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Conversations About R. Kellies and Aaliyahs

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Glasses is back this week unpacking the recent release of Surviving R. Kelly: The Final Chapters with receipts. Joining the conversation is the usual suspects Aja, Britt and special guest, A&R and former Crip turned Christian, Cixx. Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.

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Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no Sillers podcast with your host. Now funk that with your low glasses Malone. So look, I know you know y'all looked at the tidy. I was like, glasses is tripping. Ye. I didn't even get to look at it because he was. So you put your phone now. People be complaining when you're on your phone and you know what what I'm saying, and you'll be doing a podcast even though like this

ain't no YouTube show. We're not pay potentional with people watching, but they want you to be gaged in the conversation if they're gonna listen. So they aired the final epilogue to the R. Kelly Ship. Oh I missed it? When did that come out? It just came out last week? How do I miss it? Well? It was it was I don't know many episodes my at four or five, but this one is a two or three part okay.

So I went through it again now because sometimes I'll be thinking, like maybe as a man, sometimes I'm like, am I just you know, am I just cool with R Kelly? Or am I okay with this? Because I'm a man, we may have different preference when it comes to women and said, but am I just okay with this as a man? Why is this show rubbing me the incorrect way? So I went and made some notes at a notepad, right notes, damn said, note put them in my phone. Was like, so I was looking at

all the girls who were on the show. I think you talked about it last time, like you were talking about their ages and there, like, yeah, now we got time to talk about it last week was on some other ship. And the reason it was because the term predator is thrown around with R. Kelly. Right, look at the word predator six please get define that um. And the whole premise of the show was R. Kelly is a predator to under age women. Is it fair to

say that that's the whole Okay? So I noticed in the first two episodes they spun a lot of time talking about two people who couldn't be in the motherfucker. Oh and the girl that the little fourteen fifty gritty piston. Why not why because she's not sing but she was all in for the action. She was bull That's really the truth she has. He regrets, at least publicly. She says that she hadn't um and so I went down all the girls age roughly it's one, two, three, four

or five, six, eight, nine, ten, twelve. That pretty much the whole show was built off around twelve girls. So I was like, da, let me really look into this, so, you know, let me be fair, Let me be a just tyrant. I mean as a tyrant. I want to be just. So the main girl, right, who pretty much leaked that R Kelly gave her her pies. Her name is Faith Rogers. Faith Rogers when R Kelly Matter was nineteen, okay, so she was legal Kitty Jones, right, that was the

lady I think from Texas. She was on radio and she was thirty three when they met. M hm okay, Lizette, she was seventeen when they met. Okay, mind you, in the state of Illinois, the legal age of consent is seventeen. You know, most states in America, the United States of America, every state is different. There are over thirty states in the United States of America the legal age of sexual consent is sixteen, Nevada and Washington being some close ones

to US. Okay, so wait, if he did this with the states, he did with a seventeen year old, but he wasn't in Illinois. It just depends on the state, but I think he met her in Illinois, right. Jazz Jasmine was nineteen, Area was seventeen when they met. Gironda was sixteen, but she was at his court case during school hours and she was lying said she was nineteen. Mm hmm. Lisa was eighteen, Landa was twenty four, Andrea

was twenty. That's his wife. The dancer Assanti when they met was thirty five, Holly was twenty and Dimmed a little stud looking young lady. She was seventeen. Okay, so what are you trying to say? So you're trying to say that they were It's just weird that the whole premise and ambiance of this show was r Kelly is

what was his charges? Nothing to do with So the main charge that has something to do with under a sex is a child pornography law, and that's if a girl is sixteen or under the age of sixteen, I think it is, and you recorder having sex, it's called child pornography. But that's not the think of his you know. The charges that got in locked up was racketeering, trafficking, trafficking, trafficking. How did they hide that trafficking. I don't know because

it's not a pimp. R Kelly was a different than You couldn't even look at his bitches. They wouldn't look up. But no money you could give them. Wow, That's what I'm saying. So how did they come up with these charges? Finish you couldn't give money. So and then he got charged with the Man Act. We talked about this. The

Man Act is what they charged Jack Johnson with. It was a it was a racist law created by the FED the government to stop black men from dating white women, particularly Jack Johnson, because he was busting all the white holes and taking across their lines, doing unscrupulous things to him, getting the head and even pussy and ship. And he was like, all that is im moral acts cross the state line. They charged because with that, Yeah, all right, but I'm just saying, but the whole I'll be honest

with the show. The whole looming thing is he just like underage bitches. So they're trying to say that he what's the racketeering? What is that? This is? This is different? So so what I genuinely believe happened the federal government felt pressure when them sisters came together and made that show in lifetime, and it rallied up all the women who didn't listen to what was going on a glasses.

I just heard the show, didn't listen, So when I finally listened, you know what I mean, I stopped acknowledging what it sounded like and exactly what I was listening to, And I realized pretty much every girl was a legal age consent when he met them, except the two girls at the beginning too episodes, and neither one is on the damn show. One he married and he didn't, did he.

They were trying to say that he was holding or from what I saw in the movie that that he was holding the women there, But that's not even like hostage because that the families were saying that the girls weren't saying that. The girls pretty much when they got tired, they just packed up their bags and went home. Assanti specifically said she just got tired of waiting how this Nike was treating and then she just got her pack the rags and left went on. She said that in

the documentary the TV SITIS, it was weird. I was like, okay, so what's the predator defined? Predator for me secen six. Alright, so hold on, hold on, no seilings, glasses low in the house, glasses malone red, what's happening? Bread? Wass up? Six? What's the deal? Or to do what I think it six is? It is my partner. I may be me at the beginning when I first started making music your west side thing on the east side, Nik, but we have figured out somehow how to come together and make

a process prosperous Los Angeles relationship. As a homie. He's a pretty diligent father, really smart hustler. So run that six. Give me the definition of predator or as three of them? So the first one is an organism that primarily obtains food by killing and consuming other organisms, like a lion, an animal that praised on other animals, or one who injures or exploits others for personal gain or profit. So I think the conversation is exploitation. R Kety is exploiting

these women for but what's his? What's was a personal gain? Or but what's the profit? Though maybe it's the China the game personal game. Maybe exploiting them for China. I don't quite know because it's R Kelly, But they were trying to make it seem like he was pimping. Then, right, that's why it's just weird because it's not true. R Kelly. You couldn't even look at the girls. But I thought, pimp, you can't look at the girls. No, no, no, R Kelly wasn't selling these girls. You. I don't know if

it was. Yeah, I don't think he was selling that. Kelly is not selling. I don't think he was selling. I don't think of all his bitches to himself. That's why he had them all up in the house in different rooms. None of these can below to y'all. It's not like we could have had him on the weekend and then they went back. No, your minds, nobody was locked up just there after, you know, like they could have just left. But but again, that's the the concept of they did a really good job of mega. Sure

they did not say that, but you felt that. M M. Yeah. So I was thinking about it and I was like, why would a nigga like R Kelly want young girls? Right? And I came up with two things. He's either insecure about his sexual package. Like niggas when I was growing up,

they wanted young girls. They used to say ship like, oh, she's young and tight or something, and I'm like, so I would always think if you would look at young girls and he was older, you might have like a little little john Nay want to they just not like that's nothing having to do with nasty or none of that. That don't make sense. What do you mean? No, that's not nasty. They're disgusting. Why are they disgusting? Because those

are they're young girls? Like why are you looking at Why is a grown man thinking about looking at a young girl? Why would you look at you? I'm grown? What does that mean I'm talking about? I think it's what do you think changes from your vagina at eighteen and now? The miles on? It? Just a thought, man, because I love when y'all like, you know the emotional replies. So he's disgusting, Well technically not really, but why is

why do you want someone that is much younger? We're talking about men that are like forty five, that like a sixty that like old women eighteen year olds, nineteen year olds? What the predator? No? No, what's the words you just said? The separation between her at eighteen and her at the miles on it? Do you feel the same way about cars. Literally, about to say that, like when you buy a car, Let's say, let's say you old man, he gotta he didn't get you the car

that you've got. What's about the two thou he got you the night out of Trump? M hm, okay, seven thousand? About who want that? Where are we going? Yeah? But no, if this person is specifically going for that, only cars you want the new cars? Why something? You want to think something? Maybe something happens. I don't want the car all these other dudes and droves. You're like, you're dying what he has the means to go buy the new car? Why would I want the Why would I want the

teen year old? Seeing there's young girls that be getting their thing. You don't know, but I'm just saying it doesn't you know they might got miles too. There's no young you have miles? What to have miles? I mean, I mean, I didn't have a baby and ship, But damn, what the fuck You're just gonna put me out there like that. I'm not hearing you out there. I think that's some of that is like learned behavior. I don't think so that's that's the point I'm saying I'm trying

to get you all to actually see logic. It's gonna be hard because naturally y'all gonna gets logic and it's just about how you feel, and you're not being honest. What's wrong with the it's old? H it's old? I mean what, I don't know. So if you fifty and your old lady was was she's the nineteen eighty model, and then you can get to two models, what type of besides sex? Excuse me, there's nothing somewhere? What's the point now? See that's and that's where I wanted to

get to because Glasses needs something besides sex, not our Kelly. Well, then you say you can't like reading ship like that or something like that. That's that's probably why he wants a younger or or he because somebody years open and it isn't even I'm saying he don't have too much. They weren't young, though. I think that he just wants somebody to idolize him and do the ship that he

wants them to do. Because what the other girl was thirty three and you and it was come on, man, it was I wasn't about to be fucking drinking pet and I am never. I don't give a funk who you are. That ain't happening, don't want to. I saw on the last what it was like to celebrate the one year anniversary, shipped on the plate and was like dinner served. Shut the fun up? Are you serious? Who is it degrading too? Why would you want someone to

eat your ship? And why would you tell someone to eat your Why is she why is she eating her ship? Why they never know that? That don't make no sense. That is sick. Some sums off with her. Some him Kevin Gate said, if the woman is fine enough, he wants her to piss in his mouth. He's at my pissing during like squirting or something, or he just said, piss like I go to shower. He said, you know, Kevis just be saying sometimes I believe that is ridiculous. Man,

I'm just asking. Okay, So back to our Kenny before I get into what weird is going through his on to make him? How you kiss the person that ship? I don't even want to know that even if they ate my ship, that's just crazy. I don't even like kissing people after they sucking my dig and just what's happened? But I find I find a way to do it. It's a little bit different. So for sure, I'm not shipping places. It's different. Hand Kelly, he deal with this cover.

I wouldn't, That's what I'm saying. Eighteen would you at eight? R Kelly ship? I wouldn't know, And my daughter wouldn't eat nobody's ship crimb eighteen Asian primate tree rid Okay, who was the Michael Jackson No, I'm not eating Michael Jackson ship. Jesus, did you want to go to heaven? That? I just try to salvation? Yeah, I'm gonna seat ship for salvation. But Jesus, Kelly, I'm Michael Jackson. They're not Jesus.

I'm just asking where so my points the exactly they worship that's crazy it So it's R Kelly sick for asking said if you and this is really what they said, that rhetoric rus if you want to show your loyal to me, dinner reserved? That's like, um, what do you call it? Um? Club like initiations to ship people do crazy time fraternity soarty things like that, you know. So that so what I was thinking was I mean what she she wasn't didn't have a gun, puts her head.

There was any no intimidation though, But but I don't want to get to that. What I want to focus on is the mind state. So I thought about he's insecure by the sexual package because you think maybe something happened to him. Yeah, but he's not. He's not a pedophile. I know the word pedophiles going around a lot, but pedophile means you're in some kind of sexual situation with a pre pubescent and present. That's really but that's how they're trying to that's how they're made. They're making it.

Eliah was under age, they said, and the other girl and speaking up R Kelly's Elvis daughter died, the wife who was thirteen that he married and brought back overseason that we just act like that didn't happen. He married m Marie. No, he's not his daughter, her mother under age? Yeah, right, she was Elvis Elvis. I'm just just throwing it out there because Okay, he married, but that's this. So moving on right back to R Kelly marry even older Aliyah

then Mr President was Priscilla when he married. Um, So I think either he has to have us an insecure sexual package, so he wants something tight, so he could feel like he is to his intellect is super questionable, so he needs somebody he could feel smarter than. So you know, I think it's power. I don't. I don't think it has power. I think it's who. I think it's yet power. Whoever is going to do whatever whatever you want to feel superior. You know, he's not the low.

He can't just walk in the room and just like me, he's saying. He's like me, prove it, like you know what I mean, Like he wants you to be dead and he's the king. Like your favorite word of this new decade is loyalty. That's some kingship to do, Like kings were pieces of ship at concubines and ship they like people like kings and queen. Well, what about the concubines because every story of kings that I remember had concubines. Definitely right, Okay, So, or he's insecure about getting old.

So a lot of the older homies I know used to bust on bitches eighteen nig come back to our school. They were fearful of getting older. So they're they're claiming the fan was like, oh yeah, you see these young but still like I still got it. And that's because the women the age or the girl's the age or older, it ain't working with them. Or this got Miles, this miledge, I get it, Like I think my packages is okay enough to where I'm not insecure about that. So I

don't think it matters what the miledge is. I'm good with cars. I will fix that shup, not the classic out of it you could have, Miles. When I got you, we're gonna who We're gonna go through that thing, break that thing down, fresh boats, fresh nuts, repod of coat that you know, Sam, blast that thing, if that thing fresh, put that thing together, gratched that thing back up. We're gonna draw that thing like if fresh pull around the

block again. But he got that classic, so I can tax some ship that was from sixty four when I had that thing. Everybody pull out on the shawl with her. Everybody's gonna like, look at that thing right there, right so, but that's Glasses. Glasses is a enthusiast of this type of ship. I'm not worried about getting older. You wrote fear of getting older, m So I'm not looking to live ucariously through no little young goofy girl. Right, I'm okay,

we're getting older. But I thought about that, and those are the three things that I thought about. It could be the behavior to they could have seen their fathers, their grandfathers, the uncle. You know people. I mean, women are attractive. Let's be honest. Women is attractive. Sixty, I guess it's some sixty. I met a c CEO girl in Germany. Guy was attracted. She was trying to get me some play. And I couldn't get past that she was under eighteen. It didn't matter what the law was.

It was like what but she barely don enough to drive rode this dick. I couldn't do it. You couldn't legally ride this dick in California. That is the different motors, right, just got your permit. That's how I see a girl that's inexperience. This is right, here's a different ride. But you just playing s haranging around this motherfucker about to fall off and hurt yourself. Baby, you got to go through some of them. Look let them look. Yeah, gonna put you some mileage on that thing. I need that

thing broke in. You need that broken something is like the cars zero. I'm not mad. I don't think like this. Car I had car Z Romans, a few of them. I like them. Motherfucker's with the way. We got to at least get the dirty and drow this time you know what to do with it. Last got you and now it's broken. It's my fun ready for donuts. I agreed to for for for man. Yeah, but that's what I wanted. And then that's the point I was getting to because I was getting to that point, what the

fund is wrong with the alias of the world? In both for y'all world Leah, y'all was young dating some old nigga. I didn't What did you think I was young, over eighteen dating older guys? Yeah, and I didn't. Oh oh wait, my son's father is but four years four years, four years, that's not old. Four years is not old. And I was with him from what to Why you didn't get a Nike in that show? Age? Because I liked him he I met him, and I liked him. But I did date guys my age before him. My

boyfriend was my age. I was crazy about him like that was you know, but that I met Like what's the mentality between under like a young girl? Like when y'all was so like for me, I like dating guys that were older because they had cars and they had money and they had we could go places, you know, we can go to eat, we can leave out of the city. So you know, like you know, it wasn't us. It was just like but I wasn't like, oh, I'm not going to talk to guys my age, Like I said,

I did talk to guys my age. The guys that I did talk to my age, though, I did find that they were they did they were like more mature. They weren't like their age. I don't know why. I mean, that's just what I was attracted to. And I think like for I think like for me like growing up, I know, like it was more I'm not gonna say it was acceptable, but we kind of like brushed it

under the rug. Like guys would like like grab you, like you know what I'm saying, Like you'll be out, like say you go to a club or say you're like a like at a function or whatever. You at your home girl's house and ate uncle or whoever like might touch you or be like hey girl, come in here. You know what I'm saying. Like I was a little more passive, like okay, no, like you know, but I wasn't like, why the fund you're touching me? Whoop? Whoop?

Do what? I was just like more passive. And I know now, like what i've seen with this generation, the girls aren't. They're not like that. It's like you're touching me like like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, they're not. Don't touch me. You know, I don't like my picture, don't give my MS. I want you to like what is wrong with the Aliyah and you that makes you look at the older man and be like this is And me only dated one older guy when I was younger. Okay,

what was you thinking? Was you thinking? I mean I told you already, you asked me this before and they persisted. Yeah, the older guys are more very down. He didn't make you think of your dad and ship with that old right he was literally like like like she said, like three or four years older or something like that. When that old? When I got over eighteen, I dated guy. Yeah, when I seen years like t why what do you mean? Why oh what you mean old? Why would you be

looking at it? But I wouldn't. I probably wouldn't have talked. I don't know. I didn't get anyone. I was like when I was eighteen, I was nineteen and he was I think he was like thirty. Yeah, what did you see in him? Oh? Yeah you did? I you know what?

Like I um, I liked him. But the issue I didn't like him that I didn't stay with him and he was just it was just like he was so persistent and just kind of swept me off my like feed like, oh, you know, he lived in the Marina and it's like, oh, you're gonna go to my house Marina and he um, you know, at that time, he wanted to buy me a g wagon like and I didn't take it, but this is where, you know, and

so I chose to be with someone else. And he's like, you're gonna be You're gonna be broke for the rest of your life because because he, you know, had money or whatever. But it was just more of like he he weighed me down. But at the same time, it was like, Okay, I can go hang out a way him. I'm getting into the club. I'm not twenty one. I'm walking in the back door with him, and now I'm like, okay, this is cool, Like you know, but I didn't I knew that it wasn't gonna be like long term, like

I couldn't. I could have married him, we could have been together, but that just wasn't me like and I knew I wasn't happy like being with him. I just it was just something to do and I didn't want to hurt his feelings. But then when I broke it off, he was tripping, tripping trip trip yeah, m yes, And I didn't um because I'm trying to think what would go through a girl's mind and I was high. I

didn't smoke, and he had bomb weed. I didn't smoke, and I would smoke and I would, honestly somewhere else I was. I don't know. That was the whole thing where it's like, why am I doing that? I was over eighteen, I was nineteen. I had a kid, so maybe I was like, no, I wasn't nineteen, I was, I was. I wasn't nineteen. I was like twenty because Roland was no. Maybe I was twenty one and I was drinking wine at the time and I would get buzz off wine. It was like I was just having

a good time. Well for me now, um, I didn't really start dating the older guys until I got a little bit older, like in my my twenties, Like when I was in high school, I did have an older boyfriend. He was like, like I said, like four or five years older than me. But other than that, it just was more mature, Like I didn't have anything in common with the guys that I went to school with. It wasn't It wasn't like I don't know, it just happened that way. We met and just we hit it off.

Just what it was. But I had a I had a boyfriend that was high school. Maybe he hadn't he was just stupid asked me letters and my little boyfriend it was it was school with me. He was. I liked him, he was well, he wrote me too many. I feel bad because I found out later when he had was autistic. No he was. That's not funny, you said, because not because she no what is it called when Nate when you it wasn't even like that, Okay, So

he had dyslexia. He had dyslexia whatever, and he was and I felt, no, I'm telling I'll be a real ship. Like I felt really bad later when I found out because I was so you know why, because you were fucking young and immature. I wasn't young immature. I didn't know what the funk that was. Just felt like this take time to really go to school. In class, he was outside passing letters when he should have been working

on the alphabet. I don't know, I'm saying trying, But what I'm saying was I didn't know until later sending me the candy man, right, you so sweet, but no real ship. But I think, honestly, it just comes with he just wanted something different. And like she said, I mean, I think I was naive. I was naive. I was she will be honest with you when you don't take advantage.

I'm not meaning like I just I'm just cause somebody asked me that I think R Kelly was taking advantage of these girls, and I was like, no, he could have possibly, And I was like, what is he taking advance? R fucking Kelly, What do you mean taking? If you go to R Kelly, I've been listening to R. Kelly since I wasn't fucking junior high, maybe in middle school for sure. If you know about R. Kelly, he talked about sucking. So if you're a fan of R. Kelly,

you're a fan of sucking. But I didn't know, you know, it's I wasn't. Yeah I was, I wasn't. I didn't know what sex. I knew that, but I wasn't having sex like that. We would, you know, but you knew what the fucking songs were about, right, And so if you're a fan of R. Kelly, you're a fan of fucking, baby making, baby making, whatever, what's the difference. I'm just I don't think you're if you you don't have to. I wasn't even sing like that. I wasn't it not whatever.

It's a lot of times you could be a fan of you could. You could be a fan of a basketball player. I don't mean you could who. I didn't say I didn't know how to have sex. I said I wasn't having sex. Missing the point what I'm saying, you don't have to be a pro at something, or even great or even experienced to be a fan of something. If you're a fan of R. Kelly, you're a fan

of fucking because all this music is about sucking. He makes a thousand different ways to talk about he said, put a key in the ignitionition, Like, how many more times you gotta make songs about fun as Now that I'm older, I can say, Okay, damn, yeah, he was really talking about just fucking. But back then I'm really not. You know, but I'm not. I just wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't really you know what I'm saying. I wasn't

pay attention. I was just in and I was attention because because look, when Honey Love came out, I was at least able twelve or something. Wasn't uster society, right, Wasn't that when he was with um oh yeah, what's your name? And Ja? When he was sucking, it was they were that was they was suing. You know what, sometimes people be like glasses man, you just go so hard that somebody tell me I'll go to our for you, and I'm like, I go too hard on you. I'm like,

that's just a lie. What I don't accept is silly ship. Some of these things be obvious. It was an obvious thing. Mar Kelly always talked about sucking. But as I got older, yes, but when I did different thinking about you knew he was talking about fucking, but you just wasn't sucking. And then the more you start sucking, the songs even start making more sense. And I'm like, I like, because all your experiences, you'd be like, oh, this is what this

nigger was talking about. The key and that ignition. So if you're a fan of R. Kelly, you're a fan of fucking. I'm not saying you when you first heard of Kelly fucking, I'm saying us a nasty motherfucker. If you're listening like an arcady, you have to be somewhat nasty as a human being. To like Mark Kelly, you have to be. He's just a nasty ass man. He's a really nasty motherfucker. But that's not all he has, not every song. I believe it was thirteen years after started.

I don't know anybody been talking about sex. And if you where he was in the studio thinking of y'all. Had he put them dances in the video to make y'all think that's what he's talking about. He said, if you didn't give no pussy, he was gonna step man round around, hit the backs. I don't know. All I'm saying is I've just been thinking about that and I was thinking, like, Okay, if you are Leah in this situation, what do you look at R Kelly for that's eight. Well,

the guys your age. Let's say if Alia was pretty, I ain't gonna say she fast, because I don't know what she was sucking. But Elia looked apart. It was a lot of wine and then a lot of pretty you know, and advanced moves for that age, a lot, a lot of hips. She knew she had hips. I don't think R Kelly was her first resent peace for give me a live, But I just don't think R

Kelly was Elia's first. I've probably been on it. You think that if a woman knows how to wind her hips and stuff that No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it's a confusing thing to invite sex in because wind of your hips is a very sexual thing. It's not really anything else. It's kind of the purpose of it. Right, Dancing became an extension of different things. Right, people dance sexually. Aliah was a person that danced sexually. You know, me and the Lia is the same age,

So she danced sexually. I used to look at it live like damn Alias fuckable the whole time. We just sme age. So I know if I felt to some old nigga felt it So what I'm saying is, what did she look at? Okay, if she make glasses at that time, right, if she made glasses at that time, I'll be trying to fun. So I wonder did she think, like, damn, all these niggers want the same thing. This nigga is gonna write my songs too. M hmm. Like what makes you succumb to giving r Kelly pussy at twenty eight?

If you fourteen fifteen, okay, let's say you fucking how are you first? Persistent? How were you? So let's say some girls write some girls with young fourteen? Remember girl fourteen? Right sometime go back to the day, back in the day, nigga, I said, sex back in the day. Okay, so fourteen fifteen, sixteen, right, guys want the same thing whether they are fourteen or forty four? Mm hmm. Is her decision based off this nigger got a car? M Like why would it not

be a thing. Let's say if you fifteen and you want to have sex and the nigga fifteen want that sex with you want? That says with you one? They could pick you up in the car nothing, they could pick you up on his handlebars. It's gonna be how you mentally connect with that. For me, like how I mentally connecting with them? And so when I say like they wear you down, or they're persistent, they're very charming, or they're very like I don't think the economics play

a roll into this at all. I mean they are all the time. Some girls, I mean ship, they like what they like. She she might want the guy what they handle bars. I'd be poppy loving ship, or my other girl might be like, should I need more? Like I ain't get shipped over here, I ain't working with you whoop like, hey mama, ain't got ship I need? It was never about what the person had. I mean, it was about they need to have sense a woman is not about what a guy has. What do you

mean it can't be you mean? I just think y'all live when I'm saying, I'm gonna say that because I don't say, why do I think it's a lie? Don't say why do I think women care more than about a true connection versus what a man is earning and what he could provide? Don't ask why do I think you're lying when you say the first? For me, I have to definitely connect with you before any of all the other stuff is, let's let's just have a real Okay, let's have a real I have to connect with you.

But before I'm going to allow myself to connect with you, I'm gonna make sure these other box are checked off exactly. That's true. Yes, and that's all I'm saying because sometimes y'all just get into some ship and we finished just start lying. You just don't. We don't got a lot like we could keep it real at this tape, just like Nigga's look at girl. I don't know what niggas look at girls to see a big ask for it

really don't have no function and purpose. I think women are smarter than me, and I historically went on the record saying women are smart to the men. I say, y'all mistake is treating me in like they're stupid. So y'all looking at the women that have the big ass, but really not looking at the big ass, just looking at her because you want to suck. But the ass makes you want to suck though, right, So it's tricky, right, No, yes,

and though because you're somebody with no ass. But I'm talking, okay, like what you're looking at saying on social media. Well, I think women make quality decisions when they're choose because they start to care about everything outside of the person. Can this person provide for me? Can this this person give me a ride to work? Simple things? Y'all make

decisions on niggas. Don't never think ship like that until like modern and then if the nigga do think something like that, we're gonna call him a bum straight up. We're gonna be like, man, he's bragging your bis out of corners. You heard, We're gonna talk bad about you, which is kind of you. But I always think women

made more quality decisions. So Leah gave some pushy to the nigger that could write or a whole album that was a hit record, hit album that will platinum and ship they are married, right, he loved her, he had to love he married this girl. Um, but fun that we can't get that for how did you get the pussy because he could write a fucking hit album because his mental capacity is of at that time of a fifteen year old probably probably probably thought they was just

I don't know him and Leah. Leah probably was more mature. I think probably Robert Robert and everything. Look Robert called it Cus Robert, Robert, silly, Robert, you need to grow up. I can hear Leah talking to Cuds right there in my mind at least. But I think women make smarter decisions because we react off of simple things, right. Uh. It all goes into the innate idea of getting, you know, um,

impregnating somebody. Women who got wide hips look like they could have kids, even if nigga is not trying to have kids. That's the innate desire that you just refused. But somehow you decided to go through with, you know what I mean? So I think I get why women make this decision. I get why Aliyah decided to funk with R Kelly. You're trying to figure out what the funk was he thinking. That's why I think it has

to be some level of insecurity. What could this even if he not her first, Let's say he was her second, because he could have been her fifth. It's my four team and that many niggas, and she's a star. She on the road. You she ain't sucking everybody. So let's say Rob was her third nigga. Let's say Kelly was her third nigga. What could she know? She don't know ship. She ain't got no fucking money. He gotta be here. Wants to be too in in that space too, I'm

not I think most men want to be in control period. Yeah, but you're saying, you're saying you wouldn't want to fun somebody this inexperience because you want them to know what control. That don't mean I can't controller. Yeah, just because it's sixty four and Pobbly got all these miles and I read I still control it. I could control the baddest car. I could have a thousand horse power. I'm a whoop it. I'm gonna whoop that hole and this that motherfucker Oprah

Winfrey to be you know what I'm saying. So if they don't have it, so they doesn't have any horse power, you're gonna put it together. And that's what he wanted to do with put them you know why why would you go through all that exactly that car That's like taking a brand new car and then let me rebuild this car. That's stupid. I'm gonna take a two three, and some people that they do feel like, oh I can show them something or oh, you know, like I can have the way that's what they think I want

them to do that. I I did that. That happened to me. Somebody brought that out of me. I didn't know nothing about that. I was a little like, is that really? Like? Is that okay? See me ask you six. I wouldn't be bragging if I made somebody sucking my dick that never sucked my dick. Now that's just me because she ain't no ship. The first time I remember a girl gave me something, it was the first time. It was horrible. The last thing I want to do is go tell something. I taught her dick first, and

it was so bad, like teeth. It was bad, and teaching her was frustrating. Too fucking grown to be teaching you how to suck a people. You are twenty three. Let me tell me you ain't something nobody did. This thing might have been she the first one. I'm the first one. I understand it. But I think that's my point. That's rudy in a natural ship, right, being somebody's only at first m you know what I mean. It's weird to me, but I think that's the order to natural.

My intellect makes me sore past standards standard things like that ship, like, oh, it's just more first, not his minds. I could be your hundreds and his minds, now give me. That's where I'm at with it. I feel like my gang that's strong, My ship is strong enough. You could I could have been your bitch. I'm your twelve hundred nigga, and you're gonna act with I want you to act. I ain't gonna make you do nothing. You're gonna get

down because that's what I want. Or I might want you to be yourself to see where I'm at in life, you know what I'm saying. But again, that's also something that be thinking and reading and line up and not drinking and not smoking nothing to get out of his own mind. Like he just I just played games with my mind all the time. I love challenges, so it's different. I just don't know, you know, I don't know why the funk would you want to teach somebody how to

have sex? And it seems like self esteem, you know what I mean? He might have low self esteem. That's what I'm him being r Kelly, right, That's what I think. So to us, it's like that Kelly, but he like he the same weird dude that he might have been. That's what I'm thinking. Sick that crazy. If I'm Mark Kelly, I just go out on hall. Bitch. Get up out of here, bitch. See if you've got nigga, See if you find a nigg better than me. I'm trying to let him go. Get off your leaves. Bitch could have

pushed out of here. Get up out of here. Let me when I came through the all to had bitches all in my face and ship like bitch Glasses malonea R Kelly, make your choice, but get up out of here, nigga, or you can work with me, are Kelly. That's how I would be. I'm Robert Kelly. This is Glass Malone. This crip nig gonna throw your life away. Bitch. He's gonna bitch. I'm I'm Robert Kelly. Bitch. This nig ain't

got bitch. I had more Platinum Brecords and this nigg in the first two days, but he's still in secure enough to wear The bitches can't look to excuse me. The women cannot look up at you. M that ship is crazy that you could still be that insecure and you'll be Robert Kelly and they can't look up that So for you guys in here and they in here, they can't look at you like a pimp. That's what I was saying, like a pimp. But but that don't

mean you gotta pay to make them look up. Oh okay, so they can suck your dick when you pay them. They can look in your eyes when you pay them, but not before then. But even pimps is insecure. You where about somebody knocking your bitch. I'm let this bi go if you come back, it's truly my bit Some pimps like that. That's because it's a real so what I'm saying, so like with Robert Kelly, like this is r Kelly? How could this this nigger? And that's what

I think it's not he is insecure. That's what makes you act like that. I would be. I'd be out of control if I was Kelly Man, I'd be turning bitches around. Feel me what he is because he didn't really because he never he didn't date anyone or deal with anyone like on his stature like where they had the same people, sure though just not telling right now. They're ashamed. They're not saying he's a lot of them. You think you think, Yeah, yeah, I think. I don't think.

I don't think. But they just weren't going ship. Yeah, that's the thing. But I'm not mad at that. If you ship and this keeps knockingly ship and then uh, this little twenty ye old day girl ship and I like you these ship, I'm gonna get the one that's gonna ship because he wants the power as he want the power. I got power over her. But is that really power? For somebody to eat your ship? How is that? How do you like that? Is that not power? Though?

That's a lot of power and control, Like, don't feel here's the plate, it's not she did what I said, but for him, I don't even like, not for you, but for him ship it's enough. So miserable, I'll be like, oh I thought I had something this pictus crap. If I did that to a girl, she ain't my ship. I would never talk to her. That's why they wasn't really like in relationships with them. He was in a relationship with all of them every day. Were all his girls girls or his things? What do you mean that

though they were under his room? What do you mean they was all his women? Mm hmm. This is that could be your woman and she's eating ship and she's and if he was Kevin Gay's girl, he wants you to piss in his mouth. I mean, you think a girl but that. I'm not gonna be in a relationship with Kevin Gay. He wants me to piss in his mouth. Some girls might be like, oh, that's kind of kinky and kiss him after it, and they spitting pissed back in each other's mouth and ship that's they thing. But

she might feel powerful, he might feel powerful. You can't think this. I just thought about that. What you know what I'm saying, um put you're pissing? Who do you really like? She like? Nah? Just pissing his mouth? Was like look, Nah said, Nah said Brett. Look Na said nasty. Na said. I can't kiss him after that, though, but I might. What do he want you to kiss? I don't give a fun I was kissing the girl's mother kissing. I ain't gonna kiss probably. Yeah that's Na, that's not

like piss on me bread. I just think you're so gorgeous. He just baby shower. Nasty Nas like, okayden shower, you want a britt. I'm not kissing him, though, I'm saying, I don't know if or killers kissing them what she probably because he probably was. He probably let me tell you that at that point. But what if he ain't it with a knife ship chicken and they shared it in chicken ships. But it's like that, bro, he stop me. Okay,

the hope you get what I'm saying. Like so, in the same breath, Kevin Gates can say, you're so beautiful, I want you to piss on me. Mm hmm. R Kelly might say, like, look, if you really want I'm R Kelly, I am the king of R and B and I really need my women to be down with me to show me. I need you to do something that nobody else can make you do. They don't have any self esteem. No one has self I don't think no one. That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm not

buying that nobody ship. Listen. I had the greatest crushing history right now. Regina King is the greatest finest woman the world to me, Na King, find mother, I love it. She couldn't give me the ships ever, I don't know about what I'm blind. I wouldn't need no ship, Regina King ship ever? What you lying about I don't say I would need to pussy, but that's just old. But I'm saying I was thinking. I was saying, like the women that I think is the greatest, I still wouldn't

do these things at no age. So I don't believe it's a fact that they were immature young. They were desperate to be around or Kelly. I see. The thing is when this is what I realized about being the Mac, right when you were Mac. Women that are desperate to be around you would do anything to be around you. I don't think it's you praying on them. I think we have in the wrong conversations, right, we were saying,

why is R Kelly? Why are the R kelly and R Kelly's of the world the Elvis presidents of the world. Why are they looking underage women? Right? They're insecure? Whatever they insecure about, is it relevant? But when you think about the alias of the world and why they're looking up to it, why they want to sleep with R Kelly, they're actually making quality decisions. There's just rooted in some real ship. It's our fucking Kelly. What was he thinking?

One of them girls look like a little boy, um, little don look like a little boy, dressed like a little boy, and all they made a dress like she was just like a little boy, right, And I'm like, why would you funk with her? I get why they would sun with r Kelly or Kelly the greatest thing happened? Or Kelly better than that, because she's gonna do whatever it is that he wants her to do. That's why he sucks with all of them. But what more could you want them to do besides give you some pussy

and cook some food? But is it wrong if your mind is crazy and you can get people to do what you want them to do, but to be around you? Is that really wrong? If your mind, let's say your mind is let's say you are nigger who like people that burned themselves? Do you want us every girl you deal with to get the funk with you? They got a brand themselves. I want to want them to brand them. I'm branding a G right here? G you want it? You want me to give you this dick brand a

G on them? Am I wrong? Or are they wrong? For Brandon? Like you could say Glass, why am I brand that's on that? That's like if you say so, That's what I'm saying, I think the legal age and consent. I understand the conversation. But then once you look at the true ages and when he met those girls on that show, all of those girls except one who was of age. Right, So all the girls on that show, none of the girls on tape was even you know, they weren't involved, but all the girl that was in

the show was all of age. They want the whole show to make me look at our Kelly crazy. I knew our Kelly was crazy the first time I heard him. He talked about sucking on every song. Then he made another album that he talked about sucking. He made another album he talked about then he made another album when he talked about fun and I thought he was a perfect when I was young. I'm like this, love fucking m He don't even He just disguised way to talk about right. But my question to them is I knew

he was sucked up. What the fund is wrong with y'all? I never liked that. If Jesus came down, give me I know we know we love Jesus. We both love Jesus. God came and said, hey, Glass, I need you to eat this ship. We're gonna have a problem. I need you to eat this ship. Jesus died on the cross for y'all. Nigga seein. I wouldn't eat to play the ship to save you all life. I said, hey, Glass, you need to just play the ship to save all the humanity. Y'all be some dead motherfucker. Good looking out

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