Conversations About Culture and Experience

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right because it's gonna be a cold trip. Oh ship. Okay, yeah, let me keep my mind that some po at some point, folk, se to get your mind right f y. I never tell a person don't smoke. What I'm just tell you, I don't smoke weed for you got here because D dropped off. But that's what you did say that. You were just like, don't smoke. I was like, what, that's just D dropped off. JA, I'm looking at for y'all got you let me see mm hmm. I'm kind of scared. I would have we had a clear frame of ie,

you talking about it. Let's be up. And this is one of those conversations. Okay, is this something you've been thinking about for three weeks, um a couple of weeks. I've been thinking about it probably for like I've been thinking about it for a lot longer, um, a lot longer than three weeks. Make sure y'all share the pod. If you see the pod, you please share the pod. That's exactly what I was doing. And then I was like, mm hmm, oh, this is really smooth, is pretty good.

This is good. But now that the topic itself is uh, it's really important to me because I've been thinking about it probably since the beginning of two thousand. Okay, it's gonna be even crazier. Yeah, it's crazy. It's it's no because yeah, you need to probably put that out you talking about I'm gonna need the function. Yeah, this is one of them conversations. So I have this conversation with people when we talk about hip hop all the time, and I tried to explain to people hip hop, right

is is black culture. It's street urban culture. More than black culture, it's street urban culture. We just happened to be the face of street urban culture. But there's a lot more than us that make up street urban culture, even though we are the centerpiece of it. Street urban meaning like uh, densely populated, criminal written communities. That's what street urban means. So if you grew up in the community, they got crime, know what I'm saying, um, and it's

super dissely populated. That's the cornerstone for hip hop. You become the representation. The reason they became invaluable is there was no representation before hip hop forward. You didn't know what the inner city kid was going through. They kept the stories very uh either mainstream you know before that, or they made it over the top like super Fly or the Mac or you be like over the top

of the superhero right. Um, hip hop gave you access to people, it's life, you know what I mean that you could never see you can never see what it was like for somebody growing up in Watch it was only Sandford the Son, it was only jokes. Um that's what made hip hop important. Fast forward, hip hop becomes its things, huge, grand thing, big thing. Um obviously alone the way Tupop, big different people died. You know, street urban coach, you're you know, it's a real thing. So

sometimes it it's very price pricy. Somebody could lose their life. Um So I think for a while the game quite didn't know what they wanted to do because it kind of came under scrutiny because of the deaths of Tupac and Biggie. Um So there was like in this weird space, and I think they was okay until fifty cent happened. Because when fifty cent happened, it became this super potent version of street urban culture, super potent like where you hadn't seen it since Snoop or Pock or all that

early stuff, you know, and it became impactful. It became influential, like this nigga because you know, he comes to sales seven, eight, nine, ten million. So now they're like, holy, this ship is popping. This ship is going to happen again. He's in the middle of a war with Ja Rule. They're like, man, this could lead somebody can kill game. They see the game, shit happened if somebody gets shot. So they like, Yo, we need an out. We don't need this. We don't

need this to fall on our hands. You know what I'm saying. We don't like, we don't need to look bad with this again, about to go there ship two thousand four births Kanye West. Okay, I knew his name in this conversation. He deserves the bingest conversation. So he became the savior, right, He became a savior for um the game. The game like it wasn't sure I wanted to go back in that dark hole. That true street urban culture was the richness. So they kind of got

this shallow brother that was a scientist. Now, sure, I think his topics were shallow to some degree as far as street urban culture went, but I think his topics were very mainstream fitting um. I always say the plight, the plight of his struggles was like a car accident, which is American example, Pie being accused of stealing pants

at the jobs. Maeric Pop think his plight was very you know, as far as urban street life goes, that's pretty much not really like everybody goes through car accidents, that's normal, And so you thought that that made him more relatable basically what you're saying. Yeah, and hip hop

is not really about being relatable. But I'm saying for him, so he'd be kind of came like this hip hop kind of star where his conversation was super pop. But his scientific approach when it came to making these records in the style of hip hop was like unbelievable. Like he used a hip hop door and he came in through that door, and his music, his his beat was insane, what I'm saying, and but his topics were like he didn't truly have the culture. Um fast forward to two

thousand two. Um M, people are really disappointed with ya because they feel like he represented them Black people. I don't care about what the rest of the world things. I don't give a funk what they think. Let's focus on us. So I think a lot of black people

are are upset because they felt he represented them. And then they're like, well, we don't understand this rhetoric, or we don't understand the rhetoric of slaveries of choice, so we don't understand the rhetoric, the rhetoric of white lives matter, or a lot of this stuff you're saying, we don't get it right, mm hmm. And it made me think today while I was boxing, it made me think like

there's a disconnect, right. The disconnect is the black experience versus Black culture, experience versus culture, and it matters in these conversations because we feel like all experience creates culture, but it's not. It's way more complex. So that's what I want to talk to you about today. So A right, g L no ceilings, what's up? Break, what's up? No? So it's like, um, so let me let me start this by saying this, this is my thought on it,

this is my philosophy. The black experience is how people treat you because they see you are black. That's the black experience in America. Black culture is how we treat other people, other people, How we treat each other other people, how we talk to each other, the slang we use, the foods we serve each other, the way we dress how that's that's how we do our thing. The experience is how the world sees us, and the culture is how we see the world. Um, that makes sense as

starting point. So fast forward when you take somebody like, yeah, and I was talking to one of my boys and he was so upset. He was like, man, you know he talking about this slavery is slavery is a choice ship? And I said, uh, he was like that ain't no ship, the community says, And I'm like, which community is? Because from like, see, we black is this huge di spore

of experiences. Did y'all know that mode? It was a lot of black people in America that were not slaves during all the way fast forward to every black person in America was not a slave. That's the first thing. So to feel like every black person has the same trauma about slavery that we pass on is just incorrect. Now, the belief is that other black people that even though they're not, they should be empathetic to what these other

people went through. If I asked somebody in Beverly Hills to be empathetic towards the struggle of a gangbanger, do you think they really understand it? They're definitely not gonna understand it definitely not gonna understand it at all. They're gonna they're gonna feel as though, honestly, they'll just look at it us like if they're just violent or just anything negative against, they're not gonna even think anything positive. So what do you think some black people thought about slavery?

Some black people, like, what do you think about the black people who was on the plantation that were not slaves? Mm hmm, there was, but they were on the plantation. They were just So let's talk about two specific other black people that had other Black communities. Because there's the black community that's us, the people that's on the plantation. Then there's a black community of people that were not

slaves or got their freedom. That's one community. Then there's another community in the black community that we don't talk about, which is the black community that owned slaves. M to believe that black people didn't own black people, that's just not true, right. So these are all communities that range in our disport as far as our experience in America. Some of the other ones don't get talked about as much,

but those exist. So the point I was, the question I was asking you is what do you think, um, what could you imagine what a black person. Now, let's say it's the black community that doesn't own slaves, that just look at these people like slaves. What do you think about Most black people say about people that's in jail, they're like, oh, you know what, I'm wondering if they're eating correctly. I wonder if people are treating them correctly.

A lot of people don't care. And I'm talking about this is another community within the black community, right motherfucker don't replay. They don't. They don't understand it. So it's like, um, I won't say that they don't care. I mean, of course he has some care, but it's just they don't understand it. So it's just they only I guess they don't care. They just don't care. They understand it. They don't have to understand it. They don't care to understand it.

Like for you to be emphatic, you have to care, or you you're you're trying to put yourself in that position or in their shoes in a sense, so or trying to have a feeling. But they don't. You don't. Some people, they just they're not empathetics. Right now, a lot of people lack empathy. It doesn't matter the race or not. They just really people in general. So it wouldn't be unbelievable that some black people who weren't slaves during the hundreds wouldn't be empathetic to what was happening

to other black people that was on plantation slavery. Right now, what about the community that was black people? Their own Black people? Do you think they would be empathetic towards slaves because because they own them? They don't think, I mean, why would they if they were empathetic, they wouldn't be why were they own them? So fast forward now, I'm no, I'm not disagreeing. So fast forward now, right, you got somebody like Kanye West. I would like to believe, right,

his experience. Now I'm not. I don't know this to be fact, but I know enough people around him to ask questions and find out what's true. His mother, Let's say his mother is somebody who bought her paperwork, she bought her freedom, or let's say her parents bought their freedom and raised her free. So she's aware of the struggle and the you know, the trauma of being a slave. Right,

whether or not she was a slave is irrelevant. I mean whether she bought her papers, but she ended up becoming a doctor in America, got a pH d. You know what I mean. She raised Kanye in the middle class south side suburban Chicago neighborhood, put him in really good schools, great education, you know, I mean that was the goal. Mind you. The first project is called college Dropout. He dropped out of the university. Right, It's really important

that we established these things. So if you don't grow up with slaves on the plantation in these ghettos, what I'm saying, his connection to slavery, you know, his true immediate connection would have been his mother. Right. That's somebody either that bought her paperwork or her parents were slave and they raised her free. Right. I would like to believe that's true. Maybe his family is not a long line of slaves. Maybe his family could have been people

who it really wasn't never slaves. Right. So when I hear people say he's not representing the black community, I keep telling them what the community are you talking about? What made me want to talk about this today is a couple of different friends and the different angles. One of my partners that who professionally said glasses, do you feel like you own a right, Like who are you to declare somebody's blackness? And what I told him was, you know, do you feel like you're in the position too?

And I was like, yes, there's levels to blackness, right you have. Let's say a kid that grows up in Beverly Hills, he's black. What the funk? What do you know about black culture? Where would he get it from? He listened to a rap record, he watched some TV, he watched the film Black Cultures. When you walk outside your door, it's not just inside your house, is when you walk out your door. That's a perfect example somebody

that could have a black experience. He can go places and people treat this person like a nigger, But his friends don't talk to him the way we talk to each other. That's the difference between culture and experience. We had a friend that was like that. He literally his family was rich, as you know. They were like, um, I'm not when music industry and richest hill lived in

the Hollywood Hills. And he would have his show for bring him to the hood to hang out with like all of us, and we were like, why would you want to be here? You got a big gass house, up there, but he he was black. He's black, but he literally didn't know anything but that he was raised there. But he just wanted to be with his people, with people that other people that are black. He wanted to

partake in the culture. So somebody like Kanye, you know when people when people tell me, you know, oh man, gee, you know, I'm not one of those people that defend Kanye. I think Kanye has been this kind of cornball lass nigga this time right from the start. Like I've been saying that since his first project is called College Dropout, Like my nigga were selling drugs, We fuck you talk about college. I'm not mad at no brother that go to college. I'm just saying that's a far stretch from

hip hop. As far as the conversation, it's nothing wrong with it, because we do need that conversation represented in hip hop as long as there's some elemented street to it. But the thing about Yea, he was, yeah, always been this person like like I keep saying, like Eddie Winslough, Like when you listen to him talk, he talked about how much he looked up to Marylyn Monroe. Eddie a middle class suburban Chicago black team that that grew up

in a suburb it he don't know the culture. And if you remember, there was an episode of Family Matters because where he ran into the streets and his dad had to come save him. So he's trying to tell me that he so the cousins, the aunties, the brother like, there's no family like. He didn't grow up black like us, Like okay, so it's like black like us. And that's my point. What do we mean like us? Okay said or nothing like that. He didn't have a cousin auntie.

What she's saying is a grandmother somebody else that wasn't in the actual home. Maybe he visited or went somewhere. I don't know, but I'm saying, let's say he does. Is that going to wrap you in black culture? A visit? No, No, I'm not a visit. Okay. So let's say he did go visit the projects in Chicago when they were there spending summers. They're going, like, you know what I'm saying, You're going down to your grandmother's house. This is where Let's say he didn't do that, So that's not Is

that enough to really bathe you? In our conversation as far as the plantation conversation, Like let's say, let's say if you wasn't on the slave right, you wasn't on the plan Let's say we lived on the plantation, was picking cotton for it, was getting sucked up picking it for free. The black kid that you know, weird family, he comes spending night's day in the outhouse with us and all that for the weekend and go back to his Do you think he would understand all the conversations

that we have. No, definitely not. How legit would his cultural experience be. Yeah, I mean like his coach summers coming down for Let's say you come on the plantation for ninety days and you leave, you feel like you know what it's like it's like to be a slave, Like you get to leave. Isn't that the whole point of slavery if you could just leave and ship at

the end of the ninety days. Because I don't know if you quite get the slavery point, and that's how it was for people that come to where we're from, Like I don't know if you truly get culture in the fullest way, if especially as a slave, with the whole point where you just couldn't leave. I mean, if if the slaves could just leave when they want to, I don't know if slavery would be as disregarded as it is. I think it would be like, Okay, it's

the same that I can believe what I want to. So, so hints why Nigga would say slavery is a choice? Mm hmmm, because he could say why he said that don't matter? No, I'm saying, like slave? Why did you say, like? What made him? Because he visited the plantation? He visited the plantation for the weekend at best? Wow? Why do you say that the plantation for the weekend at best? Okay, so he could be telling other kids. So he could be telling the other kid again. See that's the point

you said. He still shouldn't be saying that because you come from the plantation. If you don't come from this way of life, it is you think white people. If white people really thought that they was sucked up cause slaf you think they'd just be cool. Why he isn't that They ain't be feeling horrible. They don't feel horrible about slavery. What's funny is they feel more horrible about the Holocaust. You would think they are German. Well they'd be like, it's up. First off, only German people did

all white people did this to us. German niggas asked slave French white people as Slash and his white who asked English one. The whole another story. But I'm saying when you when Kanye talks, so when people say he's not in the community or he don't think he black, he's not are black. See, that's the thing. And that's what I was telling my hoop because I was telling because like, bro, you think like it there's levels to

this ship. It's black ship. It's not somebody's blacker. But it's probably because the other there they group us all into one, so it is well we are one. Yeah. So they're like he's like he's representing us because they were grouped into Yeah. But can a can of black Democrat represent a black Republican? But when he does something stupid, then it's all black people. But but I'm saying, only it's not because that's the problem. He doesn't speak for

the slaves. It doesn't matter that he doesn't speak, it's this the whole representative like his whole, he represents us. I agree, he's a black person. He doesn't represent us to us, that's the problem. See he represents us to white people, right, that's but that See, that's what I'm saying is to everyone. I get that you're saying for us, but for everyone, like he knows, like he knows, he does it. The fact that you think that everybody got our skin tone would know this, Why the funk with

somebody who's never been everyone? But I think he does? Why? Because I just think he does? You know why? Because you want do you think this ship? Do you think this ship we got got something to do with being smart? You know, the smartest motherfucking crag. I can't tell you what it's like being a slave, So why the funk would you think intelligence or education got something to do with this? Mou've been able to figure out what's up.

I'm just trying to know. This is my point. So when somebody says to me, glasses you know, don't you know? Ask me what I make. I don't need to make excuses for Tanye. This has been because the whole time, this has been because the whole time he very much is a Negro. He's a black man in America, but he not from where we from. Even though he used our door, he came through the hip hop door. And that's why y'all feel betrayed. Y'all feel like there were

times he represented y'all. Y'all feel like when he said that George Bush don't like black people, even though that no nigga history ever talked like that, that you that we affiliated with us like the niggas like the President Reagan. That's how we talk. This nigga said George Bush doesn't like black people. That was a bit diet nigga right there. That was diet nigga right there, Diet nigga. That's diet.

That's and the thing y'all all fell in love with it because I was like, oh, he he's That's not how we talk, not not where we talk where I'm from now. I don't know how people who don't wasn't on the Plantation talk. I don't know people who black people that aren't slaves talk. I'm telling you that's not how the Plantation talk. Don't nobody be like, Master don't like us, We gotta talk. I'm just trying to give you who the funk on the plate, Like, well, Master

don't really like us. Yeah, I don't. I don't think that a lot of um, a lot of like black men or like. I don't think that they like thought Kanye represented at least from the community. I don't. I don't, not not not me now, not niggas like me. No, okay, not niggas like me. I think now that he's you

know what I'm saying. When he does his his rants or ship like that, and then this type of ship, it's like, Okay, they're looking at all of us because you are black in the white community sees you as one color, one person, this black person m m well. I said, well, I agree, which is why I think as a community we need to reassess our conversations when it comes to um, we need to reassess our conversations when it comes to how we allow other people to

deal with him. And that's what I was telling my boy Nick Hamilton's today, Like he made a good point to me. He said, uh said, Kanye know what it's like to be a Nick. I'm like, yeah, he's very much had the black experience. But we're not talking about the black experience right now. We're talking about the things that bound us together as a culture. The slave experience bounds us together as a culture. It's the reason why we make soulful. We don't make SOULI fool because it

tastes good. We make soul fool to remind us of the trauma. The reason we like our food salty is we got the most preserved food in the world that you know, used to sought to preserve food, feel me. So you know, we would start with this super over salty food because it was old and preserved, and then we were season it to flavor. So that's why even when we cook so full, we chase salt. We chase salty because that is what we are. Water. Memory remembers

of flavor. So when Kanye is speaking right like I was telling, it doesn't matter that he does not represent the culture of being black or what we call being black, right, it doesn't it matters that white people see him as one of us and how they treat him because it's important because they think they're doing one of us bad. The same conversation had about r Kelly, whereas like you look at what happens specifically with uh Donald Sterling. No,

we couldn't have touched him. That just made him sell his team for a profit and they're not going to drag him through. He didn't get kicked out of a bank, but he made him turnover his properties. Nobody cut off his seance, Nobody did nothing to him. Harvey Weinstein. Right when Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein both got in trouble for the same type of crimes, right, Harvey Weinstein just had to sell off his portion of the film company.

Bill Cosby, they took down all of his motherfucking he send the case and he I think he's on TV one now. Bill Cosby syndication was one point five billion dollars a year. He lost all kind of sponsors everything. Harvey Weinstein ain't took down one film. No. And my issue with that is because the way they treat us is they see us differently the way they treat themselves, they see themselves. What is it that um everybody or

what is everybody so upset at Kanye about which people? Okay, black people, Our community is upset at Kanye because they feel they're being ill represented. So they're like, why would you say slavery is a choice, Why would you say, um, slave is a choice? Why why would you say George Floyd? Yeah, so all of these questions that we agree upon in our community on the plantation. Right, maybe there's some people that's not on the plantation that still be like man

that's sucked up. But there's a lot of Kanye's, a lot of Candice Owens and Kanyees that have grew up and they are not on the plantation. They are not entitled to the conversation. And the belief that's because they're skin is dark, or they might be from somewhere with niggas is within a forty mile radius that they have a fucking idea. But Huntington's Beach is forty miles. It's about thirty miles away from Compton. Beverly Hills is ten miles away from Rolling Safety Crip. It's a fucking lifetime

distance away as far as experience. So just because you close don't mean you fucking no. I don't need to make a use for Kanye. He's a fucking jackass. He's a nigger that never been on a plantation, but he's still a nigga and they treat him like one. And that's what I'm So, that's okay, So, and what are they upset about? It was the whole thing because of the deaf con No, they said different things. They said, uh, because I was really trying to get to the whole

meat of it. I'm like, was it the death? So they're saying because there's some anti Semitic ship, I have

never seen it. I haven't seen it. But again, this is a whole another conversation that the lie has gotten so far out of control or we are totally ignorant because I've pretty much seen a lot of this stuff and I don't quite know what he said that was antisemitic, But this is a whole another conversation because we got to get a Jewish person here to talk to them, because I really need to custom out, you know, I mean, like we we would be in a really bad situation

because it's like you can't have it all. They get mad and somebody saying you got it all? Like they the coldest group of motherfucker's. That's like, don't tell nobody were having it. And I respect him because they're not lost in it, but don't tell nobody we're having it. Like if you were upset that this nigger said you have all the power, and then the first thing you did was got mad that he said you had all the power of this show. Because you had all the power.

Right now you just look goofy. So that's another conversation I got. I got a Jewish partner in the Rabbi partner might haven't come through because they asked out because they're man. But my issue is not just that right. My issue was us right and how we're dealing with it. There are people that look like us celebrating that is happening. Well, that's because they don't really understand, like like right now, what you're breaking down is what they need to understand.

You know, they don't understand it. It's about our people and that this is this could happen to you, your your family member or somebody else. They're not looking at it like that. They're looking at like, oh, yeah, he dumb. He should have been saying this and this and that, and I get all that. But it's a time and a place for you to be able to say these things. And right now, like if you look at the comments

are different things. You see them like oh yeah he's stupid as a mother, like he had take him down, stupid, you know, just saying it's like they're celebrating this, this the downfall of a man, and I don't agree with it. I don't agree what he said either, but I just feel like there's there's other ways. What did he say? What did he say? I agree with what he says? I don't know, but but we're having two different times. So the black people are upset because of what he

said that they feel was anti are plight. Yeah, I get that. That's all we need to follow up. And this is my issue, right, and I compared it earlier today, right, because when we say black culture, like what I've represented is one of the darkest parts of urban culture. This is one of the blackest parts of it. This is where you see it at his most primitive operations. Right. I was telling my boy Will to day. I was like, Hey, if let's say y'all all grew up in the community.

You know, y'all are from a community, right, what y'all are from a gang? I guess gang sounds more crazy. But let's say you and all these people grew up in the neighborhood. This particular guy. You don't like this guy. He always got some fucked up ship to say about the homies, you know what I mean? He always dick riding the niggas around the corner. But he y'are nigga. Yeah, he grew up with y'all. He wanted y'all. He ain't necessarily from yoke. He not necessarily like you, but he

is somebody that's from where you from, right. I told my boy, I say, if that was you, if six niggers was whipping his ass, would you let them whippers as six strangers? He said no, So okay, cool, he said, But I said, now let's say this same jackass homie slap the lady and then her five brothers wanted to whip his ass. Would you let the five brothers whip his ass? So? I don't know. I said, what, let

me give your answers. No, five, you ain't doing nothing because if it's one of y'all, y'all can get ahead of faith because he disrespected. But y'all, five ain't finn a dude to homie like that. I don't how much I don't like this nigga. He said, glasses, what if the nigga slap you and then he did the ship in the six nigga whopping his ass, I'm gonna fuck them up for thick and a whoop the hummie ask then I'm gonna fuck him up, lader for slapping me.

The one thing about that street culture that teaches you and you deal with your own people, you take that ship to the hood. You don't let her outside of the nigga do nothing to none of your people's, to none of your people's. You don't let her outside or do nothing to none of your motherfucking people's. So the way they're looking at Kanye, I'm looking at them like, y'all got raised on some sucker ship. How you allow white people to pack yaout? The white folks packing yayout rightly?

Are get you didn't do it to him? Yeah? They I heard a nigga today It was a Jewish rapper because was rapping had a dish record against you. I retweeted it and I'm just laughing, and I'm like, so, y'all just gonna stand by why this brother is getting packed out because he hurt your feelings before? Man, Yeah, these niggas a suckers, And I look at them as motherfucking worse than I look at him, because you know what the difference is, right, one thing is an imposter.

He could be an imposter. They don't know what the fund is being a nigga is. He just don't have no idea. He just came through the nigger door, so he don't really have no true idea of being no nigga. He don't ain't no nigga ever looked up to Marilyn Monroe that was born after motherfucking nineteen seventies nine, said he hate us something ain't looking at the marlyro We have tons of sisters. It's holly Berry area. Nigga. You

look up to Marylyn Monroe what I'm saying. But he's yeah, So I think he like he's an impostor nigger because he came through the hip hop door, and so we thought we thought he was off the plantation. So he's impossible because he came through that door, like he knows what he's like, and he's making the music. He was singing the spiritual the Negro hims. But he just knew how to make him cousin know how to actually really he wasn't no shame. He just knew how to make

the spirituals. And if you listen to a spirituals that was a bit David Bowie too. That was kind of poper. It was real light super Because you listened Nio talk about some he got the cues of stealing pants. Cause what are you talking about him? Car accident? My nigga's working on this glationship, he said, she like that, this gay ship, and that's a job. I'm not knocking. No nigger at work, middle class work. I'm not tripping. I'm just saying it's far cry from being on this plat

tyson selling these rocks. You feel tracking ain't no gap? First of all, ain't no gap in my neighborhood. Why then could you even I ain't never even knew it nigga work at the gap. I didn't even know they hired niggers. Okay, that's like Abricani. Let me, how you where is that at? That's a bus ride for forty minutes. So I just look at it like so he's an impostor. He's an impostor slave. He just came through the door. We looked at him, and Nils was like, oh, he

one of us. But in reality, if you really looked at because you look at his hands, cuses ain't had it did a hard days of labor because it's nigga nails is nicest, hands don't have no calluses. That man ain't did a hard their labor. And I noticed that the first day. I said, Man, this nigga is talented, but this is cushion. He's soft. Day Saul was still hard. Trial called Quests was still hard. It's a lot of

niggas who wasn't about being criminals. That was still like man, them niggas was rough, you know what I mean, The roots is rough. Look at that nigga man and nigga who played the drum. That nigga looked like he's been in ten fights. Quest because the question looked like he's been in fights every other weekend, and went to, I bet you all any money, Quest had been in at least ten fights, right right, So what I'm saying is right.

So what I'm saying is he wasn't impostor. Right. They we thought he was a slave because he came through the hip hop door. So he's impossible. So now they're mad because I thought you were a slave. But I tell them they worse because their sellouts because nigga, you know, and instead of you standing up right now out no matter what a nigga think of himself. He's still a nigga. And if you watch the white folk pack him out, you don't stand up with him. I don't give a funk.

If I kick your asth later, I might slap you in the back of your head while we're fighting these niggas. Soon we get back to the hood, I'm sucking you up. We're fucking you up. But these white folks can't fuck you up. I can't do it. Yeah, I feel you on that. That's um causing in school and it left the team. All these crackers at an old slave that's all that George Washington schools because this nigga had a hundred and seventy thousand slaves on the plantation, and you

still win. Washington High School was high school still name. Watch this cracking and on all these slashing, all conrying, all of sudden, they could play in any football ship. They made this nigga right here. Say one thing that you just don't like hitler Man. You don't like it because they just put him the sketchers. It's many slave owners. You know how many slave owners. I don't believe that ship. You know how many slave owners? Because how many slave owners?

We got schools named after. They ain't took nothing. They never said, you know what that nigga who got you all school owned slaves. Y'all can't make it to the football down. Ain't not eating how many times? And I watched all these niggas and I'm so ashamed that Aaron Donald the need to ram niggas. Man. I'm like, you niggas holes with all do respect you niggas, And I'm taking face because straight up you niggas holes, because your niggas is still going to George Washington High School because

it helped them. Yeah, that cracking and owned all these slaves, took nig's teeth out, they mouth and made dentcheres the nigga's teeth right. See these niggas and selective niggas and that ship. That's what the sellout is. I sellout is when you know, but the money got ConTroll of you. So guess what you hold out? They bought you bought in painful, That's what. And that's my problem. See the thing is we defend each other because of the black experience.

That's the reality. We all know what it's like to be treated like the nigga. I don't get fuck if you and Beverly Hills. You know what it's like to be a nigger. Hell, even if you actually wasn't a nigga, you know what it feels like to be a nigga. Now you may don't know what it feels like to be a slack, but you know what it to be

treated like less. Right, So when we watch somebody get the black experience in front of us, they that bold to publicly do it in front of us, They stripping it ship under closed doors, taking all your deals like right here, boom boom, boom boom, I seen I've seen five year four And to abow something he support, What if you don't knock it off like he supports Jewish people?

First off, nigga, because if you don't stop this whole ass sellout ship, first thing, you call yourself a crib and they to call you up on a deep because on god oh as ship. Oh wow. It's one thing. Man, I'm not saying we you supposed to go on the offensive another community. But what y'all got to do is stop right now. See, this is the point we unite with the experience. That's what pan Africanism is about. We all got the same white people treat us all the same,

so we all niggas. Now, I understand we're gonna have different opinions because of cultur Our culture as black people is different. Taking him, they are doing this nigga, treating him like a nigger in front of us down. He didn't even I ain't gonna get into what they I'm telling you all can fun what he did. I'm just saying it. What he did, you're supposed to tell us, and we're supposed to be okay with what you're doing. You can't just do niggas any kind of way. That's

what the whole point of Black Lives Matter is. The Black lives matter. This black ass niggas. But he didn't he say he was. I don't give a funk what he said about back. It would be the most confused nigga in the history of confusing. I don't give a fuck. We we ain't. I'm not confused. I know you're not confused confused. I'm not confused this nigga from saying, okay, even if his stupid ass don't know he from the ship, because I know because it's from the set. I know

he's a black man. I don't even fun what him or Old j thought they was. I don't get fun. How confused there they can say all constry, I'm not black, He's still black. I'm looking at you like, what are you just dumb? That don't mean that why I'm like a white Do you see they whipped your ass? I'm not that. You might be a hoss nigga, I'm not. You might be confused. I'm not. And that's what's wrong

with these niggas. They confused. They they celebrating the downtear of another black man because he heard his feelings with his rhetoric said. I don't give a funk about what they nigga said. I don't give a fuck what that nigga said about black people. Even if he confused niga, oh, he don't think he's black. He he could give black people. I don't feel what Candice Owens say the most whitey

shit in the world. If if four white ladies was whooping because ass I'm tripping, I'm for the beat them white bitches up and tell her fun her right when I finish whipping their ass. Fuck you too, candidate, your stupid that's what your stupid ass get after I whipped them bitches ass. I'm not feeling that five white men rape Candice Owns because she's just stupid because she don't know what it's like being us. Guess what, She's still

a sister. And when I finished beating them, white man up that's trying to rape her, I'm gonna look at her stupid that I want your stupid ass, Now get your stupid as somewhere else, because she's still my sister. Kanye is still my brother. He's still my brother. Fuck how much I hate the ship he's say because they don't fit the lifestyle of me and my partners, that's still because you know what, they see him as my brother.

You think for one minute, these people like, oh, we're just doing this to Kanye day we got one, Okay, we got we got him. They like we got him. Yeah, they got the treat in this act. And then and then that's my problem. They wouldn't do this. That's nobody else. Kim puts up her post. I'm exactly damn the father the father of you just really like. But I have not talked about that though, honestly, because she's a white lady. That's another one of the things where he got with

this white lady and now you're getting to bullshit. But that don't mean it's cool. I'm not. I don't listen the white folk doing what they're supposed to do to Kanye, that's a black man. They're like, we got him, That's what I'm saying. They got it. They're like, yeah, But the way that black people are acting, I don't give a which dots for life. Whether you was the crippiest crip in the world, are you the wealthiest motherfucking negro

in the world. I don't get a funk. It's no way you should stand by and watch their packed this nigg out by. You know what, the first thing I said when I first started seeing those um like when when people started dropping him, the first thing I said was like, where's his friends? Like where is his people's where is all the favored Like honestly, like that's when that's when you really know, like you have a bridge, like you have support, Like I haven't seen that one

person except Antonio Brown. You know Antonio Brown, but he crazy crazy, just Antonio Brown. But you know what I'm saying, Like, but I just don't like that every time we see it that we just don't understand we automatically associate with them with insanity. I think Antonio Brown is Antonio Brown, not saying crazy, but he's still a black man. He's still a black man, and I'm not cool with no

black man getting treated that way. I don't give a funk which one of these niggas sitting there left office and here my podcast trip? No you tripping. He's an imposter because you are selling and nobody is taking nobody else. My thing is my thing is my thing? Is okay? Adidas? Hold up? First off, they like, well, we can sell his shoes and don't put his name on it, that's for sure. Nigga should have stood up. No, you will not okay, y'all don't want to do business because fine,

but you won't sell his shoes no more? What the fund do Donna got to do with car? This is his mother, that's everything. Everything you mean to tell me? This ain't a pack out. How could you be a black man and be okay with them people doing that? Man like that, I'm not saying that you got to go do. It's supposed to be a stand up bro. Y'all going too far now, I'm telling I see fucking one of the niggas. Jalen Brown for the Celtics. Oh, I can't really help the kids if Nika is the kids.

And of course Kanye gotta school in Calabasas because he's a mainstream Negro a fucking to school in Calabasma alabasta, then fuck them kids, that's them kids don't even know motherfucking help them kids is in great schools? Why you ain't open up your ship in content Because like you said,

he don't know nothing about that's my point. So therefore that's further proof that this nigga is some sh He don't he don't know this ain't him just knowing you open up a school out there would have more support than what he's But honestly, I don't even think he cared about that. He wanted to say and how you want to say it. And I was telling my nigga today, right, I was telling my nigga. I said, Look, freedom is not economics. Freedom is the ability to think. See, when

you are not free, you can't think. I mean, when you burdened down with the responsibilities of you know, how you're gonna take care of your kid? How are you gonna pay your rent? How are you gonna get dinner tonight? How are you going to where you're gonna stay tonight? You don't have enough time to think. A lot of human beings are burdened with life, so they don't have time to think. Freedom is the ability to have time

to think, to think. The one thing that nigga got his time to think, and whether he's thinking of bad ideas, a great ideas he thinking. He's definitely thinking because the niggas got some great ideas with these shoes. But when it comes to this ship that we talked about as far as the community, that's just a bad idea. So freedom is the ability to think. Kanye is very much a free man. And my nigga was like, oh gee, I don't know if he's free because you know he

did did he do? People need to use him to say I said them niggas they needed him, trust me. They never want to funk with him in the first place. I ain't never what the funk with that crazy nigga? Man, why would you? Nigga told my Walt Disney and all these people who wanted to funk with him. Day was black bolling the whole time that nigga figured out how to get in there and bullied his way in there. That is a free man. I'm not saying everything that

comes with being free is worth it. That's the point. It's wrong with the burden. You know, like negative, right, you hear the term negative. I always tell head this. He'd be like, jihn want to get no negative energy. I'm like, you need negative energy. If you just have positive energy, you couldn't make power, okay, like like a like a like a no, y'all stupid, Like you know

your dude got the writer right. It's more ground cables negative power fluid than hots all them black them cables are black because grounded is more important anything to generate power. It's so important, so negative energy. People reminding us who we are, where we come from is the most important thing. And you got the whole world of motherfucking niggas. That's trying to be successful telling people will get away from that. No,

don't get away from that. Powered through that show them that you are, not that I need to get away from people. That's telling me I can't do nothing. I'm show them I'm not gonna get the fun I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna break that ship down to your mind. See, these niggas want to take the easy way out. That steve niggas so Yea is a fucking imposter. He just came through our door and niggas thought he was one

of us. He never was. These niggas that ain't really that's allowned him to get packed out and not actually saying nothing. They're sellouts. See my nigga thought yea, He's like, yeah, set up. Know you just thought all the way. If Eddie Winslow grew up and was a rapper and left his dad, left Carl Winslow house and did his things, you're right about that because he never once like you listen to a song like you said, in his songs like you know, talk about yeah, none of that type

of struggle, none of that ship. Right. He just always mainstream. And that's cool because every something nigga ship really grow up not being on the planet. We need niggas like that, need niggas who who ain't never knew nothing about the plantation and know the bare minimum. We need niggas like that. We need them, brothers. M I'm sure they're gonna say something that's gonna piss off just like I say, ship that piss Kanye. I'm sure here Kanye shouldn't everbody like

fucking glass, stupid ass nigga. You need to notice this is a message that comes from where I come from, nigga. This is the streets telling you leave us. But it's not a bit aside with some people over you and bitches and laid up and suck your dick and all that. Now she talked about she agreed with them bits. Shut up. If you don't agree with me, shut up. Don't say nothing, young lady. If you don't agree with the nigga, that's nothing in your mouth. Shut up. You don't gotta say nothing. Wow,

you don't have to say now. If you're sacking is nigga dick. The last person need to be doing is agreeing with somebody else. You know what, I just stay. I'm just gonna stand by my man. I'm not saying you just don't shut Then it's like, yeah, she had to say something about as a white lady, all of her ship was about to be because she is a white lady. That's why she had to say so again him his mistakes can come back to funk with him. I don't got to do nothing. I don't got to

do nothing for you. If you don't know, no better trust me because you are going to learn the hard way. But what I'm not gonna do and let these people pack you out and not say nothing. And I'm tired of other black people thinking it's cool. Yeah, that's the only thing. That's the only thing I have a problem like with is that like I feel bad, Like it's just like I feel like no one is like. That's because these niggas sellouts and they don't know they sellouts.

They really think they know, they know, they don't know that. I know they don't know that ship. And the ones that know, I know, I tell them that. I tell all my homies that if I see you doing some sellout, you just be no, no, you're just a sellout. It's cool money to get your money to, but don't try to act like you're not. Be a sellout, be a proud seller. Don't try to act like you one of us nigga, because you selling out right. And sometimes nigga

sell out. Nick got to feed their kids too, But let's stop it that nigga isn't yeah, isn't impostor yeah, is somebody who always understood the black experience, has slang never been up because he don't know the culture. Nothing about him has ever looked like us. He never looked cool. He always been a mainstream cool person. That Nigga is more of the fons because like he was always trying to be like out of outside the box. Anyway. No, he's not trying to be outside the box. He's outside

of the box. But well we're looking at well, okay, maybe that's well, now I'm looking like, what the funk? Why are you wearing that? Or because because he was looking at Vogue magazines and he was seventeen, he was looking at double xhale and and and the Source and selling drugs. This nigga was looking at Vogue magazine and I swear to guy, yeah, I bet you you had a Vogue collection probably since he was like sixteen seventeen. Wow you think so he's into fashion, definitely into fashion.

I'm just like, damn, why do you know about all these European designers? You have to be into all of their magazines. I don't know nothing about no motherfucker. BLESSI who the fund is cause I barely knew what one of his best friends in the fashion industry too. How do you lose your best friend? But that's my point, Virgil, Yeah, right, virgin is to do that off why he died. He died a ca but but but it's not just that.

It's like his whole ship always been off base for us as far as us not black people, because black people was diverse, because it's some niggas that is some some black people man or like like some people like we have Carlton's, right, for sure, we have Carlton's, we have Eddie Winslows, and then we got dough boys. Right, you got trades. It's a lot of trades, definitely, that's my problem. She's too many niggas. That's trades. That's setting out right now. She the niggas as. See none of

the doughboys. Man, we're looking at as a food. We knew it like this crazy and we fancy the fact that he acting tough. But I knew I knew you wasn't I knew you was a Eddie Winslow and not a trade. See the difference between tray from boys in the hood and Eddie Winslow is different. It's a different trade is from the community with a father. Eddie Winslow is from the suburbs trade still grew up in sixties and he was a different dude right in the sixties.

But he is not Eddie Winslow with somebody who did not hang with dough boy. He didn't dope boys, not his brother do not definitely, And if he did, he went for a couple of days and left and went home. And if you if you went to the plantation for thirty days, he went home. You do not know what plantation life is like. You probably think where everybody could leave. I left, would have said the seventeen one, Well we can't,

we can't we just all leave. I'm going home. They've probably been looking at this nigga like, mother fucking yet, go home, man, ntil Auntie, I said, what up? Man? Yeah, he's getting taken down, he's getting packed out, and I just don't like that. They're not even put You know, back in the day they used to pour your ship on the low. Them niggas like, yeah, fuck funk that nigga right in front of y'all, boom boom. Yeah. And don't get me wrong, yeah it's a rich nigger. He'll

be all right one way or another. But I don't like that they think that they could just beat Cuse up in front of us like that. They don't even have no respect. They're talking to us like, hey man, you know with this nigga, it should be like prisoner. We got an issue with this person. We need to figure out how to deal with this. What did he I'm not feel getting that because that's the trick. I gotta get the Rabbi on me in thee. I'm to get on his because he got to explain. I need

some answers. We need. We need a meeting on the yard, bro. We need a meeting on the yard, bro, because I need to understand what cause said that. That's bad that you thought this was cool. This is crazy. But we're not gonna had a conversation with our cus here without without their representation. This is how you do it. You have their representation on the spot. See right now they're sucking up. They don't have our representation on the spot.

They don't have our representation. They're just doing cause any kind of way, and these whole ask nigga's like it's cool, somebody gonna speak up. Antonio Brown did good looking out for tuning into the No Sellers Podcast. Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, and share. This episode was recorded right here on the West coast of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King, for the Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio Yeah.