What's up and welcome back to another episode of No Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your loat glasses, Malone. My thing always was with doing videos is the quality of it all. Like one thing that happened to me is I became like a quality junkie. The more I got into like fucking with records and making records and making them sound good, you start being
hella like extra on quality. I remember Doctor Dre like being in there with him and him saying how long it was taking him to make records, thinking to myself like, man, take you that goddamn long. It don't take that long till I start understanding what making records was about. And yeah, take that loan. So that's to me how I feel like with like, yeah, like all our pods we have video portions, but they look like shit.
Yeah yeah.
So it's like do I really want to present that to somebody that because people got high regards for our podcast, Like honestly, people really be like, man, y'all, especially when me and you talk, even when me and the girls just talking, it's like there's these you could tell we explore different parts of the you know, the the cave that we call life and from a different perspective, So
I feel like the video shit represent the same thing too. Sure, sure, so it don't make it no easier, and that's what be happening.
I think it's probably possible because I just don't like the look of regardless of the quality of the medium, like say, second for mind, like you're in a studio, so it looks a lot more professional, you know, when if you have a decent quality you know, interface or whatever. I don't like the look of like having my just my apartment behind me, But I would guess unless there was unless somebody walked about with a leaf blower, which wouldn't be very likely because usually we do stuff in
the evening. Yeah, and it's quiet. If I sat outside with my back to the balcony behind me, I don't think that there's enough enclosure there to where it would get that same echoy problem. Yeah, I could probably be all right because I could just set up because I really do think it would be all right to set up with like either cocktail cigar or cocktail coffee cigar and then just have like space and a distant building behind me.
Yeah, I could dig it. I could dig what you're saying.
As opposed to like just the wall of the other side of the apartment.
Well, what's crazy, is right, is this is the crazy part. The crazy part is it's like, I don't think it's so much the production space that people be looking for a dog. To me, it's more like like to me, it's more like a people want to see at least it's clear, gotcha, Okay, you know what I mean? People, I think that the bare minimum standard, you know what I mean a visual is probably ten ADP. You know
what I mean. I don't know if everybody tripping off of it being four k let alone ak and all that futuristic shit, but for sure they want that shit ten ADP.
That's why I like, I want, like ideally to be able to have something that I could use on the phone where I could prop up and use the good camera part of the phone you post to the laptop camera on an old back book, you know.
Well standard the thing is like at home right now, it's a lot of new live streams popping up every day. But there's a group of them, the homies pun Real ad all the homies, Ice Boys, all of them got this whole fig Munity World thing, and they're using streaming cameras. And don't get me wrong, I don't think the quality on the on the cams are excellent, but they're good enough to where you can see all the corners of the room. So they they got some kind of definition,
you know what I mean. They not like no pug ass cameras like they some shit. So I'm thinking we have to go into a space like that eventually. But even moving forward, like I think this year we'll have like two hundred podcasts total. I mean like it's for a week. No, we have two hundred total, Like we can call to our two hundred addition, I mean, excuse me, our two hundred episode. So I notice everybody who hears
it thinks is really good. Well, most people don't know why I have a podcast because they can't see it. And you know, again, when I first started looking at podcasts, it wasn't about like you know, seeing it. Like it was for like more to like talk radio, like intelligent people to listen to. But obviously now you put all of these videos in it because and you've got all these retarded conversations happening parted as people.
I mean like I'm not gonna lie like that. I watched probably a few hours because I don't have cable, but I have a bunch of streaming things, like one of those Amazon TVs, So I do watch a good amount of like like Rumble channels or YouTube channels. I don't watch YouTube channels. Sometimes there's interviews specifically that I know happened that I want to watch on YouTube, but by and large there's like daily shows of different people
that'll do whatever on there. Yeah, I think that there's still space to dive into that, to dive into Rumble, because there's still they're still in that kind of build out phase. And there are people who've gotten kicked off of YouTube permanently, like a big name people who's the white guy with the stringy hair, the British guy.
The British guy with stringing here, super famous.
Fuck, I'm a big fan of his, super like like very very famous guy. But he's like either permanently kicked off YouTube or has to or does like fifteen minutes of YouTube and then forty five remaining on Rumble because should they talk about get howd of profile You're done? Steven Crowder done. There's all kinds of guys that you think you say anything about I mean, you could say something about Palestine, You're done. You say something about trans people,
You're done. You say something about all sorts of shit, and YouTube's like yanking people off.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but going definitely into next season, you know what I mean, if we committed to it, if I'm going, if I'm committed to it, like I gotta start figuring out a visual component, because I think we're out of space now to where we all comfortable. Like I think I think that's the point. Like at first, I wasn't rushing to get the visual component. I'm like, man,
we're not even comfortable doing podcasts. And now I think we're in the space now to where we can even miss sometimes but we jump right back into it and pretty much hammer it like it's almost second nature at this point. So I've been really working on visually how we're gonna execute this. I mean, but you know, we'll figure that shit out. Ain't nothing I wanted to talk to you. No seilings first off, no sillings, gl well.
That other part's not gonna be in the show.
All this's gonna be in the show.
All of that just right now.
Yeah, people love this podcast, you know, it's funny. Podcast is all about people you figuring out shit.
If anybody has the impetus to do me a favor and write in the comments. Yeah, if you're interested in our pontification about the visual Peter, you think that was just ridiculously interesting or otherwise, I want to know the out.
Please hit Peter. Tell them how interested you are in understanding how this stuff works. People listen, they want to believe they could do it. They want to take a chance. So I think people like that. I think they'll tell us. They'll be like yo, people are getting my DMS or tweet me and be like yo, fuck that, don't do that,
you know what I mean. So you at least your audience, and we got a good audience, Like we have a they're not hella active with me everybody, but it's probably a good forty fifty sixty people that hit me once a week to tell me what they think of what we're talking about. Yeah, So that's why I was saying to the girls, like, yo, we all need to start being active on our Facebook group, like we can build bring everybody there and you know, start seeing what everybody
want from us. But again, the one thing about No Silllings, it's not like an interview podcast, Like even when people want, like Yeller was hitting Tiff and saying, man, I want to get on Glasses podcast, and I'm like, okay, for sure, we you know, we'll do something with Yeller, like he'll be around next week. I'm like, okay, Pete here, We'll sit down with Yellow. But it's like Nigga ain't gonna be talking about no n w A, not like that. We won't really have an interview podcast, like we're gonna
talk about shit that Yeller could talk about. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but I don't. I do think there's a good amount of people that would love to hear Yello just talk about n WA shit. But Nigga Yeller is a complex motherfucking person who directed pornos and all kind of dope ass shit like that nobody knew about how he grew up, all this old fly shit that nobody never talks to him about or just about what's going on today getting his opinion, And there's like, honestly, there's a million fuckers.
Said dime, a dozen people that they can that the target just talking about more of just the hip hop part that the audience saw. Yeah, you know, there's no shortage of those guys.
I've been really thinking about designing it more like a radio room, you know, like a talk radio, like complete down, So like having you to where you on the screen, so when we're talking, you can see you on the screen, you know what I mean, And so me and you doing it. It could be you on the screen and me right here, but it can switch back and forth.
You're making one of those old PBS shows there you go from like the early age or so I'll sit there a robe and exact glass of cabernet or something exactly.
So nah, like hell you, all that shit will be on the pod. Like, I don't really I cut only a few things out the podcast. I really don't be fucking with it and cutting it out and all of that, Like I really try to make sure it's natural. So the last part we did about that Survivors act shit, Hm, oh no, that was me and the girl.
Yeah no, the last one that I was on was the one about parenting. Everybody thought I was off myself.
No, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. This lady was really worried about it too. She drive trucks. She was like, man, it is Pete all right. I'm like, I think Pete is okay. But I felt like a piece of shit because I hadn't call you after.
I was like, what do you want?
No so So, no gud So but no so. Me and the girls, Me and Britain and read we did a podcast about the survivors that ship. And you know it was it was right around the time Cassie had all this crazy shit going on with Puff. But now, like right, we fast forward and like Puff is in a whole nother stage of villainy, a whole nother stage of like Puff is entering because stages of villainy that very few entertainers in history have ever entered.
He's he is going to be Yeah, he's beyond James Brown.
Oh Brown, he low key.
He's kind of black Weinstein.
Yeah, it's hitting r Kelly plus stages.
Yeah.
And it's crazy because I never and maybe I'm tripping bro. I don't believe one hundred percent of what these people are saying. I think it's somewhere around fifty percent.
I mean, like, man, they saying Puff is rough the girl up handful of.
Times, yeah, which I get I get how you and your old lady could fight. That ain't crazy to me. He was so their biggest thing was talking. So right now he got a real beef where a woman that sending him a hard Pierre actually like raped her or like some level of aggressive sex or something to Puff. And it was like they said, Puff did it to her, And I'm like, they got the pictures of the girl sitting in his lap, hanging out, and I'm like one
of those Yeah. But like I was talking to my homeboys and they was telling me Puff is gay, and I just I don't know why. I don't believe half of this ship.
There are some conflicting statements there with those two what and he's forcing himself on women? Not the gayest thing I've ever heard.
And then all the homies who fucked with Puff, right, I hadn't been around Puff, went to a Puff party a couple of times. Problem fucked with Puff. You know what I mean, Nip fuck with Puff. I remember, none of us ever seen Puff do no gay shit. But everybody else who never been around Puffs for the god
Puff doing gay shit. Don't get me wrong. That one nigga who used to be the security guard that hate Puff Jean deal that nigga swear to god, Puff did everything Cuz like shit, he saying Puff did, but he hates Puff exactly. And how you This is my point, all these people coming out saying Puff did all this shit? How you was around this nigga? Like, I couldn't be around no nigga doing no whole ass shit like that.
I was like, if you're getting paid and it's a good time, don't give a fuck. Ain't quite Honestly, the only reason why, let's say everything that these people are saying is true, They're being incentivized. There's an incentive to say it now. There was not an incentive to say it then for them personally. There is a potential incentive for them to say it now personally. So they're just going where whatever the incentive is taking them. Obviously, it's the void of principle.
And that's my point. It is void of principle because none of it is a criminal prosecution. All this stuff is all civil. It's all about money.
Yeah.
So I do think there are some people that in brush Paths were puffed to some degree, some puff dig or something. I mean, but you can't convince me that this this nigga the whole time, was like this motherfucking sexual predator the whole time and everybody around him. Like even the whole r Kelly shit is just overstated. Like don't get me wrong, R Kelly dism shit that for
sure got me put in prison. Right if you if you have any sexual indecency or things with somebody under sixteen, feel me, that's a child for not if you record it, it's a child pornography. That's a federal case. And that's why should have got seven years. But man, this whole narrative like this nigga is crawling around the schools and he at the middle school, and shit, they didn't made
this nigga. Jeffrey Dahmer. Yeah, and it's this weird thing where I'm seeing motherfuckers and saying this motherfucker gay or this motherfucker gay, and is always some successful black person, like I'm talking about the motherfuckers out of heard was gay. Motherfucker told me Jamie was gay. I didn't fuck with Jamie. Jamie cool as a mom. Now I'm not saying gay people not cool. I'm saying Jamie. If Jamie Fox was gay,
bro it a food to shit out of me. If if any of these rich, wealthy stunner Wayne they oh stun away and kids didn't, I'm like, bro, these niggas is fucking the baddest bitches every night, So how the fuck is you telling me that these people is homosexual.
I would bet, even across color lines, if you were to just google an extremely high profile person, male, actor, singer, whatever, so and so, gay things are going to populate in that search. You're not gonna like, like, who's the guy? What's that guy said? I'm so bad with names of actors. Jesus, maybe Ryan Reynolds something real.
Yeah, I mean the one of them movies he's.
Gay or something like that. Or I've heard you know, and even number of other people.
It's just like, I just genuinely don't believe all these people gay and they're scared to come out. That's what my thing is.
If everybody in the rooms gay, and everybody, oh, I'm mystically gay, I don't want to tell anybody, but there's a rumor going around that the other nine people in the room are gay. I wouldn't want those people who I think are gay to find out that I'm gay. It would be embarrassing. No, it would be liberating because all of you would be gay exactly. It makes sense.
And that's what I don't understand is like, so, now was this shit with Puff where it's like Puff is just Puff is like the evilest motherfucker in the world. And I'm looking at all this shit and I'm watching the public, like, right, the public really sway and be like, I genuinely think people just tired of seeing cuzz win. So now whatever it takes to be like, man, fuck Puff.
I don't genuinely think most people think Puff is a bad part Puff don't even now again, Man, how you interact with somebody that you don't know is one thing. Puff do not come across as an asshole to people he don't know, to niggas he know like us. Now, maybe it's because we all gangsters me in age. No problem for Compton. I saw the same type of shit he knock gonna mistreat us. But I also don't believe he could hide who he is. But from all of us, some of us is gonna be able to figure it out.
They tried to pay him out like a bad guy on that show he did on VH one where he was like making an artist or I forgot the name of.
That show the band making the band.
Yeah, that's right. He seemed uh not not the warmest and or fuzziest.
But but I understand why too when you dealer with new artists.
Man like good television.
Yeah, and it's also you you he there is a reality that you have to be hell bent on winning. Sure, and if you don't know shit, motherfuckers who know everything, bro, I had the hardest introduction ever coming into the music business. Nigga kill Snoop, none of them fucking told me shit. Nobody, none of the legends coolioh, fucking whoever. You know what
I mean? You name niggas didn't tell me nothing. We was on our own, and I started a movement like we was a part of a movement where I was important in the movement that seemed like it was anti all of the legends versus the movement was really pro everybody coming up and it just you know, it wasn't Koch as old as much as Pepsi is the choice of the new generation.
That was from an observer, like that was such a weird the LA hip hop scene from an outsider's perspective at least this particular outsiders perspective sure was so odd in that way. It was like the only city that had this kiss the ring culture to antiquated artists by and large. I mean not to say that they're not good or whatever, or not that their hits are no longer interesting or don't have a place, but it was like it felt like, all right, this name over here,
Joe Blow is like red hot right now. These guys haven't put out a record in ten years, but this guy has a ceiling over his head. Until you know, those guys over there that his audience don't even care about get propped up by it. You know, it was. It was a weird.
It was tough. It was tough to say the least man, It was tough as fuck, bro, it was. It was like it was hard. But as I came into at this point in my career, right we playing music dog like you just don't know. And more than anything to me is they don't know how to teach, and you seem, honestly.
Like more cool with those guys than some of the Like I said, I don't know from Adam, but I don't It doesn't appear that he really like game used to almost to put it over the top, go maybe too far out of his way to try to like pay homage. Why G say, I'm the first rapper to make it without dre And I don't see him doing a lot of work with older guys and doesn't seem like he wants to stay there. And maybe maybe they're all great friends. I don't know.
Well, no, they didn't raise they music didn't raise him, you know what I mean? The Bay would have been in his instrumental years, right, the Hive movie like Mustard Mustard YG Tiger Debay is more instrumental, and they're like these it like if he's born in nineteen eighty eight or eighty nine or nineteen ninety, two thousand and five, six seven. As far as West Coast hip hop, Heife carried the Whole Coast game had a significant stance produced
by Doctor Drebill. Remember Battlecat didn't offer any artists, and like from two thousand and three forward, he didn't offer any artist where he executive produced the shit and put out a groupe of music. His brother, you know, Mike stro like, he didn't really make that his business. Warren didn't offer any new artists from two thousand to three four, DJ Quick didn't offer any new artists two thousand and
three four. Wow was that I don't know, you know what, I'm gonna do a podcast with all of them and I'm gonna ask him, like, why the fuck would you not be producing whole albums on artists. Remember the last offering Battlecap gave us was the East Siders, Like he was pretty much instrumental in the production of both of their albums. DJ Quick Sugar Free, like that was pretty much the last artist he offered. Warren g was probably.
I don't know himself, and it seemed like That's also interesting thing from from that book. I was saying, I just wrapped up. But it was like, you know the perception of supply and demand, but it's like supply precede demand. You have to put a supply of so people to have a demand for it. To me, it just kind of seemed like that sound just kind of ran its course and there wasn't the market for it. Really, it's crazy you to say that they just.
It never ran its course, like they stopped serving it to the next generation. Nobody ever got tired of the East. Nobody ever got tired of Snoop and battle Cat. Nobody was like, man, that's enough. Nobody ever got tired of Stoop and Dre. Nobody ever said that's enough them motherfuckers. As a creative, if you wake up and you be like, I'm trying to do something else or I'm pursuing something different,
you know what I mean. So it wasn't like niggas got tired of battle Cat sound, a Quick sound or Warren sound or jelly Roll sound or you know, any slip DJ slip from Comms mulst one. Nobody got tired of they sound Rick Rock, none of them. But what happened was they stopped producing for younger artists now, not completely, because I'm sure I got a song from battle Cat in two thousand and five. Different people got songs from
DJ Quick. But it's different when DJ Quick presents it sugar free, it's different when Battlecat is nine to ten songs on the east side of.
Yeah, that's I mean, that's basically like bird Man putting out on the menu. Turkwayne, Juvie, BG, et cetera. And that's just putting out on the menu Drake, Nikki, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
But don't look at it as the exec look at it as the music. So backing up, right, So backing up to the point I was making was what.
It would have been different if he did one Drake song for Drake and spposed to saying about your whole fucking album.
Facts right, Well, forty forty does overseers all album and forty is magnificent like that producer that Drake uses. But back back up, I digress. So as far as y g and them, they didn't really grow up to that sound that we that me and Gang grew up to. It's a different sound that they they grew up to, Hyphi.
It's weird because their music doesn't sound like it. All their music sounds like they grew up to the Clicks first album in like ninety seven or some shit like that.
What's funny is that the Bay Area can hear it and they talk about it all the time. But that's the thing when you run the coast. But ye, but it sounds like. It doesn't sound like the Federation, it doesn't sound like Kick. It's it's so so yet not now. But I'm saying right when like I'm different, and uh uh cop so so so cook it. That's all hype,
that's all heyfe you know what I'm saying. So, but that's also when the Bay Area was dominating the party scene in California completely, So their music sounds like it. But back up to the original point, you know what I mean. It's like, I know what it's like coming in the business and not having you know, nobody to tell you what's right and wrong. So even when I'm looking at somebody like like a Puff, so back to the point of making a band, because that's where he
was at. Right, It's like Nigga, I didn't even know what Battlecat new. It took me for years to figure out what battle Cat new. So I'm not looking even now. The more I know, I don't think Puff put them band niggas through shit, if all. The worst thing they had to do because was be on TV and Walton Juniors to get a G's cake. They won. I took my whole thirties off Nigga to figure this shit out, my whole thirties, my whole thirty I turned forty four.
I mean this week, I took all of my thirties to learn to get to a space, to know with Puff, No.
Yeah, I mean and making the band, it sort of would be like, you know, like Shark Tank. Yeah, they're ay, they're trying to assess not just the how great is the clothing line you've come up with, but it's like how I'm investing in you, I'm investing in the entrepreneur, you know, but that guy's already gone through the process
to vet whether he's got the chops or not. Where it would be like me going up to Mark Cuban, I want to start a company and him having to vet how serious I am, you know, without showing up with the company and already having a vet how serious I am? You know, he has to really kind of go do the high school football tryouts on that show is kind of what it was.
No, yeah, So that's why I don't so even that version of Puff that people would look at as a villain. I wouldn't look at Puff like that, especially because I have the information. Now if you ignorant, you're looking Puffing like me, he's a dick. He made them niggas walk and get that cheesecake. It's like, bro, if that's the max they had to pay for to get what they got to be around this motherfucking his information. As far as this business, it was cheap a fucking walk a
couple of fuck out the which I wish. I wish doctor Dre would have told me, Glads, I need you to like we in Studio City, at his studio, at Studio one, He's like, you need to walk to fucking Compton to give me a fucking barbecue from off of a you know, the the uh, what's the fucking place, the new spot corner. It's a barbecue spot on the corner and count I would have walked in, but it only looks bad when you ignorant on what he about to give you. So again like, I can't imagine Puff business.
Hella villain this whole time, and nobody saw ship. Nobody saw ship. You mean to tell me so even.
With Casie and Kim, all those people, everybody who would have expired career, no offense to those people. They love to get a cash cash in on. I'm gonna tell you how bad Puff is. And because I could use a million dollars today that happened.
It's just this weird space to where everybody I don't know if it's the social media culture of it all because there is a culture forming on social media kick a motherfucking when he down.
There's I mean, I think it's all an expansion of it to be blud People not gonna want to hear it. It's an expansion of of what is now a taught in Marxist mentality in America that says that nobody who achieves anything, or creates anything, or produces anything did so because they were smarter, or they worked harder, or they were disciplined than anybody else. You had to be an asshole and fuck over a bunch of people otherwise you're just like Joe Blow the cashier at Walgreens. And that's
not true. But the second they get an opportunity to validate that perspective, they all go at it like piranhas.
Well, yeah, but it's personally for them to make excuse for their shortcomings. The average person. I genuinely think the average person does that to validate why they didn't make it. Well, why it's not life not I.
Wasn't such a good person.
I could have been a piece of shit too, Yeah, piece of shit you over there smashing them cheeseburgers and shit at McDonald for you server so no, it's just hard, like Puff raping a bunch of benches. I'm not riding, bro, I'm just not riding. I'm not right. I'm not riding at Puffs too easy. I'm not riding that Puff is raping a bunch of bitches. And everybody is just cool.
Everybody want to be down, so they're not saying them because it got to be at least one glasses over there, Like there's no way I'd be in a circle with mac Tin, or I'll be in a circle with bird Man, or I'll be a circle in Little Wayne, and it's some old whole ass shit happen.
Have to not have anybody around that he came up with, not one, because if you had one person around that you came up with, that person would have to be solid because you're thinning out people as you go. So if anybody was from Harlem that rolled with him, that person would be solid. That's why they'd be there. Otherwise it's like, oh, you guys aren't doing anything. I'm going and doing all this. You guys hang back there.
And there's nobody coming out, and it's so weird because people aren't coming out and saying like and to the sheep mentality is like nobody's saying he a good person because he's a bad person. It's like, that's just saying true. There is nobody he even so let's say he was an evil person. It's at least some motherfuckers he food. Where are those people?
That's the other Yeah, like where, well, I mean, are there to the extent we've said, where is faith? Whereas Ken? Where sees where all these people? You know, you don't hear him out for all these years previously that mouthed the guy, I haven't paid a mountain of attention to the situation. Have any of those people been like, Huff's a pretty solid guy. What are you guys doing? Any detractors from the accusation? Hurricane or no? Not it that's disappointing.
I don't know, but I think I don't think that's in correlation that he just I don't think that means he's a bad person.
Disappointing in puffs, disappointing in them.
Especially all these people lives he changed. Yeah, for the life of me, even with like Mace, I can't get it. I'm like, bro, I'm a fuck what you feel l us or like blah blah blah, like this motherfucker didn't passed out more hits. The motherfuckers, some of these motherfuckers never had another hit for nobody else. And they'll be like, well stop me. Yeah, like Rob passed, damn it Rob for short, Like nah, Rob probably stood up.
For I walked right into that rake.
Yeah, yeah, it's all good.
I was a fan of his.
Man Puffish Puff one of them dudes. Man that didn't put on a lot of people. Gave a lot of opportunities. And you can't just sit up here and tell the Locks if he got into it, if he well, they was so the Lock situation. I remember Jaden. It was mad because puff had they publish, He bought their publishers. He what their published bought, their published bought.
Who do you buy it from?
From the Locks?
So if they if he bought it from them, they regret selling it. Oh they regret getting the money?
Yes, okay, I just they thought to themselves they got it. Wasn't Now that they have reassessed the deal ten years later, they was like, oh, it's probably worth.
They spent the money instead of investing it in an asset that would grow at a parallel rate, and now they have sour grapes because they didn't invest their money, because they could have gone and bought an apartment building and they'd be just fine.
There to the big home state. I've said it, so I'm not against it. I can't wait till we talked to Styles, you know what I mean, and talked to Jaden.
Styles is that's another guy. Styles in two thousand and two was my favorite stole. They were were talking about Tash earlier. You could catch me with Styles and Tash playing in the car two thousand and two, probably four out of seven days in a week.
Yeah, Styles, Styles p was crazy is how good Shechicenn got over the time. But it is weird at this point. But this is the same thing Sug was going through. There was nobody speaking enough for Sug when he was going through all this shit and this people should change
their life, Sug. Listen, Sug got some more like every other La Street nigga in the history of Los Angeles County, all every last street nigga got they little bullshit that they been fucked up, and some of them it's a little worse than others, but a motherfucker like Sugar and there's so many great things for people, and to not watch nobody come up and ever stand up, Like when these black people be going through this shit and it
be black people that looked out. But I'll be just thinking they be waiting for this motherfucker to fall down so they could try to get in the spot. But what they don't get is they could never get in the spot because they didn't They wasn't willing to sacrifice, because it was willing to sacrifice to get there. Like the shit Puff know about records? Bro is trust me, man,
this is somebody who make records. Like the shit this motherfucker know about records, Bro, it's probably ain't even ten motherfuckers in the music business that know about records like him.
He knows. He's a guy who has had a great feel for the pulse of consumer psychology since he was probably twenty years old. There are not many people out there like that. They just understand, all right, what are these fifty million people going to want? In six months? He'll be like, they're gonna want that. He's gonna be right every time.
Yeah, Puff is tough, Puff tough as fuck, Puff is cold. But I just I don't get it. Bro, And you can't convince me he's satan. He just been walking around, because if he just been satan this whole time and he been walking around all you motherfuckers, all you motherfuckers's bitches.
Yeah, I mean, quite honestly, being frank, number people over there have been shot. I don't remember anybody shooting him.
Yeah, true, I mean I don't know. It's just getting worse and worse, and the longer I'm in the entertainment business. Do I think it's some things happening?
Bro?
Yes? Do I think it's so awful? An awful lot of people on drugs? Fuck yeah. But also in the streets it's certain homies. This is how I know why everybody don't fuck with me all the time. They fuck with me when they see me, but they don't want me around because I'm sober, this nigga not drinking nothing, this nigga not doing no dope. They don't want me around.
I respect that it. Maybe some of these people are gay and they don't want me around because because they know I'm not, you know, on no gay ship.
That's weird because like the sober part, Mook came over here and we were sitting around isn't even here. I could sit around and drink all goddamnit.
Over there, but everybody had this perception of who I am, Like I'm judgmental, and I'm like because of how we'll have a conversation and I'll be like, man, that shit done. That don't mean I'm saying nothing to you. Why you're drinking. I don't know what the fuck you're going through or you might be going through this fill Yeah, I just I'll get it, man. I don't get the whole puss shit bro That shit just crazy. Now. It's like pick on Puff week cause it's pick on Puff day. Puff
ain't shit fuck puff. And I just don't like the mob mentality.
Yeah, that's for sure. And everybody with an opportunity to sound like no, no, I'm moral, is superior. Look at me address this problem. Yeah, so anybody knows that I'm against it.
I don't know. It get worse and worse. I don't know what to do no more.
Man.
Like It's like I just wake up every day and I look at Twitter because I just shake my head, like, fuck man, these people are just goofy. They won't even have a personal thought. But it goes back to that pod wolves, sheep and shepherd. You know what I mean. You see the sheep mentality all the time. You see the sheep mentality the whole time. Every fucking body's a sheep. Let me go with what everybody else is saying. Let me go with everybody else is saying. Let me say
what everybody else is saying. On Puff is bad on Puffed at this, And I like, I'll say some of the comments, like you know, Puff fucked over all these artists? Which artists did he fucked over? Nigga told me, well, Big didn't have no money when he died.
Big.
First off, his first record took so much fucking work, right, His first record took the song that's the hit record is Puff's idea. It's not Bigg's idea. Right, he didn't produce it, he wrote it. So it's like when people say shit like, oh, well he didn't have this, he didn't have that, And I'm like, what the fuck does that have to do with Puff?
Well, like back at that time, like you know, the album and stuff came out, but the tour and all that shit hadn't happened yet. So like his monetization vehicle hadn't left court, you know what I mean?
The same thing with Tupac. Yeah, Tupac, Tupac, Like I was trying to explain it to the hommy right, Tupac situation is, Tupac gets out of prison in October November ninety five. He's in the studio the first day he comes home, and every day to the album is out right, So this is how much studio bill he racking up. Let's say at that time that studio bill two thousand dollars. It's probably a little bit more at this time, but let's say it's two thousand dollars a day. Let's say
this motherfucking the studio one hundred days. That's two hundred thousand to be in the studio. Let's say to get him out of jail, I think his bill was one point five million dollars. Let's say that's one point seven Let's say everything they had to pay for it, right, blah blah blah. Let's say he comes home, they give him half a million dollars or six hundred thousand. Let's say he kicked that bill. He right at two point
five two point six million. The start right now, you're shooting videos now you're paying the producers on the album, right, other.
People will come feature on the song some shot. Snoop didn't jump off.
Snoop jumped on his free part of the come man. Pop wrote in his contract Snoop needed to jump on like Pop wrote this handwritten in his contracts.
He cited specifically in the contract.
Snoop needs to be on a single single for free or no no no it no no, he to be on it. This is a part of shit, like Pok's contract. A feature from Snoop and a remix from dre.
So for free.
Well, I don't think they'd charged him because I think they had a lot of respect for Pok. I know Snoop for sure did, because he was already out the gate before Snoop started. But even then, Right, let's say he and the record three million dollars. Let's say he and all his debt three million dollars. I think his number was a dollar. He wrote it in a contract, right, one dollar per album. Right, let's say videos, everything else, Let's say and all this shit. The album come out
February fourteenth, nineteen ninety six. The first the first statement is six months, six months, So that's August. Yeah, let's say at that point, let's say he was due. Let's say he was three four million dollars. Like his split of the money was three four million dollars at that time where he was at sales. He he ain't getting a dime every month. She'll given him one hundred thousand dollars every month. Let's say he ain't that motherfucker four
five million dollars his first statement. The nigga didn't last thirty days past his first statement, like his first invoice to balance the royalties. It's six months February fifteenth, August fifteenth, right, he dies before September fifteen. I think he's down on fourteenth. So like his first statement, he would have probably just been breaking even, which is fantastic. Sure, it's fantastic to break even on your first statement. Nigga takes a lot
of lot of people lie longer. First statement. He break even. He wasn't supposed to have no money. But motherfuckers don't care about doing the math. So that's why I don't listen to them. She'll give it this man one hundred thousand. Look at Snoop situation, Bro Snoop Snoop comes out his shit. Ain't like Pocket saw some records. O' pak was able to get a dollar and make some stipulation. Snoo shit
probably a quarter twenty five cent. Right. Let's say they and Snoop record a million dollars between videos and making album, right, whatever it costs, right, then a million dollars, the nigga goes to jail. His baill is a couple of million dollars at Tourney's a million dollars everything. Let's say here and that shit four five million dollars. Snoop getting fifty to one hundred thousand dollars a month, but nobody is coming out and saying, Sug wasn't that bad of a dude.
It's because I think it's because everybody wants these people to fall to get into their position, and I think that's what we happened. That's what's happening with Puff. Whereas like nobody coming out and being a solid nigga be like, man, that ain't the Puff. I know, yeah, ain't no way Puff did all these people fucked up and then now
nobody liked you. No, these niggas is lying down. And you know what I told Envy this when I was at shout out to DJ Envy because at at a Power one or five in New York Breakfast Club, Ross is kicking cuz cause he down. Now, Rose is a nigga. Everybody know Rose and my top five love Rose. Rose gave me the feature. It wasn't for free, but he gave me the feature. He's a really great man personally, like Rose is a great man personally, But to be kicking a nigga when he down, it's some bitch ass shit.
So like he talking shit about Envy when Envy dealing with this shit with the nigga that was his partner that's in trouble, and now it's like it's a joke about Envy when he down. I don't like that cuz I'm not That ain't no real man shit. That ain't no real nigga shit. That's that bullshit for they laws of power shit. See that's why I accept it out of fifty cent because fifty cent is a fucking you know, he's a fucking a what do you call apostle of
that book? You know, what's the people who followed jesusug Oh, yeah, he's a disciple of that book. That's cuz book he's a disciple of that book, so I let fifth do his thing. And I ain't got much to say because that's his book. But I'm watching like a nigga, like Ross, why would you be kicked? Cause when he damned?
It's almost kind of that we see now. It's like the if you get the guy's got a bad and he's a bad dude. I don't like the guy, but scary scary genius. Like you're a lot of people that I look at and go, that guy is a scary genius. George Soros. D That's it. That guy is a scary genius.
Dude. Thats not the dude. That's not the dude that's in politics.
The guy who buys politicians. Yeah that guy.
Okay, what's the other the other guy that just got in trouble. No gay guy, chubby gay guy.
Oh it's like Suarez or something like that, Sanchez who just got kicked out of Congress. Yea yeah, yeah, different guy, but a lot.
Of his talking about the wealthy dude that.
I a super rich guy. But he talks about investing on feedback loops. You most investors understand something, so that so whatever people are saying, oh the word is housing is going up, and it always feel buy housing because it's going because the next guy bought well, that guy bought it, so it's going up. So I'm gonna buy it because it's going up. Well because you know, just mindless group think yeah, yeah, and uh, you know, it's just kind
of a product of the same thing. It's like, well, because the feedback loop is moving in this direction, I as rick, I'm gonna throw my money in and let the let the sheep carry carry my you know whatever it is, my money or my value or my virality in the same direction. But there's one question I have
as far as goes this is kind of interesting. I'd like to kind of explore because there's you know, there's there's urban legend theories galore on the Biggie killing, and I don't think anybody looked at it as a reality as a revenge claim for pocket. I think that's that's ridiculous. A lot of people think that, a lot of people think I'm saying that. People close to the situation.
I think that you think that, Yeah, I think so. I just I wouldn't publicly like say it all, but I think so because there was no reason for him to die.
That leads me to the other theory. There was a lot of people who I think thought that Puff set it up so that he could have it.
Is odd because Puff owned all that shit no matter what. Yeah, he didn't need Big to die to own none of that ship. I mean, that don't make sense. But back to the point, I lost it when he was chopping it up about it because it it slipped my mind. But I was saying this to envy about Rosslam. I'm like, this is the type of niggas y'all put on. This is the type of nigg like I tell Charla Man,
I tell different I tell different people. I'm like, bro, watch who y'all really at least put on a solid Yeah, because if you don't put on a solid, man, you get that, you get a nigga kicking you when you down doing weird shit. You know what I mean? That shit is under That ain't cool, daw, that ain't even cool. It ain't player. Cus. I don't give fuck what a nigga did to me, bro Like, I don't give fuck
what was said. Bro Thug. Young Thug is a perfect example of a nigga dish cribs and niggas had they conversations and all of that. Man, I wouldn't say nothing about that man. That man fighting the case, you know what I mean. I don't got nothing to say about cuz because niggas is really fight for their lives. So to watch envy for cuz for ross to no envy going through that and then like, oh, you know you making jokes, Bro, that's some weird shit. Get your shit together, bro,
This ain't that fucking rap shit. This real, Cuz this ain't no joke Like this ain't the time, my nigga. This is the time where you hit a nigga. This is the time where you hit a nigga. And I don't give fuck what y'all went through. Hey, bro, you all right, cause nigga, you a black man. If you come from where we come from, you know how fucked up this shit get. You know how fucked up. If you from the street, bro, you know how fucked up she can go. You know how she can't go left.
So if this ain't the time, I don't fuck what you got going on with this, nigga. This is the time you call that brother and be like, hey, cause you straighten my nigga, I know y'all we on some shit, but man, I ain't Finna, and I hope the best for you, bro, I don't want you to, But these niggas get in front of the general public, and that's the difference. That's why that whole conversation about sheep, the wolf's sheep and shepherd was important because that's the separation
between a wolf and a shepherd. A wolf is rounding everybody up, rounding all the sheep up to get in a position to eat. A shepherd is leading people to eat.
Yeah, I mean that's why.
You eat, because you're leading sheep to better pastures.
But I mean that's that's why you have to somehow find out who's going to complain and be resentful of going for a long walk for a cheesecake fast. You know, you're you're weeding out mindsets, you're weeding out of a
mentality somebody. If you're in that position to where you're at the threshold of opportunity and the key bearer asked you to go get a goddamn slice of cake and you're self righteous enough to resent the request, I don't think that's the problem of the guy holding the key, true, But.
It's that sense of entitlement. Yeah, it's a lot of entitlement for sure in the entertainment industry, and I can't believe it. Like sometimes I'll be worthy, like, damn was that me? Did I think iceqbe owe me? Some did I think? Snoop? I don't in my mind, I don't think I felt like that, But I guess to some degree from a street level, I felt like it was something. But maybe that's what it is. It's like a sense
of entitlement, you know what I mean. Like even with all this shit going on with Puff now, it's like people who felt like Puff didn't do this for them, or Puff you know, should have did this for them, and it's just all entitled. That makes you not stand up and be a man and really stand by somebody in those moments when you need them. It don't mean you got to go to prison with cuz, you know what I mean. If he did something wrong, cuz and it's a legal cubs gonna go to jail by himself.
It don't matter if you stand up with him or not. But it's another thing to feed that brother some shit behind the scenes and publicly, you know what I mean. It's cool. Maybe it is. Niggas call him puff behind the scenes, like you know what, puff, bro man, I got your back. But it's also a time to stand with that brother right now, especially all these fucking geeks that cubs changed their life. Yeah, made millionaires, made famous, made it to where they'll never work a nine to five,
you know what I mean. I get Mark Curry problem, like you know, it didn't go as good for him, But at the same time, whatever moment you had my nigga was fantastic compared to what other people in this business don't never get the chance to get, you know what I mean. So it's it's it's it's almost unbelievable. It's like, kick this nigga when he down, kicking whin
he damn. And I really think social media just fucked it up because it didn't used to be that bad before, like it would be it'd be mixed opinions and mixed thoughts, so you know, motherfucker had to deal with their own court cases and shit, you know what I mean. But now it's a space where it's like people so scared to say something because they don't want a bunch of people to cyber bully them or tweet them some negative shit.
Like if I say something that people feel like stands up for R Kelly, which I don't say nothing that stands up. I just take the truth into consideration. People. First thing a motherfuckernna say is oh well you must be it. It's like, bitch, shut upbody care what you think? Like that's some ignorant shit you I mean, like you know, I can't. I don't like kids.
Yeah, just like just be reasonable for ten seconds. If you're a legitimate pedophile and another guy gets in trouble for being a pedophile, are you.
Gonna be be drum?
You're gonna be dead fucking asked silent. You're not going to advocate for any element of it. You are going to sit there and try to blend in with the wall. I mean, uh, people just they're weird. I don't know what to make him all the time, but like who trying to think, Like there's a lot of people that puff made, Like like Craig Mac, you know, is he still is he alive now? And I gotta ask after I missed on Black Rob.
Yeah, I could dig it, cup say that one.
John Craig Mac is still alive? I'm trying to do a catalog all the people that that puff.
No, Craig passed away, he did?
I thought I thought he did.
Craig passed away for sure. Yeah, I don't know, man, he just get worse and worse.
Dog, I mean even like and he's not even a street guy. But like you saw, like Ashton Kutcher had that co star from his show Get in Trouble for like something with kids. Oddly enough, I don't remember what the hell it was. Yeah, but Ashton stood up for the dude until the conviction. Then he was like, well, I didn't really want to believe he was doing all that kind of stuff. He'd been a good friend of mine for a long time. But if he's doing all that kind of stuff, then can't be doing that kind
of shit. But it wasn't like the first day that the accusation came out, he was like, fine, I fuck kept gett him away from you the no he like, I kept him on his show. He stood up for him that Once the evidence came pouring into court, he was like, shit, well I didn't know he was doing all that. I didn't want to believe it. Not for too long, you know, there's no benefit. He gave the guy benefit of the doubt. He gave him, you know, in his sent until proven guilty kind of you know approach.
There's none of that with this, None of that with this.
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