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Or you cannot be that tall and shoot forty five percent? What are you doing? He is not the best player on the Celtics team. Is he a good combination of a good offensive player and a good combination of a defensive player. Sure, the best player on the team is

market Spark. The team is built around market smart identity, sir, That's what and start off this podcast, people, market Smart is the best member of the boss just went to the East tiwn listen because they went to the Eastern Conference finals when Jayon Brown was a baby and Taylor wasn't on the team. And then I said Thomas and then Isaiah Thomas can go play for somebody else. Shout out to my nigga to my low, but niggas Isaiah Thomas and they're in the Eastern Conference finals. The team

is built around defense. They have the number one defense in the NBA with the number one defensive player. What the hell, it's not rocket side, Really, I really can't stand you, brother man, lying to the public right now. But as he also continues, but also he also does contribute offensively, like conversation. Offensively, they're the number one defensive team in the NBA, the number one defensive team in NBA with an average or above average offensive player. You

want to tell me about his contribution. Fucking contributed? Your datta stopped disrespecting defense. I don't know what happened in basketball to where ESPN is brain west yall with highlights. Defense wins championship. You know what happened in basketball? Games two through five of the NBA Finals. Yeah, but games two through five and NBA Finals is all about defense. The first game is the only one about offense. As le Bron, I didn't think that was the case this year.

It's always that. What happened was the Warriors may change his defensively and the Celtics could not because the Warriors have a really great defense. It happened to be that. It happened to be the number one and two defensive teams in the NBA. And you notice the difference between offenses with Tatum and stuff at that point, Yes, you did? You see what you see with a two or three time m v P look like versus and Nigga? Who y'all high on? That's s nine that shoot jump shots?

E g. He dunked one time in the whole funals. You're six nine? What are you doing? It's so upsetting explaining basketball to people. They just show determined scoring the ball. It's like everybody's a kid three to one Jordan's Kobe bro. The game is way more than scoring the goddamn ball. It is, And it's frustrating when you're looking at Marcus Smart, who literally has been taking his team to the playoffs

through his world renowned defense. He's probably this only is he the second point guard to ever win Defensive Player of the Year. You're not good. You gotta be as a point guard to win defensive Player. I think Sydney Moncrief was a shooting guard. Shooting guard. I think Michael George's shooting guard. It's only been two Niggers and it gets this is one of the greatest defenders ever and somehow we're talking about Tatum. Hatum is not one of

the best offensive players to day. This this is true, but you have to be like your first offensive player on your team to do that as a point guard. Yes, for the most part, it's it's it's it's simple science. Right when the Celtics won in two thousand eight, they were the number one defensive team. They weren't even a top ten offer that one defensive player of the year. And you can talk about Paul they won a championship. But somehow you nick is making about the truth? How how? Why?

I was having on Twitter and it was like, Chas, so you mean to tell me the team clearly built around number in the NBA is the Detroit Pistons in two thousand four with the guy who won his second or third Defensive Player of the Year and you Nikas just talking abrom the field. What do we do it? You know, what do we do why? While frustrating Bro,

it's like talking to little kids. And it's crazy because some of the niggas I talked to hoop niggas is hoopers and I'm like, bro, what the fuck if you have the number one defense with the number one defensive player, be obvious who the guy is. That's that that's that's that's crazy time. Why why are you? Why? Why is this an argument? New? No? Stop, you just gotta stop. I feel you. You're a defensive crusader, you like the Christopher Columbus of defense. But no, please, no stop it

by love Marcus Smart. He is cool, but he is a role player. A role player is not the best player on the team. Now, if you want to argue Jalen Brown, I'm cool. Both sides, get it. Get the funk out of here. Thomas was doing. He's not Isaiah Thomas. He's not five nineties six nine. Stop Notah Thomas for sure, because game as good as actually got better now he really know we are, like are we serious right now? Like you're gonna let one bad series basically just more

of them. I don't give a fuck, You're gonna let one bad playoff? De value the man holding how good was he in the first pece? Talking about him since the finals, Like the man didn't help take them to the fucking final. He didn't take them there. He shot forty the whole way here, that ship, where the fund was, Kevin Durin that sitting his ass at home because he got his ass pooped up by who, by Jason Tatum and about the Celtics. No he did, he got it. No,

he got his guarden very well. I don't everybody by who? Everyone, everybody guarding everyone made a concern Al Horford was guard h That's when I was sad when that's what Alford garden. But yes, al Horford was guard him. Yes, everybody was guarding Hieration. I'm not mad, not definitely not. But Tom listen, So number one defense that matter that Pete by the way, So number one defense with the defensive player of the year. That's still not his team. No, it's not his team.

It's a team defense. Like he's not the team defense. He can't go out there and play one on five. It's a five man defense. Offensive player has had a good defensive foundation since Brad Stevens took over the organization and built more around rebounding and perimeter defenders. I'm not fennising it up here and give Marcus Smart all of the credit because he had a good year. He had

the same fucking Marcus Smart year. You have every year, he just happened to win Defensive Player of the Year because because Jannice, every time he does something that's more incredible, it's kind of less impressive because it's like whatever, we've seen it before. But I don't believe Marcus Smart deserve to be Defensive Player of the Year last year over y honest. I just think people got voters fatigue because the man went back to back m vps and Defensive

Player of the Year. But I don't think Marcus Smart is the best defender in the NBA. That's cap to me. I would take I would take herb Jones man a man over Marcus Smart and play in terms of defense and that man a rookie you have you have lost? You know I have not. You know I have not, So I have not can defend three to four positions? He podcast? Oh he cannot. That's podcast is no seilings. Yeah,

my man, Peter, Peter Boss is in the spot. I got my partners from my partner TPJ, my partner Pavvy from the Hoops and Bruise podcast and just all around standout guys. But they started a podcast called Hoops and Bruise if you listen to No Silings, you've heard it before and it's obvious Tom has started drinking bruise early. Brother, I have nothing, but this is McDonald's sprite now we know, and said about right dirty? Yeah, bro, what are you

talking about like that? Little You have to stop doing that. You have to stop argue. You have to stop believing your own personal eyes, not about my personal eyes. I didn't say Jayson Tatum. I didn't say that, market. I said Marcus Smart is not the best player on the team. He's not. If you want to no, no, because let me finished before you misconstrue my point. If you want to see Jason Tatum is not the best player on

the team. Okay, but it's not fucking Marcus Smart. There's another guy on the floor that plays very very good defense and can give you twenty on any given night. He don't even play all NBA's best defense, Daylan Brown, No, you want a team with all they defending? Who you think getting credit for? You sitt up giving Marcus Smart the credit for the whole team defense. With Marcus Smart, I'm giving him the credit because he is a standout

individual defender, and I agree with that. But their team defense was number one their team d because you have because you have good defenders on the team, one of the best defensive players in the NBA. That does not make that man the best playing on the team. Because at that point, then can we say Joker is not the best player on the Dungets. He is the best player on the because he can score the ball. No, he scores, he facilitates, he's the number one rebound on

the team. He shoot, Damn, they're the best on the team. He plays the worst defense. I don't I don't care. I don't care. Do not care about his defense. You know why you don't care? I don't care about his defense. Why because if he's weak offensive, if he's weak offensively and he's strong defensively like a Rudy Gobert, you're gonna be telling me, Oh, the man can't do ship but set screens. If he's an offensive dynamo and he's not great on defense, that's all he's can't be the best player.

He don't play deeper like it's like it's all of this like you're one, You're doing it time, You're doing it right. I'm literally I'm not. I just gave you the perfect example of an offensive talent who does not play good defense on the team. Is rebounding a part of defense? Rebounding is a possession part. But now what I asked you, I asked you a very specific questions. Yes or no. It's rebounding a part of defense. It depends defensive Yes, and you did you doing this? You

doing pay? You're answering your question with specifics. Defensive rebounding is a part of defense. Okay, then so therefore, if the man is giving me seven to eight defensive rebounds a game, he is upholding his part of the of the responsibility as well as being an offensive dynamo. Don't sit up here and try to conflict. So Marcus Smart, So March Smart doesn't have sixteen points and seven to six, it's not six six. Still he can trip off, and what is his job off? Both the facilitate and as

the point guard, he should havever six assists? If he's not what it? What do you want use the point guard? Jalen Brunson didn't never six assists and he's a point guard. Jalen Brunson is not the point guard of the of the of the of the Dallas Mavericks, Luca was that's Cap. That's Cap. That is straight up, he's the point guard.

He is a point guard in name only. The same way as we had the conversation earlier about the Lakers and Lebron and and you said Lebron not gonna not play point guard, he needs them assist is not listing. Lebron is not listed at point guard though, point guard Lucas I'm saying, right, So floora positioning is where you play on the floor, minus all the shenagans of what we didn't convince ourselves of titles, and you know what, he's a facilitator, blah blah blah blah. No, let's just

talk about simple floor positioning. So my question to you and me make my point. Marcus Smart plays the point guard Floyd positioning. Lebron James plays the point guard floor positioning, Luca, that's not important. The reality is, yes, a defensive player can be the best player on the team. He's not on the Boston Celtics, That's what I'm saying. No, he's not.

It's not the only team in the NBA that has the best player on the team and they're in they're a defensive player is Rudy Gobert, periods man, and they can go to hell in a handbasket. And that's how I feel about you. This motherfuck No, Marcus Smart. Celtics have been good. The Celtics have been good since Marcus Smart has been suiting up. They're in the Eastern Conference Final with not Tatum Smart at least the past Marcus

a consistent thing there and Al Horford too. Yeah, and that was still okay, And and he came back and guess what, they wasn't even better? And they was even better when he came back. Agreed, Okay, then, so how was it all on Marcus Smart? Then if it's not Michael Jordan is the best player on the Chicago Bulls, that don't meant Scottie Pippen is not Scottie Pippen. No, by your argument, Scotty the best defender on the team. He facilitated scoring. He's not the best defender on the team.

Michael Jordan's Michael Michael Jordan's and then maybe Dennis Robbin And well, actually no, Dennis Robbin is a better defender than Michael Jordan. But we're talked about before he was the best player on the Bulls. Then it actually was a real conversation whether or not or you don't give credit to offensive rebounds. I give credit to offensive red because that would make him just like a dynamic I give that because you talked about offensive rebounds that would

make him a dynamic offensive player. I do think I never argued that he wasn't a dynamic offensive player. But he's. But at that point, they're not better than Michael Jeff Jordan. It's possible he could fucking be better than Michael fucking Jordan's No, I'm saying all that, but I mean he's a better defender. Look, I know you don't smoke weed. I know this. Yeah, but it's Friday, it's your day off.

I'm not saying all that, but I do think Robin should have want to find v P George Show does Gary Payton show shot thirty but he broke it off as a reboundy record twice. And Michael Jordan, but you know what, the last shot, the last shot, little kids three to Michael Jordan made the shot. He made the shot. He shot thirty times to have his thirty point. He did shoe third time slack before it. That was his worst playoff series ever Acts. Garry Patty was on that.

But I can change things. How do you think of these things? I mean, you're just I think of these things. They're just the fact I actually care about facts. I don't look past the scrolls on the wall. If it's right there, there's a bass guitar hanging up in the studio. I don't look past and me like that wall color is nice, there's still a bass guitar hanging on the studio. So who are you saying Michael Jordan is the bass guitar of the wall. Well, I mean Dennis Rodman was

winning before Michael Jordan's win. Got to go in this conversation. Michael Jordan's winning before Dennis Rodman. You know he wasn't He won three titles before Robin. No, no no, no, no, no, he I'm telling you Thennis Robbin won title before Michael Jordans won anything. Well, Michael Joyd was getting bounced around the East Coast by everybody in their MoMA. He's getting passed around like a two dollar hooker every playoffs. You know what Dennis Rodman was doing, Peter winning on the

team where he was not where he wasn't. He was literally the number one defensive player on the number one defensive team that you, for fucking some reason can't see that their offense was number thirteen, but you attempidated and they and they didn't have a guy that was They started shooting guard. That's one of the best defensive shooting guards to exist. I mean, he's not quite I don't want that. I don't want hear that they got defense on that team. Bill Albert complay no defense, joy, did

he mean Steve kerkis shoot the ball? But we're not, say, anybody than Michael Jordan, And we're not We're not trying to this this sir Michael Jordan's contributions or did Steve Kerk's contribution to championships? But all of a sudden, his defense. You care about everybody else but now his office Michael Jordan scoring. If you're talking about point guard defense, as far as the Celtics team goes, a point guard defensively is only as good as his help side defense behind him. Period.

That's everybody totally disagree. You tream defense. I think team defense. He's on his team defense is only as good as the guys that was behind him. Individual defender, he's fan fucking tasting, but also your point guard being good defensively is it helps because first of all, if if, if, if you're not getting fences right looking at the jazz. The reason why people think Rudy gets exploited in the

playoffs because it's Mitchell. It's like being a great corner in football with a really really really good safety behind you, when you can afford to press and cheat. Thank you. There's other people on the clot with you at all times, yes, and going to be who they are if the team defense in front of them. But that's that's the same Michael Jordan's couldn't have winning seasons before Scottie Pippen. He never had a winning season. Michael Jordan played three years,

definitely to play three years before Scottie Pippen. How can you see here they do his rookie contract. I mean mattheck Johnson one as a with Karim fucking out du with Jabar. Actually Kareem sat down and he wont still. I really, I love you, dog, but how do you draw me hit to have these conversations every time? I don't really because you're really being biased to offense in his disgusting shout out to my boy Nick, my man Nick Hamilton's bias the offense with magic, your magic, your

favorite player. What look, what defense did he play? You're biased? I'm not biased. I'm literally so a Iverson. Was he a great defensive player? No, but he did contribute. He actually played the past nine with a two time skills like my man Magic. They just told him do whatever you want to do again. The Kim Babe Mutumbo came and changed the culture of that teams and they became the best defensive league. Can get whom one defensive player

of the year. And guess who never went to no more championships without and guess who got smoked up back shock when he when they when they faced each other and putting that man through the guy damn he was putting that man through the wall and through the bass guitar on your studios. Be fair, though, and to be I think that series actually could have been better if the Sixers weren't as hurt. They were really hurting that series, and it might have gone four and a half or

five and a half. And Alan Iverson was a little harder to play better defense that too, because he because just out there whooping ass and Alan good ship because Alan Irrison doesn't play great defense. He had good help behind him, so we could afford to gamble all day long. I'm not disagreed, but don't ever compare that to Mark's. So part of my problem with Marcus Smart, it's it's defense. Yeah,

exactly smart. He gambled a lot. If I know that the passing lanes behind me are clogged, I can defend a guy up top a lot differently than if I don't really totally totally agree that things you can do when you have help is different, but that you're gonna get stared up. Michael Jordan could play means I'm gonna look a really really good bleeding out every point in

front of it. Could play like ship. When Dennis Rodan was back there to get all the fucking rebounds, he could miss all the shots in the world in the final everyone he could go. He coul shoot thirty shots and I mean, I mean to be fair, Uh, Dennis shot what three times the game? Somebody else gotta shoot the god damn ball. Can't be four people out there

shooting the ball and to be blunt. Dennis is in a cushy position because nobody was gonna expect to scoreboard three and a quarter points a game, so no one covered him, so he had an open lane to pick from to be able to position himself into rebounds because he wasn't getting boxed out and manned up, and three quarters covered on the block because no one was trying to enter a ball to him on the block, So

we had a very cushy rebound man. He show his hell, so when he crashed to the boards, I don't I don't need you to give me reasons why Dennis rob is a top team player. I know the reason why Dennis. Look. Look, look, look what I would have started. You have started the first twenty minutes of this podcast off with some elite hot takes one Marcus Smart, best player on the Celtics

to ten all time. None of these are hot, they are really They're actually just simple facts that are ignored by fans who glory who gramarized offense because it's all gee, it's an offensive driven league. When you have an offensive driven league, of course fans are gonna gravitate to what's office, especially but offense for the most we don't wait a minute, We don't glorify defense like we did back in the eighties and the nineties, and the game has changed and

and the people have changed along. That's all I'm saying. So when you talk about Marcus Spark, no, you're not gonna look at Marcus Smart because first of all, he's ridiculously inconsistent at times when you needed to really step up. Number Two, we're gonna look at Jason Tatum because we see what Jason Tatum as emerged too from that time he dunked on Lebron in Game seven and took the Celtics, who were not even featured to go to Game seven at that time, to go to Game seven, and then

he went back to the NBA Finals this year. So those peoplere gonna feature and look at somebody like a Jason Tatum more than they look at Marcus Smart for whatever the reason is. But it is an offensive driven league, and that's why we be glorified offense more do we do glorified defense as a whole. That don't mean your wrong that the world is wrong the world I'm saying.

What I'm saying is both things can't be right. But also you're talking about what's being highlighted and what what fans are paying attention to And I'm saying that's the reason why fans are paying attention to that, because it's glorified. Agree, if I had an airhorn right now, I will be fucking letting that thing. Well, Tom, he just called you a casual fan. I'm not a casual fans. But questions, No, no, I don't want to hear that. A number one, I'm

not a casual finger. Don't do the TMZ stuff. That's not what I say. I'm just question literally, see fans not fundence. So why you invite me on here? You have fans on the No Seiler's podcast. Yeah, I'm one of them. My first date. I didn't know. I did not know. I am so shocked as the prod on here every week. I even brought you all up over here to talk about your fandom of offense. That is not the purpose a quick question here for that quick question to talk about the Lakers, real real quick, gee,

you got uh. Let me ask you something that's honest question. What is the percent scoring ratio per possession in the league, like including second chance points, all the all of that offensive rebound like like that's what I what I need to know. And I would like to be able to compare that to like other errors, very giving rules changes and also points to per possession because three point shootings in a different place than it was like twenty five

years ago. I think that's an easy way to kind of distill down the broader value of defense, if you're talking about great defense versus bad offense being three or four possions of game or twenty posessions of game worth thirty points or two points. I really, I do know this possession in the sixties was actually more. The sixties had like the highest possessions, like everybody was missing. Sixties

actually had the highest possessions every like. I think the pace was actually faster, actually, and I think we're having a lot of possessions now because everybody's missing missing. Everybody's missing it because you're shooting further out the ball bouncing way back. Actually, offense is probably at one of its

lowest it's now. I don't have facts on this, but if I would use my brain and superior knowledge of hoops, you know, the things that I've learned about hoops, I would not consider this one of the better offensive as fair. I think that like if you were the factor in a three verse to two at one point five, and the amount ratio of threes being made relative to two is now it probably outpaces can aggregate decrease in um overall field goal percentage, sure and that and that's a

big point. I think I think you could score more points now, but I think it's going to be a lot more inefficient. I didn't call you out here just fucking time. That got me off balance talking all this bullshit about not getting more the smartest credit, not giving defensive credit, which is what they always fuck you do. Fucking I don't get why, but I brought y'all here to talk about the Lakers. It was all my mind.

Earlier in path he was telling me what they announced the starting lineup for the Lakers, and that is so Darvin Ham put out today. This is this has been the starting unit. It's been Russell Westburg, Kendrick Nunn, Lebron James, Auntie Davis, DamID Jones. She did not I'm not doing literally literally literally, yeah, I'll text to you. Is that I would literally text to you if I could find him, my hope send it to me. That's that's yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's literally what he said here go put

it in the chat right now. Literally, what he says that is that is a lineup w that's forty wins. That's forty wins. God bless, that's pretty that's forty wins. I don't care what you are, sweet Path, I did not know as a Chicago native, I did not know you were so dope to the Lakers, because that's a lot of extra wins you just gave up exactly for you, exactly forty wins with that? Why nice? You're nice man, because I ain't giving them forty wins. I'm not giving

them thirty five wins. They can't win to win their games here, they can they can win thirty games with that. With that, maybe thirty four. Gon you you you're giving them too much credit. Now I'm saying thirty because here the thing. First of all, Kindrick Gunn, how do we know he's gonna be durable the entire season? Along an in that life? Number one? First of all, how are we getting Dames ain't been durable as a lagos. I'm

about to get to that point. Oh on what I'm saying is number two, Lebron, when anybody goes out, it puts more stress and straight on Lebron, which more than likely he's gonna get injured at some point. I'm not calling him out to be injured. I don't wish injury or anybody, but it's just been the fact the last two to three seasons he's He's never played eighty plus games in the season in the last two to three years.

So because guys have been injured and Westbrook is gonna continue, I don't care what kind of new shot he's developed. He ain't gon to that in the game every year. What's so games with that lineup kill? We will? We can you put your house on Kindrick gun being healthy six of the season? I don't. Amiens hasn't played sixty games his whole career. That's a that's a terrible liner. Damien Jones the center. Oh that that he actually plays

a position. I'm sorry, That's why I even mentioned. The better line, in my personal opinion, would be, let's say Russell Westbrook, Patrick Beverley god Bless pick up like literally pick a wing, Lebron James at the ford, Anti Davis at the five. Okay, Okay, here's a better question. There's a better question. How many times how many games does the Lakers win by the end of the year. I gonna go forty wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

wait you mean wait callendar win? You mean like calendar year, or you mean by like literally how many games time? I'm gonna go forty seven? Who yeah, is nice? He's still believe in Lebron. No, forty No, I just think forty seven. Put them somewhere around the six seventh seed, which is where I think they will probably wind up more games. What they only played two? They only played twenty two games total with Russell, Lebron and eight in the lineup. You know what they recorded in those two games?

Don't care? What How good can you be if you've only played with somebody twenty two games? So your your imagination. Michael Jordan's Scottie Pippt and Dennis Robin only played twenty two games in the season, and they were foolish when when Lebron and Russell? Oh shoot, I think I was leaning up on it too much. I don't know about I mean, yeah, I just I mean, that's just honestly what I believe. I just believe. Alright, Pete, how many

games do the Lakers win this year? How boy? Forty one, Nick where you at Nick thirty, I'm gonna say, because the lineup is gonna change intermittently because of injury, I'm gonna say at least thirty nine games. I think they're playing team. I'll sell you with me, and I am saying to say about the lineup before I'm saying that if the lineup changes, which is going to I'm gonna say thirty nine around forty and they're gonna be a

play in tournament team. And I'm gonna say thirty four games they don't actually and they don't make the play in games. There's no reason for them to win more games this year. Well, if Lebron gets hurt, then the whole catastrophe of Lebron and uh Westbrook on the floor simultaneously becomes mitigated. So they you know, that's a circular firing squad of an offense. They need somebody to get hurt to clear it up. I think I think long

is Lebron and Russ are together. I think you get what's weird is Russ playing three in D next to Lebron stat wise is actually not bad looking on the stats. You can get somebody that's averaging eighteen points. Seven assists, seven rebounds, shooting fort you know, maybe from three or something. But the problem is you get a half of a guy. So there's no reason Lebron is a year older. Um, you're actually canceling Russ another year. You have a d

who may I think he'll last sixty games? You know, I mean, I think you'll get sixty plus games out of me. But his real his real claim to famous defense. And you don't have anything on the court that can defend Damien Jones hasn't played sixty and sixty games. His whole career just just screams thirty four games. Mr. Play is why what then? Or something funny like what play? What move did we make to increase winning more than thirty two games? Last year? You want know some funny glasses?

Patrick Beverley was like, yeah, my team been winning in practice. That wasn't because he a didn't start ladder. They probably beat the started ladd up ass. My homies got so bad because he like Glass is year a Laker fan. He said, But you're like pessimistic, and I'm like, no, I'm not pessimistic. I'm really like, I look at the facts. Last year we won thirty two games. There's no reason to believe we're gonna win thirty six what like. But here's the thing, they can win thirty nine to forty games,

right because the lineups are gonna change. Bluster. It's not about Lebron being healthy. It's about a D being healthy. A D, as I said last season, a D is the glue that keeps the thing going even if anybody goes down. Because when he is healthy, he's the top five, top ten player. So if a D goes down, which more than life unfortunately that's probably going to be the case, then that's good. Like I said earlier, it's gonna push

round Lebron. Westbrook to me, is out your three D the three of these Pat Barrett, I'll be either way. The fact that you have two guys under six ft three playing three and D when you have probably the six ft nine one of the best wings ever, means you're not going to win more than thirty five games.

The fact that you're literally talking about two point guards playing a slash game when you have a wing defender, a wing like one of the best wings ever in Levon James, and you got him playing where they should be playing. Those guys and combo three and d guys, it's fucking hilarious. Yeah, and you wonder why we can't win. For the game, Pat Bath shooting in the corner. West Brooks shooting in the corner. That's what we're doing. Huh.

The thing with the legacy is even like last year, which have been saying the whole year, it's like what I thought was gonna happen was Lebron was gonna be off ball more. They was gonna let Russ handle, let Russ do his thing, let Russ crash. It would also take stress off lebron body. But then when they came into the season even like again again, like to play

against fucking Memphis. I've said it a cover times, to play against Memphis when I think it was Russ was in the corner and like Malik Munk didn't pass him the ball, but they had Russ inbounding the ball in the first place, so the other place he could go to was a corner. Nigga, Lebron, take the fucking ball out. If you you could actually shoot the ball, you actually on the lowest the keys, might be the best shoot

on the team. You should be in the corner. What's crazy is We're not going to do what we did last year grew when I told y'all how this was going to play out. Waste our time imagining what could be. We're gonna focus on what we know what's gonna happen. Can we all agree on it? So we all disagree on how many games? Let me, y'all think they playing, Patty TP think they six round six seed, Pete saying how many games? I'm the little man on the total pot,

So let me ask you this question. So then that means, do we all agree that the Lakers whole focus is not making the playoffs with this line up at that point, and it's more about having Lebron pass magic? And can we all agree on that? Yes, the season about Lebron passing. It's all about Pastor Korea. It's Lebron, It's the United

States and Lebron James. And that's the laymakers. I told like, I told you, I told you glasses, they've done when the championships for the next fine of six years, five six years, so it might be the next decade you mean championship. And this is this way longer than the years because we were done for the playoffs for the next two three years, there's making playoffs for the next

two three years. Like, while I agree with you that a D is the glue of the team, the problem is he still plays around Lebron the offense and the defense is not. The defense goes to him to some degree, but the office doesn't. So where Lebron wants to play at is going to determine where a D plays at. That's why the team is not built around a D. When a D, when Lebron decides to drive, a D has to go into an in efficient position on the

court to allow Lebron to do what he does. And because Lebron is chasing Michael Jordan's I mean Kareem Abdul Jabbar's record, not chasing, it is actually within the queue of things that's gonna happen. They're gonna put Lebron in the best position, let score the ball. I mean, he was at one time, you know, one of the greatest players you know in in the in the game today. I mean, so they're going to play to that strength.

And that's why it will never be on a D being healthy because even with a D, he actually there's no way Fay didn't even stay healthy we're making him roll twenty feet away from the basket to the cup, and he's trying to have in efficient because a D is built around efficiency. So long as we're playing Lebron at the one, we're almost guaranteeing there's no reason for a D to be helped. We're almost guaranteeing because you

you're saying he out. We can't allow Anthony David to shoot twenty footers all day, so he don't like the perfect and driving around a road come that puts him in danger his health. He's using his legs too much. So the narrative of ABD, you know, we're not playing the script because we're playing le Bron James literally, you know, whatever that was at that time or maybe about we didn't making sure he passes Red the Laker um getting into the top five, you know, you know, passing Magic

Johnson as a Laker, those become the primary goals. Look at the lineup. We didn't get a lineup that cater Stagy strength end, A bunch of great defenders and guys defend their assault. I mean, we got a bunch of guys that can put on a Laker jersey. They fit the jersey they look like NBA athletes come out there, parade they self around just long enough for Lebron to pass Koem and for him to pass Magic Johnson. But I'll be honest, and this may be the harshest thing

that I've ever said in my life. I hope it doesn't happen. You know, what does that happen? I hope he doesn't. Far not the harshest thing. This is by far the hardest thing. That's by far nowhere do you want to stay? What would have to happen for him not to pass him? Whatever would have to happen, What would have to happen. That might be the shittiest thing.

And I never wish anything with greatness for men, But as a Laker fan, it is so hard for me to watch my squad sacrifice everything it was for one player's goal to accomplish something. And and don't get me wrong, I'm sure the Lakers have value by him that that that top position being filled by a Laker. They just did the same thing with Kobe years back. They didn't saying those last couple of Kobe years were all about

it was back pay from earlier. It was. I actually agreed, it is back pay and as a fan, it is we old Kobe all of that Kobe later he wanted Did he volunteer those first years or was or was he He's paid handsomely keying keys. He was paid. He was paid for butts and seats. That's what he was paid for. And we played him and we paid him. And he still put butts in seats the last four years and Lebrono put butts in seats because he's putting the l A butts in l A seats and that's

what l A buts like. I'm not disagreed. I totally understand the business. As I get older, I understand the business of basketball. Genie Bust takes the most criticism, but as a business owner, she is doing a fantastic job. The Lakers last year didn't make the damn play is and we have the second amount, we have the second most amount of TV games world TV all the time.

Jennie busts if and whoever got what they said about Jenny Bust, Yeah, if you if you knoww she's not her dad and the level of competitiveness and putting butts and seats, but when it comes to getting that money, Genie bus is killer, and that's all the business of

basketball is is making that coin. Well, let's also say Tim Harris is on that staff as well, because Tim Harris is one of negotiates the team TV deals and to make sure the team gets on television with these these national cable broadcast shout there is in addition, so in addition to that, but getting back to my man's point, most fans look at Yeah, they appreciate Lebron because he's a Laker, but it's not the same revere and it's

not the same love as Kobe Bryant. And that's that's here he treated the way he was treated by the organization because he put the bus in seats. Because we watched Kobe Bryant brow up before Kobe come into the league the year before I was graduating high school. I grew up with code. Yeah that's my guy. Like I really feel like I know. When Kobe died, I almost cried, like I really know this nigga, Like my feelings was genuinely heard. I was like, holy shit, fuck my day up,

I don't know this nigga. That's how close the relationship bond is between me and Kobe. Kobe can you promise me that we'll do an episode in the future examining the the emotional attachment that people have to the loss of celebrities that they've never met before, because I am fascinated with that, because I have none of that in me. Yes, there's a few guys. I cried with Magic announcing HIV I was ten. I cried tears. That might have been the third hardest time I've cried in my life. Like

my mother died is number one. I cried for a month. She gave birth to me. Right. The second time I cried, I remember is when I is who The second time I cried like I cried. I mean, I've obviously cried, but I'm telling you, crying hard, you know when you really cry. Like my mom, I cried every day for a month. It took me three months to cry when my mom died, but I cried every day for a month. The second thing that I'm thinking of is when my grandma died. I cried for two days when magic. When

Magic announced at HIV, I cried for an hour. I went and laid down in my bed and cried, my Nikki is about to die. That's what I thought. I was no, I'm not. I know it's funny, but this is the truth. Like I literally cry like that. My mom my mom is a is a restaural. She was a registered nurse and she did home care for terminally

ill patience. So I was meeting people in the eighties, gay rich men with aids in the eighties when when I'm talk about real age, not the new aids, real agies, when you used to get these silver dollar shores all over your body, the syndrome not the virus. You're not this weird ship. I mean this punk, this new age and ship like, but I'm even the real age now ain't like it used to be. You can have age, you don't has got aged. Billy Porter be acting the

movie he got ages. This then is walking around as my fucking will suit dresses on right now doing backflip. Not that age. I'm talking about the real deal ages. All school, you found out what Easy had that Nigga died the next day. Now it's easy at age that Nigga was dead in a week and none of this amicron age, the real ship, the real this is. This is nothing to joke about. I'm serious. I'm took my real age and you gotta remember when at that time,

I'm ten, Ages was just knocking motherfucker's down. You're my holy ship. Age was a death sentence, and Magic announced it in my mind. Would looked at me and I started crying, and she trying to console me. And I was in my bed just crying, like my maga about to die. Man, you feel me third hardest I've ever cried. I cried for an hour, man, And I remember Magic

having a thing. It was after it was after uh Chris shaw mall right, And it was right when that song the best Things in line for um free, and my mom brought me off there and Magic came to talk to everybody. He had like a thing. I don't know what it was for, y'all was too young to notice for but my mom knew how much I love Man. I had every magic Joy's magic shoes. It's Magic Johnson. He was Los Angeles. So she takes me there. She has to work in the area, in one of those

rich people houses over there, you know, in Windsor. So she drops me off and I'm right there and Magic is right there. He's like, don't worry about it. They told me I couldn't beat the Celtics. I'm gonna beat this too, And that day restored faith that one day and guess what motherfucking thirty years later, guess who posed it for lak her pictures. That's why I laughed when niggas tell me Michael Jordan is better than Magic Johnson. Michael Jordan couldn't beat them pistons. My nigga beat Age.

What do you beat the Lakers too? Anything? The SU broadcast was in a while, first time in the broadcasts. Every now he lucky my nigga, He lucky my niggat because my nigga would have bounced back and put tips on it, because that's what we do. But you know what, you know, he wouldn't know the differ when that nigga didn't do nothing to the nigga that did this ship to his daddy. My nigga beat Age. That ship should

count for three rings. My nigga technically got eight rings. Gee, did you just say that he didn't do that to the digger that killed you daddy? And Magic knocked up my daddy. Y'all got some for him? How rocks from the boar? If you want, I'm gonna show you first in how we get down, nigga and fuck jelling, fuck money, do something. My nigga beat as that ship should count for three rings. My niggadn't got eight rings. Niggas couldn't be Aids in the early nineties. Of course, magic is

the nigga that beat AIDS. Because niggas couldn't beat the Celtics. Niggas couldn't beat all this. Niggas can't win championships as rookie. Of course, it's a nigga who can't win championships as rookies be aids because he won a championship as a rookie. That is Laker pedigree. That is the standard of life. I grew up with Championship Ship, Man, championship Ship. I'm not no motherfucking nick myga at almost pagements. Nikki and Fit don't go on the grand scheme of winning beat

the Pistons. Where the greatest quotes of all time? By the way, that's where the greatest quotes of all time? I mean, how many rings should ain't be names count for? You got AIDS in nineties and you beat it man, that I should count for five rings? Oh my god, that's hilarious. Nigga right now giving Nigga's buckets at twenty four. Don't make blood of this ship. Raise your hand if you would accept the blood infusion or transfusion from Magic

John right now, that championship. Whatever he got his blood, whatever he got ball bullshit to a side, whatever run through his veins is championship ship. Ask Larry Bird, Oh Man as Age God, if you could talk to HIV and Age right now, they'd be like, Man, that nigga Magic. I thought I had him, but Nick came back, gave me thirty and the fourth My nigga lives thirty years. Nigga, It wasn't all these fancy aids medicines like it is now.

Hip meant in all these new travon face and susceptibles and all these crazy medicines where you can you won't even know what you got is undetectable. My nigga Magic beat the real Age like he beat the real Celtics. Man said he gave Age thirty in the fourth quarter, and we finally gonna beat Magic. We finally gonna beat Magic. Put a fifty six nineteen and twelve assists at seventy field grow percentage seven steals in the finals my nigga

probably gonnaut live me. Would anybody be surprised if Magic lived to be a hundred and twenty three? I would not be shocked and a little bit. I would not be shocked, Bro, I would not be shot like how to Magic, I live Bill Russell. That's crazy when you're thinking about Massic. I live Bill Russell. Bro Magic, I live Bill. You don't even be looking like he gets the cold no more, he don't even get a cold. That's because he's Yes, he can't get a cold because

he has age. I don't know, man, if you would be like ten horse pills of what do you call it? Of? Like immune defense cocktails every day for three years. Man, my nigga is a champion, Pete, he ain't Arthur ash and all that. Man, This nig is a champion. Shout out to Arthur and rest is so man, Magic is another You say all this to say that Lebron is nothing like Magic. That's not fair, of course not but that's not fair. Lebron James, Lebron James. I'm happy for

all this success. I just don't sound like it. Well, it's because it's like at the at the fucking you know what. At times, it's contrived and it's at the expense of winning. Fans of winning, it seems like magic. Johnson beat ages and proverbially speaking, Lebron James gave the Lakers age Loky, it's been pretty bad. Pretty add it's pretty He's kind of gonna leave that girl that's on this way out. It's pretty bad. All I'm saying. All I'm saying is I understand the Lakers have to do business.

Like I get it. If I own the Lakers, Genie would be the person I would hire. She's making the right decisions to make the money. You know, I'm spoiled by I'm spoiled by Jerry Buss. I'm spoiled by her daddy who was And she's trying, you know, she's trying to win, and she's, you know, trying to do business. But it's a tough. So I totally understand as a Laker fan why we have to bring Lebron James back. I totally get it. But we do have to come into a place to where we stop being ridiculous. Forty

seven games, forty it's over. It's ober Bro, there's there's It's not about personnel at this point, it's the core. You can't add random assortment guys and win fifteen games. You're not injuries away from winning fifteen more games where we wasn't winning games when they was on the court, which is the biggest problem. It's not an issue these niggas been playing since the turn of the fucking decade, then there for sure. It's at the term of the

fucking decade, all of them men playing forever. They don't need to play a thousand games with that much talent to win fucking more games than they won. They just don't work well together. They need they need Marcus Smart. I bet you they win. Smart will help. I bet you they can't help. Mark help right now, right now, Davis, we win game markus Smart will help Mark and cut out to my nigga, Rus because Russ is fantastic. But

we just got a bad office. All offense been bad since Lebron James put on a Lake of Jersey and before that. So at that point, yeah, I bet you, right now, if we tap Marcus Smart, we'll be in the fucking playoffs right fucking now, right now. I bet you if you called the Septics, I trade you Russell West but for MARKU Smart, they'll be like who They wouldn't say nothing, They say we got we we have

Russell Westbrook for Marcus. That's how great Margaut Sparty. Marcus Smart is not going to Marcus Smart is not going to be a Hall of Famer. He won't. I think the only team taking it. I mean, I don't know. That's another defensive Bloody Year. It's not gonna be all the fame. If he winning on the defensive Lady Year, he might, He's not gonna be all of fame. Russell Westbrook is the first ballot. As soon as they put Russell Westbrook name on the ballot, he's getting all the fame. Yes,

as soon as they put his name. And he's not that he's not removed from his prime. Just we're using a quarter of Russell Westbrook, half of him. We're not allowing him to be the best version of himself. That's the point I was trying to make um. But so I'm gonna make sure we had this episode. So I said thirty four, Pete, you said how many? I just split it even five hundred forty one, Patty said forty, Tom said forty seven, and Nick sat thirty nine. Yeah,

I'm gonna win. So it's like the price is right, price is always right. You have no chance, no chance. I'm man, good looking. Out for tuning into the No Sellers Podcast. Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, and share. This episode was recorded right here on the West coast of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King for the Black Effect Podcast Network. And I heard radio Yeah,