Conversations About God & Satan

you canceled. I'm not worried about getting canceled. I brought you on purpose. I don't think your views is that controversial. But that is just me. You know, you don't run America. That's true. That's true. All this ship you've been taught me. I'm just not worried about when you're getting canceled. Um, I don't think you'll views that controversial. I think your views it's just backed by science, and I think science has always been controversial. Yeah, science and history, science, history

and nature, which makes the truth controversy. That's what hurt, that's what that's what's called hate. If the truth ain't on your side, and you're gonna get called hate hater. So facts and lines can be whatever you want them to be. They're great. I always say that lives bring people together bread the pressure of a live conversation. So no sailings glasses. Peter, my big brother, Cam up in the spot from wats the the wass Legend, the East Side Hero, east of the One Ti and the Savior.

I brought him home because I was having a thought yesterday. Um, we did a podcast and I was having a thought like, right, and you always you almost like my therapist, because everybody else makes me think I'm crazy, even though to me this ship don't be sounding crazy, But everybody else think I'm crazy. You, Impete, are a few people who don't think I'm crazy. Perhaps we're crazy, and that could at least I'm not crazy alone, right, So I was saying, right,

so we won this company. There you go. That's all that's the human thing. Um. But when I say it's a thin line, like I was thinking about that concept, it's a thin line between love and hate, right, So that means it's a few degrees of separation, right, I

think that's true for good and evil. That's what I was tripping off of and we were talking about Satan right, was talking about the concept not right, so most people use it as a now, so we're talking about it in the sense of a now, whereas God and then the relationship with man and Satan. Right, obviously we we we know we know the body of men exactly what that means, but that's not the point. We just the concept, right, and this individuality the popular concept. Yeah. Yeah, that that

that people love to you know, it's easy to digest. Um, that's the mystery concept. Yeah, you gotta leave mystery. You need mystery for people. You know, they don't know how to you make it too straight up, they don't know what to do. Um, there's no wiggle room. Yeah yeah, yeah, provides room for interpretation. That's true. Facts, Facts hold you and it enables those lives that bring us all together. I did a lot of homework on Christianity and in its origin, you know, like how do you know the

councilor not? See how they came together. And I always like to call it the greatest marketing meeting ever because they understood how Jesus needed to be marketed to bring people together. Right in the concept and how they added certain things into Christianity right to make people feel more invited. So as much as it probably you know, it's some

questionable things about it, I guess I get it. I mean, if you need to be down with people that much and you don't want people fighting, I guess you tell them to lie. You tell them. I don't know if I don't know if I would do the same, I'm not. Actually I won't do the same, But I get why other people do it, you know, I mean, people want to have peace at all casts, even if it means deaf to everybody. They're just like motivation, you know that might not be the motivation. You ever seen the movie

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It kind of lays out, um the first the first lines that were ever told and why they was told, and you know, yeah, it's it's it's dope. I ain't gonna give it away, but when you get check it out. So, but I want to I want to talk about that thin line and between good and evil and what satan right, right, And it's that's the point. People don't think it's a thin line. They think that they think it's like a

hundred yards. Yeah, you know, it's like, oh, this ends on this ends on that ship at the fifty that ship might be the forty nine and the other forty nine, right, you get what I'm saying, Like, m So at that point, evil right, the way we use it today has to be completely off course, Like it don't make sense because we try to identify so easy and it couldn't be that easy to identify if it's that, if the line is that thin, like like love and hate, it's for me,

it has to be a little bit more complex. And that's that's if we're gonna get into it. Then yeah, it's because of the ignorance of the masses, because we're not scientific, analytical, analytical thinkers. So the best perfect example for me that that jumps out to me. Is electricity Like these these wires that we're talking on right now, it's two of them. One of them is called a positive wire, one of them called a negative wire. You'll

speak emotional religious language. One of is a god righteous wire. One is an evil wine. No, it's only too to complete the ground wire. Is something else that's that's negative, you know, but it's only two Like you gotta extension cords. You're plugging the two lug only got to you know, two problems outside of the Yeah. So if we're ignorant and childish and and uh traumatized at the same time, then somebody can teach us that that black side, that

black wire over there, that's called the negative. That's the devil. That's the devil wire. Like, but they both are necessary to complete the electrical circuit. You wouldn't have no power around his mother if if they so, How evil is the negative wire? You know what I'm saying. I don't think it's even at all. If you feel evil when you stick your finger in it and shocking that that's where that's what evil really means. Does it hurt you?

Can you know how you know if something hurts you then it's evil is bad like that Black Sisters girls. He hurt you girl, He ain't no good, Like wait a minute, you need your as well, like you know that. I get what you're saying. No, that's fucking fire. But I realized that, right, But I ain't talk about physically neither. Not no, no, no, no, that's I'm talking about those Listen, ain't there physically like a gonna be y'all know not. He ain't talking about already that. Yeah, you already did

that conversation. So we're the big gott So look so um, I realized that right when I was studying marketing, Like right, so the last you know, nine years, you know what I've been going through just trying to put it together. I feel like, when you're real winning this game, nobody's gonna do nothing for you because it's a it's a different kind of threat. It's your threat to the economic structure. You're a threat to control. People can't control you. Yea,

I respected, I feel it. You know, if I was a mark, I wouldn't probably put on a real one. Need feel me. I don't want this man to you know, I don't know because I don't know what I would do. I ain'ty more, but I get it. But what I was, what I realized was when you come from the streets and you in this hip hop ship, right when you're in the streets, you don't give a funk with nobody even think about you. All right, I'm gonna do my thing whatever y'all think, what y'all think. When you get

into hip hop, you automatically want people to like you. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's as Achilles heell some of this whole thing, right. So what I realized was, and I tell Head this all the time because I think Head shout out to DJ Head, my nigga, DJ Head shout out to DJ Head. I tell Head this all the time. I say, your problem is you want everybody to like you like you only want positive reinforcements. There's no power in that power

requires like in my race Car or low Rider. It's a It's a plus and a minus, and honestly, the minus is more important. Yeah, the greater the resistance of the opposition, and it's going to force you to the positive to come out stronger. So I realized, you know, hip hop in its true essence, that's why I was so powerful because to a group of people it seemed negative, but it was routed. It's so much of our our truth. We didn't see it. We saw it as positive. Somebody

was finally expressing how we felt. You know what I'm saying. But the opposition of the world, Yeah, I mean, because it was the opposition of the world, y'all had to go through the opposition of the world. I saw it as negative. So that meant the ground was that much harder. So that's why certain artists really were able to conjure up so much power. Yeah, you get what I'm saying. Yeah, it's something like you're saying, though, like like the devil

quote unquote, devil is priceless. We wouldn't we wouldn't get as far as we we are. You know, we're talking all religion. If it ain't no such thing as there's only one creator and that's God and God is only good and this is not, then how the hell the devil get here? Then you gotta look at Okay, well, the devil didn't create his or itself or whatever it is,

and God, God created the devil. So now you got to ask that mature ask questions about God, like you know what you want all the evil and all the stuff we hard movies and all the stuff that ever happened to Yeah, especially Christianity. So if Jesus supposed supposed to conquered Satan and all that two twenty one years ago, and then we just went into slavery like four hundred years ago, So you know that's the reward, don't I'm a conquered Satans or let let my nigga brothers go

get the worst treatment they ever had before. Like you know what I'm saying, how is that? How was Jesus in power if that's what he's doing with his power? But see, but that's also why I questioned. I look at the New Testament and I feel like, is niggas that's righting gospel that didn't even know because that didn't even know that. It was niggas who knew other niggas that was writing gospels that got told the story and wrote a gospel based off that nigga story. But that's

that's all. That's all religions though, all religions is basically here say nobody, we wasn't there. That's how you gotta you gotta be called a believer because you were out there. But I want to believe some of the gospel are related to some of the niggas that was rocking with you. I'm not saying that, but you're still at the mercy of kind of like here, say, anything could be stepped on a little bit, hitting hitting figures or whatever. They're trying to get to the moon or something, but half

a point coordinate off. That's how it is with information. But but I'm saying even the Bible itself right now, the ideas some of the people. So no, I'm saying it's all here safe, but I'm saying, at least they acted like they knew Jesus. It's gospels of people who for sure didn't know Jesus that was born after the time that got How do you even get play in the book you wasn't even around. But they do that in Islam. You know, I'm in the nation, like they

do that in the Islam. And they do that in junior. Like imagine somebody talking about like he's writing a gospel on the honorable Elijah Mohammed, but he was born tomorrow. I'm not knocking it. I think that's a certain omas to greatness, right. But I'm saying, but I want to see if we're gonna write a gospel on Nipsey, that's the gospel on Nipsey. I want to hear from Cobby, I only from Stone. I want to hear from Rock. I want to hear from all the people that's around him.

I don't want to hear from some dude that new uum Sam. But you're going you're gonna have to do that because that supposedly happened to millenniums ago. So you ain't gonna on nobody that that talked to, such as said, they've been there for two thousand years. So everybody that you every story of history. But what wasn't that when when they was author the authorship I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about the authorship. But that's why I think I get confused, because in the authorship right of the people that was available right that that wrote, there was other books available that seemed more contemporaneous. To borrow a term from the man, but it's more time all right, time time sensitive tensitive like that was back then, but it didn't fit the same narrative that they wanted to carry with the marketing. It brought questions feel what I'm saying.

So back to the point thin line, like I'm saying, why like that means we have to be missed what's evil? Then that's my point? Is my take on God is satan? Sure, the concept the concepts, like I think a lot of people who are religious people are very very strong people, but I think the concepts behind religion defining decision making is the lowest common denominator method for weaker people. It's not like even when you were talking about the negative

seems evil when you put your finger on it. You put your finger on you know, it's it's governing choices. It's a it's a means to externalize responsibility for a lot of people, or to say, like even on the positive side, well it's in God's hands so things will be better or whatever, versus like well you know the devil made me do it. Don't come down too hard

on me, you know. So the line can be thin when it's largely at least in my opinion, a creation of the mind and and everything is like we were talking about this positive negats even like like molecularly there's three pieces in the atom. But when you look at most things in life, there's two political parties. Most things are buying theary there's two brain hemispheres, two eyes to nay so, and how close together are they? And how you know you can be slightly more genders? So you

got it's more it's more buying it. It's more duality thing than than there's two sides to a DNA helix, you know now, So I think I think the touching on what you're saying is, um, what is the relationship between pain and survival? You know what I'm saying. The pain is necessary because if you didn't feel it, then you would get killed easy, Like you wouldn't even know your hand is burning up and you'd be dead soon

like so, But but pain hurts. Pain's relation to fear and fear and to evil, like like we like pain anything, we're gonna associate that with evil just means but threat to your survival. But I think that's the false portrayal of evil. It's something based off a conversation we have. I'm gonna bring you back, make a tooth down before a TapIt bro right. I was talking to you about if God is love, the opposite of love is not hate. They're in the same car the first cousins. It's a

thin line between love and hate. And we was talking about it. I said, so, big bro, what's the opposite of love? And we're talking about indifference and I said envy. Oh yeah, you said envy. Envy is the opposite of the love. That's the point. So at that point then we both could really agree, right, because it's only a thin line between love and hate. It's a thin line between good and evil. Satan couldn't well, maybe at that point it ain't that well, I mean, it is God's

at that point, it is created by God. At that point, it was created by God, Satan. But then you have to, like I said, we have to be mature enough. Now get into the mind because, like like I said, in in the Nation, we're not talked talked about spooks and fairy tales and ghosts and all that. It's about human beings and and science, the science of why things are, how things are. You know what things are, so most

of us. If you've been a slave and you ain't been able to read and shipp before one of the years and getting raped and beaten, then somebody telling you this is that, this is what God is, and this is you know, don't question it either, Like like you know what I'm saying, so our concepts is going to be deeply re ruded. It's gonna be highly charged with emotions. We're gonna hold on. We're gonna hold on because it's

real love. Your grandmama taught it to Your mama taught it to put that shi on her breast and told they taught by even though that they was they was just seve trauma, trauma, the love that was real, but she bringing some poison, uh, falsehood in with that that love milk. It's like it's like a young mom who don't know better feed their baby happy man exactly, you're killing them or getting the vaccinations. And you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I shouldn't have said that. Well you

can add it that out, you know I'm not. But the point though was I'm backfellas you just put the head falls on the turn of volume down. No, I just didn't want to make sure they when you say hearing when we get canceled, I don't want to be room no, no, no, I need to get all this this is great so so, but I'm saying by that point right, just in ideals I'm not crazy when I say it's not God versus Satan. It has to be

saying versus man. We to degreed the average man who don't got this ship together, right, he has to be so far away from that whole energy in general. Right, He's what's in the other is zone. But I'm just saying, what if what if God is man? Like, how can it be go? I'm saying Satan, you know, but let's say for for that for that express right, the man that has that's putting this stuff together. So so this

is limited. So let me just lay it out like all a god is a god is just a human being that's superior power and knowledge, wisdom, understanding, force, power, knowing how to apply knowledge. No, no, yeah, will, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So it's just like a wizard or something like you could see Harry Potter or whatever.

He's a really a little scientists and she just because they got a little stick, that stick means something, Okay, was actually conducts thought wave and like you just have to know, just like we're talking on cell phones and all of that, and what they didn't pray Jesus prayers that Jesus didn't put these mothers together. Like you know what I'm saying, somebody actually like cracked open, you know, but by that same standard, right, by that same standard.

So somebody that's that, you know, focus on I hate that damn phone. Somebody that's that focused on figuring out the knowledge, the wisdom, doing all the homework, doing all the studies right there and that end zone, right, Um, Satan is on that, TWI Satan, he's on that, on that scientist knowledge. It's not that farn So that means the brother who is refusing that same information would have to be another is it? So that person it's not even that he refuses. He might have been deprived. I

was just telling him that in the last podcast. I was just saying that, like, but I'm saying, the ones who know yeh see, the ones who know, right, the ones who know what like, who know the information is there, right and they just refusing for whatever reason. Ok, that's not the willfully ignorant there, you willfully ignorant, not not the traumatize ignorant, not the willy traumatiz you know, like you got it. The ones that willingly refused that they

are traumatized. They're traumatized I think so, yeah, definitely. So do you think the pressure is traumatized at that point, the oppressor is traumatized. You're talking about that the top oppressor, because we become oppressors. Let's break I just I just I swear it. I just said that to him on the last part. I was like, I was old pressent before. Yeah, I knew I was. Once I realized I was, I was like, okay, I can't do this, but you but

you you locked you you learned that from you know, superior. Sure, sure, but I'm saying once I realized what it was, because he the person who I would even learn it, don't see himself that way of course, Like he literally was like, yeah, I'm trying, blah blah blah. Like me, I was able. And then when I want to explain it to him, either he could have remained willfully ignorant, but he did change his life, so maybe he even realized it. So so now that's a difference. So you know what the

leech is, right, or a parasite tape burn? They don't. They don't. They don't see themselves as killers. Their nature is I have to find a healthy asshole and stuff their blood. You know what I'm saying, and they're not like I'm I'm a devil, I'm an enemy, Like this is just the nature of what I do. But that's how I feel about o G. Hommies that grew up where we're from, that's getting their money and using people

that's trying to get some money to do it. I genuinely believe that they are so trauma to eyes in their mind that they like, well, I'm stuck here, this person is stuck here, and we're gonna get money together. He's gonna make sure I'm not make sure he eating at whatever. But I also feel like that, that's what I said. I feel like that about evil. I think evil is like not as simple as we see it like it's it's a it's a wilful desire to ignore

what's right. To me, that's the closest thing to evil, a wilful desire to go if you don't know what's wrong, it's different, you know what I'm saying, Like Satan, the concept of Satan knows God right. Concept Satan is different from devil, So you're right about it. So the concept of Satan knows God willfully ignores what he should do. That's what makes him, that will make him evil to that concept. But he's also aware of good. So somebody

who's not right aware of good, it's different. It's like I say, what extreme capitalism right, regular capitalism is one way right? You you don't know, Maybe you wasn't taught that if you try to have too much, somebody is not gonna have enough. Right. So what people tend to do right and stay ignorant. But when the day you are exposed to what you're doing, and it starts Oppenheimer, um atomic bomb. His idea was positive walking into it, but once he realized that he created something that was

so horrenderous, he got out of the business. It dropped from crazy like it just went all the way back. You get what I'm saying. So I think even would have to be a desire to willfully ignore what's right. Yeah, and and and my view, um, like you said, coming back to the god devil thing, it really come back to creation, the science of creation. What what are these

forces necessary for? You know what I'm saying. So everything like if you're breaking if you're breaking the law of inertition, if you you know that's that's really an act of war. Like if the darkness had feelings, it'll be like what the are you doing? Like you know, like you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. You just out of dark? Yeah, with some light now you know what I'm saying. So that's war, you know what I'm saying. So creation growth is actually war. That's why I say

no pain, no game like that. But but I've never felt I've always and people always told me I was crazy, but I've always embraced pain. I feel like it makes you. It's the closest thing. You feel like you alive for real, like you you feel like you're alive. Like growth is uncomfortable, Yeah, definitely, you know what I mean. So I've always embraced pain a little different than most people, right, but it never felt evil. And I agree the natural human mind, right,

most motherfucker's pete pain that shi is evil. It's like, no, you just uh pussy like just it's like calling the rain evil. It's like because you enjoy the sunshine and you feel like the sunshine is good. The rain, No, it's they're both necessary. Neither is evil. Obviously, the combination works together to create power right to grow plants right, you need water from rain and sunshine. So I feel

like the theory of Satan is so falsely portrayed. Like even if just like we see pictures of the concept of God, right, which is ill, Like I think that's cool. But the problem is, even when you see pictures of Jesus, it does not look like the book. The book. Yeah, the book has like a picture. They like tell you things about the picture and then you're gonna pay this pale man that looked like you in the picture. And

it's like, so y'all just okay, y'all getting up. Not to change the words, they changed the world, I'm saying, but why didn't just put blind man with blind hair, white man blind? Well, you know it's in my opinion, I think it's um on the job, not on the job training. But you know, go ahead, you know, change it as you go, because if you already feel like we got these niggers sold under our thumb, you know what I'm saying, and we ain't letting them read the book.

You know, we know this ain't gonna last for ever. Just like um the original coin, you know, instead on the back of the coin of America, instead of instead of the capital building or whatever that is they used to have. They used to have a scene of Moses in the Red Sea and part in the Red Sea. And I think I've seen so that means that the founding fathers and all of that, they knew the prophecy of enslaving the people for four hundred years and then

God is gonna come judge them. So they knew this whole little thing they were doing the black people was only gonna last so long. And they got it. They got it, you know, enjoyed it. Why or why they can get get as much as why they can because they was the temporary rulers, right, So that's a that's the thing that God, if you're going by the Bible, was said, let us God talk, let us make man in our image and give them the minion the rules

hands down. Yeah. I called you the first day when I was reading, because I was like, bro, let's say, are right? Yeah? And then I you know, some people try to tell me that was the Trinity, which is not in the Bible at all. That don't even make But I don't want to turn this into anti Just give me no sellings. I don't look man, whatever, make you get your life together, yea, even if it's a lie. But at some point you're gonna have to come visit that lit. But but until you get the time to

get the strength, yea, at least follow that book. Well, this podcast already got the strength. So that's like I'm saying, this might hurt you. This might not be for you. It might not. It's gonna hurt you to hear some of the ship truth hurt out there. Perhaps forego the bodyle right audio body which brings me to a pass on Sundays for sure, were definite enough to get donations too, Okay, Right,

So I brought young Broth happy birthday. So this motherfucker is the reason I haven't a port in thirteen years. I lost a bet. So let me tell you what's cold. You can't report for life. It was worst, let me tell you so no so so yeah, right, this is my big brother, this is little brother. It's my brother. Right. So they're both national Islam, right part of the y. Nobody told me that they know about Christianity too, better than most Chris way better, not even close. Right, So

we had Chili's, Me and Head at Chili's. We even Chili's problem probably was there shout out to pick people. So we're getting me and head would go to Chili's and get this crazy day had this thick ass bacon. It was like a Maplewood Bay fire fired preseason, preseason with with the sweat of with the sweat of the pig that could never be released. It comes so salty ready now I get it. It's out of the time slogan. We just didn't know though. He was, Oh, you know

it was flavored, man, bacon was so flavorful. You never season didn't never never doned, you never had the season make it. It comes flavorful sweat. But that's not the way. Look anybody that was released me it was so look. So we at the place and he's like, man, I don't know why y'all eat that fucking pork eat that funk. I'm like, man, why we ain't no fucking Muslim man? I like Jesus, nigga. It's like, oh, do you glasses? So I said, y'all like Jesus. I'm a fan of Jesus.

In that movement, he said, well, even Jim, you are supposed to eat porking that movement might be sound crazy. Why I didn't been to too many church things. They got all the pork chops and the ham and everything else. Popping what you're talking about, ain't you're supposed to eating? No damn pork? He like, if I show it to you, I said, I bet you whatever you want to bet? He said, bet you'll never eat it again. The King of the Jews was Koshure. The Koshures right right, you

think if you want to put it so? He was a coasture vulture. Look, so he said, if I show it to you, if I show you in this Bible. Hold, let me cut off this. Come. I don't believe in God, but I believe in ribs. Yeah, the mic for a second. I can slide that in the alright, so long story shut. So he says, if I show you in the Bible, he said, look, glasses, if I show you in the Bible where it says you're not suppose to port, would you stop beating pork bat I just knew it was

no way. I've seen entirely too many preachers. There's too many church functions, too many Sunday after brunches. Where's this pork chops and bacon? I said, yeah, if you show me for me, I won't eat pork again. This motherfucker flips the brook right to the page. Read this right here, blah blah vidics blah blah blah. Man. When I tell you, I looked, I felt so crazy. I was like, well,

why the fund is people even put? I got into this on a speaker phone with Tina Campbell from Mary Mary about how the Old Testament says you are supposed to eat shellfish, right, and then that whole New Testament Jesus. What he didn't say, what she didn't say, went to the new side of did not say to me and put on the new jerseys. He did not say to me and you that he for sure Jesus for sure didn't need pork. Not only that you cast demons into shrimp.

Definitely shrimp bacon rapture. They've never said none of that. People missed the point of what he was doing. It wasn't about this is. The point was to not think you better than other people. Here's people took it as I could eat pork. Yeah, they used, it's not what it goes in the mouths that defiles. That's not what that exactly what you eat, because it's talking about eating the words like suck. Sure, but it's a part to buy when he talks about I did this, Now, are

you better than me? Jesus? I think Jesus did this, but my point I forgot what it was, but I could be wrong with I lost the bet, so I have an important since and he's been clipping for Christ ever since. I've never because you were trying to move to Memphis. I'm still the house and Memphis whatever that's not port Corn. Yes, before I before I go back on the I gotta I pay. I gotta pay a bet on Tomahawks tonight. I gotta go to lock and Key and Downey and pay a bet in Tomahawks. I

paid my bets. I don't like losing. Yeah, I can vouch for him. You on up to that. I give me a man of his word. I give him that. I'm gonna bail him out. We're gonna configure some sort of a bet where if he wins or someone else loses, he can eat pork. Now. I never want to eat now. It messed me up because then you start exactly I think he did that on purpose, definitely, So then you

start reading. Then I started realizing certain things, and then it just got worse and worse and worse, and it's like, I'll never eat porking year me so, And don't get me wrong, porking is amazing, but preseason, just like everything else that's amazing, it's a messed up reason why you feel that. It comes pre seas you never had to see feel me. So back to the point, So, so a thin line right between So the point I was saying,

so evil, Well, so what's the opposite? So you said, n V, I say a difference like without care at all what I regard, Uh, what would be the what would be the literally like the like the literal difference between So what would be the opposite? So it's good and evil parallel? Or is that just like love and hate? Good and evil aren't like love and hate in the sense that I can see what you for a passion standpoint, the relation in the proximity of envy, hate, and love.

They're all near each other on the passion spectrum, and the differences on the other end, or righteousness and virtue and evil are on the opposite ends of that spectrum. It kind of depends on what where you're drawing the live definition. So, but but then that means at that point, So do you agree with that concept? I was saying, as far as like evil would have to be to willfully ignore what's right that you know is right, I would you have to know because it's not evil, it

has to be wilfully traumatized. Is not evil, but in difference will do worse. It's no. But before we go back to I don't want to go back to in difference because because I agree like love and indifference are literally in zones apart. They are world's apart. Feel me. But I'm saying, what if you love being indifference, m they'll just practice perfect practice. Makes I mean you mean I don't give a funk? You mean that expression? I don't get right. I choose to not give a funk.

That means you you love. I'm like, if I'm passionate about not giving a fun just because you're not the only thing that's the only thing consistent of cos so what I'm saying, so you're saying the person that's like walking by, so to put it in real life terms, a bum a man walking down the street with three hamburgers. It's only he only need one and see a bump and be like I'm gonna eat him in front of him and let him starve. Yeah, that's though. Is that

that's America? That had to be that. That's not indifference. Oh no, fuck, that's consciousness. So what is it conscious? That's evil? To willfully ignore? Was right? Yeah, but you couldn't really. Most people can only do that so much. Whereas if you think, oh, he's fine, he's taking a nap and just keep what if you just like, I just don't care? If what if you like, I just don't care if he see? That makes me think only the traumatized could think like that, I don't care. I'm

just I'm traumatized. Care. But there's a reason. There's a reason. It's always a reason. Yeah, So that's why we enter the science of the why Why Why is the best question you can ever ask, So you can always be like, why why why? So Satan has a why? Of course, So the win in the Bible would have been the envy he has right towards God's relationship with men in concept,

and it's the immaturity. So so like one thing about children, if you notice about children, children are basically evil, Like if you if you judge children by adult standards, like they're selfish, they're greedy, they're impatient, like you know what I'm saying, Like they just assholes. Right, but you can you can get away with that because you haven't lived,

you haven't experienced this. You don't you haven't developed this character or this like you know what I'm saying, childlike innocence, Yeah, exactly, but it's really evil, right, So if you're curious not a child? Yeah, Well, well, anytime you put an adjective in front of something, it usually means it's not that thing. Childlike innocence, childlike you turn you turn it down into

an adjective. Right. So so if if if we if, if we're taken old selves, you're talking about Satan and his problem or her or whatever you want to call it. So this ship got to come from trauma too. Well, it's not trauma, it's immaturity. Immaturity like you can buy the Uh what's your favorite fruit? Uh? You know what I'm saying. At some point, apples is bitter and hard. You ain't supposed to They're not right, you know what I'm saying. That gets you sick or whatever, Like you

know what I'm saying. But after time go by and then you know you've got a few sons in a few days, and you know it's a conversation of maturation. Yeah. Yeah, So if you expecting maturity out of immature products, then that's your bad really, like because okay, now I'm not I'm thinking that's evil, but it's my ignorance because I don't know yet that immature ship ain't ready for that type of you know what I'm saying. So all of

it is a science experiment, Like it's experiment. Like even even in my opinion, Satan's or whatever, they know certain things, but they still it's still experimentation, like you know, you can look at it it's evil like trying saw. But I was just having this conversation and I was telling him that's why I don't. I'm glad you said that. It makes me feel less crazy about people think I should be always upset, and I'm like, I feel bad for them because I know what they're doing is goofy.

They really don't understand, like they know what they're doing, but what's motivating them is something stupid and they don't know. But like I feel like it's a level of immaturity to a degree, So that makes sense for Satan to be immature, and then when we reference motherfucker's Satan to be immature. And if God is the creator, guy was here trillions and trillions or or whatever a time before

he even started creating a Satan. It's like you built a house, you know how much ship you didn't put through? I built the yard I got, I just laid it out and and then I have a son, you know what I'm saying, And he just like that's mine. And that's such a like like hold on, mother, like you know what I'm saying. And that is kind of description of Satan. And that's like the symbol isn't even of it. God is an old man depicted as an old wise right,

and and the devil is a young new whipper snapper. Mother. That's that's trying to be equal with God. Like hold on, do you know how much I just have to go through for you to run around this? You're equal with me now all of a sudden, like you wouldna be equal with me. So it's it's kind of that like it don't mean that like to Satan. Satan didn't know that, like you're my son, like like you're the son you're the son of God. I produced you so I can

give you this. It's the parallel of this. God is the rich old guy with the young trophy wife, and the young trophy wife is Man, and Satan is the young pool boy who comes over. And it doesn't mean that he's evil, means you chose the wrong dish. Wait till he pull out the driveway bull sparkling that you got it, got all the leaves out, Nero, What the fuck? I equated? I just said that was great, But I equated because so the lessons right that I get from

Big Bro is different. So I know to a degree, but because we're playing in this realm, I'll fit it into this model. I equated as God as this wise old father who has two sons, which one is older up to you. Maybe let's say Satan is the older son. Let's say Man is the younger son. I think that it can't be perfect, but roughly and you. I always looked at it like you have Satan constantly jealous, right,

he's envy. That's why I don't totally disagree with the opposite of love being envy, Like, even though they are in the same vector, I do kind of question it. But I don't know if Satan is just hate. I don't think Satan is like well technically yeah, because well that's crazy fun that anyway, He's constantly putting his man, his son, his his younger son, his younger brother in bad situations to make him look bad in front of God for a favor, even though God is so wise,

he like, I know what you're doing. But if you even read the Bible, like right in the Book of Job, Satan and God relationship gotta be real close because he had already been kicked Cus out and then Niggas is up there walking around a guy like what you're doing? Like, what's what you're walking around here? I thought I got rid of you, and God got in. Satan got him so worked up that he fucked over Joe to prove a point to this motherfucker m based on the book.

So that tells you the relationship and God is Satan got to be close. If if Cousin through that much ship to prove a point to this motherfucker. Job was his man. Job showed him love, praised him and all that. That was the whole point of story. Joe was God style man. Family did the right things and all that, and Satan came to God and was like, with the

only reason he's doing right because you bless him. If you didn't look out for him, you feel me, if you didn't look out for him, he wouldn't funk with you, he'd be doing whatever. So that's that's what you're thinking. Watch this killed the nigga wife. First off. Fuck Satan killed his kids, took his sheets, all that ship away, snapped all this the ship is life and he's still like Eddie Murphy movie How To One Dollar Back, probably

is named mort of her look so right. So he still praised me and God, like I told you, it is, Satan just left. So that tells me the relationship between God and Satan is a lot more complex than we want to give credus to it. We want to get let in credit. We don't want to admit what it is. It's not that far apart. So because God, well God, and we don't really have portraits of God, well it depends. In Christianity, Jesus is misportrait like it's it's false portrayals

of Jesus consistently. Why would there not be even if you look at pictures of satan. Right, it's like a funny looking beast with horns, like the most ugly ship you ever seen in your life. Nothing they talked about saying like a like Lucifer, like a beautiful angel, like even referenced, and a male figure as beautiful. Feel me? So what the fund is that you know? Something that makes sense? Because he's called the Prince of Darkness and you describe him like prince. Is that why Prince was

named Prince? No, that's his government name though he was born named princes Dang, I didn't even real Prince Nelson, Prince Nelson Rogers. That's not a bad idea, I mean, obviously not. Prince is not saying that Prince is some ship there. I ain't got a lot of now that you bring it up. Prince was some ship man. Prince used to have a lot of confusion in my life as a kid, I did not know quite what was going on. When I look at Prince, I knew he

was jamming, Yeah, Prince, I was at the time. I would go outside, bro, I'll be like, I go to like I go outside with niggas is hanging out. It's a bunch of niggas. That's like ain't bangers and killers and these niggas is playing Prince. I'll be like, this is weird because you know, as a kid, you look at Prince. It was on some nasty was who was playing because the females like getting nasty to No. I totally get it as a grown man, I played Prince

right now. But as a kid, you gotta think right when you when you're when your thoughts are pure and innocent. I'd be looking on TV like, oh, this don't look right, Like what is this? Nigga asked out any pen and I'm not and I don't want to just this ain't Prince slander. Bro. I'm just saying. I'm just saying when you look at you be like, like a girl, what the funk is going on? It's like a confusion, right, I would be he he had a song like what was

that song in my gadma straight controversy controvert. I'm like, the funks on the fund is going on? But Prince was and Satan was what in news? He was the say it was something in music like he ran the music or something red, something something ugly like he like, yeah, they keep portraying, they keep fastly portraying him. But I think that his his his attitude is ugly like meaning we become once you become rebellious, like you got an

ugly ass attitude. So that's and they paint, they're trying to like Picasso or whoever m Brand or whoever stuff that was painting that stuff. You know, they paint according to what the attribute attributes are or whatever. So if you're beautiful, a person is beautiful. A good son is an obedient son. An ugly son is a disobedient son.

So that and then the beasts, like with seven, you know, if you're praying on people and you're killing them, and you know, you're treating them like a beast of the field, and you know what I'm saying, you ain't got no human compassion. You didn't have to kill him, you know, you didn't even gonnat him like, you know, so they cold and heartless like a reptile like a bees, a snake or dragon or whatever. So they you know, I

think that's where the images came from. But then if they controlling somebody controlling the media and controlling literature and and telling the stories to your children at bedtime stories and church stories or whatever, that's that's how they get twisted. And we little so we're thinking once we see them pictures, Okay, that's really what it's like. Because Granny said, and Mama said, and you know so, but so one I would like to see like a portrait of somebody painting. That's best

version of They probably are portraits. He'd be dark, he'd be dark. Bough that's what that's what sucked up. So he's closer to a black man. And they and they according to their art. Okay, just like Jesus do both of them. But but but but right, but but um with with with satan? If okay, if somebody's doing all of these murders right now in our time, right, it's like this cold hardness murder murdering kids, six year old kids, right,

He's just murdering kids. That's just noting. He's a kid murderer, just some weirdo just murdering kids, just evil. And you paint a portrait of him, like you know, the wanted poster, and it's who he is on the inside. I might not know this motherfucker. I might not be able to

identify it. And I think that's why it's important for this conversation, so people can have identity of what evil is or what satan is because if it's that far away, because that picture is far away for what you should be looking for, Satan could be like Kim Kardashian closer if anything, you know what I mean, some ship that you would think that that looks appellance to the eyes

and could have. So I'm saying, like what I wanted to do with this whole podcast is just really bring more clarity to what should somebody be looking for when they say that, because again I agree with you, pain

assistently is mistaken as evil. Yeah, I was kind of going on the same thought, like I look at a lot of like the imagery and that kind of stuff with satan and sinning, that is it's an attempt to sway human choice into what is most like communally sustainable, you know, like it's sin is seductive, but it's not sustainable, Like you don't know that a drug is bad for

you until way down the line. Is a lot of people having a good time, They're having fun, feels great, all this stuff, And the same as true with say, if everybody sin with selfish at the expense of everybody else, society couldn't be sustainable. But it's so seductive that you have to paint the upfront superficial image as the back end result to keep people from going down that road

too far and not be able to turn back. Scientists bars Boars and I think, I think that the knowledge like truth, you know, truth is what the universe is built on. Creation is built on truth. It's not no falsehood whatsoever. So Satan's are wise enough to know that they know they have to use some truth and and

mix it with with something else. Even the story of Adam and Eve when you look at it and they talk about the serpent and that idea, like he wasn't telling a bunch of lies, right, right, it was just and and that's a good that's a good example. Like you know, don't eat from that tree, right, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. That's something that

we was immature to. He was inexperienced that I said, when you get a chance to check out that that movie the invention of lying, because that's how a person or people could take over the world. Because if if everybody in the world just by default they nature, we just tell the truth, no reason to lie around his mother, like we just tell the truth to each other or

whatever whatever. But then you know, a new people Adam come in and you know they don't they don't have the knowledge or the resources or the or the skills or whatever. But like a child, I want that now. I want that now, like you know, I don't get how long it take the bill, Like you know what I'm saying, what I'm gonna doing with that now? And I gotta wait that I can get it from him right now by called lion. I can I can tell a lie? Oh yeah, not even a lie. I just

don't got to tell the truth. Yeah, just don't. Yeah, imagine how the first person feels to watch that, watch that movie. The first person who's like that just fucking works. How the whole movie the white I just stand how great disease baking his noodle? Right, but look but the truth of it. But the truth of it though, like like without without getting emotional and ship, you know, Satan or devil is more closely in ligne with with youth,

like like young inexperienced. You know what I'm saying. But if you give a child a nuclear bomb or a gun or some ship like that, they can kill everybody nine times out of the thing. He's gonna suck something like you know what I'm saying, I don't know, right, but that's what God did. Though God did give Adam, you know, the nuclear codes and ship, but he when he was back there with the you know, break glass, like I can, I can, you know, stop this whole ship.

But I'm I'm gonna let him go all the way. I'm gonna let him run it fully express it. It's my science experiment, That's what I'm saying. It's science, not a right. But all the angels and all the people were less knowledge. They're don't they don't want that's feeling the pain of this ship. Like this science like man the theory. But but for God's for the guys, whether it's righteous gods or unrighteous guys. They're looking at that science.

That's why these these these top satans, you know, these elites, they're not backing up. They're not like like okay, we're getting like now, we're going all the way because it only makes sense, like you on each individual lifespan is only a few years anyway, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So it makes sense to me. I understand devils and Satan's or whatever, and I know that Satan's understand me that like any warrior, any warriors

gonna have mutual respect. Like if he's a wise but you do be wise. But no, you have to be a matured fighter. The average fighter does not go and watch tape on his opponent. When you become a consummate professional and looking to achieve greatness, you study your opponent. But if we always righteous for these millions and trillions of years, we didn't really we didn't really know warfare

to that. I don't know that, but that's what I'm said, for you to know your opponents because you have matured. But the opponent, I'm talking about it in this nature of a devil or Satan, they're the they're the experience. Yeah. Yeah. We would always tell my boy about cryptocurrency, right, I'll tell him and Metro And I'm like, the thing about that is you're fighting against a badass, motherfucking opponent. And what a lot of people ask always tell Meetro. Meetro like, well,

you know, I don't care. I'm like, you don't care because you don't know, So you just don't know how bad these motherfuckers you fight with, because ain't I'm not fit to gonna fight Mike type. I don't care how hard he hit Thain's Mike Tyson. Look, that's central Satan. The real Satan is undefeated. Yeah, gotta be took an undefeated I don't give what Christian, Muslim, Hebrew or whatever to this point undefeated record,