Conversations About Integration

it because where you know, yeah, stacking the fence. You feel me. I'll be like, wait, what so Pete just flew in town. Yeah, from Florida, Florida. It's the first time I felt cold there and over a year. That's why they get the worst hurricane. I spoiled by the weather, So the hurricanes and earthquake when it's like that, I

will happily. I would trade being in the middle of a hurricane over walking to the car in like thirty eight degree weather in an hour, all day long, all the long, all day love um category one, category one. So what's the deal you got this crazy ass thing? I don't quite know what that is? But something burner made. That's probably bad. Yeah, that was excellent. It's forbidden fruits that ship all purply and ship I saw it, look all purply purple wheels. It's nice. It's nice. You scared gold?

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my gosh, um. It tastes like some kind of citrus. M he tastes the oranges in there. Citrus is oranges and when it is to be a little bit of grapefruit. Oh but it's sweet, but you do taste of citrus sweet. It tastes very clean and very like do they drop orange or something to do that? How do they get the citrusy flavor? This is nice? What shout out to the grower. Some strange just come through with more of a citrusy tone, like O gs have a citrusy tone.

Just genetics, I guess all genetics and that's called what again, forbidden fruit? Oh yeah, forbidden fruit need to be hot because conversation serious. We are. Don't worry, We're freakinging high. Okay, So I had a sweet tea on the way in Sweet had a soda. Fucking shuda. Um. So what's been on my mind is why the fuck gosh okay, let me back down. Thank you, thank you, because you are day. You gotta come like that's serious. That's how I thought,

And I'm frustrated. Um pete. Why did we integrate? Why did What was the push for integration? And you this is right up your ali, this is something we would normally talk about. I think that in the time, the push for integration was the fact that you had a hamstrung portion of the economy that, to expedite growth, needed to integrate with with with a faster moving, more robust

sector of the population's economy. That makes sense. The only problem with it is it allows you to take certain people to that economy because you still have have those same fund up water fonts. But my whole complain about it is right. If you don't take away the people that can integrate into this economy, they are forced to build their own society for sure. And and that was happening. There was a pretty good vertical trajectory of growth in

the first half of the twentieth century. That I don't there's different opinions as to how, how and why that flattened out. Um some people. I don't think that integration really damaged that so much as all the all the goings on that happened with it from like all the social programs hitting at once and impacts that had three, four or five dominoes away from you know, ground zero. That's fair. What do you think about integration? But do you know what integration is? Rich do? But I do

not understand. And I didn't understand what. No, I didn't understand it. That was really what the fund is Pete talking about. I'm thinking prison integration, So maybe I have missed. It wasn't prison integration. No, go ahead, Pete, give it to them in and everyday term. It just means white people. Let me give it to you the way I would give it to you. White people had the majority of

the economy, so people wanted to integrate. Right, You integrate because you want everybody else to grow their own economy as well. So you put them where the economy is booming, so you shift them over here. That's integration. Integration is the picture of Jerry Jones standing at the door and the black kids is trying to get into high school, and the kids is stopping them. They integrating a high school.

Red Lining is when they would stop certain black people or people that were undesirable at that time to white people from moving into their neighborhoods and say, okay, we're not going to let them move into this neighborhood or something. That's so, then you integrate neighborhoods. You start bringing black folks into already existing powerful economy. Okay. And so you're saying that you don't think that there should have been integration. It's a horrible idea. So it's only a good idea

to shut people up. It's a horrible idea for a mass community because what happens is you start taking one person, right, one successful person, and then you move them over here with these folks and they're not forced to build for their own social group as well, not just they're like somehow we try, we really want to believe. Well, I think me and PD agree with that there are economy groups. I mean, I do think there's a bit of bigotry at even at that well, but most for the most part,

it's it's more like classism. Yeah, Like, you know, there was a lot of weird politics. I was listened to a podcast the other day about the history of the Central Valley and how like the Oklahoma diasporaate, which is a very sophisticated way of saying, a bunch of poor, white trash people from Oklahoma moving into the Central Valley and everybody hated him. Like the Mexicans who lived there

didn't like them. The white people have been farming there for didn't like them, and they just kind of like tried to exclude them out of every possible area of commerce that they could. They didn't want to deal with them. So and you know, they didn't have high levels of education, they were kind of roughnecks, whatever the hell, so just

kind of were different. So it makes sense, right, So these conversations make sense, right, you fun with sports d It's why, like I'm said where a Dion Sanders right where he's He made a lot of promises like I'm not one of the people that's on Dion Dion May a lot of promises. Came in, used a press release and a press conference to announce he was coming to be the savior of h b c Us. That was what he said. That's what he said. It's not what I said, It's not what I think. This is what

he said. So he came in on like the cloud, like Jesus like. And then he actually referenced God, God sent me to save HBCUs, not even j as you, not even just Jackson State. He said, h b c Us, I'm God sent me to save him. And fast forward three years later, he takes a job that pays shot him though silly ten times, failed fourteen times the money Colorado.

So the community is mad, right or what not? The community that the dits sport is upset right, the whole diaspard because he said what he said out of his mouth, So people are holding him to that. Now, was it a realistic thing when he said it? Dobbly not. It would require some serious, serious serious like an industrial mind. You would have to have a really serious plan, like not even intellect at that point. You would need to really be prepared for that type of task. It's not impossible,

it's just tough. So I get why he took the next move, and it probably was always to make the next move. But the problem is he sold everybody on this idea of like, hey, I'm going back to save black people. That's what it translates to. So when black people are disappointed, everybody upset. Why is a man dean? He took a better job to bear himself, bitch that nigga met rich forever and he didn't go to an HBC out of high school himself as a player. No,

mhm you So I understand that. So I do understand why the diaspor is upset of him because of what he said out of his mouth. Now, there are some people that just feel a certain way, but most people know that he said so many things, and that's why we started rooting for him and paying attention to him in the first place. So it's when you actually monetize the movement, and that's what he did. He marketed the

movement for a personal game. I'm not saying he didn't have any effect I'm sure there's some good things that happened over those two or three years, but because of what he said out of his mouth, motherfucker's is disappointed. They want to hold him accountable, like what happening, like what's up? You know? In his defense, he lost money on that, but but but it was never he never mentioned money when Guy sent him. He did say God sent here to get He lost his you know, CBS contract.

He wasn't on you know, NFL today and all that stuff all the time. He would would probably paid him, honestly, more than the coaching job. So he took an l financially to go do that, and it did do very well for Jackson States, visibility, whatever else. It's a challenging thing. If he had probably stayed two more years to where so a couple of really good recruits he got could go to the NFL, you have concept that would have probably been that he could have turned the corner there.

The issue is, if you're gonna have some criticism about Dion, you have to have criticisms about all the black blue chip players that go to not HBCU schools, because the five that chose to go play for Dion, they weren't choosing to go to an HBC. They were choosing to play for Dion and all the other teams in his league got none of those guys. But but this is my thing, right, and this is why you can't blame

the blame. You can't. I wouldn't blame what I'm saying this, this this separation is they didn't come in with that mentality. They came in to play for Prime. Deon Sanders is prime time coach Prime. They came in to play for coach Prime. Prime came in because God sent him to save the h b c U s eight months. So the new job that he got, because I did see where he got a new coach. Whereas so it's like one black like the football film, he was like, Oh, that's a lot of black people that need this big

old picture. You definitely had the negative. So people are furious, you know what what I'm saying. And it just made me think, like I think about that situation, um and and I'm wanted a few people. I don't complain to Pete a lot because Pete is white, right, So I don't want to just slander black people to Pete because Pete already hear enough black people slander. I'm sure no matter you know, whatever's going on as white present, I'm sure he's heard

black people slander. But my my issue is that's why I hate integration, because I have a hard criticism for successful Black people are wealthy elite, which I don't believe more black people wealthy. This is a whole another story. This is a whole another story. But they got something. Okay, if they were forced, like if they wasn't complaining about how messed up our water found was and how nice the white folk water found was and said, Okay, well

we're just gonna make our water foun nice. So if let's say, if we were still on the water found system in two thousand two, and jay Z looking at the white person water found, he like, man, I don't want to drink out this water found for that the black colorful water found it looked crazy. Jay Z has the kind of money, he has the kind of money where he could put a new water fountain there. So then when he's drinking his water, he's drinking out the

correct fountain. But everybody else that looked like him, may come from his issues, get to drink out of nice and water Fountain. If if you decide like, hey, I'm going to upbuild it. I can't get into I can't get into Beverly Hills. They're not letting me over there. They're not letting me in Orange County. They're not letting me a newport. So I gotta make paradise right here. Yeah. I think if you were to look at it as countries not integrating at all, looks like the Soviet Union.

It's an economic challenge integrating but not but but maintaining like a pretty rigid autonomy over your entity. That that's China, you know, because China, before they integrated, they were starting you gotta use regular work because we're like, what are you talking about. I know China's like, um, I don't know. If it's like China got like like when communists China and Mao Sate Tongue took it over, they were only like they only dealt with China. They didn't deal with

anybody else. So they don't do business with anybody else everything. So he's saying that they stayed to themselves. They didn't give any business to anybody else. That's how they build the economy based off of doing work for the world only through them. And then when they be now so once they got all the world's patents and all the world's ideas, which is crazy, they will start building everything for the whole world. That's how they dug themselves out

of the poorhouse. Give us your jobs. We're building for cheap We have put all our people to work. Yeah there's a cheap job. But our people didn't have no work at first. So now in Mexico, now start starting to get better. So people that didn't have any working, and you know, you start thinking third world looks like third world country, like super poor countries. They said, hey, man, send us all your work. We'll building at pennies on the dollar. Pennies on the dollar, and when you have

nothing is good fucking money. And they created this system set up where the government takes care of people. Hey, we're gonna take care of you. You just work. And the singular most impactful Jim Crow law in economics senses that prevented that model from happening is the one that is mentioned the least by people ever, and that's the minimum wage law, which was implemented purely to prevent that

from taking place. In the South. Mm hmmm, So what he's saying is he's saying the problem with this working. So the reason all of the high dollar people that was building everything Americans start taking their business other places is because the federal government or different states started raising their minimum ways, so ship that you would get done for cheap, you have to pay more money. So then

business owners had to start outsourcing. Well, there was a period of time when in the South, black unemployment was lowered and white unemployment because you can pay them less because they came from the plantation. And then they have implemented that hard line now because now you need because now you need to choose based off of who you relate to, who looks like you, who who you think is your family. Because that's what I really believe in what looks like racism is more or less pretty much.

There's no there's no economic incentive to hire people that don't you know what means? That makes sense? All right, all right, gotta fund up makes his I know you look at like the stick class smoking fucking weed. So it's like if we're doing like for the project right for the ops, like right, we send it out to a different country and they do all the labor for sense on the dollars? So what sense on the dollars?

And we over here. It's funny because I hear a lot of people in America complaining about what we are they building shoes in China for change, like people talking ship. You hear people say that what is lebrons think about them paying the low wages in China for shoes. Bitch, that ain't a low wage in China. Oh yeah, that is. No, it's not a low wage in China because you can live on it. No, That's why I like in the at the Apple thing at the country that the company

that's else was for Apple. They've been trying to escape. They're jumping out of windows and running out and trying to get the hell out of there. And they're there, kept on grounds and they just work then till they freaking die. But you live. That's how it works. That's the exchange. The exchange is I'll give you a job as a government and a place to live. This is not available, so the model we we can be upset that the model hasn't changed today, because that's that's a complaint,

right is the model hasn't changed today in China. But what if I want China was ship. Poor motherfucker's was homeless, and they was having famine famine like like more like like mass death because of famine sweeping the nation. They have figured out a way to feed all of their people everybody. So, yeah, you might live eighty years and work your ass off and gonna die, but you live in somewhere And we really, in theory, have the same thing a little different. So do they have a choice.

So they're just so they have to work there if you want to have a place to live. They are heavily indentured every like. So there's no like, Okay, I'm not working there. It's not you. I mean you could not work. No, you aren't allowed to leave the grounds. What happens if you do? You don't, they'll they'll track you down and drag you. Yeah, that sounds like some slavery ship to me. I mean, I think from a Western way, we look at a lot of things different, and I think we like to see ourselves as a

better place. And I understand why, because to some degree we do have different things, but I'm not quite sure they're better. We try to prolong people's life with the bare minimums here. Yeah, yeah, I mean, um, let's say you didn't have to work there, where would you live? If I was in China with you for short way, you could be They'll pay you a lot of money because you can teach English. So it's different. They looking for people that teach English. They gotta plan mm hmm.

So but that's my point. So if you're coming from like uh, if you're coming from a third world situation where poverty is crazy like that, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's different. It's different as hell. So I'm not one of the few they'd be like, what China is this? I'm like, well, they figured out a way to get their people out of part I wish I can get most black people into a place to where they can live and own the house and ship. Now Chi, I'm

not saying China's happening. I'm saying that would be a cool goal. I think we had the right idea when the industrialization when not when the industrialization, when industrial era happened, I think we was on the right track. We had a really solid thing going on. Yeah, I mean, people could own a home, you could work, but again people complaining and then But I think that was the best

that's the era. I think about what Trump says, Let's make America great, that's what he's talking about that eraor what so what when year is that last? With late eighteen to the to the early mentor I think it would acculmodated in the nineteen twenties, Yeah, where Americans had jobs and then as they started to raise minimum ways, people are like okay, you know what we can Yeah, and probably through like the fifties, also like post World

War two, there was a lot of growth. Oh yeah, post because they went bad, like the cars because we have it was a lot of people driving, like more like Japanese or like not in the fifties now like now because you have to buy cheap Okay, it's like Walmart is popping because don't nobody got no money, so they have the cheapest prices. So but you need somebody with cheap prices because nobody got no money. So almost like a funked up a circle that just keeps happening,

like that joint y'all got going. Y'all been high, but y'all just keep going. Should just put it out probably half about four minutes agog to keep going. Yeah, about ten hours, y'all have five hours 'all was done for me. So yeah, that's that's that's the vicious circle that's happening. Like you need it. We love the cheap price at Walmart. But we love the cheap price at Walmart because don't nobody got no money. The people got money, don't give

two funks. They're not shopping at Walmart. They're going to Target. So that's the thing. The people who really can really appreciate to say means would not even shop there. Nobody's gonna fucking Walmart. So back to the point, Pete, it could look like USS or it could look like that, but I think it has a chance to even look different because if people are forced to build their own communities,

force you that's the thing I really think. And this is we're telling you this, your white guy, but my nigga, you have to force the black elite to do better by black people, because no matter how you look at it, it's going to be a space where it's like, why didn't you could do it too? That's not true. Um, we've waited on the government for a long time to do what we feel is right. That ship ain't never happened.

That they won't even apologize. California got a plan. They're supposed to give out two hundred and roughly a quarter million dollars. Now they want to give them payments. You know, niggas gonna die first. Yeah, the state don't have to go bankrupt first. I mean, that's they're gonna die real big. It's huge. But this will be the state that compared how much the ship they taught taxed the ship out

of everybody. But the point I'm saying is that's really right the thing, and it's not so you have to lay the burden on the elite that you empower, like white people. Like white people will not celebrate somebody that black people don't celebrate if they're black. White people don't have their nigga. They get their nigga after we're done with him. M hmm. Like who is somebody that white people was like a fan of that was just black and black people just didn't like him, but he was

on with the white folks. That's that person don't exist. Now, it might be somebody there now that white people approve of, but we blew him up first and then y'all took him and now hers m But there's nobody that white people got it's like that guy, he's our guy. Like y'all took Michael Jackson for a long time, he started really like looking like it. Know what I'm saying, y'all took it. But remember the Jackson five. We made this nigging. That's why y'all liked him. Firstly, they like him. We

like him till you got talent. We tried to get y'all risks like now he got too much ship going on. See, that's when you hit that door. That's that's what we call crossing over, you know what I mean when white folks like you. So some people hit that scene and boom boom, boom boom, and it's like y'all like, yeah, I don't know about that one. But the guys, y'all do taking some guys. We turn our backs on pretty

much all of them. Mhm. So I was just thinking, if we didn't have it, So, what's the flaw in that model there? Just like man got really like the flaw on that model is that is you're asking people you're basically just implementing attacks on people, you know, because at that point it's like, okay, if I made a hundred million dollars, and I can get ex profitability out of my fifty million dollars I haven't savings, or I

can get a small fraction of that over here. You're just saying no, it's your duty to take that well margin cut even then, like let's say, if you got a ton of money, you hit right, read hit a ton of money, hunt a million dollars, she hit boomed, she up hunted million dollar right, Beverly Hill should tell her, No, you can't live over here, nigger. What your nigger ass can't live over here? You need to go live for your own good. You need to go live with your

own people. Not it's you. Why do you want to assimilate over here with us white folks. You need to be around your folks, nigger girl. So then you have to move into a community that's a flu in the l a that's black. That's like it's like the flaw on the opportunities I think I think that's it's sort of like pointing in the direction of the flaw on

the opportunity zone concept. Breaking down, Opportunity zones are areas of like low income, high percentage minority residents where you get a financial incentive for injecting capital into that zone. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The issue the issue there is that the capital has to come from outside of that zone. So then that needs that needs to be lawn changes. Yeah, it's it's like it's like when you're it's like people act like sex sex sex and eight subsidies help the tenant,

they don't, don't they pay the landlord. Yeah, it blows the market up and pays the landlord the differences. That's a good way. So you need to have opportunity zones to to be able to organically grow, like like an insular, impoverished black community that's in a defined area. You just all right, your opportunity zone and zone five or whatever the hell. Just do whatever the hell you have to do.

We're not gonna bother you over stupid regulatory prices and not tell you that zoning you can't do this, or just do whatever the hell you have to do, and then you know generation two point Oh, then we'll worry about your carbon emissions, your water, whatever the five, all

this other crap. Otherwise anything else, you're just begging people to come in and then people can play all the gentrification to that gentrification is still people getting if you your grandma bought a house fifty years ago and she's bowing anybody moved in there. Yesterday, two girls did a special on YouTube that I used to know. It was right up the street from where we used to train

in East Oakland on eighty third a half. Um. They thing it's called like selling grandma's out of something like that, and they talk a lot about gentification. Whatever. Your grandma made a fortune, you're grandmed a half million dollars. You're not that mad. But again it's because you can't start

your own like grandma has to start you. Because at that point if you live in watch right now and you try to buy house and watch yeah, and and then grandma cash out and you better hope she give you something because Grandma neill come from the time where they work for everything. So they're looking at you like, hold up, you gotta work the integration on the THC game.

How now you see white people in a business that we've been knowing our whole life that's been exclusively us for us at the major level, and now that's looking completely different. And when I'm saying us, I don't mean just brothers. And I'm talking about people from the corner. Yeah, it was us, It was it was farmers and us. Yeah, that was our connection, the streets and the farmers. But now you have all kinds of other people coming in, gentrifying the same business that people that we know went

to prison over. Yeah, how does that look like? Now? How does that affect everything? With the TSC ship we're sitting there now? Like its its pounds higher now or they lower now that they when it first happened, when the law first passed. I mean, like when the law first passed, and you've seen that influx that white flight right into the business. Normally white flight is out there, wife, white flight right into this way was landing into the T A C game. Did the packs go crazy? Um?

So I was actually fighting my case. Uh. One of my charges was was we'd I fought it so wrong that we'd actually became legal, so they had to drop it. Um. But yeah, packs are a lot cheaper now, a lot cheaper, like because everyone's trying to under cut everybody. There's so many people. Then there wasn't like a distribution because now they have a distribution company and there's a whole like, um,

a whole. It's a it's a business, yeah, exactly. So used to be you you knew a grower, you know, maybe you had a homie and uh uh fu is uh then we'll try and go up there. H yeah. But now it's just everybody. Yeah, and then there are a lot of these labs are backdooring the pounds, you know, yeah, because of the economy has to be super tight on it, so you have to back door to even make a living. The people that have backdooring ain't getting rich. They like

staying above water. That was like they did so much pounds they couldn't even sell them legally because you can put up bury him in the backyard or sell them. It was a we is in Oregon upside down weed auctions. So you have your weed five hundred pound stone silence, four hundred pound silence first first raised, their hand gets the price as the price goes down, not as the price goes up like a regular auction. Upside down auctions. Because they had so what Oregon did as a state,

they tried. I give them their credit. They took a shot, I got a license. They took all of these growth place, all these forms that you know, organized really good soil, Like they have a lot of rain soil, so they made all these grows ones to try to build you know, their economics there, the economy there. So they started allowing the license where pete could just come from Orange County and go get a license and ship it was it wasn't as hard, so a lot of people got licenses started.

But it was so much fucking weed. It was more than the actual supply needed in Oregon. So they weren't they weren't sending it out to California. You weren't allowed to. Gets the law if you take weed across because weed is still federally illegal. The production for the state, like like the amount of weed that could be consumed in the state of Oregon was being grown by the end of the month of February. From January to February, it's

just just too much. So everybody's still growing. So the weed that Oregon needed for a whole year grew with those groups. With those growing from January February, by two months, I still had March to December props. Right, she getting cbd s and all that other stuff across the lines. That's where you gotta get tricky, and that's where to me other people could have made. It's like the gold Rush if Pete was the only one thing and a

lot of my homies wasn't thinking about it. If we would have been thinking like the gold Rush to people who got wealthy on the goal Rush were not the people digging for gold. It was a people that sold the equipment to dig picks. Yeah, if I could do it over again with the money, I would have opened up a certified testing lab. That's what I would have done if I could do it again. But again, sometimes

we see the gold Rush and we're blinded by the shimmer. Yeah, And that's to me the whole overall idea and the issue with integration is we see personal growth. We see the opportunity to buy house in Beverly Hills, you know, and and the growth is going to be great. It's it's a safe investment the money, right, But if you really think about it, it's probably the most selfish thing you could do. And this is another conversation that I want to have. We will probably have a Wednesday cultural like,

what is a cultural responsibility? I was gonna say, why is this selfish? Well, because what is really what's being black? Is it just being black? Is it like when I go I'm somewhere like Dan said, where it's like I'm black and I'm going to Colorado. That's me being black? Is that all? Because then why do we argue for George Floyd that nigga is George Floyd? What are we arguing about? Are we saying we arguing because he's black? Are we finding some relation into just trauma where it's like, oh,

somebody get to ask who I'm saying something. I'm not saying that the one it's time to actually help people, you know, alive, or if a nigga died, like Jesus, we're gonna just build a whole ship. Point So if I worked and I you know, I worked hard, and so I'm saying, Okay, I want to go and I want to live in Beverly Hills. You're saying that I wish the white people help it. I wish the wife would be like, I wish it get back to that place when they be telling your red line is a

little bit more, but it's close to it. But that's actually good. I Actually, the more I think about it, I'm mad wife folk came in because it would have forced these up to the negroes to do better. When we're saying we black, what does that mean? Does that just means I am black? If that's my sheer responsibility of being black? Tell me now, I would never put up a Black Power Fits because I just put up a G Power fits because I'm gee, Okay, why the

fund is this? If there's no real connection. We've talked about this on the podcast. I've told you this. The black experience is how people treat us. That's how people treat you. Black culture is how you treat people. So if the only responsibility of it to a homie is when I'm black, you black, you on your own, nigked or somebody to kick your ass, I could just turn on my camera and complain about it. I don't even got to get out in the streets to help you.

You would have not thought it was twelve motherfucker's out there why George Flood was getting sucked up. But that's trick. Is you naturally like you're just more um, not to say genuine, but you're just more gravitate more towards like your people, like you know, probably, but do we really but I mean like and do we only gravitate to our people because we don't have nothing. Why is it as soon as we get something, we start gravitating to white folks. Why do we get Beverly Hills because we

don't have We don't have that. I mean, we could we have something that's like it, but we don't have it. So because it's white folk. Right, Well, we can have an all black neighborhood that is as expensive as or as wealthy as a Beverly Hills, like you said, if we did, you know, if we built in our community, but we don't have that. So because we don't we But but that's that's where I think it gets tricky at right. It's like, Um, I don't think the solution

is in a black Beverly Hills right Honestly. I think, yeah, money corrupts. They say power corrupts. I think money corrupts. I ain't never seen a wealthy motherfucker that was good. Mm hmmm. I've never seen a person with all power doesn't have a lot of money either decently tied up. So mother could be wealthy, rich, and you're gonna have some power. Mother got some power, he's gonna get some money. So I just don't think the solution is in the black Beverly Hills. I don't think the solution is to

I don't think it's the solution. Well, I don't think it's I don't think that's good because that's probably the problem. Like slavery was not rooted in racism. It was rooted in capitalism. It was rooted in profitability. You know what I'm saying, simple as that, and it turned into what we call racism. It turned into that. I mean, if you could buy motherfucker. Look how we treat dogs. We treat dogs like they are not living, breathing things we like.

We breathe like, look at all them crazy for them thousand dollars they be in breathing. Those people I see on the airplane this morning could treat their dogs very well. White people treat the dog. I swear the God whereat dogs. It's almost weird. There was a dog. I had a miserable god off middle seat between two people who were really into the World Cup that they were watching, yelling back and forth over my head as I was trying to sleep. There was a dog with an aisle seat

six rows up. I almost killed that fucking dog. The dog's role was to help the passenger maintained anxiety from the stress of flying. Apparently, sitting next to a dog reduces the chances that your seat will fall out of the sky. This is serious. But he's so serious. And I tell you true because I see white people treat that. I know a white person that leaves their air conditioning on when they leave because their dogs did and their TV. My mom does it. Though my mom leaves her TV on,

leaves the light, she will she leaves the air conditions outside. No, that's so bad with dogs. I love my dog. I love my dog. But but but think about it. We are out of space now where we're in breeding dogs to create expensive dogs. In breeding the fucking dogs expensive, really expensive to you know, the last time somebody inbred somebody slavery, slavery in breeding human beings from me home. Mix this nigger with this and there, put them together.

They might get a strong there. And we're making these dogs and these dogs be retarded like they was talking about these dogs Frenchies and ship that they different have puppies. They gotta take them to get She says, yeah, dumbass dogs. The dog got to be bottle fed. No, that's a fucking dogs put you writing this bowl, you better walk your grass over and get it. You get pretty bit of deliver them fucking puppies. The homie was telling me, my,

my people. We had one. We it was got to give it um no way because our air conditioning broke and you have to keep the dog like at a certain temperature. Yeah, we were leaving, so the dog can't like overhe like, it can't be outside because it can overhead. It can't be like this. So we had an Isabella, France. It's a very stable climate, so we had to find a center for it. And they and they get anxiety because you can't like you know, leave them alone like

really like. Yeah, so that's why these dogs be fucked up bit as dogs. So and that's my point. So now this is where we act. So back to the point I was making. What it is like we don't treat like like even the way we have dominion over dogs. I can understand how racism happened. If you could buy nigga looked like me for years for I got some ship to offer nigga that was by me. Twe nobody gonna be it. I got way mobile you, nigga. I know how the soul. But then you got at least

pay hunt for me top dollar. I can't be back here with the rest of the negroes. I got to be a little closer with the goods. Stop always jokes. Should I was like, I've been in the field without mine. I for sure that like had a hammer and Cottons prevented that. Taxes, the slave taxes. Do your taxes. I ain't calling you Mass. I'll call you Mr. But I ain't calling you Mass. Set everybody up for all that. See, we need to sell. Oh Joe, Joe, got little that's

got somebody about this peak. I make a joke about your set. Pick your savotur. That's a good show up. Back Pete over there, Glass got Pete big slave jokes like you had? So no, so no, That's what I'm saying. So segregation to me, impetue. I mean, there is a question about it. Do we have Do we have the economic advances in segregation? Do we do? Are we still an entertainer? Are we still the entertainment of the world? It's segregation? Are we still playing in the NBA? Are

we playing in a B A? Does does does Jerry Jones still go look over there and get the niggas. J Jones did meet niggas, But did Jerry Jones go over there and still pick Um brothers. See there's an interesting I was talking about this still the other day. A lot of people look at um a lot of the segregation, segregation of the South, as having been like the facto, Like it was like it happened at the behest of just everybody. They just universally all chose it.

But it was the law. You had to do it, and then you went from one day being have to do it to the next day being banned from doing it. And there wasn't a period of time where you could kind of gauge the temperature in the room where it's like you could do this if you want to, it's bad for your business, if you don't like making money, feel free, or you could not do this if you

want to. You know, it's your personal choice. So there was never really that opportunity to experiment in there, and there could be different economic ramifications because of that, you know, I personally I think that integration is a economically a much better answer. I think it's a much better answer for a few, but everybody. That's that's the thing that you have to either go all in one direction or all in the other direction. You have to. But that's

why I say, I can't see integration being good. Integration only helps. Okay, well it is real quickly. If you're gonna take the integration route, you have to take the integration route. And we're not a community. We just look alike and we're doing our things. You have to marry yourself to that vision. The problem with the other vision, unfortunately, is you have to do I was discussed with Malcolm, you know, saying, like like the Jewish community because they

kill that's that's exactly my ship. But they started in Boiled Heights and they don't get oh yeah, and then they moved it over there. So you can't say we want to stay. If you want to have an intact cultural community, you can't tie it to a geography. You have to say we're gonna do some things and we're going to move to wherever the things are they need to be done, like like anybody else. I mean, that's

what everybody else commudately. They went to Boston, and you can't go gravitate towards it, towards the poorest area of metropolitan and then demand that everybody stay there and build it. It's nearly impossible to do that just from lot size alone. You know, what is it, really? Do we really need all of these lots, these these ridiculous like in Wat's like on a hundred eight hundred nineteeth in the Monas, right, they have huge lots. They have ten twelve thousand square

foot lots. Yeah, some but a lot of them, A lot of them on the other side of the one five A real little no, I agree, But there is still space to have it right there, like like in Compton, right, Yeah, you have you can go to the to the because you can't be opportunistic when you're static. M hmm. And if you if you really like if if it was Watson Compton was hard to build a wall right there. If that's where you want to be, you're beholden to economy is only adjacent to your area in opposed but

finding the hot spot. But I think that's still always That's how America was built and supposed to be in the first place, That's how urban communities strive. In the first place. You could work their play there, lived there. Compton was that in the fifties, in the forties. Yeah, but that's not an eternal model. A lot of those don't work, and they're not the same people living in the same place all the time. There's transience with within,

not transients, transient ce within and among those cities. People move from one to the other, to the other, to the other to the other. So and then also as we've seen clearly that guy's country grows or is one area becomes void of opportunity, another city becomes built. I mean, like as St. Louis and Cleveland have collapsed, Miami has exploded. But but I think is I see so they oh, uh, Miami is a port city. So all that all that out source and ship you doing gotta come here somewhere.

So it makes similar here. I mean the growth in southern California over the last fifty years. It amounts to the Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis, Cleveland failures because now you're not built in population anywhere where there's ports, you're gonna make some good money because now everything is outsource. M but even Eve and then California just has a ridiculous amount of money. Prime Detroit, you know, Prime Michigan was not a ship ton of money it was great money

in the world. I know, I'm not I'm agreeing, but I'm saying California probably the economy by itself, is probably in the top five percent of the world, like because you gotta think, like, I know what they're charged, I know what they're paying at the docks, so I know the money that California has is not I don't think no other statish probably get this money. Yeah. No, it's the sixth largest economy in the world and the whole world.

So I think that's my point. So I think that that's why this is my doin because I'll have an idea and he'll clarify and school and then I could give you some perspective. God, he noticed six nigga sixty, so keep rap doctors. But anyway, so I'm saying, if we just have entirely too much fucking money, and when somebody has entirely too much, some people donna have. Now there's also a pantload of people here, though way more

in other states. Yeah, well yeah, because it ain't just the people here, like this is also as a border town, like literally this is a border state. You can cross over. People come here from foreign you know, Japan. People gonna come here first. Uh, different people gonna come here. But that's all part of the same economy. And while we're making so much money and like also like look at say the growth in suburban Las Vegas and Phoenix over the last A lot of that is because getting me

people out there there, and they're creating opportunities there. And then there's also in a modern economy, you could open up an office building that services you know, HR for business in California, but you pay lesser square foot here you can afford it, and everybody has a nice, bigger, cooler house whatever. So that's why you lived. Integration listable where you're white, but you're not white in the cultural sense you're white and the sense that I'm just white.

You have no obligations except to the people you funk with. Yeah, the only obligation my whiteness is obliged only to the sun in the summertime, sneaks Christy. If a white person gets sucked up by the post, you're not for the picket. I don't give a ship. I don't know that guy. See that. You see what I'm saying. So to me, that's the mind snake that wealthy elite have, but somehow they try to market that I'm brother, support me. And that's what my issue spending this ship all the way

back around, because that's my issue with Dion. You sold us on being black, fucking preacher, fucking church. You sold us on this is why you came. God sent you. I think you are that Jesus amazed BCU. That's what you said when you said Guy sent you. The only motherfucker Guy sent was Jesus Moses was born. God sent you. Was what you said to say that, hbc we are looking at the where is the miracle naked? He's like, when he's two and a half years is the miracle?

My niggad? Well, there's an interesting HBCU. I believe that I forgot his first name, but coach Robinson and Grambling very famous to him. I believe he coached more players in the NFL than any coaching cultural history. Of course, at the time of his retirement might have been passed by somebody in the time, but nonetheless, so what that basically means is, before integration in the Southeast, all the NFL players were HBCUs. That's my point. But the second

that they didn't have to be there. They were from l two seconds hill. Yeah, they were already going to the NFL right where you were. I don't know why do black people find white life attractive. I don't know. It's not so great, man. It's a lot of pressure. They're promised like opportunity, they're promised. No, but that he's right. They were getting the same opportunities, yeah, but they felt like it's something else over there. White people. That's what

they here, white people. And it was like, I fitted over these it's crazy, you are crazy. Nigga killed me when they'd be like, man, these niggas like, man is crazy. All the crazy ship you did? Are you a crazy? Man? They could just forget they'd be crazy. But I always say that if you take a line and put him in captivity long enough, long enough and let him back in a while, he's gonna be walking right over his

lines around this motherfucker. He forgetting your line. I mean, I guess it's no difference from moving your family out to like Palm there off the city. Like you know, that's economics. I'm just saying it's like, Okay, don't see some niggas economics. But it was. It was but it's not routed. It got Yeah if this this was built, yeah this this there was nothing here, but we talked about the town sun village. Yeah that's ship. So again

that's my point. Like yeah, like like, and I get why Really to me, I'm going to get priced out of l A regardless of I can afford it or not. Honestly, the way I see money, Hell, if I got twenty million dollars, I can't afford to live in l A. First off, I don't got the time for traffic. Yeah, entirely today in traffic yea almost spring entirely too much time in my life and traffic crazy. So whatever money I got I can afford at the time, I can't

afford the time. So therefore, if I got twenty million dollars in cash and stacked up in the bag, I can't afford l A. Yeah, I would need to not have to go anywhere and just live in the farms. I have to be right there all the time. And sprouting encompters still, so I need to dry his sprouts. That means that's two hours of my life, two and a half hours to go get unpasteurized on homogenized milk. That's not cool. So that's the thing like l A, you can't afford l A unless you probably got it.

Will see other people that can afford that. To me, I just don't got the time. Some people feel like it. I don't want to deal with the traffic. So most people are gonna get priced out of l A. You don't have a choice. Who has enough money and time? Right, That's like the one critical push back on you know, like there has to be some responsibility when you like moving a large number and pursuing opportunity in a new location. You know, carlon on on a clean slate because obviously

Louisiana to South Central seems everyone Grandma's from Louisiana down there. Yeah, I don't know why else only Louisiana. No one else wanted to go anywhere from anywhere else, but okay you're the exception. Yeah, but from there you see movement in the last twenty years, and every town of destination has had murder swapped into the town like murder Dale or

murder Valley from Reno Valley or whatever else. So you have somebody who worked the tail off, moved the family out there, and then their kids turned it into murder Vale. That's funny. I always say that. I always say that, like people be like, I need to take my kids away because your kid is the problem. That's why he goes to these other towns and fucked these towns of people thought Sammerdino was sweet. People like I moved my

family away from these gettings. That's why it's fucked up. Now, I'm glad you took the murderous motherfucker's out the project. Now they out there killing them people out there. That's smoking crystal. Yeah, that was just killing people. Because it's Thursday in San Bernardino. They like, I'm going back to Boss. It's better than this ship. I tell niggas all the time. Next to be having a nervous saction about Sammer and I'm like, bitch, you will die out there. They get busy.

The first time I got into a shootout as a rapper is in sam Berndino. I ain't really had too many issues as a rapper. Sam Berninos like nigga and I'm I'm cap I am capping that ship. Might be an open investigation right now, I'm capping. Yeah, these niggas coming over here, they're talking to us where you niggas from they on the homie, the homie walking and try to go get something, to get a girl number. They finna move on him. Where this nigga from. You're gonna

rob this nigga? What they are talking about? Whoa hold on? Get on it? Uh step over. That's the type of ship that's happening there. Yeah, I know it's happening. And the capt back Yeah, so yeah, I think. But that's my point because there's everyone's moved out there. It's it's it's not out there. And Lancaster and you know it's going down out there too. And the murder Man Caster. We gotta make up a cold murder name for man Man down Caster. That's true because Brino Valley is murder Vale.

I remember they was calling it down was like murder value, and about a year later, I was like a murder value, it's just tripping. It's so remember the first time I actually went there kill a man cast. There was a girl I do who ran track in another school in Arizona.

So I was coming back from the a Z and I was wondering because I was like I had to do some sort of thing for a class about demographics I'm like, yeah, how did South Central go from like an eight split of black to Mexican to the inverse like people have to move somewhere. And then I get off the freeway Marinal Valley. Everybody came here. Good looking out for tuning into the No Sellers Podcast. Please do

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