Conversations About Statutory Rape

decisions at that age. I think men are violating the law right. So I think men that commits statutory rape is a bit you know, weird and ship and creepy. But I don't think women are as choiceless in the matter. I don't think it's even as much as they don't know what they want. You know, what does that makes sense? Like, because when women as they get older, they still kind of want the same exact thing they start I do,

forgive me. So I do think there are situations where some women are getting took advantage of young girls, but I don't think that's the majority of the conversation when it comes think that's like rape and self just well, statutory rape is weird, right because it's called like if your parents are proven, it's not really a crime. So,

like we're talking about R Kelly. R Kelly got charged on the Child Pornography Act, the Federal Child Pornography Act, where if you record somebody younger than six teams in the sexual Act, that's a Child Pornography Act um. More times than not, in the United States of America, there's more states that are sixteen. Is that's the legal age of consent that you can consent to sex independently. Some

states a seventeen caliph on your rs as eighteen. So when you hear the turn statutory rate, it's really rooted in your parents. You don't have you're not of legal age to consent to have sex. At seventeen. You're not of legal age to consent to have sex. I mean you you can't legally consent to have sex. So if someone has sex with you again and you didn't you know, no matter if you said O care not for me, it could be considered statutory right, That's what I'm saying. No,

don't smoke at all. You pa'ss that thing all the wever. So that's what I was saying. Well, R Kelly, So when we're talking about R. Kelly specifically, and you you're saying he them girls are victims, you know they're not. Because I was speaking as like, being fourteen years old, I don't think that you're you don't have that mentality or the adultnesship to make those type of decisions of what you really want. Shouldn't be up there. Yeah, you

shouldn't be out at at fourteen. You should be focusing on school. Right, But I already knew that it's crazy. I know because I'll be reading so much. Right says that every every other state has the right, um, the limit is eighteen. But in the US, um, you just there's no limit if you have your parents consent or a judicial to a period. Because most parents wouldn't consent

to that. Yes they do, even the women that are even the women like I feel like the parents that do give their children over their money hungry, and I feel like that's the old school. Like around my grandmother's age, I feel like they used to get their children up to older men for money reasons. I mean, I don't

think they made money. I think genuinely that the world was you started faster, like I think our our are obviously of of you know, and I'm not a parent, so I can't really, but I think we definitely like to keep children younger today and then we're gonna talk shit about them being other countries, they do push you to grow up faster, you start working early, you start being an adult way because you already you know it's funked up, because right, it used to be women would

have periods around thirteen four, two years old, all its hormones and food ship now girls, so that was literally the natural time of beginning womanhood. But obviously white folks start with the food ship ships happening way too fast. But there is a questionable desire, right that's going on right when you even let's say, like you were saying you were fourteen and some older guy was on you,

right sure, which was just crazy as my age. What about the sex brothels where they're breeding children just so rich, disgusting man did have sex. I don't even know where that's it. I know it's real, I'm not I'm not saying it's not real. It's obviously real, but I'm saying I don't want to get that far into that crazy ship. I feel like even without a law, without a cap, there is something in me nobody needs to tell me, just like how I feel like you already have God

in you. You feel you know, it feels good, you know what's what feels wrong? Like I feel like, as a man, you should know that being thirty five years old, nobody has to tell you because to me, I feel like the law is already written for the white man. This is because they're into this type of perversion and ship like that. Like, I feel like you should know that if you're thirty five years old and you see at fourteen year old girl, why why does that attrack you?

Like the law says okay or not? Shouldn't it already be like to you? Like, why why are you attracted to ye? The only thing you can drack from a child is to use them, abuse them and whole. But

it's different, it's different. This is a child. He's only I'm not I'm not disagreeing, but again, you're you're asking a question to somebody that I cannot understand why somebody would date somebody eighteen right, But but we were talking about it last time, right in force some backup in the spot Hill Joey west Side l A Giants of course, my co host Asia red Pete on Hiatus to Date, feel me no challenge the local um in the spot like that. What I'm saying is I agree with you

in his mind. I think his mind is the mind that's messed up. The difference is when we're talking about a fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year old woman's mind, I don't think their mind is messed up. That's the point I'm saying to you. They're making the same choice they will make. No, no, no, I get what you're saying, because us even at at you're still looking for that same exact thing that you were looking for when you

were that age. Now the man the difference is what I'm saying is your child, So you're just looking you know at your surroundings. Are people that you older women that you see you looking at them to trying to find your way. You don't really know yet. You're still learning this world, so you really don't know exactly what it is that you want. And if you have a parent or a guardian or someone that's looking over the right way, you wouldn't go in that direction, but that's

not true or Kelly situation. That's my point. The parents literally okay, so let's let's be honest, right, yeah they were looking. Yeah it was not but like I said, some of them do that in other countries to their children. Right now, y'all looking at women, right, rid, you got a daughter, brid you got a daughter to right, you have a son, so you don't know, I mean you know, but yeah you got a daughter, don't have one? And if you did, would you allow you? This is not

even this is not realistic. IM not saying it's okay. We're not talking about the man. I think men are messed up. I think men vicariously so men try to live through young women. That's how they feel like they're holding onto their youth. It's weird and creepy. It's not worth being young that much. I mean, I guess the thought of avoiding death is where they think it lies. Another way to do it though, but it's not actually going to work at all, And you really think about

you're not really holding it. Yeah, but it's not it's not it's not that it's it's it's all kind of like an are you saying that as females were so mature that we know at a young age what we want. I think you keep that's the point I'm saying the government so like, like speaking for myself. When I was in middle age, in high school, teenage, yeah, I knew that I wanted an older guy because I knew I was going to be provided for. I didn't date guys my age. Yeah, and that's pretty much the truth. I

knew what I wanted at a young age. My sister told me. My sister told me. She said, the guys my age and the older guys want the exact same thing. The only difference is the older guys have a car and some money. And I'm not saying it's okay for the guy, like I'm not fighting against the law. The law is the law for a reason. I genuinely think women are gonna make bad decisions. They hold life as a child, and so as a child be years old, that was a bad decision. No, But I think that's

you the consistent decision you'll make. I think we wosponsibility. I wouldn't have made that to be my pregnant. He wouldn't have been like the kidnapper was coming up or a little kids with candy or somebody and the kid ain't exactly. But I don't I don't know if that's really exactly. I don't know if that's that's what you just said. That was a great analogy. Yeah, but you're gonna attract women with money their whole life. It's attractive.

So like Sylvia at fourteen, Sylvia at twenty four, Sylvia at thirty four, Sylvia at forty four, is gonna always be attracted to money. Now at fourteen, did she know what really money looked like? No, all she knows is somebody to have more money than fourteen year old a girl, four to ye old girl. But she's still attracted to money. She's still attracted to, you know, finances we're not talking about. Yeah,

exactly the situation that I was putting. Had I had a stable, I wouldn't have tried to find it in a older adult. Even right now, as in the dog, you still look for me to take care of you because I've already built my personality starting so young where it's already there. Say it right now, hopes to find a manner take care of her. I don't know. I want. My goals in life is to be very, very independent

and not need anyone for ship. I don't want that's but that's not dating for a potential because I want to build somebody up and I just want to be built up and appreciate. It's not the fact that I need there that's It's not that I need someone to do this because before I even had someone, I've always been care of myself. I have my own apartment, like, so I don't need it. This is what I've been want because I definitely don't want to work a nine five and have a little bit of nothing and really

getting by. Yeah, why not to do it? I don't. I'm not Again, these are finishing you complaints from each side. Of course, you want somebody to say you just home. Listen. You just don't like the terminology because it makes you feel helpless. But it doesn't mean yes. But I know you like the terminology bothers you because it makes you feel like you're helpless. That's not true. It really is somebody. You ought to think when somebody asked to marry you.

For the most part, and I was explaining this to Joy, if you ask to marry somebody, you're pretty much asking a woman to let me take care of you for the rest of my life. I want to. But when they try to say but they just change me and tell me that this is right and this is wrong, like let me beat me, let me say what I want to say and do. There's no it's okay, go ahead. I'm listening to consider, like if what you're saying is right or wrong? And if do you tell your kids

what to do? Not really like to a certain extent, because I don't want to crush her spirit, and like whatever she naturally has inside her, I want to magnify it. Like she's very confident right now, so I want to keep that. And why I feel like, why are you that way? Because I felt like I wasn't as confident as she is. You know, she looked at herself and she was like, oh, yes, you know. I don't want to kill that. But sometimes she she thinks she's too grown and she could do what I do, and I

have to put her in her place. But why because she cannot do what I Why because she's a child. She literally can do everything you can do. I mean from that perspective, yes, of course, technically how she can do She's not even thinking about that that's not even drugs. Like, but but I'm saying to you, you know, the opportunity so obviously not a ten year old child, right, you shouldn't even be thinking about sick. You're not even but it's putting their face on all plas. Yeah, but that

don't matter. Like once you start having administruations and puberty, the innate desire to procreate coming to play, Like even if you don't pay attention, you start feeling is weird. That's why men start jagging off real Yeah, I just I just brushed up against it. But that's my point. We were talking about that earlier when this has happened, that the food is sucking shut up, and it's forcing

it earlier. So I'm not I'm not necessarily referring to that seven years old you're like fully develop walking around here with assent titties. It's the hormones that yeah, the kids. So no, what I'm saying on that level is I think you make this so now is it shouldn't be against the law. Yes, you know, I think men at a certain place, Um, I don't have to have a kid to not agree with that law. I mean, like like I don't have to have a kid to agree

with the law. I understand the concept of the law as a man thirty five years old is looking at somebody for a team, no matter how developed she is. Soon she started talking to realize she's sucking for Yeah, exactly. I don't care about them. But again, something inside of a man that's thirty five, if you're okay with that. And there's some men who really love women at fourteen. Yes, I don't know what I used to Guys used to sit outside of my junior high school in their cars

waiting on us to get out of school. And they were all adults. So that's just weird, right, And and I know guys like that, But I think what I've got from those older dudes that I remember they were trying to live like, So I think this is what I think I could be being judgmental. Forgive me to all the dudes out there that's doing this, even though

you're a little weird. Though I'm not trying to judge you, but I genuinely think your penis is small, right, So you're like you're trying to get something fresh or something I don't like understand why, Yes, they control the older ones, Yes, work when you deal with a older what you want to get baby? Right? So you have you ever heard a woman you can control? Joey, But it's not if you wanted to manipulate every woman all the time. Have you can no manipulate every last woman that's been in

your life if you wanted to truly manipulate them and controlled. Yes, if it's just listen, if it's no whole bar, so you have no conscious idea of worrying about what you're doing. Every woman can be controlled by me, not every woman. I've never been tamed in my life. But that's that's the point, right, And I got you early. So now you feel like you you don't want to be you

you I will not, I will not. But that's again that's because every woman, but that only you're not being tamed now, how you think in your mind and not in my mind? I know for sure? Yes, huh? I think you know you can't because if somebody can manipulate you, you're being Yeah, she's been manipulated multiple time. Yeah, as a kid is younger, you can't do it now. Yeah, but that's different because now you're not. Now you won't even let love happen because at the some place you

think somebody always trying to manipulae. So then that's not the same. You just traumatize. You're not telling whatever it is, I cannot be you tell me yourself like you tell me yourself. You're like, I'll show this nig nigga, Like, damn, I'm just trying to marry you. That nigga. You think you nigga trying to take advantage of me. Ni what you think you're gonna be opening my door? You think you will be opening my door for me forever. Nigga, Me,

that ain't gonna change. Ye're gonna change ship. You'll marry me and put me in the house. Who do you think you're playing with? Nigga, I'm gonna listen to you. You mean to tell me, nigga, you're gonna take out the trash heavy week? Do you think you slick? He's like himself out the trash. They meet me and it's a motherfucker man, he said lovely when he gets to us, I get I like, yeah, but that's but that's what

does You went through something? Yea so so so then you actually making me you're making me reconsider my thought because at a certain place. If it harms you, then you do become a victim. So if you're harmed by what happened with you choosing that, you know the older guy right with your fourteen year old brain, and it it's harmed you, right, because that's what you're saying, it's harmed. You didn't there is a victim. Most fourteen year olds are harmed, That's what I'm saying. So I didn't know

you was harmed. So that's dope to find out. That's that's a really good thing, you know. That's the that's the trauma. That's something. Trauma is something that will make you have your guards up. Of course, you know what I'm saying. That's crazy. So but do you like so do you only like today older men? Now? No? Because God, she's been Dave forever and it's like, okay, and I met him in junior high school. She won't let that nigga love him. You think you're sticking you borm me

these flowers, nothing gonna happen. Yeah, okay, So he's like he always telled me, like when you get too close or get to love you, w I kind pull away And like why you just won't let me love you like you can't love me, weird like kind of like. And I've been with him for years, I lived together. It's like, but when it's too like, it's just I don't know inside, I just get real uncomfortable and I'll go to the I gotta go do this. You know what's funny is that's crazy. Van. He's dealt with it.

Van and Charlotte Maagne you like Dave and I'll be on it. But you need a therapist. I've had plenty. You need more because it's not a bad thing because it's not it's not a but it's not a bad it's not it's not what it means because there's unresolved things up. There's unresolved things. I'm telling you you you really I've had you know what it is. And maybe if I had a therapist that was black and no, yeah, I got to be a real thing. Of them has

been like white. So I'm like, you can't possibly understand. You don't even let the therapist. Do you think you shouldn't? You're trying to fix my problems, not like that. But if you're if you're racist, you just assume I talked to older men because I was younger. There's nowhere a white person can teach me or tell me anything because you're not coming from how you're thinking. You're just going by the book, so you don't understand my life. So

you can't tell that's a black person. I could take it from someone who it's like, ah, I feel like they can talk to another addict because they've been there and they sure you know what I mean. But someone who's never you don't you never even experienced. No, I respect if you if you respect experience, I get it, and that's important. So no, so so you do you might need that because like, yeah, you yeah, it's tough. That's tough. I never that's funny. That sucked me up.

That literally sucked me up because I never realized that if it harms you, it's different because I don't think the girls I knew maybe they are harmed, and I didn't know they was harmed because they just keep going on with life. And I'm like, because you gotta remember, like we're in high school. This girl's fift c t R.

Agent that ain't giving us no play. That's talking to the dudes with the carrs, that McDonald's value the car they valued the card to do with the money, and I'm like, I always thought it was weird because I'm like, if I was twenty four, I had a low rider and some money. The last place I was looking for broads is at high school. And I don't think we value the car. I think it's the maturity level of the older guy and like him taking care of you. That's what I though he's using because but it's not

even just the static. It represents what he's doing. What would she see? I understand, no, but but it's literally you also get somewhere with less sweat and work, so's there's a reality to it, and that's what I guess I was talking. I don't even think it's necessarily about the work. It's just you're already in a position to where you don't have much, you know, Like well, for me, let me speak for me. Let's being in a group

home and going from foster care to foster care. I don't have my mom and have my dad, and I don't have nothing, you know, And then you see all these other people, you know, they got to their parents to take care of them, and you you're without, So then you start looking okay, well I need to get older man like that hasn't because I want to be you know, comfortable in my life too, because right now

I'm not comfortable. So you start looking for stuff like outside of like at school, like I don't want these guys who don't have anything you can't take. Yeah, they can't take me nowhere, they can't buy me something, and I'm over, I'm walking around with holes in my shoes or look at dragon. Did you notice that it was older man attracted to you? Just that one like it was like, oh it was many. So you saying that I dated. I'm just saying even when I would tell

guys like older guys that I was fourteen fifteen? Did you have a lie about your age? I didn't have to. Did you ever I had a man tell me to lie and say I was eighteen around his friends and stuff. I mean, did you ever lie to a man? Yeah? I have. I did about I would say about like a guy that I knew that he wouldn't have messed with me because he knew I was younger. So let me ask you a quite like y'all all pretty much?

I would have think all of y'all for the most part, sept maybe sign you probably have to, But y'are all pretty much dated older men in high school because y'all probably were all I could imagine. You know, y'all are you know, nice little older older women. Now you're not the old, but I'm saying you're not a teenager. I imagine I was all decent looking, good looking teenagers. So you were fine. You know, a guy that had a

little bit more than just us broke high school niggers. Yes, right, So what do you feel like when you was in high school? Like what made you look at the older guy that was breaking the law when you first met him? Like what what? What was it? For me? It was just staved was funny. Well, I mean, my son's father is four years older than me, so um, he had a car, and you know, I was going to dinner. We were going to I was going to dinner at

like fifteen. You know, we can leave outside of Palm deal and I can go to the beach and I can go you know, do x y Z. But at the same time, he was more approachable, like he talked to me, like I was learning things, like you know, it wasn't just like it wasn't you know, I was just really intrigued by everything he had going on. Plus he was just very um I'm always intrigued by someone that has a mind where I can learn and I can you know. And that's what it was. He was

just really like putting into me. It wasn't necessarily like, oh I'm depending on him because I didn't obvious, but you know, what I'm saying I was putting into me wasn't for me. It was honestly, I'm keeping one hundred. When I was high school ship it was swag like I was like ship my nigging, Like you could pick me up in his wip and we're about to go have some fun. You know. It was just pretty much like y'all, but just gotta take the bus, my nigga. And that's just what it was. Like, Oh he ha,

cute girl, thank you my blue. That that that that was what it was for that, you know. But you know it's funny. I could relate to that. When I started selling crack in high school. It was like you could buy the whole the whole pizza line pizza, old pizza, like cars at school, come pick me up at school, Like okay, I'm riding with him, like he's coming. Okay, so you met you met your all the dude you was in with Grad tenth that he was about okay,

so you probably didn't my first rest in peace. He was heed to me though he told me he was like nineteen. I think I was seventeen years old, and he come saying, we're gonna wait. I was eighteen to have six. Then he went to jail. But before that he told me he was really twenty four. And I was at school in the bathroom, and I was crying because I was like, you're old. Why would you lie to me? Like you took my choice away? Oh so you gave some busy too. I was in love already

by the time the truth was coming out. But you thought you wouldn't give no play at seventeen, and I didn't even think about it. My mom was very sheltering. So so you was rebelling, you had you? Yeah, it was he could only come see me at school while I was that track practice and stuff, and then I was there how to go home? That makes sense? And yours is fourteen and thirty five. That nigga is crazy? Yeah, I mean I think Nick crazy, but that nature he had a low rider. He was in a low rider.

She got an a minute so he would take you places, the one that made you lie about your eighteen saying I was eighteen around his friends. He was a crip. I was when I was tell me no more. I ran away from the group home and I stayed with him for a year and after that, I just felt

like I told him. I was like, I'm just tired, like I want to go to school, like I missed that being a kid, because I was like doing a yeah, I started coming out and I was just doing a no ship and I was like, um, I just a kid, and your baby is young. That's why I'm saying I don't know how somebody could talk to her. And then and to keep him, to keep me close to him. He didn't want me to go anywhere else. He was like, well, my ex wife, she has a foster home. I could

set it up to where you can go there. I don't want to hear. You wouldn't did it? Yeah, you wouldn't did it? And she wut dial me and everything, And at some point she end up finding out that we did. Because she didn't know that. She thought that he just made me through another friend, and it was he wanted to help me out and when she found out, I cried, She cried. She she helped me and we just cried together. She was like, I'm not mad at you like she was, like she said she were taking

it with like she said, you're a child. She said, he's in the wrong. And she loved me so much after that and she's still to this day, like you know, she's just and then her you know, she had kids and stuff and they let it go and they all told me, like I love you, and it was just so it was, oh he had kids with her. Yeah, we all stayed together. So I was, yeah, his ex wife,

I went. It was a lot. It's a lot. But the dope thing is though, is that like you're not like fuck up, like you didn't go you know, be back. But that a lot of girls they go into prostitution, like they do certain things because they've already been mentally. Because I didn't want to become a statistic I was always like in my mind, like even though I was doing like little things here and there, in my mind, I was like, that's not what I want to be. Like, I always wanted to find a way out of that.

I didn't want to just because I look back now and all the girls I was around, I'm like they sucked up, know I got a gang of kids or just just going through it and looked rough and I was just like something to me was like, I don't want to I gotta figure this out. It's something always I want more. Let me ask your honest, honest question. And this might be a weird question, but it's I just because I don't want to notice nigga. And I probably noticed nigga that's the word. But yeah, that's that's

the true. Do you think he loved you? Was he in love with you? We talked? I don't. I don't like it at all. I think it was it was the benefit of for sexual reasons. I think it was. I don't get why wouldn't see a forty as a sexual purpose at that At that age, you're not really being combative. You're just kind of just going with the

flow and you're kind of listening. You're doing whatever they're saying because you want something from him like that and this, And this is why I think it's it's something he didn't do me, Like, sure, he didn't mean get on you. I'm not saying that I'm saying, it's just now that I'm growing, I look back on it. I was like, you were in a relate, Yeah, and it was for sexual purposes only. But it's weird to me, is why the funk would he be fucking a fourteen right? What

the fund do you know about sucking? And I'm not saying, you know, a teenager couldn't be good at sex, but god damn man, like if you slept with grown women, it is amazing. No, there's he's sick, That's what I'm thinking. Like, but it has to be a rapist. I'm gonna tell you why it's a rapist. He's a predator. That's why. That's why I look back at it now. I thought it was cool he was waiting for But I'm gonna tell you what make it crazy. It has to be a turn on because of how old you are. That's

the thing. And see, I don't think it's one thing because I've seen me and date younger women. Rights, I got a little young hottie, you know, I get that, But someplace it has to be like this is part of like a rapist who somebody that like my homies, you're doing a different one HOMEI got the death penalty right now, right, Um, Big two big tool was a is a handsome, big motherfucker like he not, no, he got it's just something else that something else is turning

him on, you know what I'm saying. So I think at some place it is. But I do think something's wrong with me and that I prefer younger women. But I do think I really genuinely think they try to live vicariously. On one, they try to think that that keeps them young. One. I guess you get and but that's my point to it, Like, who the funk cares if it's fresh? But they do. That's to me, I'm not saying. I think it's the point that she made

before that I think it's no conflict. And you you want to just train someone and do what you do and live like an outlaw. Then you have people they're gonna molest their niece, their nephew, they're gonna lest everybody. They have people who are into young people, but they're not gonna to touch their own kids. Like it's just it's awful. What about self telling me? So the guy when he was in high school, the older guy, So, when I was in high school, I diated a guy.

It was almost similar to my sister's situation. I actually got kicked out of my foster home because the wife called my foster parents. Um, I loved him, like, you know, he had a cutlast and he was actually a drug dealer, and I sip my yeah, I put a nurse in my and I actually used to like sit in the car while he was doing his job selling. I had no idea. I was so naive, but I did lie about my age. I was sixteen and I said I was eighteen, but like three months later I told the truth.

He didn't care. It was we were already you know, all that stuff. But yeah, I got kicked out because of him. I never even knew he was married. Like she called my foster parents. Why did she find your foster parents? I guess because I called him. I was calling his phone. He wasn't answering, and then I got kicked out. So how old was he? He was like yeah, but he had a cool little color. Yeah, I just remember, yeah, actually, and he provided Like my mom always said, you got wooed. Yeah,

I got. And that's why I guess. That was my initial point before Sylvia pretty much broke my whole ship down. I realized she's a victim, ruined us. You can't hold you now, you funked it up. Let this nigga, love you. I feel bad for you and n trying to love her. I just wanted to shake his hand, like, man, keep on trying you get I don't even know you. I thought you were just as they got to climb that motherfucker for a year. I'm getting softer though over there,

like a little older. I was like, yes, it's softening up a little bit. Yeah, that's tough. That's uncomfortable. Um like from not trusting to trying to you know, my dude. He'd be like, dude, you hey, I'll be like, okay, baby, I'm sorry. So I'm trying to be more like because I'm usually like what what do you mean? Like, like, what do you mean? What do you mean anything? I'm just being combative. Yeah, but that's just your birth ride

as one. Like Red. We just talking about that the other podcast where she just decided she wouldn't make place to place tomorrow. Don't y'all don't know how to exist without conflict and not in a bad conflict, Like I know it sounds like such a horrible term, but simple things right that you just you just have to you have to make everything like exactly. A great relationship is like a fairs wheel that women try to turn into

a roller. We need to do something that happen. What you're talking about, it's the it's the tone, is the body language is everything, because that's what showed me. So it's the tone. It's how you it's not what you're saying, it's how you're saying. And I used to be like, but I think genuinely none of that matters. It all matters, but it doesn't matter. Women's just birth, fright, They just and I know it sounds like i'll be talking ship, but I'm seriously, I've study women like I pay attention

to them. They literally have to have a sense of conflict right where it's like I don't like my hair, I don't like my nails, but I don't like my skin. I don't like this, I don't like That's just what women do. Well, that's not our fault. Then, no, I agree, it's not your funk. It's you're born into this ship and then you listen. Then you come into this world and they make it worse because they got all kind of silly. What's funny is I think your worst mistake

is listening to each other. Y'all give each other the worst advice ever where you know what that's true. Un y'all give each other horrible advice. Something don't telling a little true? Like yeah, you naturally on the woman's side, like you become not everybody I know it ain't all y'all we want to do it in front of everybody else, but like you're you're wrong for that because we see it on the internet or day sha right now, bad women advice. I'm not gonna do it in front of

everybody else but her. I'm gonna tell you. I'm like, yeah, not like everybody else, Like, no, I'm not. I'm not obviously, that's that's the cript code of conduct. You stand up for your partner, whether you wrong. Right that other ship you're talk about notta corda. I don't know what's wrong something, you know what conduct? I'm not. First off, when I turned to thirty five, that was firing. Yeah, that's crazy to somebody at thirty. I'm thirty five years on talking

to somebody. Remember God, I would die orrow Bridge at me. I know if I had to take care of forteo year old kid, I would jump off a bridge. Are you gonna data? But I'm not going to do that because you know what that's did everybody dope. I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna breathe. I don't know what. I'm not even sure that's sick as much as what is wrong. I don't know why what you want with somebody's but that's what You're right. It is sick because

I can't you know what makes it sick. I can't rationalize it, and I'm good at rationalize to the point where you really think it's a problem, has a problem. I feel like that is illegal to have you go to jail is a motherfucker and you never and you never told on them though, but imagine how many family members that people have to know that they're messing with these young kids and they don't know they're not telling anybody.

They can't look like if they come ask me, now, like you ever think like you think that make is still on that same ship? Now? Yes, yeah, I'm sure he is. Yes, until something how you feel about people? Feel like y'all wrong for not telling on these niggas. Well in that time, like even today though, because they didn't say, y'all the problem not telling you know, it did not matter if he might still he's still going

it already. Think I'm a gangstaff this age, like snitching, Like that's not even in my mind whether he's wrong or right, Like I'm not even thinking of that wouldn't be snitching. But she was just ending the relationship at that time, Like you still you didn't see anything wrong with dating him at that time. You just ended the relationship. I think I am grown in my mind, like I'm grown. It's yourself. Hi, I'm the only one I go to school. Everyone like, oh, you're the little t a. I'm like, no,

I'm going to school here. I'm wearing hills. You know. It was always like one or two girls like that. It was actually Dad, I actually David the girl I actually dated. I actually dated that girl in high school. Really yeah, but she's trying to give me some puss. And it was the scares day of my life because she was like so far ahead of me. She end up going to jail for like a murder years Like she was dating some other nigga that murdered something. And

he didn't get away with it. They was crazy. It was a big story. It was at the Sign of Monica Pier. It was a German tourist. I don't know if you remember, because y'all kind of close enough, but it was on the news and he had this camera and they always showed him the slow motion. They were trying to rob this man with a camera, like he was a tourist and they was trying to rob him, and I guess he didn't speak English, and the nigger

tripped out, gunning down and she was a driver. So she goes to jail for fifteen years for this ship. She stopped talking to me and was talking to this nigger like, and it's funny because we always come in and crying, but like, who's trying to robber tourists? I'm selling water over here, real gallons. But yeah, I was dating that girl in high school and she was way ahead of me. She was like, I was already selling drugs. I was already getting shot at, carrying guns, driving. But

I wasn't like sexually there. I wouldn't even have a sex. So she was super duper. What's funny is I didn't talk nowhere as much as I talked today, and I don't like talking now, so you know what, but I've noticed that that's a that's a thing consensus. I'm being honest. I just once you start talking, yeah I can't. I gotta tell you everything. I gotta know enjoy talking until I enjoy talking. I know because people tell me that people really think I enjoyed talking. I actually that's my

problem as a productive sale. I feel irresponsible by not telling you something you're asking me, or what I think, like, I feel irresponsible, and then everything that I've read about it or went or experience or thought about it starts to come out like I feel like it has to. I hate doing podcasts. I did this podcast because Charlotte magn was on me, like, yo, you should do a podcast. No, I hate it. I mean, I'm grateful now, but I

still don't like it's not my thing. I like it becomes a job because you have to really enjoy talking, like I hate to enjoy talking till there. It feels like man, because you'll start having conversations like we're having this conversation right, nobody's providing insight, Nobody like how you just explained to me? Like yeah, gee, while I went through this, and this is how it makes me feel. Now, It's like, oh that makes sense. Most people are not

trying to make sense. They're just talking more just talking. Let me just say something crazy that's stupid as fun. Yeah, Like if I said, it's a lot of like Kevin Samuels out here reaching because it's no real like Kevin Samuels take takes a bad rap. Because Kevin Samuels became he was really protecting the average black man in America. Like it sounds like he was an anti woman, but he wasn't. He was saying. His whole thesis was like, how is this guy who makes thirty tho dollars a

year good enough? That's a fairy. Somebody should be standing up for that person. This is fucking American niggas with slaves two hundred years ago, slaves. Then they've been hanging. They've been hanging nig and so off. Nigga didn't figured out his life and got him a joy to pay. How were you saying that's undesigned? Most people don't have most people are without. It's only a small percentage that didn't have it. Again, so again, so again, Kevin Sammy,

that's really what he was. So he would just tell people. They'd be like, why, I think I deserved a lot of truth and what he was saying and I'm not saying the way. You know, we can all argue his methods. He was going too hard on women. He was doing this, but I think but it became a business at this

point too, so he knew that. So he capitalized off of it when once he went viold at one time, you know, it turned into a business to where it was entertainment and he was you know, he started being real like funny and you know, crack jokes, even having bagging sessions. His character starts to come up, yeah, and some women has some cold jokes for him. He told that lay every say, she looked like DJ quick, Yes, and she hit him And then you tell me that,

So let me ask yourself. So we needed that, like this is what it is. I'm stopped being behind a bush. This is so should it be against the law? Read for somebody four years old to talk to somebody like so should it be against the law for somebody forty years old to talk to somebody eighteen years old? Yeah? If you're eighteen and the man is let's say, fifty, should it be against the law, Like when does it?

I don't think eighteen is capable like those the right those are just you know what I'm saying, like numbers that was putty here, But men, silly. I don't think that an eighteen year old is ready to talk to a forty year old. So I did. I talked to a crip and the cutlass. I was nine. I was nineteen, and he wasn't my boyfriend. He was popping blood. He was man. He was like the o G. He came through. I went, I was visiting my cousin, and um, he was like the hottest thing. But he kind of just

swooped me up. It was just kind of like okay, so yeah, I would be with him in his car, was all swooped up and everything. But I knew, like, hey, this is not my man. You know. He kept on saying that you're gonna be my girl. No I'm not, but we're having fun. I knew enough to know, like, no, yeah, you know, but he was in his light though it's cool to shine in his life. Actually I didn't even have sex with him, but I still let him do

things to me. So because I I just didn't. I didn't have sex with him, but I did have a boyfriend someone I was dealing with that was thirty and I was nineteen. So yeah, I like older. I do like older. Man. I was shoving it up with it and I was like, as soon as you start talking to my swater, god, I'll be Okay. I was nineteen. But so should it be against the law for man, like, is the statutory law? Is the statutory law read like outdated?

Should it be changed more and start being more of I think it should be more, um fuck like, because some girls are just more matured than others. Like, It's just I think it just really just depends on the situation. Like I was grown. I was grown at eighteen, but I looked back and I'm like, damn I was. I wasn't really yeah, like I wasn't ready for all that, you know what I'm saying. So some women, some girls,

they are I'm like eighteen. To properate, I think it should be um twenty four the legal age four because you out on this podcast. Okay, so for a forty year old you're saying for a four, I'm saying to make the decision, period, to make the decision period have sex. So that means you could choose whoever you want. What age should that be? Ye, So Y're okay with a forty year old sleep when somebody you're to me? Depending

on the eight that's my point. So the thing about like the guy of these and laws and right is you have to have a baseline. So eighteen is the you're with high school, you're in college, you're doing grown ship, you're an adult when you're still duing high high school. No, you should have eight You're you can be on your own. You're you know what I mean. You're out your parents house, you're at college, you're staying on the dorm. You're grown, You're you can do whatever you want to do. What

about you, Britt? The legal age and sin is still cool? Here a team? Or shouldn't be a longer? Damn? I would say no, maybe twenty one because I just feel like, listen, the reason why, Okay, I had sex and I didn't even want to have really have sex. That's the co part about it. I had sex because my friends was having sex. I lost my virginity at seventeen, and that's crazy because in junior high I used to act like

I wouldn't the virgin to look cool. It was like really, I was really I was six because I was heard again like yeah, I felt like I was like the last of the dying bree like everybody was sucking and I was just like damn, like wow, and I had put my hown for like what am I holding up for putting pressure? No, because he was sucking everybody else. That's why you get hold out. He was really like one ever like with me, like the girls came up

to me or nothing. But I used to hear about like that they go to kickbacks of like that he was working on these girls, but he never sucked me. But he all everybody knew that was my boyfriend, so that was the cold part about it. But all these bitches would be sucking on him. So finally, it's crazy I end up having sex with him after we broke up. Dumb ship ever, That's why I see, because I shouldn't even be because I didn't even care for that ship

I was have. I was cool with just kicking in, and then when I had I was like, this is what the funk this was? And I didn't have sex after that for until too, like to two years later like later sex you just like you still wasn't tripping. I just was. I just it wasn't. I wasn't wasn't like something. I was like, damn, I need to get that again. And like I said, we were broken up. It was us. I did it just to get out the way and I was comfortable with him. That's what

the fun it was. Bottom line. You have to see what the rave, what it was about. And when I after I got it. Sorry you still my blue, I love you to death, but you know that just wasn't sure. The legal is in California, it's eighteen. Now are you still good with that legal age of consent? Or should it be older or younger? I just think it depends. Can't it can't. It can't depend. Like I'm asking you, you have to choose an age. No, No, what would

be the age? Yeah, I would definitely say, um, mid twenties. That's not bad Sylvia legal age eighteen has been Just let you know how what you learn when you get older, like oh, Ship, we don't know Ship, why that's why you would think that you can remember when you was like I was still the idiot. I mean, no, you gotta put it just turn it up and turn it up. There you go there you alright, Si, Si? You tell me Joe you got a daughter, so alread you know,

I can imagine that she chiefing to say. I mean, at this point, it's it's been it's been this this whole time, So I'm kind of just like accepted for what it is. So are y'all good? But but but but are you saying, like if my daughter eighteen and the nigga walk in and she would nigga like forty, that's different. You're not noting that. You're not You're not supposed to. But eighteen is cool because it's been like that. It ain't about to change. So are y'all okay with

all legal ages? Because says per State overall, like Nevada's sixteen, they should base it on the man and is he stable? Um? Is he worked? You gotta do all this for you to get some pussy? Car? Are you gonna take care of her? That's hilarious? You know what I actually set Silk is like super get But I respect that because I genuinely feel the same way. If you fucking you

must feet to marry you. Yeah, that's how I felt, Like how much do you really want They don't want to marry you, They just want you to and give not get off man's best friend. Yeah, but do. But let's say if Silkie was built right like I'm skins, I'm sorry. So let's say Sylvia was built like a grown lady at her age at fourteen, she has been like Titty's as you knoww these these hormone cow kids grow up right? See? So so is it so at that point, let me ask your question, that's your daughter

dress like a baby? Still? Yeah? I try to Sylvia addresses like me. Sylvia dressed, she was probably dressed like more close to said like Sylvia, she shouldn't have been out there like that. Yeah, but her situation. But that's why she said. But that's why she makes a great point saying your parents would been whooping your ass, because there there are some girls that that's not most of the cases. Most of the cases are closer to somebody's not there right. Um, It's it's a tough thing, man.

It's tough only because it's like my initial point when we first started talking about this was first off there there so statutory rape can't be victimless at this point, if you're a victim. You're hurt by it, I mean, and nothing bad happened to you. Just realized like damn, I wouldn't have made that decision. Yeah, and I made a lot of bad choices doing it too, because I was also selling drugs for him. So it was that's what I'm saying. It was right, it's a I can

make her pretty much. No harm came, like, no, he didn't put his hands or have me in like those type the situations. Just it's bad. And he probably wasn't even giving you a lot. It was just your fourteen.

So that little bit was like, yeah, this is it, this is it wasn't up to the points, so I stopped it around I'm guessing about seventeen because I got so close to his like his daughters my foster mom talk on her mom and then they just start feeling weird, like because I started getting so like they're calling me sister, I'm calling her mom. How would you guys see each other when you was living. I just go over to

his house. And then one of my foster mom's cousins saw him me getting off the bus on eighty ninth and Western guy, I said, I said, I mean, it ain't about meal that I don't care if he go to jail. Fuck, not like I wouldn't tell him because I'm not even to y'all just saying. It's just damn, we just make the community just looking. I thought, I'm just telling me this dope. You just say nobody knows.

Nobody knows. But it's just it's bothering me because it's like it's so close to home, because you know what I'm saying, because you know you you're not giving too much information, but it's it's bothering me. So no, Sylvie is bothering me because that's so close to home. And I hate to see people that I might have grew up looking up to seeing value in the fourteen year

old girl at thirty something. I didn't see value in the fourteen year old girl when I was fourteen, When I was of age to think of four year old girl was cool, I didn't see it then. So but again that's why I really tried to always be open minded and thought like, people don't really understand that I'm really careful because I understand how different it could be. So but that's just crazy. I mean. And so the guy you met when you was young, silky he was

you were six teams thirty two. But y'all was together as much as somebody cheating on the wife could be together. Yeah, did heat so he never So what happened once he figured out? So you got so you got kicked out? But what happened when you figured out he had a wife? Did y'all talk after that? I was devastated. I know. I didn't talk to him until like a month later.

I moved into another foster home, and then I was thinking about him, and I was like, fuck, I'm a call him, and his wife answered and I would just hang up on her, and I was just sick for like weeks. So you thought, then you thought, that's a good part about being six team. Just because you get grown twenty six, you'd be like you mother, thirty, you're about to kill yourself. You know, are thinking about time

when you were you start thinking by time wasted. Gotta gave you Mike, I gave you my best teenage years about her pride, Well, y'all got Mike t women got Mike Tyson talking about now y'all like him in I don't know, I don't know where that comes from. I don't wipe them up. And I'm gonna tell you a real story for the part. When I was thirty two, I was messing with this girl I was twenty one and so sexually it was okay. So really her age had nothing to do with sex because it really wasn't

about that. It was really some whole other if I'm gonna keep it the being. She was kind of short and really petitza. It was like the things I could spin around. I know, I'm just gonna keep you the be since we're keeping it the being. Yeah, I'm just keeping honest. You weren't too far from midgic. She looked like a midgic to me. She was weird right, And

I'm just I'm just being honest. Like I was really on some six ship sexual pleasures which I never thought could exist, you know what I mean, Like like that, This is why I always turned down three stings and fours, because I'm like, I don't want to see how sick I don't want to see how sick of a person night because once you tried, and if you like it, and then I'm and I'm good at saying not even

because I liked it. But it was like I ain't gonna lie, so having sense with it was not really driven by her age, but I remember how much I couldn't stand her as a human being, your nerves. I hated her. Damn you hear that bitch. I hated and I've never hated women have. I hated her like whenever she would talk, I hated her talking you just a little ship, a problem you had. I wasn't with her. We were just messing around for like ninety days. But I hated her. Why because she was twenty one and

talked like she was one. I cannot stand ignorant people. I gonna say stupid because they're not a cable. I'm telling you the honest truth. She would just have the the most dumbest opinions about ship. And see, my problem is as an adult, right, I'm you gotta think, right. I read, I don't drink, I don't smoke, so I read so much. I'm always gathering information. So think about the gap at that point where she's talking at a

real one year old levels. To tell her that and break her down, no, I used to just look at her like she was fucking stupid. Didn't care that much to tell her she's just black. Well, you know, because I have your baby and I'm looking at her like, baby, I don't want to talk to you tomorrow. And what's messed up is um, I was just being honest. I'm just be honest. I'm being so I'm a bear y'all my soul, right, So what I was talking to it right because her brother was cool with me, and her

brother like the type of niggu I was. I mean, so he's like, man, talked to my sister. She really want to talk to you. So that's how I started talking to her. She he knew I was like a quality guy. But I'm like, you know, and I'm like, okay. I wasn't really thinking like, oh, she's twenty one, but I forgot what twenty one was like because I forgot what one was like when I was twenty one. This motherfucker's not me at one. I was still reading bullecks

of ship. This motherfucker is a regular twenty one year old, worst opinions in the world, And I'll just be sitting right here like why is this girl sucking? Like why would I even like touch me? I stopped because she was like, so we still just have sex. I'm like, no, we can't like no, because I don't have any intentions to do anything good with your life. Well that's right, this crazy is so that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's not even spare him because

I spared myself. I literally spared myself because I just did not like her. Let's not say she wasn't she was a pretty girl, beautiful shape, great and all lad and she wasn't crazy. She was regular twenty one. But that's when I realized it was so far from me. For your mind, every once your date for the mind, Well that's probably why you can't relate to other guys, because there's no question that it's an intellect. It's an

intellectual and it's a it's a desire to learn. Right, So like R Kelly, if you so I knew are I met our kad, I don't know. Because I met him and I was gonna work. I went to the studio to work with him. He was texting me he can't read the rite, yeah right, So it was always weird interacting with him. So even when I found out, you know, because you were here to is about to leave, But you know that wasn't crazy. Back then he just marrying women. And I don't know why the fun want girl?

I look at every fifteen right now. It was able to happen because it was so normal. But I still think he was busting older broads. But yeah, I don't, but I don't. I think it his situation. It was any broad. So you gotta think he didn't have to do nothing to get No, he had to. Manif it's r Kelly man, you came draws down for our key. And that's why I said allow that there's a sickness there because when people say, oh, this this this high celebrity raped this girl, like no, what why would he

do that? He has money, because it's not about the money, it's about power up the I can take it because I get everything I want and this is no fun no more. So therefore that it's a sickness. Now it doesn't matter. Yeah I know I can get it and girls to drop their draws right here right now. It's the another something to stimulate me. But but I think, so it's a sickness. It become just like yeah, it's not about but I think, but but so this I'm in this with this. It's like I would never know,

I told the home. I said, I would never know what a pedophile goes I've never in my life seen a four year old that's attractive, That's what I'm saying, Like, I would never know what r Kelly goes through because I've never seen a fourteen year old girl that's attractive. Have I seen a fourteen ye old girl with body? Yes, but it's gonna take a little bit more because of what's up tough for me to be attraction. And I'll see a two year but I'm like, I want to fun,

Like what That's not what I'm saying. So it becomes everything else, you know, I mean, it becomes how they do certain things. That's crazy though. I just was that I knew all the girls with dad and girls like that, and I just never quite got it, but that this was really informative because I sure didn't know. But it's pretty much what I thought except that part of And I think I think every human being on this earth,

no matter what I think, we all have thoughts. The thoughts are just thoughts, so act and when you act on it, then that's would make it like people have that thought and then they'll go you full throttle with that thought. You know, sometimes I'm like, I haven't thought some weird ship, not like on that level, but it's just anything any level. It's like, oh, I don't know what I thought as group? Yeah, like it talking about I was like that thought that I piss on the

group think. You know, sometimes you just she wanted me to. I would if anything. It's hard who No, I'm not pissing because I wouldn't leand the bed with piste. But like if I was in the shower and she wanted me to piss on her, piss on it and someone, Yeah, well that way. I don't know. Has a guy I asked you to piss on? Hold on, hold on, hold up? Has a guy ever asked a piss on you just squared on him? They ask that? Has a girl asked you to piss on her? They say, that's pet. Has

a girl asked you to piss on him? Has a guy ever asked you to piss on him? Has a guy? Yeah? Has he ever asked you to piss on him? Have you ever got a goat shower? I asked for one? What made you ask for one? I want to see what the ray was about? When you're just being just disgusting and freak. I haven't no ship involved or throw up. That's cool. How did he piss on you? Um? That was in a shower? Yeah, he was like like hell she said, let it just like I just wanted him

to where here? No? Hell no, like real warm. That's cool because I say, because she keeping it a like I fun with me? Is that you know what I mean? We relate till that sid keep me the being. Has a guy have you, as a guy, risk to piss on you know, on him? He wanted you to? Yes, I wouldn't even do that. It took a lot. It's hard on put the trash back down, just doing just doing a shower and then just so he was readily

getting pissed on time. But when I was I would have been pumped up about a girl to piss on her. I'll be drinking all the water. What's that small? He said? She got to the show. Yeah that Wait a minute, Wait a minute. No, if a girl asked me to piss on her, I be honor. Well, but it's your woman, you know now my old lady look her crazy like I'm not I'm a laughing like okay, bad, bad, No, no, bad, No, I'm not pissing on you. You might want me to hug you after you sure, yes, I think so get

water all day. I'll be ready for that. She was, like like a regular, like a regular, like a groupie girl, or like a girl that just like me. I want you to piss something. I'll be just drinking water all day. I'll be ready, rich big, just getting it all right. She said, she's gonna cry that. You guys, he's gonna look at you, crazy motherfucker. You're gonna ask him to Okay,

I know I should try that soon. See yeah, please right, make sure you don't don't do it, but you can't be mad that you don't hold it me like mabe, I've been thinking about this, something I thought about on the podcast. Would you piss on me? And then see if he said yeah, be like damn because I want to see anything. Don't say anything about the podcast. Just like you know, I've been thinking about this. It's like a fantasy of mine because that is kind of powerful

to piss on somebody. Wow, and they want you to never thought about dobody something special to it. It's a beauty. I never heard of that. What you piss the way you might go to the hospital. It is really hot. Wait, what is it? I feel like I heard like it's like I know, it's like if you get it like a sting ray or something, you pee on it. Yeah. Yeah, Okay, So shout out to force. So thank you all again

for coming through. Up I talk back, Sire Sylvia Silkie in the house, my man Joey west Side from the l A. Jihants you already know. Thank you for coming through, and me for me bred Red. We have this mother good looking out for tuning into the No Sellers Podcast. Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, and share. This episode was recorded right here on the West coast of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King for the Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Yeah.