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Conversations about Guns

Oct 26, 202144 minSeason 1Ep. 38
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Welcome back to No Ceilings. With Hollywood in shambles around the deadly accident on the set of Alec Baldwin’s film “Rust”, this week finds Glasses & Peter discussing guns and gun control. NC tackles the idea behind the second amendment, while connecting the discussion to mass shootings. 


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I don't believe anybody should have guns. I think I said this to you before. Nobody, the police, human beings don't even need guns. We're not hunting anymore, you know what I'm saying, Like right now, it's a sport, but if one person got one gun, I need all the guns. You're on the fall lead about the rebellious kind of

culture nature of Los Angeles. I think your precursor to that is l A is like very like, very deliberately blatantly probably the most geographically financially segregated place I have ever seen. And the history of the city, like I read the history of all the projects in l A, the old ones, and how they got built, why they got built, the zoning impacts, like even the chiviz Ravine history, Like zoning has always been the that's if there was racism,

systemic racing, that's what it would be. Is what you see. Absolutely whether you believe that's the concept of it, it's it's almost kind of like it. Yeah, it controls your wealth because you know, most people property is is almost their nestic to the to a degree, especially is out here. I mean you look at you don't have any disposable income, so your your liquid investments as a Southern California going to be slight. So you've mortgaged literally your entire future

on the value of your personal primary household. So I mean, like I've joked around saying, like our generation of people, the average person is going to pour all the every last dollar into a thirty year mortgage, retire and not have a four one K, but just use a reverse mortgage or just believe that until they die. It's just an uphill downhill mortgage skill. Um, there's because the zip

code prejudice is crazy. It doesn't it doesn't matter who's there, like whoever is in zip code that's still yeah true, And and we were just talking about that the other day. Um, Watts is at like four or fifty, like nine, it's properties in nine thousand two that's at four or fifty yeah, non triple to this nine double o fifty nine. There's

addresses that are at four hundred thousand dollars. And right now it seemed cool because the rates are low, but as the rates slide, you know, are you gonna pay thirty No, that's kind of thousands of those work inversely all the time. Sure, So that's why I mean, I don't know. We was talking about it. Do you think the market is gonna crash eventually? Oh yeah, they punched pumpled a ton of money in and there's a lot of institutional money that came and gobbled up, uh, particularly

low and stuff all over across the country. I think that's it's unsustainably low um interest rate. There's a lot of money sitting around, and I think people also right now, a lot of people who didn't want to blow all their money all the COVID money on vacations and handbags are like looking around, Oh my god, I gotta buy something to hedge inflation. So that's driven demand up. Also, I don't see I'm sitting on money. I'm trying to

make a move next year, you know. But I I feel the same way right now that I felt in like two thousand and six or seven. Has or friends of mine, Yeah, I remember, like my girlfriend and my best friend at the time both bought houses in oh six and my buddy who just called me awesome dude, East Oakland guy ran track in this bought a house for like a half a million dollars in Patterson, California. Wow, which is a truck stopping a gas station off the

five somewhere between nowhere and nowhere. I mean, it's like it's there's nothing, and I'm He's like, man, it's gonna be worth a million and two to I'm like, dude, if that's worth a million and too, I'm paying twenty five dollars for a bottle of milk, no sailings, g low. I'm my man, Peter, Man, Peter, if we have some cold financial tips. I paid twenty dollars for my gallon of milk. Now if I get uh, because I buy unpasteurized, homogenized milk, it's like twenties some dollars. I buy the

five dollar court of what's that dairy? Is the old school nine fifties glass bottle from Manta Bello. Yeah, I always get there. Yeah, it's just like five oars for a court yeh, I'll buy that sometimes. Um, I was, I lowered my dairy and takes, so I'm like, when I go dairy, I'm going champagne, baby, champagne and dare all right. So look, you see this ship happened with Alex Browin. Man, I have a question talking about this, so I just so tell me what you, what do

you think about that? I have a lot of thoughts. My first thought is are we still going to be able to see the movie? My second thought is, if it's material evidence of an investigation, can I use a Freedom of Information Act request to see the movie for free? Always got always canceled, Always got an angle? You get us canceled? Well, tell me for what you think, man, I don't know. I mean it's somewhere between the straight line pathway to negligence by the by the operating team.

Is that there was some issues with labor dispute. People walked off, they tried to replace them with just like local personnel who weren't trained in the chain of custody practices, and that there was actually what a couple of guns that fired. I've the day before, so I noticed that. I've seen that this morning. I would like to think if that was happening, you feel most of your shooting scenes from the back. But yeah, show must go on.

I mean, unfortunately, it's just crazy. I've never heard of even like like Bruce Lee's kid like that, but which I saw, you know more about guns and me the Brandon Lee thing. They said the slug got lodged in the barrel and the blank, the force of the blank popped it out and it shot him. Was was what I had seen on VH one one time when I was a kid. I've seen that. Is that possible? I never had blanks? Everything I had was hot. So have you ever heard of I mean, have to be I

would guess a full metal jacket getting stuck in the barrel. Um, not that I know of. But but again, I've seen guns melt. I've seen guns breakdown, break apart. I say, some ship happened, But what happened to Atlanta? Rest in peace? To Atlanta Hutsons. She was a super dope dp. Everybody talk about her, you know her her work, like she was gonna be some ship. And she was a pretty

lady too. Husband lost her and everything. So um. But the gun part of it, man, is is it's such an accident and we're in such a weird time with guns where it's an all out assault by um. I don't know. Maybe you would call it the left, you know, you went to more of the politics than I am, or liberals on guns being you know the problem versus you can call people being the problem. It's it's an

all out ofssault by government period. I mean, because the truth is, when the chips are down and Republicans have an opportunity to kick a vote over to take your gun right, they love the campaign and get funding, money and get votes and all that kind of ship with yap yapp. But when it's forty five Democrats and fifty five Republicans, they'll choose six Republicans to take that over to fifty one every time. It won't be the same six every time, but they'll they'll find six people to

take your gun rights from you every time. So you believe it's it's the government in general. Yes, So at that point, the whole Second Amendment thing, nobody's really they're just they're all campaigning it, but they don't really believe in it. There's some like there's I would say, in the Republican Party off top my head, and maybe you're dealing with a quarter of actual Republicans that are walking like they talking, that are small government like constitutional conservative,

like individual rights, decentralized power type people. Do you think that Do you think like the Second Amendment and parts of the Constitution, do you think those things could live forward to today? Or you think that's what's wrong now, is that we're abandoning those things like the Second Amendment, and that's causing the majority of the problems at this point, like because it was supposed to be small government, because the constitutional theory is supposed to be against the monopoly,

like we're becoming England. Yeah, definitely. I think there's a lot of things going on at once. I think that like society has evolved in a lot of ways, like the society from it for you, Black America has changed

radically obviously to a point culturally our culture is mainstream. Yeah, and and and over the course of I mean, I don't know when it was, if there was a year, I'm assuming it was probably rolls out with states and ship But like I don't even know when your average black person could go buy a gun in his Yeah, yeah, that that probably was really late, unless you could if you were black. And I don't know New York or Pennsylvania early on, I don't know. I probably couldn't get

it that early into it. Um. But but the whole point of the Second Amendment, right was to protect the citizens against tyranny, right against the government's So at that point it makes sense it's true to form that the government will be trying to remove the guns from people to be tyrannical. Yeah. Absolutely, Um, I mean I don't know. I'll be honest, right, I'll keep it a buck with you. Um, I don't believe anybody should have guns. I think I

said this to you before. Nobody, the police, human beings don't even need guns. We're not hunting anymore, you know what I'm saying, Like right now, it's the sport. But if one person got one gun, I need all the guns. And because and and somebody asked me, was that rooted in fear, I'm like, no, I just need to keep the odds even for myself totally. Like I'm fair all the way through and through. If you if we if you want to fight, we could fight if you want to.

If you wanna resolve this amicably without a fight, I'm with that. If you want to start shooting, I'm with that. Like I feel like I want to meet everybody on their level. That's one thing Gangbanger taught me. You're one thing that's interesting that I was just thinking of it. As far as the evolution of society, I think there's obviously been a morality decay across the board. I mean, and and and has it really been a morality decay at some place? Like is it? Is it really a

morality issue? Like somebody asked me, like, if we're talking, let's say we're talking about R. Kelly, I just rewind back for two seconds. I don't get stuff. But somebody asked me, you know I didn't have a problem with that wasn't morally wrong? And I'm like, well, morals, it's based off nature. So no, morally what R Kelly did is not wrong right morally now, lawfully, whatever law he's broke,

you know he deserved it. But morally, this has kind of existed in humanity since the beginning of a time totally. Where I think there's been a moral decay, for lack of a better term, is in the micro. I think that there's been shifts in the macros to what society and in the community deems acceptable, you know, throughout history. I think now there's more of an individual subjective interest in going along with that idea than there used to be.

You know, so like if some it's more sheeps now, then you know there's there's there's there's less sheep now I mean, like I think a great like and it's it's very anecdotal, but like one of the things Tom Sault talks about, he's an old economists. He's a black guy, grew up in Harlem and like the thirties, like nineties some now, so this is pre war and not Afghanistan either, but he said he used to, you know, as a kid, be out at night by a newspaper he was he

could sleep on the fire escape and you didn't. You could leave something around and someone will walk up and say, hey, you left this here. So you can't do that and decide not anywhere. Not not picking on Harlem, but like, there is a there's a certain subjective nature two ethics now that I feel like there wasn't some ethics. The standard bar for everybody has moved throughout history. You know, it wasn't deemed unethical to be a slave owner. Now it is, but it was always deemed in ethical to

take somebody's ship. Now people are like, well fuck them, And it was before people were like, yeah, that's fair. Everybody did hate the thief at once. Now there's a culture of people celebrating being a thief. Yeah, it's almost viewed as call it flocking. Yeah, well I mean like now, I mean, like what was it l a San Francisco places, they are saying, if you stop left unders, we're not

going to charge you. So you see all those videos that people walking out of stores with Yeah, and they're saying, oh, well, it's it's morality because of because of inequality. It's a correction for equality to allow instead of giving, instead of giving you, you know, figuring out the way, they provide more careers and more opportunities to raise your financial and social status. Just still something. Yeah, you could get away with it because shitty retail goods is all you need.

That's the answer to everything. Flat screens of T shirts and well on your way. Hey man, you're gonna be all right in this America. Go put this fifty six inch it seventy nine inch TV and your eight inch room. I would hate to look at what the business insurance rates in San Francisco have done in the last two years. Like sure, you know, costing more than the inventory which they're stealing. Sure, it's gonna get off my phone, my phone,

you see what happened? Um, I don't know, man, is I feel bad for the lady it's just a tough situation. And again, guns will be blamed through society like they're gonna blame guns. They're not gonna blame you know, you know people miss handling. What's going on is it's never the guns fault. I still think it's never the guns.

People blame guns like it's funny because if you see um, like when Dylan Ruth or um different people did these mass shootings, they don't never post a picture long time and for for like when they're covering the story, eventually it goes away from the picture of the person and it becomes a focus on the actual tools the guns. Oh in a second, I mean like that that happens immediately. Yeah, and it's where like they'll be like these are the guns that was used. It's like, fuck the guns. The

miss paper weights. They miss fucking high dollar paperweights. Who is the motherfucker. Let's go into the mind of the motherfucker that made this happened. Let's talk about that person. I mean, but again, if it's if the government is trying to make a move to be tyrannical, this would be the perfect way to do it. You fear, they and those things are so stupid to me. If you're motivated and willing to die, you can do whatever the

funk you want. I mean, I don't hear of a lot of mass shootings and like Syria, but I hear of a lot of people walking into like therapy and blow themselves up or driving you know, it was like there was a couple of times in Paris or Europe or people would just you know, I want to go commit a terrorist act. They would just hop the sidewalk in a van and just plow down thirty people. If you want to die right here and now, you can

get a lot of things done. And I think that it's like, oh well, if it's no guns, it's like that's not going to help you. Okay. Is the police getting rid of their guns? No? Is the government getting rid of their guns? No? What you want people to not have their guns? Yeah? I didn't hear a whole lot about of a pushback when we're pulling out of Afghan stand and Biden dropped that drone on that family

killed twelve people. Night haven't said nothing else about it, very little, and say we're gonna ban bombs and drones exactly. And I don't know. Man, again, like, I'm not a stout. Like I'm an n r A member, I'm not a stout believer in guns. I'm just a member because I have rifles. You're a member of the n r A and the n w A. Man all the Malcolm X sat down with George Rockwell, I'm one of them kind of people. Um, I don't believe I have to be committed to anything just because our own guns. I don't

mean I'm committed to guns being legal. I don't give a funk if they were legal or not. I would have minds and listen, if we all decided we're gonna get rid of our guns, I'm all in the police, the government. Everybody was like, you know, we're turning our guns. I turned in my guns fast with y'all. But if that motherfucker is gonna keep one, oh my ship, I'm keeping it. All. That requires an amount of mass blind

trust that is scary to me. Like, let's suppose everybody who had a gun said okay on Thursday, everyone goes and turns them in. You don't think a guy like I don't know me wouldn't smash my car window, take a picture of and go Holy ship. Someone stole my gun. I was gonna turn that in tomorrow and keep it, of course I would. I don't know, man, I just when I was in Japan, nobody had guns and um. But Japan is a different place. It's not driven like America.

They don't make poor people feel bad for being poor. America has this horrible way, and I mean the worst party is you know, like you know why I come from. It's poor people making fun of poor people. It's like this dude next door got some Jordan's, He'll be making fun of you because you got some box. And it's like you live next door to me, but we're taught watching to a whole another level than you are walking walking.

It's like, yeah, these shoes calls a whole extra seventy dollars, Like you live next door, I'm walking on air, you sponge pushing motherfucker exactly. You just got heels. Um. I think also to some degree that part of the American culture. It's become part of the American culture anyway, to where if you're poor and not in the process of changing that, that there's a certain circling of the wagons intellectually to

where it's perceived as an indictment on America itself. You know, if you're it's like, if you're poor, it has to be you wanting to be poor, because if it was you doing everything right and still being poor, then I have to go look in the mirror at this system that I believe in. And people in America do not like reconciling possible chinks in the armor of whatever system it is that they believe in, being economic or other. Um. Sure, sure, but I think it takes a lot of time to

make somebody be like that. You have to take a lot from people to really make them not believe in theirselves. They don't start like, let me not believe in myself. It's like like I got homies, you feel me? Who who? Like?

They have been rejected so many times that they don't believe anything good will happened for them and because their mom was on drugs and nothing good happen for them, and they can't even identify a success story outside of, you know, within their own realm of family or the one person they can probably don't want them to do with them because it reminds them of the times they weren't successful. For um, what's funny is even having this

conversation about economics. That's how I am with like gang banging and guns, like my little brother, like K is different, Like K got these fashionable guns where he got band downa wrapped guns and his gun has got a band downa print. He got this nice beam and scope and all his ship on here, and he got eight hundred dollar gun to shoot a fifty dollar nigga. Femi, Like you're gonna take a two thousand dollar gun to shoot a fifty dollar motherfucker. Whoever you shot, whoever you shot

ain't worth fifty dollars. That's how I feel about guns. I mean, and maybe the system has molded me into this way, but these dudes ain't really worth hum but the thirty snub at best. And that's me getting Actually, I could give somebody a gun to get somebody killed, Like I give you this gun if you kill this person, Like people not worth a thirty eight snub. If you kill a guy, you still have the gun. You're they're really only worth the cost of bullets, which has gone

away up now and now were the same side. Yeah, and it's like I was telling him, He's like, oh you got this or that, and I'm like, first off, I'm not shooting nobody with a two thousand notll a gun. I'm not shooting nobody with a thousand not a gun. I'm not like, you have to come into my house for me to throw away a thousand dollars or two thousand dollars on you. My brother, my brother, Moe got a judge. You know, judges ain't even supposed to be

around this motherfucker. He gotta judge the pistols that shoot, the gauges, the gage shells. And I'm like, man, who the fuck is worth you know, shooting with that motherfucker. He's like, oh, you know, I ain't gonnahoot nobody. I don't got guns that just look pretty. Every one of them pretty. Motherfucker's meant to shoot. It just depends on where we're at and what's going on. I got a gun that I ride with that's just for cheap ass.

Motherfucker's like, if you're a bullshit asn't it I could leave. My dad taught me this. I'm gonna lead motherfucker with you. This left three hunt a gun gonna wear your ass out. I'm gonna take it and drop it with you, so that way. The police don't even got to look for the gun. The bullets and the guns is right there with you. And when I leave, fear me. They just got to figure out how who who ship this was, And it ain't gonna be easy for them. Man. I

just don't understand. These niggas got guns they cast two thousand dollars. I just don't believe nobody worth shooting for two thousand dollars. That's like consider a wine connoisort collector. Now you might buy a Burdeaux or whatever it's a hundred and thirty years old for twenty five thousand dollars. It's to show off or resell for thirty five tho dollars. And that's my point. I don't that guy's drinking fifty

dollar bottle caber name. If I got a gun that costs money, it's at the house because if I shoot you with it, I got to be able to keep this. Ye See, the guns I'm riding a round with, they are super functional. I make sure they are all top dollar functional. But the ones at the house feel me dumb ones them is the guns that I got that means something. If I shoot you with I can still keep it because I shot you for sure, legally for me. But the ones I'm riding around with them all give

them to you, them all leave with the bodies. Shoot yeah, need these with the bodies. Throw the gloves out, the gun out, gloves here. All that's right there. I'm gone. I'm gonna do my thing. I do you ever leave the gun in the guy's hand with a suicide note? Man? I just I wish that that crafty. I ain't. What's funny is man? Somebody asked me about gang man. It was like, oh, you don't think you're wrong because you know you kill other brothers and blah blah blah. I say, listen,

none of this ship is discrimination. I'd be racist if I did to shoot black people too. I shoot anybody that threatened my livelihood. The police, I don't give about, no badge, no uniform, if if if, if my livelihood is threatened, feel me. Nobody's a butter bullets like, nobody's a butter jokes, nobody's a butter bullish man. Everybody can get the bullets out. None of my guns is racist. They work for everybody. They don't turn off for nobody. I just don't get you know the what why? Why?

Why do I know this right? And I'm not necessarily the most government type of person. I know that guns were given to the citizens to, you know, prevent tyranny. Why don't the rest of America notice, Well, ninety percent of America is a lot more passionate than they are educated. So whether they are advocate for against, oh, we gotta start the show. We started this show with people is more passionate than educated, for fucking sure, especially on that

kind of a subject. Most subjects ten twenty years ago, like when I was even in the nineties, is better. When they were doing the gun advocacy thing, the nr A will come out and blah blah bla blah blah, and then they're around a column by a kind of time frame. It was, well, you don't need a gun just for you don't need three rounds just for you know, gonna shoot a deer, as if owning a gun under the Second Amendment was to preserve your right to shoot

deer or two. Yeah, you don't need yeah whatever the funk gun if stone breaks into your house, as if the Second Amendment was written had nothing ever about protecting yourself from other citizens. It was always about protecting yourself from an over aggressive government. And I'll say this much like to be very honest. When I have got my COVID positive test last year, the um some doctor and and everything was so subsidized at that point that everybody

was the health department. So a doctor from Orange, from Orange County somewhere had called me to see what the status was on my symptoms. All these questions, and he's getting to the point where he's like, and I'm fine. At this point, this is like ten days out. I hadn't felt a symptom in nine days, so it wasn't like an urgent phone call. And he's walking me in the direction and I interrupted him. I said, it sounds like you're telling me that you're sending someone over to

the house to take me in to a facility. And he pauses and he goes, well, what we'd like to do is and I'm like, oh, that is what you're gonna do. I'm gonna tell you a secret. You show up, somebody shows up here, I don't care how many of them there are, to pull me out of my bedroom and take me. I'm going to light your bitch ass up in the driveway and you can tell if this is a recorded call, play it back and tell anybody

else wants to hear it. They can hear it. You try to come and pull me into some fucking death camp like a leper, I will shoot your ass in the fucking driver. You don't even get to the door and hung up on his ass with none of that tyranny ship. Know. They called back ten minutes later like, sir, are you calmed down? Said I was calm before. Yeah, I meant it, And they go, oh, well, if you have any we have to illegally say that if you

have any complications to call nine on one. You called me to tell me that if I'm gonna die, I should call nine on one. Well, that's just great. One thing I tell you, real white folks do not play about that Second Amendment ship. They they really believe in tyranny. And I noticed that I was talking to my big brother Cam you know he um and know I they believe in tyranny too, like I think the most nation of Islam they believe in that concept too, of a

tyrannical government and tyranny. I think the average of mayor can doesn't believe that the government is tyrannical. They don't believe, and furthermore, they don't want to believe. They can't handle having to reconcile that reality of something that that of their You know, it would be like you have a comfort blanket and you realize, oh my god, my comfort blankets made of some sort of fabric that gives me cancer? What am I gonna do? That's a lot to like.

I can't live without my comfort blanket, but I don't want the cancer. How do I handle this? Ask my home girls? Share you. I grew up with she just the government. She just like the government. We have to pressure the government. I'm like, the government is not here to help you, Like, that's not their job. The government is a business here to make money of you. It's like your boss at your job is not here to help you. They're here to help you if you're giving

them extra money. It's nothing personal. I I get it. I get it. I totally understand it. Um, I totally understand it. I do UM. It makes perfect sense to me. Um. Do you think it's gonna be criminal charges filed in that case right there? For Alex Bawen, not against obviously, not against Alex bawen. That's gonna be really tough. I think there's gonna be a serious investigation to determine if

there was some sort of funny business going on. There's a history in this country of union, you know, shenanigans like I don't know who calls what Maybe he calls the shots is the wrong framed reference, But I don't know who makes the decisions and how that chain of command works. But when somebody randomly gets shot in the middle of a labor dispute involving unions, there's always gonna be, you know, some stuff looked into. I don't know what

will come from that. Probably nothing, but definitely is gonna be The civil suit is going to be a slam dunk, no question, Um, I don't. The only thing I could think if you have some sort of criminal negligence would be whoever was in charge, if it was people in the chain of custody of that gun that weren't supposed to be in the chain of custody that gun because of the labor dispute, and executive producer A said, funk it, we're on a schedule. Put him in there, and that's

what happened. There could be some potential criminal liability there. I don't know if you could have somebody who's you know, it's like a like like for example, they have the change, the the ports all backed up, the supply chain. Is you if you grab some guy who doesn't have a commercial driver's license to fill a need, an urgent need, and he goes and drives the truck over a five year old, I mean, yeah, who do you who? Are

you really mad at this guy? It's like, this guy couldn't drive, Why did you throw him in the car. It's crazy to see how they really be penny pinching for these films. Yeah, they just don't want to pay. Oh, they want to pay. I mean they just only want to pay Alec. Alec probably got twenty for that and some other guy got, you know, twenty an hour, and oh man, that's fucked up. Damn. They talked about the erosion of the middle class in this country. It's happening too.

It is happening. Um, if there is a gun you wanted, what's what's your dream gun? I know that's just a We just talked about what's getting knocked off? And what's your dream gun? There's a gun I want? I forgot what it's even called. Um and there aren't a lot of them. They're like a couple of thousand dollars. I want a gun that's a legitimate, um, a legitimate big game hunting rifle. I did want to go up at some point, um my boy big ccona down as a

talking guy from um Hawthorne. My dad's got the house in Idaho, and you know, elk hunt. Think it's a big thing up there in the season. People eat ilk. Oh, it's so fucking good. All right, see you with that buss ship. No, no, it's likely for the pump me up and then I'm no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that will not happen. It is exceptional. Like, have you ever had this? Bison? Good? Have you had bison? Yes? Yeah, bison is real good. Okay, so I'm not gonna like it.

I don't like all muscular meat. True, it depends on how you cook it. Um, elk is gonna be much more than a cow. Yeah, but it's not enough fat on there. I've had this. It's nice, man, It's it's really really Bison tacos ground ground elk tacos. You could do anything like that because you could throw some butter on it seasoned up or whatever, you know, but you just like the taste of elk. But what's the gun? What kind of gun is it? It's um god, I forgot what. I can't come with the damn name of it.

But there's a few. But I want something that that does that, that also has a semi automatic you know, clip capacity to where if I needed to use it, you know, to shoot multiple rounds instead of like you know, helk, you can shoot one. But I want to be able to have a you know, semi automatic situation with with with like a you know, three oh eight something like I see something like that double A twelve for me? Yeah,

have you ever seen the double A twelve? Bro? When I tell you this shotgun is the greatest shotgun ever invented. It's unbelievable. And somebody asked me, like, who would you shoot with that? And I'm like, well, I don't know, but it's better to have it ready when it's time to shoot that motherfucker than to need it and not have it. Yeah. I don't think I buy guns, and I've never bought guns for other people, not father. I know that sounds crazy. I always bought guns from my protection.

And I would protect myself from anybody, you know. I mean, so I never even as a gang member when I was in it every day and just it didn't matter like whoever, like, and I wasn't gonna shoot you just because we got into a fucking fight. But you know, I'm gonna stay alive, and I just don't know what I'm gonna be up against. And and it's just crazy. I don't know, man, It's it's we're in such a

strange time. We're in such a strange time and to watch people, you know, only stare at the what like you know what I mean, Like I'm such a wide person, Like why you men? I don't like we're gonna blame guns. We're not gonna talk about like I agree with you that society is eroding and people are finding any reason to harm other people. And it's like, well, you know, let's take away their tools. It's like, bro, like you can't take away that kind of tool, Like even if

they didn't have no guns. They were board an airplane, get the pilot out of the cockpit, take over the airplane, and crash the airplane into buildings filled with people. Yeah, can we actually start to deal with what's wrong with human beings. But then you gotta look in the mirror, and that becomes the problem. And who really wants to

look in that mirror? Nobody? And like, to be honest, if if the skies opened up and God came down and said, I can sure should guarantee you at ten o'clock tonight you're gonna be mortally injured, I'd be like, well, can it at least be shot? Yeah? Like I would like every other way to have somebody do that kind of damage to me. If you had to go, if you had to pick a way to go, it would be shot. Not like the best way to die, but the best way to be killed by somebody else. I'll

take shot. Stabbing is bro the type of nigga you gotta be to actually stab someone to death. I mean, not like slicing. That's like a defensive move. He's slicing. Stat like to poke somebody Like I gotta o, g hummy, who poke somebody in front of me and stabbed their ass and just looked at them in their eyes till they fell on the ground and the person didn't died. But I was like, I never looked at that nigga the same who the fund stabbed somebody? Nig Who are you, Jason?

Who the fuck is stabbing niggas like that? Deep in that turn and really, I mean just looking into their eyes while they're falling down, and what the fund did that person did? I ain't never want to listen. That's like a Michael Jordan of gangsters. That's like, this is this isn't about winning, this is about beating you. I don't even know, bro. That ship is like some horror

movie ship. That's Jason. That's Michael Meyers who stabs people who like, Okay, you slash somebody, but like you gotta be an evil mother, you know, Like that's like walking up blowing somebody's head off. I really want to shoot you, Like something about you being alive was a threat to my life. To stab somebody. That's you're getting into that crime of passion territory. Yeah, Like I would be crying. I want to meet a nigger who who killed twenty

people with a knife. I would like to hear about somebody who like, and I'm sure it's probably not that hard to locate a person, but you kill somebody with a gun on the outside, you gotta go do time on the inside, given the reality of constraint of resources. Yeah, like you did both. What's it? What's your take? Like if you got out somehow next year is shooting somebody like eating the sandwich now because you made some like piece together odd knife object in jail and just carve

somebody in half with it. I mean, like if you could do that, you I think if you use knife to kill people, bro, you're a serial killer. Like not if you use guns. If you use knife, bro, you're a serial killer. All respect to sut of samp. Yeah, the only pistol serial killer I've ever heard of. You need a therapist. I don't know, Like if you before you might after you need If you kill motherfucker's with a knife, you need a therapist. You need a real

You have social issues and you need a therapist. Who the funk walks around stabbing people, bro? And don't let me wrong In England, you know, I get it. In New York, New York, you know it's Buck Fitty Cabe slash ship out you and England they're gonna poke you. But these are gang wards. But you just walk around just stabbing motherfucker's. Bro. You that means you close up on them, like you actually touching them, Like I don't care what nobody to say. Shooting somebody close range is

still different than stabbing the mother close range. Like I could shoot you close range, your blood ain't gonna get on me. You just shot feel me your mother stabbed you. That means I was touching and finessing your body out. Now you don't have to feel the risk the same way you get to stab somebody, you gotta you gotta commit, got to overcome commit. And and lord knows the type of people who are like you see in the films, because who like you grabbed the back and push them

more on your knife. Yeah, knife, like you're gonna bear knife and you ain't gonna make a sounds. That was like what was a cold stabbing? What was that movie where the white dude got the he was driving drunk and kill somebody in the car accent and they had to go They send him like upstate and he turned into like some shot collar or whatever the hell he was up there, but he got out and stabbed some guy.

But you're like tagging, like huged him, like pinned them against the wall and like just poked him up through through the through the lungs, through the back seat. And I get that. I get that too. I get that if you're in prison and y'all that war, you gotta poke them on fucking cool. I I even understand that that that's much. Yeah, that's a that's a digestible thing. But like you own a street with guns, and yo, yo choice, your your weapon of choice is like, let

me stab him. You need a fucking therapy, fucking hug because you straight choke somebody to death just bare handed. Yeah I could do that, but stabbing as much. But but just bare hand, just just just the life right

on out of somebody. Yeah, because I can see my situation being in that like, because okay, what I like if okay, if I got into it with a nigga, excuse me, I hate to say, because then they make it if I got into it with another human being, because if I say nigga, most people think a black person, and that's because they're racist. What audience probably knows you

just mean probably any human meaning, I mean anybody. Right, So if I have an issue with another human being and I feel like my life is in danger and I need to take them out because they're threatening my livelihood. Who am I? My existence? My weapon of choice is not gonna be my bare hands. Now, if I'm in a movie theater and I see that person, maybe I go put him in a choke, you know, headlock and choke his ass out, you know what what I mean. But I'm going to choose that's real hired hand type of

tactics right there. Like now, see that's the thing, getting somebody killed. It's cheap when it's a gun. I don't even know what you would have to pay somebody to Look, if you kill them, you need to do it with your bare hands. Who the fund is that hit? Man? I do it off shore. If I had a private jet to get back, you might get fucked up though you imagine you Pete, I'm like, man, I got a hundred thousand, you gotta go kill this dude that's six ft.

You gotta kill Randy Ordon with your bare hands. It's not taken. Now. You wouldn't offer that to me. You you'd be like, go put Biden out of misery. Like I could pull it off.

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