had he gotten out around this time . You'd have the time for the Democrats to do what they needed to do , right , which which they didn't do .
So Peter Doocy , who's a Fox correspondent , who kind of sat on the ground and he was Biden's main antagonist during his time in office , and this Robert Hursthoff was not news to him .
I mean , he knew exactly what was going on . Exactly what was going on Biden about this Robert , her recommendation not to prosecute him for mishandling classified information , because he thought after sitting for that interview that any jury would just come to the conclusion that Joe Biden would not be convicted .
He was a well-intentioned , elderly man with a poor memory and even in big moments , big addresses throughout his presidency . A big part of the reason that he had to drop out and cede to Kamala Harris is because it sounded like on camera he was talking in slow motion . If you slowed that down 10 times , that is what you get with this audio .
We know that it was on a busy day . He sat with Robert Herr in the map room at the White House as the October 7th attacks were unfolding . But it really makes everybody . Once you hear this audio , it makes everybody that was saying well , joe Biden is OK in private . Look really , really bad .
We all saw what we saw on camera in public , but this is a recorded and they knew that they were being recorded , but it it just sounds like a guy who really needed a coffee .
So let's hold on for one sec . And so now we go . We go away from the compassionate portion of this , the Biden portion , really , when you listen to it , and again , what I mean by just him as a human being , not everything else , right , right .
But then you get to the infuriating part of this when you start listening to what paid liars were saying for him and enabling him and putting him in a position and , most importantly , putting the country in a very , very vulnerable position like we had not been in in decades .
And have the stamina , physically and mentally , do you think , to continue on even after 2024 ? Don , you're asking me this question oh my gosh .
He's the
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president of the United States . You know he I can't even keep up with him , you know he .
I can't even keep up with him . The most difficult part about a meeting with President Biden is preparing for it , because he is sharp , intensely probing and detail oriented and focused .
I can testify because I've been working very closely with this president for the past two years . I've been knowing it for 30 years and I'm telling you , this guy's tough , he's smart , he's on his game .
Joe Biden has vision , he has knowledge , he has a strategic thinker .
The president is focused , he's detail oriented , he's always thinking about the big picture , he is engaging .
He is capable . He has an incredible record as president .
And I'm often with him on foreign trips he's at the top of his game . So he has a vision , he has knowledge , he has judgment , he has a strategic thinking .
I met with the president I don't know five or six weeks ago , but he seemed fine to me . I have complete confidence in the president . I have watched him expertly guide meetings of staff and cabinet members . I could not have more confidence in the president .
I would just tell you that I meet frequently with the president and every single time I meet with him he is just fine . But he is again knowledgeable wise . Incredibly sharp , incredibly probing , incredible command of the details .
Okay it just is awful what they did . Every one of them should be ashamed of themselves , because they know the truth . We all knew it , but they absolutely knew it .
We should give the best actor awards for these people . Yeah , I don't know who we go to .
Yeah , boyorkas was pretty good . I know I may go with Boyorkas , I , I yeah . Yeah , my orcas was pretty good . I know I may go with my . Oh , probing , I mean probing , you got to get ready for these meetings .
Yeah , the probing questions which are like so what am I talking about again ? Can somebody ? remind me , I mean it's just , and we've been around people I mean , we have people in our family that there's . You know , when you see somebody to start the mental decline to begin , the last thing that you want to do is put them in a stressful situation .
So I don't know how it would be compassionate to keep a man that was clearly , you know , going downhill mentally right , why would you ? It's , the most stressful job in the world is to be the president of the United States .
I don't understand how anybody in his family or anybody in the party that was close to him I don't know if there was somebody running the you know the puppet kind of thing Like there's been that kind of talk that they wanted to keep him in place because they had an agenda to push and he was .
And they didn't want to help Trump , right , I mean that would be . One thing that people don't talk about is the internal pressure within the media to not be seen as helping Trump . That that's what all this comes down to , and , in fact , what you're seeing now is the pivot right . So what happens on the pivot ?
Here's the media pivot from the New York times . Take a look at the headline on the right . Yeah , biden's age is a campaign problem , not a governing one .
All right , so that was February 12th 2024 . Same writer Just complete lie , complete lie , go ahead .
Same writer on May 16th of 2025 . So this week , yep . How did so many elected Democrats miss Biden's infirmity ?
They didn't . We all know they didn't . Yeah , they didn't , and neither did you , neither did you , michelle Goldberg .
Right , you knew it too .
Everybody knew it , but I had conversations with media friends of mine . Right , we're like oh no , no , no , no , no , no , no , he's fine well , I read it .
I read it in the new york times that he was he's fine . No , I I write .
I talked to people who who talked to people who met with him and said oh no , really good , really sharp , and it was just it's such a I mean such garbage . And then I talked to people who went to some of his fundraisers who said yeah , gone , gone , like totally gone yeah , so the question is what message do do democrats take from this ? do they ?
They sit down and say you know what ? We really made a terrible mistake Because it cost them . It cost them significantly , and they've already paid the price . They've taken the medicine . I think for this to be something that they can get past , they have to acknowledge it . But are they acknowledging it ? Here's Chuck Schumer .
I'm interested to know whether the man that you saw sitting there on that couch on that day you were in there , you saw him up close and personal Did you really not have any idea that he was not fit to serve a second term .
Casey , we're looking forward . We have the largest Medicaid cut in front of us .
We have the whole federal government because you lost a presidential election . And is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to run again ?
We're looking forward . So there's a joke , that's it . That's it .
So I mean she's like that's it , that's what you're not , so you're not going to be culpable at all . There's going to be no ownership over any of this .
So there's a joke that there's always this Bill Belichick joke . Where or when he doesn't like how a game is gone , he'll always stand up there and be like we're moving on to the Browns or we're moving on to Cleveland . He like like you won't talk about it . That's Chuck Schumer , right there .
That's a football game and it is not the protection of the United States of America .
I totally agree with you , and the reason it gets worse is this week this book comes out . It's original sin from Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson that talks about all these issues . Jake Tapper is going to go out , and so is Alex Thompson .
They're going to go out on all the Republican , I think places like Megyn Kelly and stuff like that to to go on all the big Republican outlets , Cause they know those people are going to want to buy the book .
Yeah , I mean yeah , but I also think they're going to take a lot of incoming and then I also think it's going to be shots , especially directed at tapper , saying you had a chance to stand up on this , and not only did you not stand up and ask those questions , you ran interference for him , and now you have the I want to say a different word but you have
the cojones to go and put out a book and make money off this , when you could have stood up for , for and done your job for the American people . But you did not do it , you coward . And now , even worse , you step up and you go try to make a bunch of money off .
Oh , he's into capitalism now .
Mark Jake Tapper's a capitalist ?
I don't know I mean , that's exactly what's happening .
So yeah , so we'll see . We'll see what happens , but that is going to be a big deal coming up this week .
So be prepared .
And the budget pill . Be prepared for those two . I know kind of a weird episode
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