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Let me back up a second and explain why I spend so much of my time on defending government education. I'll give you my reason, it's almost always not my clients reason, but it's my personal reason. You would reinstate the debt penalty for some of these or all of these biblical crimes? I wouldn't, but I mean the reconstructed society. I'm saying that this is what God requires. There's God's authority and then there's humanism which is the claim to the authority of human rationality.
So in other works there's no room for compromise. No room for compromise, no room for pluralism. For them pluralism is idolatry. When the country exploded in a protest after George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police, the conversation split along frustrating familiar fault lines. One side says black lives matter. It's supporters call for justice when unarmed black people are killed by police officers and seldom held accountable. Another side says, well just listen to Aaron Doerr.
So we have these violent thugs right here in Des Moines and what happens? This is the socialist takeover of our way of life because if these people try to do that six months ago, they would have been bootstuffed into the dirt and arrested for violence, for rioting, for all kinds of violent crimes. But now these days it's invogin Des Moines, the cops take a knee. Over on the Minnesota gun rights page it's pretty much the same thing.
Ryan says I only take a knee for Jesus and to return fire. Have you seen that crap? Can people get on their knees kissing the feet of other individuals? Try, try to make me get on my knees and kiss anyone's feet. Ben keeps scanning the comments. Michelle says this is my country and they can't have it. Over the summer Ben Doerr shared dozens of videos to pick teen rioting and making. Hey, come on!
He seems gleeful when protesters are arrested and when people break into scene and headquarters in Atlanta. incredulous when a Minneapolis grocery store is looted and raged when someone burns an American flag. The message from the doors is simple. Law abiding citizens like the doors and their followers need guns to protect themselves from senseless, rabid mobs.
People are going to be in the streets burning and looting and shooting businesses tonight in Louisville, Kentucky. And it could easily happen here now. And the riding mob keep in mind all through this podcast when you hear the doors and their associates it's mostly through their Facebook live videos. These black lives matter thugs. But if you follow them on Facebook there's a lot more to see. Memes news articles. Crime stories get a lot of engagement. Shares, comments, likes.
The vast majority feature a grainy security image or a mugshot of a young black man. One recent post is a report from Tennessee. A black car jacket shot and killed a white man, Jordan Stevens, in front of his pregnant wife before taking her hostage. It's a horrifying story. On this Facebook page it's framed as a cautionary tale about why followers should carry guns every day. The post has thousands of shares and likes. Almost 300 comments. Demon filled animal, one woman writes.
Another guy says anybody see a pattern about who's committing these crimes? Seems to be a common denominator in these shootings. And it's not the guns. This one says time for a hangin'. There's a lot of comments calling for the death penalty which means people didn't read the article. The car jacker ultimately shot himself. Now this may be obvious but all of the door brothers are white. Chris and I are white. Actually I'm half-hockey now and but I look white.
We wanted to go through these Facebook pages with someone more likely to be on the sharp end of these comments. My name is Maul and Peterson. I'm the host of the DeCarserated Podcast and most of my work is around criminal racial justice. He's a writer and respected organizing voice. He gave a TED talk about what he does. Family, I'm asking you to do the hard work, the difficult work, the churn work of bestowing undeserved kinds upon those who will be the best.
We can relegate as garbage, we can disregard and discard easily. Marlon is black. His family moved from Trinidad to Brooklyn, New York where he was born. In a lot of ways guns are central to the work Marlon does. He's had a lot of experience with them which we'll get into in a bit. He wouldn't normally scroll through a no compromise gun group page on Facebook. So I got the Facebook page yet. But I asked him to.
I mean it's propaganda. I mean it's also you know racial sometimes racial undertone sometimes racial right on your face. Marlon reads me some of the memes he's saying. The first rule of gun safety never let the government take your guns. Criminal obey laws like politics and follow the oath of office. It's a mindset that's harmful. Check it check on your friends who are looking for ammo. We are not okay.
His post is mocking a phrase black Americans used a lot after the police killings of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor and others. I mean that one is just egregious. I mean I see this nice one in Chicago right under the we are not okay. He spots a Facebook post I hadn't even noticed. It's a picture of the bottom of someone's sneaker. Stuck in the shoes rubber tread are some spent shell casings. The meme text reads. Jogging in Chicago be like. And it's a jogging Chicago be like like.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. You know this obviously a huge problem in Chicago in terms of violence but it's all over the country. It's completely insensitive and it's fucked up. I mean I know it's NPR so you don't use those words here but you know it's real. It's it's fucked up. I mean it's it's just horrible. Black people and brown people are able to be the butt of these type of jokes. In terms of like our our death and our pain is always susceptible to being a punchline.
You know I'm not feeling great about getting him to read this stuff. Oh damn why you put me on to this page. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. I'm Lisa Hagen. And I'm Chris Haxel. This is no compromise. An NPR investigative series about a mission to reconstruct America using two powerful tools guns and Facebook. In the last episode we met the father who raised the doors to fight for a new America one organized under biblical law. We learned about a movement to destroy public education and eliminate gun laws.
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Where we chase the collision of rhyme and punishment in America. The door brothers use the word thug to mean a lot of things. I love it. Daniel also says my father was a Marine. I know, damn well he'd give it to these thugs. That's what they are. They're thugs. They're criminals. They're criminals. In some cases it's a blanket insult hurled at anyone involved in Black Lives Matter protests. Thug can also just be a catch-all for a faceless enemy, a home invader maybe.
Someone their supporters should always be armed against. And the door's definition of thug definitely includes someone with a criminal record. Someone they would say deserves punishment, scorn, sometimes even death. It's also just a common dog whistle for a Black guy, maybe from someplace like New York. We are in Tompkins Park in Best Side Brooklyn. Otherwise known as Vaughan King Park. Marlon Peterson is in his early 40s now. He runs youth development programs.
And like he said, hosts a podcast. He interviews people who've been incarcerated. Growing up, he says guns were all over the place. First time I ever seen a gun, a gun was a friend of mine. We were his apartment here and his nephew pulled a gun out. He pointed at me. He was playing, obviously I was playing, but he pointed at me. He said, get out this room, get out the room before I shoot you or something like that.
And I remember looking at my friend, is he serious? And he's a friend of state quiet. And that was the first time I ever, that's my first introduction to a gun. At least physically real life gun. And then after that, I mean guns are around. So I mean, I never owned my own gun, but I held guns, carry guns for different reasons for fun, for protection. I would, when I say for fun, like we were going to roof and shoot them off a building around like July 4th, and it happened in New Years.
There's something important we should say about Marlon's past. Remember that Ted Talk he gave? She wrote, when I become famous, I would tell everyone that I knew a hero named Marlon Peterson. He was rarely looked like me. In fact, I'm what garbage looks like. As a teenager, Marlon was convicted of a serious crime involving guns. Twelve days before my 20th birthday, I was arrested for my role in a violent robbery attempt in Lower Manhattan, while people were sitting in a coffee shop.
Four people were shot. Two were killed. Five of us were arrested. He spent his 20s in prison for felony murder. Marlon did not kill anyone, but he participated in the robbery. A lot of his work today is about getting people to see the full humanity of even people with violent criminal records. And to do that, he puts a lot of really personal, painful parts of his life on display. You know, I had to get in a position to where I was holding up a store with these folks.
I went through stuff growing up in the neighborhood. I mean, growing up in the neighborhood, I was harmed in physical ways. I was sexually harmed. I was 14, I was sexually assaulted by some at gunpoint. I'm not giving those things excuses. I'm just saying that there were things I grew up around or experience that made me feel as if I needed to be a part of the problem in so many ways.
In those days, I didn't see as being a part of a problem. I thought I was like, be saving myself, like being around certain elements to protect myself and the neighborhood. He says guns are still easy to get for some of the kids he works with. I tell Marlon about the no compromise philosophy, the doors and their friends push. It's always been that way. That's why the background checks are a joke. You know, magazine limits are a joke. It only affects law about insidiscence.
It's not going to stop. It's not going to stop any criminals. Marlon sits with that idea for a minute and starts telling me, this country's relationship with guns has always been about race. The idea that not having gun laws should be a thing because we're going to get them anyway is not looking at the problem with American culture. The problem is that why is that America is such a violent country? That everybody feels like guns are a necessity for the most part.
You create gun laws in this country because black people were asserting their rights to the Panthers. It wasn't until black people said, oh yeah, this is ours. We got the right to do this too. That gun laws in terms of the restriction of guns became a thing. He's talking about a moment in history back in 1967 that really shook up how Americans thought about guns.
When the black Panthers showed up to the California State Capitol, armed, and my under arrest, and my take your hands off me if I'm not under arrest. For months, the Panthers had been controlling their own neighborhoods with guns. They were responding to police violence in Oakland. And on this day, led by Huey Newton and Bobby Seale, they were at the Capitol protesting a proposed gun control law, one specifically aimed at disarming them.
On the Moffat Act now pinning before the California Legislature, the black Panther Party for self-defense calls upon the American people in general and the black people in particular to take full note of the racist California Legislature, which is now considering legislation aimed at keeping the black people disarmed and powerless at the very same time that racist police agencies throughout the country are intensifying the terror, brutality, murder, and repression of black people.
News headlines called the Panthers' visit to the State House in invasion. In white politicians, like then Governor Ronald Reagan, were quick to embrace new gun control measures. I would think that some of the bills that have been suggested such as not carrying a loaded weapon on a city street or in town. This might certainly be a good one. There is absolutely no reason why out on the street today, a civilian should be carrying a loaded weapon.
That bill, the Moffat Act, it passed. Reagan signed it. This was four years after President John F. Kennedy was assassinated. Gun control was on the march. Even the National Rifle Association of the Time ultimately supported the Federal Gun Control Act that would pass in 1968. This was just after the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy.
Among other things, the new gun law restricted mail orders of rifles and shotguns, and barred sales to felons, mentally ill people, and anyone who is, quote, an unlawful user of or addicted to marijuana. But this bill as big as this bill is still fall short. President Lyndon Johnson signed it and hoped more would come. I ask for the National Registration of all guns and the license of those who carry those guns for the fact of life he is, that there are over 160 million guns in this country.
More firearms than families. At the time, some in NRA leadership were considering pulling the group out of politics altogether. But that was about to change. A major shift was brewing inside the NRA, and across the gun rights world. We said earlier in the podcast that the doors are just one faction in a whole movement, and just as the NRA was having its inner turmoil, the Cincinnati Revolt, a new competitor popped up. Gun owners of America, the original, no compromised gun group.
Remember RJ Rushduney, father of reconstructionism, the slavery wasn't so bad guy? Well, he had this friend. Friend of mine, who is a state senator in California, very fine Christian, thoroughly reformed, he's running for US Senate. Rushduney calls him Bill. He also went by Senator H. L. Richardson. They talked a lot. I was chatting with Bill Richardson, our state senator.
When Bill Richardson was in Sacramento, he called me up one day. He'd had a long session with feminists who were there in his office. Rushduney's pal, H. L. Richardson, was not happy with the gun control sweeping through California and the rest of the country. In 1975, when his fellow state lawmakers tried to ban handguns, Richardson decided to start some gun groups of his own. Gun owners of America, gun owners of California, law and order committee all run by Bill Richardson.
Gun owners of America. Today, it's the second largest pro-gun group in the country. Says it has two million members compared to the NRA's 5 million. Just like RJ Rushduney was the father of Christian reconstructionism, gun owners of America or GOA is like the Johnny Apple seed of the whole no compromised movement. Some 40 years after its founding, those seeds that planted are bearing fruit. That talking point that doors use about how the Second Amendment isn't about hunting.
Gun rights is not about hunting. It's not about sports. It's about a response to you tyrannical government. Here's the long time head of gun owners of America. You're going to want to remember this name, Larry Pratt. Yes, our guns are in our hands for people like those in our government right now that think they want to go tyrannical on us. We got something for them. That's what it's all about. The Second Amendment is not about hunting. It's not about target shooting.
It's about Democrats who want to take our rights. Pratt's been saying that for decades. In the gun world, GOA is known as the more militant cousin of the National Rifle Association, which has a lot of appeal for anyone who's fed up with NRA Wayne LaPierre and his suits. As we know by now, there is no shortage of scandalous reports coming out of the NRA. The gun owners of America has its own skeletons.
The story from the 1990s that a lot of its supporters don't like to bring up that whole Aryan nation's thing. The following message comes from an PR sponsor, Mass Mutual. The Mass Mutual Foundation supports local nonprofits like Wayfinders to build financial resilience. Wayfinders CEO Keith Ferry shares why building social capital is critical to improved economic opportunity. Everyone's got a network, but sometimes the networks are very limited.
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The past is never past and every headline has a history. I'm Ramteen Arablui. I'm Ramdaabdh Fattah and we're the hosts of ThruLine, NPR's History Podcast. Each week we go back in time to better understand the present. Bringing lesser known stories and perspectives to the surface. Subscribe and listen to ThruLine from NPR. How are you doing this morning? You don't want to know and I don't want to tell you. Don't worry, Leonard Zeskind is always this contancurist.
He's a writer and in the 90s he won a MacArthur Genius Grant for his work on American White nationalism. He brought us some treasure, a shoe box filled with old cassette tapes. The tape in question, I have a lot of Lewis B. tapes, Mary and the Asians and each other. I don't know whether that'll do. I've asked him for recordings from an infamous meeting in 1992. Its organizers called it the Gathering of Christian Men. It was 160 guys who showed up to talk white power for three days.
The plan with the cassettes is for me to copy them while Lisa talks to Leonard Zeskind. But here at KCU are working cassette players or getting kind of scarce and another reporter is using that room right now. Because you're in trouble though because Chris has not copied at any speed worth talking about. I'm scrambling, Leonard does not want to leave his precious tapes with me, a reporter he barely knows. But the man brought hours of cassettes in a big folder of documents.
At the current rate he'll be done at the end of next year. Okay, I'm not there, I don't know what's going on. It's been a big deal, it's been a big deal, a big deal with him. Would you be open to coming and picking up things maybe tomorrow? Tomorrow but no later than tomorrow young lady. Okay, let's get into these cassettes. This ministry is made possible. Leonard mail order this set of tapes straight from the source.
The organizers of this gathering of extremists, at a YMCA in Estus Park, Colorado. These recordings are incredibly rare. 80535 and now the message. Good evening gentlemen, I'm Pete Peters. I'll get right to the chase, we've got a lot to cover tonight. I'll not ask you how you are. Pete Peters was a Christian identity preacher. That is, he believed that the white people of Northern Europe were the tribes of Israel. He believed that Jews were devils or devilish.
And they believed that people of color were not human the way white people were. Peters is the host and among the crowd he's gathered are old line clansmen, leaders of the neo-Nazi area nations, and soon to be founders of a wave of militia groups. It's a real who's who of 1990's white supremacists? All gathered together because of something that happened just two months earlier, at a place called Ruby Ridge Idaho.
In Northern Idaho, a standoff between federal law officers and a fugitive white supremacist, Randy Weaver, is entering its sixth day. The standoff began last Friday when gunfire killed him. It all started when undercover federal agents got Randy Weaver to sell them two illegally sought-off shotguns. For months, the feds tried to get the former Green Beret to turn himself in. Knowing the family was heavily armed, they finally sent a team of federal agents to get him.
There was a firefight. Weaver's teenage son and a federal agent got killed. Skinheads and members of the area nations have been arriving more frequently at the scene. Five were arrested yesterday on charges of carrying concealed weapons, which consisted of long rifles and bayonets. It's hard to separate them from local Weaver sympathizers. Weaver's wife, Vicki, was killed too by a government sniper.
Weaver surrendered after 11 days, and the government eventually paid him $3.1 million for the wrongful killing of his wife and son. But in the immediate aftermath, outraged Weaver supporters called a meeting in Colorado. While Ruby Ridge was a crisis for them, they believed that Weaver had been targeted over the issue of gun rights and religion. And they were somber, they were angry, and they wanted to do something.
And they came up with a strategy of reaching out across the White supremacist barrier into the larger public. And then the militial movement was born. These days, we can see local militia chapters recruiting in the comments of Facebook pages in the door network. Sometimes right alongside known white nationalists. This meeting in Colorado in the early 90s is sometimes called the Rocky Mountain rendezvous.
And the men who came were from all different parts of the white power spectrum, which means, believe it or not, they didn't agree on a lot of things. But they knew they wanted to come together. Christian identity pastor Pete Peters kicks things off with a little lesson from Scripture. By the God of Abraham, we agree you don't matter our wives and our children. And that's why we're here. And that's why those men got together as contention of noxious as they could be.
They said to those gays that give you, you stinkin bloodthirsty maggots, maggots of give you, you don't go murdering the man's concubine. And they came together as one. That's from the brief fire and brimstone portion of the recordings. But most of what we have on tape honestly sounds more like some kind of business conference. Our premise is that if we're going to beat these people, we have to come up with something new. So we can't play their game any longer.
We're playing a power game, law is a power game. That's what these people are all about creating an all white territory. That's a white-only territory. That's the definition of white nationalism. To create a white nation. This meeting in Colorado lasted three days. Over that time, the men broke into working groups to discuss strategy and report back. All right, so the third system is called a leaderless resistance. But of course, we know better.
We call it following the mandates given to us by our God. Listening through all these tapes is pretty wild, but there's one main reason we wanted them. Because of very special guests accepted an invitation to talk to these men about guns. Here's gun owners of America's Larry Pratt telling the crowd at Estus Park a story from a time just after MLK was assassinated. I'll tell you this when I bought my first gun. It was in 1962 during the riots in Washington and I lived very close by.
Pratt says all he could find was a shotgun. But I do know this. Did a fellow that had that assault rifle so called for a serial? That's exactly what I would have brought. Because I was thinking about defending my family in the face of a total breakdown of police providing any kind of law and order at all. And I wasn't thinking of hunting. I very seldom ever gone hunting to do a mess. Leonard told me Larry Pratt was a really useful figure to the extremists at Estus Park.
He'd been a lawmaker in Virginia. He headed up a national gun rights group. He looked presentable and had powerful friends in Congress. It was just the kind of respectability these white power guys were looking for. And the perfect anti-government gun rights philosophy. In French means nothing. It means don't touch. It means not even in the slightest. If you look up the word in the dictionary, you'll find that it's a rather complete word.
It means don't even touch even out on the fringe, I guess, so we could say sort of the idea that's built in. We're alone at the heart of the matter, so just stay completely away. I think that all gun laws are unconstitutional and I've taken that position. He also takes the position that Americans should have access to whatever state of the art weaponry the military has. Thanks. Shoulder fired rockets? Sure. He was their kind of guy.
Right. And part of his thinking of that is that not only should everyone be armed, but that people should be part of in militia. That's absolutely good. Remember, this was to a crowd that believes Jews and Black people are less than human. People who want to form their own nation state. Pratt takes questions from the audience, gives them gun recommendations. We call this salt weapon that we hear about the AR-15 of the AK-47.
Those guns are good in their place and they're especially good for defense, but not for 200 yards taking somebody out. You really would want to get another kind of gun. I appreciate Larry coming back up to speak. We might have him again. I'm going to have right on his heels and we'll just leave it right on the same tape if my technician can do it. About four years after the white supremacist meeting, his participation came back to bite him.
Because by then, 1996, he was co-chair of Pat Buchanan's presidential campaign. You know, I don't even know this group of white Aryan nations, but let me say this. If this is a group... This is Buchanan, facing questions about Larry Pratt from the press. Have you seen any of these look at SD-Spartan Colorado in 1992? I don't know where SD-Spart Colorado is and I don't know the text is true.
But I think you ought to call him to have him answer all of this because I have no knowledge of it whatsoever. Well, I know that Larry Pratt of the gun owners of America has been a loyal, early supporter of mine when no one else did. Pratt resigned from the campaign, but stayed on at gun owners of America. Through the rest of the 90s, the odds, and even in recent years, he's kept doing TV appearances for GOA on everything from CSBAN.
Larry Pratt, with the gun owners of America, the Senate is going to be voting for... To Info Wars, hosted by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. Now joining us is Larry Pratt, head of gun owners of America, gun owners.org, had been on in a few weeks. Larry Pratt is still listed on the gun owners of America's most recent tax records as executive director emeritus. But they keep him off the about the team page on the GOA website. His son, Eric, has become more of the frontman.
We asked gun owners of America for a comment several times. They refused. For decades, Larry Pratt and GOA have used the media of the day to spread the no compromise message. Newsletters, talk radio, TV interviews. He continued flying around the country, popping up in state houses to advocate for gun laws. Sometimes, right alongside the brother's door. My name is Chris Dora on the executive director for Ohio Gun Hunters.
And today I'm joined with Larry Pratt, the director of Gun Hunters of America. We just got done with the committee here on the onto the next door. Larry Pratt stands next to Chris Dora. He's a little shorter with white hair and red time. How many times have you done this before, Larry? Well, over several decades, it's been a while. Quite a few. They shoot this video together. Larry starts talking about how much times have changed since he got his start back in the 1966.
And now we're using Facebook. And this gets the word out. That was not available even when the concealed ferry movement got started. And happily, the gun owner has continued to utilize these new media. Yes. And so folks, what he touched on there is really important. It is really a new era for communications. So when we send out emails asking you folks to send us a message. Larry is not in like a proud grandfather as Chris picks up the pitch. This stuff really works. This is a big, huge power.
They're volleying talking points like it's tennis. You can bet there would be no door brothers gun rights groups if it weren't for Larry Pratt. Gun owners of America has been training activists on confrontational politics for years. Meanwhile, as Larry is continued working the far fringes, his gun rights group is expanding in other directions. Gun owners of America recently hired a black woman as one of its public faces. There is a fierce no compromise defender advocate of the second amendment.
And she's going to be a tremendous helping us to reach high school in college students. Gio has been funding conservative black speakers who take the no compromise message into black and brown communities. How are we going to get conservative principles in urban America? That's the overarching theme. That's the reason why socialism looks so attractive because we have been unavailable. Now, the door brothers operation is smaller than Gio's.
They don't necessarily have the cash flow to sponsor black speakers, even if they wanted to. What they have is memes. In Georgia, the door's partner Patrick Parsons recently shared an image of a black family, standing proudly with AR-15's slung over their shoulders. Followers in the comment section are thrilled. One guy says armed minorities are harder to oppress. Good for them. That big gun rally I went to enrichment? It's exciting. It's about time that the gun owners finally said this is it.
Was overwhelmingly white. But the doors reposted lots of pictures of the pretty small number of black people who did show up. I talked about this stuff with Marlon Peterson, the guy from the top of the show. He doesn't buy the pitch from any of the no compromise groups. It's not for the purpose of freeing black people. It's not for the purpose of making sure that another black person isn't killed by the police.
It isn't to make sure that Chicago or Jackson or Brooklyn or Harlem or Englewood is not being done to make sure these areas become safer. That's not what it's for. So what is it all for? That's part of the puzzle we've been trying to solve all along. What drives the door brothers? Is it really just guns? Is it money? Religion? Racism? We've seen that these groups are comfortable playing with racist stereotypes.
We know that door brothers were heavily influenced by religious thinkers who were slavery apologists and who condemned interracial marriage, men who opposed the civil rights movement, resisted when the federal government began to enforce the idea that black people and women are the equals of white men. And we've heard what the doors think of social justice activism today, specifically the movement for black lives.
We've got these vial criminals known as black lives matter and believe me, they're not peaceful protesters. They're only peaceful. The doors and their partners have stopped talking to us. And even if they would talk, why would they answer our questions about any of those? I mean, did they even know the answer about what motivates them at their most basic emotional level? You know, when he's doing a Facebook live and there's always people checking in and they're telling him how wonderful he is.
And so that's incredibly self-affirming, isn't it? I'd have to think that it is to be the leader of these people that really believe you're doing God's work. On the next episode of No Compromise, we head to a state where, whatever their motivations, it's gotten harder to ignore the doors and their partners. If you watch them, I think you'll, the ego party will see. That he is the authority. And anybody that challenges his authority is a comedy gum grabber.
And we learn about a book that did not get burned. A literal playbook that helped the No Compromise movement hack American politics. You got into computational politics and he actually said, read the book, computational politics, by a former senator, a state senator Richardson from California, who was... And then you use words like kill or where killers or where, you know, we're coming for you. Beside the picture of a gun, there really is no other conclusion you can come to.
They can point to us and point to this whole ethno-state thing and organize around it. They see, see how crazy they are. They want to ethnically cleanse everyone. That's next time on No Compromise. No Compromise is us, Lisa Hagen and Chris Haxel. The shows produced by Graham Smith and edited by Robert Little of NPR's Investigations Unit. Josh Rogazan and Stephen Key are Sound Engineers, sound designed by Josh and Graham.
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