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is not that kind of podcast. It's a podcast that's rooted to me in philosophy, ideology, you know, thoughts really thinking like this ain't the news, you know what I mean, This ain't the news, Ryna, where we cover the current news. Um, the current news could come through No Ceilings, but it's always gonna tie into a greater conversation, you know, about the culture's perspective, you know, on on whatever the content

is itself on the subject. But um, I'm praying for pnb Rock when everybody here this podcast, Um, God willing, nothing happened to him? You know what I mean is something did happen to him? If he didn't pour through rest in peace? Um, that's ship fucked up. But it's it's a it's a really bad time in America. It's been a really bad time. It's been a really bad time, you know what I mean, Like people really poor people getting kicked out their houses. People right now are more

desperate than they ever been. Like they're more desperate, you know. Um, the more ratorium is up, so people losing their houses. Um. One of my partners robbed. He's in a car finance and shout out to the hommy rob um. But he was telling me, like the repo rate is like at all time high, you know. I mean, people are really going through it. And the way jobs are going out the window, you know, the way we turn into AI

as a society. We forget it ain't always about making life faster, like we like to call that efficiency, you know, but it's not, you know what I mean, It's really like lowering the quality of life, Like, uh, convenience kills quality, you know. Um. And I just thought about this. So as I'm looking at the whole story and fold. Right, as I'm looking at the whole story and fold, one thing I noticed, they said, I guess his old lady posted a picture on Instagram can under saying where they

was at. Now. I don't know if that's related, you know, to his robbery. Attempt. I mean, he was at the Roscos in Inglewood, you know what I mean, which ain't Inglewood is a tough place, you know, I mean because you quite don't know, you kind of in the middle of some bullshit even when you are if you don't know. Um, I don't know what type of jury he was wearing, what I'm saying, I don't know none of that. I

just know that this is a real tough situation. And the first thing I noticed on social media was everybody you know talking about Los Angeles. Los Angeles is you know, blah blah blah. You know, a D shout out to me a D counter from Lantana, like l A is worse than it's ever been. And he said it's it's never been this bad. And I tweeted him back. I said, it's always been in this bad. It's always been this bad. It might have been worse at times, but it's always

been this bad. I would say this gene, Um, it has always been this bad. The different set of factors that differentiated today from yesteryear is we didn't have the ability to post where we are in the real time, so his girlfriend posting where they're at, they could very much be why people knew he where he where where he was. And it's crazy because going back to pop Smoke right, a lot of people were insinuating that he the location that he was at was posted. He did

it kind of swinging the camera. It's by accident somehow that the the location was revealed. Like if you've seen the location, it's it's a very unique looking location, so you could know where it's at. Um. But it was a couple of things that made me want to talk about this subject. So this is no seilings glasses Malone, my man Peter Boss in the spot as usual, I got my big brother and resident guests um and extremely articulate podcast and my big brother still um, I don't know, man,

I just don't know. Like um, So one thing I wanted to unpack about this this thing with with rappers in Los Angeles or it's hard being a rapper, like that's the that's becoming a conversation. And just last week, you know, we got a resignation letter from Kwando Rondo about you know, him resigning for being a crypt. I've never seen a public written letter from a nigga, you know, resigning on being a crypt and let's just rewind it

back to that point with Kwando Rondo. Um, I've heard multiple stories, you know, I've heard stories from the homies that surrounding situation my good people, and I don't really want to get to detailed. Well it don't matter. I can actually get detail and stand up for them niggas. So you know a story I heard was, um, so, Kwando Rondo is from a Savannah neighborhood game. Like you know, neighborhood is like a it's almost like the access power. It's like a a network of crips, you know what

I mean. And they all are their own entity, right the forties, the Rolling forty crips are their own entity, but they fall under this this union, this banner that you know, they called neighborhood cryps. The sixties fall under that same banner. The Rolling Sixties, the one of Levin's fall under the same banner. You know, Um, the East Coast, some of their some of their clicks, you know, the six packs to six does to six instance is now

they all fall under you know, the neighborhood banner. It's more gangs daily converting to you know that banner, which to me, like I I make I tee some of the homies about it, but I do respect it. They're trying to find a place of peace, so it's not a bunch of you know, random people kidding each other. They find it some common bond to exist together. Um. But he's from a neighborhood crip gang that's in Savannah

and Georgia. And he extended, you know, his hand to you know, to one assistance in a relationship with some of the neighborhood crips in Los Angeles. And it wasn't a further a criminal enterprise. You know. It happened right after the situation where King Von, you know, him and King Von had their skirmish and King Von lost his life and that whole situation rest in peace to King Von. So he reaches out to them. Now mm, emotional minds will say, you know, he was looking for relationships to

have people. You know, you're looking for allies. You you now, you're in the midst of a real war that could go really bad. You know what. Some people that ask that have already shown to be violent and now you're looking for allies. So he reached out to allies, right, which would be a bunch of poor people from Los Angeles. That represents the neighborhood, and that's a part of the neighborhood.

Click and you know he was looking for allies. So he comes, he sits down, he does big you you know, he does uh podcast, Big youth podcast and shout out to Uncle good nigga always been a one um. And he's just going on gloating about being a cript and how down he was for cripping all how down he was for cripping, How down he was. This big bad nigga,

Big bad nigga. Oh, he's super crip. He never give up cripping, even when he's saying his prayers, you know, in the back of his mind, even when he praying to God, he said, man, I can't stop being a crip. And you fast forward one year later, and you know he's writing a letter saying, oh man, you know y'all don't got my back, y'all not gonna ride for me. And I thought it was funny. I thought it was hilyrius. So I posted it on Twitter and I just laughed at it. I was like, it's craziest. One year and

you know, people got mad. They hit me, Oh man, did you you know, he's you know, he's changing his life. And I'm like, you know, I talked about it, saying, hey man, this is not the root of his problem. Him being a neighborhood crip is not the root of what his conflict is right now, you know, I mean he he like like he didn't. He's not at it with Hoover's. He's not at it with you know, Inglewood families.

He's not at it with a trade gangster crips who would be guys who you know might have an issue in neighborhood cryps some rapper stuff, right, And this is and this is the point I'm getting to. The concept of being a rapper being dangerous is just silly. The reality is, all you gotta do is start watching what the funk you saying. Like, if you watch what you're saying, you have a great problem. The problem is people try to boast their rep vicariously through what they saying on records.

It's one thing to be in front of your homeboys saying some tough ship. It's another thing to get on a record and disrespect a lot of people where everybody can hear you. And now every time you come into communities somebody may want to test the theory. You know. My thing with that whole thing is for him to feel the need to make this public declaration that he's no longer gonna be a cript as corny as hell.

It's like usually, I've never known anyone in my adult life not been around for a while now to write some letters and resign from the cripts of the Bloods like they're working for a job like this probly in the residentation letter, I am no longer available to put it in work. You know, he got cripps, got cripping his two week notification. But there's a belief right and I've heard it amongst some people was like, oh, gee,

you know this is him fixing his life. No, it's not because being a crip did not get his Homi kill. That's not what got his friend killed. I'm plugged in enough in the streets to know being a crip is not what God his friend killed was. The irony is, you know, when he when initially he reached out, I don't know if he's done a really good job of

building a relationship with his counterparts in Los Angeles. There's you know, I'm talking to one of my partners, and they don't have because he's not coming out here to do programs for the kids, and now he's not building the bond or a lot of them is not with him. What good is being a part of a huge network of people that are for the most part, it's a decent amount familiar with violence if you don't utilize a network when you're in that territory, you know what I mean.

Regardless of whatever happened rest in pieces partner that got killed, brother name, but he seemed like a solid brother. I've seen a couple of things. But you know, you have a network of people, right you you you you're saying you're a neighborhood crip, right, you have a network of it. You're in the middle of a conflict, like that's my point. He's in the middle of a conflict where somebody lost their life. I mean, this is not that long. It's

a year ago, you know, King Viola's life. So you're in the Schmack death center of a conflict that's already turned deadly, you know what I mean. So if if you're in my mind, you have to go on offensive. Now. We can't just exist peacefully, you know, I mean That's how I feel about it. My thing is I have to be hyper aggressive to end the conflict and saying but you know, sometimes people you know, have deadly solutions, right, Some people have deadly issues that turned daily it just

keep trying to live their life. Now, I'm not saying he wasn't mindful of the conflict as a rapper. But what I'm saying is you have a network of people here that you are a part of this network. Why is it not more people with you? Why are you

not building that bond? Right? So fast forward to the young man getting killed that was with him, and then he writes his resonation letter and so part of the situation I'm hearing is the family of the dude that got killed with Kwan Doronda was upset with him, you know what I mean. And you know that's how it really goes, you know what i mean. Like I've seen situations with parents get into a dude that be with

a siblings or children when they get killed. Whatever. You know I'm saying, and you're gonna blame The natural emotion is to blame the person next to him, especially his situation to where his conflict has been so public and it actually has hit the boiling point. You feel me like public. I just want to tell you a couple of things like this stuff right here is just saying to me because you have to you have two things

is going on here. You know, you can't even go out if you were young, like you said, if you're a young rapper, young athlete, whoever. You know, it's funny though, if you're a younger turner guy to just passed the bar exam and just or just made partner at your law firm, you don't have the same words. This is a guy that's a Look just look at the dynamic for a minute. They don't have the same concerns with a god that's an athlete or a guy that's a

rapper or whatever. I don't even think actors go through the same thing. What why do you think that is? I mean, let's be honest, right, um, forgive me because it's gonna come on super prejudice. But the average rapper is attempting to wear their wealth publicly, and they tend to find themselves in places where people that don't have wealth, people who are struggling people. They think those are athletes. Yeah,

I mean if you walk outside. If you walk outside right as a rapper, If you walk outside and you have a hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of jury, and you come anywhere near where poor people are, especially somebody that comes from the environment. If you go anywhere where poor people are, what are you really expect? It's like walking See, we really would like to believe as human beings we are super evolved past animals right with all you know, we have the i Q thought, you

know whatever we think. What what's the word pete that makes us feel we're superior to animals? What do they say? Rash and now I'm crazy that don't really make sense. But they hold their head, they hold their heat to it. That's all this This is was the reality is. If there's an opportunity to gain a hundred and fifty thousand and you don't have a significant value, I mean, this is not attorney's robbing these people. You know, attorney goes

to celebrate, you know, a winning a big case. He's not coming out with his hundred and fifty thousand, not a chain on. He not got here two hundred rolesque song. He jumped out his rary. He not gonna go to the spot where the brothers is hanging that's doing bad. Like he's not going there that way. And consider it this way though, Like you're also talking about like microwave fortunes. You know, you get young guys who get all their money at once in the beginning, and you go back

to where your friends are or whatever else. Not every athletes from the hood, none of every probably rapper is, but the ones that are go back to where it's familiar. And like, what's the definition of the world. Like people say, oh, I'm stunting or whatever the hell? What does that mean? It means you're fucking like you're showing somebody else up

like like like glass. It says you there's nothing wrong because a lot of those people have completed this massive, long journey that culminates to them getting that one amount of money. So they're feeling good and they want to go celebrate. They want to get something to honor you know the situation, right, So they go out of body's chain and they're going out to celebrate, but they go to the wrong place. Man. The next thing you know, they lose their life. But why do you want to

go by a big gaudy chain. I actually agree with Pete in that sense. You know what I mean. It's like like in old school, like in baseball, when you hit a home run, you don't stare down the picture. You know what I'm saying, you're gonna get Look, let me finish my point, because to me, it's sad both ways. Right, I don't and I don't think every kid goes out their way to go back and just stunt on people. But I think maybe not deliberately. I think Pete is

a lot right, Like right, it's oh, he's right. But even even even if its okay, it's like you might not not do it maliciously, but you do it inadvertently exactly. He's right. You show up with a big gass fucking like you're just happy, like you're just happy to be you. You're real happy that day. But you show up with a big old production and all your friends in a new car and chain and all the ship and whatever the hell else, you're inadvertently and indirectly, even if you're

not doing it on purpose. Yeah, like if it's just celebrating, let me finish me having one of those kids, and I don't want to get it onto about my son, right, But me seeing this stuff right, um my son. At first when he first took a piece of money, he went out and bought the big change. And he was in the place where he wasn't around nobody of stunning. He was around other people that's in the same profession

he's in. He gets robbed coming off the club, so he wouldn't know where stunting on nobody he did, literally like real story or this is this is this is a real story. This is a real story. Yeah. So, And he wasn't in a location where he was starting don't know aboudy he was in Hollywood. Something walked up on him and leaving the club, like, hey, what's what was the hold on? What's what's the culture of going out to the club in Hollywood? It's I want to

get it. But that's what's what it's all about. It's all about separating yourself to look like you're doing more than the next guys. I'm gonna get a table, I'm gonna buy a bottle, they're gonna carry it. They're on firework show on the bottom and this is doing Super Bowl weaken. My thing is this. We can't keep giving these hohol against excuses to go out and do the ship that they do. Still, I'm not with that. I don't know. That's not what I'm saying. But listen, I

don't agree with that. Would you call a whol agan uh fucking lion if he saw a deer? Hey you're mute it Still no, like I wouldn't call a deer. I wouldn't call a lion um a whol again if he saw a deer when it's time to eat. But if you steal somebody else's foodure a parasite. Yeah, listen to me, I understand what you're saying. The economic situation is so fun. People feel like they don't have no

alternative but to do nothing but going to rob somebody. Well, it's more than just that, right, It's Look, I don't need to make excuses for our background, right there, there's no excuses to be made. If you oppress a people enough,

you make them feel trapped enough, then they respond primitively. Right, Because I agree if you steal somebody, fool, you know what I mean that that is a parasite to some degree, but it's also a way as human beings, even rappers, have to conduct themselves in a humane manner and This is where me and Pete clashes about hyper capitalism being this cool place to exist, because all it really does is show if somebody has extremely too much and somebody

has extremely not enough, you know what I mean, Like it's that horrible. That's a problem with the world. And not to mention, we're cultivating failure in the mind with it, Like where the culture of picking up women if you want to find a wife, Like I've read a post today and let me tell you something. This is like the craziest ship in the world to me. The post says, I want black women to get comfortable with telling people you're not doing enough for me. I want more than

you are capable or willing to provide. More times than not, people coming to our lives and leave with more than what they had, and what we're left with is nothing. That's dead. That's the culture were cultivating. We're colding that men are judged by what they have. Right, So if you trap them into a place, right, if you say, hey, you're nothing without if you don't have this, the only decision is to do whatever it takes by any means.

And I think Malcolm X thing by any means, and I think another like additional factor if you talk about relationships and whatnot. A lot of what the fruits of the benefits or whatever are of making ten million dollars when you're twenty three years old, or you can roll up and you can snatch anybody's girl you want to. So when you when you come up and do that,

you're you're not. There's also a point and there's a line of the sand to me and this and in this type of dynamic where it's not just simply I have something and you have less, so you can capitalize on getting something from me, it's also like I'm gonna take something else from I'm gonna take that girl you've been trying to talk to. I'm gonna take her right now. But I'm not even gonna But again, that's a cheap way to accomplish something too. But that's a whole another

story's chain. Well, so right, there's a double sided thing about that. That's a double sided thing about it. Right, there's a sense of masculinity when niggas Jack yo, chain Like like if same with someone jack's your girl? Yeah, yeah, I agree, right, man, You see I feel some levels, I feel like you're seeing brother, but some of these guys out here committing these failing these dogs are people that are just doing it to be doing them to

flix their muscle again again. Like I can't talk about that small percentage of rich people robbing people because then we have to start talking about what I'm not necessarily saying rich people. I'm talking about people. Now we have to start talking about Nick Pharma. We had to start

talking about any record label. There's there's a spectrum. Yeah, you know, it's like you might not be destitute, but you might just want more than you have, you know, and you might and it's not that urgent, but you just want it. What I'm saying, I think the percentage of with this property, and I think the other percentage of with this ego of somebody saying, I don't know this buster rade, it didn't come up here study trying to make me feel bad. I think people really take

a first. I think that's a very minute percentage of it. Like one thing Boozy said in the Flag interview, he making something about people have hypnotized by hatred. There are a lot of people that are hypnotized by another person's success and feel like that's a personal tech against them. It's like I don't know, like as many probably hundreds of nights as I've spent in the nightclubs and as many dozens of spots as I've been in where this type of ship kind of happened or happened right after

I left or whatever, it's been a lot. You can see it building up, you know, it's there is like the opportunistic like Jacker who comes up? You know, I'm seeing that in Phoenix. My boy used to know who they were. We'd be leaving early because he always leave early as a safety precaution, leave at one thirty. And when we broll up, you go, oh, ship, there's here. Come to Jackers and they park in the back. And that happened for sure. But also like there's a lot

of where it is just eager. You can see it coming and slow motion, there's a little bit of looking there's a little bit of looking back, and you see it kind of build and culminate, and that happens a lot as well. This situation at the restaurant's not that because I don't think that they were eyeballing somebody from the other table talking about and that's where we fall that and I feel where you. But I'm saying, once you really think that this is what this is about,

you know what I mean? Like, oh, they up? You mean they up? So let me flex my ego into just take something from them. Don't think for two seconds that they got to figure it out, because wouldn't nobody threatened they livelihood for this type of crime. If you are great, yes, there there's the one percent of people should night that might take your chain. That's a multime millionaire,

but that's not most people. So even if somebody has three thousand dollars and you're wearing a hundred and dollar war for jury, that's much like lions don't just kill you know, frogs. I mean they'll kill a deer and have the deer for days to eat. You prepare for the future. So my easy, it's easy to just write it off and say, oh man, it's just a bunch of criminals. Uhh. And see, I don't think that's all.

I think there are a lot of people that don't have the opportunities and are just an unfortunate places is a motherfucker. And it's not just it's not just a

regular type of poverty. It's it's an oppression to go with it and living in a society where a bunch of people keep telling you you not if you don't have it, a bunch of people telling you you not ship if you work in McDonald's, and no matter what, especially in today's time, here's the place I do agree with a d with right, because I don't think l A is worse, But I do think the world is a lot cheaper than it ever was because social social

you know, like this, the connecting through social networking, right, it makes actually you don't have to work as hard, right to to you don't have to work as hard to produce the facade. It cheapens the work that you have to do to be something like you can fool everybody. And it has raised the value of social currency. While the American dollar may be going down, social currency is

going up. Yeah. So somebody like Kwando Lando posting that, he could have just said, you know what I'm done if a Nikka called him that, you know what I'm done with that, But there's a social currency as a rapper for him posting that, right, it's value. It makes headlines. He did it on purpose to make one organization. You know what I mean to to capitalize off the same organization. He was just capitalizing off of a year ago, right he was when he was so proud he would never stop.

He did the same thing to capitalize off of it by denouncing it. Gee, I'm gonna tell you what I think he's doing kind of. I think he's separating himself from the criminal enterprise element of it, especially him being in all the ship that he isn't but that but but the rest of the message makes that not true. See, he's going to be in his own ship because as a rapper, when King Von died, rest his soul, young boy.

So when he died, I mean you put out a rap record saying blah blah blah and his soul in his death telling people to go pick him up and see that ain't cool. Man. But that's my point back to the rappers, this is whe air. The conversation that you're projecting into the air can become real. Um, if you're popping it at a high level, niggas may test

what you're saying. So even the robbery part with me and you are on opposite side of the street where you're like people just being hooligans, and I'm like, man, people people, even if they're not admitting it, like let me fix that, brokers. I don't want you to think I'm I don't want nobody to think I'm insenstive towards my community. Still, it's nothing wrong with other black people having success and feeling like where you feel. I don't

think it's nothing wrong with that. I'm supposed to feel. I feel you can feel how you feel. But that's why also told nephew, like, don't do it. It ain't worth it because people doing bad and people in the fun the mood. They're not jealous of successful people. People are not jealous of successful people. They are feeling like they're the noted, the opportunity, and they wanted to because they want people and there's already to treat them a

certain way. Man, we used to go husts. I used to hustle with a grip of PJS and the homies and all that. We would all go to Carson Mark boy Ship. I used to watch niggers from the projects by spend all their money on clothes just so they could look like money to not have no money in

their pocket. Kill me that you mean to tell me that's not a level of trauma like to where you like, instead of having the money in my pocket that people are saying I don't have, I would rather have enough outfits on to where I always look like money without the money in my pocket. See Bengo. That's the difference right there, because, like I said, you don't get these same type of stories from the guy that just got

the residency at the hospital, from the gun partner. Yeah, from the guy that just made partner at the law firm. You know, they're making millions of dollars a year in some cases, but they're not flaking that upstanding as wealth on them on themselves. I feel like you're saying, Peter, they're also not They're also not encroaching you know, dollars

zero row until they're thirty five years old. They're they're they're coming out getting their first job in their late twenties to early thirties and pay and they have five six hundred grand in depth that they got to pay off. They're not hitting dollars zero until they're in their mid mid thirties. By that time, they have a whole different social circle. They've been buried in books, away from friends.

They don't have a social life for twenty years. Like I'm not saying, hey, man, as a rapper, if you get some money, don't buy jury. Like I'm not even giving you that speech on the economics, Like that's another fucking podcast. I'm saying, don't go back to where you're from with that fucking j You are the success. The chain is not a proof anymore. I mean didn't like was it didn't like myb deep get jack for the chain at Queensbridge like twenty years ago. It's been going

on for decades and decades. I think the world, the world as a whole, as a whole, darker world there was back then. But I think it's a lot of fun ship that's going on, and I think we need to pay attention not to get too much off this subject, but I think it all it's all relative. Did you see the new Illinois non detainable offenses beginning in January

two thousand twenty three, Yeah, saw it. Aggravated battery, aggravated d u y, aggravated fleeing, arson, burglary, drug induced homicide, intimidation, kidnapping, robbery, second degree murder, threatening a public official. So that means I could say, I'm gonna kills. I could kidnap a motherfucking and to call this mom and tell him big if you don't have me thousand dollars over, I'm gonna kill his motherfucking and I can get let right off

the same day. But that would that would be the same way if you had Bella not I don't think that that's I believe that that law is you don't even be you don't even detained. You'll be issued a citation like a trashy say you in it that this is almost like some bird ship. Damn here we're coming up. It's not. It's not like that. Listen, Illinois is under a lot of attack right now. Right um, next ship we keep robbing. But again, even before we jump into that, right, uh,

let me connect that. Right. So, I was talking to a hommy today. Shout out to the hommy. Um. I was talking to him today. I caught him on the phone. Hold up, let me tell you man, Chicago cool nigga? Uh uh god damn it. Anyway, I was talking to one of the hommies from Chicago today and we were

talking about something. T I was saying. What I was saying, the term out, you know, is presented from call of duty and a lot of people, you know, he was having a conversation and it was a really big conversation that people reduced down into just something that's hip hop. Right. It was like he was saying, the turn OPT came from call of duty and blah blah blah, and that's

how they started using it. But the the term is part of a greater conversation, right, that we are not just creating this ship like this is a representation of the world we're in. Right, Like the boys in Chicago feel like they're at war. That's why they use the time trenches and in opposition or opponent, whatever you want to make it mean. But they're saying the conversation comes from the military, right. I was. I was telling my homie. I was like, this ain't a conversation of did op.

Did Chicago bring the term op to hip hop? This is a conversation saying these boys ain't made up nothing that don't exist in the world today, and the fact that they feel like they're going through so much where they really feel like they're were I'm gonna tell you something that Change told me one day that really stuck in my head. He said at the height of my game banging when I was sixteen. I really felt like I've enlisted my life to my room and that was

my duty to protect the hood with my life. Is need to be Yeah, but everybody came through there, we was gonna down, and they really felt like he was in service to his community. But but it's true, right, And people think it's about like a street sign, and I'm like, no, it's the people. They're no different than the American soldier, no different than the American soldier. Like I hear people tell me all the time, Oh glass man, how could you came bang? You know? And you don't

own no property. Everybody and listened in the military their own property. Most people in the military don't own property. Most people leave out the military without owning property. They don't just give you a house because you signed up for the military. They house you in the military. When you leave, it on you again to buy a house. They have bills and all kinds of opportunities to help you buy a house. But you still don't get a

house yet. You fighting over this land, right, and it's people don't get like I always say, it's a non fighter that don't get it because they don't you ask most people like, oh, man, I feel like this is about like, oh, they're gonna sell old blocking now, y'all fighting over apartment building that y'all don't own. You know, you don't fight over the fucking building. You fight over the people that live there. Like how are you tied

to yourself? Is irrelevant? Like the mob right is there's no mob street right, but yet they still fight for each other and stand up for each other. It's nothing to do with that. The sign. The sign is just where we actually at, but when we somewhere else we don't. This is us, it represents us. So back to the thing you were saying, um right now, because you know, Illinois, primarily Chicago is so violent, you know, I mean sometimes you know the stuff we're hearing, we forget it's a

greater city with a lot of ship not happening. I mean, we we want to believe that it's happening, but it's not. It's that's a very minor area where a lot of other ship is still motherfucker's going to jail. Actually a really beautiful city, of course, it is just like Los Angeles. It's more brent Woods, it's more brent Woods and hollywoods in Los Angeles than it is Watts or South Centrals. Those are small pieces of a huge Los Angeles city. I mean Los Angeles the city. You know, when you're

really taking into account what actually is it. Proclaimer is in Los Angeles the city. Brentwood is in Los Angeles the city. Those are neighborhoods in the city of Los Angeles. They are not their own cities. Inglewood is is on city, Campton is is on city. But Los Angeles these places are in Watts is in Los Angeles, right, so Watches in Los Angeles. So all of these things, you know, you have people trying to figure out how to make the justice system the ideas. They're trying to figure out

how to make the justice them just right. So bell is important because right if obviously we're behind on the motherfucking economic scale. You know, the majority of people that come from where we come from, we i mean, work four hundred years for free. So we're behind. So when we go to jail, you know, whether it's rightfully show or you know, or or falsely accused. If you don't have the money, you can't get out of jail unless the judge what oh are you right? So setting up

a no cash bail system in Chicago. With the drill movement happening and wrapping, you see this rap ship going on, it could seem a little pergy. It seems like it's a bunch of virunce is gonna jump off. That's not what they're saying. They're not talking about aggregating assault with the weapon. They're not talking about the problems in that specific area that you hear those artists rap about. Yeah, you just read off the list of all the crimes, but the list is not none of those crimes old

and that it's battery. Listen. Battery is a fight that was a fight with a weapon that aggravated no listen. Second degree murderer, threatening a public official, robbery, kidnapps. Ain't no motherfucking game member stress just reading them off. Kidnapping, robbery, murder, game members, kidnapping, that's not the main crying. Come on, man, Pete, how would you feel A be sat in the same community and I kidding up your mom? You see the police,

come peep me a being. You see me six hours later sitting across the stoop looking at your ass when you look out the window. When is the reality is if they had the money, they would beil out and still do it. So that's why white people could kidnap your mama and get out of jail the same way the same day. Now they just jack up the bells so super high. That's why you'll see people. But if

you have money. But if you have the money, you get right out because a lot of those people don't get bailed because they have so much money that perceives international flight risks. If you have a massive tax thing like if you oh million dollars in taxes, you're from Newport, you got a yacht that's registered offshore, you're not getting out of jail. But we need to break it. But

we're not talking about the concept that's that far. We're saying the average person could commit kidnapping and get out of jail. Yet if you black and commit kidnapping, you can't get out of jail. She these are non entertainable offenses. Dog that sounds crazy to me, not not necessarily. Again, how it's being format is important, like most likely you'll be arrested, so you buy into the genuineness of this law. Because when I'm looking at I don't listen, Pete, I

don't believe in right wings or left wings. I believe in we know there's no way justice could be just because it has to be always individual propaponent. Right, But I believe in engineering. Huh, But I believe in engineering. Yeah. But but engineering, I agree with that too. I believe in engineering too. But again it does need to be

swayed completely opposite because it's miss way so bad. But you're okay, I think that I have an unvailed like what I think so like our diametric opposition is not as sure, you know what I meant to Since we are a real platform, man, I don't want to just put we need to research this a little bit more because I can't imagine. That's I've listened to a lot of lawyers do stuff all since last week. Last week. But that's why I wasn't gonna get all the way

into it. But I know, as a component of what's going on in the Chicago rap scene, right, we really see this This is grand issue of Chicago having problems, and now this is a purge all where everybody gonna go out and commit kidnappings That just ain't really wasn't about to happen. But I do think there's an issue where if somebody who is economically privileged committed kidnapping, right, and then somebody poor committed kidnapping and one person can

get out of jail, that ship ain't right. And if if that don't make sixty y'all, I don't know what to say. There's no reason that you should have money and money gets you out of jail when we're in jail for the same thing. I understand that. But but typically bills are are established based off personal finances, and now they're not. And this comes from somebody went to

jail lot. No they're not. They can raise your bill if they think you have money, like yes, if you can get in front of you, but bill's bills usually are already set, like do my favorite charge thir Team five forty one was possession of PCP for sales That motherfucker every time was twenty okay, so then or temper center start right? Yeah? Yeah, temper cent. You saw the bond, right,

you make however determinology goes right. But I think we're looking at the Chicago rap scene and making that an overall issue with Chicago versus probably Ingustice in racial profiling is way worse than that. So I think that the goal or the look of the because I do agree with you, P, I don't funk with none of that ship. I always think it's a scheme going on. If the left wing got something going on, it's a scheme back there.

And the scheme because I was actually saying this right, because if that was the case, most judges could just oh are you, Like if we're gonna leave it to the discretion of the judge now even just oh are you, release you on your own recognition. But it's interesting that the week after a federal law was passed to hire eighties seven thousand new federal I R S agents, and jobs were posted by the I R S saying you need to be able to carry a gun and shoot

to kill. That the week after that, an attack on local law enforcement and like the second largest, third largest city in the country happens to happen, Like there's there's this expansion of federal law enforcement movement happening. It's being pushed by the same people who are like defund with the local police. You can see like the replacement for federalities movement taking place pretty easily. Yeah, the same people are saying both things at the same time. Sure, look

at certain way Government's a thought for another podcast. But yeah, so um, I think, like I said as a rapper, right, it's not that tough. You just have to You can't just come flaws on poor people. So people, so so P and b Rock them want to go have some one. I don't know how. I don't. I don't quite know. But this is a part of a greater conversation. I don't.

I don't. I don't know what happened with P and B. Like I I have no idea, Like I'm just praying, you know, because get through you know all this stuff real quick, can you. We We got a little murky earlier in the show talking about the gentleman from Savannah who publicly decrypted himself, unencrypted himself, unencrypted himself like that, and I saw, I'm gonna starting telling people I'm encrypted.

I'm gonna say this criminal warning they got encrypted. So with all the background discussion of neighborhoods and all that stuff from him, is there a background discussion that we know of this guy. No, So pnb Rock is not pnb Rock. I mean, don't get me wrong. He made some level of rap where you know, we can have some kind of criminal activities to it. But so right now, when I'm catching loosely again, I have very little to no facts outside he got shot at Roscoe's in Englewood.

Is the slight thing is a robbery. Now, he wasn't the one trying to come out and like aligned with sixties and that kind of stuff that I don't know, like, I don't even I think he is kind of connected in some streets, but I don't think that's not how you were talking about. It was a little hard, a little bit. This is just about rapping and people feeling

like being a rapper is hard, and it's not. What makes it hard is the actions, the things you do, and the decisions you make, right, the things that come out of your mouth, excuse me, and and the actions you take. I don't know enough about pnb rock situation, right, I don't like so I can't even talk about that.

But this just made me want to talk about what it is like being a rapper, like a young Dolf right where you have all of these songs and it's super hyper violet, you know what I I mean, And it's crazy and violence happens, and we're like, oh man, it's tough being a rapper. But that's like if you don't talk about these things specifically, right, you know a lot

to the energy we invite in. You know what I'm saying, like like when I make it rap songs, I'm really careful, which would sound crazy to everybody because everybody would think that I'm not. But if you listen to what I'm saying, like I'm really careful what I say, like I'm a real hundred and seventeen street nigger, you don't hear me this and my enemies and rap songs like they are already glasses low, so they already know I already got to be glasses low and deal with everything I did

in the pass if they see me. So now you know what I mean. I'm not trying to add Jaman as a rapper. I'm not saying, Hey, I'm gonna make the whole world chat fuck you in your neighborhood, your funk, your game? Is it fair to say, While perhaps it's not hard to be a rapper and not get yourself, you know, in an adversarial position, it might be hard to be a rapidly successful rapper without using those cheat codes for marketing so to speak. If know, but I

think you call them cheat colds. That's that's what they are. They are cheat colds. If you it's hard to be a rapper the old fashioned way. If you go to a community with no jewlio, what come out your mouth gott to shine? M hm. You know what I'm saying. When you go to the community, it's hard to be weedy and come out your mouth and exist in a place where it's strangers and people that gotta funk with

you and funk with you. Now, they gotta funk with you because whatever coming out your mouth gotta come legit and feel right for them to funk with you or to think you're successful or valuable. So this is why we don't funk with you. This is why we're not gonna miss and twenty change. That's a hundreds of outfit. I just cheated. Now I don't have to say nothing.

I literally got everything that fast. Not to mention there is a value in it, because you went somewhere where people were starving, right and nobody to It's what I

go to the hill with my chains on. They are saying, in so many words, I am so respecting and people fear me so much that they will not remove my ship because you don't say that when you go to the mall, if you go to the baby Center, you're not gonna say I wore are my chains in the Beverley Center because you know, ain't nobody over that mother

starving trying to take them. So again, there's a there's a there's points in going into other people's community, or going into communities where people are poor at and having jewelry worth more than the ouse. There there's there's there's there's there's there's points with the fans. And that's why I'm saying it's another thing like if I make a record and I'm dis in an enemy hood and I'm saying, hey,

funk this community, there's a point in it. It's like that nigga wold he don't give a fun When Draco dis all Inglewood, you look like, holy shit, you. I mean, it's real motherfucking crips and and and nigga crips that beef with Inglewood. Niggas that would not do that because we would all look at that at some level of suicide publicly making that Nipsey is us sick, So he not gonna get on no record and say that ship you know that should go. So I agree, that's actually

what it is. A lot of rappers are taking the cheek codes right and sometimes they backfire. Know what I'm saying now, I'm not saying that's what I'm on pnb Rock. I don't know. I don't know. I just feel bad for me, you know what I'm saying. But I will say this. If it's true that his old lady posted that picture, you know what I'm saying, and it was at the location you was at, that's a no note for sure. M hmm. Fuck beef just because you know you got something that people could pay their rent off.

Still you look like you want to sleep. You got something that you don't always say that whatever blink because you're blinking a really slow motion. But that's all been doing for the last years though, like well I would. That's what it is, though, Pete taking that cheat cold, that cheat cold is dangerous. That's what's hard for rappers. Rappers who take that cheet cold. You wanna this whole communities and get the get the fame for the old

he died, all of them niggers come with something. You want to wear a quarter may not work for jewry report people that it may come with something. All this ship may come with something. All of these risks you take may come with something. What I'm saying, And that's what I think makes it hard being a rapper because you don't gotta do none of this ship. You know what, man, I just um personally if I had to do all over again with the raided, none of my kids lost Angeles.

So I don't know why you act like this ship is in like Cleveland, they robbing, motherfucker's no man, But you take your broke ads down to Cleveland with a hundred thousand dollar chain, they might chop your head off. No, I think that's what any city as far as that. But I'm gonna tell you what's funny. It difficult. What makes an extra difficult, bro with the l A element is this, You got the gangs evolved. It's gangs in Cleveland, not like it was out here. Bro, what's different? They

don't shoot each other. No, it's a little different here. Just the politics and everything. You know what's funny. I hear more non gang members in the l A talk about the what they help politics you'll be talking about it is because everything that has driving what's the policies in Los Angeles? For games? What's the policy? What can I do in Wichhood? Oh I can't come on the show because of this, this and that, or I can't

do this because of this. I always I don't know about the Let's get some clarity on these policies and then I'm gonna do another podcast about policy. Pete, you've been in l A your whole life. What is a policy that you must follow? Me personally, I'm you, I don't know what policies niggas be talking about that you

said politics, what policies must l A niggas follow. I think there's a perception like when I was like, I lived in Oakland and oh four or five and I was up there a lot and O six too, and it didn't have the same feel as it did down here. It is not only worse than the Bay, Yeah, but I'm saying it didn't have the same feel. It was different. I don't know what different. Motherfucker's get killed in the Bay.

It like to me, it's it's more like you like you talk about the beef with sixties and eight trades going back to I don't know when you know, to like some guy shot somebody else back in like eighty one or something like that. That's different. It's communities in Oakland that have been warned since the fucking beginning of time. This country has been in the Cold War that with Russia since the beginning of time. Right now, Ukraine and Russia have been beef in like five months and it's

thousands of motherfucker's getting knocked down. Listen, we gotta stop with the policy talk. There's no fucking policies, take some localize some creep stuff and taking on an international skill and compared to all those places. But it's funny that you don't think it's the same. It's funny that you Russia and Ukraine is different than cities and their trades. What are they fighting over? Still? I think I don't know, Nigga, don't know what did we fight? The Tally Band nine

eleven was the other day. This is the twenty This is the twenty one anniversary that just passed yesterday of the Tally Band, right, Tally ban bombing the towers? What the fund are we fighting them over? What? Listen? We just knocked down the main nigga. A couple of days ago, Biden did the whole press conference like, yeah, you niggas fun with America. This is what's gonna happen. Twenty years later, Obama knockdown Being Ladden, who was like just the mascot

of they movement. He wasn't even the main nigga. He was just the mascot of the movement about seven years ago, eight years ago, I don't know. It wasn't that. It was ten plus years after the ship started. Right now, we've been at it with the Tally Band for longer than twenty years over one situation. What's different? Are they better than us? You're saying that because I resonate more with my community, the niggas that's around me and the people I started with, more than people resonate with the

whole big world, the whole big country. First of all, the reason we had a war with, the reason why we had to get rid of being lotting Man was he was a terrorist. He was a well known terrorist. What the fund do that mean? No, he was a well known terrorist. What do you mean on a large amount of the world's hera when came from him. Look, at this nigga lyon now you just up? Yes, am I making other people directly? That's in it's indirectly A yeah.

There there was a lot of like the term narco terrorism, but he had independent Saudi money that I think was getting washed through Africana. Any poppy so like that. That is a pretty convoluted thing. But there's a right trying to stop the air. That was That was the war on drugs. So we had to we needed to settle to China at a certain price. I'm not funking with you said, why are you always getting when the white people do it? Good? Looking out for tuning into the

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