Conversations On A Tuesday

Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No Sealer's podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your load glasses, Malone?

What's that name?

Got me?

What do you mean I got you?

I don't know what to make of anything anymore?

What you confused about.

All?

It?

All?

It?

I don't even want to know what that means, because I would imagine that means something crazy.

No, No, I don't live a crazy live a crazy life.

You don't live a crazy life.

No. No, pretty simple, very very very simple. Just trying to corral small, tiny little bits of money and just you know, get a couple more of them. That's about it about it?

Low.

Did you go out of town? Were you in Colorado or something?

I was in Denver?

Gotcha? How'd that go?

It was cool.

I went out there Thursday because I had to do some extra hustling for Friday, and then the concert was Saturday, and I left Sunday morning at seven in the morning, like La. So I left Thursday night on Frontier and which the plane was two or three hours late, where I had mechanical issues.

I'm extremely familiar with that process, as you know.

Yeah, I didn't know I'm sleeping on Frontier.

I spent more time on the frontier than David Crockett.

Yeah, fuck man, anyway.

Under Daniel boone of aviation.

So I leave out.

I get there at night, I end up doing one rap song for somebody, and then I go to the hotel and I go to sleep. Friday, when I wake up, I end up just getting a little extra sleep because I've been stressed crazy, just been going through it. I think yesterday, Coach, you know, made a lot of sense to me. Like I've been dealing with a problem with my business m hm, and it's threatening the ownership of you know, a lot of my songs pretty much my whole catalog, and it's been stressing me out over the

Sure?

Sure, yeah awesome, And.

Like it had me so stressed out, man, like all my shoulders, my back being tense, Like I've just been really going through it. And it's only because like somebody I trust is at the hest that you know, somebody I trust it is at the front of it, and I feel like the way they're dealing with it is just not cool. And it's like if you would think, like, you know, people know I've made sacrifices on having children. You know, part of the initial thing was I was

So it's like it's not a cool way.

And then as I do more homework on a person, like everything coming back has been horrible and still is just going on with his life like it's all good, like you know what I mean, Like he might make a phone call, but he's at his job, he's with his wife, he's on his kids game, he's you know, celebrating his anniversaries, like this means that I won't make any more money off of my catalog, you know what I mean?

And so to me, it's so serious.

And if I was, you know, you know, managing an artist and this was I couldn't even sleep without fixing it. I couldn't do anything else without fixing it, especially if it's somebody that I've known for twenty years, you know what I mean, I be doing everything in my power to protect that relationship and to make sure that this person didn't lose everything. And I would still be talking

And can I ask, like what's the contractual? I mean it has to be some for a contractual conflict the legal.

So like, so I did a.

It's a couple of companies that have been, you know, licensing catalogs to sink to sink. You know, they've been they've been licensing catalogs so they could sink them and look for opportunities. So they advance you money based off your future royalties and the goal is for them to make you know, a lot of money and take into a profit share with you because you have this amount of songs and.

They would like you're effectively borrowing out the equity in the music, and they assume that the it's going to earn itself back with appreciation at minimum.

Yeah, you know what I mean. But the goal for them is to make more money.

And still brought it to me as this is somebody that I'm friends with, and I'm thinking, I'm coming to the realization that's probably not true.

Like he knows the person, but you know, even the person who.

He met him through, right, was like I verified with certain people and they're like, now this dude that's doing the deal is very questionable.

Like he's done some really questionable things.

So it's put me in a situation where I have to go behind and check everything and it's like everything has been bad, and it got to the point to where, you know, I was ready to do something, you know, very glasses love thing from Seth.

I wouldn't want to be the guy taking your catalog from him.

Yeah, and I'm on the verge of doing I was on the verge yesterday of doing some very glasses love thing, some things that shout out to my older homies that I've been trained to do when people play with me, sure you know what I mean, And I haven't seen it in so long, like people trying to play with me and thinking it's okay, and yeah, it's just been a journey and it's been stressing me out. So yesterday I was going in to box, you know, you know, going to work out box those mans and it was

What's the name of this outfit?

I don't quite know. I got to look at the contract. I know that's weird because they his people.

I don't know.

I have had a some exposure to a similar business model from a company called song Vest.

You know it's not that though, Okay.

That's got no selings live or look, excuse me, no seilings, not live, no seilings lasses Lowe.

The boss working through some stuff, so.

Like it's to the point now where I barely like still is barely gonna answer my cause you know what I mean, Like his job is now so important that he cannot talk to me. It's like, you know, forty eight hours at this point, you know what I mean, Like every promise has been broken and you know, from the company, and there is really no effort to kind of keep me cool. And normally that is usually a.

Sign of disrespect, and it is a sign of disrespect. I mean to me.

Now, maybe in the regular world it's not a sign of disrespect, but in my world, it's a sign of disrespect, you know what I'm saying. So my immediate thing is to do something to the man respect. I don't know who the person is or what they look like, so I can't find them. So the next thing is I just go burn this house down and then they'll know I'm not playing. So I got the address from a buddy of minees that that we all know, and shout

And something he he said.

I don't quite know what it was specifically, but when I left the gym, I still was on the verge of going right. I was going to get a gas can, going to you know, do the thing, and right when I got to the freeway, his words just kept.

Going back and back over my head, dog like in my ear, in my ear, in my ear. It was like God's testing you, like you know, God is testing you.

And the more I thought about it, I was explaining to somebody that God has been testing me and I know it. Like right, I went through the same thing when I was about to put out white lighting in one.

And like the CD was doing good.

It was making noise, but it hadn't quite hit radio to start kicking up dust like I think maybe one station might have played it, and it was an opportunity for me to make a play on five gallons of PCP for sure, or people call it dust five gallons, right, And that play would have bought me an extra ten thousand dollars to survive, right because at that point, I'm living in Lynnwood.

Shout out to mister hood rest in peace. I'm living on.

Lynwood Road, thirty three forty four Lynn Warld Road, right at the corner of Lynwood Road and Long Beach Boulevard when you get off the one on five freeway coming from Los Angeles, and you exit on Long Beach Boulevard.

You know that puts you on the side where you have to go that would be south. You know what I mean.

I live right there, and you've missed out on some good opportunities to Uh there's pimping money to be made.

I'll tell you about that. But after this, I had that opportunity too. But I would have picked up an additional ten thousand dollars. At that time my rent was four hundred and twenty five dollars. Ten thousand dollars goes a long way. I would have been straight, you know, for I don't know, you know, for a while, or I would have got busted. And my problem with it, and this is the point of sometimes being a crypt and a well trained crip. Shout out to my older home.

Is now I.

Think I can get away with everything. Sure, I think I'm some kind of fucking criminal mastermind. And it's crazy because I think the police is smart. If nothing else, they have more time and resources. Even if they're even if my SAT score is better than some of these motherfuckers they have, Like I'm spending my whole day trying to get away with doing a crime, stay alive, not get ribbed, feel me, not get cheated, and they spend, you know, and I still have to do the transactions to make profit.

They get paid all day to watch me.

And even in the vacuum of one singular act, you have to go twenty for twenty and they have to go one for twenty.

Yeah, you know, so.

Like even that decks stacked enormously against you.

Yes, So.

I remember that happened, and I remember just thinking like, nah, I can't do it. I don't even know how I was gonna even pay my rent that month, or I didn't pay my rent, I might have been a whole month behind. But mister Hood used to try his best to keep the owner together. The lady she was. She was a cool lady too. I forgot her name. But the manager of the apartment unit, mister Hood rest in peace. You know, he would, mister Lewis Hood, he would do. He would try his best to help me. He's seen

I'm cool.

And I remember my brother was mad because he was like me, you ain't trying to hustle, you know, y'all.

I'm like, now, I'm gonna do something different. And that was yesterday for me, and.

It reminds me of one of my favorite probably not released singles of the last several years in the hip hop genre. Is that song Last Run by Yogatti.

Oh, I never heard it.

That's a great song, great, great song all the way around.

And so.

Yesterday Coach Wills talking to me, He's like, man, God has something right around the corner for you. He's like, man, I know this energy. And when he said it at that time, I heard him. But I'm like, man, I'm finish gonna burn his house down because I he was a way with him. And you know, these motherfuckers gonna know not to play with me. They're gonna have to get on the phone with me. They got to fix the shit, you know, period, blah blah blah. And I got you, guys, man, I'm the freeway.

I just take anything. Coach, Yeah, Coach absolutely you're putting in all these things into the car.

Yeah, no, no, I hear. I'm listening to it.

But in my mind, I am so focused that I'm gonna show these motherfuckers, you know what I mean, I'm gonna show these motherfuckers, you know. Like and that kept saying God has something right around the corner for you. And when I was when I was right at the freeway and kept saying God had something, and I just turned around and went on. And I promised myself today that I wouldn't stress. I promised myself today that I

I hate, I hate to do it, but I have to ask. Are there any nominal speaking roles for presumed white characters in the film.

One, Yes, okay, that's why I wrote you in. I got a cool part for you. But I gotta I need a I need I need an older white racist man. It's not for you. This is one specific thing. I got something for you that should be.

Probably achievable in the Southern Tennessee, Northern Mississippi Greater Casting Net Area.

Yeah, but uh nah man, So I've been really flushing out the characters again. Shout out to John Truby for Anatomy of a Story. It's one of the best. If you're a natural storyteller, you know, and I know they you know, John Truby ain't writing us no check. But if you're a natural storyteller and you really want to put your storytelling on an assembly line as far as for it to have depth, get Anatomy of a Story by John Truby, you know what I mean, and go

I've had opportunities to do films.

Over the last three or four or five six years, but I am so dedicated to hip hop and finishing what I started. You know, I went through all the stuff to get into this position that I kind of neglected that, but I realized those that thing is coming to me because it's going to help finish what I started. With hip hop, especially for like a masterful storyteller. You know, if I could compliment myself like that, a masterful storyteller as myself like right, I look at the difference between

Sure, not to mention, probably just miserably tired.

Yeah, but I wasn't tired enough to where I couldn't have did it. But I didn't. Actually, my big homie, Big Cool from Bebop.

Came by and he brought a hommy Pedro and a couple homies and we end up talking possibly about doing something with the del Phonics, one of the least singers from the del Phonics, and that ended up taking about four or five hours. So by the time that was done, then I had to do some rapping, and so by that time then I probably got tired because I ended

Oh.

He has a knack for what's happening when it comes to street urban coaching. So you know, you make time and Pedro, you know, they were rapping before me, so you make time for people sometimes, you know, shout out to everybody that listens to No Seilings podcasts forgive me for this day late, but here it is, you know what I mean. It's a day late, but we're right.

Here and I'm ad dollars short, so we're perfectly and sync.

Yeah. Yeah, So.

At that point today I've just been writing, flushing out the story a little bit more. You know this again, this is the first this is the first synopsis or or the treatment that I'm going to take the screenplay in the strip. There alone going to shoot it. So I'm excited about that and it is kind of it

I didn't want to move the camera lot.

Shout out to Malcolm May's little bro he didn't, you know, taught me a lot about multiple location shit. So I was really careful with the first films that I wanted to shoot were always, for the most part, single location shots. I mean, they spent eighty five percent of the film in one location. And it was one thing to get the premise out, it was another thing to get the synopsis out. I still wrote the synopsis. He expanded it

Night and day difference, Pete, it's night and day difference.

What do you notice this from? Like what you the final product to be like, what like certain details that translate onto film or that you would anticipate would where do you see like those differences being like at their greatest.

So like with Tupacmas Die Right, Obviously this is hard to compare because that's a five to six minute video and this is a ninety plus minute feature. One of the biggest things is so character development and relations, gotcha, Like, that's a big thing today, as I've been spilling out before I go to screenplay and script, character development and relations, the web of characters.

And how they.

How they carry a story, like not necessarily the plot carries the story. Like I was explaining to Chris today about I was telling her about Toby films and she felt she didn't like them because.

They were.

Filmed on cell phones.

Yes, And.

I explained to her it's more than that, and she thought that was crazy. And I'm like, you know, have you ever heard d Lo no Hoe? Right, there's a ton of songs that are mixed like shit, But if the song is compelling, it won't matter. It'll go into the story itself and make the story even that much more.

Interesting, like shatas Sure.

Sure, And I was telling her that the issue with most TOOB movies for people is the lack of story development. Like they'll have a decent premise and plot, but the web of characters is questionable. There's a lot of extra

Yeah, yeah, no, to totally.

I mean those.

Types of and I think like the one relationship, I mean, obviously it's like that you're alluding to, but yeah, for the audience's sake, Like, the most important relationship that the main character can have is the one that the film

Yeah.

And it's funny because I think I did a podcast we talked about it before on this podcast where I felt like I understood when people said Kendrick's music was preachy at times. It was driven entirely too much by dialogue, like the messaging was driven by dialogue. And it's also why I said gn X was his best album. Not only is it the best combination of records and him in his most honorable and vulnerable space, right, it's also

Be very minimal.

Sure, no, definitely could be just something he's wearing on his uniform. So I've been just developing a lot, man, a lot. What else is going on? Everything going on with all the how is the trading going?

Eating shit at that?

But I'm overperforming and everything else, so keeping the ship afloat. So that's nice. But I continue to just get castrated on a weekly basis, and that's unfreaking believable. I don't even know how it's about bath we thought impossible. I'm baffled by the numeric probability of that shortcoming. Truthfully, it's

Amen.

So the oh a couple pieces away.

I remember you were telling me the story of how your family ended up in California, mom's side. Sure, I think it was right, how they ended up in Lynwood and then how they moved to where your family is at now.

Yeah, look correct, Uh.

They were in uh once, I was in Lynnwood, across the street from where Lynwood High School is now.

And that's your that's your that's your mom's side.

Yeah, it's both my mom's side and the other the other group over there was up in Hindton Park.

And how did they end up near the beach. Initially when it was cheap.

There was nobody down there. I don't know how cheap it was. It wasn't like it is now. They just kind of kept They originally moved to Downey because the houses were bigger. So there was a little neighborhood in Downy that had like four tedescos in it, like in twelve houses. They just dollars.

And then.

I think, honestly it had to do with I think my aunt had allergies or something like that. So they're like, you either go to the desert, you can go about the water or something where it's not in that area where it's like polony or something. Sure, So he was down there, thought it was super boring. Orange County at times is nineteen sixty one was still Orange County. A lot of citrus grows the middle part of the county. Old Santa Anna was there. Newport was tiny, a tiny

How important is migration in the pursuit of opportunity? Like I said, everything obviously, obviously I watch America move from place to place.

It's the most important thing. It's the second most important thing behind pursuing knowledge. It's less important now because of the nature of certain virtual opportunities, let's say, like be it in certain software tech environments. You know, you can do things like that. But it's the most important thing. Even if you're in tech. I mean, it's not an accent.

And so that's what happened with Texas kind of over the last ten years for people in California, especially black people in California.

Right, Yeah, I mean a lot of moos with Texas. They've kind of moved everywhere, it seems. There's a lot of Vegas, a lot of Arizona, a lot of Texas and Atlanta. But Texas has a lot of growth and it's also very balanced sheet friendly mean affordable, yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, affordable on both sides of the ledger. It's cheaper to live there and you can still get good wages. There are other places where it's cheaper to live, like Memphis, but you're gonna get paid pigeonshited money too.

Mm.

Like Oklahoma is a good place to probably look into a certain opportunities there too, as far as migration.

Yeah, what if you're what if you're not looking Okay, what if the opportunity you can't see it yet? Like right, if there's a location that I'm looking at right and I'm like, the oportunity isn't there yet, but you know for sure because this place is the prime place where people with economics they have to go there. Like it's only so long this place could exist without you know, wealth showing up there to maximize you know again, to pursue more wealth.

Yeah, I mean that's sort of the you know, American story in a nutshell. And depending on your time frame, there's like visionary early and then there's opportunistic early. I like, so if you're a visionary early, that means there's something unique about this and I can make something happen, but it doesn't exist yet, so you have the vision to

Rather mmm, so visionary versus opportunistic. So if I'm a visionary yet, I know that because of the Internet right there is it's definitely changed the landscape. But let's say the vision is in real estate mhm. Location, Yeah, it seems like a longer gamble because you're still waiting on you would still be waiting on wealth to come fulfill the vision.

But you know, is inevitable.

Yeah, uh, time is a serious component. Like let's look at like for one, you know example, maybe some of the you know, you're a lot of the audiences may or might not have heard of I don't know. But obviously California's tax structure is pretty cumbersome on business. It's no secret.

Moving a lot of films out of state, moving a lot of everything out of state.

There was one project that got underway, but they kind of contracted their way into kaibashing it, so to speak, to have a new port of La right down in like Rosa Rito or something on the other side of the Mexican border, and offshore everything down there at way cheaper, put it on a train and send it out. Governor of California basically said, We're going to put a state tax on any product that comes in there that's so high that you won't be able to do it.

He took Trump's idea for California along.

Sure, and I think that was Brown, I believe at the time. Don't quote me, but anyway, the guy who started building it was the visionary. Now his vision didn't work, but had it worked and he put it together, and then you know, you move down there because you have a unique ability to launch some super automated arm in that port that doesn't have union labor restrictions. You would be the opportunistic party, as the other person was the visionary.

MM So this idea, I'm pretty much a visionary at this point.

Probably you're a visionary kind of guy.

This is deep.

I gotta figure it out, man, because I know it's there, Like I know when God is sending me the vision soul. Even if I can't see everything that I'm supposed to, I can receive the vision because I'm not drunk a high or delusional or yeah, you gotta be a little delusional to get the vision, for sure.

A little bit, a little bit. But you anybody can have a vision. You know, you have to be rooted enough in reality to you know, work it through actually being a worthwhile vision. Otherwise it's just, you know, just something.

Let me ask you a question. I wanted to ask you this. Well, it's not important.

Shit, fire away. We've got sixteen minutes.

You don't think you don't think capitalism right, You don't think capitalism would be better.

Off if it had a cap.

No, I don't think growth would have a I watched a great video. I should send it to you. This guy on that wealthy on show that I like talked about and there's a book by like my intellectual mentor of sorts though he's just an author and doesn't know that he's my mentor. Uh, wrote a book called Life

Mm.

So it's really not capitalists in any conventional real sense, like value as we know it has been distorted beyond the point of recognizability and we're just yeah, kind of kind of a long for a ride what we can.

So you mm hmm.

But like even in like in a normal sense capitalism had a cap then then you're cap and growth.

And your cap growth.

Yeah, everyone who's tried it, that's been the outcome. That's been the outcome because most of the margins don't change that much. The scale does.

Mm hmm.

And big visions cost big money.

But do you think we lost something when McDonald's went like this big?

Like as like I watched the film The Founder, and obviously it's a movie, so it don't have to be real. But even the concept of saying, hey, if we stop using real lifce cream and we use a powder mix, right, we maximize profit and make you know, you don't see the issue in that type of quality.

I do but it's interesting. Like in the food world, the cancer I don't think is McDonald's. McDonald's offering it's pretty straightforward. You're getting something cheaper, and it's cheaper like literally and proverbially.

You know.

The companies that I don't like. You said, there's only like a couple of companies in all those chain restaurants like Chili's and Red Lobster, all those things that give you a sit down dining experience at a price that a mom and pop restaurant can match, you know, normally, like, but they've scaled out and their quality is shitty. So now you're paying thirty five dollars to have a sit

Kind of like what Best Buys did to the independent record stores.

Yeah, yeah, like that Best Biden come out and offer a one penny CD that nobody could mash, but it was shitty quality. That's kind of what McDonald's did to me. It evolved in that.

These others they changed their business right right then they changed their business eventually went from making money off burgers and fries to really having a different level of interest in real estate. Sure, sure, so, But you don't think that happens every time as you pursue profit, like you have to start to foresake quality first.

Maybe like in and out is.

The closest you can get to going too far to where you could keep some level of quality, you know, but still have growth.

In certain areas. That's true, And it's not like it's there's not a whole lot of innovation in food, you know, Like it's pretty much just how can you make how can you produce a cheaper price per unit, or how can you convince people that they should be happier with this unit at this price? And I think they did a little bit of both. I think they re established consumer expectation. I just saw a picture. I don't know

Is there really more efficiency in it? It just feels like there's more efficiency in things that are like what's the world I'm looking for? I always tell you it's the killer of quality.

Yeah, he's a convenience convenience, Like, I don't.

Know if it's efficiency as much as it's convenient in a lot of these in a lot of these departments.

That's what it feels like.

Yeah, like even a house now right, I agree with you, Like it definitely is made to handle fired a lot different, but it's also like a car. Like a car is more efficient with gas, right it is. That's fact. It's efficient with gas, but every other part of it is a piece of shit, Like you're not built to last like they like.

Statistically, I don't think that's true. I think the miles driven per major like repair has gone up a ton, but the cost per repair has gone up a ton.

But you know what I'm saying at that point.

Yeah, there's certainly no style and appeal and the design of any of the cars anymore.

But even the complexity of how it rides, you know what I mean, even the like like.

I don't know, I don't know if I'm just being an old man complaining or like, it's a real valid point.

Where we're talking about the pursuit of.

Efficiency, but really behind it, you know, behind the curtains, Like it might look like a magic trick of efficiency to the fans, you know, in the audience, but behind the curtain, it's all the it's all convenience. It's all the convenience of how you know, they could keep you in bed with them, how they could keep you paying them, you know, all of the above.

Yeah, I don't know enough about old cars or old cars when they were new, you know, to be able to compare it to anything, because it matters.

Old cars when they were new is a lot different than old cars.

Yeah, So like I don't really know. I mean, I've had bad luck with cars and good luck with cars. It's just then I imagine that's probably always been the case.

So how do you how do you embrace how do you embrace the convenience of life knowing that it kind of knowing that it's kind of voided of quality. I think what most people do is they just look around, and that makes them feel okay, but they really only look and left to right. They're not looking at time and knows as another metric. You know what, I I don't know a perspective. I don't think it's void of quality. I think it's void of character.

I think it's become so streamlined and efficient with mass production that there is no more uniqueness, or uniqueness is way watered down, you know, and and everything has become extremely like monochromatic rhetorically.

Speaking, like the NBA. Everybody wants to be the Golden State Warriors. Everybody want to shoot threes.

Everybody wants to run the same offense everybody wants to have the same exact lineup, everything is the same.

That's really done.

That's where capitalism is now, maybe not before we were born, when capitalism was all about creating something that didn't exist, versus now it's a thousand people doing the exact same thing in the pursuit and profit.

That's another thing that this guy mentioned on this video, and I'll send it to you if you want to watch it. You can if you're not doing But he was talking about and there's something that Jamaican Andre and I get you about all the time is these private equity firms that find a company that's struggling, and they

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