Conversations About Female Athletes

tell you is take Shot Sports. And you lived up to the name first. So this is no seilings, g l glasses low in my man, p B. Peter Boss. As usual, while we're doing well, we do up in this stag. So on this take Shot Sports. Right. Um. I was doing a podcast and they were asking me about the w n b A. And he's like, man, gee, what do you think about this? Just for the audience, what is the w n b A. The w n B as the Women's National Basketball Association. It's interesting, yes,

go on. So they were asking me what did I think was wrong with the w n b A, And I was like, uh, women don't support women in sports like they don't support women in sports. They do the worst job of supporting each other in real life, let alone in sports. Right, And it became this long conversation and then our like, it's like, what would it take to to um to get the w NBA to pop?

I said, you would need Lebron James to become a trans athlete and go over and become Lebron and James and play in the w n B A. It could be when he retires or whatever, but that's how you make it pop. You need a professional NBA player that somebody celebrated or just somebody who really people revere in in basketball and male basketball to go over. And long story short, somebody, one of my home girls see the podcast and she's like, oh, gee, man, you know you

don't have enough respect for female athletes. And I just start thinking about it, like, males watch the NBA. That's who drives the NBA. Men, correct, Men watch men play basketball because we care about what gifted athletes of of you know, the male species can do, so we we are intrigued by it. It It creates camparaderie, It creates a level of conflict that time, you know, it creates more excitement to this thing we call life. Why are

women not? Why do women? Why aren't women you know, more intrigue with women's sports because women aren't into sports by and large anyway, So regardless of who's playing, if you aren't into sports, it's not gonna make much of a difference. Unfortunately, I think maybe two of them, the two biggest gaps in the genders for viewership and audience stuff in sports is like the NBA and probably boxing.

You know you're not gonna get up women's boxing match is gonna do numbers like what Fury Joshua fight before he got next and he lost, was going to potentially do you know, I don't think it's and it's a big it's a huge woman's fight coming like in the next sixty days. Clarisias Shields, who's probably the best female boxer in the history of boxing. She's a two time

gold medalist. She's out of Flint, Michigan super those sister, two times old medalists, three or four weight divisions, undisputed in two like ship that has never happened in boxing ever. She's accomplished in less than twenty fights, right, and she's fighting the only person to beat her in the Amateurs a lady who's a champion I think at one sixty or one sixty eight named Savannah Marshall. It's a white

lady and it's a black lady. It's the exact same plot as the Great White Hype or the only fight that whichever ways it was that was playing the champion had lost us to the white guy back when he was an amateur. You know, they would do such a better job of marketing it. And maybe they are because the fight is you know, in England. You know, it's overseas because Savanna half of the billion. This it's not it's not touching a half a billion, it's not touching

a tenth of a half a billion. Well, I mean, it may say out though too this the rena over there. Maybe Okay, they're making some progress. That's the point I'm making for sure, for sure, you know, I mean, and and I am a treat like I'm going to watch that fight because again you're right, it is the same plight as as the gray Height where it's like, oh, this is the only person who beat her, and this lady, this is white. Savannah Marshall is a puncher like she's

not like Clarisian Shields is. She she's a good professional, but her style she's a little slappy and amateurish at times. I mean, not not forgetting that's wrong, because she's like literally the greatest boxer ever, but she doesn't it's not always a not a finisher. She's a point fighter, really good though, I mean, and she tries to person attention, but Savannah Marshall got stops and again we can talk about the quality of opposition she is as a pro.

But I'm in a rested in the fight. But I think these are the moments right where you have the right type of fights. Yet they aren't being marketed it. You know, they excuse they aren't being marketed as great as they could. Like this is a black lady from American a white lady from England. This has the makings to be brilliantly you know, big fight for women's boxing. But I just I'm looking at it and I'm like, yo, like you're not. Where is the magic happening? You know,

create the magic around it? Yeah, I mean this is the NBA pretty much created their whole status right now off of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. Yeah, yeah, it's that rivalry people. I think between college basketball and in the NBA and stuff. By the end of the seventies, we're familiar with basketball. People are familiar with boxing, for sure, but they're not particularly familiar with women's body thing. It's difficult to market an introduction campaign. Mm hmm. They still

still the fight, like, how is UFC? How is UFC able to you know? Market? Uh? What's the lady name? Who got all that creatively? Rhonda Rousing? I think that was in part she rode the wave of the ascent of the UFC. The UFC doesn't have like we talked about this a while ago, where in pro boxing, so many of the main big prime super fights happened past prime because the longer that a person is a star,

the greater the gravity of their stardom is. So you don't lose value kicking a fight down the road because the two people only become more familiar to more and more people. The UFC, it's almost like, I mean ship in my lifetime, the UFC has gone like just cycled through superstars almost on like a year, year and a

half basis. Other than that Irish guy who kind of takes time off and comes back, you know, like Chuckle Dwell was the greatest thing for like a year, then another guy was the greatest thing for like a year. You know. They don't have these five six, seven year long windows Superstar. The actual association itself is the star. Yeah. People are more fans of the teams in football, you know. And I think in UFC was became a fan of the UFC and whoever was on that was good enough

for them. So you think Rhonda Rousing really was just within the shuffle of them selecting somebody knew to get by on for a small period of time. Yeah. I think that there was a lot of novelty to the UFC and its growth, which is kind of what made

it popular, and then there was novelty within novelty. I think like right now, if if Rhonda Rowsey, say two or three years ago, if a if Rohn Da Rousey happened to in novel fashion come onto the scene in that in that regard, after the UFC was really established, people are really used to it and people were really fans and stuff like that, not just like wow, these people are beating the ship out of each other and not really knowing much about it. I don't think she

would have gotten much traction. Yeah, but isn't Amanda noon Ye is doing really well there now, I don't think she's doing Rhonda Rousey. Popular is definitely you know, an anomaly, you know, ouside, which is weird because Venus and Serena. I think tennis is more of a sport that people pay respect to women in. I think historically Now I don't quote me if you listen and it is. But I'm just going off a small recollection. I have no experience at this. I've never looked it up. But growing up,

I always remember female tennis players hearing names. It wasn't just ever about Arthur ash or you know, Andre Agassi or McEnroe. I will hear the women's names coming up and the sports. You know, Graph is a tennis player, right, Stephie Graph, Martina Ratalova, Chris Everett, Billy jenne King, all the way back. I mean, that's what I was saying. Boxing and basketball have the two greatest gaps. Whereas for for people who are tracking field people, there's no one

who's like a men's track and field fan. Only people like men's and women's track. People like men's and women's volleyball. Typically people like men's and women's tennis for sure, and even swimming to the seasonal Olympic whatever. People are like, I only want to watch the men's freestyle. They want to watch both. It's just basketball and boxing. Jo Jackie, Jordany Kersey and Trey. Yeah, flow Joe, the you know, all the crushing Joe or Jackie is what flow Joe?

She went to Jordan's she yeah, yeah, yeah. So so you're saying it's the sport itself that's holding women back in that's particular sport. I think that. So we've we've eliminated simply why women aren't into you know, w NBA. Why aren't the same men that you know just like me and watched tennis, you know, because I agree me and watch both right there, they'll watch Serena and Venus kick ass like they'll watch McEnroe or one of those kick as. It just came to me, here's the reason.

The w I'm sorry, the UFC had Rhonda Rousey and Chuck or was it lessner like the w W yeah or whoever? The star to you on the men's side

fighting the same day you saw them both. The w n B A is sort of like the USFL, they fight in another time of the season, so you have to be only a w NBA fan to be a w NBA fan, because they don't play at the same time, same day, same whatever as the NBA for the most part, whereas in basketball or and and and the events are shorter, like it would be a lot to ask to sit down and watch, like, yeah, like the final four of the n C Double A, We're gonna watch two games

of men's and then two games. That's a lot. But for those other sports, tennis is complementary because for tournament type settings, they're happening at the same time, so you can get Federer at two o'clock, you can get Serena at four o'clock, and all kind of works. I think that's part of it. I think another part of it, quite honestly, people are gonna like this. The U the UFC is a little bit of a it's a different

I think viewership, but it's an exception. But boxing and basketball don't showcase the women as men want to see them the way tennis and track and volleyball, do you know what. There is a bit of sexiness too, so when you see Serena Serena and then playing tennis, they do have shorter skirts. The things that skirts. They're rocking back and forth waiting for the surf to come through. Girls as a tiny little things getting in the blocks, and then they go to set and then you're running

around booties bouncing all over the place. It's a different scene than basketball, sure, and women wrestling is always hot. They grab they've marketed the catfight, and it's a fight. It's still the fight. It ain't. It ain't even even when it ain't, you know, bull popping out, it's still the fight. Yeah. Too much punch of each other, Okay, okay, so what would it take? So you so yeah, So you can't do the same day right because you're not gonna ask somebody watch four hours of hoops, right? Or

what if they broadcast right before a men's game. That's not gonna work because they're not possible because you could at least watch the fourth quarter of one going into the other the same way like the time slot thing helped friends being right before Seinfeld type ship. But I think the reality is you gotta put the w NBA players in the volleyball track outfits. It's the best chance they got. I know you don't want to hear it,

but that's just the best chance they got. I said, I mean, whatever the funk you want to hear, I'm just telling the truth. So the shorts are tightened though they're not tightening up. They're not short enough, and the tops is too bad. Okay. Is this chauvinistic? Absolutely? Is it realistic? Absolutely? So you have to cater to why men watch women, Yeah, because women aren't gonna watch women

with that. I'm not gonna argue with that. Because when you look at the best female basketball player in the w n b A, their skills are not as great as the best man. Their athleticism not even close their athleticism. They may be as skilled, but they're athleticism. We do watch the NBA a lot because of athleticism. It is a bunch of Superman's. Absolutely, there's there's a mystique to male viewership, to watching some guy that can do something

that you just fucking can't do. I don't think a lot of people watch the w n b A and go, wow, I just fucking can't do that. Sure, you know, I think even in reality, a lot of people could watch well Ship Shelley and Fraser Price ran at ten six. You know how many people can run a ten six men wise, not a lot. In the world of track, there's a lot, But in the world of regular people it's not a you know how many people can do a layup? That's facts. So so that's also why, um,

what's the leading name? Um? The tractor sister that run track. She Quarity Richardson. She is fast compared to the average human beings. She's fucking She's not fashion than all the women or all the men. She's still a ridiculously fast human being. Yeah, at this point in my life, I couldn't train to catcher. I don't think twenty years eighteen years ago. Yeah, if I made it my primary event and wanted to be a shitty hundred meter man, I could have catched her. But why like that? Huh you

don't really have respect for a hundred meters. No, I would love to do the hundred meters, but I could have, um, like my ranking and other events that I work were my primary events, I could be better than. If I was to be in the hundred, I could run as fast as she could probably run. But I'm like so insignificant. Oh fuck, Okay, what did you use four hundred hurdles and the four hundred like that? That heard of ship is crazy? Who was the best four heard of running

of all time? You would never believe it if I told her this story. It's it's it's so funny you asked for since was a guy who went to use to a m Kevin Young and ran seven and nobody could touch it, which is weird because six seconds for fours with hurdles, so a whole lap, a whole lap of ten hurdles and point seven seconds absolutely and hurdling Holy ship and Olympic gold medalists came and went, and there was like a twenty year gap damn near where

nobody even got under forty seven flat. And then two years ago three guys did it. Four guys did it actually in the last two years, and one guy last year because they had the Olympics delayed. This crazy, fucking lunatic looking white guy from Norway went forty five nine. It wasn't It was the most amazing thing I had ever seen. So he is now the reigning world record holder in the four hurdles and he's just like an adrenaline maniac. Never seen anything like him forty five nine,

and that's a quarter of them mile to long. Yeah, yeah, forty nine in an open is well, no, it's it's pretty good. Like it's I can't running the forty I mean I can't run, but I couldn't run forty nine when that was my primary event. What was what's the fastest in in the open forty five? I mean in open? Four oh three? Three oh three guy from South America? Good, yeah, closer to three, but yeah, like two point nine. And who was the fastest woman to run fo DS? Women?

The world record was just set again. This this girl who's American, has broken her own world record seemingly every time she's walked out doors for the last three years. And she's an unbelievable talent named Sydney McLaughlin. And she runs like fifty point five or six, I think was the world record. But the women's hurdles are also shorter, so there's that to consider as well. But even still a fifty point anything in the menuts hurdles, you're very

very good. And even if you're like if you're a fifty point four hunderd meter open runner in high school, you're pretty good. You're probably the best. When you're on your high school team, you're probably the best in your league, depending on the league that you're in in general speak in America. So let me ask you a question so I can say this easy, right, Colarisias Shields being the best woman boxer today could not be Cornelo Alvarez the

best mail boxer. I don't think it'd be very surprised. Um, she can't. I don't think the best you know, m w NBA player probably can be Jihan Is one on one or Kevin Durant or Lebron what it wouldn't make a team, couldn't make the league. Can Serena beat the

best male tennis player? No chance? Okay, I because people, I think even asked her that, and she was like, no, the and and she is even metrically And I'm not trying to say this at all because, like I just usually the numbers I'm gonna cite are largely served speed. But a lot of the gap between her service speed and other women's grades at the time we lived to male grades at the time is the closest, you know, I mean, like Monica Sellis, Martina Hinge is, Chris Everett.

I mean Chris Everett at the time would have been playing opposite probably born Borg. She wasn't serving anything remotely comparable to bjorn Borg at all. You're saying, you're saying she is the closest to her male counterparts, but it's still fall at least in ball velocity. Yeah. The the problem is I don't think that she's hitting from the baseline at the velocity, and she can't cover the ground as athletic as she is, and she's tall, she's five

nine five nine is really small compared to guys. Yeah, that's a good point. So is it really about or worth fighting? Like, because I've I've heard them yo bang the gong dog on on it, and I'm like, like, how do you make more money if you're not generating more money? Well, yeah, I mean it depends. Is a

battle worth fight? It depends on what the goal is. Yeah, is the goal for if the If the goal is to get equal viewership from NBA to w n b A, then you need to figure out a way to make an equal number of people want to watch by hook or by crook. You know it's not gonna be basketball. We've already seen that it's not gonna be basketball that's not in the film. Think they can have the same story as Magic and Larry Burg have to competitors that they bring up from college and create this rivalry to

have people tune in. I'm sure that there's a black guy and a white guy somewhere that are vuying to be the best car salesman in their zip code, but nobody cares. How you can marketing to where you can sell more cars. You could sell some more cars, but you're not gonna have the popularity the Magic had. I just genuinely think they don't support each other women. It's sports. They don't sports. Women don't support women. And you're walking around with a Sparks jersey woman, it's people who don't

play basketball that we're Lakers Jersey. It's guys who don't play basketball they where Lakers Jersey. But I've never seen a young girl wear Sparks jersey. Like, why don't moms buy their daughters Sparks jerseys for Christmas? Because their kids want other things? Probably, I don't mean you could buy a kid of Sparks jersey for Christmas. Doesn't they're gonna wear it? So you just think the whole basketball thing is a wash. I don't think it's a wash. I

think it's just more niche. You know. Sure, the percentage of like guys that are into sports, it's very very high. The percentage of girls are into sports is not so high. Would you say female tennis players are the most successful as far as all female athletes, Yeah, I think that. I think that's true. Um, like celebrated female athlete, more celebrated, you know, in America period than than uh Serena Williams. I don't think so. And and even from a purse standpoint,

I don't think so. Like even women's golf ever really got traction like that. Yeah, I don't think I really know any female golfers that that does seem A lot of them were like, we're like Korean and Japanese women and I'm not gonna this is gonna sound horrible. I can't decipher the one from the other golfers. I can identify Japan and Korea as countries, but all these different golfers they keep flying out here. I don't know who's

will Yeah, another if you have a female athlete. Women's soccer did fairly decently, but I don't know if that's only because men's soccer in America just did so shitty. Yeah, I guess that's the answer. As I went to a sporting event, l A shout out to the l a f C. Real great people over there. My boy watched sticks plugged me. I don't like watching soccer on television, but soccer is the greatest sporting event live I've ever seen. I could see that. It was crazy. Is I cannot

watch on TV? Is the most lame and ship in the world to watch on tell I'm not into it is just ship happening and people going back and forth. I like watching it when the Spanish announcers because they'd be so fired up that should be popping good and they But I've watched it and it was it was like, it's the worst thing I've ever saw on TV. Like I would rather watch baseball on television than watch soccer. But I've been to a baseball game, football game, in

the basketball game, in the boxing match. The soccer thing is the greatest ship I've ever been to, period of any large sporting event. Like it was fired up. They have a group at the l a f C. Right that's in the north side of the stadium and they stand up and go crazy the whole fucking time. That's impressive. It is like the greatest And I just was there like, oh, this is unbelievable. I was like, I need to be

a fan. So if you listen to this podcast and you got a soccer team in the professional Soccer League in America, you know, go to their game. If you're in l A or if you're in l A County or anywhere in southern California, make sure you go check out the l A f C game. It is the greatest sporting event I've ever been to. And it was a regular game. It wasn't It might have been a playoff game. I think it was a regular game. But then when I tell you this thing was live, this

thing was live. Um. So, in other words, you're saying, if you have a female athlete, if you have a female athlete, you should focus on tennis. Focus on what you're good at because that's the real answer. But like, if you're trying to get a paycheck, yeah, female tennis is where the most money is. I I would imagine I can't imagine that there's another woman who's who's who's pursed. Serena Williams money in another sport. I can't I can't even pretend to guess at who that would be, and

I don't really watch tennis. Is she really that good? Yeah, she's really that good. Um not anymore. I mean she's almost forty and a mother now and thinks she's about done. But in her prime, she was really that good. I think she also kind of had the Tiger Woods factor where she hit and Roger Federer had the same thing. Roger Federer had a huge surge period of his career where there wasn't any body else that was good. She

had a longer one. Like if you look at the like Larry Holmes exactly like yes, yeah, like stephie Graff, who would be the other comp for best of all time? Had oh, like that was the gold the Golden era. She was with Martina vrot to Love. It's like Nicol It's like Jack Nicholas and um Arnold Palmer, you know,

I mean there was yeah, Chris Evert was there. I mean, sell Us was the class stars, kind of like Floyd Floyd era boxing where you have danla Joia, you got Pock Yeah, like you got Colder, you got the biggest names, like like the eighties where you have like yeah, or even like the eighties in boxing you had Sugar Ray, you had her as you had all these guys. Um there was that. But I mean what's funny is nobody will give it credit, but the late d Floyd maywhere

the era is better than of the Rays era. And it sounds crazy, right, it sounds asinine, But if you look at how many Hall of Famers he was able to come across and fight, you know what I mean, that was like crazy like that access to that many other all time you know, Hall of Famer is an

all time great boxer. I mean, so to come across the best of the best, you mean, I think Sugar Ray's time as a boxer, you know, he he did have you know, the lighter guys, which was obviously uh No Moss, yeah, Duran, and there was another guy when he first came in that was really dope and he beat him for his first title. A lot of guy. I don't know why I'm drawing the blankets. I noticed it like in my sleep, but those guys and then coming up getting Sugar Ray. You know, Sugaray got Herns.

He's able to get haggler, you know, He's able to get a couple of guys in that run, but he did miss the Hawk and he did miss McCallum. Right, but if you look at if you look at um Floyd's era, Floyd came out, you know he had day La Joya, he had Codo, he had more Kaz, he got Shane Mosley, he got Zab Judah. No, he miss trended that Peter Dad was so big by that point, I couldn't remember. I can't remember that fight happen Joya

because Dey Lajoya had moved up to one sixty. So coming down for that last fight with Floyd, you know, before he fall, Pokeyon retired having Pokeya, you know, coexisting And that's your point, no co exists, Floyd coexisting in the area, pokey out, excuse me, coexisting in the era or poke out made it that much better. So you're saying, I'll see what you're saying. I'm not saying. And luck.

Another thing that that's different in tennis evolution is like the rackets, the shoes, like like like Diligient was using a wood racket for fox sake. Now they're using like some sort of graph fight with lightweights wigs a half an ounce, the strings are loaded, the hit zones this big, you know, whereas before it was this big on a on a wood racket. It's a different deal. But Serena's

a supreme. The only other athlete I could think of in that sport that was b comper would be Steffi um She was about five eight or so, big, strong German lady who could run all day long the street was serain about a buck twenty damn near. I mean she was yeah, yeah, I think how good was Venus? She was really good. She wons some She won multiple Grand slams. She was probably the second best player of

the era. Um. Once Serena beat her, though, she like never looked back, and she had some health issues and injury issues and stuff like that, but she was very good. She's already retired, right, I believe so, um so, who is the best female professional track athlete? Like the greatest, the greatest and all the track and field? It's hard

to say, um. I think in reality, Flow Joe's world records have held for fucking ever, and the one and the two they're like impenetrable anybody within earshot of the sport in that era knows she was drugged up beyond her you know, beyond imagination. So and there's we already know a lot of people's own drugs anyway, steal to this day. Yeah, she never got pot that whole that is weird. I mean, like look at the men's ones

and twos, like those things get broken. You know, the men's one has been broken a hundred times since that time. No one's even gotten very close. To be honest, I think this one girl Summer one got pretty close. That's about it. And um, but yeah, she's probably it. And maybe the most decorated, you could say, is Alison Felix. She has probably the most medals. I don't think she was ever that great. She just was really good for a long time. Shelley Anne Fraser Price from Jamaica probably

is the best combination of the two. She was really really good and won a lot. And it's crazy because I'm making you spew this information because people don't really realize how much you would pay attention to female sports and somebody who people would think is misogynists or blah blah blah, you actually really pay attention to the whole layout. Because I don't know shit about nobody in female sports except nobody the closes something about it is and Wolf

I know a little bit about Lisia Leslie. I know a lot about and Wolf. I know a little bit about Lisa Leslie. And I know a fair amount about Christy Martin. And you know, like Cheryl Miller, you know, I don't really know about her aside that's Reggie's sister. Then who Yeah, she if the if the w n b A existed in the eighties, it might be a different story because of her. She was impossibly good and and the league basketball, I think, was having a general

growth curve still at that time. So if the w n b A started in night, Cheryl might have carried it. So they still still it's still a new league. You're saying the w n BAS new league, but the the NBA, it isn't new anymore. Basketball is not new to anybody anymore. What I'm saying, you're saying if they was a part of that growth in the eighties, they would have had a start to help as well. Yeah, I think it would have probably helped a lot. But who knows how

big is female volleyball. It's retty big, especially beach volleyball. It's pretty big. I went to a little league or like a like a like a youth league's volleyball game and it was exciting too. That's funny. I come from like volleyball headquarters, um Beach, you all. That is for sure. Culturally, it's probably not like that's like the Manhattan Beach to Santa Monica area. There's a lot of like ship there. But for women's alley ball, the second and third best

players of all time went to my high school. Wow. One of actually ship for a while. One of them was on my track team and we did the high jump together and she could out jump me when I was young, really very really. April Ross could out high jump me when she was in the twelfth grade and now was the tenth grade. Mhm, you developed into a man. Yeah, and then I stopped doing the event. But it's at one point, yeah, I was able to out jump her, but she was gone. That's crabb. I think they do.

They come. They may don't grow into the same type of athletes, but they mature fast. Whatever they're gonna be able to do, they're gonna do it young. Yeah, I think like sixth grade maybe like men an enter an intersex track meet in the sixth grade. It might be extremely competitive. You might see some guys get their asses beat. I like that. That would be funny. That would be the coolest thing that's acts. But I think that's what

needs to happen. I think I think they need to make all NBA and all w NBA teams and have them play All Star games, like if men want to help market because I agree, like from a fan perspective, you have to doll them up. You know, you you it's gonna be tough because I wouldn't ice Cu was going to shut down the Big Three because everybody's just doing layups and shooting with ship, you know what I mean.

Like he like, I think the Big Three is in trouble because they don't have the same athleticism that comes in the NBA, you know what I mean. So it's rough to watch the league, whereas a bunch of layups and jump shots, it'd be super pumped up. I mean unless you steph Curry, where you get a girl that's pulling up from half court, knocking shit down, going crazy, you know what I mean. So it's you know, I think they need to if for for you know, uh,

ignorant fan. You know. I agree, you have to cater to the to to the desire of seeing attractive, sexy type of woman, right, But I do think the w n b A it'd be tight, like if they have women, Like if they have some women in the NBA shoot, like they need to make a co ed All stars they do that that twoball bullshit, No one cares. That's when everyone goes to body like a w n b A, Like imagine, how okay, we don't know who their stars are,

right we do. I kind of know who Candice Parker is, but I haven't seen a great highlight to make me want to watch. Like Metro put me on Steph Curry back in two thousand and eleven or twelve, right or whatever whichever it was, might have been thirteen, but he was telling me about it, and I went to go right YouTube as highlights and I was like, Yo, this

dude is pulling up from anywhere, you know. I mean when they told me about Kenneth Parker, I want to see her highlights and she just was doing regular baseline jump hooks and ship and I'm like, I don't grade

on a curve for women. Nobody really does you know, Like I don't grade on the curve for women, So I just think that like if maybe if they did they All Star Games and made their All Star Games co ed. When me and are off in the off season and the three point Contests, has Steph Curry like, use your star power of the NBA, maybe somebody wins the three point Contests over Steph Curry. You know you

can create a star that way. It's possible that could happen at but but but you can't have them play, you know, you can't throw like Candice Parker into the NBA All Star Game. Fucking no, no, no, not that way. The other way, have them come to the w NBA All Star Game like a well, like like like an invasion like Omaha beach. No. No, I'm saying because if you did that, you like I would watch that, Like I was joking on his other podcast when I said that if there was a trans NBA athletes, sure I'd

watch it. Like the w NBA lacks storylines absolutely, Like I've seen Britney Grinder play right, and I'm like, like when she was in trouble, I looked at her highlights. I'm like, you know, I don't want to dish or like she's better than me, but ship like, I don't think she would be better than JaVale McGee. She wouldn't be better than I. I have a hard time believing that she would, that she could earn a Division one

men's scholarship. I just don't even see it happening. Like, I'll be honest with you, I mean, like like a six four backup guard at Indiana, We'll just truck her and dunk all over her and be two steps faster in both directions simultaneously. It's just not reasonable. Do you think uh Schryl used to be Reggie when he was young her? Absolutely? They both. They both are very open about that. Yeah. Probably twelfth grade. Man, I don't know

how how late a bloomer Reggie was. Probably grade twelve grade. He probably started lighting her ass up. I had even had to be sooner than that. Magic getting whooped by yourself, Like Tim, you're trying to make Divorcity TV of your sister. Put made your tip. I would be talking to Spike Lee too. Yeah, she's a few years older. Yeah, I gotta ask. I asked him. When I get a chance, I get around him asking like to what age was

you when SUREL was just whooping your ass. They might have even talked about it on the because they had a thirty thirty with him and she was on there and they were talking about that like a lot. So but yeah, to ask him, I want to, like, tell me off the If he wants it off the record, leak it off the record. I'll keep it to myself. But I wanna, Yeah, I'd like to know she might have been whooping his assid cotton Na. She wouldn't wopping it was fucking his a lottery pick. He's six seven,

he can shoot from down the street. Yeah shit, So if there was crime Serena, crime Serena, who's the best male tennis players? She could be? I wouldn't know his name. I wouldn't know his name if you he's that far down. Yeah, because her first serve red hot gambling. It's like a second serve for minute, her second serve. If she caught a line on the first serve, you gotta be more conservative. It's going like ninety, it's going five. I mean it's gonna get just driven right past or on the on

the return. So wait a minute, you're saying her starve speed on first serve is a hundred and twenty at its peak. I think that's probably the fastest she was capped buck fifty. Holy shite, I don't Rodic. I might watched Rodic do a buck forty nine. Oh man, a whole another what's funny is I watched the movie about female baseball players called The League of their Own, and I heard it was based off like almost real baseball. They sent all the major league baseball players to war

a World War two. Mm hmm. And I don't know about female baseball. I never heard nothing about it since nobody did. It became softball and no one heard of that either. Mm hmm. Softball is cool. Softball is cool, and softball I think does have fairly decent like viewership. College softball somewhat popular. You know what it is. It is. I've seen people watching it, but that interests be worlding up. Boy, they look like a hurricane with them pictures. Yeah, seriously,

I've never known the name of one though. Yeah, I don't know one day that's fucked up. So they're just not that good enough to where I have to know their name, and they're probably come and go really quick. I don't think there's a pro women's softball league of notes, So they just kind of go to college, good a degree and get a job. Tell everybody needs to play softball, Yeah,

damn man. But he keeps developing, you know. Obviously they're not as big as their male stars outside of outside of Rhonda Rousey, but they do a good job developing they start. But you're right, it's the league itself. Yeah, and they do do a very good job of it. I mean, like and it is. It is interesting though, because like right now, I'm not exactly sure who the best UFC fighter in the world is right now today.

You know, I can name a bunch of guys who have been good over the last decade, but I don't know who is the best today. It becomes like if you have secrets, what fifteen fights, maybe then they're about done. I don't see you guys fighting thirty five thirty forty fights. Yes, tough and then and I knew that helps them to some degree. The anonymity a little bit mm hmm. I'm just thinking, you ain't really much I could do, you know,

my I only have one idea, what is it? It's the were or less idea don't don't, don't make it cheesy, but you're gonna have to for the w n b A, they're gonna have to dress like volleyball and track athletes, so that help you should They ain't gonna fix the complete problem, no, but it'll but you don't think that would go again. Women trying to make progress with is weird, but for the same concept of like, oh, you're just selling sex and that's gonna turn young parents off and

watching and letting their daughters watching. Look, women are full of ship anyway, and you know it, and I know it, and they fucking know it. Sure, but women don't want to sell sex until guess what, it's time to get some money. Then they're fine selling sex. Good looking out for tuning into the No Sellers podcast. Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, and share. This episode was recorded right here on the West coast of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King for the Black

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