Conversations about Suge Knight w/ Reggie Wright Jr. Part 2

believe we all got a date. And I believe the only way we can get that date change is by they say, striking our parents. Say that again, by hitting our parents, they say, that's one of the way we lose our data. Are are day? Can no change that? We lose days all of our lives. Yeah, but by raising your hand and your parents. Bible says that that you like your days would be short on his earth. Oh wow. Um, if it's if it's one thing, when I think it shook a lot of the times, and

I'd be worried about is um. I think when Dre left, I think I think him and Dre Oh Okay, it happened. Okay, So I think when when him and Dre specifically kind of fell apart, that was the end of Death Row. Not Las Vegas, Las Vegas, is um Las Vegas. I

think it became obvious to everybody else. But when it happened to part oh Sen me scoot over here, when it happened more to pot like, I think that was the world's notice that Death Row was in, like it was over, because you knew at that point it wasn't gone, that it was never gonna be able to recover. The timeframe wasn't the time frame isn't quite. It's more condensed. But just like looking back at it from now and even at the time, it was like like the Nucleus,

like the band had broken up at that point. It was Pacro you know, yeah, it was. It was chapter two. Do you. I'm gonna tell you right now, you should probably keep Reggs you on here for a couple of hours, like he stay on here so we can cut it up in Yeah, I hear you. Now, I gotta drop your camera though I hold him. No, No, we gotta switch you switch him around, switch me around, there you go, there go. Yeah. So um over, Oh yeah, I agree with you, but I agree with you with that. And

and Park was prolific. And it says that you could tell he knew he was gonna die, you know, yeah, and he did things to um he was a little bit more prepared than everybody gave his credit for, Like he talked about it real early. It was weird out him and Biggie. We're so infatuated with death, you know what I mean, like so much conversation about death. I mean,

like what a tune speaks life and death? A little bro Well, also, I just don't I think some people know that they're not here forever, but know what I mean, And that's biblical. Rigs. Would you tell him if you sit up and talk about that. I know, I know, I know, I know, No, I know, I totally get it. I'm just saying, sometimes people know they're going to die, like something about Nip right is he talked like that, you know, like he knew death wasn't far from him,

know what I'm saying. And he prepared for it as well. And I think that's the same thing with pop pop. Prepared for it. Um. I was explaining to the homie. I was explaining to the homie right that, um he was asking me about you know, because I messed with Nip and Kendrick and he was asking me how did I compare them? And I always say like, um, some people ask me that I do I get Kendrick from Pop and I'm like, nah, that's more Nip Nip and

pop word. You know, when I read the stuff Park was about and talk to people that knew him over time, it's the same energy I get about Nipp. I mean Park was very how do I say like it was he was very purposeful. He didn't waste moments. Nip is the same way. You know what I mean Outside of like Nip like writing a verse and ship and taking some time, but he was purposeful. If he was gonna say it was gonna have some meaning. You got to think about it. Bro Um, Nip and Park both shared

a similar thing that they were both really eloquent. They both kind of like you said, they didn't waste time. It was like they was on the mission. And you know, if you think about the way just Tupac came in this world, you know he's the son of a black panther. His mom is a Phoenie secure, you know what I mean. And just the way he came up, man, he was like you know he you know, what he'd deal on this planet in this short time was real great. You know. Yeah,

you know, he achieved a lot of stuff. He put out a lot of records. Output was real high. And you're right, it was almost like he was for go. You know, somebody were able to go to prison like

you know, um oh three Greenys that his name. Yeah, he dropped all on prog because he knew I'm gonna be going for a while and I could feed my family, and and and and and if you listen to other people around him talk, whether it's Snoop d As corrupt outlaws, any of those guys, they all talked about him like you know, we're in here, we need to go, we need to go. Let's get this ship done. Like he knew he was in a rush. He knew he was

in the sound like you know. And this ain't no knock against the Outlaws, But a lot of them records sound like they couldn't keep up with him. Well they remember they were still kids. They still were kids to a degree, Like the Outlaws were like babies, Like I was listening to uh to because talk to other day. Um, what's brought his name? Um, Napoleon. Napoleon talked the other day. And they were like kids like Pac was twenty five.

Them dudes were like seventeen, sixteen and eighteen and ship correct. Yeah, I ain't seen hing to say they sounded bad, but you could tell like, no, no, they sound they sounded like they were sixteen, seventeen, eighteen and part sound like he had been a veteran of his business and and in the arts for years. You know. I mean them

dude sound like dudes that was. They weren't Tupac. Tupac was trained to be the niggy he was as an artist and as just a voice in the community like he was trained to be, like he went to artistic schools, his parents was everything about his life was set up to be as theatrical as it was. Everything about this. You know. He was a thespian, He was an artist, he was a poet, you know, so he had um

he just had a whole different field of me. And that's why I tell people when the conversation come up on who the best rapper was between him and Biggie and I see his comparing apples in Originist. Because Park had so much emotion, that's why people are more drawn to him. You know, you can see people need to need to God. Neither God. Snoop is the greatest hip hop artist of all time. Well only because Park didn't have as much time. Then we will be in a

different conversation. I'm gonna tell you a story real quick. Bro. You remember me and Big Side when I was going on to Dubai, right, So, I was at the laundry Matt and Um and I was in Dubaio to laundry, met the hotel laundry and Lady Cell, you have really nice linen. Are you an entertainer? You know the people that appreciate nice shirts and stuff. She was like, this one just collar shirt I had. She said this is very nice. Are you an entertainer? And I said, yeah,

I make music? But kind you know, do you play guitar? You do this? No? I wrap? She said, I know one rapper, my favorite, Snoop Doggy Dog and this one was about semi five years old dog in Dubai. She said, Snoop doggo worldwide as an artist. Snoop and he's known for being a book. Yeah, me guard Brooks for the album of the Year in and Garth Brooks was that nigger Garth Brooks on Michael Jackson Hills. Garth Brookston saw

some records. Um you do you ever feel like she was hurt by everything that was going on and the bullshit people were saying about him, even the people he looked out for. It hurt him. It hurt him that he was I mean, I know, I know he ain't gonna I'm not saying that he cry nothing. No, that's not how we get out. But I'm saying I know he had to feel like, damn, like I did all this ship for niggies and this fucked me. Huh. It hurt especially in two thousand five, two thousands, you know,

after the bankruptcy and so and how people. You know, he felt like he had to push up on people to help him out and look out where he felt like if anybody acts or just reached out, he would always reach out. That's how living got that relationship. Everybody think he went up there with a motor. He was just putting some money on punk books. That was the only thing when he was thinking about. He didn't know.

Unttally went up there and met with him. That was a possibility about a peal bond and all of that. You know, nobody, we don't know about the Peel bonds getting out on peal bonds. When you think, when you think about his case, it's so un California that that thought had to be crazy to hear him say, like, people don't know when POC got he's out on bill. Like listen to the first line of his first line of California levels out on bail, like he got killed,

Like as that project is released, he got killed. Seven months later, he's on bail. So it was crazy. And somebody made a good point. I don't I think it was you or somebody else. They was like, yo, they both would have went to what they both would have went back to jail based off of what happened after Casino. They both would have went back to jail. They would have, both of them. But nobody would have known about it if that wouldn't happen, if they wouldn't have got shot.

Orlando didn't report itself who Orlando was until two or three days later once called the PD got involved. Yeah we know him. Yeah, you know what would have happened though, man. And it's unfortunate. You know, we was just entering that era where people were sending their reports out from the you know, videos and all that stuff. Would have took somebody to turn that video in from the casino to say, okay, um, I want to ask you one question. This is kind

of important. You know, you guys did some amazing stuff. And I don't think people understand sometimes the magnitude of with death Row meant to the music industry, because no one is no and not to the music industry, to the arts, to the arts. These niggas, No, it's like these niggas are Shakespearean. I get it. It doesn't seem like they they go together. But if you understand what arts is, they represent what Shakespeare represents to art. That's

the first one to do high budget videos? Who is the first team that put out that little movie that they did on murder was the case? Who the first people that were walking around when they record labels on the next you know, who are the first one that did a wrap CD double CD. What I'm saying exactly as the question nobody was doing back in the day. Let me ask everybody, sugar so cold man marketing genius. Rig Let me ask you a question, bro. You know, we do a lot of work together, and I know

you know you say some funny stuff. Sometimes it'd be true, would be funny, and some people get mad. Do you ever think, do you ever see a time where you could sit down with Snoop and get with Dash and all them guys and y'all reconciliate. Man, just because y'all did so much great ship together, you think that's possible. Who knows what you're doing with your old because by kids, you'll get all if he's seven years old, so he might have a different mindset, but she looks so much

right now. I think you know that's something that's a little ways off. I'm talking about now, like if you could sit down with with Snoop and Dad's possibly and just you know, because I heard you and dads is real tight at one time you got you guys are running out when you're gonna read out to Dad when you took over the label. But if no, I have no benefit for him right now and and in his life, and he really had no benefit for me in my life. The only time people really get back together is when

you have at each other. We can look at Michael Jordan and Pipper. You see how they're going at each other right now, what trust me, they're gonna somebody gonna reach out and make them do something. But it's gonna have to be beneficial to one of them or both of them in order to do it. But that's generally when people unfortunately reach out to each other death or when one needs to profit or benefit off the other.

If if you had to say it was an artist that that should sign, right, so right, this is when you run in the label, right, So this is when y'all put out. So you're you're, you're you're part of putting out revenge, retaliation and get back. Right. I was in charge of the album dealing with priority. Okay, so when you you know, Dad did all the production and pick that obviously obviously obviously yeah, obviously, Um if it was an artist that should told you to sign, he

said he signed this person. He was like, why the hell will we sign this person? Who is that person? All right, we're the only artist that we signed while I was in charge. We did a whole bunch from Texas, and the mainly reason we did that from the guys from Texas well, number one. I had a good relationship with the realists, so I'm not going to say the realist.

That's what a lot of people wanted to say. The top Dog top Dog had that song going back to Cali um where he just sure sure top Dog was Snoop and the realist was pot But that's not uncommon. Like you know, once Biggie died, Puff sign shine correct. You know you it's a sign not crazy. The dude from what was the one that the DJ Quicken the i'm as signed uh most burg most you know, so, so people were into that at the uh at the time.

But the artist that well, the album that we shouldn't have put out was of course Mr La Mr Lai's album. We knew that wasn't ready baby Face told us, and he told me he wished me the best of luck with it when when we put that album out, so we do that album wasn't ready. Um, but uh, Crooked Eye was the best signing in my opinion that that that that I got um during my my tenure UM and I got him from Big C Style and the artist that I should have gave a break to that

we didn't. That I wish you would have got the first chance as a solo artist was this artist called super Fly. He had some good songs that was under DASK up. The one that I shouldn't have signed would be another guy that Dad's brought to us. But the reason why we signed him because I told should we I told SI the wrong name. Well when I told you the name, he thought I was talking about mcmore and I was talking about Max Sean. We got confused on So that might have been the artist that probably

wouldn't have got signed. Um, but he had a lot of production down by dask and so that's the only reason we made him signed even put to him and Dad's a really type a matter of fact, I think they still type as a as as today. Um. You know, we did some people like v K and do Be

and all of them. They had wrote a lot of stuff on Drey's album for DOCT because they was up under the d O C. And so we mainly went out to them and signed them as good they deal Dog and all of them signed them because we're gonna go out to the publishing because they were telling us how they had wrote all this stuff and d OC got credit for it and Drake got credit for it, and um, we were going to use them to go out to them more some publishing, some publishing money. M hm,

so older than that thing. I can't say any that we shouldn't have signed. I just think we should have. I wish the relationship with myself and dad would have stayed better. But you know, once he saw us, his cousin gets slapped on. That just messed up everything. Um and then UM who consumed that we should have put out would have been super flying crooked eye in my perio. Rig. You just can't say that didn't give us no context.

He's talking about the situation with him, Miss snoop. Okay, we don't told you about three times on this show. Yeah you don't. He listened to it. You don't listen to show now, he just asshole. That's messy. Pop Eyes run kicking out here too. You're talking about you said it only happened in the ghetto. My wife went to the Popeyees last week and they were out. But if that's your main thing, how the hell do you run

the chicken? I do want. That's like mcdonald' running out of burden me and you look wrong a lot of about me, and you're being friends. We don't we talk about so much stuff. I don't never see up and ask you their froth questions. I got a couple of true or false. I really want to focus on shoog Man. I don't really want to talk about that frog. Let me get this off. Yeah, I hate that he don't really get his love. Just the question because there's so

much and you window out there about shook. He's like the Boogeyman of hip hop right now the sugar Knight really, um get off in Jermaine Duprix one more time. This shug Knight and Jermaine dupri really have a problem. Did he make Jermine to pre do some things? Did he have problems a little big norm? I'm sorry, Jermaine. Did he have problems with Jermaine dupri Because it was a promise. Little Ball was still signed to us when he did it,

and he could have had me at any time. Uh, sue Jermaine dupri if he really wanted to, because little by Wall was technically signed the death row when when uh when he put him out, So if he really wanted to go up to Jermaine dupri he could out. Um. So I don't think so, Um, remember party with his boy Big Jake got killed, so he got on the plane to fly to a ladder to go support him. Okay, I can't say that you ever had anything bad to say about d No Andre Real, get hands. I'm sorry,

Andre he real. No Andre de Real made him look good with Cathy and Joe Joe and Mary j when he was running uptown. Listen, She'll didn't have to do She'll didn't have to do everything. Like, he's a lot more intelligent and smart than people give him credit. He's not. It's not just muscle like he you have to be smart, you can't. You could bully your way into the business, but you can't bully your way into success. It's just not.

You eventually have to know some ship. So I think, like, because we don't have people really giving him his credit for the things he was able to do. Like when you hear the story about the whole in their life thing, you don't realize he's retrieving publishing for someone that has stole something Like it's like he just goes and takes for their lifes publishing like he just punking. No, he made sure some The next brother wrote he got it

Chalcolate to go pound saying until that happened. Wow. You know Talcolate is the one that came to him that's always called people got merri when I called him Captain Stave a hole for men. That's how ship was SI all ship clos came behind going to back for other people. Listen. One of the last few times, like I was talking to him, he was hanging with Chris Brown, right and no disrespect to Chris, like right, And I was like, bro, why is you hanging with this nigga? Because like, why

is you working with this? I asked him, Like and if you ask me to tell you, it's like, why is you hanging with him? And these dudes ain't on our caliber? No disrespect to CB, but like you know, he's not from the cut, he's not from the land. He's like, yeah, gee, I'm just trying to do something like, man, I wouldn't be hanged. I'm not, you know, hanging around nobody from out of town, you know what I mean. That's like a successful entertainer trying to do what we do.

I mean no, again, it's one of these things where I just never liked him being around certain people because to me, he's worth He's worth preserving, like he means something to all of our childhood that came up in our era. The reason why I asked you about Waving that I knew well I saw Wavy. Last time I saw Waving with was that the video shoot at the Malut's house. Uh for a little Wayne video shoot. I've seen that and was testling and playing in the front yard. I was so I was the one that was with

walking around. That was just me, man, It was only too there. Yeah, from my point to say all of that, he was really hanging around a little Wayne because he was trying to get a little Wayne to come to him. Ship was looking forward that saving. He wanted to save. He needed an artist at that time. And so if he was hanging around, that's why him and IRV Gott he felt a lot. Most people don't know he was trying to snatch her. He was trying to snatch job rule from RV Gotti. He was just trying to find

somebody to getting back over a basically got out. We'll know how that kind of worked out. Not well. Pete Pablo, when Pete Pablo came around, kind of messed that deal. Love for him and Nina how did how did he mess up the Pete Pablo I always wondered with that well, because he went up there and demanded more money for Pete Pablo and they said, you know what, and they put him on the shell. Pete Pablo had that hot song, that helicopter song, and that song went on yea, yeah,

but he had so he was ready for a sophomore album. Yeah. Then when they went in there and made all type of uh demands, the record label was like, we don't need to deal with you. It wasn't until he left Hill that they put out another song on him. I don't know if they ever dropped the album, but I

know they did another single after that. And you know, that's so unfair because at the end of the day, you have to say, you can't say that Sugar was one of the greatest music exects of all time, and you have to put him right up there with Barry Gordy. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go as far as Berry Gordy. I'm gonna put Barry Gordy way above everybody else. And then and then I'll go shig, you got the numbers

that that thetations and all of them did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But but Berry Gordy is. I always put a certain respect on Barry Gordy man what he was able to do is and then for how long he was able to do it. But I wouldn't be one. That's my point of sugar, And the reason being is because you have to give Drake at least half ships credit. What you got to give all the credit that you gotta get them easy credit, right, you gotta give him well

from a production standpoint, Dre is easy the best. That's where I talk about that what I'm saying because then into some degree, yeah, I guess that's fair. But Barry Gordy is just the I didn't tracks that I did myself on the back. I did over fifteen million record sales just in a little time that I was there that I was just responsible for. If you want, I got a question, I got a question for you, Red, what's your greatest record? Changes? By Wow? You did do changes?

Changes with changes shook me and shook. Then they had a fight. I walked out of the visiting room oneing because he was mad at me. He heard the song, never heard the song before before it came out. Guess why he's mad at me because he found out the thief stouts and track masters was involved in it. Know they did do changes. Huh And they did do changes. They did changes like you let them, you let them mess with part he thieves goes. I was like, I

don't know, but that was that over? That was that actually up and and and it's one of the most important POC songs. Like it's special. Yeah, you're right, it's a good point. It's a good point. But what's funny is right? But what happened to death Row though? Right? What happened to death Row after Dre left? That's why I was smart. You went to the track masters. That's why it's smart. Because I can't take credit. Let me just say that I can't take credit for taking it

to track track two track masters. That was Tom Wally doing. Tom was trying to sign the shout out the town all the way. But if I wouldn't have fought she'll go on it, it wouldn't. He wouldn't allowed it to happen. And she had to approve of everything, and she was there said against it to the point where he saw me. Then they had tears of eyes and get out and leave where he called me back in and said, Reggie, if you want to do it, do it. But people

go hate you for it, and they didn't. Who the fucking That's one of the most important tool pop songs. And it talked about his life, It talked about every like that ship was great, and you know, what's the record that I wish I'll pushed that versus have been out before and I think Heaven got to get Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But but how they flipped it made it better. You know what's my favorite What's funny is my favorite Tupac

song is doing your tenure unconditional love, unconditional love. I don't want to add the real thing there in the booth and all of that. When I get that red White made it all in red, you know, the whole video shoot this and all red and stuff and darkened out everything. You know, speaking of um, you know Tupac. Whose idea was it for Eminem to produce that album one more time? Whose idea was it for Tupac? For

Eminem to produce that one Tupac album? He was off a death floor already, at that time, I believe who are you talking about? He took about Tupac album that Eminem worked on. Oh that was Tom Wally and that's probably Tim and Tom and Jimmy. That's like a no brander but changes that's that's funny. I I forgot that that's out. I'm telling you, sure knight when he wouldn't even allow that that music too went to to Is that actually? Is that actually the biggest tuopox song? Well?

What did you what did you try to start that? Pay? But we don't know because it was on the greatest album. What happened is we contribute to new songs to the to the album and then State you know which when I said to the State, I'm talking about the stuff that he did with with um, you know, prior to coming to the the death row. They did two new songs on there, and then we had and then we did twelve.

We did either eleven or twelve uh of his you know the best songs that was on mcavelly and uh uh all Eyes on Me and then they did the ones from you know, Brenda out a Baby and all of that. So that's how we did the greatest. We did twelve songs. They did twelve songs to make it a twenty four double c D and then two new phones. So that was the greatest album. But that's how that album was put together. Well, the question, I don't think I answered your question, Okay, um tupuck shangers, Um Gee,

it started until I said, yeah, check this out. Golden Bills and Golden Denmark, gold in Germany, golden the Netherlands, New Zealand, Go Sweden, platinum, Switzerland, go um, United Kingdom platinum. And this man sold six hundred thousand units in the United Kingdom. And if you know the market over there, that's like somebody is selling on the island. Bro. Those are Beatles type numbers like you just don't like because to go um, because the certification in Ireland, Bro, it's

only like ten thousand or something like that. It's a small island. But ain't nobody buying ain't nobody and ain't nobody buying hip hop? And nobody buying hip hop? That's what I'm saying. They got a lot of people out there, but they're not hip hop. So that means if he sold six hundred units, he wouldn't platinum in the UK. If he sold six hundred thousand records. That means the people that weren't in the hip hop was behying his record. What you gotta think Changes, the kind of record Changes

was was what he needed at that point. Changes became like this kind of hip hop joint that had a very broad appeal. You know. It wasn't like it's a special record. It's funny when you think of it, Peter, is that fair to say, you know, Changes by Tupac? Right? No, Yeah, that's just the way it is. Things. That's crazy when you think about it, that that was a song that was by far like his most popular song, like in my high school. Yeah, but because but that's also why

I did so well overseas too. It did really well. That's pretty good. Rag, that's pretty good. You know what's funny, that's a song I know when they never came out, we would have never heard. Everybody came out when M and L did Um, you know, the the album that he did with the State or whatever. They might have put it out then, but who knows, they went away that long track masters probably would take it somewhere else, you know, in in California. It's probably my favorite record

from that time. Well, Unconditional Love is my favorite two part record because I remember when in California came out, was like, yeah, when with Casey and Joe Joe, would I don't want to you know, had you all taken off that song? Had Casey and Jojo put on there and had it released? Uh? The song was that thugging you? Oh yeah, Jo was initially on there. I didn't understand why she could be upset with this fucking Casey and Joe Joe for crying out of times you gotta play ball.

Um damn, I'm thinking about that. That's fucking crazy. I remember that he was driving Gangster Car from Santana all through that video that that purple car was Gangster Carr and Dass video in California, California, that was baby Gaster Car. Yeah, and we took up, went up to opening. I went up to opening with him on that. What happened? You know? What did you do that? Did you do the Hammer Project? No,

Hamverd did that. He's Hamberd pretty much took that album We need Leo and and he went in and put it on his own. So y'all never got y'all never got a Hammer project. So Rick he had so much love for Himmer. He just left everybody. Man. People love him for sure, all right. He gave uh put books about you know a few months ago. Dog listen, Shug did really great things for people. I mean, we all none of us are above no, we all did our bullshit,

but he did some really great things. And and people don't talk about that like I just like, I get it. But man, no, no one man is that fucked up. He made mistakes like anybody else, but he did some fucking fantastic things that he's under credited for. And I just wish people come together and just give you some flower. This nigga might not be with us forever. I don't want this nigga to die. He nigga's to start. They didn't give him this. Laws don't do that my nigga,

like this man. He easily could not make it home. My mom didn't make it home. You feel me like you might not make it home. So why the fund can't we not talk about how great he was? Sure? I get it, I get it. How at the end of the day, huh, how is his health? I hear say that he was on the streets and not taking care of yourself. People don't know, she'll have a bad kage of diabetes. Bad. And he was out there using the medication that the doctor prescribed for as father to

uh and he was just taking it. Figure they had the same jeans or whatever, or it was working for him or whatever. But the one good thing about him going to prison is now, once you go to prison, that's the one and going to see medical style because you can get away from all the bulls and and if you shut the funk up, you have a little bit of peace. Yeah, shut the funk up. You have

some peace in that motherfucker. You're not stressed out. You're not running around with with CB, you're not running around with a little while, you're not running around chasing that the ship. Yeah yeah, yeah. Stressing yourself out about what's going on. It's like you have no control when you're on the inside. That's why niggas usually come home with black hair. Niggas come on from jail, they still don't be looking like, oh man, they don't even be stressed out.

Go to jail, come on looking younger than because you're not stressed out with this the streets problems, the world problem, bills and silly ship real quick because you're a little the little Wayne was Sugar was making moves and I knew around that time was he trying to snatch a little Wayne from cash money? That's what his intent was.

But Baby saw it. Maybe I remember with at the club the night before and Baby wouldn't even come over there, and at the Palms the night before that video shop then and he just stayed away, so he knew what should go. And he kind of looked up the shog you know. Yeah, I used to call and I used to connect the on the phone and he just was like, actually all these motherfucker's looked up the Shugars man masterp all these how not. They wasn't calling. They wasn't calling.

They were they were kind of lightweight this and and so you just told me what mc tim wanted to do with a song? You know, what do you want to say? So they all I don't. I don't. But even even Mac don't have nothing bad to say. I think Mac wanted to sell records back. Don't have nothing bad to say about Shugar, never like personally talking to him that like never, I don't think I actually met Yeah, I don't think I met a nigga personally outside of his niggas, his own people that know him and feel

know how they feel. But most people personally don't have nothing bad to say about Shook outside and win the camerazon, the camera zone. It's a show. And I and I talking wrong. If he made a circle too big, you know, like Lebron James, he only take care of four niggas. And what I mean by that, you take it of four dudes that came from college or three however, mean it was three or four and they look out and

make sure they're all straight. She was trying to take care of too many dudes, and that's and that's what I think it's problem was he should have took care about four or five dudes and they posted cupting circles and isolated and then everybody else will just be like or whatever. But he was trying to take care of too many people, and then they all got envy of each other. And you can't take care of everybody, and they're gonna fight, and they're gonna FIGHTNNA fight for your love,

They're gonna fight for it. They're gonna fight. Nigga's gonna start telling and that's just how it does happen and I have had to happen to me without without should success. I mean where it's like people around start fighting for your attention and your and your recognization and they started smugging other niggas around. Hey, what niggas is arguing? Mad at the size of his reign and his change. I'm like, why are you worried about that? You know, I just

don't get that. Um, I didn't get I didn't get that one of the last time. No, it was about two thousand, right before I went to jail. So I went in two thousand nineteen. So sometimes in two thousand and eighteen, he called, you know when he called and he gave me a little snorted, a little snippet interview when he when he was announced that Ray j and U and Nick Cannon didn't have all the rights, you know, like they were saying, and he said, if anybody got

a deal for me to contact is real toy. And he gave me that little interview and I and I put it out. Do you think shoot that down? Do you think that? Do you think of somebody? Do you think of somebody wanted to make a TV show and shool do you think the powers that be would black Man brick l a rick Um. I don't know most of you are knowing, but he's like she'd go. He was like she was like assistant or the guy that was making phone calls and stuff for him like that.

He had him meet with well Matt Bournes and now had him meet with the fifty cent boss. And so that was always funny to me when they said, oh, fifty need to do this orift need to do this. She go was on the phone with his boss and he messed that deal up. My point being too, it's people out there, they want to do it, but she got a humble, humble himself, and I don't think he had enough time or have enough people all there to

to to do that yet. And so that's why I'm on a bladd interview about a year or two ago. I said, yeah, I need to leave ship alone and let him go in there and do his time and give him about seven to ten years and then he'd be ready to do it right, because now he'll still be clowning everybody because he feels he still feel like he's on top of the world. And sometimes we gotta be humble man, and I don't see the humble and anny at that time. I haven't talked to him in

a while, and so maybe he would be humble. He's more humble now because you think about it. We haven't heard from him in a while, so he may be on a humble tip right now. But if you listen to the recordings that were released on Reggie Wright, uh, both sides of the fence, and there's the chronicles and he's still talking to laughing and playing niggas against each other. Y'all. See, he's not humble. Nobody knew him like you did, though

you was with him every day. He was just writing in man, and used to tell me about the trips you have to take up there. How texing was that on you to be able to you know, you're running the multime meellion down the record company and you gotta go check in with the guy that's the owner. How taxing was that for you? Man? This ain't worth it, not until after, not until I came home and we went right back to the same bullshit, going to the clubs,

getting in the fights at the gate and stuff like that. Oh, so you thought the first time it would have matured Eve and made him like I gotta I got an opportunity, let me take advantage. And he came home just kind of still on. It's too long. Yeah, And so the point is, yeah, well, oh I don't like talking about any no more. I just wished she would have been a little bit more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I get it. Yeah. And this ain't about negativity. It's about no I know,

I can tell you you. Yeah, like the support of him and and and and we supposed to though and them niggas is whether they admitted that them niggas is you seel me. But again, everybody want to be what he was, you know what I'm saying. Everybody wanna have that lord. But I don't think we talked about a genius enough. I think we focus on the bullshit. And it's some bullshit. She I'm gonna tell you all like this.

I think it's very important to us as West Coast people, you know exactly, platform as West Coast people, we have to uphold all of them everyone because and this is what drives me crazy, right, is they celebrate Clarence Avonny. If you know the stories of Clarence Avant man, he ain't that different than ship at all. I asked Teddy Riley about a von Let me get some stories, everybody.

He's the one they called the black guyfather, right, So they make all these ship about the exactly they make all these ships about their guys, right and in all due respect to these coasts, because they're really intelligent at this. Right. They made a hundred documentaries about el Matic. Jay Z is making documentaries about rock Nation, you know, Rockefeller, the should I'm not uphold like I'm not and I don't

have to lie. So when I'm on when I'm on the Breakfast Club and I'm talking about nice contribution to hip hop, I'm not gonna lie for him. Oh if we focus on the truth, the truth, and he's a fucking monster with this ship and what he was able to do, none of you motherfucker's could funk with him. And right, And it's the same thing with Snoop. If Snoop is the greatest hip hop artist, he because he's the greatest cultural phenomenon that ever came from our culture.

That's all say that, And I love all that, but I love do, love and and and it's not about that. Pop didn't get a chance, man, He didn't get a chance. That was no. No. I know, but you're you're talking about somebody that's been in this music business for thirty years, solidifying their legacy, doing great thing. Now. I don't know what the funk pok would be doing in thirty years. This would be a whole different conversation to compare him to right. But I would tell you this, I truly believed.

I thought he'd have stopped rapping. I think he would have approached status dog. I think he would have been Will Smith. I think he would have been with Niggas either be like man, you Niggas is crazy and I'm not working with this ship. But he was already there. But but my point is people will say that silly ship. You know, it's it's silly, you know what I mean. They think it's about silly ship. The thing about Pockey just didn't have enough time, Like he just didn't have

enough time. It's like Biggie, like he didn't have enough time. Don't get me wrong with podcast more projects to be crazy than me. That he's been put in the Hall of Fame, the Rocket War. They always want to do park and then do stuff for Biggie. Biggie don't have enough because his people, because his people fight for him, they fight for him, they fight, and and that's how I feel about I told my part of this two years ago. I say, man, I want to do something

dope for Sugar leggis se. I want to do something great for Drey's legacy. I want to do something great for Snoop's legacy, Warren GE's legacy. I don't know, he just got a he just got a star on the Walk of Fame, like a couple of days ago. And feel like, you know what I mean, like after all this time, Dr D But I think, yeah, that was Yeah, that was Snoop right. So, but it's crazy that like Dr Dre should clearly be celebrated as the greatest producer

because it's not about actually the hardcore facts. It's about how you campaign. And I think we don't camp even then. Even then, it's about even then, it's about campaigning. Like you know, you've been a part of this business. To be in the Grammy organization, you have to be a part of the Grammy board and submit. That ain't simple. It's like we just take all the records and we picked the ones. No, you have to be a part. So it's the same thing with rock and Roll Hall

of Fame and anything else. I think we don't go hard enough for our legends. Should being a card in the one easy being another cardinal one. As far as executives, these are probably two of the most important executives in the history of hip hop or music, and they're not celebrated like the other guys. Yeah, what Tupuc was the first solo hip hop artist to ever be inducted into

the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And you have to ask yourself if, yeah, if he wasn't the Sea, if Snoop is not in the hall, rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the Sloop not in this ship? How ship not talking about how big in it? Forget all of that. How is big? Because they can't they can't paying for him. Reggie, when I tell you glasses had um, you had a thing. What's that room that you like going on clubhouse? Clubhouse? We had a thing on Clubhouse

where we get a versus for Tupuck versus Biggie. I left that motherfucker after while because it was so many New York people. They got the cheating dog like they had Biggie Records that was beating Tupac Records because it was all New York people and they're voting, and I was like, that's some bullshit. I'm just chat. It's hard for us to ever be biased, right because if you like hip hop and eighties you grew up to East Coast sucking hip hop. Well she gee, I was very

non biased, you see. I voted on the one because better than this Tuth because because if you liked hip hop in the eighties, right, then you grew up on East Coast hip hop and ain't getting out of it. But they didn't grow up on West Coast hip hop. They was greatly saying, Reggie, oh yeah, I like that

Tuthparc record. But I'm right with big big New York people feel like they have some sort of profit sharing equity in hip hop in general from the yeah, and then well that's feeling because they were there and they were contributed to the culture. Somehow, somebody says it's better than this than they're guys record that like slights their own identity. It's like like all cigar lives are full of old guys from New York and all the same thing is so personal about it but what's funny is

in real time Peter, that was Peter talk. That's sorry. Wow, what's funny is a lot of he got a lot of smart. Yeah, man, I learned a lot of a lot of soaring is Soaring is great at sowing my ship together. When I have two ideas, he connects, I'm like, oh, this is the person that But let me say this, So the niggas in New York didn't even show Biggie all the love in real time, Like niggas was this and Biggie like I was looking that ship up and I was like a lot of niggas was this big

selling more than big back then? It wasn't get better. Mr still did better than all Ready to Die? Remember that and Nigga's sleep and niggas this LLL A lot New York do not put enough proper respect on the legend that is LLL coo J. I've always said that like allle was everybody's nick. We all everybody around the country loved l L. Yeah, well it's like a lu queens.

You guys don't know like to can be like gon do like the media bias though on it, like as far as the purest you know, paradigm on nonsense, like the Chronic got like jobbed for a Grammy for Onyxes album Onxes album over a Chronic and the Chronic was like politically driven still to go with everything, Adam really good. We've been guard Brooks the country a country act with doggy style. Yeah, from New York. They wouldn't They couldn't compete.

At that time, death became death Row became well, I think death New York one of one of the um Snoop's number one market, wasn't that one of his top markets country music? No I'm talking, wasn't New York one

of his top markets for sale? It had to be if you're gonna wine when they started hating, That's why everybody always thinks that East Coast West Coast beef was beyond death Row and bad boys always said no. The pds, the radio directors, that was the program directors, that was that called that be They stopped playing West Coast music like like they didn't play like the West Coast pds played. You came out here and Kelly or Texas or whatever, you heard Biggie music all day. Biggie was at the

palace least once a month. Performing at the clubs out here in l A. And you know what, we should have shut that motherfucker down, because that's what I always hated about l A radio. They was always on the East coast nets Man and you go back East Dog. They wasn't trying to support us like that. They didn't. Most people don't even know who Sugar for You is on the East coasts. That's that's a that's a that's a hip hop travesty. To not enjoy the brilliance a

fucking sugar Free. Name somebody who of all he's got with four features albums, he's got five solo albums. Name a track than sugar Free has been on. Where the other guy on the track, no matter who the hell it was, sounded as good as him on that track sugar Everything he come on, I don't think really sugar Free. What's funny? Sugar Free is such an underrated rapper, Like he's Arizona for sure. He stops at got Right in Aza. But what's what's surprising is how many people are discovering

him now on the East Coast on their own. Like a lot of my partners, they like that sugar Free ship. It's dope. But but also I think that's our fault. We have to do a much better job of carrying our coach. You mean we don't do a good job. Too Short had the pimp and stuff. Back then we would listen to Too Short In New York. They the shortest. The original Short is the original. Oh yeah short. But I didn't he was more. I don't know if he got ran out of Oakland or he just migrated to Atlanta.

But by going to Atlanta I think helped him a lot as well. When he talked to me about it, and he said he ended up down there just on some like saving money ship. Right. Yeah, you know he's from he's from a leg to a teenager. He moves up to Oakland. He's doing this thing with Dean and them and all the guys, and he's popping. But it's a time when things is getting drawn on the West Coast after poc right, things is getting dry. It's not a lot of opportunities. He said. He went down there,

he said, like freak NICKI went Braas. But he said when he went down and looked at the cost of living, he said, hm, I need to you know, he made a finan your decision and it ended up being one of the greatest business decisions he made. It was to save money, but he ended up in where Little John was starting to really you know, you kind of make

the same case for like pimp going to Atlanta. Not for the money because it's cheaper in Port Arthur than anywhere in the universe, but like he stumbled into Atlanta at the right time to help his career. Yeah, it was Short, but Short has always seemed to find himself historically in the right places. Got a good dude because

I hit him the other day. Whenever I hit Short, he's one of the O g rappers that hits me break back immediately if he don't hit like that, because I know a whole bunch of these dudes and they had take like two weeks to hit you back. And it's cool. You know what I'm saying. I'm not tripping, but Short, it's always the same person. Iced Tea is the same way. I know Iced Tea. I'm like Ice Man, I got an idea, Man, Tim, did you think about this? He's like, all right, give me a second. I'm on this.

Ask what you said. The nigga is responding to my text message on the set of a Hollywood TV show. So, I mean there's some people who take their role, and I think Snoop has gotten better taking this role as an elder, a lot better. Like it was a time when it was real bad. When we first came in the game, it was like fucked up Snoop. You know one thing I will say about Snoop g and I'm as say this publicly. Um, And I'm not saying this because he has to do it, but it's kind of like, Um,

it's one of the things I'm talking about. Eight asked Snoop to come on the show and he hit him with He just looked at him, said I think about it. But if them dudes, Gilly and them hit them back East or whoever hit them back East, you would see Snoop pop up on the stepping with them. Nor You're bevery with James, you know, Reggie right, Yeah, you can't be over there a little bit. Them nig has been

talking bad about dog. I don't like that ship. Y'all niggas could say that ship for mother niggas, But I mean, no, we really talk bad about Snoop, say about yeah, because Snoop told the story about things where he called him out on Yeah, so did he not fun to come to do your show? You're not. You can't just be over there talking about the dog. Yeah. Woman still ain't saying nothing about the dog. It's not normous, you not but you. It's not just you, it's James. It's his past.

It's about it. And I'm gonna tell you this is the honest to god true Snoop. Maybe six seven months ago, eight months ago, he reached out the James through you know, fine Me, through the Honi Joseph Finbie, right, so we got a bridge with each other. He reached out the James to Finebie, but he never called He asked for James number and everything. He's never called him. You're figured out men here do things on his time. But all them dudes got a lot of history. Let me clear

this up for somebody running back. Snoop is not obligated to come on against the Chronicles or nothing else. He's the motherfucking dog. He could do what he wants to. You're the king of the coast. But I don't think if he don't funk with the coach, I think, like the more I get about Snoop, and you know this, is crazy. And this goes back to Sugar even more so, he created probably one of the five most popular people

on the planet Earth. Now it don't seem as popular as it is, right, But who's more popular than Snoop Mickey Mouse, Michael Jackson, Jesus. Maybe, I mean, because Jesus is so many different Jesus. I don't know what Jesus Jesus because because Jesus, because we don't all share the same image into Jesus. But we know we all know Jesus. So Jesus, I'm not I'm really careful with my words. Mickey Mouse, Michael Jackson. And it's gonna get thin with niggas,

and and and again. I had to realize this fucking with him, and I tell like, I told him that just like Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan Snoop might be the same, Collie Brown and Snow might be the same. They might be Michael Jordan's Snoop might be the same. Michael Snoop Dogg is as popular as Michael Jordan's. Yes, Michael Jordan's Yes, most we don't even know Michael Jordan is. They know about Jordan's shoes. They don't know that Michael Jordan's. They

don't know shi about Michael Jordan. Snoop Dogg is Snoop Dogg. People don't know Michael Jordan's exactly stupid as commercial and the right. We were just talking about Mike the other day. Mike is the greatest score and to guard ever. But we this is this. You your dig this, and I gotta get about there. You dig this. Scottie Pippen has been complaining about how Michael Jordan has been pushing his

narrative right now. Right after winning the championships, Michael Jordan was a lot more grateful to Scottie Pippen, you know, and Dennis Rome and he you know, I always tell people I grew up, you know, I'm I'm I'm a I'm an infant of the eighties, right, so I remember the eighties, and I remember what niggas would say about Jordan's. Niggas don't have the highest praise none of that ship. It was like, oh, that naked dump he could score, that's all you get. But in the nineties when he

started to win, right, they got Scottie. Scottie started helping him and they start putting it together. They put their run together, came back the second time, Shock put work on him. They got robbing to put their second run together. Right after that, people didn't start saying Michael Jordan was the greatest until after he retired, because you gotta remember, like Magic Johnson, you had just watched Magic Johnson dominate

the eighties. You went, you watched him one five ships, three m vps, two finals, MVP in the finals every other year, you know, nine ten times you had seen dominators before. You wasn't that far removed from what Bill Russell had did in the sixties. You wasn't that far removed from greatness. So Michael Jordan was challenged. When he had three rings, people was like, yeah, that's cool, you

got three rings. That's that's nice. And and the second read people was like, because I remember watching, I was like when he won this, til ain't your tips, Like he might be the best. So I think he got a time to sit with it since ninety eight and decide like, damn I might. I'm really the best, you know what I mean. And then it's been going to his head and and over the time he's been doing really weird stuff to me, you know, the lands dance and all this stuff where it's like you're making this

a little too personal. We already made it about you, nigga. We made it about you. We did that for you. But when you start doing it, it's like when Lebron called himself the best basketball player on the planet. My nigga, I've never in my life heard nobody say that. Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Shaquille O'Neill, never heard nobody say I'm the best basketball player on the planet. So when you start making it about yourself, you almost put yourself in a

position now to where people was like, hold up. And so Scottie is like, wait a minute, you didn't have a winning season until I played with you, right, So I compared it to I said, Michael Jackson is Michael Jordan's, but Scottie Pippen is Temperton the way we remember Michael

Jordan at the highest level. Right, it's because about Scott though, what do you think about pucking out and uh when they had that boy from the that uh number seven, I can't think his name, the European player that they had on the I mean you mean you mean when Phield Drew to play up for him instead of instead of Pipping. Remember what I remember about Scottie Pippen is when he was guarding Matt Johnson and we lost to the Motherfucker's That's what I remember. I remember that only one.

I remember that, and it hurt my heart. So I'm aware of exactly who Scottie Pipping is to the team. But Michael Jackson, right, Michael Jackson without Rock with You and the Thriller album and Thriller, the song itself, that video, he's Prince Thriller, He's prince, He's Prince without Thriller, Without Thriller, he was bigger than that before Thriller. Then they did the Pepsi commercial before Thriller. Remember remember that, Remember that's

part of that's Rock with You. So without Rober So what I'm saying, rob getting this here, catching on fire from from from from from the pep Pepsi commercial before. But I still think he was just ours at that point. I still think he was just our community at that point, like he was starting to get out there. But Thriller transition him into a place to where I'm up. I was looking transition transitioned, He transitioned into a version of himself like we've never seen that before we had never

seen what Michael Jackson had became after Thriller. But then he showed you in black or white. No no, not not no no, like a Hundio remember Thriller. That he didn't have neo writers that before Chris Browns. So he needed Scott So in other words, you said he needed a Scottie Pippen, he needed rod Temperature. Yeah. I think that's what Rodney Jerkins the Thriller down. And it didn't

work out. Yeah, it didn't work out. But but that's my But that's my point though, right, is the Michael Jordan's So not us who watched sports, right, who watched basketball. We know Michael Jordan as a score. We watched him do his thing. But the way the rest of the world hold him his marketing tag. What you talk about is six and oh you talk about the fact he's six, and you talk about his m vps, you talk about that type of dominance. Right, that's where got You know,

we got fucker players bigger than Michael Jordan's. Yeah, you messing out of the country. Maga ban them niggas might be Snoop Dogg's eyes little though Nick's and that ship night man, she got that ship right. When he got it right. Man, when he got it right, he got it right. When I said you Shi got it right, he got it right. The times she got it right, Snoop, he got it right. They got that him and Dre got that ship right. Like I never give Snoop just credit.

You know the monster that should and Drake created with Snoop dog You gotta give him credit for the chronic. You gotta give him credit for dog stad. You gotta give him credit for murder with the case. You gotta give him credit for the dog food all in the contract. Now, everything I see you be on bond first on Nick is gonna talk bad. But in the contract, I've never seen this ship. Even when I signed the cash money, I didn't have no ship like this in the contract

that Tupac Hand wrote. I'm we're gonna do a podcast about this that Tupac Hand wrote he wrote for a year. Right now, I'm talking about the one that he wrote in his hand, right, okay, right? He wrote feature with Snoop Dogg. And then he had the one remix song by Dre who puts another rapper. That's how great that monster that Sugar and Drake created is a stoop dogg. He knew it. I'm only coming there if this is

where I'm coming. And I said this on the Breakfast Club and the nigga got mad at me, and obviously every Tupop fake fan because I'm a real tuthpop fan. I actually really grew up listening to Tupac music. I'm actually a fan of him. It actually bothered me when everything happened to him, Like I've been a fan. But what kills me is when I told people, if you look at his book list in prison, you do what

you do? A video given home much the baby Lane, I don't stop it, but people really, but people felt like really feel like it's hot because they really feel like it's homage. Just like Bro, you can't even tell Tupac would have love my fucking song right now. He's in heaven, like man, that nigga hard. But because because no one supports your coast, I mean, no one made Biggie must Die from New York? Did they? Who the fun Biggie? Everybody that know what happened to Biggie? You don't,

I don't even I wouldn't even know what. That's not some street ship niggas don't really fucking no, I've never heard that store in the streets. The first time I heard it was on Internet and I heard Red talked about who might have did it. I don't even know what was the motivation. I don't know what happened. That's not some like street ship that you don't hear about, Like, that's like high level ship. That was like some ship. Nick,

he wasn't there. I wasn't there. H knew what happened to Listen, Red knew what happened to Pock five minutes after it happened. He knew what he knew, who did it, and what happened. We all knew what happened to Pock. Suge knew what happened to Pock right on the spot. Every well knew. We didn't know that. We didn't know the people, but we knew the area and we knew what it was about, and we knew the people. Like in the night that night, people was like, oh man,

you heard the story. You heard when the nigga got jumped, like the ship was calling back. It's normal. So Biggie ship was so next level, you know what I mean that it was like that was like a real hit. That's not like no upset nigger that just got into a fight. That's like somebody knew what they was doing. You know what I'm saying. They knew what they was doing. But the point I'm saying is Tupac understood what should

was able to do with Snoop. He knew if he got next to Snoop and saying that ship, he was saying, it was over. He knew it if he because when you heard it, he was like, oh ship. You could hear Tupac Melia. I've heard Tupac way before that a lot of times. First record, second record, third record, all of that, because they were great. But when he stood next to Snoop and we're saying that ship, it almost gave you a measure and stick where you could be like,

oh ship music award. Man. It starts being there. It's it's like, oh ship. You know what I'm saying, Oh ship, look at that ship there, and oh man, Snoop is so fun great man, Snoop is so awesome and I love and what's funny is speaking of that. I'm gonna

say this, and I got to go say this. I got to go, um, you know who cuts me out the most about Tupac Mustarter soon jan No, James actually just explained to me, and he explained to me in the most simplest voice and told me how it hurt his feelings, and you know how it was like digging him like that actually probably made me feel the worst. When he described it to me, I was like, damn, that dude sound fucked up, Like I didn't even think about it like that, but you know, it cuts me

out the worst. The nigger who Pop talked the worst about Dre. Really, Dre had the most tongue, like the most lit for me when it came down to it. He was drunk, but he was so when so when O g drunk, like I'm not really chicking, like are you drunk? Tripping? You feel me? But Dre really tried to make me feel bad, like I mean, he was like, man, why the funk would you do that? Like do what? Because like, what's the problem? Man? Why are you saying this? Nigga?

I didn't say fuck to who the funk was the funk? Tupac like what are you talking about? Like he just didn't not it was no matter what the song was about. How I told him like, Yo, the song is not negative towards Tupac in no way. It's not disrespecting his legacy, is not disrespecting him. It's telling a gang bang story that he happened to be involved in. It didn't matter. Ranch the nigga wanted me to apologize. I'm looking at that nigga like thinking, you slap deep Orange, you then

just funk easy. All this crash ship. You want me to apologize about making it? And he was serious. Red It wasn't nothing. He was so serious. He talked to me because like my grandfather something. Bro. He was like, yesh, I'm listen, glasses, this ship is not cool. I'm like, doc, because you're almost city. How are you telling me about what's cool. I'm thinking to myself, like think of what and I'm listening, And he gave me the most shit about it. Quick Andre hates the drummer. Well, how the

fund is? They always disting the ship out of somebody, Ain't that a bitch? That's what killed me with all these niggas. These niggas be mad at me about my ideas. No, no, no, see that's that bullshit. Rich You can't raise niggas on this ship. And get mad with niggas. Be on this ship. I'm on this ship. Reg how a nigga can't be mad about you? I'm a fan of Tupac. This is I swear. When I wrote the song I called still,

I said, I just wrote this song. They got two pop energy in it, Like this is a kind of people can't get mad at you. The people that get mad at you probably are the ones to be over there pumping up keep talk about he's a comedian and he's funny and he need to have stem up, stand up comment and all of that. I don't get it. I don't get it. Like but but you know, also we also grew up in a society where we feel like we have to take a side. I don't gotta

take nobody's side. Two niggas got into it, niggas died. That happens all my whole fucking life. I don't know no other way. I ain't never got to take a side nigga niggas from the seven. So my point is Chris. That's what thing about Chris Boyd. They're loyal to the soiler yea, oh the same. So check us out spotted from East Coat, I from seventh Street. We got the sevens in common. That's the sevens save most sevens than that. So I don't feel like I'm taking baby Lane side

and picking baby Lane. And I don't know how I didn't make the babe listen from the point of view, because every last person had told the story from Tupac's point of view. The story has always been told that something that just was a hater that was jealous did this. That's the only story. I think people more it was more upset because it was some inacturies and inaccuracies in

the video. But but but you have to make it a little inaccurate because if you actually said that, if you actually, if I go out of my way to say, hey, nobody took trade change, it really looked bad. It didn't take. That's not the point again, it looks really bad because then it looked like just some gang shit. No, no, it's not. It was because of Tupac felt his loyalty to death Row. It's not just as simple as I'm

not saying Tupac wasn't claiming the mob. Obviously, fucking Stevie Wonder could see Tupac was claiming, but around but he was loyal. I think it's been loyal to and but that's my point. That's that's where I was getting to. But he was loyal to the niggas. That was he had never felt that kind of love. I know how this gang banger ship worked. Man, Niggas take you in and you know, niggas that do anything for you. Man, it's a different feeling that he was able to feel

being a part of this ship. That's what all these niggas really want. So when yeah, yeah, because and then you gotta remember the the the he was the richest nigga in the thug life movement. I mean, so he got some niggas off the corners and make it from photis right, that was with it. But when he got with Death Road, you got with the mob. They got real paper and there were some real goons. They was with all the bushes. So and they're like, yeah, we

would do whatever you want to do to these niggers. Man. That type of love and power, you know what I mean, Like, I get why so, But that's why I'm also really careful with telling the story in a way that fits why so you don't look at it like it's just some bullshit old or oh what they didn't If they don't take the chain, what am I mad at? Because two hang members gown to a fight. No, So you make the story simple, you make it digestible for people. And he said, Okay, this is why he was upset

because this chain was took ing from this person. It's not about that they're not taking he did not take the chain. Okay, I'm telling you, But it's not the point. It's when niggas tell his story. All these crackers telling these stories. My bad, you know, a cracker. But when these crackers tell these stories, dog, you feel me. They don't call him niggas and say, hey this, I'm making

an appelling story. Because if you make it look like that, then you can understand Tupac's rage when he found out that Nigga was around this nigg got done wrong to somebody he was loyal to and a label, and a label that bailed him out of jail. So I made the story simple. If it's just a game, right, yeah, But if it's just a leg but but I don't know. The title was like a movie thing. But I understand. But the thing is, I don't think I took baby

Larry sick. I think I told hip hop all about Redge and this is something you can relate to because you know about hip hop. You've been in and long enough and you've seen it. It's about giving a voice to the voiceless, the miss and not an un illrepresented people that's not represented, you know what I mean. So when you hear a story and all you hear is all he's a hater or this nigga, this is that the third of this nigger and you're like, well, no,

I understand how we live culturally and why you feel like. Man, if if if that happens to Baby Lane and he comes back to Compton, can you know what niggas is gonna say about him? No? No, no, not not not not not after if he does nothing. Oh if you didn't do that, Oh yeah, they had to retaliate. Ye. Your baby mama gonna be like, man, man, you let that rap. You know when that rapper nigga did that ship to you. I always said that. I think you

walk around the shirt with a white beater on. The more he imagine the soldier boys slapped you across your face and you'll do nothing. Sold If soldier boys slapped me across. And I'm not calling Tupac soldier boy. I'm saying somebody that's not involved with the lifestyle. Yeah, anybody's not involved with the lifestyle. Like if Shook fired on me and not if I ship back, Nick is gonna make jokes. Sure, I mean it's it's gonna be a

certain way. We're gonna talk about it. But if somebody who you feel is not a part of the lifestyle, bro, you got to do something. I didn't think even if I were have known about it, I wouldn't have thought they would retaliated that quick. Gonna be honest, I wouldn't have thought they would retaliated there but in Compton and

they're gonna go crazy. But but but also I'm thinking, like, if this happens, are you because this ain't your first rodeo, you didn't like I'm sure baby land him and jump before this is part of the territory, you know what I I mean. Maybe he hasn't, but I would imagine he has, right, And nig would be from Santana probably says he was alive at this point, right, so you know you've been jumped.

But the type of embarrassment, the type of embarrassments you have, you know what I mean when somebody feel that's not affiliated with the culture. He right, we would have had a hundred jokes point rids a thousand fucking jokes. Oh man, niggas would have had a hundred job That's like it sold the way slaping nicker right and sold they slap dog red. Do you know how many jokes you'll be making about me? You know what many jokes to slap you like that? It'll be a joke that rights itself.

So you know, because all you have when you come from our community, that's the that's the moral of the story. Morality. You know, when you come from our community, you have to protect your reputation. It's your most prized you know, it's your most price possession. You're right before before we get out of here, let's talk about your podcast that you've got coming up. For a little bit of stuff we're going on. You gotta motherfucking podcast. Hold on, niggas,

you're trying to advertise on that show. You got past what's called you right there and or the O G Gangs chronicles. We haven't came up with the what we're gonna do. You know what what he got two podcasts. He got one because you know Reggs like to talk. Regg to be on there every night. So we got both sides of Reggie right, and we got the O G Gangster Chronicles. We really that's gonna be the first episode. We're gonna do what. I don't know what we're gonna do.

One about your boy. I t we're gonna tell the story I gotta do to go, tell the whole story about the robbery and all of that and getting the boy killed, almost going to jail. Heard about that. Yeah, I got the older players and everybody, they say, shit happened one thing about Ice. They say, some ship gonna happen. You ain't gonna play. I'm old man. That's fine. Funk with you old niggas. You old niggas is trifling, bro, old niggas, bro were stabbing it your generation. Stabb. I

think he's gonna We've been around talking about I drives ship. Yeah, said that. I've been working on that. So so my thing is your old niggas played different. You nigga stab each other this ship, y'all look at each other's eye, y'all. Nigga is some treacheres now I already. You listen to older niggas wrapping ship. You niggas be talking about raping niggas. I'm not funking with you, nigga. That's why if I ever had beef with all the nigga, I'm just killing.

I'm not gonna try to negotiate a settle nothing, because you niggas will do like treachery ship to each other. Niggas cut each other heads off and hang them on like bro, I don't know what are y'all doing this is we could just eliminate the problem. Y'all get out of hand and think y'all like from like Greece or something, or like you know, Rome, and do little silly ship. I don't know what y'all problem is. You niggas is treacherous, and I think y'all just traumataged from something happen to

y'all this tithing man. I think they're they're less removed from a meaningful like from a climate of meaningful war where they understand the value of ultimate victory. I don't even know be raping each other and ship and the nigga is different. Nigga, see gotta something about raping somebody with a hanger. I was like, first off, why are you think it's something issue? The who tang was wrapping about smoking charm and ship and all kind of crazy ship.

I don't know that my own niggas are different, but that's it in the man, no sellings up in this motherfucker looking out, Reds, make sure you'll check out that both sides of the fence, Redge, I want to hear some fucking police stories. Use a fucking police I want to hear, and I want you to tell on yourself. I want you to tell on everybody else. Now I want you to tell me that time you took that three birds from one nigg or something, or you let the wrong nigga off. I need both sides of the fence.

So are you're trying what are you trying to get? No he because Red's gonna tell him. He gonna tell me everything Dash did, snoop did, Ship did? Tell me what you did? That's what that's what to be dope, because Reds can really talk about sucking up and also fucking up both ways. If I'm telling that, I mean I was there, I know, but now I need you so you was there with yourself, So I want to know the time when you tried to rest that hooker and she gave you some pussy, so you I want

to hear all the story. You know, his wife, I want to hear about them. I want to hear about when the woman offered you some pussy and you had to think about it and turn it down. There had to be somebody, fine, somebody tried to almost corrupt you. Nobody's uncorrupted asnorable man though. I want to hear Reggie. I want to hear Reggie talk about the times he was corrupted before he stopped his job. That's what I just got. All the prison. They shouldn't even put you

in prison for that. You should sue him right now. That ship legal, Now, that's ship bullshit.