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Conversations About Kanye

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Welcome back to No Ceilings. This week finds Glasses & Pete stuck in the category 6 hurricane that is Kanye West. With Donda 2 on the horizon, they discuss Kanye’s brilliance and role in hip hop. Follow NC on IG @GlassesLoc @Mister_RoseGold

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And now we have this on slaughter fucking like Kanye himself is fucking great, just greatness. But diet Kanye, all the diet Kanye, that's just sucks. You feel me like Kanye is not as strong enough drink to have diet versions of it. Just that beverage itself is fucking awesome, because but all this diet Kanye, bro, it's it's not that fucking good. It's not that Paul. Are you telling me that you're not as impressed maybe as other people are, that Kanye was able to bring us the same Chicago

that Eddie Winslow brought us five years earlier? Exactly? Okay, so now tell me what the funk had is that? Again? I have taken off and look, you don't you just how did you get the hat to? You don't know what had it is? I just saw it on the internet. I saw I was like, I could use another hat. And I just happen to see randomly like an ad and I was like, oh, those are kind of cool. Has to look at their website and I was like, oh,

grab that one. So you're like an impost buyer. I'm not an impulse buyer, but sometimes if I see something that I know that I do like that, I that I'm not gonna probably see again by accident, and I'll grab it. But I'm the purchase like that today too. Once you get I bought Kanye Steam Player for two hundred dollars. How's it working out for you so far? It hasn't came yet. It is, Oh, it's a hardware device.

It has to be a hardware device. They asked me for my address, so I would imagine for sure it's a hardware device. And it was two hundred dollars, so I would hope it's a hardware device. It better be a hard I would never thought that. That's that's very interesting. So what I would like to imagine it like is it's like, um, like a beach peel mixed with a physical Alexa dot the echo dot. I think it's something

like that. And the rumor is that it's called a steam player because you could play certain parts of the song, like you can ask for the high heights to be removed or the vocals to be removed, or the kicks to be removed. And if that's true, like that's gonna be dope at ship. But I just obviously Yeah, it is in my top five right now. I love you to death. I think he's I'm not on the genius train with everybody, but I think he's one of the

most extremely brilliant, you know, talents for sure of my lifetime. Um. But the fact that he was able to sell me on it, right. I read his post and his post was talking about how artists only get twelve percent of the revenue in today's business, and I just thought that was ill. Right, I'm like, damn, that's true. And he figured out a way to where people who funk with

him can have better access and there's another gadget. So I was like, fucking yeah, um no seilings g L my guy, Peter P. B Up in this sp is not um yeah, so and he he just has his way of doing this. I swear to God, I think, yeah, be meaning so well, right, I think he means so well. Um. But I think what happens is America happens to what

he does. And in America, the part of America that you love and the part of America hate, which is that extreme capitalist nature that I agree does drive innovation to some degree, which humanity should do a much better job of that. But you know, the the desire to earn drives innovation, right, So yeah, is one of the most innovative people I saw, you know, I've seen in my lifetime. And it would drive me crazy to believe

that this is awful money. Like, and I think I'm coming to the conclusion like I always knew Jay was a capitalist as a drug do for me any d boy as a capitalist? Uh? You know, I even found myself and and that's why I think I told you I regretted it. I found myself being a capitalist, you know what I mean, and then talking myself out of what actually was happening where I was like, oh well, my excuse for daling drugs would always be like, well they're gonna buy it from somebody, it might as well

be me, right, And that's the baseline generic. I used to pride myself and having top quality drugs. Like when I would sell PCP, I wouldn't cut with brake fluid or or from out to high you know, um embombing fluid. I would cut with and drogs and all ether what we call andy. Um. If I sold dope, it was gonna be top quality dope. I wasn't overcutting the dope, so I prided myself and having the best quality product. So that was my mid level excuse for the capitalism.

My my top level, advanced excuse was they were making a choice, right because I don't do any drugs. I don't drink coffee, alcohol, smoked marijuana. I always felt people were making a choice, just like I made a choice not to do it. And obviously that's horribly wrong, But at that time, you know, sixteen, fifteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, two year old glasses, twenty three year old glasses didn't know better because I didn't partaket, so I don't I

didn't understand chemical addiction and how it worked. I realized it around twenty four when a lady who was pregnant came to buy some drugs and my silly ass sold them tour But the whole rest of the afternoon I thought, like, there's no way somebody who's a sober mind, like conscious, like like a present whatever, harmed the child. So that kind of broke that whole lame excuse I was making

to myself. But in Kanye's case, right with the stem player being for two hundred dollars, that just seemed like so much, you know, the gals out of your fan for music, but hopefully the stem player makes it a much different and greater experience. And I'm one of those guys that support pretty much everything he does because he pushes the envelope for me. I heard he was streaming his movie like in the movie theater, like his album in the movie theater. You just went to the movie

theater and watched it at the movie theater. So I appreciate him making efforts to game, you know back, especially his situation where, just like mine, you own your music, but you know you own your music now when not as valuable because you don't have a label putting you know, twenty million dollars in marketing into it. Yet you're still

selling reasonable minding units. You know it's probably going to go to platinum, yet you're not really making the revenue from going go to platinum because you know, the streaming apps has changed the game. So I appreciate you for pushing through and trying to figure out how to get the revenue and economics back, because that's something we should all be trying to do as artists. Yeah, there's there's

um are glaring, diminishing returns curve, you know. I mean, if the twelve percent number is real for everybody, and it's not going to be real for everybody, it's approximate. It depends. It might be twelve percent for him, it might be a different percent for somebody else. For me, Yeah, I mean for me, it's going to be in the zero percent. But zero times zero equal zero anyway, so it doesn't even matter. But like you know, twelve percent

is essentially an eighth, you know, one of rate. So the question then becomes, can you, by yourself do the volume that you otherwise that they could propel you to do, you know, with with with that type of lever economically, he'll earn more then streaming apps will pay him. Yeah, he will because he can go platinum by himself. I don't know if he's gonna go platinum or whatever. Streaming he can put a lot of numbers down by himself. But yeah, with a stamp player that's two hundred dollars,

he's not gonna sell a million of old. That's just not gonna happen. It's likely. I mean, that would be great, that that would be unbelievable that I don't think Park go right, I think if you a sales you know, a hundred two hundred thousand stamp players, you know, you bring in uh four million bucks, that's more, you know than the streaming service. Actually forty million bucks. That's more than the streaming site is gonna pay him in the first place. He was he wasn't gonna get forty million

out of the streaming sites. But again, you sacrifice and what what what I think it happened is he'll sell a hundred to two hundred thousand staying players of his new album and maybe within a month or two the music will find itself on the streaming app so he'll get the back end of it. But I appreciate him always pushing through to try to take back more of his power. And I was talking to Charlotte Magne about

it earlier. While I don't think it benefits everybody in the music business as far as like his particular move, I think he inspires people to try and figure out, you know, he gives you a blueprint kind of like you're watching it live happened where it's like, maybe I'm not just in this position to where I have to take the ship from you know, the streaming apps. If you don't like what's going on there. What's funny to

me is right is on? Uh so for Kaye should have never married that bit right the latest song I had dropped right, A lot of companies didn't really want to show me love on it. They was like, I don't know, gee, because you know Kanye could take it wrong. You know that's YouTube that Spotify, Apple, you know title even lit. It was like, I don't know, it's Stem going to carry the song? Huh is Stem going to carry the song if Kanye has something to do with it?

I bet you we would. Kanye wouldn't stifle who I am as a theater because I'm sure you could recognize it it's about must die or anything else I do. My brilliance come from things that they've done. So I don't think for two seconds he wouldn't carry it if it was a possibility, No way he would. Car for Corporate didn't carry your song because they were concerned about Kanye, and then Kanye Streamer carried the song itself carried the song.

But there are were there some radio stations or something that we're kind of like a little bit like I don't want to bad mess up the relationship. No, Like, I think they were worried that Kanye would feel some kind of way if they actually put promotion behind the song. Okay, So they didn't want to give it playlisting or what you call editorial opportunities. Um, they didn't want to put it too far out there, and they felt Kanye wouldn't

you know, that would get negative lashbacks. And it's funny, the whole time, he has been preparing to cut them out of his music. So fu great. Well, I'm like, dog like, hip hop is in such a weird place, And as much as I love Kanye, I blame Kanye because we were at a time now where everything is entirely too sensitive and it's too worried and oh, you know, this person may not like this, so I don't want to get behind this person, or this record is too edgy.

Like we're in hip hop and niggas are telling me that my song Kanye should have never married that bitch is too edgy, and I'm like, damn, what if these people were in charge hip hop as a century. It's not the wild Western that used to be. And I'm saying because it ain't hip hop at all at all anymore. It's like really mainstream rap where everybody and it's weird because everybody wants to act like they're holding hand singing Kumbaya, but really all these chicken shit niggas is talking shit

about each other behind their back. And the only difference with me is I'm such like a outlier from another time to a degree that I'm just the last of one of those niggas. That's like, Yo, this is what it is in front of everybody. I gotta do the Pemps remix real quick. These ain't no hip hop records, these corporate rap tunes. It's definitely corporate rap son and it really is that serious, like where it like the most you know where I feel so much relief in

today's space of hip hop. Right is right? So Kanye gives me that like he's bucking. He's still bucking. He's a grown ass father right in a in a multi millionaire I mean old times over, and he's still bucking.

He's still trying to buck the system. Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's cool, but we're gonna do this, you know what, funck Nike, We're gonna do this, like like that is the part I am glad that he's here because you know his spirit and this ship is so important because he still represents a level of hip hop, a spirit of of of you know, fighting the system, fighting the power,

you know, bucking. But what relieved me the other day, right is I'm watching the Super Bowl halftime show right with Dre with Doc Snooper, And so seeing Snoop on TV right with this blue rag outfit is just great. Right, this is great tossing up to see and giving up his rap. But there's a part and I noticed they didn't cuss, right, And I'm like, they're worried about slang, but they're selling beer, right, But it was a part

where Dray says, still not loving police. And I'm not gonna lie to you, like I've talked to j a few times, you know over the years. You know what I mean. And sometimes I always wonder, like, man, is that sick ass nigger from compt is still in there? You know that that rebellious he was, He just kind of in the in the group. Not because if you yes,

you have to be there. Some of that has to be his attitude, like he there, There have to there has to be an attitude in there, like Dr Dre, Is it a fair question for me to ask, giving his personality across the tapestry of the other members. I mean, don't get me wrong, I think easy Ease personality was a lot more looming than everyone else's over it. But

I still think all of them niggas had attitudes. And for Dre to be closing in on sixty and that line comes up, still not loving Police and he said it, I was like, nigger is still in there? And he met about two back and I'm like, ah, man, this nigga wrote police in nine seven, and he worried about me telling the story while I'm not saying nobody. So it made me question, like, damn is that is that? Is that that young nigga with an attitude still in there? And when he was on that stage at Super Bowl

he said still not loving Police. I was like that ship, Like my heart would have been fractured if he didn't say it. So when he said it, it was like, yeah, like this ship ain't fell on deaf fears, Like like I still imagined Dres and making like the poonies come to his door. He trying to be cool, but really he wanted to shut the door in the face, Well,

that did happen? Like what two years ago? A year ago, some weird white guy called the police and they showed up at his house and he was like, I don't know this guy's talking about. They're like, just went back to the station. That's what I appreciate about. Even with this stamn ship, Like is it most likely gonna be worth two hundred dollars? I don't know what's worth two hundred dollars these days, very few things. Um, but I'll pay for that. I'll pay for him still bucking the system.

That's what I'm paying for. I'm paying for him sucking the system. I don't known fun what that stamp player do. Here's a go funding contributions. What you made? Huh you made a go fund to make contribution? Yeah, I ain't chipped them, just as long as Canadians don't keep your money. Yeah no, no, no no. When you buck the system for me, I gotta pay you if you if you go buck, I'm gonna pay you. That's all. That's all I asked from hip hop in modern time. Buck dog

fuck you let me kick. I don't just getting this ship and try to get it drinking cold and and all that ship is cool and that mainstream rap. No, no disrespect to them, brothers, but feel me like that ship ain't bucking and nothing. They weren't top ten several episodes ago. Huh, they didn't make my top ten several episodes ago. I'm just saying that ship too nice. That's why I wasn't in my top ten. That's why I pay for their music. You gotta buck for me, you

gotta buck the system. And so for him to constantly buck the system, that's what I paid for. That's what it was worth. So do I feel like I got beat? Hell? No, it It's what makes hip hop great. That's what it's all about. Yeah, I'm not that at the vetter he can pull it off. I mean, even if it if it's a hardware advice, I mean, it never even crossed my mind that that could that that could even have. I'm like, it's a digital portal, like like stream yark,

you know, like what we're on. You know, I thought would be something like that, um an app that could cost a fortune in r indeed to create or to purchase, you know. I mean, I'm sure you would figure out a way to create the right value for it. I don't think for two seconds it's not gonna be what it's supposed to be. Yeah, but but he might need to sell an awful lot. Probably not. It's probably made somewhere in Asia by somebody getting paid thirteen cents an hour. Yeah,

that's where it's made. I'm talking about it when where it was created the technology, and they was paying thirteen Since an hour or two might have cost eighteen cents to build, it always is eighteen cents to build, to build, yeah, to to recreate, not to create, to create, not to create. No, no, no, no no. If there was, trust me, i'd i'd be doing that right now as we speak. I can't even get a a decentralized app done to my specifications for

under twenty case. Yeah, but that's because again, right what you do is limited. That's limited. That doesn't even exist yet we know about it. Maybe maybe he just stumbled upon some guy had this thing. Hey, I got this cool thing and nobody wants it. He was like, I'll grab it. Maybe he was ready made, and I don't think he. I think they came to and he made a deal, some kind of special deal with him. They

probably came to M was like, yeah, man, we got this. Well, if that's the case, then he's really I don't need it unless they gave him a bunch of money up front. And Yeah, the thing about Yeah is that is a corporate deal. It's different, a different corporate That's my point. Is always gonna be some corporate thing, That's what I say, even when Yeah is trying not to, he's gonna do something that's super corporate. Eve, Yeah, super capitalistic. It's always

gonna be that. Like he wanted to make these shoes that were like fair price and they weren't that much material, yet they end up costing more than every fucking pair of tennis shoes. He's he's the kind of guy who's gonna like, oh man, there's hand full characters like this stuff thinking of it, like various comedy movies over the years. But he's like the kind of guy who, like, I'm a rebel, all repel right now, I don't go seventy

six and sixty five watching me. Like, to some degree, I guess that's not He's not gonna get too far like called George Bush a bitch, Like I can see if he was gonna get on TV, and like George Bush is a bitch ass nigger. Like, no, he's going to like, he's going to give you the obvious truth that nobody else is said. George Bush doesn't like black people. That's that's that's Kanye's version of hip hop. Glasses Malone version of hip hop is, man, fuck George Bush, pitch

ass nigger. Yeah, that's like a hundred and sixty five three Yeah. Me calling George Bush a bitch ass nigger on television is like a hundred and fifty miles per hour.

But that's the kind of hip hop I mate, But I think, and that's what I said, Like, I like, just like I'm grateful for Kanye's contribution to hip hop, I also loathed as well, because I know he's the reason why this hundred and fifty miles people think I'm crazy, even though hip hop came from doing a hundred and fifty miles in in in the sixty five mile Prower Freeway, you know, on that lane, that's where it came from.

But the standards have been lowered to where if Kendrick Lamar gets on the song, he's like, yeah, I'm trying to compete and be better than all of the rappers of today's time. It's the end of the world, and they all don't want to mess with him no more and be his friend because they're not used to that type of someone being that apparent and competitive. This is the area of fifth place trophies for sure. I mean, Kanye is the rapper of you see, he's a child

of people with retire pensions. You know, his his his his, the pensions rapper, I would say, now you mean or overall overall the funniest it bro is right. Kanye's album, right, the first album, Like when I first heard Kanye, I just understood it was great music. I never looked at it as a representation of like real hip hop life, like not hip hop life, because hip hop, the way I've took it in is very much street urban culture, right,

very much an urban corner street thing. Right. So, like the depth of kanye struggle on the first album was him dropping out of college, right and getting accused of stealing pants by his boss. And I was like, I was listening to my first album, and my first album is uh, I'm talking about facing life in prison and doing facing ten years and his is like, yeah, they almost called me stealing pants. My boss thought I was still in pants and he was gonna fire me, and

I was like, huh. So I always felt it was like seventy miles per hour in the city five for hour Lane. So when it first came out, I was always just listening to the music. I didn't really connect with the struggle of Kanye West. It was like, that's a joke to me. But I thought he was great at sampling. I thought he placed words really well. I thought he carried melody well, he used all the voices perfectly. He might have a bit too many skits on the first record, but it was as great as it could so.

But in two thousand and four, that was cool, right because it was like, all, like I had fifty cents in two thousand and three, right, so I still had this element of somebody surviving, you know, the trauma and and representing the people that don't have a voice. Where you have a fifty cent and then Yeake comes. It

was cool balanced. But fast forward in the two thousand and twenty two and it's like Drake J. Cole, Uh, Kanye, It's like, yeah, this ain't scary at all, Like, yeah, it's I had one time I went uh for like a semester at Orange Coast College Junior College down in Coasta, Mesa. And I took this jazz history class and that was one of the coolest classes I've ever taken. And it was actually taught by um John Coltrane's bass player Art Davis.

And the guy's like a super savant. He's like one of the most renowned jazz bass players of all time. He was telling his life story like one day, like kind of in passing. He was like, you know, jazz came from kind of like from the mud, you know, like you could say it starts to just people say it started in the order, so some people say it started in New York or whatever it started was it was it was the people's creation off of a blank slate.

It wasn't something you could learn. It was something that you just had to make. And he he said, he was already in the industry and doing well and got offered to go to Juilliard School of Music, and everybody was trying to come up with a new sound, learn being or creative pushed the albums I'm gonna go to Jewelrard, I'm gonna learn more about music, and I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna have an even more unique sound

or whatever. And he said one of the guys that he recorded with was like, when you go to Juilliard, they're gonna teach you structure. They're gonna teach you how not to be creative. They're gonna teach you how to do what other people tell you to do. Jazz is all about doing what nobody else has ever done, so don't lose that. And he never lost it. And he was a great I mean, he was on the Love Supreme album that John Coltrane did after the Facts People,

so he stayed great. But Kaye always to me felt like the Juilliard School of Music's hip hop to some degree a little bit a savant like talent creative wise, but it seemed like he like learned how to be that more than he just kind of to do it in a small sense. You know what I'm saying is like the spirit of it. I've had this for years, Like this is not obviously Webster's idea of the dictionary, But the way I see genius and brilliance is different.

Like I see genius as this revolutionary, rarely understood thing happening in real time right, Mozart probably wasn't selling out all the concerts and ship like you know, it's it's a very unique and pretty much always under appreciated thing. Um, I look at Kanye West as extremely brilliant. Kanye West is the best at taking things that's existed and making them more efficient for whatever is going on at that time. Like he could take three or four things and put

them together and make something perfect for today's time. And to me, that's more of a sign of brilliance right than genius. But again, that's just how I see it. So I guess I'm ever had to judge Kanye like, oh, is he a genius versus he's absolutely brilliant. You know, he knows how to put all this ship together and it's not just natural. I agree, Like he's very schooled at what we do. You could tell he studied everything

that's going on. And really, you know, there's the art of there's the art of hip hop, and then there's the science of music. Excuse me, the science of records. The art of hip hop and the science of records. Right, records are very scientific, like making a jingle for a commercial, you know, the Jolly Green Giants, so that's the thing. So Kanye in two thousand four was fantastic for me because you know, I have so much of the culture right,

so much stuff to listen to. I can listen to the streets in New York with I can listen to the streets of I can listen to the streets of a Hand with t I, I could listen to the streets of l A. Obviously with everybody. For the most part, it Kanye provided something with such a scientific measure that it made it enjoyable for me. It didn't have to be you know what hip hop was culturally like where it was like from this level of no poverty in this street, edge and edge to it, right, it didn't

need an edge to it. It could just be actually really well done and good and jam and that's what. Yeah, he was what college drop out. But like I said, fast forward in two thousand twenty two because the game started to shape that way. Now that ship is fucking

annoying as fuck. But ya still not yea. But all his offsprings, like the depth the depth of his offsprings is just boring in Lane to me, Like it's like you know what I mean, Like again, we're in the time, Like I said, we're in a time where they're calling skater closed streetwear. Like I was having a conversation with my partner Cast, and Cast was trying to tell me. He was like, well, you know, there's no real definition of a street nigga or a real nigga. And I'm like,

that's not true. Like a street nigga was a criminal from our element right, A gang a gangster is a group of niggas, a group of street niggas that aligned themselves together. A street nigga is somebody willing to commit a crime to advance their agenda. Yes, streets not just asphalt.

And and what happened is mainstream and even and even the successful upper scale of Black people got ahold of those words and made real nigga anybody that's doing something that's honest or like, a real nigga is somebody who take care of their kids. It's a real father, a real nigga. Somebody who gonna put in the eight hours of work. No, that's a real good employee. These terms have,

you know, representation. The reason that people created the term real nigga and all these different concepts is they didn't have positive reinforcements for themselves to encourage them of trying to overcome what they was going through. So then they started making these dope terminologies that became great to listen to what I'm saying, and it made people feel proud

of their circumstances. It wasn't for feeling doctor John Thompson to be like, yeah, did a surgery today, real nigga ship And I do think yea is a part of that transition and end. You know that era of where now you have Drake talking about he's sliding on enemies and he hit somebody's block up and they wasn't outside, and it's like, you know, this is cool, This Nick

is not hitting nobody's block. Brother, this nigga, don't you need pe would need a fucking you need to blockings with a jackhammer because there's a pothole that needs to be corrected. But I'm just saying it out. I'm just saying like, now we're in that era and again it started off with a rapper who's the depth of his struggle was like his job accusing him, his manager accusing

him was still in pants. Well, let me ask you this, Like the way I kind of see Kanye, and you can see it kind of in the in just Chicago is in nutshell. You think Chicago hip hop, Chicago rap. There's even songs where are Kelly has that sounds like there's a certain Chicago sound, like the Twisted Door Didos guys like literally like there's a sound there. You know

that sounds like Chicago doesn't have that. Kanye is the first artist of hip hop two point oh who grew up listening to hip hop and other people grew up listening to something else and made hip hop. And he grew up listening to hip hop and made his music. You Feel Me and Drake's another two points I don't understand. I can relate, I could relate. I think that's part

true in part not true. I agree in the sense that Kanye is definitely part of that generation who grew up influenced to rapp by other rappers versus snooping them. They only had a handful of rappers. But really his influences Ron Banks or I mean somebody like that from the Dramatics. But I do think Kanye has a very

Chicago sound. I mean, I think early on in his career you heard him doing what he needed to do like what I call laying the ball up, where you hear the music and you just lay it up, you know what it takes to get this ship through, and he get it like that. But I think it's Kanye started going. You start hearing him employ the melodies a lot more, start hearing more to R and B into his music, and I think it really all the Chicago

came out of him. But again back to the point of hip hop right where it's like where it's like it's supposed to represent a community of people that doesn't have representation. And I don't think Kanye is like the voice of that. I think there's a lot of Kanye's that's well represented throughout you know, the last fifty years, that version of black people in America. M you know what I'm saying, That version is on television like before they would show the character, like the character that is

hip hop is mad Dog from Good Times. There's only one or two episodes of mad Dog from Good Times. You know what. J J joins his gang and then j J just becomes a buster and don't want to get out, and then Mad Dog shoot j J in front of his daddy, and then you get to hear only this much of Mad Dog story where he's talking about his father abandoning him and him making sure that he don't need for nothing else. So that was the

depth of our representation. You know that when you come from this street life, you know, outside of today, it was a blaxploitation film like The Mac, and that was not our life. 's life has been represented pretty well. That type of Black American person is represented Kanye. White women fear me that that understands the struggle, but you know, again, it's just different. I don't I don't think. I don't

think he's underrepresented. He and now we have this on slaughter fucking like Kanye himself is fucking great, just greatness. But diet Kanye, all the diet Kanye, that's just sucks. You feel me like Kanye is not as strong enough drink to have diet versions of it. Just that beverage itself is fucking awesome, because but all this diet Kanye, bro,

it's not that fucking good. It's not that good. Paul, Are you telling me that you're not as impressed, maybe as other people are, that Kanye was able to bring us the same Chicago that Eddie Winslow brought us five years earlier, exactly, fucking Eddie Winslow. Here's the Eddie Winslow of Chicago hip hop, and then he because no, he's fucking Eddie Winslow like that character has always been represented

in mainstream America for thirty years before Kanye existed. There is no like Mad Dog got three minutes of camera time. I've watched twenty years of Eddie Winslow. Yeah that was just one version. It was all it was. Nigga Willis was fucking Eddie Winslow. Fucking Kanye's Willis film me like fun, I've seen it and it's dope because Kanye is so scientifically great at it. He's so correct, and he here Stefan or cow No, no, no, he's Eddie Winslow. Yeah, yes he is. But that but that's my point where

I feel like the representation right, it's over. It's been represented, and that's not what hip hop gave a voice to the people you didn't know existed. You didn't see it ll COOJ before you saw LLL COUJ. You didn't see a Snoop Dog. You know, Rocket was in colors for a grand total of ten minutes Rockets shot four people in his ten minutes on on cameraton. You can't be mad at the guy for being efficient. I'm not mad.

I think it's great. But I'm saying that's what made Snoop so hip hop because you got to see Rocket, right, A full version of Colors with Rocket as the lead character. That's what Snoop Dog represents. So as far as Yea, I love you because I think he's one of the greatest scientists are culture has ever had when it comes to hip hop. But again, the diet Kanye's should just fuck this ship up because now it's swamped where it's just fucking guet Kanye ever, and you know, Kanye is

already like Hawaiian punch bro. Like hip hop used to have pepsi and coke and spriting seven and seven up ship that would burn your throat when you would drink it, but it'd be so sweet and you're like, Yo, this is flavor. And then this nigga came and he's like Ticky Punch and tick Punch is good, feel me, But god damn man, like the knockoff Ticky Punches is not cool, bro. True, that's true. I just don't know, but I'm grateful for Kanye wanting to buck. None of the die Kanye's buck.

None of it died Kanye's but none of them buck. Easy, simple, no problem, blah blah blah. You know, so like Drake doesn't buck. Drake don't buck at all. But Drake is not even American. So I only want you know a bucking is an American than true. I might be wrong with that, but I can hold onto that I didn't actually speaking of not being willing to buck, I didn't see any footage of Drake at the Freedom convoy in Ottawa.

Where were you, Drake? Where were you? I didn't see you out there representing the standing up against the man. I didn't see you what Ottawa Drake without there representing. He was not there keeping it real. But now, and that's what I paid two hundred dollars for it. Just like your hat when your hat came and he was like yo um, when he was like yo, I've seen this hat. I want to be a part of whatever this hat is. I like it, fear me whatever it is,

if it caught your attention. That's how it was when I seen Kanye stem player today. It's like damn, he was talking about the stream. I'm like, this crazy motherfucker. It's still bucking system. He's still bucking at it, and like, yeah, I'm gonna do what I want to do. That's why. That's why that nigga is in my top five. It's it's not quite it's not quite Snoop Dogg culturally. Feel me like, it's not the renaissance in culture that Snoop

Dogg is. But he's consistently trying to buck almost twenty years in his career and he's still bucking the system. So I don't regret, you know, putting him in my top five and in fucking with him, whether I listen to the album or not. I pay for him to be the nigga he is. That's why I support him. I want him to be the nigga he is. I don't want him. People keep saying I want old Kanye. I don't even like that nigga. I didn't like old Kanye.

I liked old Kanye's music. Kanye. That nigga was Eddie Winslow. Like Eddie Winslow was the least entertaining character in fucking family matters. So I don't didn't get every by real gangsters though. Huh. He didn't get jumped in the diner and by real gangsters though, yes, because that's what happened to Nigga's like, yeah, if you was in a real diner, niggas with bashing fill me, they'll beat him up. But we music at that time, you know, was so correct

and so jamming. I could funk with it. Suck him. The music was jamming. But now the nigga he is now, he's him unapologetically like to me. Back then, he was more an apologist for who he was. He didn't really want to say too much. He wanted to rub people the wrong way. This yea don't give a fuck. Kim could be whatever she is, and he like, I want this bitch back. He don't care what Glasses Malone things. He don't care caturally that the West Coast is said,

you can't turn the hole into a housewife. He liked whatever niggas is saying, fuck y'all, I want my bits back. Yeah, it's like, well, I got this house and this housewife for this house already bought the house. Like he wants to fight Pete. He's like, yo, He's like if I catch Pete, I'm gonna squat him up. He put a picture cause of Melvin from Baby Boy and and Jodi and himself. I was like, this is my nigger. He that guy, that other Pete. It's like he's he's just

living my life. What's what's the black ass angry at him? All over the internet for fun with their bitches. That's every time I go online, I see some guys holding up a piece of paper, Piste off and fun Pete. I'm like, this is just I'm like, you like that, but it's not got a sister. True, this is a black man, sure so, but d that's funny and Pete. And Pete is such a you know, down the earth kind of person where you like, as much as I love you, I don't hate Pete. Like I'm not in

there ship. I don't know the guy from Adams. Pete is such a regular dude that you'll be looking and he's traditional white person. Will you be looking at him? He do some half gay ship, half corny ship you liked? Is just Pete Davison, this white person. Yeah, And I thought it was funny, Like, well didn't can you put the screen shot up of him saying like, hey, you know, I don't want to overstep the boundaries on you know, the kids and all that kind of stuff, and hopefully

we could be cool with it. Like it was very like borderline gentleman l and he's like this guy like this bitch as me. And you know Pete owner too, why she loved because this is a white lady. This is my point, like it's his wife. So it's only so much I can say. I pretty much said what I had to say about it. Bro leave it alone. I mean, in my mind, find your sister, save one of our sisters. They need to be saved. If you want to save somebody. I disagree because I'm single, so

don't take another one off the market. Just bad mathematics for me. Whatever. Pe, you ain't gonna marry nobody. Yeah, but I'd like to know I could happen for a weekend if fees off the market. I can't happen more than enough. It's a whole country for the niggas, whole country, for the whole country, for the sisters, the whole country, and they and they better looking than mostly everybody. You gotta expand your horizons if you're looking for the sisters.

That's why I moved to Miami. No no, no, no no no no, Like we need to move to South Africa. That's a little far. I have a girl South Africa. She's coming to Miami. I bet you do. She's come to I bet you so. The point I'm saying is so. The point I'm saying is we we It's just um to use that person for me. He's that person that that's still their hip hop. He started off to me very hip hop if he you know, don't let me run.

The music is very much correct and it's inspired by some of the greatest minds Dela, Dre he Fan, He's a great science to yay. It's unbelievable, are like. He's the only nigga doing change us bro like. He's change ups and beaches just borderline like early Dre like, but just modern like. He's just real. He's unbelievably brilliant. Right. But what it is I like about him is he's still a nigger. He's still bucking like he like, Yo, You're not going to be able to hold me no

matter what you do. He's still bucking, and I need that in my hip hop. I got a question for you. Yeah, it's almost a little bit of a juxtaposition, like to a degree, well more like later Snoop than earlier Snoop, but like Sloop really did all his bucking on the music, where Kanye doesn't do really any of it done. The music is just different. But the way he goes like not what he says, but the way he says it may be delivering the content or like Snoop beside I'll

go nice television show with Martha Stewart. Yeah, it's like I want to undercut the entire music industry. So this is a comparison. This is why I say Snoop is the greatest rapper ever. Who the fuck can go on national television in front of two hundred million American homes right and literally wear a blue bandanna jumpsuit and chunk up seas and say yeah because crip that's a complete

cultural renaissance in itself. Like he has changed the face of cripping permanently to where like America exist, Like he's with Martha Stewart's cousin, Martha Stewart Bro. He's like, yeah, cause I tell you, Martha, Cus you need to do I was like this smother of fucking is it in Martha Gangster? She really did fed time. Martha is a real loop. Yeah. I think Martha squad un the red Niggers.

Did Martha get court on when she was on the inside, probably, and she didn't tell and it was somebody she could have told on. Yeah, she just just kept in. Did he a little time soldiers that ship off? Martha more hip hop then Kanye West. No, she She's more hip hop than a lot of diet Kanye West, like the aftermarket rappers of Kanye West, the products. Kanye West himself

is a fucking revolution period. Now it may be a personal revolution, but it is a It's that's hurricane, bro, That's a fucking what they call it, uh, category six. He's a category six in life. Suck the music in life. He's a category six. Hey, there was a thing online that showed him dressed up like bushes like a sniper and the driveway. Was that real? Hope that it looked like what I had seen? It was like surveillance imagery instaid, like Kanye West hiding out in the bushes in front

of the Kim's house. But he was dressed like the bushes, like the bushes were over here, and he was like six ft over. He wasn't even next to the bushes. He was the bushes. Yeah, bro, I just needed to be on take when you and Pete finding squabble, I just needed to be on tape. They should do that

on the same card. And that one should be on the street in front of the house, as long as you can get on the ring the ring doorbell you live across the street, Pete when he's spending the night over there, Kim how because he needs to just pull over there, get a couple of his boys, a couple of his look the partners, you know, all the white people. It's just reeks of like a O. J. L. Colling's remix there. No, they need to either walk in the backyard with his goons and yagon and just get a

fair one. Dude, Kannation, stop calling him Pete and start calling him Ron Goldman. You know that would be fun. He started calling Ron, that would be the coldest ship ever. I'd start calling him Ron Goldman. In fact, I'm gonna start calling him Ron Goldman. I don't go ship from now on. If you're hearing about him from me. I'm keeping the integrity of my name. I ain't no other Pete but Pete. I'm Pete. That guy that's Ron Goldman

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