What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your loaw glasses Malone. So yeah, it's the point I'm saying is like, they raided cous house on the behest of a possible sex trafficking case. Right, yeah, ready, cous house in Beverly Hills. They raided cougs house in Miami, and sex trafficking on a federal level, bro, is really some shit, right, It's not. No, it's it's.
Yeah, that's the real deal. That's the ship that puts you away forever.
Let me read y'all. The definition sex trafficking is the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purposes of a commercial sex act, in which the commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coersion, or in which the person induced the person induced to perform such an act has not attained eighteen years of age. So it's really loose.
That's a dense definition.
And they were asking me, why did I think I wasn't sure did he did it? Or why did I think he didn't do it? I said, because the commercial sex act part right, Like I heard the Cassie you know, I seen the Cassie layout of a civil case, right, and she was saying he forced her to have sex with other people right for his enjoyment. Right, But then the term force right, What are we saying did he threaten her to say? Like, let me ask you a question, Pete if if you say, hey, man, I like the
fuck girls. I like to. I like to. I like to. What's the word when you have sex with a girl? Anneally? Side of eyes? I like to side of mize my women. She like, well, I don't like that. I don't want to do that. Well, if you want to be with me, you know what I mean? This is how I like my sex. And she chooses to be with you, right and let you do it even though she she doesn't
want to do it. And see, that's where it gets crazy on the concept of willingness, you know what I mean, because it's still it's still to me, it's willful even if you don't want to do it. And I tell you I am actually at state being with me. This is what I like. But by that federal standard, by that federal statue, you know what I mean.
That can be considered coercion or for that opens every woman who's ever asked for anything to be bought to her.
Ever, And this is my point into extortion at the And that's.
My point, bro, And I'm glad you said that, because that's where I was trying to get when I was talking to some of my peoples in the conversation. I'm like, like even in the in the in the Harvey Weinstein thing, right, it's like, Okay, if you want this job, you have to watch me jack off as weird and creepy as that ship is. I don't know if that's a force, because the option when it is late, the option is
very much yours right or like. But then I'm saying, like men use power and money to get what they want out of a woman. Women use beauty and.
Sex sex.
Like the vanity of it, all right, And this is a stat of the man and woman dynamic outside of my fold.
This is like the preface in chapter one of like Robert Green's Art of Seduction, like dating.
Back to early like early historic man.
And I think it and I think it changes and people take it differently. Once the person has a quote unquote power money, it's like it's like, well, that happens in the regular ship, Like that happens all the time. I'm sure, like just outside, like in somebody house right now, Like.
Well, if you ain't fuck with me, if you ain't sucking.
About buying, you get up out of here.
Yeah, I ain't doing all that like but it ain't ain't nothing like Okay, I'll do it. He didn't force it.
But when you got a position to where you can change, somebody left, I mean life, you know, at least they believe it.
It changed the whole game.
Somebody said to me. They were saying, because I've been kind of been accused of being like an R Kelly supporter, and I'm not right. This is how I see R Kelly. Bro Somebody said, well, y'all act like R Kelly. Nobody ever thought R Kelly was innocent. There's no person walking the earth that did not think R Kelly was not sleeping with women that were under the legal age of consent. We all knew he married a Leah in real time.
We all knew he pissed on that fifteen year old girl in real time, But at that time, the mind state was different on how we saw men and women dynamics. Right, it was a little looser thirty years ago or thirty years before that, or thirty years before that, because lord knows, half of these niggas Grandpa would be in jail, you know what I'm saying, because they had a different mind
state then it was, they didn't. You know, Over time, sophistication comes in and we start to expect more from human beings as some sophisticated life of you know, some sophisticated form of life. We demand a greater sense of excellence right where it's like, well you have to wait until she eighteen bro before you get before she can legally consent to sleep with you. But back to my point is, I don't think none of us ever thought or R Kelly was in it. Not one person thought
R Kelly was innocent. But you know what happened. It went from him being right breaking the law when it comes to having sex with a what is it called, uh like a statutory statutory rape, to trafficking. And because the federal version of that law, even the Man Act, the Man Act, was a racist law used against Jack Johnson one hundred years ago, one hundred plus years ago for taking white women across state line to fights and fuck them, you know what I'm saying. So they were
able to put racketeering charges. Right, he should have went to jail because the federal violation law that was obvious that he violated was the Child Pornography Act, where you take if you record sleeping with a woman less than sixteen years old, it's a child pornography Act. That shit carry I think sixty ten years or somewhere roughly around there. Right, But because of the false outrage of TV shows that created around the space of conversation you I mean and
turn that villainized him past exactly what he was. Nobody ever thought or Kelly forced anybody. That's something nobody never thought. That's why he was in charged with rape. Right, nobody thought he forced anybody. We all thought he liked young women, and that shit is against the law in some of these states. Some of these states is less than six like some of these states are sixteen more states in the United States of America, the legal age of con
center sixteen than it is eighteen or seventeen. Right, But we all knew he was guilty of statutory rape, and even on a federal level, he would be guilty of the Child Pornography Act, right, But none of us thought he was trafficking women because we have a decent understanding of what trafficking women is in relating to commercial sex acts. But they were able to hit him with that because of the public outrage. They were able to hit him with the Man Act because of the fake public outrage. Right.
They were able to hit him with a racketeering charge because of the fake public outrage, and he ended up with more time than Sammy de Boy Gravano who killed sixteen people. This is my problem, bro, this is what fucking drives me crazy. It's like we keep letting him do that. Like people are mentioning, did he cuz with Jeffrey Epsteincuz had an island of crime?
They gonna do that though, Bro, that's that dude. They the Internet man. People on the Internet, man, they extremists.
I don't even think they extremists as much as they're just shouting. It's not even out of any sense. It's all a false competition. And that's my point, right. Like people was asking me about Diddy, I'm like, look, bro, are we saying I don't have to agree with his life morally? Man? If I got into a moral conversation with most people, they would be telling me what I do as a crypy. Oh you're a crip, well, I would agree with that, y'all. Killy, y'all kill other black people. Nigga.
I don't agree with you drinking alcohol. That's how serious, nigga. I don't agree with you smoking tobacco. Niggas, I don't agree with you. You want to go down a list of dumb ass shit that I don't agree with human beings doing. Bro, like the list of shit that I see human beings doing, and I'd be like, that's dumb niggas doing drugs, right, I'm not judging Puff morally. I don't give a fuck which deal Doughcuz left in the bathroom. I don't ever fuck which one of these niggas he was fucking. If
he was fucking one of these niggas. Listen, it's simple, no sellings, gl my nigga, Pete in the house. I got Joey back for y'all. Know y'all like Joey, y'all think he crazy, so I got him back. I don't like the fact that now we're judging him morally. I mean, people are like, well, I hate him so much. It's like Puff ain't did nothing for nobody to hate cuz Puff not. Now nigga, Puff is against everybody scared of him, and niggas is not scared of puff Dog. Nah, do
I think Puff is capable of doing some bullshit? Sure he got some money. Do I think Puff is a type of nigga that's gonna walk up on the street and try a man man? Fuck No, that ain't his style. Now, He not gonna let you bully his motherfucking family. He gonna stand up for himself what I mean? But he
ain't something motherfuckers who perped us. And now to why people sit back and act like the justice system in some all sense of righteousness, like oh yeah, well, you know they fears don't come unless they got all evidence. Nigga ain't not even coming to They didn't even say they had an arrest warrant. They said they were raiding his house based off the possibility of a sex trafficking game and they had their guns draw Oh you know, they had their guns drawing because he had.
So what the hell?
Like if you if you raiding his house for possible sex trafficking, Like what the fuck they looking for tapes. I don't know, because women and then like tied up like what it seemed like at this point, it just seemed like they got an agenda and it's working.
At that point, they're pretty much raiding the house for electronic devices.
If I had to make guests, right, you know.
This is well this commercial act. And if it's a commercial act of someone under the age of eighteen, well I think I.
Think I think it's any act under the age of eighteen.
Well, I mean sex trafficking, yeah, we as.
You, yeah, but like you don't have to if you.
Transport a minor to have sex, it doesn't need to be commercial for that to be trafficking.
And so maybe that's the part we don't know. Maybe it's some seventeen year old girl, right, he had you know what I mean, and he flew to another state and they had sex. I mean she was seventeen or not and they had sex, you feel me, and that's what they have, then that would be sex trafficking. But again I wouldn't I'd be really careful, like I see. And that's the thing about a federal law. It's left really open, so they can really position the law how
they want. It's not stable. It's really like the times it is black and white, like on drugs, it's like if you get caught with this much dope, your ads going to jail for this much time rights that is, but on a lot of those type of rico charges, trafficing charges, it's really open. And coersion is very much like a motherfucking like an interpretation word.
Sure, coercion.
The problem with coercion is it can be defined as carrot or stick, and then people only think about it in the stick sense, but it can be also existing in the carrots sense, like the Weinstein that's a carrot thing. Suck my dick, I'll put you in that TV show. It's not suck my dick or I'm gonna knock off your kneecap.
You know what I mean? Right, it cuts both ways from zero.
And you ain't gotta suck the dick.
Yeah, Like you don't need the job, go back to the cashier gig you had before.
Co Ers to persuade to do something by using force of threats.
So so they can you don't get that.
You're not gonna get this job if you don't do it.
And and it's like it's so like, yeah.
As if you had the job locked up beforehand, which is the part that isn't true. Like there's a menu of people trying to apply for this, to get cast for this position. We haven't chosen one yet. But if you don't suck my dick, you're going to be out of contention.
Yeah, man, that's that's I mean.
And I don't know how.
To feel about that, bro. Like, because I've watched human beings for years. You something that somebody else wanted to get what they want. Like, while I've never done it, that's not my forte, right, but I've watched human beings do that forever. I watched it beautiful do it with beauty in the pursuit of you know, physical intimacy. For me and I watch men do it for money for money.
We're watching it. We're watching niggas do it right now for money. Yeah, all day on the internet.
So even in a Cassie case, because I've read through it, but I don't remember every part of it. Listen, if he had some woman, if he had some if he told Cassie, Hey, so let's let's agree. Let's let's agree on something, right, Let's let's let's come to some kind of agreement. Let's say he told Cassie, hey, like, I'm a cuk a a motherfucking cup. I like my girl getting nailed by another man. And she's like, well, I really don't like that. I just want to sleep with you.
He like, look, this is what I like it. If you want to be me, this is what I like. And if you not, then if we're not gonna be together. Are we calling that coercion? Are we saying if he say like, I'm gonna beat your ass to do this, like, where does it stand for you? Like Pete, where does it stand for you?
To me?
It has to be an escapable physical threat with time, sense of activity of the immediate variety. Not I know you've grown accustomed to this lifestyle and it would be a shame if something happened to your financial lifestyle.
Wink wink, nod, nod.
That's not be a shame if you have to go get a fucking job, wouldn't it.
No, that's not what about you?
Joy?
Where you staying with it?
I'm kind of with that on the same thing, Like, you got to be some like physical like a real threat like things that we consider real threats.
Danger not yet like danger not like.
Or a shame if you found yourself driving a camera tomorrow, wouldn't.
It you You interpreting that I have power because I am who I am and you may have heard something about me or whatever the case may be. So you like, oh I forced you, are cohersed you or something like that because you you're aware of.
My alleged past. You know, it's like I'm gonna slap the shit out of you if you don't do that.
Well, okay, just like, hey, nigga, you damn nigga added that's kind of it's kind of crazy threat.
I feel the statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone and retribution for something done or not done.
See this is where I was going here real quick with that. It just falls into the definition, is what the definition is. But like, especially in the modern climate, it's gonna get dangerously.
Unavoidable to.
Deal with.
The emotional abuse aspect.
Oh well you don't want to do this, well fine, I'll go fuck Susie Q from my Instagram at box. I'll bring her down here right now. She'll come through, no problem. And that creates an emotional trauma for the girl who for Cassie, who's the girlfriend, because she hasn't liked the idea of her man fucking this other girl. And no, no, no, no no, I'm gonna.
Threat you with emotionally abusive actions.
That worked a lot, and that shit will work and people will be on her side.
Mm hmmm.
Nigga Vance said, I don't honestly don't know. He said, if flying an escort from Phoenix to LA to fuck is illegal, I know mad niggas that are going to jail, I said, Van, that's definitely illegal.
Yeah, that's like superup illegal.
Like way more than even prostitution. That's that's actually trafficking. That's actually it's funny to what we're talking about.
But yeah, yeah, but which is normal as that is.
Yeah, Now imagine.
That's the same as like hosting a babe. That's the same statement as being like, well, if having two ounces of code because of a giant crime, I know a bunch of people have done that before. Well yeah, yeah, just a giant crime.
But but but he asked, he was asking for the sake of prostitution versus trafficking, And I'm like, that's trafficking prostitutions hard.
They've expanded the definition of prostitution. It's pretty much it if you if you take the bitch from the hotel to the street corner, you traffickedor yeah, if if you if you pull up and and you wave the bitch from the curb to the passenger seat you traffickedor from the curb to the passenger.
Seat, right and and and that's my point is like, look.
And it'll get that petty. It'll get that petty.
Especially with the But but they couldn't make that work. They couldn't make that work without public outrage, you know what I mean, Because if we're conscious of what's going on, we'd be like, hold up, hey, o nog y'all stop that that's prob We would force them as a society.
To public opinion convicted.
Man. And it's getting people, it's getting people investigated. And it's not real, bro, These are like these are not true threats to public safety. Puff is not a fucking true threat to public safety. Like we outraged in him, Like it's it was more outrage on Puff than Jeffrey Epstein.
Man.
That's why I don't and I don't support it. Man, I don't support Like, I.
Don't think that that's true.
Bro, there there was an enormous amount of outrage on on Epstein.
That no, no, no, no, Harvey Weinstein.
It was Weinstein.
That ship was yeah, that shit was everywhere, and people were.
More about Epstein being killed. I don't think that there was a lot of talking. That ship was so weird that that that guy's ship was so muffled.
But I'm until he got wise because whoever was fucking because with that little ship, that little weirdo ship that he was doing, it's real power.
Power, I would say, powerful people.
Yeah.
So again it's like listen, if puff broke the law right for real, right, then justice is fair in society and I would understand it, like just like I said, back to the kills thing, I got it if he got ten years. But my problem is when you railroad him and then we're like, well shit, we don't care that nigga was a nuisance. It's like, bro, don't do that, don't don't do that. Like, yes, he should be in prison for crimes that he committed in a society because
that's how justice worked. But everything ain't all, it ain't balls off on because it ain't just do anything to him because he's just this horrible person, you know. I mean, he's a fucked up person and he died. But let's keep it justice, justice, because that's what they would do to other Americans.
That's I mean, this is right here.
This is basically the Eighth Amendment issue about all the Donald Trump shiit. I mean, like he's the best example of language interpretation and bizarre targeting of weird obscure life. It's not even a fact of like the deal with the most of Trump's cases, it's not did he do it or not. It hasn't been adjudicated with precedents as to whether that is or is not even a crime.
He's being convicted on stuff that's gonna get dumped in appeal when it's determined that it's not even a crime, not that the evidence with gas with badly, not that it blah blah blah blah blah, that it simply yeah he did that, and you know, quite frankly, it's just not a crime.
And I don't think society realizes the power of outrage of socially talking about something specifically like I don't think they do because for most people they just going to live in their life, but they forget these are real consequences for real people. And it goes back like to that jay Z line where people have look. I hear so many people telling me, oh man, glasses, uh, you know,
that's how people be. They tell me the mind state of a hater, like I hear people, well, you know, Glass, that's how it is when niggas be hating on you, because niggas they have these grand scheme when you know, because the way a hater feel, and they'll just be breaking down how haters feel. And I will ask him like, cuz you ever hated on somebody?
No?
I ain't, never did that. Well, how do you know this?
Like?
Who where did you get this discernment or this lesson? And hater? One on one like, how do you know how? Oh Glass, you know, when niggas get too much money, they start thinking they could do anything. Have you ever got too much money and thought you'd do anything?
No?
Well, how do you know when a nigga get too much money how he feels.
They've read it, heard somebody else say it, and just regurgitate that.
A group thought. It's all group thought. And then they just say it again and they say it again and it could cost somebody their life. Listen, Cuz if Puff did that shit, then Puff got he got to deal with the society that he is a part of. Right cool, That's how that worked. But man, he already convicted, like I was explaining to them, because like, bro, like, it don't matter if he was not if it came out he was not guilty. His career is over. Oh yeah,
and they don't understand it. They really, well, no, it ain't I'm like, bro, it's over, Like yeah, man, they don't care. Michael Jackson's music career was over.
Yeah, they humiliated him and to this day people saying he did it.
But the problem is so many of these contracts work on moral standards, on them judging your behavior.
But see that's information you privy too, right Bay, and not just because you're in the industry.
You could have read that, right. But they don't care about none of that. Man. They are he guilty in their eyes.
So as soon as the allegations came out, guilty, like they glasses.
Will you know all these years, Glasses, all these years we've been hearing shit. Puff. I'm like, well, what have you heard about Puff all these years because I didn't hear what you heard. I have never in my life heard Puff was a gangster. Now I'm not saying there ain't some niggas saying Puff is a gangster. I just don't know. No nigga that said Puff is no gangster, not her Puff as a man. I'm just starting to
hear more shit about Puff this whole time. Like over the last three or four years, I'm hearing about more tough shit Puff did in his entire life than I've ever heard in MIAs about.
It's about to come out. Now, it's all coming out. He did this, he gets set this person up. He slapped this person.
Yeah, oh he got no. He punched on Drake, right, but it's Drake. No disrespect to to Drake. But like nigga, you don't get no points punching Drake. He got into a ship with Ja Cole. Nigga, you don't get no points choking Jake Cole, not amongst other dudes that's masculine or in the streets at all. We not gonna look at Drake. We're gonna look at Drake as a talented musician. That's a kid from Canada, that's thirty seven, Like, I wouldn't even fucking fight Drake. It's fucking Drake. I wouldn't
fight j Cole Brodies are like talented rapper. Like. So, I don't know where this whole thing came from. Now I'm starting to hear more shit. I didn't hear none of this shit at first. The closest shit I heard to some Gasha shit was Puff putting the hit out on Tupac. That is it. Oh, he was supposed to post them. He was gonna give them some money. That's the closest thing I've heard. I never that too.
People believe that too.
But I've never in any other years, all these years since I heard a Cuz since nineteen ninety one ninety two, heard Cuz doing no bunch of tough ass shit. Never. That's why it's always surprising to me when Cuz ended up in some tough ass shit, when he was arguing with that actor on the corner, dressed like the joker, I just was surprised, Like.
Damne, look at Puff, fink he tough, right.
So I'm so when people say to me because years and years of Puff, I'm like, years and years of Puff doing what Puff never been like that, Oh well he blew that dude car up. Nigga, You fucking my bitch, I'm gonna blow your fucking car up. Damn is wrong with you? I don't think you gotta be tough to blow nobody nigga fucking yo, Broad imagine might sleep with your wife, Joe, you might blow they fucking car up. Yeah, man, maybe ship you gotta be what if it's a nigga, you.
Know I'm carp.
I don't think that makes you tough. Because somebody knocking your girl down and you want vengeance and you take vengeance. That don't mean that you Jeffrey Dahmer. That's standard for for unruling niggas. That what we come from something.
Yeah, it's rage of passion.
Sure, so it just gets worse and worse and I don't get it. And and like this whole trafficking, I'm like, look, glads, so you don't believe none of it? What is none of it? Are we talking about? Morally? Or do I not believe the crime? Do I believe puff trafficked a woman?
No?
But based on a federal statutory law. Better, based on a federal law, the statue of it. If he did fly? Is it possible?
Puff?
Maybe you know, twelve, fifteen, twenty years ago, could have flew a girl seventeen somewhere. Possibly, that's not crazy. But I wouldn't reference that as trafficking.
But I ain't trying to say that was Cassie under age when he started dealing with her.
I don't know. I don't be in the tabloid, so I don't even know when he got her.
Yeah me, me, me, neither man not like that. I don't know.
But I'm saying, okay, okay, based on a federal law, I think your shit is off peak. Based on the federal law, say say something. Nope, you ain't got nothing, I thought, So we can't hear you.
G no he O can't hear you?
Your mic is not no, no okay. So based off the federal law, like I wouldn't reference, I wouldn't reference that as trafficking. I would reference that again. Now this is where it does become interpretation and personal. But based on the federal law, he's trafficking. So then by the federal law, I just say, yeah, puff, federally, if he flew a seventeen year old girl somewhere and fucked her that my friend is fucking trafficking under the federal statue,
then you're a trafficker. You're a federal trafficker. Then I get it. Okay, sure, but based off what we understand about trafficking, I wouldn't have connected the two. No, not at all.
I think that is just like what they Yeah, it's like with the whole pimping at home thing when they start putting that on the pitch, you know what I'm saying, Like they can create what they want, they can create laws. I mean, you can get them passed and then it's working.
This to me is one of those things where it's like, as far as defining trafficking, if you're the it's like it's like the end user, the buyer versus seller. Right if you if you flew a chick out who had a pimp, the pimp, who the pimp is the trafficker, you're just the guy buying with the girl.
But but based off the federal statue that person can be charged with.
Understand that.
I understand that now I'm saying as far as yeah, I'm saying as far as like defining you know, the spirit of the law versus letter of the law, oh you know, see.
I like and as a and as a as an outlaw, I wouldn't even know those that specific. I know what you're talking about exactly, but that's exactly spiritually what I've been trying to summon that, Like, yes, there is the letter of the law, and then there's the spirit of the law.
There you go, sure, and like even within that, if you're just some chick who why don't you come down here to my house in Miami from Atlanta whatever, blah blah blah mess around. I don't really want to. I don't really think I can. Dad, I'll slide to two thousand, okay, okay, cool, then I'll come down tomorrow. At that point, the lady is then an entrepreneur. She's trafficking herself.
Well.
But but yes, that's the spirit of the laws.
That's what I'm saying.
The letter of the law is, Yeah, anybody moves anybody anywhere for any purpose and has sex.
That there it's no, no, it has to be commercial or under the age of eighteen.
Define commerce.
The Commerce clause at the federal level says anything that impacts the economy outwardly without a transaction is commerce. Wow, So so define commerce. That is a very vague, it's very opaque.
There's so many layers that ships. The point where it was created. The really like you, it's.
It's like if I grow corn on my balcony and eat it myself, because I therefore am affecting the inner state corn marketed, it's under.
The commerce clause.
Wow.
Wow, man, they when they.
They know what they're doing.
Okay, so there are some things I have to accept right federally, federally, federally again, I'm gonna readss Trafficking is the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act in which the commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coersion, or it was the person induced to perform such an act has not obtained eighteen years of age.
So based on that bro chances are them saying he trafficking can be true according to that law.
Yeah, and everybody keeps saying Cassie, but it may not even be Cassie because girl, there was another girl that said it that she was seventeen.
That's what I and that's what they're doing.
They building it up and then, like you say, they they are weaponizing public outrage and dusing it all against him because he guilty in nigga's eyes, Like you the people that's really trying to that. I mean, like when I was listening to you talk to them dudes, and they I felt like that what they was asking was unfair because they basically like they're trying to make it. It's like, y'all all believe what y'all believe based on how y'all proceed this shit because we don't know, we
don't know the facts. We just know what was said. So it's like, why do you believe it? Why don't you believe it? It's like because I just I think that's a bit extreme in a reach. And at this point it's obvious that y'all won't this. Y'all won't this nigga in jail for this. Y'all believe he's a horrible person. Y'all don't see no good. Y'all don't see no good.
And it's weird because even when they would be talking about sugar different people, they'd be like, and I'm like, bro, these people are not any different than any person.
Well, the difference is that they're celebrities and they're rich on paper, so the moral that.
Will It's it's.
Like you say, we see ship in here conversations all the time, man, the nigga. I mean, look the man, Come on, man, it's so much wild shit going on bro in everyday life. You feel me like to where but they don't matter. They don't matter. It's like they not they're not diddy. It's like, man, they ain't even
they ain't doing nothing good in their life at this point. Man, they just guilty like you're the They're the worst person people in the world, bro, which makes you realize how bad, like how horrible are the people that's judging them is.
I don't know, this conversation falls so far into women versus men so often, Like I'm tired of the conversation being pushed into what she came out right now or you know, why does she come out? Like I don't want to have that conversation. I watch entirely too much Law and Order as for you.
Because it's gonna turn into an argument.
Yeah, and I watch too much Law and Order as for you, bro, And like I am way over programmed in rape culture, you know what I mean? Like Olivia Benson cuz has like, like, she has shaped my view on rape. That's crazy, right, a fucking character on television, right, Detective Tutuola, you know what I mean. Shout out to the big Homy Ice, all of these people, Stabler, They have shaped my mind on rape culture. I don't have
a fair mind. So, like, I really believe everything that shows say about rape, like women could come out you fear me twenty years, they could be embarrassed, like, I don't know. So I really believe it because that show has done such an excellent job of programming me. I won't say teaching me because I didn't have to read it. I didn't have to follow up the information. I am programmed by what they say about, you know, any of those type of hainous crimes towards women sexually. I am programmed.
So like when people say that, I'm automatically like, shit, that's not what Olivia said. So I'm gonna take Olivia Benson's word because I've been watching this motherfucker for twenty five years.
I mean, they telling you something though in them show they don't just hear it.
So I'm okay with that programming. That's one of the hearsay things that I am okay with. But again, there is a space, bro where it's like, like even with Diddy, like what are we saying he did to Cassie. Did he say I'm gonna kick your ass if you don't have sex with this man, then that motherfucker is sex trafficking, you know what I mean?
If you did that he beat her up. They saying, you know, I mean, it's.
No I've seen it into fights and he heard her, right, But it's not connected to sex, you know, I mean, it's it's over disagreements.
When though they're gonna connect all that.
Opinion, Yeah, in the in the in the in the in the uh, in the complaint, that's not it wasn't attached great, Yeah, the complaint and the complaint. It was like this nigga was whooping my ass, I mean over dudes calling me or certain people or blah blah blah, like right, but it wasn't connected to sex. And it's important that those two things happen. Like the thought of me kicking your ass at this time of what I'm asking you to do, that's a far separate component. Because of the.
Fact that she's stayed with him. That whole time, and he was doing all this that's when the whole.
See, I don't even want to get into that because I watched too much as for you, And.
Yeah, but what I'm saying, but I'm saying is people are going to look at it like, well, she stayed because she was afraid. He called hers her, he did all these other things, blackmail, he did all these things. He's doing that that's why she stayed. She's not about to be held accountable for making a choice to still stay. Even if you're afraid, you're still making a choice.
See, I watched too much SVU, dog, So I can't even give you an honest answer. And I'm not going to even respond to that logically because I don't have a logical process. I would literally repeat something that I heard in SVU, you know what I mean. So look, that's a nuanced conversation that I don't have enough information to have, you know what I mean. But why she stayed with him could definitely be out of fear, and it could be out of the fact that she likes
the comfortable lifestyle. And I don't think neither should be negated.
Yeah, I think they both could be true.
And it's probably both are true. Now, the fear part, I don't know because I would. I don't know Puff like that. I don't know Puff as this monster. Puff came whip my ass. No, no disrespect Puff. If you heard this podcast, Puff couldn't whoop my ass. So I'd never be scared of Puff. It's niggas who came with my ass. I might, like, I think me and Shug
is a good squabble. He could win or I might win, But I'm not like I'd be more scared of Should than I would be a Puff, you know what I'm saying, Like, if I had to have fear, I'd be like that big old nigga that's gonna.
Be a bob. It's gonna it's gonna hurt.
This is gonna come, It may hurt, you know what I'm saying. So but I just look at Puff, so I could never see Puff from that for tea ladies eyes, you know what I mean. So I'm not saying that those things are not true, like because we don't know exactly, I believe her that he kicked her ass before.
Well, when we all know niggas, couples.
Fight, Yeah, people fight, and she probably was on the losing in Yeah.
Yeah, people act like nigga couples fight.
I'm in. I'm all into yep. I always say that I'm not I'm not not acknowledging that's true. That's true. I stand with you on that. What I'm saying is, let's say that's true. Let's say he kicked her ass. Let's say she lost the fight, right, they want to it, she lost the fight. I don't know if I'm connecting that to you. Gonna do whatever I'm gonna say because you think I'm gonna kick my ass and see that's hard for me because I don't think one plus one
equals two. Yeah, but they connected that, sure, sure, Sure that's the that's just what he gotta be fitter kicking her ass over set. I'm not in that.
There all the nigga all that's factor when nigga, you know what I mean, young man, then you got other niggas tell the stories.
Do you feel like do you feel like people weaponizing their celebrity to get what they want? Is that wrong?
Is it wrong?
Yeah? Do you feel like morally that's wrong?
Man?
Because we are if we if we really just break down life and just even in our regular life. Somebody that weaponized something that they they embody or possessed to get what they want. I just think they're they are being seen, you know what I'm saying, Like, didre weaponize her beauty and her sex?
And in the game she.
Had came across you know what I'm saying, and had that little boy put a baby in it.
He said he got babies with two other girls too, coming.
Right, you know what I'm saying. But you know she a girl though, so they ain't gonna look at it like that.
I mean, yeah, you see some outrage on her and comments, but for the most part, they like, man.
I was just as he just got his old girl prayer, He got all his girls prayer, he got all he got it. Yeah, he out there by the boy Jay out there, shout out to Jay.
I don't know, Man, you can say the weaponizing, you know what I mean, Like, boy, get out of here.
But you can't say nothing about women. Bro.
If you ain't calling them beautiful, gorgeous, perfect, you really ain't supposed to say shit.
Yeah, that's definitely where we're at in society. What do you generally feel about this, like sex trafficking based off of the definition I gave you on the federal level, do you think that that's do you think that what if you had to pick because Joey, between what I explained about the federal statue of sex trafficking, sex trafficking is the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purposes of a commercial sex act,
in which the commercial sect in which the commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or corrosion, or in which the person induced to perform such an act has not attained eighteen years of age. If again, because this is somebody life, but if he was guilty federally of one of those, which part would you think it would be.
Him? Just him transporting some pussy?
Like but see, but I just don't know how you wrap that into commercial.
Well, it's probably just because he the fact that he's just rich and he has money. So people feel like that's just these things are happening just because he is who he is and he have money.
That is I don't know, it is that loose to interpretation, That's what I'm saying. I don't know if he's paying, Like, look, I'm I'm gonna shoot you this bread and all that.
There's no doubt in my mind that these niggas be buying bitches.
I would feel no disappointed if Puff was paying for pussy.
I mean, what what probably not like, hey, look I'm gonna pay you.
You're gonna fuck me.
But it's like I'm diddy, so you you money, just come with me being diddy.
Yeah, but then you probably I didn't heart.
I didn't hear niggas say like women that come kicking and you know, yeah, you know, yeah, shoot him a couple of shoot him a thousand of dollars or something like that. Man, just because off GP. It just make things go smoother. You may not have like negotiated it.
Yeah, but I can't believe Puff is paying for pussy. Now now listen why they.
Huh?
Why would I would be so outrage if somebody told me I had to pay for pussy.
If I was, well, you don't, you don't have to, But people choose to.
You mean to tell me she don't want to fuck me for free?
They's it's a possibility that is bitches that don't want to fuck.
You for free?
For real?
If you Puff, I'm pretty sure it's bitches that don't want to willingly fuck Puff.
There's women who don't willingly want to sleep with Puff Daddy.
Yeah, there's women, But then you got holes right who will and they like are either gonna do it for the bread or for the stature or for whatever.
You know, I'm the lifestyle and he's paying at that point.
So you think he could have paid for some pussy?
Now, now do I think uh puffy on fig?
No, no, no, I'm not saying on fig. But he paying, so you genuinely believe he could have been paying uh uh escort?
I believe he paid for escort before. Yes, wouldn't I wouldn't doubt that. I wouldn't doubt that. Niggas don't have They probably have parties and pay a lot at escorts. Pull up, I'm gonna fly, y'all out, y'all know what's happening. Do y'all think money here? Y'all good?
All right?
For sure?
Shit then he goddamn so this whole episode. But I just feel dumb because at that point, federally, to the letter of the law, not the spirit of it, but to the letter of the law, he would probably be guilty if he flew some girls out. It was like, like, let's say he paid some girls that was like dancers or got out I to come out and fuck with us, and five for y'all and this five of us and I'm flying y'all out. That would be sex trafficking on the federal level.
As regular as it is, and it don't really be no big thing, but in the sense of this, and it's daddy the public outrage and you got people who just they didn't already painted this picture. I mean, they calling the nigga gay every like, they just they dogging a nigga. And I don't know what he didne did to people. You feel me, I ain't never been signed a bad boy, but they just dogging a nigga. It ain't nobody speaking up for him.
I feel like it's just me like and I'm like, I don't even fuck with this nigga.
Yeah, but see we yeah, but you yeah, man, ain't nobody speaking for that nigga.
Man, because everybody else worried about they checks and or.
Worried about how people go see them.
Oh, they definitely believe that, Oh for sure that it's a lot of that. Because you could talk to some of these dudes behind closed doors and they know what's up. You'd be like, damn nigga, But you can't say that because you know you're attached to this corporation, or you.
Really just don't want to deal with being looked at a certain way.
I just really feel like I cannot be the only reasonable real nigga in the room.
Bro.
You mean, everybody on dope, everybody drink drunk, everybody is being sexual shit everybody.
No, everybody not on it.
But you definitely when it comes to just having your own thoughts and and and even just reading things, like even just reading that definition you read like three or four times right now, I don't think most people are even doing that.
Which brought me to the thing off he possibly could be guilty. I can't just say I don't believe he's guilty, you.
Know, because now that you have the definition of what letter is the letter letter, Now that you have this, it's damn near it's damn near impossible.
For him to probably not ever traffic.
That's true, Like Van just said, the letter of the law versus the spirits.
Biggas rap about flying bitches out all the time.
Yes, and you know they paying and you, nigga.
You ain't even flying them out.
The fuck.
It's hard for me to believe niggas flying out bitches and not wanting to fuck him. M and when like when women be like, oh, why would a man expect that, It's like, why wouldnety, why would he fly you out?
Are you are y'all dating? Like?
Is he trying to really? Is he looking to marry you? Are y'all court on Instagram? You on Instagram? Ass out till he's out. He get at you and fly you out and you don't think he expecting the fuck. That's crazy.
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