Conversations About Mexicans In Hip Hop

What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your loaw glasses, Malone. That's the problem, Like when you have a podcast and ship and you have a conversation before you flush out really good ideas, you know what I'm saying for, Like, you could have talked about this shit on the fucking podcast.

It's like, shit we do in our thread, yeah, having long ass conversations and we're.

Like, why we didn't talk about this on the podcast, Like, and then you get in front of the podcast and you don't got nothing to talk about? That shit is the worst. That's fucked up. Damn hold up, I got to use the background girl? What is that? What's up with pause? Let's start with that? What is pause?

Yeah?

What is that? Fucking are you trying to be young?

No? No, I'm young.

First of all, was made by some old ass motherfuckers that are older than us and Dame Dash and camera on. What it is is for East Coast sympathizers like myself who mimic New York slang. I'm glad you know that it's okay. I can't accept that that's okay. But it's funny. I don't care it's funny. But you know what though, that's one of the things that we be talking about sometimes it's like everything's kind of like blurred lines now, Like I know that, so I do it because it's funny.

I'm not scared of cancel culture.

Nah. No. So pause is basically like you said, pull the mic clothes like yo, pause, Yo, what you're talking about pulling mic closer? Relax or just you could have just what you could have just said you need you need.

You said what you call your digging mic.

No, not at all.

It's just that what you tell your girl talking to the mic. That is that the new way to say. Give me some man talking to the micro.

And I've heard tell another man, hey man, grab grabbed the mic and pull it closer, to grab the mic and pull it closer to you.

You just don't know how the sexual indue windows came from. Hey, grab the microphone and pull it closer. Pause, pause, You don't know how the sexual inn windows came to that. See, it comes to a certain place where that ship just get out of hand. And this is why I feel like people on the West should not listen to too much East Coast hip hop because you'll have some ship that don't apply. It does apply, though, pulling the microphone closer.

To you not the act of a man telling another.

Man to pull the microphone closer to your mouth, Like.

Hey, bro, I need to hear a little bit louder on the mic. You could just say it like that. See how more manly that?

No that I don't understand why that had to be done.

Yeah, I don't get it. I don't get it.

Yeah, that's pause. That's Cam run and Mace.

I don't care what you say.

And that's the problem again, because you don't needies either. That being that Cam like I think Cam would say you're taking this out of context.

Cam, No, because they tell Cam he's taking it out of context.

No, no, No, People on the East Coast understand the context because maybe they would tell somebody to speak into the mic like that's giving head or getting head or whatever. I don't know how we me and you we've known each other twenty years, because twenty years and I've never told you, Yeah, that girl was blowing into my mic.

No, you've never done that.

No, so you've never told me too. I had that bitch speaking into the mic last night. I've never heard that, So I don't understand the sexual innuindow you feel me of Hey, pull the mic the microphone closer to your mouth.

That just doesn't sound right.

It actually sounds perfect.

You can just hey, speak loud.

Like yeah, like we're in the studio and you're like, yo, like that was just And that's why you can't adopt East Coast culture. Son, This is what's wrong. I've thought about this. Hey done, yo, son, Yo done? That's word.

God, I do done talk so done.

And see that's the problem, you know what. And honestly, since since we've always talked about this, that's always been my point, Like you're going to mishandle it and it's going to come across. Forgive me for using the time warning corny, because you're going to mishandle it.

But this is a conversation wearing a buffy coat at Cintamonica peer in the summer night.

I never did on the summer night. Definitely did it in the winter.

Was it like seventy one? It's risk.

Sixty thirty sixty four And I used to have the bubble jacket without the sleeves, likell, what the fuck it? I really did. I'm being honest. I'm just being honest.

Right, there's a way to talk. But we had we had a mod. We had we had a mod.

Yeah, but a mad even a MOD in them wasn't like that was more to us. That sounded more like J five, that was like more East coast.

Why did a mod sound like East coast?

Because he did it didn't sound West Coast, not to the traditional idea of what we were thinking was West Coast, which was at that time, like yeah, kangster rap, sound like that.

But West Coast hip hop has always been more than gangster rep.

I understand that.

I'm just telling you when you didn't know what as a Mexican hip hops, what I'm telling you, when you didn't know what direction to go in. That's why a lot of us more so kind of like drifted into into the East Coast. What about sound?

What about Look?

What about farce? Why what about farcide?

That was also that's that's like hieroglyphics and like Dell the funky Homo Sapien, like all that sound was kind of like East Coast, even though it was West Coast.

I mean, I can understand that, but I'm saying we've always on the west right T and Spade, like Toddy t and Spade since you know, the mid eighties. It wasn't about being a gang member. Like that's the thing, like, and this is why I've always like disputed y'all. It's like NWA is not about being gang members.

But there was a Look at what I'm saying, So if you didn't want to. So one thing about La g and we've talked about this. When you it can be anyone. But if you look a specific way, you open yourself up to get pressed for sure, hands down, No, yes, you do. If you back then, if you was wearing if you looked or dressed like food, like the Mexicans and colors, or like.

Uh, if you look at the streets.

Yes, if you look like the streets of La right, like Caine and and Old Dog.

Caine and Old Dog didn't really wear nothing.

I mean it was white teas Levi's and that's my point. I'm not but not everyone did. And if you did wear it, and you was in the in the neighborhoods that we were in, you were liable to somebody be like, hey, Holmie, where are you from. So if you didn't want to deal with that, you'd be like, yo, son, what's up?

Sun?

Defense?

Defense, the defense mechanism. So you you're like, yeah, I'm I wrap like the East Coast guys because I don't want to sound like you gang bangers.

So that okay.

So I'm taking you back to very early trans that's we're talking about ninety three ninety four.

So so this is no siblings. I got a headache already. Glasses Malone. My homeboy brought his homeboy.

Jazz are the jugging that I say, what's up going on?

Shout out to my brother Alcatraz Tony Nadio. So it's fantastic MC and a hip hop history in his own riot. He's been on the podcast before. But Trass is a Mexican hip hop artist. Jazz is mixed s Guatemalan, I mean for the most part, but he grew up in Southgate. Trash grew up in eigglehood, and I think that's the cornerstone. Well that's not even important, right because culturally, because culturally how you was raised is more important than how white

My mom put me from because I was in elementary and Southgate and then I got expelled and then she she was she working at Sony. Where'd you get expelled from from a fucking private school, Redeemer Long Beach Boulevard. So then my mom took me to uh to Culver City. And that's what was discussing the day he was talking about coverd City wasn't racially diverse, that motherfucker every Culver.

City because Culver City has a really underrated poor part that nobody talks about.

The projects.

I wouldn't call those projects project project. I know they're housing projects, but I just wouldn't reference because it's in Culver City, right But it very much is some bushes. So I'm not saying it ain't bullshit. I'm just saying when you go to Culver City, like in that poor, like that small, because they do have a ghetto right there. I have no idea why it's this little fucking ghetto right in the smack dead center of fucking Culver City,

At that time?

And it's crazy my whole life. So my moms, even though you grow up just believing whatever your.

Sure, they raised you.

The moms told me that my father was of a different race growing up, sure, but it never computed.

Like why is my skin color this dark?

Then?

Yeah, because there are some.

So you guys earn them around black folk. They embraced me so much and I'd be young, always wondering, like and I remember one time I was somewhere in somebody was playing and somebody says something like about nigga, my nigga, and I was like, I'm not black, and the mom was like, son, he was a nigga.

And I was like what.

And I went home and I told my mom like this lady said I was a nigga.

And she was all mad. She was like, who was it was a white lady.

I said no, she was a black lady.

Oh, And my mom gave me a look like it's gonna be deep.

But yeah, your question you always like in Southgate.

Because I know Southgate is for sure one of them plays that's like.

The Homie Horn that we have. He's Mexican and black and his mom is Mexican.

He you know, it's different. I was always the black g I Joe. You always had to be the black power rolls.

Always the black whatever ever, like we got our own now, I would always be that guy.

It's different for him because so wine like Jay grew up ju So shout out to the boy ju Wan Williams. His nigga name is Wan Williams. That's like the most Mexican and black shit ever. But it's funny because like he grew up in Southgate. So even as a person of what's the correct words Spanish speaking people descent over here on this side of the motherfucking globe, and to be he grew up in Southgate and South Grade is like a real Mexican type of place.

He did, no, he did?

Yes? Okay?

So Jay, you grew up in West Long Beach, right, and West Loan Beach is like a for real black experience as far as poor people go. So where you raised that is different because he right, like in Southgate, they probably might treat him like a nigga, you know what I'm saying. But where Jay is at, they gonna make sure the Mexico treat your ass like a nigga too.

And by him being over there is why his whole style has also been East Coast too, I guarantee you that's part of it.

No, it wasn't my style being East Coast actually came from me always being interested in the hip hop culture. Right. My first concert was I told you it was nineteen eighty nine and it was Beastie Boys and run DMC. But I was growing up like my mom's friends in the disco times and all that shit. All her friends' kids was DJs and breakdancers. Yeah, so I grew up

But that's where that's where my music at that.

Point was was listening to.

Yeah, the the nwas and all that wasn't was because I didn't grow up that way either.

That's my point.

He just was my point.

But both of y'all are really not making a point. I'm gonna tell you what.

We might not be making the right point.

No, no, but that's not even making a point at all. Right, you can make a point, right, but I'm saying the reality is, if you're from here and you're our age, nigga, you grew up on death row. Period. It don't matter what you chose. I did grow up on it. Like you don't have a choice, like none of us had a choice.

But death row was a small part.

No, death row was a small part that came and took over after already being flooded with.

Wan there was death row.

Well, yeah, I.

Guess you got that wrong. So you were purposely avoiding real life.

No, I think I think they were. They was all being played at the same time.

They were. It wasn't even yes, they were.

Chambers came out and what.

Exactly you are from Inglewood? Trust? For sure they were playing the Chronic everywhere.

I remember that you don't have you don't.

Have to remember it. It literally shaped your existence. So as much as you don't understand in this your desire right to choose outside of it is kind of the choice. It's not a reality for you because we all grew up shaped by excuse me, the uh the Chronic is ninety two, So that was before Doggie Style is ninety three. So wasn't no Illmatic, wasn't no fucking Wu Tang like you might have if you were lucky one or two people around you might have played Wu Tang or illmatic

Was just gonna be quote unquote backpackers, So they was all on the east.

Coast, right, and that's what it is.

It was.

It was the West side.

It's not it's not even west A listen to. It's not like I.

Was going to school when Big Boy was there from Barbweo six so he was DJing with Ray at them times as a student in the school. No, but he was influencing our music a lot because he did all the day.

No, no, no, but I get what he's said. He's right, like all of you pockets, Yeah yeah, yeah, No, no, no, what I'm saying.

If you if you like Wu Tang, forgive me. If you like Wu Tang or nas Eomatic at that time, those were pockets inside of our real world, Like that was like a kind of a dream outside. Like you on the West Coast, Yeah, you went into the bubble to me, even on the East Coast, like in real life, like the East Coast, it probably played way more. But these you gotta think like in real life, bro, Like people talk about Ellmatic in real time, like it was bigger than the Wu Tang album, And it wasn't. It

And that's what I'm saying.

That's but that's what I'm saying, though, Like I agree with that because I think what it was now that I'm thinking, like really thinking back, most of the homies in Inglewood, not my Mexican homies, the black homies were listening to death Row.

Most of the Mexican homies in Inglewood. Yeah, yes, and they were listening if they were listening to rap.

Mut I'm not saying they didn't hear it. They did.

No, No, I'm saying if they were listening to Because you gotta realize, like we don't stimulate the actual economy. We could say, hey, this is the trending thing. But if you're on the West and you having success, it's because Mexican audiences is buying your shit. This is where we've been at for the last twenty thirty years. This ain't something new, Like Mexican people make up the majority of the buying population outside of white folks on the West.

So I think I was part of that group that you're talking about as well.

Where you just whatever, did it get it?

Well, No, I wouldn't say maybe, I wouldn't say avoided it. I think for me, whoever, I gotta think back really well. But whatever crew I was hanging around with, like I remember the homie Indefinite remember in Depth or SUBI we listened to all that shit, but I remember he was always really big on raz Caz and like you know, corrupt and the way they rhymed.

Right, So then.

Yeah, I'm not saying you couldn't find one dude around or a few dudes in your crew. I'm telling you that don't make up your nigga. If you went to a party, that's what they was playing.

I liked.

I.

So you're right on your age what you're saying. But me, I'll say I avoided I liked the army pants. I liked the things that came with the Wu Tang and all that because at the time though, well at the because because I wasn't gang banging. And this is but at the time when the doggy style came out, I was living on sixty seventh and Cimarron, a Horseman with my grandma and auto on everybody. That's what was That's

I guess I would say of a gang.

But this is what throws me off right about this whole conversation, Doctor Dre is not a gang banger.

Yeah, but you couldn't tell us that one we're thirteen, fourteen.

Flying years Did he say cousin blood?

That didn't I didn't understand that at that.

You know what's funny is I never really associated.

Like how how did it not register to you that Wu Tang was way more street than Doctor Dre. That's the problem because that's and that's the bias. I've always kind.

Of accused you of it because because we're.

Talking about Wu Tang, who's rapping on they album about doing cocaine, shooting niggas, doing dust. But you look at Doctor Dre and like, man, you know them niggas right, there's gang bangers. These niggas are the worst niggas in you know what I mean at the time. And it's nine of these crazy niggas right, and all of their raps. And that's the point, Like you would think they was like Cipher, they'd be just rapping about hey dope bars.

So what do you think, Jazz, do you think maybe it was the fact that maybe we just gravitated more to like the beats and didn't really listen to the rhymes the way we were supposed to. As much as I know rhymes from Wu Tang like he's right in what he's saying. I have to think that maybe I was just more attracted to the beats the way they sounded as opposed to the West Coast where they were dope beats as well. But I just liked that harder boom. What I think I thought was harder.

I think mine, like I just say a second ago, was the fashion part of it that fas came with it.

I wasn't a Chucks and you had money.

No, I didn't.

I stole ship, so I made sure that.

So you was gonna steal army pants.

And Tim's and phone posits though still.

As too to you know, let's say Chikano rap artists, right, both of y'all are Chicano. I get the connotation, but we all know what Chicano means. So as as street urban guys that grew up in street urban with that Spanish influence on the West, we know that's a Chicano person, right, So why weren't you playing Cypress Hill or let's say Kid Frost at the time.

I actually I did pay play Kid Frost and I did play Cypress Hill.

You want to know something, I'm gonna be honest, Like, why wasn't you celebrating Cypress Hill? Who are street guys as much as let's say, a Wu Tang and they was rapping the same way I did as a sound. Sure yeah that Cypress Hill?

Yeah, uh we just because earlier Kid Frost was That's the whole other side.

Sure of l A.

You know what I'm saying. Still a lot of people.

Don't know when did that come out? What year did come out? Ninety one?

Soon around ninety two, ninety three? All this isn't the same time.

Right was ninety ninety three? It had to be about ninety one?

Hold on, let me look at it. Yeah, but I'm saying, why weren't you?

Well, No, what I was going to say was, I know for me, let me speak for me, because you know, Jazz has his own you know the way he ninety ninety right, so in nineteen ninety I had to be what about eleven twelve years old something like that. All right, So for me, what I start, what I do start? Remember right now that you're talking about, like, why did

I didn't get it.

Especially trying to do like a boy wearing a dress.

I mean, if I wouldn't use that comparison.

But yeah, I mean because it don't have it, don't it don't have to have a sec. I know we attach a section wind do we do right to what we do. But that's not what I'm saying. I give it just saying you don't have to be gay to wear a dress and heels. You know why you associated with being gay because you like, why would you wear a dress and heels? That's how I like, why would you dress like the East Coast?

And I think it was just because it's trying to my bad. It was just trying to be different. I wanted to be different. I didn't want to be When you started hearing Chicano rap like, I was like, oh they ainate doing they rapping like this dog that's how it's just right. Listen, I'm just being honest so I can try.

To I'm just saying make racist to like real Mexican rap. Well again as a Mexican.

Person, and I used to always tell y'all that no, no, no, but see again, A big part of it and this is and we that's a whole nother conversation, but a big part of that was being the fact like when Oscar de la Hoya with his crazy ass now.

But when he talks about how Mexicans treated him for being too whitewashed or because he spoke a little bit too proper, like Mexicans really do shit like that. So then it makes you go, well, fuck you whoever, whatever you're going to be, No, no, no, not Mexican people a group of whatever they are. So for me in particular, at one time, it was Cholo's that acted that way.

I'm watching them do this, I'm like.

You guys are fucking posers, perpetrators.

When you did it, you were a Mayotheto.

When I did it, I was a Mayatheto, sure, right, but I also didn't understand that A big part of why they were telling me that was because I was imitating East Coast hip hop in my dressing, so to them, I was trying to be Not only was I trying to be black, I was trying to be black from a whole nother coast. So it really stuck out.

Well, you gotta realize, La, the most underrated part of where we all from, right is there's really one culture that's the problem. Like if you're from where we're from, not you you from Inglewood, So y'all still have some shit. But on our side of town, right on the east side, Watch Concis, South south Gate, Lynnwood, all that Long Beach, we're one culture. I grew up my whole life eating savice to Molly's, Mexican food, Mexican friends, the whole thing.

So imagine being go ahead Jae my thing too, he said, personal differences like I said, being black and watermelon and then having beef all the time with Mexicans and getting confused.

I had a major identity thing.

Sure then knowing yo, like why black folks suckled me so much? And it seemed like my mom it was a toiler so.

Cortes, No, no, I was a quartet. No, you're not gonna be a game. You're not one of us.

You're not gonna dress like I'm like, so what the fuck do I wear it?

Then?

So now I'm trying to find And then when I got the transition from Southgate to Culver.

City culture, yeah, WHOA, now on your pants. I'm it's really less culture in Cuver City compared and and shout out to the covers projects. No culture it is.

It's not.

It's more mixed cultures.

It's not. That's not how it.

Works, right, culture tell you that's why it gets confused.

It's not because it's mainstream.

That's fine, but there's no when you.

Listen, there's no culture in Santa Monica. It's a it's just tradition. Like and in affluent communities, there's no cultures, just tradition. It's a mainstream thing. Culture is birth out of poverty. It's only in poverty. That's why I'm not no say to Santa Monica, Culver City, because Converce City you got some ship. But they just like Tolos from East La. When you get to the culture part of them, the real part like them niggas is them motherfuckers is

That was like the richer you know what I'm saying, But Darryl Heights getting you.

Over here, You're closer, You're closer to it over there. But the point I'm saying is, so that's what I'm saying a lot of the ideas, and I think that's part of it right is because the further you go west, it is less culture, not so culture being this thing rooted like you know, in poverty, in oppression. That's why you birth it. The lingo in the slang right comes from bad education programs that are not translating to educating students. Dickies are not like some nigga shows like oh these

Right.

Cortez was cheap. They were not like they had tennis shoes that were more expensive. These were cheaply and cheaper made running shoes. I could get anything but Cortes and Chucks.

And it's funny that you said that because my dad, who grew up in Santa Monica, from Santa Monica, who wore pendletons, Dickies wallabies in his time, which that's what it was.

It was wallabies and hard bottom.

Shoes for them.

Wallabes just steal that shit for us.

Right for sure? You know. And that's funny, right because that was nothing. I used to love wearing with wallabies, but I always identified it with ghosts and yeah, crazy right, But no, I get I get what you're saying. I get everything that you're saying. Gee, I think so were you guys would you say, let me ask you a question, now, would you say that maybe that's why we got the hate so to speak. I guess, if you want to call it, that was because maybe we didn't grow up

So and it was all the white boys.

But even now that I think back, the brothers that were there, even if they were from Venice or Inglewood or even up to the sixth fashion show, it was more like a fashion show.

Yeah, sixties created like a show, right, that's what we're saying. But the West Side is like that, like the sixties created. The sixties created kind of to me the gang banger nerdy docker looks. They were the first ones wearing dockers to me as a gang banger, because it's in my time, the sixth old started wearing dockers first and butting up shirts and all that, and that's the West Side thing. But it's also I agree, because you motherfuckers had money, so.

Eddie Bower and shit, that's what it're just talking about.

So it's like, so what's starting to make sense to me is I never caught this part?

Well?

And then when he said it y'all parents, is why y'all not like that? Yeah, your parents like it, like most people, parents bought them dickies. They didn't have a choice, right, you know what I mean? You didn't have a choice. Wasn't nobody finna drop you off at Santa Monica, Nigga, You're going to school at Inglewood High School on Morningside.

Well, they were trying to keep us away from now it makes sense.

Actually that's why I didn't.

I did have a dad that was like, now, you're not gonna wear that because you're not going to look like the little, you know, little gang banger out there on the corner. That's how he would look at it, mind you he comes from that. See, I went to school in Inglewood, Like, I didn't grow up in Santa Monica per se. Originally we moved to Inglewood. I went to school all of my elementary And the only reason I got into Santa Monica was because my pops got

Radius because it's really cheap living right there.

Right and there's rent control and all that. So you know, going going going to Santa Monica. Though those Mexicans, oddly enough, most of them were choloslos like you said, like maybe like an East Lacholo. So when I went to school, you know, I remember going to school even in Lincoln Middle School. They was already looking at me like that

You know it's not like that. Remember ll is produced by West Coast, the nigga who started forties producer.

I didn't know that it's weird because I was banging you know what album I was banging banging on X and I wasn't a game member.

Well that's Battlecat right. So again a lot of the music. So the album you talk about, because you're not talking about the first L record, we're too young for that. You're talking about Bigger and Deafer Bad, I Need Love that's produced by somebody right here.

From the West Coast pool and bodcast. So then what I was clearly being influenced by was television.

Then well I don't think I don't think that what I think happened was right.

This is gonna sound crazy, right, but most people parents raise them. When you don't have money, you have to buy what's affordable clothes. The clothes began to send different type of people your way. That's when the people start to influence you. But when you on the West Side and you were in like these affluent places. Because I went to Arteesa High school for one year, my mom wouldn't let me go to Compton High, No Jordan, no Lock because they didn't have AP classes. She's like, yo,

Shout out, Manny, So we're the Manning's of our generations.

Actually, right, So well, it's different because Manny didn't grow up on nothing else. But hell no, Manny is a poor motherfucker. Shout out to Manny. Manny's on Ace Boy Worldwide podcast every Friday, Homy Punisher, how many trade.

He lives everything?

But now that's because guess what, he's a traveling, paid, affluent black man. So at this point he's just he's mainstream. Like if you see man he has no cultural identity, like he'll just listen to whatever, because that's how it is in mainstream America. So when you at Santa Monica or you go to these really nice, affluent schools where people don't need anything to create the identity. Like, remember, poverty creates this personal need to hold on to something.

And it was like that because me going I always lived in Southgate.

But I was going to school course City.

I dressed and fit in when I went to school. When I came back to Southgate, you look crazy. I look crazy, same to me for me, And because Southgate is still a poor place exactly, it's really a poor place. And me and him, me and I was discussing this all my friends in Kobe City and he was like, no, I said, it was all gang members, but their parents was fucking lawyers, doctors, all.

Kinds of shit.

Well that's that's west Side game, banging, west Side game, maan. And necessarily they all came to school fresh as shit with money. I told one of my friends was sixteen, was coming to school and his dad's Porsche.

Well what I'm saying. So it's like, so there are some gangs that are in affluent communities, you know what I mean, And they do got these little because don't get me wrong, like where the grave yards at it's a poor little niche. Yeah, but the sound of fucking Monica, right, you know what I'm saying.

So it is this little poor spot, but the nigga is as soon as you step a couple of blocks, you.

And some coin. Same with Venice, like the shore lines where they from. You know, one thing that you ever don't know about Venice is like there's a part over there that's like one of the earliest places black people settled in Los Angeles, Oakwood. I forgot what it's called. I'm gonna look it up, but like nineteen twenties, thirties, like that's how long black people was in Venice. So Venice,

Right, and we're gonna protect ourselves.

And guess what, now you got a gang.

Yeah that makes sense, but it's it's just weird to me.

Like I said that you culturally don't well, I guess that's the truth. That's what's wrong. You didn't have if you go to Santa Monica, right, like, yeah, you from Inglewood, and Inglewood is already like a place that could be considered a middle class community. It was it isn't kind of not well, the Bottoms has its area and some

If you from where we're from, you go Inglewood.

You moved up.

Yeah, you moved one clove.

Make sense, Well, it's just a better place.

It's better. Well no, no, no, no, you don't know what to wats it was like, it makes even Yeah, but it makes sense even in the grand scheme of history, like going back to the fifties when blacks and Latinos couldn't come past the East La Bridge and then Alameda.

Right, nothing across Alamedia nothing.

And then and then once you once you were allowed to, it was like you're you were getting in this better area. And that's how it was always looked at. So I get it, man, But listen, I understood it. I'm glad that it's even though it's come a lot later for me, Like I get it now. You know. I was able to, you know, shout out to the homie Midget local, you know what I mean.

Like shout out to Midget you know.

Him, the guy the brother Burst Rock, twenty seven Junkies, Oreo, the homie Breeze, Shout out to Breeze, OBM. You know, those were the guys that really started connecting me with working with like you know, Spanky Local and like you know Midget Local who I met Spanky Local through Midget and just being able to talk to him, you know. And I've told the story many times. It's like I really grasped everything. And he even kind of goes, yeah, we did look at you guys like that, he goes,

But you did say your pop's got the job. That's a good job. So that yeah, yeah, that good job. Yeah, a good job. So yeah, for sure.

My mom's was working at as Sony at Columbia Pictures, right, right, you know what I'm saying.

So yeah, he's right.

We did have I and I didn't think of it that way because when it was school shopping, it wasn't to the Swami, right, it was to maybe the less was like shoe city to buy some shoes. But my call canis my cross colors was Fox Hills mall right, right, and even everybody can go to Fox Hills Mall and go shopping and that's kind of shopping. And that's kind of crazy, bro, because look, thinking about it back then as a kid too, you got to think about this.

You did it, Yeah, shout out.

I was just gonna say that, But think about it.

We used to probably think, oh, well, we're not like the rich white kids who have every color on every shoe. So yeah we got this, but we're not rich.

I got bottom cross colors, right, but it was still from fox Hill's mall.

And as kids, you don't think because you're you know, at that time, like I didn't really start realizing a lot of the cultural shock to me came once I got into high school, bro at Santa Monica, and I started messing with chicks from East La or El Sereno or you know, El Sad I know, you know what I mean, Like, and I would be in those areas and you kind of were like, you know, like I'd be like, you know, oh ship, Like you know, at

But again it come money.

We had some money and.

Not a ton of money. Because that's the problem with LA because we know money is really close. Like that's the thing. Even in Why to Southgate money is fucking fifteen minutes away, So Inglewood money is four minutes away. So you always looked at real money. It was like, well I don't got money like that, but compared to East La Southgate, that's money. So yeah, it's that town in Venice. That part of Venice, LA is called Oakwood. It's called Dog Oakwood Town.

Now, yes, for.

There was Dog Town, there was Oakwood. In the early nineteen hundred, real estate developer Abbic Kenny hired African Americans to construct the canals and name the district the Venice of California, which is after Italy. The nineteen twenties, a small black community, mainly employees of Abby Kenny, were centered north of Electric Avenue between Westminster and San Juan Avenues.

Well, that's when they call the redlining, that's what that was.

So that's one of the first I think that is the first place on the West Side that black people. That might be the first place in l A.

That city allowed it and.

Only have like you y'all gonna build this year, but you niggas can live right here. What's dope about this podcast today? And and I finally figured it out. It's poverty. So you had the choice to to to kind of

That's why moms didn't let me south Gate and it hands.

Down, Yeah, and you for sure.

And it's funny you said, because then Death was raised by his grandmother, right, and grandma lived right on Sentinella in Santa Monica like that Westwood, kind of like mar Vista almost area, which is a really nice area. I think she was an educated, really nice woman too. But that's crazy now that i'm thinking about. You're right, even like the homie Roy Davidson, they was all venice, you know what I mean.

So they you said it earlier though she could afford it, your parents can afford it.

I was able to buy. And that's why I'm saying, like the hip hop part of culture is you have to be proud of it because it's fucked up, so you don't want to be insecure, so you compensate with a pride of it as a representation like Dickie's it's a work pants, nigga, that's a work pants. That's a factory pants for people working in a factory. And this was the only thing people moms and dads could afford to start a school year, and you didn't have no money.

So now I have a question that has nothing to do with us. Maybe you can answer it for us. What is your thoughts and maybe your thoughts to what you could think when you think about it too, But I know he'll be able to for sure answer this. What about the guys who did grow up like that then got a little money and switched up. So like I know that there was Charlo's, the guys that I know that wore the Chucks, that wore the vans, that

But that's that's the point of that's why, that's the point, right.

So then, but how do they lose themselves?

Is what I'm saying.

Didn't lose They only held it because you had to be proud of being that poor. That's how you was proud to be poor. You couldn't make fun of me with your nice shoes and I got my chucks. Bitch, I'm the real deal out here. This is me. You just a sellout.

You look like That's what they were trying.

You didn't look like you didn't look like us, you know, I mean you didn't look Yeah, you didn't look poor.

You looked at like choice. That's all the translation. So that's why they had to put the pressure on you, because it's like either if they gonna say, look at him over there with money. That's what it is.

And that's what they was hating on, not so much weapons.

It's not even I wouldn't even call it hating poor people looking at people with money. It's not hating, like I hate that. That's the narrative today, Like there's.

A fucking real eason.

Why I call it?

I understand, But listen to what I'm saying poor people. Like if a motherfucker is starving outside, he's looking at a window and you got a big ass steak and he like, bitch ass nigga got that steak. He's not hating, he's hungry. Hating is when you're making a conscious choice to react. I'm tired of hating being the go to thing. It's not bro. People are poor. I'm not saying they should be mad at you. That's a complex of poverty, but they're not hating on you. They like damn. I

Yeah, So are you talking about in terms of putting that up against a high end luxury car, because now an old school car, you do that and it's worth more than any piece of shit.

Guess what at this place now, culture is completely different. If you went to a soulful restaurant that was the highest solful rest they probably charged more than Flemings. You know what I'm saying, Because culture right now is poverty is fleeting in America right now. You just broke. Ain't really no poverty, especially not where we're from. Like a house and.

Watch costs five hundred thousand dollars. This is the worst place in Black La Watts. A house on the seven is five hundred thousand nigga, you cannot be a poor person. You can be broke, but you can't be poor class.

Ain't no more people in the house doing drugs, not paying this rent, you know what I'm saying. It's no more that like, ain't no more just hanging out, drinking and fucking up. Everybody got a job to pay this rent, this.

Rent in La but another pushing people to the outskirts, which.

Is where that is in the jungles.

That does you in the jungle, she's paying twenty four hundred.

Yeah, all that is gentrified and just you know for sure.

So when you gentrified, you lose culture. And that's what I was saying to you earlier when you I think you was kind of almost got offended. You have tradition in middle class, in affluent community, you don't have culture. You have tradition. You could have things that we all do just because we just want to do them. Culture is a force. It's a way of life that you live because of the conditions. You don't have a choice, you know. I mean, the fashion is cheap. Ain't no

It's white culture.

It's not culture at all, because white people don't wear that shit. It's not culture. It's just it's just clothes, don't It don't mean nothing. If you wear some Dickies it means something facts, But it didn't mean nothing when they first started wearing them. It was just this was what the poor people in LA was going to get because this is what HP sold. The shit of HP had this. HP had Chucks, Cortes and Dickies and Ben Davis and Carhart. That's what you want work clothes solo.

So let's jump around to something real quick. So why do you think so at that time thinking about those those fabrics of clothing, right, Because that's what we could afford. If you think about like our parents, right, or pair of our friends' parents even you know what I mean, like the way they dressed as adults at the age we are now, right, even yourself still right, like you still will wear Chucks. You're you know, we're at a certain age now that our parents were. So why do

Obviously, you're wearing mainstream attire correct, completely topped about. Sure I'm dressed like a crip, So he's not. Yeah, like you're wearing what you can afford. Sure, you're wearing four hundred dollars shoes. Them shoes are seven hundred dollars today.

But they're but that's not but that's not what they cost retail. Yeah, retailer is two thirty something to twenty to twenty.

The retail on my shoes is fifty six dollars.

That's not true about some for my daughter the other day they were almost seventy four dollars. So don't like to me.

Okay, So these were fifty six, so they went up again. So the point I'm saying is.

But I get what you're saying, right.

That shirt is probably thirty or forty dollars.

Yes, but it's not anything. This is shout out to.

The homie law from Germany.

It says Rock the Bells.

Yeah, yeah, he did it. He did a collab.

The artist did a collab and I follow him on Instagram.

Totally understand that. But that's like Maine.

It's not mainstream.

Yes, is mainstream.

Oh it because Rock the Bells got you.

It has ODB on the back. Yes, yes, a dead rapper. That's black. The whitest thing ever.

That's the whitest thing ever.

Shout OUTDB man, like a dead black a dead black wrapper on your shirt is the whitest thing you could do.

Why it's paying homage to hip hop, it's.

Making it making money off of somebody.

You know you'll be able to make some money off. All I know is, you know, you know white people love dead black entertainers.

How many shirtslive? But how many shirts had O DB's face on it alive?

How many? Is you win?

I had wo tank shirts and don't play with me.

No, they didn't really.

Have merch like that back then. Let's just be honest. That's some that's not their merch right now. Huh, that's not their merch right now.

I don't know what's going on.

Can be tied to his family, You don't know that. A matter of fact, I'm gonna ask.

Law if young throwing under there. So that's about fifty bucks. So it's about two seventy in the shoes because them, for sure it's to seventy.

Yeah, no, key to the Adida socks ain't normal.

The Adida socks is twenty six dollars that had his fifty bucks.

He didn't even argue the twenty six dollars stuff that.

Had his fifty bucks.

This is also an independent.

That had his fiftieth sixty dollars.

This is an so let me tell you say it fifty years hold on, hold on, shout out to the homies that X marks the spot twenty two out in the Bronx, New York. He makes some fly ass ship bro La and West Coast style hats.

And this is an independent.

He's been sued by New Error because of his hats and like they've shut down his page. So this is not mainstream. The idea might be of what's on it.

It's mainstream.

No, but it's an independent guy doing this thing. It's actually culture.

It's actually an independent probably white guy.

No, he's Puerto Rican. It's not white. I know, you guys like to call Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. He call us white.

But because it's only black, white, and Asian, that's the only three races.

Did you you know that? Did you know that it's cacazoid, Lloyd and Nero, those three original men of that everything nigga, what rod no, even no niggas is not talking about the original is Cocazoid?

Is that where Caucasian comes from? For white even mountains.

And the Mongoloids there was.

Like you, I mean, it's the initial place of where that race came came from. Sure, all that stuff it's just sound racist, but so what I'm saying is yeah, but I'm saying so the concept is, yes, your money right you you you're making a living. I mean, and and don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to get on a podcast act like you're rich, but you can afford to take care of yourself and show you. So it's it's not like the Tolos didn't want to wear the hip thing. They couldn't afford to wear the.

Hip thing, so so talk shit about you well, and then when they can afford it later, then they decided they would go ahead and wear that.

That's always the cake got you. I get it.

I just again have mercy on us. I know, because I can't say understanding. I can't even say us no, because I didn't have to wear none of that shit. I had crawl canine, cross colored, yous damage all that shit. But growing up in Compton and watch, I kind of had an affinity for our people. So even though you had something there.

I think from my understanding, you was also a good fighter.

See I wasn't the best fighting.

I didn't really become I could fight even before I knew, but I didn't realize I could fight till I was about eighteen nineteen. Okay, but that's not the point. My mom even though prime example, like right my mom where I grew up at in Compton, at my mom's house my dad is the seven right, which is like this super enterprise community right enterprise like there are is like a it's like an economic tyrant in the in the d Boy community at these times. I mean, so it's

Right.

I knew how to ride a horse at six. I knew how to swim at six in Compton, smack dad in Compton.

So if you you because I remember you told me this, you know at Rest in Peace Olivia. She was also a nurse, right, yeah, so if you had Brad, she could afford these things. What made you stick to what it was?

It wasn't what it was? Right, I identified with poor black people.

Why if you weren't poor.

Everybody else was. So that's the problem because I didn't get to So maybe if I go to school somewhere else. You know, I didn't go to Kennedy. I didn't go to Walton Middle School.

You know.

I went to our teacher one year and I was at Paramount. At Paramount got ap classes. But Paramount is like a baby Southgate shut out. No disrespect to all the homies in Paramount. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying as far as like how fucking gang infested? It is, like that's some shit, you know what I mean, so I was never separated far enough from poor people to ever see myself outside of them, like in your like wherever I went except Artisa because Artisia had the Wu

Wait, I have a question. I know that this is jumping into the two thousands, but how did you Didn't you have a homie that thought of you from the Saint Lunatics? Yes?

But why?

But it wats like it's different because Watts is like this really weird connection to other black communities outside of La Like there was a time niggas in wicht I think it was no limit. Like so his older brothers, so Snoopy's older brothers, because that's how you talking about Junior. Junior used to wear the band aid on his eye, wear vocal all the time. His older brother changed his name to His name was Chocolate since he was little because he was dark as fuck, right, But he changed

I never cared because it was poor people right there. You know he told me about used. I didn't even know what that was.

That was the script pants that looked like they were used, except they were brand new jackets we're.

Wearing now with purple brand. Basically, No, it looked like ridgeings.

It looks like clothing damage was the same way damaged damage. Yeah it was. I had all design and ship growing up. I never had to wear Chuck's quarte till I started buying my ship. Yes, right, But I also would dress it down. I would just have a sub chose to dress down. Yeah right, Like I had to bro, Like when I tell you I had Carl Knni Bro, I had to kral Kni with it. I had probably it was school years bro. Shout out to Olivia, rest her soul I love my mama because she was even though

But that was still some West Coast shit, though, wasn't it.

No, No, no, that was money ship. That's black money. That was looking that was looking like tretch. Yeah, that's black money, right, black money. Just look at it like this, that's black money, got you. I mean like those brands were the beginning of black money. Caral Kanad to me, now, I don't know it could be like because I think Sergio Tacini and all that ship was like Italian designers or something. But black money, initially on a mainstream level

So so now I guess that's exactly what it was being black, because I loved all that ship. I didn't know it was mainstream, but I guess that's the thing that would look at it.

That was the beginning of mainstream success culture like if that, if that, if you want to call that culture that was mainstream black, like we started that's the first time. And then obviously Jay comes with Rocker, where what's come with fat from Sean John? All of those followed, Karl Kanai and Fooble and all of these ideas.

But that makes sense by you saying that was rich black attire.

But that's not that's not I don't. I don't. So when I'm saying rich black, I mean like I mean, they were like mainstream black designers.

Sure, but white kids wasn't wearing them yet. That was still in the hoods for a minute before it really kind of like.

Sure it was. It was we powered it. Black people powered it. Because if you had if you had some money used from where we're from, or you was black. You powered it.

So imagine being the Mexican kid doing that. Who was was able to do that?

Well, you grew up in Inglewood, it's not That's my point. So that's why I'm really careful with We had this conversation earlier. I don't like having it. But like, black culture is an overstated thing. There's very few things out are black culture. Like right, most of the things we referred to as black culture is poor street urban culture. M you know, I mean, like we talked about hip hop.

It, especially being on the East Coast you had the attack.

They wasn't at that, but we were influenced by them. Like remember they Jewish people had the ghetto, so certain things passed from street culture to street culture. Like that's why you hear rappers with names like Capone. You hear rappers, you know, white people, nor Riega. You hear rappers like with different names from different walks of street life. You know what I mean? Like those are not you know, black.

And you know it's just y'all.

Do Southgate.

People always be like, oh, that's the Ridge site, and I'd be like, but the homies like from Watts say, but I remember being younger and being in Southgate and literally crossover the track, literally cross over the tracks and be like, wow, I Southgate is a poor place till you cross the watch. He'd be like, what.

The fuck you just went to a fucking Africa? What just happened here to third world country?

Yeah?

You know what I'm saying. So, but that's how that's how each that LA looks at Southgate because Southgate is poor like in the grand skin of Los Angeles. But compared to these La, Southgate is some money.

You know what.

I Like if somebody moved from East LA to south Gate, they moved.

But you know, it always tripped me out about about East La though, Like when I started going over there and I understood that it was gang infested, and you know that it was I guess quote unquote poor right.

Quote unquote nigga East LA is poor.

Still, well, okay, you could buy houses east to eighty east a lot of right now, there's houses in East Lafe for too eighty. You know a lot of where in East La it's a.

Ship for to eighty.

Still you don't want to move over there.

I don't know what even even if you buy okay that it made you jump you didn't jump up and be like you know what, I'm finna go you still like to.

But what trips me out?

Though? Okay, let's say that that is true, true, or it is true right then I still used to trip out how big their houses were on DALs.

They have some ship. That's cool, but that's not really what we am. We say, Yeah, so what part of EA were talking about the places that's really next door to each other that ain't had parking since the fifties? Like how you know how the rest of LA don't got parking now because everybody's there and everybody live on

Park down down the hill they had.

The park, it wasn't no fucking hill. That's that's a specific party. East l A is the real motherfucking deal.

I'm trying to figure out where you're talking about.

What part of you gotta go through it. That's what I said. That sh it ain't all on no motherfucking.

Is, because everything I see over there seems super gentrified. Now, like all I see are cafes and.

Nah, you're talking.

Yeah they changed the name of that. Yeah, they changed the name of that park area. They actually changed the name of that party.

You start coming Heights is like that.

But yeah, but you gotta keep coming mores like because all of that was East l A by the seven ten freeway, all.

Of that was East LA.

Oh that's considered east.

That's the real East LA.

By the seventeen you're talking about it hit Terrace and by even there that's yeah, Hazard projects that backside of a cow state.

We shot the Kanye video.

You know, it's crazy. I never considered that East. I thought that was already going into.

Like that is. But that's a yeah. But what I'm saying to you is those places are gingerfied. That's why, like nobody called those places Boyle Heights all the whole time, or the other place, Echo Park for a long time. I remember when it happened. I'm saying. What I'm telling you is when you start going there, that's not what we were talking about we was talking about East l A. No, like nobody black was ever scared to go to Boil Heights. Shout out to boy, he got some gangsters. But I'm

No no, no, no, no no. They know I've been over there and I did say it, and it was an issue.

But what I was gonna say.

They used to refer to us any they used to work anyway as west side Mexicans.

They used to say, like those are west.

Side, like you could tell by the way.

They even even east La. It's changed, it's changed recently. You said it over you just said it earlier. Another thing, low riding, it's still l a low slow bombs that's considered the other Mexicans or y'all be hopping the six four.

But I used to talk ship about the other Mexicans.

I didn't even know because.

Bombs on the bombs slow cruise.

We don't hop ship.

Oh that makes sense, blackt hop it.

And that's not just the complete truth because he was at the beginning of that too. But they talk shit because it costs more money to hop your shit.

So if you had more money, you were food food basically.

Well, you just was putting on like nobody likes.

Nobody likes money, bro, you think you're upity, Well it's not up at the it's not they think you think you.

They have to feel that way because they're holding on to the not havels, so they make it a cultural identity. We have to like you like poor people have to because you don't have anything else. That's why son as niggas get something else, they start dressing different. Niggas. I got some money.

So let me ask you a question. Do you think that still is relevant? I mean, obviously it is. And today I was talking to Jazz earlier. So Jazz is the person if you watch his Instagram right like funny ass, colorful dude, great personality, Yo, he can wrap his ass off. But he likes at one time, and you know, I'm sure it wasn't the only one. I would telling him like, oh, stop focusing on the people that are hating on you. Focus on people that you know support you. But now

I'm getting to the next level, and somebody.

Will come and be like, you ain't getting to no other level, Like what the fuck? Because I've never been that, you know me. Huh.

He's black, he's black with a Spanish following. He's a target going for sure.

Damn are the people leaving the comments Mexican or like Spanish or whatever? Yeah, ah, that kind of makes sense. So they just being racist.

It's not it's not racist. It's like, yes it is, but yes, it's not like it's more it's deep.

It's deep because let's always tell people talking is way different than you said. Always because me is deep. Because he makes people from he's going to Yeah, he's he's gonna make people uncomfortable. He represents something that I can't speak up.

For the Hispanic Latino whatever without.

Some of them on black size.

I knew he was gonna flip and go back to them, like what niggas what are you talking about? Or I'll get hey, dog, you're always defending the blacks food.

What's up with that ship? Like, what do you mean? I'm always the fa I'm fucking black? What is he talking about?

I get that till this day, which is weird, you know, not weird, but I.

Mean he was sure as a sellout, always defending the blacks. I love when they use the blacks.

That ship is the.

Blackie, bro.

And he always said, I think it's because he like Nigerious, so he be like the blacks on the.

Nigerians don't see hold up, yeah different, that's how they really feel. Damn sellout man, that's not And I know that's a tender spot for you right as a Mexican person, because but that's why they feel like that, bro, because people define a lot of like Mexican is defined in poverty. Black is defined in poverty. Everything that we forgive me this is niggas is gonna be on my head when I say this, but fuck these niggas. The truth we

That's not even a real food though.

You know, it's not just the poor shit.

It's the way you put some shit together to make sure you fool you put you put all the starches.

And the meats and shit together and you just be like, this is feel him up. It's cheap poor. So so again made a whole day over it. Yes we didn't exactly, Like poverty has created a day claim to day, Like that's the thing about that's dope about poor people and the influence that we can have. Right, It's like we celebrated so hard that people be like, damn, maybe I'm sleeping on these tacos. I need you know this tacos. You know what I mean. And that's how it is,

Where's he from?

Like Hawaii?

Oh?

If Obama had just really laid out the real story, niggas would have not connected with him. It makes sense, like it'll be some niggas that's seen him and be like, yeah he but if he like nigga, everybody I know was like, he's from Chicago, So you know a nigga from Chicago as a boy.

Well, that's funny that you're saying that too, because I've noticed that maybe a little bit more now because he tries to make it a point. But motherfuckers, wasn't really fucking with the rock like that.

No, because because he not from he's not from where he's black, but he's like not from where we from black, right, you know what I'm saying. But think about it. Who you think is the most influential Mexican in all of the world, Like, excuse me, in all of America? Chapel, you know who the guy is, mister cartoon. Oh shit, I was in the fucking Allder part store of the day O'riley's This nigga got a line because of tire

Maybe that's why I never made it really like as a.

Exactly That's what I've been doing. That's what I just was telling you.

But everything we talk about culchally, I'm telling you your job is to represent poor people. And it's a trick because people tell me, you see the way I'm dressed. I'm dressed just like you, but there's a story behind me.

And I thought this. Now, people always tell me, Bro, you fuck you mean you from skid row? What do you mean you did that? That's what people want.

People want to hear that you lived on skid row for ten years.

Who the fuck wants I have this? I have this conversation multiple times, Bro Kanye. People always ask me if somebody is a plant, Kanye would have been a plant. That's you know. I love Kanye's in my top five. Kanye is the first nigga that did not grow up. But because he says Chicago, we're like, oh, he like one of us. But nigga, Chicago is like a black place that has levels. Nigga's a wealthy Chicago Black people just like it's a poor one. See that ain't out here,

He says south Side Chicago even.

Crazier because you're like, ooh right, But bro, nobody's ever been intrigue with Eddie Winslow. Nobody's ever been intrigued with theo.

Huxtable until never wasn't I'm saying until Kanye.

No, they didn't know that. Nobody realized. Nobody realized he was theo Huxtable. Nobody realized he was Eddie Winslow. Nobody realized that.

They all thought he said south Side Chicago, We're like, oh, oh, he dropped out of college too.

Oh, this nigga kind of smart and he from South Side Chicago.

That makes me think of that episode on The Fresh Prince when Carlton went to MacArthur Park.

Do you remember that he was hanging with the gangs and he was zeus and them.

Yeah, he's like what they call we like seat low and he was trying hard to be from the hood because he was.

Loved yo Ma. So so again it's like, you have to represent hip hop is all about representation, and it's about representing poor people like it don't have to be poor. But it's densely populated, crime written communities. That's not a lot of affluent, middle class communities. Crime written that ain't opportunities are present. So you know, there's not a huge need for crimes when there's jobs and opportunities and success

But that's also and that's what me and Jazz were talking about this the other day, you know, because we're trying to put together this podcast, sneaker podcast I told you about. We were talking about that was also during the time too, where when you floss like that, that's why you got jacks for your.

Yeah, because motherfuckers, And it's not just floss and it's just like, Nigga, I can't get this right. And it's crazy you said that because Means told me the other day he said, be careful what you're putting out there, and he said, cause niggas is watching you. And you touched under the second and going so that you you be out taking your wife to dinner. You got gold chains on your neck, you got two whips, you dressed nice, you forget fresh as shoes, you always fucking You're not

And at the end of the day, it ain't just somebody like want to see you down as much as somebody want to come up. If you make yourself a come up publicly, yeah, if you make yourself a come up ship, motherfuck, don't come up right man. I didn't been able to afford a thirty million row lessons. It's over like I didn't been able to buy a rolex every year I've been a rapper. I could have bought a rolex afforded it. But why am I giving nigga a chance to make ten thousand that way off me.

You want to know something what I do like about today's society. And here's the thing though, right, like when you dress a certain way, like I've learned to do that shit like when I go certain places with G. Now even though I know I'm I'm I'm good right because I got the homie with me, anything can still happen, right, But I've noticed when I've gone places with him that he takes me certain places in watts or different areas,

You'd be the lick possibly, but you don't have to be. Yeah, but I don't. Well, I mean they could try.

I'd I'd be offended if they didn't. You if you if if you got on one hundred thousd dollar word for jewelry and you come to watch and niggas don't rob you I'm mad that they didn't. Ain't got a bitch, and.

That's what you could change your life. But see nowadays it's more so like if I go like this, this is timple, I mean.

Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's fair.

Pretty normal. I'm not doing nothing, got it. You start wearing multiple chains and it's definitely pour.

Enough people that that right there for sure get you two nights to dinner. That's probably a real chain. That might be about one hundred and fifty dollars. But this right here, so you just don't need to be going places in that type of shit on where niggas can't afford to buy dinner. That's the simple. This is what I've been telling rappers forever, like only like all them changed you're wearing. Just don't go nowhere when niggas need to eat dinner, Cause niggas should really get dinner off

On the flip side, I know, like you know, shout out the home and Beezy he's fa mingle with I'm gonna fuck get a lot fucking money. He'd be in the hood, but he'd be ready for everything.

They come with it too, But it's not even at that point. Why even wear that.

Because because people like to show off to people.

Which is fucked up.

Yeah it is.

That's people credit hip hop bro for a thousand things that I don't think fit like, Oh, you know.

Hip hop is appropriate. People on drugs. Niggas been on drugs since R and B music, since disco. Fuck you talking about niggas for sure gonna get high. Oh, violence is violence. Niggas been shooting each other since the beginning of the time. I had nothing to do with no fucking gangster rap records. The one thing that hip hop really did really bad will spread the culture of flossing. And you never take that shit to Beverly Hills. You wouldn't even there, But you won't take it to the projects.