Conversations About Hip Hop's Accountability

serious radio stuff. Shout out to Ron Mills, all my good people over there, see what's up. But stopped in Boston. Did the press up there? Promo up there? Shut out to my brother DJ ras Sheet and I come home and when I get home, obviously I do my run. So a lot of good, solid brothers on the West. That started all of these dope you know media platforms back on fig the community, my boy Pun Trail, a

d mac wad. They just created like this really dope you know media kind of cipher and it's been unbelievable. Like right, that run has been crazy. The conversation has been crazy. One of the main conversations is that's that everybody's being stuck on is is Drake hip Hop? For twelve years, I ran around just to learn what records was about, just to learn what hip hop was about,

just to learn what marketing was about. I literally decided I wasn't gonna even make money in this business because I felt like I didn't do enough to deserve it, Like it had already paid me millions of dollars and I didn't do enough to deserve it. So I committed to it, almost like a nun or something. Because going into like a church or you know how they pledged their life to Catholicism, That's how I pledged my existence

to hip hop and understanding what was going on. And obviously I'm compelled to speak on it at another level because I literally sacrificed enough to have an opinion. I've done enough work. I've done the work to have an opinion. Now, how good I think my album is. It's not just the work itself. The reason I know my album is great, right, it's because I did the work. But then when you listen to the album and you know enough, minds tell

you what it is, they confirm it. But I was confident, just like a boxer and training camp because I did all the hard work and training camp. I did all the hard work way before you heard the music. But it just made me have some interesting thoughts about hip hop that was different. And I noticed it's a movement of black people really blaming hip hop for everything right. And these same black people are some of the brothers that argue with me about this particular topic. Shout out

to my Nigga Jobs intellectually petty. Intellectually petty radio A podcasts, y'all go look it up for some of YouTube, really intelligent brother from the Midwest from Detroit. And it made me think, and I think we've talked about this before with different people on those seilings, that term accountability. What is hip hop's accountability in the current status, like in the current state of the ghettos across America? How much is hip hop to blame? Jobs was saying to me.

He thought Sexy Rare with Satan, and I'm like, this is this young twenty seven year old girl from Saint Louis, right, who obviously understands some marketing. Because even through all of the the marketing itself and the funniness itself of what's going on. Most women when they're trying to be sexy, the first thing they want to do is take off their glasses. This girl keeps her glasses on, doing the most ratchet shit in the world, acting like she's attempting

to be sexy. I really think sexy Red is like a marketing savant because this motherfucker ain't took off her glasses. Wearing two pieces. You know, she could get contacts. She won't take off her glasses. Daisy Dupes splits ratchet, but she got her glasses on. It reminds me of Ice Spice and that orphan any wig. Ice Spice is like orphan any with ass when she wear that wig. Like

their marketing savants. That whole generation under thirty, that generation, I don't know if it's Alpha, but that whichever generation it is, they're marketing savants. All these motherfuckers under thirty understand how they want you to see them, and they

understand what you're gonna think about it. But back to the point he was saying, he felt sexy Rere was the satan, and I'm like, with all these Sam Smiths and people doing crazy shit on these award shows, endorsing the devil, you thought a black lady, a black young girl from fucking Saint Louis because she's a bit extra promiscuous, is satan? Like, she's satan. It's so it's not Generation Alpha, it's the millennials or generation Why. But I'm like, she's Satan.

What is sexy Read really to blame for? At this point? What is she really to blame for? No, Siller's jail flying solo today, Ain't no auto pilot, ain't no co pilots. It's just me and y'all. So we're gonna pop this shit. But what is sexy Read really to blame for? At this point? Doug, is sexy Read the first hood rat girl in the communities? Is she inspiring women to be

hood rats? Or is she a reflection that there is a promiscuous group of women that suffer from a level of trauma that makes them feel like they have ownership over certain things that you obviously are really rich and deep that they feel they have ownership over. Maybe they feel they have to claim ownership over it because in some of those situations, some of these people women molested

and went through hell. So now they're trying to claim it to have some level of strength, But it's Sexy Red really inspiring a generation of women to be hood rats. Her biggest demographic is going to be middle class America. White women you feel me, that are in college, white women that live in the suburbs. Are is she gonna inspire them to get pregnant? Are white women gonna line up at the plant parenthood or at the clinic because

they got STDs? Like Sexy Red rap about? Like, is there clinics gonna be overfilled with motherfucking women getting abortion? Like how much is hip hop really to blame? Like let's be for real, like we didne got so far out of the space of understand that systemic oppression is still currently going on, Like and we'll find ways to

figure it out. We'll name it. If somebody get their ass killed by police and then the police get off, we'll see it be like, well that's different we act like one day we woke up and then the United States of America decided, well, we not gonna go hard on these niggas no more. So it must be these niggas fault at this point that they are a bit traumatized and react and develop confidence in even lower standards. It's sexy Red really to blame, Like, come on, man,

like this shit is getting crazy. Look, you don't gotta like it, bro, I get it. You don't gotta like it. Maybe you have a daughter cause and you're like, I don't want my daughter to be sexy red. Bro, if you're in her life, she's not gonna be sexy red. Trust me, if you, as a father, are in her life, she is not gonna be sexy red. She is not gonna be sexy red. Sexy Reds issues are completely different. It's obviously it's obvious that girl been through a lot

of shit. But the fact that we're blaming an artist painting a picture of something that exists in our communities and we like, well, she's gonna tell everybody else they didn't know hood rats existed. I saw people talking about are we celebrating sexy Red or sexy Red celebrating that promiscuous culture that people feel like she's a part of. And I'm like, what if her experiences is only fucking

with crazy niggas because she live in the ghetto. You don't want people to know it's crazy Because I remember growing up and people like see the Lords Tucker blaming hip hop for what's going on in the ghetto, not the ghetto for what's going on in hip hop, because that would be too much like right. Instead, she's blaming hip hop for what's going on in the ghetto. Again, I say she was blaming hip hop for what's going on in the ghetto. She didn't blame what's going on

in the ghetto on hip hop. I mean, excuse me. She didn't blame what's going on in hip hop on the ghetto. It was the other way around. The art was inspiring the community. So you got all of these grown, middle aged men acting like Sexy Red is some kind of unique character or her characters should be suppressed, even though most of y'all have pretty much dealt with a sexy Red, especially if you grew up where we grew up at. Maybe your baby mama is a sexy Red.

Maybe you're the reason that sexy Red became sexy Red. It ain't like you niggas as waking up trying to wipe these women. You're trying to get some pussy. So if you're trying to get some pussy, and lord knows how hell bent we bet on trying to get some pussy, we'll lie, We'll do whatever it take. We'll break a woman's spirit just to get some pussy, and then when they mutate into sexy Red, we'll be like, well, I don't know what happened. And then we'll get older and

really disassociate ourselves from those circumstances. And again, I say, if sexy Red is that influential, then why aren't these white women having the same exact problem. Why why the biggest supporter of hip hop is very much Middle American white people. Why why traditionally are they not changing? And then if you notice they're not changing, you're like, well, they're different. You know, they have this and that. You know, but it's affecting the ghetto or is the ghetto affecting

the cheese a representation of it? This shit just sometimes is getting crazy, Like we have literally decided white people are not to blame, or we said we've blamed them enough, even though they had motherfuckers and slave for two three hundred years, four hundred years, We like, oh well this hundred years was enough to escape it. All I hear is hip hop's negative influence. All blame hip hop? Hip hop did this? Not the ghetto is inspiring hip hop,

but hip hop is inspiring the ghetto. Well, let's talk about what the ghetto has done. Let's talk about ice Cube. Does anybody truly give ice Cube credit for creating three of the biggest comics in the last I don't know thirty years. Chris Tucker came from ice Cube, Mike Apps came from ice Cube. Cat Williams came from ice Cube.

Everybody said, Chris Tucker made these big one hundred two, three four five hundred blockbuster million dollar films, three four five hundred dollars meal four five hundred million dollar films, and all that that came from some nigga in hip hop, some nigga that grew up in one to eleven South Central one eleven neighborhood crip created three of the ten biggest comics in the last thirty years. Hip hop did that. Hip hop did that. You don't have rush Hour without

fucking ice Qube. You don't have a rush Hour. So you probably don't have Jackie Chan at this level without ice Q. Because Chris Tucker is the starter film, right, he's selling a film on a mainstream level. You don't have none of them rush Hours. So about I don't know a billion dollars worth of film franchise. You owe that to hip hop because some nigga who said fuck the police in eighty eight created a platform and motherfucking developed one of the biggest and most important film stars

in the last motherfucking thirty years. You owe hip hop for that? How about? What is that a trade off of sexy read? You have Chris Tucker, Mike Apps. I can't go down to listen ship Mike Apps has contributed to that matter. Cat Williams, we all know how fucking unbelievable he is. That's Cat Williams. Fucking Cat Williams dog. But I was gonna give hip hop credit for that? Probably not, Probably fucking not. What about Terry Crews. Y'all

love Terry Crews, y'all. That's y'all, motherfucking mad old Terry Crews. He was in training day, he was a backup person. Friday at the next was his moment to Shine. You owe that to Ice Q, You owe that to hip hop? You owe that to hip hop? Can hip hop get a thank you? You give it all the blame, all the fucking blame is hip hop. But where is all the fucking credit? A guy on Twitter Today asked me about Snoop Dogg. He said crips didn't exist in the

Midwest until Snoop Dogg came out. Not the drug game where everybody from Los Angeles was going to these towns and setting up shot. Nope, the rap music, hip hop. And I do agree that Snoop reinforced the title crypts. He made people that was the first cryp. Most people really felt like they knew. He's by far the most popular crip of all time. It's pretty much it's fair to say he's the greatest cryp of all time. But

he also defined it in his way. So while you're looking at Rocket from Colors and like, this is what crypts are about. Which in the movie Colors, maybe Rocket, you know, shout out to Don Cheto probably the greatest Black actor you know ever as far as just pure skills. I mean, I don't think he have the films of Denzel Washington or like my favorite actor, you know, Samuel Jackson, but just pure pound for pound awesome acting. Don Cheetoh was probably the best one as far as Black actors go.

Maybe him a Forest Whitaker, but you know what I'm saying, It's like Snoop is he didn't let Colors tell you what cripping was about. So while you were looking at the film Colors or the film dough Boy, you know, excuse me boys in the Hood with Doe Boy, or or the Wren's take character, Oh Dog, you mess, Snoop, and Snoop showed you how diverse a cryp can be, because that's how most crips are. Just like Snoop. Some have jobs, some go to school, some most raised their family,

most get married, most of them are productive members in society. Eventually, they may start off in these ghettos, having to earn how they earn, But just like my older homie Pluck, they'll figure out their way. They'll be owning trucks and driving trucks, or like my older homie Moon, they'll be having tow trucks and running motorcycle clubs and monetizing social lifestyles.

Or they'll be like my ogi homie Shady, who can pull apart of hardy and put it back together, engine, frame, wheels, everything, or like my homeboy Boom, my older homie Boo and put together cars and he knows how to paint them and bring cars back to life. After they've been salvaged. Just because Hollywood tried to tell you what crips was, you ran to everybody else like, this is what crips was. And then you met Snoop. It Snoop showed you everything cribs could be. It made the whole world fall in

love with crips. That's what hip hop does. Hip hop shows you how the ghetto party, how the ghetto parties. That's where hip hop started at as far as the music, it started as a party. When we celebrated the fiftieth year. The address they put on that flyer fifteen to twenty segwich that project. You were going to a party. It was a hip hop. My dad and the generation they called a party a hop and you know what hip is. Hip is cool. It was the way the ghetto party.

We are the cool kids. The way we write right, that's tagging. The way we dance, that's breaking, the way we take the music and make our own thing right, that's a breakbeat. And then we can't sing. We wasn't professional trained singers, So guess what we rap? Shout out to Joe Text, shout out to the watch poets. DJ's existed before hip hop they did. They existed before hip hop. This goal had DJ's, radio had DJ's, but they didn't do it the way we did it. They didn't do

it the way the cool kids did it. So it looks like we created all of this stuff because we're so fucking cool in these ghettos that when we start doing stuff, everybody does stuff like it. But you know what, it's not the ghetto that does stuff like it, it's Middle America that does stuff like it. So I'm almost starting to believe Middle America is not as mad at hip as the people that are black people. It's almost like it's more ridicule from middle class and wealthy black

people or successful black people on poor people. I don't even think they really believe in systemic oppression because they're successful. I think this is a greater problem. I genuinely think this is a greater problem. I think this is a greater problem. I've heard people tell me hip hop, oh, it was created to solve problems. And then I had great conversations with Crazy Legs and other founding fathers, and they was like, man, we were stick of kids. They

were telling me they were criminals. The Black Spades are pretty much the founder of hip hop. That's a gang in the runs. So when people blame Snoop Dogg, like, oh, well, you know, crips didn't exist in the Midwest before Snoop Dogg, just because you retitled gangs. Gangs existed in the Midwest before Snoop Dogg. Violence existed in the Midwest before Snoop Dogg. All of these things existed. But because you put the new name Crips on there, like, the violence is magnified. Oh,

the violence has to be crazier. I just don't get it. I really don't get it. Forty years ago, we understood systemic oppression, you know, we understood poverty, like that type of economic hardship was responsible for the way people acted in the ghetto. The fashion is the fashion because people were deprived of economics, and six pair of dickeys cost fifty dollars, seven pair of checks of chuck all start. You know, converts cost fifty dollars. T shirts were undershirts.

They were cheap. So people mom didn't have money, but they wanted to make sure their kids had new clothes, so they went down to HP Huntington Park and bought them new clothes. You get six pair of pants for fifty dollars, six pair of shoes for fifty dollars, different colored shirts for fifty dollars, and you have enough for a whole school year. So your mentality is, we should have been sad because our circumstances. We should have been sad. We shouldn't find a sense of pride. That's what hip

hop is. It's that pride of no matter how bad our circumstances are, we still find pride to exist. We still make it look good. We're gonna put big crease, a big crease, and those six pans for fifty dollars, we're gonna wear it with pride, and we're gonna wear it so fucking awesome that everybody else who could afford better wants to wear them. That's what hip hop is. You know what else is like that? Soul food? Soul

food is just like that. It was the slops that the master threw back there, the worst of the vegetables, the worst of everything we cooked. That shit so fired that they start coming back to the back house trying to eat. Now they have gourmet restaurants selling soul food, slave food, not black food. Slave food. Hip hop is slave food. It's when you find a sense of pride no matter the circumstance, and you put that pride on so motherfucking thick cuz that the world be like, Damn,

that shit looks nice. It's like an ugly bitch with too much confidence. The ugliest woman could get the best man if she but makes her if she believes in herself, it convinces him that she thinks she the shit. You a fool of motherfucker. I knew a girl that was like that to me. This motherfucker was ugly, but she acted like she was fine and had me kind of have fast convinced. I started to want to take the bit child. I have to get my thoughts together. That's

what hip hop is. It's finding a sense of pride no matter the circumstances you are put in. Yeah, you can't learn. They don't got no band programs. They took all the band programs away. Well guess what, I'm gonna take the break of this record the drum loop, and I'm gonna loot this motherfucker over and over again. Then I don't know how to sing, but I know how to put my thoughts together and make the motherfuckers rhyme. They didn't give me no professional dance lesson. But I

know what this beat is telling me. I see all these breaks, so let me break just like this motherfucking beat. Yeah, the education programs wasn't that great, showing us how to write, and the cursive program and all that was and shit, But I know how to make this art look motherfucking nice.

Hip Hop is about take making whatever your circumstances are and making it work and making it sexy, putting it on with pride, and you will have motherfuckers that could afford better being a part of it, just because you carry it with such pride. And that's your fear for a sex. She read her trauma, you know, niggas using her whatever happened to her in her life that made her feel like this ain't valuable. She still created a sense of value, and no matter her circumstances, she walk

around pride being a motherfucker she is. That's what she's supposed to do. That's what she's supposed to do. She'll get exposed to more and everything else, a change in her life, but she supposed to be proud of the motherfucker she is. And you motherfuckers want her to walk around with her head down. That's why I hate you, motherfuckers. Y'all jealous of that sister, because she walk around with her fucking head up. She comes from one of the

poorest places in this fucking country. She then made it out. Whatever her circumstances is, whatever promission, whatever promiscuous lifestyle she did is she didn't put together enough words and got some dope beats and put her bread together. And she's so proud of herself, and she proud of the motherfucker she is. And y'all made Oh, she's showing she's she's doing too much. She's talking about real life shit, shit

that really happens. And you so worried about your daughter hearing that bitch, Get in your daughter life and be her fucking parent, Be her parent, ber parent. You won't have nothing to worry about. You worried about your son hearing Snoop dogg Rap. You think he's gonna run to the nearest crip neighborhood. If your son her Snoop and he didn't live in a crip neighborhood, most likely he not gonna run to the nearest neighborhood to be a fucking crypt for rest is sure, Snoop, don't got nothing

to do with glasses. Look being a crypt because I grew up in cryp neighborhoods. That's why I'm a crip, because I'm from there. And if I'm wrong, then white people would have crips in their neighborhood. They'd be all crips and they'd be killing each other. The murder raider be crazy. But you can't blame the same ghetto that's spawning this lifestyle and then these niggas representing it as these niggas the problem. That's just a fucking intellectually lazy argument,

and you don't want to face what's going on. It's like blaming the motherfucking cough, not the virus, for why you sick. Imagine blaming the cough, not the virus, for why you sick. When you cough, when you sneeze, it's your body relieving pressure. It's pressure building on inside, and that shit, that cough, that sneeze, all that shit your

nose running is your body relieving fucking pressure. And instead of trying to find a cure for the virus, y'all spending time complaining and trying to make people suppress the symptoms. That shit didn't starting nobody body first, that shit started outside. It ain't like one motherfucker mutator of flu, and then now it's spread it to everybody. No motherfucking the flu existed and people got motherfucking infected by the flu. We don't want to do the work. We don't want to

do the hard work. We want to take the easy routes, out the easy routes. Oh, let's blame sexy read for what's going on. Now, let's go back to the independent Woman's Right movement, where women mistake what the fucking point was, which was to get equal pay. Now they think they equal. We don't want to never do the hard work, and we always want to blame black people. It's always black people. Fuck. Oh, it's black people. Fuck. It don't matter what happened. We could,

we could suffer three four hundred years of racism. It's black people far for that. It's black people for it's black people for It's just get crazier and crazier. I don't know what the fuck we really be talking about. So answer me this. If you genuinely believe that rap music has this kind of influence, is Little Nasa gonna make people gay as little Now? Is your son gonna see Little nas X and think I want to suck a dick? Do you think that? Like? How far does

this go? Is your son gonna see Drake and go to his nearest synagogue and so he can have a bar mitzvah? Is your son gonna see Kanye West and decide, okay, you know what. I want to get my own shoe with Adidas, and I'm go want to go to art school and figure out, Like, why is it we always focus on what's what we think we don't like about the ghetto. What about the things we do like about the ghetto? I don't know. I guess y'all don't like it about the ghetto. I don't quite know no more.

I used to think I knew. I really thought I had an idea, But y'all motherfucker's confusing the fuck out of me. Every fucking day. It's always some new shit with y'all. And I'm not talking to No Ceilings listeners. I'm not talking to No Ceilings listeners. I'm talking to all these motherfuckers who don't listen to No Ceilings, Because if you listen to no ceilings. I know your motherfucking mind is wide open, wide open, because the shit that I be reading, the shit I learned, learn about all

the different materials. I read the Bible and talk about it like it's a doctor Seus's book. So you gotta have an open mind to be a fan of this motherfucking podcast, because I'm gonna really pick it up. I'm really gonna pick it up. I'm gonna pick up every book, and I'm gonna read as much as possible. I'm gonna approach everything I'm gonna read, think, talk to smarter people about it, talk to people who don't know much about it,

and really put it together. I'm just at a disgusted place that we keep really trying to blame hip hop for the science, systemic oppression, lack of opportunity, you know what I mean, enforce poverty that we've been dealing with forever. But now that's over. I guess gentrification is not really happening. There are tons of great jobs in the community, all these things, just tons of great jobs in to getther, we just don't want them. That must be what it is.

That's the only thing it could be. That's the only motherfucking thing. It could be. None of this other shit don't make sense. I just think we got to a weird place when we could take we could blame this twenty five, twenty six year old girl from Saint Louis

and treat her like she's the Antichrist. Look, you don't gotta like her records, you don't even gotta like her as a talent, but to pick up pitchforks and sit around as but fucked on Twitter and condemn some motherfucking body because this little goofy looking little kid, this little goofy young lady, represent nothing special. She is not that, she's not the coming of an end. The end is not near because Sexy Red has a rap song describing the fucking obvious. A pink vagina and a brown ain't

no hole that set you off? That set you off? It's this much outrage over a girl talking about her vagina is pink and her ain't no hole is brown. This is what's setting y'all off. Y'all motherfuckers is crazy. I'm either y'all crazy or I'm crazy one or the other. And I know y'all be wanting me to think it's me, but I'm the only motherfucker in the room that's sober. I'm the only motherfucker in the room that's not running

from a problem. I'm not running to that. I'm not running from a problem getting drunk, I'm not getting high. I face every problem. If a nigga got a problem, I pull up in front of him. Blaming Sexy Red is like smoking crack and talking about the conditions of the ghetto, or what's up with your body? Blaming Sexy Red like sexy Red been out eight nine months? Max, y'all, motherfucker's got to be crazy. Man, y'all, motherfucker's got to be stone cold crazy. How many more things can we

really blame the art for? How many more things? Bro? How much more accountable do you really want hip hop to be for reflecting current conditions in the ghetto? Cuz that's all I'm asking? Answer me that good looking out For tuning into The Note Seller's podcast, Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, and share. This episode was recorded right here on the West coast of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King for the Black Effect Podcast Network and Not Heard Radio. Yeah