Conversations with the WHITE MAN

and I'm tired of hearing. The homies had these conversations because talking about what person were making rich. Oh we made this white man. I'm not trying to make none of you motherfucker's rich. I'm trying to buy the product that you are selling me. Know what's funny is that that that your hood? That phone finger was like our biggest seller on tour. I remember we had a show, right, We had a show in Baton rouge Um probably two

thousand nine. It was like our first radio show because my song was like number one in Baton Rude certified and they booked us to do a radio show. And at that time I think I felt so much pressure because about I felt so much pressure about making sure that I was starting to include gangster rap. So I came up with the bright idea to performing funk your Hood at the radio concert. The whole time head telling me, don't perform your hood. It's a radio concert. It's all

kind of ship. But I'm like, man, here's you tripping. You don't want to do this gangster ship, and we're gonna do this gangster ship. So head Head is really my look like he was always right to die with me. So he was damned So where that was the first time I ever got bold at a concert, Like, oh, they took it personal, bro, And I wrapped every word of it and then dropped the the beat on the second verse and wrapped that a cappella. I ain't the one for you to head up real talk. I'm gonna

tell you throw your ship up. Don't matter my hood. That's my little secret. I bang any hood that y'all motherfucker's beef with. It was just going on. It was so crazy, and they was like, boa, he was so mad because I'm like screaming, fuck your hood. Nigga's all phony. Nigga fuck your hood and your dad homies, nigga, fuck your hood. If you don't bang, mind's let my fingers

do the talking, nigga, check the gang signs. And your point was, well, I don't know what I was snaking, because I don't think I was thinking, man on God, like, I don't think I was thinking at that point. When when did you start touring with mac ten? Two thousand and nine? Two thousand nine? When I start touring with

one though, that's probably about two thousand and six. When I was at a s U he and E forty did a show at this theater that's now condos right there in Tempe, and I was there with some guys from Westside City in Phoenix, and we kind of saw the writing on the wall, like let's go hit the waffle house. We don't I want to do this ship

right now. But his girl and her friend wanted to be present for the drama, and of course they shot up the parking lot, and his girl's friend had a big old ass and got a big old slug right and that less remember, and I'm like that good old ass up, oh man, I was. I had tried and failed with her anyway, so I was kind of like. I was like, it wasn't my boys girls, my boys girl's friend. So I was trying to get at her

in the car on the way to the show. She shot me down and like, yeah, go ahead, hope that ask gets shot. So I used to do all kind of ships. So outside of doing that concert and batting rude because and performing fuckinghood, I used to do all kind of gangster ship. Like I remember I had a show in west Side parrou I did think like one of my earliest concerts was for west Side Parroule Hood Day. For me, this is a part rule hood Day. And they're like, glasses, we want you to come do it.

And I was like, all right, let's do it. And I remember taking my boy Jay, you with me from Long Beach and Jay ain't no gangbanger, but you know, all Long Beach niggas crips, like all Inglewood niggas bloods. It's just and I remember I took him with me, and I remember I performed at that motherfucking concert because when I tell you, I rocked that motherfucker because I didn't change one word I did to add this part family room for me, I did Denver Line hood day.

I didn't did all kind of crazy ship. I didn't got love for some niggas where I probably shouldn't that. But this is no sillings. The l O glasses up in this motherfucker. My boy Pete Pep back again, Peter Boss. Of course, my nigga mook came through. He off that vodka and how he throws mix keeping it toxic. We gotta make a keeping toxic. We gotta make a Spanish name for that drink. How he throws because and fucking with the vodka like the Russian. Oh, we can call

it the Mexican mafia. How he throws and vodka is the Mexican mafia. That's perfect. As he looking at him, it's good you have a few shots to that, he feeling. He feeling like American me. I felt like, you're drink enough of that ship. You're gonna be fettering for sure, You're gonna you're gonna be screaming. Don't look at me, puppet. Don't look at me, lithal puppet, fucking with that ship coming out. Yeah, I'm coming. I'm coming out, nigga, and I know y'all gonna get I was watching that ship

this more in it. A lot of hearts two nights ago. Ain't that funked up moon Tho did? Because like that, like moondow was this boy you statue? That was the more sucker niked to me. Let me let me tell you some ship that irritates my soul about that movie. I'm glad we brought that up. I'm glad we brought that. The whole thing about that. This is what pissed me off. They had ultimate respect for the crackers in the movie,

all the white folks. They called him the whites, the arians, every reference because in the movie, when it came to black people was my yachts. And every song on the fucking soundtrack was made by sucking my yachts. Think about it. They playing war, slipping in the darkness, they playing numb but oh these yeah at the end credits. So the whole movie you just disrespecting. But those two crews kind of they clicked together though, the Brandon and they clicked together. Yeah.

But but I can kind of get the tone for the films people. Bro, that's white old so he played him white oldies. Bro. They did play the whitelire in the Handball. Yeah, but even then, they went to a black song, was it. Yeah, they always end up going to a black song after they didn't called niggas a hundred my yachts in the movie. And and don't get me wrong, I love him j D White. J D

is white. I mean, but the real person Morgan did you did you see the backdrop of that with them what's the name of the guy Johnny trey Hoo did the interview about that, Danny Trayo. That's right, and all the people got killed. Yeah, my cousin and I we watched American Me, the trey Hoo interview on the VLAD and then the other movie that trey Hoo was in that he said was a more accurate interpretation of the of the same story back to back to back, that

we did a whole marathon. Yeah, I mean, American Me is dope totally. And I love how they I had over it. Yeah, they used real references, like they was naming real names, like the white fans, all of them. That was like super jig when you think about it. But yeah, that ship irritated my soul. They kept like it was an ultimate respect they put on white people name. It was like, yeah, the whites the Arians, but every last time it was the myottage and then another song

by Nigger a black person to come on. I took that, how y'all hate us but love the music. That ain't right. I took that as as kind of subtly establishing the because Krim if I'm wrong, like m A and the brand, click up more and like BHF for Nortania, click couple a little bit more. Right at the state level, I don't know, I don't. I think historic had been some ties there, so I think all of them right. It depends on what's motivating them, for sure, Like everybody's in

self interest. So this has always been a weird thing, you know what I mean. But that particular one thing fun with me. I understand that every last time it was like, yeah, the fucking my yachts, and then it'll be like but that boo doooo doo doo doo slipped in and goddamn, because you can't play nothing else. You just isn't. That's the greatest it was. It was like it was like if they made the Art Labou Show into a movie exactly. That's what I'm saying. That ship

crazy for that ship crazy. They love us, bro they love the music. They'd be like, fuck my yats and then turn on war. How awesome were those old art labou callings with the subtle like like hit messages. All this message goes out to Spider from your miha Maria, I miss you so much, I love you. I can't wait till you get out. Uh, And that's something like subtle reference ball black, And then they go into zapping Roger for sure the time you knocked me down, for

sure knocked me down in the classroom exactly. We were scamming together from the third grade. And they come on with another black don't let the side show begin every time guy. Well, like my dad's brother. Both of them were like he has two brothers that are twins, not of his twins, but they're themselves twins. And they each

got strikes and been system for since the eighties. And one of them is like pretty freaking hardcore on the yard there was back in l A County in the eighties, and his he had even told me old stories about how like he got in there a couple of times and like at some point in the process we'll get you know, some black guys will try to check him and he was like a second third degree black belt and would be you know, about six to ten or

something like that, and whoops, some dudes asses really really bad, to the point where like the Mexicans used to funk with him off of that. So I just kind of I kind of in Washington movie, I get a little bit of a sense that at least maybe during that time of the eighties, there was a a different kind of association. If there's maybe say three groups that are racially at odds with one another, that like those two seem to have maybe a different understanding or some sort

of thing, you know, And I could be completely off. No, no, no, it's it's it's truth. And that what I don't understand about either American me or Bloody and blood out right is every time right, Like so I'm just claiming my thoughts. I'm sorry, just work with me. Every time they killed like the Santana right, and it's always like was the

sense was that right? I do? That makes sense? Like I get the concept of never showing weakness, right, I get the concept of never shown weakness, But if Antenna is like saying some real ship about the situation, like bro, you know what I mean? Like but every movie they end up killing Santana. It's about money, though, and that's what I think it has to be. I mean, because Santana is talking about trying to prioritize bettering, you know, LASSI and stuff like that, getting our guys out and

keeping them out and that type of thing. And peg Leg is like, we're getting this coin, we're gonna bread. And when you think about it, in both movies, right in both movies, the white boy fucked everything up because we're about that bread. Your motherfucker brings us to the motherfucking podcast conversations here, conversations with a white man telling you.

I mean, it's a good thing. That's not a Jewish mafia and ship that's because they out of prison, they'd be they'd be financing other races right now they are right now, and they're because they'd be like man. And that's the thing I'm not apologizing because I'm not Nick Cannon mixed my boy. I love Nick. Nick getting too much paper with y'all. I'm extremely pro Jewish for the record, though, just what I I make my shots, but I have an enormous amount of respect for the way that they operate.

And if you look at to me the way I look at groups of people on how to me, crews are just groups of individuals. They keep all the individuals in their community very tight, very disciplined, very educated, very smart with their personal finance. All that. They don't make mistakes, They don't have a lot of fun. They just are after it at all times and it shows. And I

respect they for sure about the coin. But see, my problem is when anybody is too in love with the coin, I don't trust them, like right now, feel me like it's entirely too many black people talking about generational wealth, right, I don't trust niggas whennigga start talking about generational wealth. I don't think people really understand the fact that it requires poor people for you to be wealthy. It's like a requirement. I mean, it's you can't have one without

the other. It ain't a bunch of rich motherfucker's nowhere on the planet. It's gonna be poor if it's a bunch. If it's somebody that's super wealthy, it's somebody entirely too poor. That's true and every facet. And it's because I don't nobody need all that fucking money. Hold the fuck needs all of the fucking money, for sure. But as long as we live in a fundamentally transactional society, I have a hard time demonizing wealth. I'm demonizing wealth for sure.

I'm actually looking at you quite like satan. That's good, that's healthy, that makes me feel more comfortable. No, no, not you, because you're not all right, You're not. You're not. But if I said that's because of the Celtics, had anybody that's talking about anybody who puts money too high on a priority list, scary for me, it's scary because that ain't really to end all, be all in what you have to do to be a money Yeah, think about it, like if you Amazon, right, I think like

who the fund just needs all this money? Why? Yeah? Control? Yeah, I mean who needs all this money? You can't do nothing but evil things with all this money. I don't give me And Charlotte magn Couse argue about this all the time. He has a thing where he says compassionate capitalism. Niggad, there's nothing compassionate about profit. I don't know what he means about that. There is, of course there is, of course,

that's not snow fucking such thing. It's compassionate capitalism. Capitalism is not at the not at the share root of capitalism, you know. So we start talking about capitalism because we're not talking about the fundamental, basic concept of profit, you know, what's talk about. But like to me, the the blemishes

on capitalism, our deviations from the market system. It's it's when capitalism becomes less capitalist that it becomes bad and it becomes exploitative, because that's when you start to have government intervene. And government is nothing but brute force. At the end of the day. You can be a regulation with a fine. It can it can act like it's not brute force. If you don't pay the fine, believe me, at some point it's gonna become brute force. Yeah. I

mean all Amazon does. Amazon it's a lot of money, and then lobbies their competition into obscurity via the government to help mitigate their risk of ever losing a dollar. I don't have a problem with them escalating to a trillion plus dollar entity. I have a problem with them shutting the door behind them with the full force of the federal government. Whole thing the door closed. But but they hold the door closed with taxes. Taxes is one

of the coldest wealth controllers ever. Event it, I like to hold it close with regulations, income emparious ventry even I think that may be for us, like taxes is crazy. I'll get your personal example. Well, think about taxes. Talking about tax in California. If I made two million this year, right like let own a verse this year, I'm probably gonna end up making in twelve months, I'm probably gonna make like one point seven taxes on that ship. It's

more than half, of course it is. That's how could nigger. But you're gonna have to write all that ship down? Bro, Why would you even ask for this? Why you know who asked for this? Socialists? No, no, no, socialists can't ask for it. Of course they can't. No. No socialists means somebody is supposed to do by other people. Nobody asks you for it. It's you supposed to want to give. I don't want to give my money to the government.

I would rather give my money to Mook California. But all the socialists voted for you to give the money to the government. No, no no, I'm a socialist. They're not socialists. I don't know what the people are. I'm a socialist because I want to do right by my people. Nobody. I don't need no motherfucking body telling me to do right by my people. That you're not a socialist, you're something more of a philanthropist. No, I'm not a philanthropist,

that's no. No, I'm a humanitarian. Sure, whatever, he's a potato, I'll call a potato. It's it's different, it's different. Socialism is a government mechanism. California is full of socialists who, for some odd bizarre reason, trust Gavin Newsom way more than they trust Jeff Ba looks slick as a mother. I'll be like bro every time Gavin Bro every time Gavin be talking, because I'll be why. I feel like

he talking me out of something. You know who else made me feel like that master motherfucking people pee, because makes me feel like he's talking me out of everything. Anytime he talked. It's like I'm always waiting on a hitch every time Master Pete talk. And I'm tired of hearing the homies had these conversations because talking about what person were making rich, Well, we made this white man. I'm not trying to make none of you motherfucker's rich.

I'm trying to buy the product that you are selling me. My goal is to make sure all my partners eat. We all eat. We can all eat the same thing. Our places could all have the same thing. I don't need to know more than nobody else. I actually don't like things that separate me based off money. I like things. If I do want to be separated, it's because I was willing to read more or learn more about something

like we like. I would rather have the best eight seven cutlass in the world than have a car that only one person could afford. I want the car that we all have. But I just did my ship better because my color combo was better because I took those extra boats out. I want you know what I mean? So I am a socialist. We can all have a D seven colors. Mine's gonna be better because I care more. You're not a socialist because socialists are a top down apparatus.

You're a humanitarian philanthropist because it's in your heart. Ah, motherfucker, motherfucker. Socialism is an intermediary. You don't need an intermediary. You your your free choices. I can provide a million people with the product they want. They can all give me ten dollars a piece, and I can go give eight dollars of that to all the people that I care about.

That's not socialism, that's free choice, philanthropy, philanthropic humanitarianism. Yeah, I guess you heard what the white boy said, and the white man is always but but god damn that that irritates me. I just feel like, don't nobody need all this fucking money. I don't nobody need all this fucking money. It's motherfucker's with two kids that got thirty bedroom. It's it's billionaires peacocking against other billionaires, bro, for what effectively.

So my thing is, I'm not saying the government should come in and say, hey, I'm just saying what type of human being could have billions of dollars? And no other people are starting? Here's the thing, here's the thing, how bro, if you finna get put out your house, and I know you're finna get put out your house, bro, and I don't come do nothing. I got a million dollars, Bro, I'm not shipped. The reality to me is, save a few examples, most every billion dollar operation in American history

is sears waiting to happen. Mmmm. That's fucked up, not serious I'm dead ass serious. Why is it serious waiting to serious? Why is a series? Why is the series waiting to happen? Because in a true market, because nobody can innovate that long three sixty. Once you innovate and you stick up, you're a You're a beacon. You are a lighthouse for everybody who wants to make a nickel to see. And it's very easy for people to aim

at you and hit home. At some point, you can't defend against the entire intellectual capacity of the whole marketplace at all times indefinitely unless you prevent them from getting at you. Hm m m. That's that's a that's a fact ship And that's what you're seeing now with the Amazon Google. Amazon's got a great infrastructure, but it was made possible by an awful lot of backdoor dealings. But by and large, if my thing is even with Amazon, they don't pay enough. And nobody has a right to

say that, right, because it's it's your choice. But God damn man, Well, like God damn, let me ask the question, like what what what is wrong with human beings? Pete listen as a white man, right, as a white man, give me your widest concepts. Right, This is like, I'll be honest with you, I can understand slavery like moderately seasons chicken or like whier than that. I'm not white people don't moderately seasoned chickens. That we ain't gonna skip over.

We ain't gonna skip over that. You said slaver I can. I'm gonna tell you why I could understand slavery. We we're not. I'm I'm gonna focus on that I can understand slavery. You gotta think like truly what slavery was, right, America didn't go to Africa to get slaves, Like that's an overstated concept. The reality was all these different countries right is Spain, right, England, Dutch Netherlands, all of these people have like imagine like the ups of slave trading countries,

like slave trading companies. They have the ups and the FedEx and DHL of slave trading. So these countries right are going to Africa, right to the to the to the Gold Coast, right to the western coast of Africa. They're purchasing slaves to the point it's so popping that they are building ports and posts at the edge of the countries that's where they do they deals at. And so they're coming to buy slaves, right, all these different countries, not as a country, but private entities that can't be

funded by the country sometimes, but it's private entities. And they're like, Okay, we're gonna body slaves cheap, and then we're gonna drop, We're gonna we're gonna sell around and we're gonna get them off. We'll get these niggas off. We're gonna buy I'm by ten niggas, right by ten niggas for Iraq. Let me get ten for Iraq ten four thousand. Pail that off for me East ten four thousand. Now you gotta slave ship. No, no, this whole set,

that's buy a niggas wholesale. See, that's not America. America was the last one to have a slave trade company, if they had one, because I think they was even a flop in the what do you call it the supply chain. It's same as cocus, Like you can go buy it from Colombia or you can go buy it from the Bronx in New York. You're gonna get a mark up. And this is what happened, so right, So okay,

so I'm buying tien four thousand. Oh, I'm stopping at a couple of posts right posting Nigerias sentigal right out, that's wholesale niggers, the wholesale thousand there. So now we flowing, feel me. We got a hundred on the boat. We ain't spent ten racks. It's a hundred on the boat. We're gonna lose something because this is my trip long passage. That's why it wholesale prices. Could be some little funny ship going on, right, So feeding we got them under there,

they stopped up under that motherfucker like scarface. Seven. We lose one in nine loads. There you go, that's fucked up. Use one of nine lost because I got some ships went a little more. But I'm saying right, but I'm saying so, let's say you lose twenty out of a hundred, dived off the side. You got eight, right, so now you still now the trip right, the crew permits, Let's say the whole trip fifteen racks, and you got to pay these nigga that's on the boat to the ones

that's doing the work. Just trying to hold niggas down. They hate nasks. So you want the whole ship fifteen racks. You only got eighty niggas, So now you're trying to sell them. Now you go to the southern parts of America. You ain't getting them off for top dollar. Niggas only want to pay to fifty down there at the closest island. You might be right now, right so so so right now you gotta be more because now you gotta break

it down a eight niggas. You're fifteen thousand into the trip, right, fifteen thousand trip, that breakdown to about that's almost a hundred seventy five a nigga. Okay, right, you up in them for one seventy five including paying the staff that's been on this boat. No, so now you're like that ain't enough. We've been going a month or two. That ain't enough. So they're stopping at every island, right, they stopping all these islands, but niggas ain't really breaking red.

They finally come over here that got these crazy fields, and niggas is breaking bread. Niggas like I got faux hunted. I got faux hunted for every one of these motherfucker's. Then they're getting them off the boat for foul hunted. Then they retelling them for six hunted. Right, dig this don't let you have some skills like you're craftsman, you know how to do something that's a rack, but you already bought them whole sale. So when I say I understand slavery, I get the concept of it. I think

slavery was normal around the whole world. The problem with these motherfucker's here, and I think America's problem in general, it was entirely too many poor people that have slaves. So wait, wait, wait wait wait rewind Yeah, you said it was poor people guys, because that wasn't a good enough price. How you sell a nigga for six hundred right now? I think that's like what five thousand? I think that's probably a fair amount more than that? Is it more? I can't remember what it said, was a

foreigner or four or six hundred? The retail price was six hundred. The retail price on niggas was six hundred. Trust me, I've seen. I was just after they did. They had a whole room about that at the at the Lorraine Hotel music. It was six It was six hundred, six hundo for six hund Check on your phone, check check what the check up, what the inflation is from that? So that's that's sixteen sixteen fifty, so the inflation. Look at how much money that is today? So you buy

a nigga, right and you get him free labor forever forever. Yeah, that's why, that's why I understand that that's not the value. The value is that you get a male and a female one and you're not buying too to have you to breathe. But what's the inflation though? Is it going that far back? That's the point. The point I'm saying is so right, you pay thousand, four hundred forty six broke motherfucker to get a slave, right now? Thousand they

findancing that right now? For sure, you find it then, But I'm saying you could you could, You could find that then they are collateral the very few slave owners. But you're missing the point of what I'm saying. The problem was entirely too many poor slave owners. See, poor people don't know how to treat ship. They don't know how to treat ship. They don't know how to treat ship. They used to have none, you know, the Kings in England, they wasn't like that to the slaves. They was used

to having things. Yeah, feel me. You give somebody who ain't had nothing something, they get a superiority complex. They start tripping. They ain't never been over nobody in their life. And then you give them another human being and say you are over this person's existence. It ain't really that deep, for sure, it is deep to motherfucker's that don't understand what you're saying. Feel me right now, you mean to tell me at thirteen thousand, that's poor money, that's poor

a poor person. Again, it's not pete. You could finance them right now for thirteen thousand. Who wouldn't have a slave for thirteen thousand? They every card. Next body find has thirteen thousands, they find its car. That's too cheap. See was the mistake was how cheap they was. And they allowed a bad quality of person to own slaves. See that's the thing about people in America. They tend to pervert ship. Slavery was an alright concept around the world.

It was fucked up, but it wasn't as fucked up here. They got them here and then these motherfucking poor ass motherfucker's start feeling like big Man on campus and mistreating motherfucker's and and and and and and I think mentally, this is what I thought about Pete. You wasn't bigger than cause, so you had to play mental games to have power overcause. For sure, I was under the presson that there were not that many poor slave owners. I could be wrong. That's a lot because the South was

all poor. It was like a third world country. You had concentrations of extreme wealth that owned huge plantations, a huge inventories of slaves. But but you know that that's the point. Before they had huge inventories and slave they wasn't wealthy. Slavery was the goal rush. Slavery was cryptocurrency. It made I don't know what point in time we're talking about it. We could be talking sixteen fifty or eighteen fifth, about fifteen been into six I'm talking about

coming into the slave across the trans tidbit. Just for like the definition of America. If there are two words that make America unique among based practically every other country, at least to its point in history where it existed, it is the birthplace of new money. That's that's the only thing that makes America cool. Yeah, that's bad, and make it bad. See in England. If you ain't noble, think you're not coming up like that. You gotta be either uber talented or no or noble blood. See, they

came to America. That's the thing that pissed me off to how you leave this motherfucker from mistreatment. You come over here, Mr you become the motherfucking oppressor. Yeah, that's fucked up. And I mean, don't get me wrong. They do as best as a wealthy motherfucker could when it comes to making sure other motherfucker's got ship. But they don't do a great That's why I'm an outlaw. That's why I planged my life to be an outlaw. It's

not off ignorance. It's because I don't trust these motherfucker's sense of justice. My sense of justice is a thousand times better. I would never beat a slave. If I bought slaves right now, I would figure out how to control them. You gotta take my faith, Champ. I'm not pulling nobody TV Like, look at all the mental gag because they just couldn't whoop them, because they couldn't fight them. And in most you know, it was in the immediate locale outnumbered. But but my point is I agree, right,

but I'm saying not at first. Yeah. See see you're talking about with slave fully booming, thinking I'm thinking that up. No I'm talking about well, no, we're talking about already booming booming. But no, I'm saying that's the problem. See, like when people say the proverbia white man, because they're talking about they don't know they're talking about a very greedy person, right, who really has more than they need.

But just now, I always tell my partners, like the people that talk about generational wealth, the people who are wealthy to that degree don't even care about money. That's not what's driving them. What's driving them is passionate and dominant or something else, like they're they're trying to dominate something else. Yeah, I think the money is it is a validation. It's like it's like I did this. Yeah, Like I mean, like I said, even for my own self, Like obviously, yes, I want a lot of money. What

the money is. I don't need to spend a lot of money. If I made fifty dollars of years or about myself, I'm happy, But I want the validation that intellectually I was able to catch you know, catch traction in the competitive environment defined by money. And if I get a lot of money, it unequivocally validates the fact that I can music called motherfucker against all the other cold motherfucker's. I'm the cod I walked, I walked out of the top five coded you know what I mean.

I don't listen. You don't need that much money and back to my point. I got back to my point. That's what drove people fucked up. You feel me like, you gotta think how bad you're your your your right here man, your business as a slaver had to be. Once you start getting too many slaves. It's like, how fund up McDonald's food is. Now? Eventually you need quality? Right the other day McDonald's never sucked up the frogs Now, all of a sudden you come that ship burnt, bro

stop playing. I hate that. I have to go to McDonald like, hey, make my ship fresh. Now I have to explain. So my problem is the problem with slavery, right, I'm I respected everybody in this world, in the free world, has slaves for you know early right, they all have slaves. The problem is when you start allowing poor people to get something right. And I'm all for poor people, property. But I'm saying, when you allowed them to have that kind of problem, you know, the exactly you just was on.

That's how it was with the E D D. That's what the problem is in the concept of new money. When you when you don't go from having zero to two hundred thousand, it's going to be tacky moments. Yeah. I mean as far as like the generational wealth conversation, everybody talking about it, Yeah, don't all that. I don't even fun with that. Anybody talking about generational wealth. I just literally log off mentally. It's like, stop telling people

that people need to be so people like the sound cool. Yeah, but that's a horrible expression. You don't you don't need general rational wealth, like but you cant here. I'll put it this way personally, I look around and I see a a culture, part of which includes like a built

in like mismanagement of personal finance. If you want to start the conversation and start aiming for generational wealth and if that cleans up your personal finance so that you're living better and that you can to some degree help your kids live better, I'm all for that. But but you don't need generational wealth to do that. It depends on your definition of generational wealth. It's a good point. So again, when we're talking about some of these words capitalism,

generational wealth, we're always talking extreme. Okay, well, I'm listening to people tell me I need Tim million dollars to me and you don't even know what to do with him million dollars. Any generational wealth to me is some measure of a surplus that you can pass down to the people after you and your family, that can give them a leg up so they can do the same for theirs. But even that's overstated. I'm not saying you

should don't. That's not what I'm trying to say. Like I respected with Jackie Chance said the other day, right when you're a parent, when you disagree with that, what so Jackie chan he statement, you gotta look it up. I forgot he was talking about his son, so I don't want to misquote him. So I give you kind of rough with the idea. He said he's leaving his fortune. It's three hundred and fifty million dollar fortune, right, which is probably not that kind of money, but you get

the concept. He's leaving his wealth is probably a lot. He's got probably a huge Asian market. He's leaving his wealth to charity, which I respect because in theory, right, funked up, right, because back to the beggar conversation, that money is never hitting the people that needed, but the thought of it charity. If you research your charity, well there are some and Jackie don't know. And Jackie don't know. He's not supposed because he's not from the life, so

he don't know. But his heart is in the right place. Story short. So he says, he says, Um. They kept asking why would he leave it to his kid? He said, um, he said, if like, like he's been a father, I've raised my kids, he said, if I did, if he actually turns out to be right, he'll make his own money. But if he's not right, he'll just sunk off mind. That's absolutely true. And like to me, I like how you just said that, and like how people say that.

I hate that. Why the fuck would you need to if you were three hundred million dollars, Dudelet's say you got three hundred million cash and you've been in your son's life this whole time, raising him, helping him with every opportunity. Jackie Chance son down there, forty years old, he should be straight. I've been raising him in this lifestyle well the whole time. He should be straight. Most people who make that kind of me on their own see their kid about an hour a year. But that's

not the point. I'm saying. You've had all the privileges and advantages to succeed in right, he should be straight. So my point is, why the fuck do you need all this fucking money. Don't you had this motherfucker get that money to somebody who didn't. Yeah, I got no zero problems. Right, That's the one thing I'm not saying you shouldn't leave your kids something. Man, Jackie Chance kid probably got a grip. He'd been raising him. He'd been

raising I'll the truth. You know who that helps. Really, it's not Jackie Chance kid or whatever he's in the middle that makes Jackie Chance grandson far more likely to be a good person and a productive citizen. It's not really usually going to be that first generation out. It's

their kids that turning the funk up. Speak us. If you're if you grew up in a house and you saw your parents really really really crushing it, typically you're gonna have some expectation of what it takes for the money to get there, you at least have some respect for it. But when you grew up and you just saw it all there, and you didn't see what it took for it to get there. Because now you're a degree removed, you don't get it. You don't appreciate whatever.

You're gonna fuck it off and yourself. And that's why Jackie said what he said, because he sees that already totally, and he's already prepared for that, and that's why he said what he said. So my thing is it as a community, as a human being. Right, Let's let's it's hard to pour race, but let's pour race off of it. Let's just talk about doing right by other human beings. Right, if I if I raised my son, if I had a son and I raised him in a really great situation.

You've lived in this great neighborhood your whole life. I've been helping you start your own businesses. I put you to college, has spend millions of dollars, Like them white people that paid two million to get their kids in the school that cost two hundred just to make a brag about the edge of the degree. Feel me. So if I've done all of these things for your life. Help you start your own business, whatever failure fail your business. That is, I got you in your own place. I'm

helping you do that. Nick. In theory, I should have to leave you the bare minimum of money. This money should go to people who didn't have Jackie Chan as a fucking father. Yeah. I better. So here's the here's the one thing I want to know what reply with. So this is the thing about this trip, I actually being Tori spelling exactly. It's a great point. Who didn't get the money and just was salty? Is all ship? But did his son even trip? No, but they haven't

haven't seen statements from his son. But his son also got caught selling weed. I believe a singer. The coldest thing for me is that I believe I believe his son understands that concept. I mean, because if you haven't came out publicly, are already tripping. I think somewhere people think somebody told me they feel like you actually go make I think this is something that Dame Dash said. Dame said, man, I hustle for my last name, now my first name, and somewhere I got lost that you're

supposed to go hard for your kids. That's not true. You're supposed to go hard because you're breathing fucking air. You're supposed to be so submerged in your passion and your gift from the world that that's integral. You're supposed to try to be the best human being you can be because you're breathing air, and your kids should benefit from how great and awesome of a person you were. You don't need to vicariously create reasons to go hard. Wake up and get to it. And I know it's

a challenge. I won't say with us because I know our circumstance said you know in the community, like when you grew up, how we grew up, Pete feel me and I'm not. I don't want to make it that much different because you grew up twenty minutes where I grew up. But short drive world away, the whole world away again, short drive world away, one of those like like the moon, one small step from man, one giant lead from mankind. That's truth. It's truth is the truth.

So I'm saying somewhere we get lost that, oh, I need to go hard for this person. I gotta kiss, I gotta go hard, bitch, nigger. You've been needed to go hard. You can't go hard for yourself. I think you breathe in air. That's the equat when a person cold. Motherfucker. And it would always be come around that time, with that special time of year of personal New Year's resolution season.

If some girl who was overweight would hit me up, Hey, I want you to be my trainer, and it's December three, but I want to wait till after New Year to that, I'd be like, no, I'm not gonna train you because you're not serious. If you're not ready to actually do something today, you're not serious. But but because, but that's because so I understand. I'm not saying I get our situations from when you come from where we come from. It's so much defeat. It's so many obstacles, there's so

many distractions. I always tell Sticks this, my boy, Sticks from Watts, got the Uh think Watts. It's this foundation, Yeah, for sure, So think Watson's foundation. And um, he was trying to He wanted to institute an economic class in Watts. He wanted to teach people about money. And I'm like, I said, that's cool, Sticks, but I think we should

figure out how to get people money first. Well, if you get them money first and they don't know about it, I'm like, yeah, but if you try to teach somebody something that don't even seem possible, you know what I mean, I'd be demorl say I want to learn how to invest? Invest what? Invest what? And we had this big debate about it. I'm like, bro, it's it's the distraction is when when you like, I don't think most people are stupid. I think most people are distracted. Most people are incapable

of learning. They don't got time. Most people group think because their life is so filled right there space their mental space of of of being able to think. You know, it's so small, right, So they have to go by based off other people's opinion. Because they're waking up, taking their kids of school, they're waking up getting shot at, They're waking up and can't pay their gas bill. They

gas ain't No. They gotta think of a thousand other things outside of these things, so group thought becomes simple. I'm going to rely on other people to come up with my opinion, my emotions. Oh, I've seen this case that happened with Macaya Bryant. Everybody else mad I'm gonna be mad too. I'm not even gonna take the time to look at the video and formulate an opinion. I don't have time. I'm distracted by life. I'm way too busy. I don't have time to think about something critically. I

don't have that time. I'm not afforded. It's a luxury to be able to think. That don't seem like it's true, cousin, But on seven story crypt that is true. It's a luxury to be able to think. Why come from you? A lot of homies can't think. They gotta react. You have to react saying you'll pay attention right now thinking, Just like intellect is a gift, thinking is a luxury.

It's a luxury, man. It don't even seem like because the people that the people that are afforded it, you know, the wealthy people that have the intellectual wealth, or the or the or the time wealth. It's it's it's so in abundance that you don't really even think that thinking it's time. Most black people, most sisters that come from Way to Compton, they're not preparing their kids to go off and you know, pass down the business and go off to college and get this career. They're half they

have two goals. Keep him out of jail, graduated high school. I mean, look, I look at my a man that that that was preaching on. What's this a monday? You know? Because even looking at myself right, if I'm if I gotta work ten hours a day, right, just to go to work, that's ten hours on my day. I gotta sleep at some point, right, think about it, I would have to sleep at some point. So what are we saying? Do I need to sleep? I need what? So if

we do that, that's eighteen hours already gone. We ain't talking about travel time right, So travel time is one hour where I go one hour back, So that's twenty hours already on my day. So I got four hours to do? What with you? Just to be a father of three kids? Talk to him of more kids him four hours? I got four hours to do that. I

told I've been helping. I've been helping the giants, right, playing Hamsuns on God and they don't take time to but I've been talking to I've been helping play Hamsuns, right, I helped him. I'm like, bro, let me get you all your own label. I'm gonna help you'all start your own label. I'm gonna show you how to do this right. And I'm like, okay, look, I'm gonna take this oural. I really don't have a litt business putting our business out there, but I thought it was fair, right, I'm like, yeah,

I'm gonna market y'all. Ship. All you have to do is produce the record and help me market it. I'm going to market it. I will advance money on marketing everything. Dog. When I tell you the time for them to think and to understand what I'm saying, it's so minute. Because Joey is working at a place where he's really an essential, right. He works at a place where they literally put all together. They they're responsible for the grocery distribution that's going to

all the stories. So he has to pack all these forklifts to go to all these stories. Time, so he's there ten to twelve hours a day, right, He's there ten to twelve hours a day half the day, right, So then he needs somebody's father. His travel time is two hours hour to two hours a day, four hours, and I'm pressing him like, hey, bro, y'all need to

take time to figure out how we're gonna market. You need to figure out how to produce this video because if you don't, you need to have enough money to pay somebody else to do this fourteen hours and you want me to do that. You're talking about a per day schedule. But you know, so dig this. So this is what I told him, and this is what I would tell you. And it's fucked up to tell somebody this, right,

it's fucked up to tell usbody this. You have enough time in a day, right, especially somebody intelligent you like you move. You got enough time in a day to do your job, to be a parent, to be a husband. The problem is if you actually put the extra foot forward to handle your business, you just won't have time for you. That's who you have to remove time from. So so so so I'm glad you said that because I need the world to understand that that's what the

expectation is. But that's somebody for you. No no, no, no, no, no no time. But but it is the time. But that's why I said, if you But this is why I said, it can't be That's why it can't be about money. It can't be about have to be about passion, because like like Pete said, he's right about that. That time has to be for you. You have to love what you're doing so much, and that's how you can make that at the time. Yes, that that's how you can do that. But you gotta think, like I always say,

you can't make time. And this is why I told you earlier. I'm glad I love going to work, Brocuse, See if I didn't love going to work, I can't even consider none of this ship you're talking about. Because see now I love that, right, I love going to work and I love this. Yeah, so guess what, it's all me time. But but see now it's my family time, is me time, me coming to do this is me time and tired. It don't feel the same. That's why

it's the happiest guy that I know. It don't feel This is just the happiest guy that I know when he's happy all goddamn day every day. He submerged. It don't feel the same now, that's what we're saying. Though it don't feel the same to me. My life don't feel the same no more. You see what I'm saying that because at first I was going to jobs I didn't like and I just out to go. Then when it comes to ship, I like, I was too tired to do it because I'm too tired. But now I'm

at work thinking about this type of ship. You know, it's just what I'm saying. Now I'm at work, I'm like, man, I'm right bad. And this is the co part and this and this goes back to the point of being a white man. Pete. The brothers love to produce the content, and we're the most creative motherfucker's on the planet in theory, right, we could do everything runs fat jump, I figure out to make ship, all kind of ship. The reason that the white man, the proverbial white man, makes more of

the money, it's because really the hard work is in marketing. Yeah, marketing, monetization, the business model. That's that's the that's the ugly, gritty work that's so miserable as work. I can get Joe induced per se to get in the studio and make a song, but to have them take time to mark get it feel me, that's the problem. So what happens is you get these artists right who just want to make se These they just want to make albums, They just want to make songs. They don't want to get

into marketing. I guess a thousand niggas saying they're independent, but they're not spending their own money, nor do they know how to actually market. They don't even know what marketing is. People think marketing is either promotional advertising. They think it's that simple publicity all of me, I need a publicist. It's like, what are you taking public? This song? Songs don't need to be public. What are you taking public? You don't take a song public, take brands public. Right,

So it's a tough out, you know what I'm saying. So, and it's hard for me because even in that particular situation, right, I'm saying here, I'm gonna help y'all do this. I'm gonna help you got y'all because y'all can make records really well. But now if they need me to do more, guess what I'm like, bro, if have to dedicate hours upon hours upon hours of marketing, y'all ship man at

a record label, pete right at a record label. Because if it's a thousand people that work in that building, nine work in the marketing department, there's not a motherfucker at the record label. Whether it's universal deaf jam interscope. There's not a motherfucking there that make beats. There's not a motherfucking there that right hooks or right songs. There's not a motherfucker that mixing master and engineer. The closest thing that's at a record label that they have to

do that they have something to do with album. They don't even have a motherfucker that takes pictures. They have a motherfucker who puts graphics on the cover. That's it. That's all they can do. When it comes to a CD. They can print the CD. They actually don't even print the CD. They take that to somebody else. They have a motherfucker who put graphics on the artwork. They don't even take the picture. M Yeah, So that means the whole building is dedicated to marketing, marketing and illegal. It

ain't even an attorney that working at motherfucker. Oh you're not there, you feel what I'm saying. Everybody works in the marketing department. So it's a tough out. It's a tough out. And and and that's something that the proverbial white man understands. I mean, he understands the business and infrastructure of things like again. We we look right at we look at America like it's just their far for slavery. We're mad at America. Were mad at chap As, y'all

was Nika. They was just buying niggas at the whole selling retail. We're not cussing out Spain. All these holes want to fly to Spain and see the uh the fucking Eiffel Tower. They're not mad at Spain for having that slave trade company. They want to go to the Netherlands and afterdam and smoked they weed. They're not mad at their motherfucker's who probably had one of the biggest slave trade companies. They want to go to all these different countries. Holes always want to travel and be up

in these mother crackers faces. Feel me, all these crackers faces, and these motherfucker's as guilty as the motherfucker's. Y'all hate here, but you don't know that because you don't got enough fucking time to think. M hm. And then they called me crazy and called me a north All because because I got time to think, I've always made forced time to think. I will I won't ignore you to think you'll be talking They're gonna be talking to me and

then they'll be talking. I'd be like, I'm thinking to me, that's like what I was saying before podcast. I don't want to date anymore. I want to buy my time back. That's what I do when I when I spend ten dollars on a cigar, it's not that I want ten dollars a cigar. That is ten dollars that I'm paying

for ninety minutes to think. I on a cul de sac in the San Fernando Valley, in our leader behind the five freeway fifteen football in this grimy barrio cul de sac, parked there, got outside of my ave Maria and fucking smoked for eighty minutes and thought, m and it was the best. And I bought that ship online the best four dollars fifty since I ever spending my fucking life beautiful, And there's and like there's always, But that's again, that's my metime. My meat time. Isn't I

need to go do whatever the fuck? That's my meat time. Like if whatever you're, whatever you're that's the thing. People like to talk about their priorities extremely dishonestly. Whatever your priorities are are going to show, you don't need to tell me what they are. If your priorities are I really am about that bag, really, then why are you talking to me? Because it looks like your priorities are socializing. I'm I'm I'm gonna reach for a five on now.

So it's a lot of chit chat and not a lot of you know, get at Yeah, don't get at what you're talking about. It's a lot of chit chat, but not enough get at chit chat, get at you know, like a great example, like I made some little page of ship money I got off of the little uh government crap. How many people went on for fox sake, for for a world that was closed from travel. I never seen more trips taken in the last year than

in the year my goddamn miserable life. I don't know a bit and been on fifteen trips in the last nine months. Let's see. Favorite thing. I bought a bus down section eight apartment building in North Memphis. I'm up over a hundred some percent to nearly twenty five grand in crypto, and that's gonna double in the next fucking six months. I'm putting more down. I'm probably gonna leverage the first building for a second building. Do you know how many trips I've been on. Oh, zero, zero trips,

that's right. Zero. I went to Vegas a few times so that I could hold up with some better WiFi, to do better work, and open some and open an LLC out of state so I could avoid taxes a little bit. But you know, when I go to Vegas Tuesday. You know when you go to Vegas Saturday, my hotel rooms eighteen dollars. Yours is a hundred and eighteen dollars. You spend money all goddamn day. I work all goddamn day. When I'm out there, I'm at the government building filling

out paperwork. You're at the fucking aria filling out paperwork because you got a drink bill signed the White Man